That calendar is viable only if they increase the points in the challenger tournaments, like doing challengers 150/175 in that "only challengers week". Right now, ATP is taking the oppositte way, because last year they increase the points on the atp tour and decrese in the challengers. For that reason, i think the easiest solution is just get rid of the mandatory tournaments rule, because it doesnt make sense at all
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's what I thought for the Challenger only week
@senzanome67023 ай бұрын
I agree with you man. But unfortunatly very hardlly will happen, instead i'm scared that they will try tto add masters 1000. Unfortuntly in this days the calendar has too many tournament it's nice to have a show with this consistency, but in my opinion is better to have the players in good shape without "destroing" their body and also think the less tournament will produce better quality match. So we would have less quantity of show but with morew quality. For this reasons i agree with you.
@geraldiner25273 ай бұрын
The April calendar is kind of all over the place with all different continents and surfaces. The rest of the calendar looks good though
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
April is only in Europe and on clay tho?
@geraldiner25273 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare Maybe it's not April, but you put one month with tournaments in South America, North America, and Europe and then one random hard court tourney in Dubai
@labynoe3 ай бұрын
Miami shouldn't be dropped, because I live in South Florida! Keep the Sunshine Double Alive!!!🤣
@br17292 ай бұрын
Good topic for a video. I didn’t hear you mention it, but I assume the Shanghai Masters is one of your 6 1000 level tournaments. You didn’t mention it, but I think I saw on the screen that London sneaks in a 1000 level grass tournament before Wimbledon. I don’t think there are enough grass court tournaments to justify a 1000 in addition to Wimbledon. AO doesn’t have a 1000 level tournament in its run-up, so Wimbledon doesn’t need one either. Cutting London 1000 would allow keeping Cincinnati, which is the oldest tournament in the U.S. If Roland-Garros can have two 1000 level tournaments in its run-up, then so can the US Open. U.S. is still the single biggest tennis market.
@kaiserandvlad3 ай бұрын
i agree except for london 1k because a) thats basically wimbledon and b) i like the system of having two slams with significant buildups (roland garros, us open) to see who is in best shape and two with no buildup for a wildcard effect
@brendajohnson55253 ай бұрын
I agree with no mandatory tournaments. As to which ones get eliminated depends on the $£€ money. I am certain that Cincy should go because I spent a year there one day 😂and Miami is in a football stadium.
@MicroCheese643 ай бұрын
Gimme a grass masters and get rid of a clay one. No mandatory tournaments and I’m happy.
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
There's only 3 clay masters ajd 6 hardcourt. Makes mucj more sense to get rid of a hardcourt masters.
@bigbrain69663 ай бұрын
I think they should keep the amount of masters and make a system where you save a decreased amount of points from a tournament for top players so missing small tournaments matters less.
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
Top players don't need more help. Its the players outside the top 30 that get screwed. And its for them that the smaller tournaments like 250s really exist, if a top player wants to keepnthe points from the tournament they should have to defend it
@zoechicken94453 ай бұрын
It’s a good day when this guy posts
@leumas04123 ай бұрын
Not bad! Nonetheless, I have a few notes: 1) Spain is one of if not the biggest tennis countries in the world (arguably historically deserves a Grand Slam) an to get rid of its only M1000 seems unfair to me. I would rather get rid of Monte Carlo where quality of tennis sometimes sucks because of wind and rain. 2) I think that the Asian swing is good, but players often drop it from their calendars because it's not worth the travel. The fact that the tournaments weren't held during covid only "helped" this. I don't know if the Shanghai Masters is needed, for me it's the M1000 event I care the least about together with Toronto/Montreal. I would much rather re-introduce the indoor Madrid Masters (only is we left out clay court Madrid in April of course.) 3) I would consider making grass court season longer and move Wimbledon to weeks 29, 30 at the expense of Winston-Salem. (I really think that the US have more ATP-level tournaments than necessary.)
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
I like making there be no mandatory ones, but flat out dropping 4 masters seems overkill. 9 masters isn't a problem imo, its having 8 required and two weeks long that is bad
@jose122343 ай бұрын
ATP needs to mimic the F1 calendar(have 1 -2 events every week with a month break in summer or after Wimbledon in this case ) .As you said ,too many events is not good .Quality over Quantity type of thing . We as the fans need to feel hyped for the next tournament ! I think the ATP should just have: 1. all 8 current master 1000's last a week , 2. 1 atp 250 event (Adelaide as the season opener ) 3. 2 atp 500 events (preferably Barcelona and Queens ), 4.make the 4 grandslams last 2 weeks , 5 .make Davis hyped and good again (remove atp cup also ) 6 .laver cup (like an NBA all start type of event ) 7. move the MIAMI OPEN BACK TO KEY BISCAYNE 8. Make Halle open a master 1000 event (we have an atp 1000 event on every other surface + the stadium for halle open is cooler than queens club imo ) 8. end off the season with Nitto atp . 9. Hype up the next gen tournament more 10 .BRING BACK BREAKPOINT , I personally wasn't the biggest fan of the show but it had huge potential for tennis .Just look at what "Drive to Survive " did for F1 IF anyone wants to play more events ,then they have to play challengers simple 🤷♂ . This way the prize money players make can be more also ,as more people will be watching more of the important events . Also Challengers will get more hyped .Kinda like the ATP is F1 and challengers is F2 .
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
Only one 250 and only 2 500s screws anybody outside of the top 20 over hard. The existence of 250s doesn't hurt top players it just helps lower ranked players actually make a living and buildnuo steam rather than running into a top 10 guy every round 1 or 2. And if you force all these top 30-70 tour players down into the challengers, you wreck everybody currently on the challenger level. Terrible situation all around
@kingoftennis943 ай бұрын
This is mercy for the top 10 players only. Other players who lose early rounds are not complaining. Remove mandatory requirements. Everything else is fine
@funkysam13453 ай бұрын
Okay super hot take. Lets make the grand slams rarer and more special. How about AO and Wimbi in 1 yr, nd FO ND USO in next? then we can space out the ATP tours on the calender
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
If anyone actually sees this comment they'll try to cook you😁 But I see the vision
@senzanome67023 ай бұрын
Strange idea, but it make sense, i don't know if i can agree, but i see what you're thinking
@decapodbruiser3 ай бұрын
I think they need to spread the summer ones out a bit more on the calendar. It’d be cool to have an equal clay , grass & hard court season with a challenger weeks after the slams. And have the seasonal lead up tournaments have a bigger impact on the upcoming slam seedings. The 1000s should be rarer to drive interest.
@leumas04123 ай бұрын
Take it further. Each Grand Slam will happen every 4 years, so 2025 - AO, 2026 - RG, 2027 - Wimbledon, 2028 - USO.
@funkysam13453 ай бұрын
@@leumas0412 nah I think u need at least 2 each yr. My only reason fr this structure was that since grand slam Majors are the epitomy of tennis achievements we should probably keep them special by adding some rarity.
@josiahbrown72583 ай бұрын
It's an interesting proposal and I think a generally well balanced schedule. However, this is an unrealistic schedule for tons of reasons. Lowering player mandatories and big tournaments is very unlikely to happen. I do agree that back to back 1000 series tournaments is and always has been a really dumb practice. I feel like they should at least have 1 or 2 weeks in between them. I also agree that 2 weeks or 10 days for some of the 1000s is stupid and unnecessary since you get the same number of points either way. Right now having 9 masters but none on grass is an abomination. From the hardcourt ones I think either cicny or paris should be dropped although i miss the old miami tourny at key biscane. For clay I think they should drop madrid since it plays more like a hardcourt than clay. With all that said. The sport is a grind and I think taking away too many big tournaments isn't right but having big tournaments thatare missing top players due to rest is just a clear indication that it's too much with how physically challenging the game is now.
@Secretlyintelligent3 ай бұрын
This is the solution!!!
@alessandrovalente76452 ай бұрын
Players are only unhappy when they lose. Then play additional exhibitions and tournaments on their own. I think they can lower the mandatory games a bit. You also need to take into account that more tournaments help non top players to get more games and earn some money.
@esnodop1982Ай бұрын
I would rather see Rio being Upgraded to an Masters 1000 than London being made one. South America deserves an 1000 Event.
@thepuristsnightmareАй бұрын
Wanted a grass masters more
@arthurdebuck25763 ай бұрын
Agree that 2 week masters tournaments stink and clog up the schedule completely unnecessarily, however I don't think the recent criticism of Iga and Carlos is completely justified. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic consistently played 80+ or 90+ matches in a season earlier in their careers. Even Serena, not known for playing that much outside the grand slams, played 82 matches in 2013. Neither Iga or Carlos have ever played 80 matches in a season. Also on another note I think Paris masters is great because it's the week before the ATP finals so the race to Turin gets decided there with all the best players present. ATP completely messed this up last year by putting 250's in Sofia and Metz the week after Paris, resulting in mass withdrawals from players who already qualified/couldn't qualify anymore for Turin. Hopefully they'll fix this in 2025.
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
Iga and Carlos were medalists at the Olympics. The Olympics plus everything else in the summer is just nuts, especially with all thebsurface changes. And then two week masters too? This is the problen with the schedule, not just the number of tournaments butbthe whem and how of it
@MagicMan-h3b2 ай бұрын
😩
@Realnightmar33 ай бұрын
Davis cup video maybe?????????❤
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
Not sure tbh, haven't been paying too much attention to it rn
@markangelocalica14783 ай бұрын
A Question: In the first week of 2027 will debut the first Master 1000 in Jeddah. What do you do?
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
I laugh at how much players won't care about it
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten3 ай бұрын
5:37 You say this yet you upgraded Queens to 1000 instead of Halle, why does London deserve two big tournaments?
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
Wasn't sure that they had facilities to accommodate a 1000, but if they do, then I would agree with switching those around
@ben11473 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare Hamburg used to be a 1000, just change the courts to grass and all it's ready to go.
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
That's not that easy to do
@rickrivers20213 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmarefrom what I've heard, Queena would be the one that logistically struggles to support a 1000. Not enough space and unable to expand. Also, Germany doesn't have a masters
@lfhass3 ай бұрын
It’s not a perfect calendar, but it’s promising. Too bad the atp will never go for it. Losing one 1000 event would cost them millions, imagine getting rid of 5… Hopefully the players are the ones who initiate the necessary change.
@TennisNeedsMore3 ай бұрын
I'm just here to write the obligatory b**thurt comment: Nooo Cincyyyy 😥 Take iz EEEEZZZ my friend
@yeetsauceyi94713 ай бұрын
Where would Shanghai be placed
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
In the same spot
@yeetsauceyi94713 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare k
@SwanTech60613 ай бұрын
i mean it’s alright like
@zakgale73583 ай бұрын
I stilll think Halle would be cooler for a m1000 and scrap Tokyo
@al1976-v7m3 ай бұрын
Wait, so you're ditching Paris Masters because Paris doesn't need a second event, but you're adding a grasscourt Masters 1000 in... London? Where, at Queens Club? You know Wimbledon is in London right?
@kevinying7643 ай бұрын
I think Halle should be the grass masters
@al1976-v7m3 ай бұрын
@@kevinying764 Grass season doesn't need a Masters, and even less so if the Masters 1000 series is reduced to 6 tournaments.
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
I know that, but I want a grass masters, so had to do what I had to do
@ordenanzm3 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare😂
@sameerkashyap17503 ай бұрын
Miami and Cincy should just go. I am not even kidding. You cannot see shit in Cincy and Miami just sucks. Also France having three big titles is very stupid imo.
@BluntedRazor983 ай бұрын
Waaaay too many tournaments (especially those pointless clay tournaments after the clay season and during the grass season)
@RyL30113 ай бұрын
You get rid of Cincy, I dislike your video. Simple enough
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
Tough, but honestly Cinci is unnecessary
@RyL30113 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare way better than Canada 😂😂😂
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
Canada don't get tournaments as is
@al1976-v7m3 ай бұрын
@@thepuristsnightmare it is the only tournament in the American Midwest.
@jose122343 ай бұрын
Cinci is the worst 1000 fs
@syeedchowdhury25013 ай бұрын
Your solution is pathetic.. the ideal solution is just to change the mandatory participation requirements and bring that amount down to a minimum quantity
@thepuristsnightmare3 ай бұрын
You are genuinely very weird and it has nothing to do with you disagreeing with me