The Atomists

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@Antistar211 10 жыл бұрын

Very enjoyable

@midsizesedan7620 Жыл бұрын

If everyone was rational and thought often than not. I think the world would be a better place

@nukelewman 11 ай бұрын

these guys would love to live during the age of modern physics 😂

@Howardincorporated 7 жыл бұрын

Democritus was an impressive thinker, but he was hardly the first to conceive of the Atom if we open the discussion up the rest of the ancient world. The Egyptians also knew of the atom (Atum) and I'm inclined to believe Democritus probably picked up the basics of his ideas while traveling there. However, his treatment of the atom is much less sophisticated than that of the Indian sages Kanada and Kapila. I recommend anyone who is interested in ancient wisdom read some of their works. Also I disagree with Bertrand Russell's conclusion at the end of this being the high point of Greek philosophy and everything else being down hill and diminished. He places too much importance on the gaining of scientific knowledge - and therefore the sophists and the platonists seem like men involved in fancy. But truthfully they were concerned with the mystery of being an individual in this world; that is the primary mystery they faced in life and in fact it is also the primary mystery that each of us faces today. As far as the world is concerned, they hardly had the ability to develop their ideas much further without any way to make measurements on very small scales. The existence of the atom is evident when pondering the beginning, as anything composed of parts is obviously preceded by the parts that make it up. Remember that these ancient men weren't speaking of the atom we know today, they simply meant the the smallest things, those that can cannot be divided any further. We know this is not true of our 'atoms'. We named them prematurely, in a sense. Their ideas would be more akin to what we know as quarks and leptons. But even they do not exist eternally as it would seem they must on first thought. This is where you have to appreciate the foresight of Kapila - considered foolishness for many hundreds of years. He said that there was something even deeper and more fundamental than the different types of atoms - the all pervading one which the atoms arise from and sink back into. This is exactly the behavior we witness with tiny particles being manifestations of the fields that permeate every part of this universe. Cheers all.

@georgenaratadam3803 4 жыл бұрын

Cool post. Gonna dive deeper into Kapila. But how did he conceive of that without experimental techniques at his disposal?

@luchotenks2310 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgenaratadam3803 Probably in the same way the atomists did (see 10:03 - 10:15).

@hyperduality2838 4 жыл бұрын

Democracy is a dual concept:- Objective democracy is dual to subjective democracy! Objective democracy is independent of the observer's perspective, mutual agreement or 100% consensus. In physics the velocity of light is the same and equal for all observers, it is independent of the observer's perspective -- objective democracy. All objects fall at the same equal rate in a gravitational field -- Galileo, Einstein. Gravity conforms to a principle of objective democracy, tensors are 'frame invariant' transforms.

@jesinu 4 жыл бұрын

How did I end up here?

@paulheinrichdietrich9518 2 жыл бұрын

Don't ask why, just be thankful that you got here.

@hanumaniam 3 ай бұрын

Do you want a mechanistic or teleological answer?

@robertoneill3616 5 жыл бұрын

Modern philosophy never allows you to think. Those elements, electronic particles are never in Rest.

@hyperduality2838 4 жыл бұрын

Space is dual to time -- Einstein. Electric charge -- positive is dual to negative. Magnetic -- north poles are dual to south poles. Electro is dual to magnetic -- Electromagnetic energy is dual. Energy is duality, duality is energy, potential energy is dual to kinetic energy. Gravitation is equivalent or dual to acceleration -- Einstein's happiest thought.

@johnpaul1789 3 жыл бұрын

The greatest thing Einstein ever did was build a washing machine motor He was an idiot at best