The Aussie Muscle Cars That Americans Were Afraid Of!

[@adamwhite248]

This is the worst Australian Muscle Car clip and commentary ive ever seen.Besides being technically inaccurate,it left out LC,LJ XU-1,LH SLR 5000,LX A9X Toranas,HT,HG 350 Monaro GTS,XW GT Phase 1 and 2,Chrysler E-49 Charger,Bolwell Nagari,even Leyland P76 Force 7.Not to mention later model Commodores and Falcons.Plus the good old 253/308/304 Australias V8.

[@Issueforth]

Too true. One perspective that leaves out so many other influential and beloved models.

[@raviscott4853]

Technically inaccurate. I'd go further and say, factually incorrect.

[@johnzieba6442]

A lot of the cars mentioned here were not muscle, how can a luxury car be a muscle,for a start they are too heavy,the luxury cars didn’t have the same engine as the muscle car,same engine block & that all, performance bits missing luxury cars had soft suspension &all the other garage etc 1/2 of the video was B/S they left out other muscle cars that are more important than the luxury cars they claimed were muscle cars

[@johnnyboy1586]

Love those old manaros

[@larrymorgan3858]

It's another AI KZbin video i'm over the shit already you can tell when it says 5 point 0 liter instead of 5 liter... Fuck off AI

[@PaulA-bv1rt]

This did leave me speechless. I hate text to speech these channels use.

[@KeithHeinrich]

Its even worse than that, its sloppy AI based crap.

[@Davidm1956]

And the music is shit!

[@ehtcom]

@@KeithHeinrich when I grow up I wanna race at bath hurst.

[@p38arover22]

@@ehtcom Jeremy Clarkson also called it “Barth Hurst”.

[@liamgross7217]

Aussie here, we love our Aussie muscle, as for it making the US look tame…. That’s a Hellava stretch.

[@mrbrisvegas2]

Reality: US muscle car factory claimed power outputs were total fiction. In most cases they were *much* lower than even the SAE gross figures which overstated output by around 30%. Tests on cars bought from dealers rarely achieved *anywhere* near the claimed performance. Road tests (with the exception of Road & Track) were totally unreliable. Australian power outputs were often vastly higher than claimed for insurance purposes. eg The '228KW' GTHO Phase III actually produced over 280KW on a dyno. That is more than real output of most American big block engines. For some perspective: In 1967 Drag racing legend Don Arbutts drove his bog standard Mercedes 300SEL-6.3 sedan to a series of drag tracks across the US. Despite having a mere 185KW, an automatic and 1800Kg weight he managed to beat all comers. The *only* unmodified production car that ever beat him over a 1/4 mile was a much lighter Corvette 427 big block. [Arbutts also said his Mercedes was the only car that could be safely driven at over 100 mph.]

[@mikldude9376]

Some nice old cars there , but as others have mentioned, it was really the 66/67 XR falcon GT that was the beginning of the Aussie muscle car era , and you missed quite a few including the XT GT , XW GT , , Torana GTR , And XU1 models , the later V8 torana models , the 350 CI monaro models , just off the top of my head . Stoll quite a few cool old cars featured , brings back memories, thanks for posting.

[@jayartz8562]

I reckon the AP6 V8 kicked it off.

[@classicscustomsandhotrodso600]

@@jayartz8562Correct. 273v8

[@raviscott4853]

@@jayartz8562 Correct. Chrysler was first of the Aussie 3 to offer a v8 in an Australian built car, that being the LA - 273 ci in the AP6.

[@tonywoodland4665]

Soo true those days are gone 😢

[@bengepp9314]

Seems the 1st Aussie built V8, AP6 Valiant is easily forgotten 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@allworldmusic8270]

The Monaro didn't start it in Australia it was the 67 Ford GT with a 225hp 289 Windsor same engine as the Mustang, also all our Aussie muscle cars had small blocks the US were not envious of us it was the other way around, still bloody great cars though.

[@davidlilja9180]

Not all bro, our very last production Monaro briefly 'wore' a 427 alloy big-block too. So Brock did win 10 Bathursts, afterall! How many did Moffat and Johnson win? 🤔

[@astrawally8448]

Holden man here and I agree with you - the XR GT was what kicked off the domestic Ford vs GM war and what gave us these great cars.

[@astrawally8448]

@@davidlilja9180 yes Brock won 10 races at Bathurst but only won 9 of the 1000s. Also the 427 in those Garry Rogers Monaros was a larger bore/stroke version of the LS2 (6.0L) and thus technically a small block. But what a car and what a drive by Brock and team.

[@JohnNaylor-n5r]

@@allworldmusic8270 well do you think Chrysler may of started the muscle car era with the first v8 in oz, I know they didn’t have a manual and they did come tenth at Bathurst behind the mini, if their were factory backed it could of been a different story!

[@liamgross7217]

@@JohnNaylor-n5r yes, ( I liked the VIP green with black vinyl roof )that doesn’t get noted very often. The XRGT was when the marketing war began though.

[@michaelgill5186]

We were ALL AFRAID of them ..they were uncontrollable in wet weather..live axles no LSD xply tyres and drum brakes on most ..be afraid be very afraid !!!

[@Rob-fc9wg]

Steering, brakes and suspension straight off an 1850s Cobb & Co mail coach.

[@gone547]

Obviousy you never owned one, let alone have driven one. Try and keep your judgement within the context of the day and aportion any blame to the nut behind the wheel. I owned a few of them and was never AFRAID of any of them. I explored their limits, and stayed within them. Anything will bite you if you mistreat it. Even a loaded rifle is safe if pointed in the right direction with your finger off the trigger. Hysterics by a few self-serving Motoring Journalists of the day is what killed off what could have been, and enthusiasts were cheated. Imagine an LT1 powered Monaro with 4 wheel discs and a 340 manual Charger. World class weapons. Ford was trying so hard but only had a taxi chassis to work with.

[@boo5877]

You can only describe these cars this way if you can not drive, or you under 35.

[@kenfowler1980]

Um I think you need to remember some of the graphic photos of road accidents in the newspapers at the time. That’s what killed them off. Yes you are correct in the fact that we can’t measure them against modern standards, but their brakes, suspension, steering etc were not even in keeping with what high performance stuff was coming in from Europe or what soon would come from Japan.

[@kenfowler1980]

@@boo5877 well have to say I’m well above 35 and have had a hell of a lot of driver training and experience! The problem was they were great in the hands of an experienced & trained driver, but not in the hands of a normal person. Of course there were always the exceptions, but there weren’t many or they didn’t live long! Cheers

[@nickl2548]

If your talking muscle cars of that era, then where's the following cars? Torana GTR XU1, Torana L34. and the undisputed king Torana A9X. In future , just let Aussies talk about their cars. You can focus on your American muscle.

[@Oissir]

Yeah he obviously hasn't done his research, musta had a piss up that night 😂

[@ChrisHolden-rv2fh]

it's not bad, but he could of done a bit better

[@nickl2548]

I suspect, this maybe AI

[@robertmorris6529]

​@@nickl2548ya think ?

[@nickl2548]

@@robertmorris6529 Has this person replied back , with dialogue to anyone in the comments ?

[@popeye807]

I don't care what anyone says a Monaro should NEVER be a 4 door car.

[@danielponiatowski7368]

absolutely, my first was a HK then a HQ and a CV8 a few years ago, i never recognised the 4 door as a monaro. as a side note, my cousin has a HG bathurst in his garage gathering dust, its probably worth more than the property its on even with the engine out waiting to be rebuilt, one day.

[@petermurphy3354]

Hey Popeye, the 1st Holden to use the Monaro name was in fact the HR. In 1967 I had a PE teacher who bought a new late production HR with the 186S motor, 4 speed manual, disk brake front, centre console between the bucket seats with a Tacho mounted in it. It had Monaro badges on the rear pillar. The HK Monaro wasn't released until July 1968, probably for Bathurst. I have had a 289 XR Falcon & my mate owned an HT GTS 350 Monaro that I drive many time. It had a 4 speed Muncie, but I think it was originally an Auto as they only came in Auto with the 350ci. The HR was probably a trial run version as another friend had an EH Premier with a full factory gauge cluster extending over the centre front speaker, 4 speed auto, hatch thru to the fully carpeted boot via the arm rest cavity, side mounted spare wheel with a long range tank. Cheers Peter from Oz

[@popeye807]

@@petermurphy3354 Hi Peter I just checked on google and it said the HR Monaro was more a prototype than a production car

[@danielponiatowski7368]

@@petermurphy3354 i've seen the HRs with X1 badges.

[@capnfrankly]

Well my HT 35 was a 2 door but I agree with your sentiments !

[@marksimpson2689]

The RPO option on the XAGT was to shift the parts that were meant for the canceled XA GTHO Phase 4

[@LogicalAspect1]

Agreed, rumor or has it that so many RPO parts were left over, that ford built them into their standard model base lines, XA,XB and the XC GXL, in order to get rid of the parts, Ford Australia never told the salesmen of the parts that went into those base models... I once physically seen an XC GXL, had a 351 with 4 bolt mains, enhanced Top Loader gearbox, and a differential not seen on the base models, the gearbox had the oversized oil sumpan ( the one with the side wings) and the whole kit went like a rocket sled on rails.

[@petermurphy3354]

​@@LogicalAspect1 A mate of mine had an XA GT RPO. The compliance plate said Falcon Special. The 351 4V Cleveland engine was built in Factory 5 or 7 (I think), had Crane roller rockers, solid lifters, Track 4 cam, 800cfm Holley, headers and a rediculous low ratio final drive. Printout from Ford reported misfires on cyl 5-LEAVE as it clears but develops exceptional power. This engine was brutal as it had all the gofast gear for Bathurst

[@liamgross7217]

@@marksimpson2689 the RPO was a good buy years back before people worked out what they were.

[@marksimpson2689]

@LogicalAspect1 I've read up on it and yes it was to get rid of parts from the killed off Phase 4 program. There was to be a Phase 5 built using the XA coupe

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

I had a 1972 XA 2 door hardtop coup GT HO Phase 4. No. 8 of 24 according to the Compliance Plate. A "barn find", I had it Authenticated by Ford Australia pty ltd, and BSS 1981 before I started the 9yr resto'.

[@michaelkeogh7722]

You need to audit your text-to-speech better. You had it pronounce the 2 letter model codes or trim specs as words. Also at one point it read V as a Roman numeral 5, saying one car has a five-eight engine. Text-to-speech is a tool, but you’ve got to monitor its output to prevent silly errors like that.

[@davidlilja9180]

My first 2 cars were an HK stock crashbox, 186 sedan, then an HG man ex-V8 sedan wearing GTS guards and bonnet, with a slightly moded 186, with 6 into 2 extractors, dual pipes, & a Premier grille & interior. I only recall my parents owing an FX, EH wagon, then an HQ wagon, before leaving the brand for a 200B wagon. So, I personally do have a soft spot for older ones. Starting my mechanic's apprenticeship in 1980, for a Vic government department, I got to learn my craft on a wide-ranging fleet. That included many HX, HZ, & WBs, mainly as panel-vans. They remain the easiest vehicles I've ever maintained throughout my career. I've spent over 15yrs with one of 2, Oz auto-clubs, as a breakdown mechanic; working on over 7,000 vehicles pa at my peak. Holdens of most types, that were at least partially designed in Oz, remained near the top of the list for ease of work by the roadside if needed, too. The fact that I loved the production car racing of the day, as well as the F1 tech of that time, did encourage me to find out that both the HK & HG were still both safe enough to reach, or exceed, 160kph in the right conditions. The HG, with its moded interior, brakes, suspension , tyres/wheels & steering, was much more so. Efficiency has become much more important to me over time. I've been driving an Oz built, 1996 Corolla auto hatch for many years now. Only its major failure, or a hybrid or electric vehicle, could temp me to consider changing for now. Good cars can have a great lifespan, & remain environmentally justifiable, because so much energy has already been put into building them. A new car mean a new load of energy to build it & recycle the old one. Cars of today are far more efficient, largely thanks to emissions rules. Motor racing, by manufacturers, has always offered the chance to test a vehicle's bounds in the real world, where we all expect to be safe whilst driving our often 2-tonne, plus potentially deadly, 160kph+ factory made machines. I wish I didn't like the sound of a well-tuned ICE, with a suitable exhaust sound. An A9X crossing the Bathurst mountain top, surreal, back in the day; but I've never REALLY wanted to buy or own one. I've driven enough of other people's cars to know what I don't want to live with. Build one myself, perhaps? 🤔 I last tried that, on a budget, with a Datsun 1200 wagon in the 80s. What a change! I was so glad I didn't bother going above 1400cc. I learned enough about mixing a very light weight with just a 15-25% power increase, to not need to do it ever again! My well-imagined 'dream' car would have been a .......but they don't make Holdens anymore.

[@21stcenturyozman20]

When I was 21 and stupid, I bought a new Monaro GTS 253 off the showroom floor; it was a run-out of the HG series - the HQ was already on sale. Unfortunately, my Monaro must have been built on a Friday: it rapidly fell apart. The dealer wasn't the least bit interested in doing repairs under warranty, and at 8,000 miles on the clock I returned it to the dealership emblazoned with "lemon" written in toothpaste (really bad for the metallic paint!). Of the 75 cars I've owned, that Monaro was by far the greatest disappointment. After that I turned to European cars.

[@ryanadams3858]

I didn’t know David Attenborough was a rev head

[@Rob1970s]

THAT WAS RATHER EXCITING !!! 😲 Thankyou for bringing back some great Memories 😢

[@ray.shoesmith]

I had a '69 HT Monaro. Sold it in 2000 for $2k, biggest mistake of my life 😢

[@dreamkillerxcu]

Dont worry mate a lot of us had similar mistakes, myself I sold my 77 Torana SS for under 4k I guess back then it was just another car.

[@mikldude9376]

Thats a shame mate , i had a couple of mates with early monaros , they actually drove quite nice too i think , but a lot of the old cars where great cruisers . Yes a lot of us have some regrets , if only we knew then what we know now ]: i remember going to the back street drags as a young bloke many times , one particular night there was a lovely black very warmed up 327 monaro whizzing dowm the strip/road , and he snapped the tailshaft at speed , the tailshaft dug in , either that or he broke the shaft and ran it over , it was amazing to see and it sent the ass end up in the air with masses of sparks ,car bouncing down the road , it was like a movie scene , he managed to keep it on the road , and park it up , and walked back up to the unofficial starting line , the poor barsted was white as a sheet :) .

[@ray.shoesmith]

@@mikldude9376 Mine was all original with the iron lion 253 v8. The engine had been fully reco'd and it was my first car. I paid $5k for it in 1986 from an old mechanic in the bush and drove the wheels off it for 6 years. Moved to Vic which had much tougher roadworthy rules, the indicator lenses were crazed, there was a tear in the roof liner, seats were cracked under the seat covers etc. I was poor but I could get a lease car through work so it went on blocks for years. Mrs got the shits about it in the backyard, I was always intending to restore it but work, kids etc. Got an offer from a family friend for $1k, I upped it to $2. Now you can't find a wreck for under $20k..

[@Ken_James_SV]

I did the exact same thing. That was only one of my Auto mistakes, and there's been many!

[@marinovignola330]

You forgot the Xr 66 falcon Gt . Must be a Holden man

[@chrisrumble2665]

It would be a good idea to do more thorough research before you showcase your lack of knowledge.

[@cheltboy]

Agree with previous comments that it was the 66/67 XR Falcon GT with the 289 ci V8 that kicked off the Aussie Muscle car era. Perhaps also give a nod to the 64 Holden EH sedan with the performance option.

[@liamgross7217]

Still got may XR GT, ain’t no rocket by todays standards but still very cool to cruise in.

[@capnfrankly]

Yea that was the EH X2 model . twin Carbs, had one before I bought my first Monaro (327 )

[@liamgross7217]

@@capnfrankly I really like the HK Monaros.

[@codeblue9004]

These cars bring back memories when i lived in Sydney.

[@michaelgill5186]

Oops gotta turn off the commentary

[@Oissir]

@@michaelgill5186 he can't even say our names in our English language 🤣

[@denislandry7577]

I’m in Canada but USA is are neighbours so we get the same asides from a few different stuff , you guys gets the same with a little different body looks , well some of us drive on wrong side of the road , not sure who that is , LOL , but we have a lot in common , so for that reason I have to subscribe, well done keep the good work ❤

[@liamgross7217]

Aussie here, we love our Aussie muscle, as for it making the US look tame…. That’s a Hellava stretch.

[@grantwatson9232]

We may drive on the wrong side of the road, but the steering wheels on our cars are on the right side! LOL G

[@racketman2u]

The XA GT Coupe was the meanest looking of the lot. The Landau was just a pimped version of that.

[@Rob1970s]

I feel like the valiant Ute had that muscle look and they were lighter in the rear .. I love all of these and all the others you missed but if I had a choice I'd like another valiant Ute with the 318 .. my favorite for sure !!! You American's don't know what you are missing out on , These vehicles are epic!!! Built for the hot Dry rough Aussie outback highways... There a real treat just to drive let alone own .. Get one while you still have a chance , because there getting rear as hens teeth ... OH God I wanna nother one 🥺🙏

[@davidoneil8003]

I think you will find the Charger Sportsman was equipped with a 265 six cylinder.

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

That was one option , so was 318 , but 340 was the top option

[@garysouthwell5762]

245 or 4.0 litre was the standard Sportsman in 1974-5

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

@@garysouthwell5762 yes , then 318, 360 and top was 340 option .

[@nigelliam153]

Remember watching Moffats victory , bench seats, single driver incredible performance.

[@aussiepete109]

More corrections! "VJ Charger Sportsman (option A23) In August 1974, a limited edition Charger Sportsman was released, based upon the Charger XL. Built to a quantity of 500 units, all Sportsman cars were painted an exclusive combination of Vintage Red and white, with a combination black and white interior featuring specific cloth trim. These cars were powered by the standard 265ci engine and four speed manual transmission." "VJ Charger 770 (with option E55) When specified with the E55 340ci V8 engine option, such VJ-series cars were no longer tagged as a special edition Charger 770 "SE"."

[@James-bh1hx]

Yeah it was a bit down on facts and some of the other true muscle cars that dominated our streets. Torana XU1 in purple just to name one, as an Aussie I grew up in this amazing muscle car era and proud of it ! 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺👍😎

[@JimGoose-hl4cx]

Hilarious the commentater say pacer has a 225 ci slant six but the vid has a v8 under the hood😂😂😂😂😂

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

And the pacer model had a 245 Hemi , it's even on one shot of the gard .

[@uforferdetnilsson2595]

@@JosephCowen-fz8vj en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi-6_Engine

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

@@uforferdetnilsson2595 yeah I know what a Hemi Six is . The 245 Hemi Pacer was the first use of the Hemi .

[@JimGoose-hl4cx]

@@JosephCowen-fz8vj yes the vg did have a 245 . I had a vg pacer and put a 245 in it.. someone had put a x speedway slant in mine..

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

@@JimGoose-hl4cx yep , you know the slant had a very long life as a motor , they even cast them in all alloy in the states in the 1960s , it's a rare motor the alloy one.

[@davidlilja9180]

Although locally adapted, Falcons were US designed until the XD arrived. Seeing a left-hand drive, US located, XC GXL wagon variant, confirmed that for me.

[@domenicozagari2443]

The Torana gtr x was inspired by the fiat 850 sport coupe.

[@glennthoday9740]

The 770 was the upmarket version with 318 v8...the hemi engined 6 cylinder version was not called the 770. The top of the line version with the 318 fireball engine was called the Regal 770.

[@alan-rc2tv]

That pacer they are showing is a VG which had a 245 Hemi engine. The previous model, the VF had the 225 slant 6

[@AndyViant]

You missed out Australia's fastest muscle car. The W557 GTS Walkinshaw (and the far more common but still exceptionally rare) W427 GTS Walkinshaw. Being modern cars they might be out of scope. But they are the pinnacle of Aussie Muscle. Or for the classic "muscle car" era the Bolwell Nagari (when equipped with the V8 351 Cleveland) would be the fastest. A significant reduction of the weight of the Phase III but all the power depending on the engine spec. These things were utter beasts but being a low volume manufacturer they never got the credit they deserved. Leaving out the XU1-GTR and A9X Torana SS was also a bad choice. The 770 Charger had the options of a 265 6 cyl, 318 v8, and 340 E55 which was a lower performance engine than the 265 Hemi in E38 or E49 form. While the E55 might have had the potential for more horsepower the extra weight of the v8 made them slower around the track so the E55 wasn't the weapon of choice for racing.

[@greenhouse3505]

To all you ladies having a bitch. Don't get ya panties in a twist. This bloke is starting a new channel. So far 15 vids in 2 months. I've got no issues with him leaving out your prejudicial favorites this time. I'm sure in the coming weeks he'll review them all. So just hold ya horses. Personally my friend, I liked the way you put this together. Plenty of shots I hadn't seen before. There are brand guys & there are CAR guys. True enthusiasts that love all the unique differences. Ignore the trolls. I'm looking forward to the torries, leyland etc... reviews you likely have planned. Cheers

[@johnperry1334]

So many wrong facts here. Or wrong cars shown.

[@AmericanPatriots-r2c]

@@greenhouse3505 Thanks mate:)

[@adamwhite248]

@@greenhouse3505 get the facts right.obviously did bugger all research.literally half the information was incorrect.if youre gonna do it,do it right.

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

Yeah I don't know why people run these vids down, it was one of the most accurate I've seen .

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

​@@johnperry1334yeah not really , pretty much spot on , it's hard to find pics so you got to let go on stuff most people don't even know about .

[@bengepp9314]

1973 Pontiac Trans Am , King of ALL

[@pineapplesideways3820]

Torana xu1 and torana lx ss smoke pontiacs and eat them for breakfast

[@kenchristie9214]

The Monaro is named after the Monaro Plateau, where Australia's capital city is located. When at Fairbairn Air Base, discovered that Canberra is the rev-head capital of Australia. The Falcon XY GT Super Roo with the 351 V8 before transmission modification, could also outrun itself. The Ford test driver said that, on acceleration, the rear wheels would try to overtake the front wheels, and even he had problems steering the vehicle. The Valiant charger isn't a chicken coop, it's a coupe? The Ford Landau, as big as it seemed from the outside, was cramped inside, especially for the rear passengers. When I remarked to my friend there was little room inside his Landau, he replied that his wife's '74 Toyota Celica had more interior space. At 178 cm, sitting in the rear, my head was touching the roof. In 1978, The federal government increased the fuel excise tax. Overnight, the price of 98 octane petrol increased from 14.5 cents per litre to 37.5 cents per litre, severely reducing the appeal of muscle cars. The one muscle car that isn't mentioned was the Leyland P76 Force 7, which tragically, was never put into full production. If I had more money than brains, I would love to own the 1971 Ford Falcon 351 Super Roo (in duck egg blue) and the Leyland P76 Force 7 (orange).

[@alwynemcintyre2184]

Charger sportsman never had the 340 V8, 340 was only in a special edition VH charger and that was killed off because of the super car scare. The sportsman was a short run styling package which took a lot of time to paint, it took 3 runs through paint booth to paint it. I know I had to paint the damn things.

[@shanehansen3705]

one of the best things about the Monaro was the back seat my old HT model it was like a couch when you're a young bloke that's pretty handy nudge nudge wink wink

[@phaztheaussiebastard]

The 1968monaro was holden's response to the 1967 XR GT falcon

[@mercurycougar2520]

I don't think you know Australian muscle cars, in 1967 the Ford Falcon XR GT was the V8 that changed the game in Australia. Ford Landau, WTF?

[@capnfrankly]

Too true, the Ford 351GT HO and the Holden Monaro HT 350 were the cars of the 1968 -1971 era you may have noticed them winning at Bathurst where only cars with a set number were allowed on the road, think it was 200 on the road before they could enter Bathurst ?

[@Mopar-Pioneer]

I can remember pics of the Torana GTRX in hot rod magazine at home in Canada in the late sixties. It was thought, according to the caption then. it was to be called the holden arrow.

[@michaelgill5186]

Errr the XRGT Falcon was before the GTS

[@Oissir]

Yeah of course, nothing worse than a pom who can't pronounce our words correctly, 😂

[@robertmorris6529]

​@Oissir Non-human voice . Sounds better than fake American !

[@janehanlon2802]

Missed a few in this video , no xu1, no e38 charger,no e49 charger , but mentions the landu , and no Xr or xx gt either , just goes to show when someone from another country does a video on Ozzie muscle cars lol

[@MichaelBraid-xf3dw]

Best looking I think are the E38 and E49 big tank Chargers well done aussies

[@gavinhalls3475]

if you are going talk about aussie muscle cars be correct in what you say this is our motoring heritage and we grew up with these cars and the legends that drove them

[@krh007]

The big falcon 351ci coupes take the gong as being the best of the bunch in terms of a muscle car - stance/grunt/shape/interior/wheels etc.

[@AnimalBoss429]

The falcon coupes were in the 70s XA, XB, and XC Coupes.

[@raviscott4853]

@@AnimalBoss429 👍

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

Yeah the Valiant Pacer did not use the old chrysler slant six, it used the 245 ci Hemi Six!

[@turbolife5912]

The first picture you show when discussing the HX LE Monaro is incorrect, the second picture is of the correct vehicle,it was only the end of the two door Body in Monaro production GMH went on to produce an HZ Monaro only available in four door as GMH were heavily involved with the Torana's for racing at Bathurst.

[@Elainerulesutube]

I miss the days when Australia had its own car making industry.

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

There is No Need to defend Aussie Cars.! If the Yanks were not "Afraid", they'd have nothing to say. Their words and comments betray them. They are unable to comprehend the "Australian Car Culture", from Muscle to Daily Drive. (Cleetus gets it. He came out here, and loved it.)

[@mothmagic1]

It should be remembered that Holden were or possibly still are part of the GM stable

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

There is no more Holden , and it was for all it's life bar a few years General Motors Holden.

[@geofftefl]

I only watched the 1st few minutes, there was no mention of the reality that all 3 "muscle cars" got their muscle from American owned companies using american engines, transmissions and basic designs.

[@Issueforth]

Can't watch the entire thing.

[@jhoward2328]

Me either

[@mrniccomable]

Terrible ai generated generic narration. Can't do it.

[@mauricestevenson5740]

Pronounced "Bathurst" at least THREE different ways. Was the commentary being read by a computer?

[@tazman8697]

Yes it is.

[@geoffhipwell2198]

Yeah, 'AI'. Hey I just posted about the same bad pronunciation too!!

[@garysouthwell5762]

Nice pics etc. and great taste of some of the Big three equivalent to the Big three in the States; ie. Monaro / Camaro, Falcon GT & Landau / Mustang & Thunderbird, Valiant Charger & Pacer / Dodge Charger, Dodge Challenger, Plymouth Barracuda

[@johnks6733]

As you included the Torana GTR-X the maybe you should have included the Holden Hurrican & the Leyland P76 Coupe

[@chrislj2890]

How could we be afraid of them when we didn't even know they existed? That said, it sure would have been fun to import some of those cool puppies just to mess with the Mustangs and Camaros, lol.

[@ChrisM-fz6xx]

First Australian Muscle Car was the 1967 Ford Falcon GT , it filled the top 10 places at Bathurst in 1967 . Torana GTR -X was a Prototype that Holden used as a promotion Vehicle at Car Shows , it was never intended to be a Production Vehicle . Valiant Pacer used a 245 cubic inch Hemi engine NOT a Slant Six . Charger 770 used a detuned 340 V8 with Automatic , it was a luxury Car NOT a Muscle Car . The fast Charger was called Charger R/T E49 . I hardly think Americans would be afraid of Australian muscle Cars , Not 1 Australian muscle Car had a fire breathing Big Block engine , a 427 Corvette would eat a Phase 3 for lunch .

[@raviscott4853]

Charger 770 with a detuned 340. Not all of them. I once owned a VH 770 Plum Crazy with white vinyl top that had a factory 265. Seriously, with Chrysler, you could pretty well ask for any engine in the range and the chances of getting the ok was pretty good. There were a few odd combos getting around.

[@kennethprocak5176]

Cars from the years where every owner had the engine hood up in the driveway or garage on weekends.

[@raviscott4853]

I still do 😀

[@LyntonSchwark]

The LE coupe was just that a limited edition coupe not badged MONARO.

[@raviscott4853]

With the dodgy foam honeycomb "sports rims"

[@brianlove8413]

@@raviscott4853 Borrowed from a Pontiac.

[@liamgross7217]

@@LyntonSchwark I nearly bought one but I couldn’t get past the red interior.

[@capnfrankly]

Yes, I owned a 350 Monaro one of the first HT models sold and it was far better than the 327 which I traded in for it. Missed out too many muscle cars in this show !!!! PS, Chased a few 351 Fords ( It was open slather on the highways in that era, not like todays pussyfooting governments raising money through speed limits )and they, I think had a touch more power, but the Holden had better handling and comfortable seats.But it was a close thing always....I was in the army and used to travel from Puckapunyal to Adleaide most every weekend I had leave....then to Brisbane and ditto for longer leaves, like Easter, Xmas, etc. Rarely drove under 160 KPH / 100MPH which used very few of the revs available.

[@davidedwinhoneywill2611]

We had Monaros in South Africa.Nice! replaced later with the Chev SS

[@metricstormtrooper]

That Charger was the least sporty "performance" model they ever released.

[@frankenstone804]

In America nobody would consider a 4 door car a sports car

[@enyanyea4226]

It seems like the "Australian muscle car landscape was changed forever" every two or three years.

[@randomrc601]

We know.. We are Australian

[@bengepp9314]

Not bad info , but very hard to listen to 🙉

[@mrbrisvegas2]

US manufacturers made up totally fake numbers. American muscle cars off the showroom floor were *always* (far) slower and much less powerful than claimed. In 1967 drag legend Don Arbutts drove his factory standard Mercedes 300SEL-6.3 to a series of drag tracks across the US. Despite his car weighing 1800Kg, having an automatic and 'only' 185KW (240 bhp) he beat *every* production muscle car he raced. The only time he was beaten was by a big block Corvette.

[@1snappytom]

you missed the xu1 and l54 torana,s

[@BasilPunton]

Stupid title! Americans were not afraid of them. The advantage for these cars was that they would go around corners and had good brakes. Once Ford got the go faster kit from the Mustang into the Falcon it killed off the Mustang in Australian racing. Until then, the Mustang was faster but could not corner.

[@PeterG-s5y]

hahaha...... had to laugh at " these cars was that they would go around corners and had good brakes." Certainly brought back some fond memories. First night of getting drivers license, all practised for in 4 cylinder power houses ie Datsun 120y, Corolla etc, I took dad's Valiant Ranger big block 265 out for s spin. It sure had some stick compared to the familiar 4 cylinder power plants, but braking and going around corners were surely tested. Decided to take it home before it got any more complicated. Always had a soft spot for the Charger/Weber 6 pack. Thanks to the poster, despite some contextual issues, great to see my teen memories flash up every now and then.

[@keerindyer9452]

Is this some ai narrator video? Sounds like someone got chat gpt to write a review and narrate it in a David Attenborough style without being exactly like David Attenborough.

[@jesseallan3886]

Great video, but you left out the best-looking Australian muscle car the HQ Monaro 2 door

[@JamesHawkeYouTube]

There's a lot of things American's have never heard of. ;p

[@alwynemcintyre2184]

The second charger with the maroon lower stripe is a different package called the white knight

[@brucestorey3400]

Some nice pics, but I'm only a few mins in, and already find it laughable that the narrative claims Australia's muscle cars made the American cars appear lame. No person with even a rudimentary knowledge of the US muscle cars of the 60s and 70s would make such a statement. The Monaros, Falcon GTs and Torana's were great (still are!), but no match for big block Corvettes, Charger 440 hemi's, 442 Oldsmobiles, Shelby Mustangs, and so many more.

[@theshed8802]

I don't like making negative comments, but there are far too many inaccuracies in this video, and the AI pronunciation is appalling. May I suggest that if you are going to make a video, at least research your subject matter properly, and proof your audio before publishing.

[@krh007]

"What is the point" of using AI tech to do the speaking?? unless you don't speak english yourself but you are in the US so assume you speak english. Lots of stuff ups in this video as mentioned by others. These 60's/70's cars were slapped together on a budget to make them affordable to the general public (Versus say a 70's/80's Mercedes V8 coupe) and they rusted badly and handled pretty poor unless custom modified by the owners. I can remember being a young passenger in a Valiant going fast on country back roads and it was super sketchy (scary) as drove like a boat on wheels - haha.

[@theshed8802]

@krh007 I'm in Australia and have driven most of the cars mentioned in the video, plus many of those mentioned in the comments. That's why I find the presentation so disappointing

[@codeblue9004]

My brother had a Holden Torana GTR.

[@kimn9802]

AI narration sucks.

[@Watsupyoutube]

I reckon the XT GT was a better looking car than the XY.

[@liamgross7217]

@@Watsupyoutube I call it the handsome GT - zicron green 👍

[@Rusty_Gold85]

No manufactured numbers, no background on Bathurst and why it was important , who designed them , colour choices etc

[@ashleygordon3467]

AI voice is hideous- ‘Barth-hurst race’!

[@janehanlon2802]

Still had live rear axle in the vt lol

[@harryberry474]

Americans were probably mostly afraid of how ugly they were, some aAmerican "muscle car"also fell into that category but Aussie cars were the worst.

[@tazman8697]

2:31 Funny looking slant 6...Or is it two side by side..🙄 It's a shame most of these cars either fell apart or rusted to bits. My mate back in the 80's had an E49 Charger.. That thing was dangerous, light in the ass end and would spin out in an instant.. Mind you, most of these cars were scary...

[@brombrom1522]

So much of this is ill-informed nonsense. Take with a big grain of salt.

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

Really, it was pretty much spot on .

[@Gjw303]

Hope he's planning on a fair bit more research if he wants to be the top muscle car channel.......

[@douglasbuckland8280]

So where did the 289, 327, etc...engines mentioned originate from? Were they home grown Aussie products? The engines and drive train, not body style, is what made a muscle car. The Aussies couldn't even manufacture their own aircraft in WW2, so how did they suddenly become an automotive engineering powerhouse?

[@mrbrisvegas2]

Indy cars have zero US engineering. They have a British chassis and transmission.. Even the 'Chevrolet' engine is manufactured by British company Ilmor. FYI Australia designed the fastest piston engine fighter ever built (CAC CA-15). It never went into serial production due to the arrival of jets and the end of WW2.

[@JohnNaylor-n5r]

Wow charger sportsman with a 340 that’s rare😂

[@BelindaPearson-f2e]

They were indeed scary days...poor brakes ...steering or lack of cross ply tyres...handled like a wet rag....but we learned to drive these rocket ships......i still own and love our 1970 zd fairlane....scary days for sure.....wouldn't trade them for anything.😎😎😎🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@raviscott4853]

Yep. The Charger E49's at Bathurst in 72 had major issues with brake fade at the end of Conrod. Could have been avoided if Chrysler Aust. didn't insist on using as much locally sourced components as possible and were a bit more flexible. The PBR stoppers weren't up to the task. Enjoy that ZD mate 👍

[@jamesmatheson5115]

Shame you didnt show the late model Falcons like the Ford FGX Falcon, in the V8 (335kw) and the XR6 6 cylinder(300kw), Ford pulled the plug on Australia and we no longer make Fords here.

[@LSturboguy]

your not Australian and it shows in Australia the land of muscle cars didn't end in 1976, the only 2 you got right was the 1968 hk monaro, and the 1971 Ford falcon gtho, here are the muscle cars in Australia 1. the Holden's 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, the 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst , 1970 LC Torana XU-1, 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 1976 SS Torana A9X, 1975 HJ/HX GTS Monaro, ill stop at 1977 2. Fords 1967 Falcon XR GT 289, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 1968 Falcon XW GT 351, 1970 XY GTHO 351, 1972 Falcon XA GT 351, 1974 Falcon XB GT, 1978 Falcon GT Cobra 351, Chrysler, 1967 Valiant VC VIP 273 V8, 1969 Valiant VF Pacer 225, 1970 Valiant Pacer E31/E34 245, 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340 /R/T E49 265 Track pack, 1971 Chrysler by Chrysler CH 360, 1973 Valiant Pacer VJ E37, 1973 Charger E49 265 E55 340, 1975 Valiant VK 360, 1975 Charger White Knight Special, every one of these models had lesser version which also fit into the Muscle car mantra so if your going to make videos about them do your homework and get it right, as I said muscle cars in Australia didn't end in 1977 as they built them for Holden and Ford right up to 2017 if an Aussie car guy seen your video they will call you out if its wrong to Australians the top 10 are 10, 1967 Falcon XT GT 302, 9. 1971 Valiant Charger VH RT E55 340, 8. 1972 HQ GTS Monaro 350, 7. 1972 LJ Torana XU-1, 6. 1970 HT /HG 350 GTS Monaro Bathurst, 5. 1974 LH Torana SLR5000, 4. 1976 SS Torana A9X Hatch, 3. 1968 Monaro GTS HK 327 Bathurst, 2. 1973 Charger E49 track pack, 1. 1970 Falcon XY GTHO 351 but Aussie love All their muscle cars from Holden Ford and Chrysler

[@miltonsmirk8176]

What about the Aussie Chrysler 360 V8 limo. I had one on as a Taxi in Wellington.

[@diannehogan7605]

The one thing wrong with Monaros from HQ onwards is that ugly-looking curved back window.

[@redreuben5260]

Hey Charger !

[@silviacity]

The AI voice has cocked this video right up.

[@Oissir]

it's not Barth urst , it Ba-thurst 😂

[@wadihogeil8867]

Yep you can tell if someone has been here or they use AI because they can't say Bathurst to save themselves!!!

[@Oissir]

@@wadihogeil8867 😄

[@annavariumful]

327?? 3 twenty 7 Anyway so great clips

[@TheHylas53]

The hx le coup was not officially a monaro

[@cchc13]

Missed to many Great Aussie muscle cars. you need to do better with your research.

[@paulthompson7280]

When me and my mate's were 17 back in 1982 we owned at one stage or another all of these cars we took them for granted sold them too cheep wish i never sold them now id be rich $$$$ good memories though no body Died we were all good Drivers no matter what speed or conditions ie winedy mountain Roades in ice and snow and never crashed, ps most people to day wouldn't be able to handle these cars 😮😂😅😂😅😂😅😊