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The Arena | Challenge Islam | Defend your Beliefs - Episode 22

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Hamza's Den

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The Arena is a livestream platform where you can come onto the stream and challenge Islam or you can present your own beliefs to be true. If you are a Christian, Atheist or have any other belief system, you are welcome onto the stream.
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Asadullah Al Andalusi - Andalusian Project
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@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, but Asadullah’s baby daughter is SO DAMN CUTE Mashallah that I couldn’t concentrate on the discussions lol. Subhanallah, May Allah SWT bless her and her parents and raise her as a wonderful Muslimah. Ameen.
@libanmohamed5503
@libanmohamed5503 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said in the chat “let the baby speak some knowledge”
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
@Mac Maine lol😂👍 MashAllah that baby InshAllah will be great 👍 may Allah bless the parents and the kids Ameen🙏
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
@ray maaf Ameen💖💖🙏💖💖
@predatorL89
@predatorL89 2 жыл бұрын
Ameen. I know me right she is so adorable🥰
@charlievaughan1308
@charlievaughan1308 2 жыл бұрын
@@predatorL89 I would like more information. Oh sorry its wrong posting
@user-kf5uh2gz5m
@user-kf5uh2gz5m 2 жыл бұрын
Abdulrahman is a absolute gem
@CountEagleHydra
@CountEagleHydra 2 жыл бұрын
The TAP bros are absolute gems
@itisyouthatiadore
@itisyouthatiadore 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@michaelevans4110
@michaelevans4110 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
@timg.3853
@timg.3853 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah his knowledge is in another level mA.
@principlemethods5281
@principlemethods5281 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah all the TAP bros.. they're amazing SubhanAllah
@user-vt4xc1mg5x
@user-vt4xc1mg5x 2 жыл бұрын
I fell asleep listening to this and woke up to a video on Prophet Ibrahim (peace and blessings upon him) 😅😅
@Waseem_Amin
@Waseem_Amin 6 ай бұрын
i do the same its so interesting
@realshag01
@realshag01 2 жыл бұрын
Every single one of these legends have their own style and pace. It is absolutely amazing. If you're tired and get to the point without BS you got Hamza. If you're awake, filled your coffee then you have Ponders and Abdur Rahman. If you're working and trying put the whole point together, then you have Asadullah. If someone trying to hide behind big words and can't explain their points, then you have Mansur to shake all the trees and expose the naked truth. Maasha Allah. May Allah bless them all. I enjoyed the stream.
@Mirror_Holder
@Mirror_Holder 2 жыл бұрын
'The almighty God became man, got humiliated then killed', how can any mind and heart swallow this!
@arshatarifin7442
@arshatarifin7442 2 жыл бұрын
The brainless one.
@libanmohamed5503
@libanmohamed5503 2 жыл бұрын
Someone who bumped his head
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
The possessed
@branis96
@branis96 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the best reply to Ihsan earthquake argument is this Hadith: One day, I was riding behind the Prophet (ﷺ) when he said, "O boy! I will instruct you in some matters. Be watchful of Allah (Commandments of Allah), He will preserve you. Safeguard His Rights, He will be ever with you. If you beg, beg of Him Alone; and if you need assistance, supplicate to Allah Alone for help. *And remember that if all the people gather to benefit you, they will not be able to benefit you except that which Allah had foreordained (for you); and if all of them gather to do harm to you, they will not be able to afflict you with anything other than that which Allah had pre-destined against you.* The pens had been lifted and the ink had dried up".
@branis96
@branis96 2 жыл бұрын
i felt sad for Joseph in 4:19:54 after Jake finished him clearly deep in his heart he was saying "ok he got me, i'm finished" yet he was trying to justify the unjustifiable
@boomm9321
@boomm9321 2 жыл бұрын
بث رائع بارك الله فيكم جميعا
@jimfromwakanda7991
@jimfromwakanda7991 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the smile on brother Abdul when Robin asked 1:34:43 "do you believe there are verses in the Quran that are factually incorrect" - it was priceless. May Allah Azzawajal bless him and the rest of the brothers on the panel and all their families, ameen.
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
A few years back before the virus spread my family were heading to the grocery store, then someone in a car started yelling at my grandmother.she was behind us looking at something in a store window and he was telling her to go back to her country... hmmm 😐 the thing is my grandmother is African American and native American! and the 2nd thing why can't other races live here ? The person in car Started mocking her and said she had a towel on her head 😢 my mother feels sad about what happened to my grandmother but my grandmother said "let them behave that way they are playing with fire 🔥 because when I die Allah will be the judge "and it makes me feel very proud of my grandmother may Allah bless her Ameen I still go out even when they make very racist and nasty remarks at me I think about what my grandmother said about them Alhamdulillah☺☝ let them show how ugly their heart is. Woe to them a day of torment were there eyes stare in horror of they have done and let happen.!
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Free Palestine! Make dua for my grandmother because she still goes out at her old age sometimes and I run into them sometime and they get nasty and racists about my face and religion ☺💖💖💖
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Free Palestine free Palestine!💖💖💖
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Lol my family is soo diverse because of the history of America and some of us being Muslim so we could marrying others. Alhamdulillah the beauty of Islamic law that allows marrying outside of your race. Once a pound of a time it was a CRIME in America to fall in love and get married out side of your race subhanAllah! But the U.S. wants to be talking all day about what ppl should do and what ppl shouldn't do.😰
@jimfromwakanda7991
@jimfromwakanda7991 2 жыл бұрын
@@happiethijab8694 may Allah Azzawajal bless your grandmother and may he grant her shifa and a happy healthy long life, ameen. That's good to hear and a good reminder, Allah is the judge and will judge those who do wrong and a torment awaits those who do wrong and turn away from Allah for they brought it upon their own souls. It truly amazes me how some of the western countries claim they have human rights and freedoms yet under the same breath they deny muslims those rights. In the UK there have been 2 women murdered 1 during the day (who was Muslim) yet they cry about women's rights in other countries.
@PhillyPhilly1
@PhillyPhilly1 2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah brother Jake is a logical MACHINE. I would not want to debate him in anything 😅 May Allah SWT continue to increase him in his ability to defend Islam
@TravelBandit
@TravelBandit 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂
@harryosbourne451
@harryosbourne451 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't even in this stream lol
@TravelBandit
@TravelBandit 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryosbourne451 Finish it before you talk...
@PhillyPhilly1
@PhillyPhilly1 2 жыл бұрын
@Harry Osborne he joined after the 4 hour mark to talk to Joseph
@dawahunited3566
@dawahunited3566 2 жыл бұрын
The Arena is always worth a watch!
@slsa915
@slsa915 2 жыл бұрын
3:53:40. The Tree’s motivation? 😂😂😂😂😂😂, and the look on Abdul’s face!!!!
@IndoFahmi
@IndoFahmi 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, this is one of the best stream. Jake's Logical Problem of the Trinity™ never gets old. Jazakumullah khayran, Brothers.
@MarocTeamCod
@MarocTeamCod 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza's most asked question in all videos: Why'd you believe that?🤣🤣🦁🦁🔥🔥👍👍 elhamdulileh for islam ☝️
@MrAbujibril
@MrAbujibril 2 жыл бұрын
😂 love it mate!
@dadlanighaniabdghanikhair1500
@dadlanighaniabdghanikhair1500 2 жыл бұрын
CALL. YOUR. CHRISTIAN. PRINCES TO. DEFEN. TRINITY 😹👌🏻😆
@td1246
@td1246 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza den and EF Dawah is the best way to spend my free time … thanks gents for all your work, always a pleasure to watch…
@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
@IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh 2 жыл бұрын
Ma sha Allah, I found this gold mine you call the Arena, proper dawah media, may Allah bless you akhi. Perhaps sort out a good intro for it. And I hope you will be able to have a debate set up with Edip the sunnah rejector vs Farid or Uthman. Salam akhi
@OriginalAndroidPhone
@OriginalAndroidPhone 2 жыл бұрын
jake muslim metaphysician debated/discussed with him, check his channel
@arifabd
@arifabd 2 жыл бұрын
Also check out the THOUGHT ADVENTURE PODCAST.
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Great stream Alhamdulillah💖💖💖
@zoezoom110
@zoezoom110 2 жыл бұрын
2:33:00 assadullah just crucify the idea of God's sacrifice,, well done brother as well as all brothers well done,
@saift2933
@saift2933 2 жыл бұрын
U mean 2:33:00?
@zoezoom110
@zoezoom110 2 жыл бұрын
@@saift2933 yeap
@saift2933
@saift2933 2 жыл бұрын
@@zoezoom110 then change it! 🌹
@zoezoom110
@zoezoom110 2 жыл бұрын
@@saift2933 OK, yeap
@abdulmalik_al-habeshi
@abdulmalik_al-habeshi 2 жыл бұрын
To bad robin changed the subject and straw maned asadullah
@salehalsharekh3162
@salehalsharekh3162 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Hamza, when you said to him "So you are not going to pass this nonsense to any body" You made my entire week. Well done, with fries on the side.
@Asiyah2000
@Asiyah2000 4 ай бұрын
Time stamp
@adamdiab8715
@adamdiab8715 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph contradicted himself because he realised he was wrong
@moodlic2526
@moodlic2526 2 жыл бұрын
He stupidly said mount "سيناء" is not in arabia 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@4i4ui4i4u4
@4i4ui4i4u4 2 жыл бұрын
جزاكم الله خيرًا
@michaelevans4110
@michaelevans4110 2 жыл бұрын
2h18m "zombie walking dead army" haha The story gets funnier every time Hamza mentions it.
@ah4356
@ah4356 2 жыл бұрын
I think all the panelists here should have formal education in science via PhD, like what brother Saboor is doing. This will lend alot of credibility to your discussion and career in general. All of you are very intelligent individuals and so putting in the effort to get a serious formal education on this will greatly benefit the ummah.
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 👍 I hope they do that inshAllah!
@EpikMunk
@EpikMunk 2 жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant idea, which science though?
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
Jazakallahu khairan
@strawberry-km7lu
@strawberry-km7lu 2 жыл бұрын
2:56:21 SubhanAllah..I remember watching a video on Asasullah's lifestory sometime ago.Very emotional one.Wallahi cant imagine going through even half of what he had went through..Brother is a true gem.MaShaAllah❤❤
@ayisha6555
@ayisha6555 2 жыл бұрын
Those experiences he went through made him "ASADULLAH".May Allah grant him firdaus.
@housseinemin8941
@housseinemin8941 2 жыл бұрын
wonderfull abdul
@hojpatel5773
@hojpatel5773 2 жыл бұрын
Robin tried to "hood" wink the den with "confirmation b..s" but couldn't successfully navigate this particular "forest" even his band of biblical not so "merry men" got their bi-AS handed to them... Hamza the Sheriff laying down the real law. 👍
@hojpatel5773
@hojpatel5773 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerusalem5646 bro! You just didn't get what I was doing... never mind...
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
A few years back before the virus spread my family were heading to the grocery store, then someone in a car started yelling at my grandmother.she was behind us looking at something in a store window and he was telling her to go back to her country... hmmm 😐 the thing is my grandmother is African American and native American! and the 2nd thing why can't other races live here ? The person in car Started mocking her and said she had a towel on her head 😢 my mother feels sad about what happened to my grandmother but my grandmother said "let them behave that way they are playing with fire 🔥 because when I die Allah will be the judge "and it makes me feel very proud of my grandmother may Allah bless her Ameen I still go out even when they make very racist and nasty remarks at me I think about what my grandmother said about them Alhamdulillah☺☝ let them show how ugly their heart is. Woe to them a day of torment were there eyes stare in horror of they have done and let happen.!
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Make dua for my grandmother because she still goes out at her old age sometimes and I run into them sometime and they get nasty and racists about my face and religion ☺💖💖💖
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
My grandma said fear "the maker not the made"
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
Lol my family is soo diverse because of the history of America and some of us being Muslim so we could marrying others. Alhamdulillah the beauty of Islamic law that allows marrying outside of your race. Once a pound of a time it was a CRIME in America to fall in love and get married out side of your race subhanAllah! But the U.S. wants to be talking all day about what ppl should do and what ppl shouldn't do.😰
@ZuluZoro
@ZuluZoro 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome stream. I don't think people appreciate how special this was. The philosophy here was something else. These guys are gems. And when Jake did a special guest appearance I fell off my chair.
@arifabd
@arifabd 2 жыл бұрын
The French guy Vigdis claims that light can be heard as a sound because it has a wavelength. This is not Scientifically true at all. Light is an electromagnetic wave and sound is an acoustic wave phenomenon. If on the other hand, what he implied was that an equivalent acoustic wave with the same frequency of light can be generated, then that would be theoretically true, but you would be synthetically generating an equivalent acoustic wave and you still won't even "hear" it, because it would be outside of the audible spectrum. Every claim of "hearing" an EM wave happens when because of the generation mechanism of the wave, there is some resultant mechanical vibration which generates an acoustic wave. He was all over the place on all points, including philosophy and science!
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
I agree my brother. Vigdis was a complete waste of time.
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting I never know 💖💖
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
MashAllah i like these streams👍
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
@ray maaf I think the French guy wasted his own time ! these are his points in short.👇 *LET ME TELL U WHAT I BELIEVE.I BELIEVE IN I DON'T KNOW.OKAY THANKS FOR HAVING ME.I AM GETTING EMOTIONAL BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE RAISING VALID POINT BYE * 👀
@ALzzanam
@ALzzanam 2 жыл бұрын
جزاكم الله خيرا
@muppetsshowupatspeakerscor579
@muppetsshowupatspeakerscor579 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza had me laughing with the Anti Natalist chap absolutely brilliant.
@XaeeD
@XaeeD 2 жыл бұрын
I commented on this during the livestream, and it's to elaborate a bit on what Abdul was disucssing with Joe around 3:25 or so, concerning the trinity. It's the problem of distinction, which is an important argument against the idea that three are one. There are lots of ways of dealing with this, but Joe wasn't following along, so here's how I usually phrase the argument: *distinction between beings is only ever possible when plurality is already a fact* That one sentence; have them deal with that. It's an argument against polytheism. Another, even shorter way of phrasing it would be to say that: *plurality necessitates distinction* First you define the important terms used there, and simple definitions suffice: Distinction = a difference or contrast Between = lit. with two; in the space which separates two Being = that which exists Plurality = multitude Now, if the logic isn't clear to someone, you can explain it: Either there exists one cube, or there exist two (or more). If there exist two, then they are either 100% identical to one another in all regards, or not. If they are 100% identical, then all characteristics of both cubes are completely identical, which means there's nothing that allows us to distinguish between them. This means that they're not more than one to begin with. Should this be disputed, you can elaborate on the cubes' characteristics, until it becomes clear that we're talking about one cube. It therefor follows that if there should exist two cubes, then they cannot be 100% identical. In terms of gods, the Qur'an skips over the aforementioned, and jumps straight to the end-result of multiple deities having distinct attributes that are going to cause logical problems: "If there existed in both of them (i.e. the heavens and the earth) deities besides Allah, surely they (i.e. the heavens and the earth) would have been ruined." - 21:22 "No offspring has Allah taken, and no deity exists with Him. Then each deity would have taken away what he created, and some of them would have surely overpowered others." - 23:91 The distinction here pertains to their autonomous will and what each god creates and owns. Clashing of will is resolved either through compromise or (mutual) destruction. If we propose that they're all identical, except that their wills differ, then they must differ. If it is argued that their wills can simply align, always, then the attribute can no longer be used to distinguish between them, and we're back to one god. It's a necessity that their wills conflict, at the very least once. This then manifests in what is created. If god 1 wills to create a star, but god 2 specifically wills that the star is not created, then since they are both all-powerful, the star will be created and not created, simultaneously; which is impossible. This leads to pandemonium and chaos within creation. Either one of them compromises, and changes what he has willed since beginningless eternity, which disproves divinity, because an intrinsically necessary will cannot be forced to change, and because compromising is less than perfect, while God must be attributed with absolute perfection. Or one of them overcomes the other and destroys or subjugates him, which also disproves the divinity of the one who is overpowered or ruined, because it's impossible that a necessarily existent being should ever cease to exist, or that he is diminished, confined or dominated by another being. The one who compromises or is overpowered cannot be said to be a god at all. Christians must distinguish between Father, Son, and Sanctified Spirit. These three monikers are not used interchangeably. It's not possible for them to say, for instance, that; Mary gave birth to the Holy Spirit. The Father died on the cross. Jesus in heaven uttered the words: "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased." - Matthew 3:17 This shows that the three are distinct from one another and are therefor three in number. Christians will typically try to confuse the matter by arguing over nomenclature. They will introduce terms that they think resolve the problem. The problem is that the three cannot be three distinct beings. And so they'll refer to each as a "person". Now you're forced to debate the definition of what a person is, and they'll give you their own definitions. The fact of the matter, however, is that a person still refers to a being, and it's nonsensical for them to claim that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one and the same being, as that would mean they're interchangeable and synonymous, which they don't actually believe. When they use the term "essence", then this means one of two things; it either means "being", which simply results in saying that three distinct beings are one and the same being, which is absurd, or "essence" can mean "substance". A substance is a quintessence; a physical, tangible particle with a size and a shape, a location, coordinates in 3D space, etc. This sounds inappropriate in terms of God, but this meaning does show up in Christian writings; "the [divine] substance of the trinity". This is rejected because any substance is dependent upon the pre-existence of a place, and its existence is therefor only intrinsically possible. Saying that this "god-particle" is divine and mysterious is like saying that an intrinsically contingent substance with incidental characteristics is uncreated, eternal and transcendent, i.e. "an uncreated creation". They'll throw in the term "nature", because that too is vague enough to hide behind. Using the term "nature" should be rejected unless they specify what exactly they mean by it. "Natus" meant "to be born". It usually refers to the innate (inherent) essential characteristics of something, which brings us back to essence and attributes. Perhaps they'll say that the three are manifested expressions of the One God, The Church did a great job of confusing the matter, and instead of clarifying their theology for the people to understand, so that they may know that God is One; it leads to nothing but glorified mumbo jumbo and pretentious word salads. Distinction between three gods is only possible when they are in fact three in number. You cannot distinguish between absolute oneness, because "absolute oneness" and "between" are mutually contradictory terms. There is nothing we know of in reality that represents the trinity, and coining similitudes to explain the trinity is always problematic. If they argue that Muslims believe in many attributes of God, then we do not say that the attribute is God Himself. Trinitarians are polytheists in disguise. They have inhereted a more sophisticated form of triune and triad theology, which many pagan nations before them already believed in. God gave the human being an intellect by which we can come to know Him. Monotheism really shouldn't be that confusing, and if you have to go to these lengths to 'explain' theology, then perhaps that's an indication that something isn't right. Assalaamu aleikum, warahmatullah, wabarakatuhu.
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 2 жыл бұрын
Masya Allah BarakAllaahu fiikum jazakAllaahu khoir.
@f1aziz
@f1aziz 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Daniel on the panel. Jazkallah khair
@blindspot9097
@blindspot9097 2 жыл бұрын
this episode is fantastic!
@irfanahmed6411
@irfanahmed6411 2 жыл бұрын
Dear brothers Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet and we love you 😍❤ 💜 💖 💕 💙
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
@tatianak8428
@tatianak8428 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that baby is an excellent addition to the team ❤️🤲🏼 such a cutie pie 🥰
@Interlinex
@Interlinex 2 жыл бұрын
Ma shaa Allah I'm sometimes critical of hamza's dawah method but the way he dissects these Christians is from another level. Just straight forward confrontation. Allahouma barek, may Allah preserve your ikhlas with your dawah and protect you and your family. Wallahi it amazes me how Allah swt left the Bible with clear contradictions in order for true sincere Christians to follow the quran. Nonetheless, the Christians prove to be insincere. They will be held accountable
@abmzaman7863
@abmzaman7863 2 жыл бұрын
My muslim brothers know more bible than christians do. waooooo.... MaShaAllah. keep it up brothers. Lots of duas for you.
@Seanus32
@Seanus32 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing the hoops that deacon was jumping through. He swims in the murky waters of dyothelitism, which is fraught with theological pitfalls. As a panENtheist, the human relationship with God, as distinct yet not separate from us, is far more readily accessible. In my case, it's more about relatability through cooperation and symbiosis.
@sakuram146
@sakuram146 2 жыл бұрын
*"I DON'T KNOW THE TREE'S MOTIVATION"* 🤣
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
A few years back before the virus spread my family were heading to the grocery store, then someone in a car started yelling at my grandmother.she was behind us looking at something in a store window and he was telling her to go back to her country... hmmm 😐 the thing is my grandmother is African American and native American! and the 2nd thing why can't other races live here ? The person in car Started mocking her and said she had a towel on her head 😢 my mother feels sad about what happened to my grandmother but my grandmother said "let them behave that way they are playing with fire 🔥 because when I die Allah will be the judge "and it makes me feel very proud of my grandmother may Allah bless her Ameen I still go out even when they make very racist and nasty remarks at me I think about what my grandmother said about them Alhamdulillah☺☝ let them show how ugly their heart is. Woe to them a day of torment were there eyes stare in horror of they have done and let happen.!
@acceptedhunters
@acceptedhunters 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't catch the beginning of the conversation with Vigdis Herja yesterday. Just watched it. It's total garbage. It's like talking to a walk, intellectual hypocracy or stupidity. keep repeating that not what I am arguing. He is not even trying to listen and process what is being said. It's subjective because mind involved. So what we grant you that. Yousef explained it beautifully. it was a master piece when he said that God subjectivity is another category that we would call it objectivity for the sake of the argument. How could it be more eloquent and intellectual than that.
@DePeaceHunter
@DePeaceHunter 2 жыл бұрын
This is my fav episode so far
@abumansaray7
@abumansaray7 2 жыл бұрын
This needs to be turned into a tv show.
@imammurrahsstudent8905
@imammurrahsstudent8905 2 жыл бұрын
4 out of 5 people here are not born Muslims (converts) Mashallah ❤️
@abdulmalik_al-habeshi
@abdulmalik_al-habeshi 2 жыл бұрын
4/6 actually
@Zzucia
@Zzucia 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah!!!
@aft7837
@aft7837 2 жыл бұрын
Wow…Masha Allah !! Which 4 are reverts?
@Zakeye90
@Zakeye90 8 ай бұрын
Subhanallah the Muslim the world is awaiting for I believe with a doubt are showing up allahamdulillah they are solders in God’s eyes
@DePeaceHunter
@DePeaceHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph, even if you change king of England with human in Abdul's example, you still got 3 human. Sharing humanity doesn't make them one human. They're still 3.
@raheelaali9767
@raheelaali9767 2 жыл бұрын
Great stream brothers, great panel also 👍
@Omzzz85
@Omzzz85 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Hamza brings me to tears! 🤣
@AyubKhan-md4km
@AyubKhan-md4km 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see this new leaf in the action of brother Hamza, who has remained incredibly calm in the face of nonsense being proposed by guest who come to speak on the session. On the other hand it's sad to see Christian who come with their arguments, completely ignoring logic, rationality and dismissing facts being brought to their notice, ending up looking like liars and having absolute deceiving quality
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 2 жыл бұрын
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
@ismailomar1323
@ismailomar1323 2 жыл бұрын
I think if the deacon reverted to Islam, he would be a great asset. If he can defend so adamantly and so calmly the indefensible/incomprehensible doctrine of Christianity, imagine how effective he would be at defending the Dinul Haqq (the true religion of Allah - Islam). May Allah guide him
@isbieiskandar7641
@isbieiskandar7641 2 жыл бұрын
when reason cornered the next will be delutional stage
@PabloSensei
@PabloSensei 2 жыл бұрын
abdul is amazing
@Oliver_Tate
@Oliver_Tate 2 жыл бұрын
20:02 “ god of the underworld” 😂 wonderful analogy. Having multitude of historical attestations of historical writing, does that make it historical reality? “
@FiveStarProd
@FiveStarProd 2 жыл бұрын
Decan Neil Joseph Tyson was all over the place. Hope his church watched this.
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Lmao!!! I was thinking the same thing! He sounds exactly like that buffoon Neil Degrasse Tyson LOL!!!
@iswallbanoo9843
@iswallbanoo9843 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day. It's a Mystery 📦
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
Mystery 📦?
@iswallbanoo9843
@iswallbanoo9843 2 жыл бұрын
@@homtanks7259 every Christian is in the box
@workingclassautodidact
@workingclassautodidact 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I have never heard such gobbledygook in my life than when listening to the stumbling around here trying to get out of the Euthyphro Dilemma.
@HamzasDen
@HamzasDen 2 жыл бұрын
What's the dilemma 🤔
@Samya.R
@Samya.R 2 жыл бұрын
Joe the Dican at the end kept omitting “the son” from Matthew 24:36. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, *NOR THE SON,* but only the Father.” If Jesus chose to not know that’s lying by omission. If he knew but didn’t want the people to know for whatever reason...that’s out right lying. Trying to force this narrative that Jesus is ALL Knowing is problematic.
@sohaibalvi7295
@sohaibalvi7295 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch. Its painful to watch christians defend their positions on these streams.
@hitogi06
@hitogi06 2 жыл бұрын
The poor man doesn't understand that he literally says that the son is ONE PERSON, and then that when the Bible speaks of Jesus it refers to the second person of the trinity. So by definition, it literally says that he grew in knowledge. From his own mouth, Jesus is one person with two natures. The person is omniscient but also said to grow in knowledge. A person grows in knowledge, not the nature.
@Samya.R
@Samya.R 2 жыл бұрын
@@hitogi06 ...yes! In order to reconcile that issue of the second person of the trinity not being omniscient (growing in knowledge)...Joe the Dican had to go and commit hearsay yet again by trying to make Jesus’s human nature a “who” rather than a “what” to disassociate Jesus’s divinity from that verse...making Jesus having 2 beings (2 who’s), rather than 1 being 2 nature’s (one who with 2 what’s). I wish that Jake had the chance to dig deeper in the direction of the differences/distinctions that delineates between the 3 person of the trinity to be able to recognize them as separate principles/beings as per his analogy of using the guys on the Panel one nature (human) but 4 beings. Joe was being very intellectual dishonest...just on the case that Jesus is in flesh is a clear distinction that delineates him for the other two persons of the trinity. Or the fact the Father is not begotten or precedes from anything. Maybe next Area Joe will come on and it will get address again in full. Alhamdulillah for Islam!
@Samya.R
@Samya.R 2 жыл бұрын
@@sohaibalvi7295 ...Subhan’Allah They keep backing themselves into a corner the more they talk.
@hitogi06
@hitogi06 2 жыл бұрын
@@Samya.R Alhamdulillah for islam.
@g7k993
@g7k993 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah
@mafatiacademy4061
@mafatiacademy4061 2 жыл бұрын
Mansur did a great job, go on alhamdulillah
@Arif_Islam1
@Arif_Islam1 2 жыл бұрын
Watched the whole arena, it was epic, inshallah there will be 3 a month
@predatorL89
@predatorL89 2 жыл бұрын
Nice interesting topics and conversations😉
@IstanbulBeautyOne
@IstanbulBeautyOne 2 жыл бұрын
Abdulrahman great addition
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
Brothers and Sisters support the brothers financially through YT membership, patreon and so on , Inshallah
@Life-bt9yo
@Life-bt9yo 2 жыл бұрын
Respected Sheikh Mohammad Elshinawy mentioned Hamza in his latest Jummah khutbah uploaded on Sunnah Station 😊
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 2 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum link please brother. jazakAllaahu khoir
@Life-bt9yo
@Life-bt9yo 2 жыл бұрын
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 cant post links in the comments. It's the latest one on the channel Sunnah station
@housse51
@housse51 2 жыл бұрын
The concept is Allah knows all of the variables, the parameters, the mechanisms and the outcome, because He created the object, ie the universe and all the laws within it. So when Allah said something about his creation, it is going to be the ultimate truth about that creation and ultimately objective for that creation. So yeah, ultimately it is objective to that object because Allah created that object and knows everything about it with no flaws whatsoever in his knowledge and wisdom. In addition to that, everything of his creation dependent on Him, and he is independent. That is the very concept. The question then, did Allah create this universe just arbitrary without any purpose ? The answer is No, because He told us in the Quran that He did not create us for nothing. You may ask "why". But we ultimately only able to rely on information from Him to know anything about His true nature.
@bonar1211
@bonar1211 2 жыл бұрын
Man Brothers TAP are god of war. I m no shame to say i m a very very big fans of them
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
Donate a small amount of your money to support the TAP brothers , Inshallah . and let others know that these brothers are doing a very good job
@ahadeeobeed9376
@ahadeeobeed9376 2 жыл бұрын
"و السماء ذات الحبك. إنهم لفي قول مختلف . يؤفك عنه من أفك . قتل الخراصون " just aliterally discretion to his situation in detail .
@Bandit72
@Bandit72 2 жыл бұрын
COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS!!!
@DefrimIsai
@DefrimIsai 2 жыл бұрын
TODAYS LESSON # 2 from @Robin Boom 1:30:26 : THERE ARE AS MANY CHRISTIAN THEOLOGIES AS THERE ARE CHRISTIANS
@commandar88
@commandar88 2 жыл бұрын
That's just a bias confirmation bro 🙄
@DefrimIsai
@DefrimIsai 2 жыл бұрын
@@commandar88 😂
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
@Jerusalem yeah I agree to getting married at that age back in the day. My great great grandmother got married at 12 to my great great grandfather who was 15 so are u calling my great great grandfather something @ Jerusalem?😡
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
I am mixed so my relatives come from Africa and. Ppl get married at young ages because some of them lives short lives so are you calling my great great grandfather AND MY PPL something ?😡 @Jerusalem answer my question!
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
You were asking me these questions so I need an answer what are you calling my great great grandfather and my ppl from Africa in the past and present?😡
@ibrahim-rv4oe
@ibrahim-rv4oe 2 жыл бұрын
سبحان الله والحمدلله ولا اله الا الله و الله اكبر
@SyedMFahad
@SyedMFahad 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how Robin Boom started as a chemical engineer to bonkers when all wheels came off 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝
@prince_moataz
@prince_moataz 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza : *asks a question* Robin : *Intense keyboard typing noises*
@kabhussain3113
@kabhussain3113 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza keep the arena every 2 weeks plz. Maybe have another stream in between like reaction stream or Christian stream.
@taimur74
@taimur74 2 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone does a 🤦‍♂️ when ihsaan shows up 🤣
@shakeyfibonacci9095
@shakeyfibonacci9095 2 жыл бұрын
Jakes a soldier Masha’Allah
@CelestialTrailblazer
@CelestialTrailblazer 2 жыл бұрын
Dcn Joseph Suaiden is actually Neil deGrasse Tyson.
@hmansour89
@hmansour89 2 жыл бұрын
Is that for real? lol he does sound like him a bit
@mkum2141
@mkum2141 2 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha can’t unhear this now
@danalmariti509
@danalmariti509 Жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly like him😮
@repla2992
@repla2992 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph is like a goat hitting the door in front of him. He even sees that it’s not opening each time but he’s still hitting his head to the same point. Sometimes listening to Christians is a real “mystery “😉.
@Thedrivebye
@Thedrivebye 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, can you imagine blaming a tree for not having fruit when it's not fruit time
@rajababy2009
@rajababy2009 2 жыл бұрын
i really mis firas Zahbi he is amazing in Philosophy please bring him next time
@quicktingz2097
@quicktingz2097 2 жыл бұрын
Jake came out of nowhere and RKO'd that Christian guy all the way back to the council of Nicea.
@bla4327
@bla4327 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Daniel to be on the arena!
@shaheengk5352
@shaheengk5352 2 жыл бұрын
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
+⭐
@tankatie713
@tankatie713 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch, thats hurting.... He sacrificed himself, then he came back and say look, I sacrificed myself....... Now, I can't wrap around this kind of logic?
@michaelevans4110
@michaelevans4110 2 жыл бұрын
The christian at the end sounds like Neil Degras Tyson.
@akmaljonqosimzoda8909
@akmaljonqosimzoda8909 2 жыл бұрын
Asadullah's example really destroyed Anti Natalist guy's philosophy. 💯nonsense ideas from this anti Natalist guy.
@shohorabahamed3753
@shohorabahamed3753 2 жыл бұрын
Ihsaan was such nonsense. And the smile shows he smiles needing.
@ne9231
@ne9231 2 жыл бұрын
He tries to look superior but ends up looking like a clown...
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
Is ihsaan Iranian?
@adamassalafi
@adamassalafi 2 жыл бұрын
Was very funny the claim of Joseph that "Even nature can disobey God" or "The three was possesed" if nature is disbedient we should've be killed by it for being polliting the planet xD
@qasim5279
@qasim5279 2 жыл бұрын
I love how whilst defending the trinity... they always forget to defend the holy ghost ... almost as if it's not even a part of the trinity
@isbieiskandar9460
@isbieiskandar9460 Жыл бұрын
why not believe in miracle when our existence itself is a miracle
@moonlightlight5450
@moonlightlight5450 2 жыл бұрын
nice stream
@shohorabahamed3753
@shohorabahamed3753 2 жыл бұрын
Cant believe that Joseph was a deacon. His biblical knowledge is very poor, and he doesnt know church history, he doesnt even know the doctrine of the Trinity, and has never read church fathers and 'against heresies'. Its amazing, and shameful.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza pls keep arena 2 times a month.. Also make sure you have hadith expert on each episode
@samissa9921
@samissa9921 2 жыл бұрын
Nah m8 I actually prefer the scheduling as it is.
@smiley-rp5mg
@smiley-rp5mg 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you from kaz??
@fahed2210
@fahed2210 2 жыл бұрын
3:48:11 every Christian answer when they realize their beliefs doesn’t make sense
@MuzzYADam
@MuzzYADam 2 жыл бұрын
I knew It was going to be "Its a mystery" before clicking this lol.
@charlievaughan1308
@charlievaughan1308 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that Christian beliefs don't make sense. BUT are you seriously trying to tell me Islamic beliefs make sense?????
@eistudiesl7193
@eistudiesl7193 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlievaughan1308 yeah
@hassanmuse5606
@hassanmuse5606 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlievaughan1308 Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Qur'an 112:1-4 Yes it makes sense
@fahed2210
@fahed2210 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlievaughan1308 yeah, the Christian doctrine makes no sense and is not logical, and yes the Islamic theology and doctrine makes sense and doesn’t go against logic and intellectual reasoning
@ahmedshakib3883
@ahmedshakib3883 2 жыл бұрын
3 a month would be wonderful.
@andstan21
@andstan21 2 жыл бұрын
Christians belief in God: "I regret creating these humans even though I knew these humans were going to make mistakes." The disrespect they give to our creator is amazing.
@hamzae8897
@hamzae8897 Жыл бұрын
Vigdis's comment about waves was nonsense. If radio waves don't produce/carry sound we wouldn't have radio!
@RayOfHope8
@RayOfHope8 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@b.real.g3012
@b.real.g3012 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Joe Joe you come on a livestream but your not prepared to discuss the trinity because you didn’t prepare ? And your a Deacon !!!
@Someone-ct2ck
@Someone-ct2ck 2 жыл бұрын
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