The Australian social media limits for under-16s

[@Rainy679]

This is not just for kids it’s for everybody.

[@monsel97]

Why can't they stop phones in school, Since so many hours are spent there, plus the distraction it causes. What they do at home is the parents responsibility. It's not the job of Government.

[@jasonmullinder]

Many schools already have a no phone policy

[@socratesdancing]

With every post, I come to the conclusion that becoming an avid 'Clarionette' was the smartest thing I have done this year. Thank you.

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

I love the term 'Clarionette'. Marvellous!

[@augustsnowfall5189]

This is about digital ID surveillance.

[@BobOgden1]

Don't forget there are many legitimate uses for anonymity (dealing with DV, reporting from a war zone etc) that need to be catered for

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Yes, I probably should think more about that.

[@roxee57]

I used to be for removing anonymity. Then I realised many users live in countries ruled by authoritarians who like to harass, jail & kill dissenters, including dissenters online. I don’t like the idea of of requiring identification for everyone anymore, including in Australia where increasing political tribalism is resulting in social harms to people who don’t subscribe to current orthodoxies - see the trans rights vs women’s rights debate.

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Good point.

[@danaveye3977]

Is a person's name really germaine to the conversation?

[@charmingpea]

I was able to draft and submit a submission for the first time ever. This thing is a shambolic mess being rushed through and is an utter disgrace.

[@AndyJarman]

Bloody cheek give us 48hours and a couple of sides of an A4 sheet of paper. Surely this is a wholly inadequate consultatuon.

[@debugin1227]

It’s just stupid. Let the parents parent .

[@kathybenniadi6150]

Parents need to take responsibility for their children.. government doesn’t need to anyone co parent … this is not about children this is 1000% about digital ID and biometrics and another way to censor us the MAD bill was defeated this is worse and must be defeated too ..

[@SKW-12]

Thank you. Excellent points.

[@Burgo361]

There are so many potential problems with this bill, it shocks me that they would attempt rush this so much. There are problems with education, social needs (many kids grow up in isolated communities), privacy (something we are already dangerously lacking online) etc. The only thing I can agree with about this is that the internet is a dangerous place and children have not been well protected I've seen some things that I wish I hadn't, I don't see this actually solving that problem though it's oversimplifying a complex issue and could do more harm than good to these kids, this seems like a decision that should be made very carefully after a lot of thorough research not something that should be rushed through. Also personally I am very selective about where I verify my identity and there are many websites that I would never trust with my personal information, I spent too long studying cyber-security artificial intelligence and data analysis to just blindly trust these platforms.

[@paulinebell4873]

in all likelihood the bullying will revert to what it traditionally has been, live and in person. problem not solved

[@JWLearning]

I was hoping very much you would do a video on this topic. The moment it was introduced I couldn't see how this could possible hold up in the high court because it restricts a child's ability to speak freely. Any restrictions on speech is something for the parents to administer, not the government. But it doesn't just affect the child, If some type of id were to be required for an adult user and he or she refused to agree to those terms then it means that adult user is not being allowed to speak in the way he or she wishes, it's literally the government dictating who, how and where you can express your views. The question also begs whether there are alternatives to the bill that would actually better address the issues it's trying to solve, and I would argue there is. In particular parental controls on the devices which are seldom used. I'm pleased to hear your uncertainty over the validity of this law, this will inevitably be challenged in the High Court.

[@josephemmanuel76]

Anything they want to ‘push past’ like this is completely dodgy! & unacceptable! As you explain it’s got so many holes in it’s not funny

[@almc8445]

Your take on forced identity is TERRIBLE. There are plenty of examples where anonymity has huge consequences, such as when voicing dissent. “I don’t like it because someone might say mean things” vs a MASSIVE boost to the ability to criticize a government one might feel threatens them… I know what I choose. I do appreciate your raising of the data privacy concerns though, and you succinctly covered the major challenges on that front.

[@Kwistenbiebel100-ns5ko]

I wish there was a drive to reduce legislation instead of an endless stream of new invasive legislation. Less is more.

[@beauzo9965]

Yeah Nah, this bill is cooked but the uniparty want digital ID

[@peteregan3862]

The Constitutional Clarion is essentially a free university course in law by a top professor without having HECS debt or paying Uni fees. The Bill provisions will have some good effect in giving support to parents and schools doing policing - they can say to their kids that the rules apply to all kids, not just their own. The law will be another legal weapon for thousands to wage lawfare against social media businesses that are perceived to have money or are run/owned by people they don't like. The law is also another weapon to attack people whose command of English is poor - like the many that reelected Trump. Law has been used in this way forever. 48 years ago I was a witness in court when my migrant taxi driver was arrested by plain clothes police in inner-Sydney for what he said to them as they loited blocking a road. They opened the driver's door and took him. They then opened the rear door and told me to "piss-off" - I did not know who the guys in suits were, I thought they were going to kill the driver. Being pissed-off at losing my late night cab ride, I only pissed-off far enough to collect evidence unobserved. Neither the police nor I could identify each other. Most of my time in the witness box was taken up by the prosecutor with my understanding of the meaning of words - perhaps reasonable, I was studying engineering at USyd. At court, I discovered the taxi driver was charged was offensive language. The police did not appreciate being forcefully told to get out of the way. The solicitor later told me the magistrate found him not quilty. 'X' apparently has access to appropriate judges in Texas for using the power of the US to respond to international lawfare against it. 'X' polices many things on its platform. Its standard for speech is that set by the US Supreme Court - a standard that has stood the test of time, but is hated by many. Our e-safety commissioner, a Canadian whose views sound very California Democrat, has gone quiet. As Anne suggests, the law will be hard to apply to technically literate kids, or anyone learning, or knows, another language other than English, such as most people with a migrant background. They will be on internationally hosted platforms in Chinese, Hindi and dozens of other languages.

[@hypnopompicstate9910]

Rather disingenous to sight malicious intent as the only reason for wanting anonymity, in light of the current political climate in the West. So tragic to see political prisoners (of speech) in the Motherland. 😢😡

[@sandyfoot]

Going to be an awful lot of under 16 year olds who have no idea where to go for their weekend sport. 🤣 Let’s also remember that no parent is allowed to access their child’s Medicare records once they turn 14. So what’s going on here ? Are children responsible for themselves or not? Make up your mind govt!

[@SouthernAurora]

So, potentially, people under 16 are going to be barred from participating in things that are beneficial for their health & well-being if it's on social media.

[@robc5704]

Yes, as a government we MUST be seen to be doing SOMETHING, despite the fact those in Canberra have, for many years, not demonstrably indicated they are competent to draft anything more complex than a shopping list (any party).

[@fatherburning358]

Seriously. Just rushing it through before holidays is something we can begrudgingly accept from an LGA. But not from our federal government. No should be the vote on that alone.

[@7mmScout]

What about the privacy of all the adults who now have to provide identity information, what about the identity theft risk, and the security of data storage? This is stupid.

[@AndyJarman]

What documentation will people require to prove their age? An ID card perhaps?

[@wcbbsd]

The slow march through the institutions and everything else.

[@rodneyholland1867]

I might set my son up with a KZbin account just so he can be the first under 18 subscriber to your channel!

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

It seems that another viewer got there first - from the comments. It's still showing 0% however, so the demographic info provided by KZbin seems a bit dodgy. But do encourage him to join a very select group!

[@georgehoyn916]

If passed it should be repealed period freedom of thought and speach is at risk & shows teaching & education is at risk in view of this a bill of rights should be requested to be adopted and. Enacted

[@SpeedySystems]

Age of Criminality is 10 in most states. Seems incongruous.

[@flashknight7720]

Thank you! This is such a crucial topic. The impact this will have on privacy for ALL Australians is detrimental for human rights. Appreciate your perspective bringing attention to it.

[@copycat21c]

WTAF?! That’s the dumbest idea ever! Censorship writ large.

[@christophergame7977]

Any excuse, any trick, to control the people.

[@jennysmith3874]

So they are pushing the platforms to do their diry work with the digital I D

[@AlexBaz143]

I feel silly about this, but it never occurred to me that this bill would affect this channel! Strange how the brain works

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

It probably won't - people can still watch my videos on KZbin without an account. But it would prevent people from making comments and asking questions. When I speak at school constitutional conventions, I find that the students come up with terrific questions, so it's good to get them engaged.

[@CriticalLinker]

I take care never to be abusive or threatening in my online interactions, yet I still value my anonymity. I don't want to become a target for any crazy who may take exception to my opinions.

[@briananderson7285]

Like the government?

[@CriticalLinker]

@briananderson7285 😁😁😁 Exactly.

[@GazGuitarz]

Is there anything within our Constitution that actually benefits and empowers ordinary Australian Citizens and allows us to hold our out of control governments to account ...because I'm not seeing it?.

[@wyattfamily8997]

Every action by Governments (and the Opposition in this case), is designed to gather personal data and restrict freedoms wherever possible.

[@GlennBurbridge]

Another bad law, how much more do we have to put up with.

[@margaretkobier]

Thank you for this in depth explanation. I know this bill is wrong but couldn't pin point what I was sending. You have helped me understand

[@peterschief9778]

We need more people like you in Australia. And they need bigger platforms. Do you think in Representative Government at least your opinion is getting through to our Representatives since in our system they’re supposed to replace the need for us to pay close attention?

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Thanks. I think I have a small degree of influence in relation to constitutional matters, because I also do media interviews, and politicians tend to know who I am. I also often make submissions to parliamentary committees and give evidence to them. On the rare occasion, when I've tipped a bucket over a badly devised bill at a committee hearing, I've felt that I've convinced both sides and the bill has been dropped. But if there is a strong political interest in doing something, nothing I say or do will shift the dial. All I can do is spread awareness of what is going on, which is what I try to do on this channel. It doesn't have a huge audience, so there is minimal cut-through unless someone with influence sees on of my videos and uses it. But the audience is gradually growing, and one day it might of itself be a powerful tool. You never know.

[@anavictoriacarlos7297]

Thank you. Rest assured I have already recommended you KZbin channel to my 16 year old daughter. Thanks Professor for another video.

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Thanks. Much obliged.

[@PaxAlotin]

Last week - Misinformation~Disinformation This week -- Social Media Limits for those under 16s. Next week - Voting Age Reform - Under 18s to get Vote -- 😉🙂😊

[@JPCardington]

Week after that ‘re-education camp bill’. After all there are people in prison in UK who tweeted - quite correctly / that the Southport killing of little girls was religiously motivated. Jail.

[@KZgun4hire]

This also doesn't address how social media platforms that require a parent subscription in order for a child to participate (which is most gaming platforms) will police the unregistered children of those subscriptions. My children do not register with Sony PlayStation directly or indirectly. I the playing parent do that. How does Sony police the children on it's platform that are never registered to Sony?

[@Robert-xs2mv]

That says it all. If a highly educated person like yourself find it difficult to link the intention of the bill with the perceived harm, how does the average person mend to understand?

[@AuspolExplained]

Just a comment on the end: young people do watch political education videos. My analytics show that in the past 28 days my audience was comprised of 4.7% people aged 13-17. This equates to roughly 20,300 unique viewers according to KZbin analytics, though usually that number is lower.

[@magpielark]

There's probably more 13-17 year olds than that. Plenty of kids under 13 lie about their age making accounts, so quite a few (who did that a few years ago) would be listed 1-2 age brackets higher

[@nathanchandler1433]

​@@magpielarkexactly, why would you be honest about your age when it locks you out of content that you want to get to.

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Good to know, @AuspolExplained. I'm glad you are getting those numbers. Hopefully mine will eventually grow too!

[@johnguppy2120]

Won't someone please think about the children. This bill seems to me to be a snap decision to silence negative press with little thought to any unintended ramifications or even benefits of the bill.

[@Carl-md8pc]

Parents can just set up an account and let their children have access. Simples

[@copycat21c]

Or use a VPN. Or use a fake birth date. Or any other of a raft of different approaches. It is idiotic.

[@cheerytomato6196]

Why wouldn't the parents take responsibility for this, why would government need to step in on what is a households responsibility? I'll be showing my kids how VPN's work. Might lead to a whole generation learning how to bypass government restrictions, could be a great lesson for all. 😀 🙂 I know you are really busy but if you ever got the time, could you lets us know what a law would look like to stop politicians passing policy in favor of a company that they then quit government and join. Not that I know this is corruption but it doesnt look good. As always love your work. 🙂 Like what Punters Politics covered kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnaYoWt4gJp7mrc

[@PixieTinsel]

I’m not committing a crime by posting a comment under a different name. I just don’t want my business or family to suffer because I may have a different opinion OR decide to share it. Even Elon Musk making liking posts on twitter has allowed people to express their opinions without being shamed or canceled by the internet. I like your content and regardless of whether you are mainstream or controversial, my watching, liking or commenting shouldn’t mean I’m forever tarred with the brush of authority over it. If I was of a culture or religion or employment or government that was authoritarian then I’d be silenced because I would be easy to find. Can you not see that? Or is that the whole idea…?

[@mindi2050]

It's not that I don't support protecting our young people. But I honestly don't see how this proposed legislation is going to work in real life. Same with some of the other bills that have been proposed lately.

[@jasonmullinder]

Facebook and other platforms already have ID verification systems in place that get applied randomly when issues over if someone is who they claim to be are raised, it also a tactic used by scammers. Being in the "not having photo ID" class of citizens, I clearly understand how I will be disadvantaged, but would prefer some consistency on enforcement to waiting for AI or randos who disagree with me to mass report me and get my accounts frozen

[@jools-jt9nd]

Control, control, control that's all it's about!! I'm very sorry for anyone who has been the subject or effected by bullying etc but as a 64 yr old its always gone on and there was no internet in my day. Agree it's more prevalent and probably easier as it can be done anonymously and witnessed/viewed by more people today but I don't see this bill serving any useful purpose other than control.

[@nhobb]

As a software engineer, I find the mechanism of age verification the biggest worry here. Followed closely by the definition of "social media". You mention the cesspool of internet comments. I agree that it is a bad situation but as we can see on Facebook, attaching names and faces is not enough to clean up the comments. Not to mention we are a tiny drop in the bucket of internet traffic. On what counts as social media. Does my blog count as social media? What if I add a comments section? By my values the internet should not draw borders based on geography and at a technical level it is very hard to confidently say which country traffic is coming from. I strongly believe in the right to anonymous speech even if it's abhorrent. The Federalist Papers were published anonymously. Any requirement to verify age necessarily implies a restriction on anonymous speech. I do not see the benefit of this bill and I do not see the support for this bill from the public.

[@JimCullen]

As a fellow software engineer, you should know that it _is_ technically feasible for the government to implement this age restriction in a way that maintains privacy. There are good reasons to expect that it won't be done that way, but it _can_ be done, in theory. There's a little more detail in the comment I made elsewhere under this video, but in short: the mechanism is what's called a blinded signature. Essentially, the government or another trusted body could sign a blinded token after verifying the person's age, and then the person could hand that token, unblinded, to the site where they wish to prove age.

[@martincross.id10tgames]

@@JimCullen I don't think it's too unlikely to be done this way, it would give the government the ability to disable a persons (or even the whole countries) token(s) should they say something the government doesn't like.

[@JimCullen]

@martincross.id10tgames no it wouldn't. That's the point of blinded tokens. They would be completely unable to connect a person who got age-verified to their accounts.

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

Unalienable rights

[@Dxyze]

@@JimCullen Not only is this technically possible, it's precisely a feature of the Trust Exchange system that Bill Shorten announced a few months ago.

[@moviesynopsis001]

Does this mean that the young people of Australia will be unable to participate in this online creator economy that has made so many other countries youth filthy rich? Sounds like a massive disadvantage for the young Australians who might have become famous content creators who will now no longer have that option. I also find it really strange how much the government cares about Australian childrens well being online but do nothing to assist so many families who are severely struggling due to this hyper inflated economy with their housing or food. My neighbours have been pouring buckets of water over their kids for bathes because they are unable to fix their shower or pay for the hot water so they leave buckets of water in the sun to let them heat up during the day.

[@matthewcruz1709]

Why are they trying to get it done "by Christmas"?

[@llamarama111]

Should we put kids in a bubble until they are 18, then let them out into a world you can’t navigate, or do we let parents parent and let them teach their children how to live in the world?

[@scottc3166]

The problem is that social media has been shown to harm children's development. And some bloody irresponsible parent allow their 10 year olds to access it. Which brings themes into the classroom that 10 year olds should not be exposed to. I all for not coddling our children, but within reason. I dont want some irresponsible parents affecting the development of my kids. Let them ruin their own kids lives

[@llamarama111]

@ yes I understand that argument but I don’t think that we can legislate stupid out of every scenario. It comes at a cost.

[@lynndonharnell422]

This is digital id by stealth. Whats the bet that the digital id database gets hacked.

[@davidnowhere2637]

A Digital ID has already passed both houses on May 16 and comes into effect on December 1. No one seems to know this. Copy and past this into a search engine. The Digital ID Bill Parliament of Australia

[@ricshumack9134]

The separation of powers is being abused. More judicial power to politicians is how they like it, like ministerial discretion over gold mines.

[@copycat21c]

Thank you so much. I saw headlines about this earlier in the week and, as a parent, was genuinely concerned. As far as I knew, we weren’t moving towards becoming a police state. (Keep the Spud outta the Lodge!)

[@maccanorton]

I am very amused by the idea of young people watching the Clarion to protest government policy!

[@KenDavis761]

I have never come across a more steaming pile of legislative excrement. Australia really is a nanny state. And a really dumb one at that.

[@tschannelrph]

God Save The King… God Bless the UK! Greetings from the Queen among the 27 Million Happy Australians. Iya Pacifico-Huggins.

[@chrisnewman7281]

so much for Labor’s pledge reinstate some of the process rigour that had been missing for a few decades

[@capability-snob]

As an Aussie who makes websites and information systems, having to demand evidence of age just so you can use my site feels all sorts of wrong. I'd much rather normalise not handing out personally identifiable information, especially for minors.

[@fellowcitizen]

Perhaps personal data could be assigned a value -- for instance, to track a mouse around a page for 5min might warrant setting aside $100 for the reader, and keeping their DOB might provide them $15,000. If the data is useful then this may be worth it, and if not then they might finally stop vacuuming everything.

[@jasonmullinder]

@@fellowcitizen Personal data is assigned a value, that's how social media makes money. This video did a really bad job of understanding what social media is

[@michaelsecomb4115]

Can't understand why gambling platforms are not covered by the U16 ban, when gambling is such a major social problem. Glad to see KZbin excluded, as there are numerous worthy KZbin sites. I have used them for teaching English language to refugees. There are numerous international VPNs which Australians could connect to, and pretend to be based in another country, so the ban should be easily bypassed.

[@michaelsecomb4115]

How would the Australian government enforce this ban against platforms based outside Australia? They could just ignore it.

[@briananderson7285]

The government has an iron in the fire $$$$

[@amandamandamands]

@@michaelsecomb4115 Or they can do like Facebook has done when they are faced with things like Canada making it a requirement to only show local news. They addressed that by geo-blocking all news to Canada. I could easily see the various platforms deciding it is easier to geo-block us rather than work out way to verify age.

[@davidwilkie9551]

One might expect teaching the older folk what they have probably missed about the real significance and practices of Constitutional Democracy, always the current problem, to be at the top of the list of viewers who wil be affecting their children and children's children etc. Bit of a key communication Principle and absolutely necessary. Gret thanks to CC of course.

[@marilynwood6934]

I see this as the governments way of making big money from Facebook X etc because it will be impossible to police. Can I let my small grandkids play games like chess and solitaire on my iPad ?

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

The bill is only addressed at the platforms giving account to people under the age of 16s. If your grandkids don't need a personal account to play chess or solitaire on your iPad, then there's no problem.

[@bmyhrr]

I believe that the primary responsibility should be to prevent and swiftly remove content that is illegal in the "real world," rather than focusing solely on restricting access for users under 16 years old. Using social media has become an essential part of navigating today’s social and professional environments worldwide. Denying access to our youth places them at a disadvantage, for example, if an under-16 Australian were to relocate overseas, (from Australia) their online engagement experience would be behind that of their peers - other students, and/or job opportunities.

[@murrayjames3430]

I remember as a Queensland 16yo, being aware that when more than four of my school friends and I could be forced to disperse by the police, for conducting an illegal march. Our kids are precious, but education over legislation please

[@Julia78309]

I believe ways around these bills would already exist.. Critically harsh bullying already exists on messaging apps.. Also any discord irc snap chat.. It's up to you the parent to know if your child is being manipulated online... It happens to adults also.... You stop your kids from doing drugs and being abused by the local gangs? That's all online now.. Be a parent!! Excuse me..? Penalty units?.. Social credit score? Excuse me.. Pardon?...

[@tinfoilhomer909]

Public identity for commenting is fine, so long as people also have freedom of speech, specifically the freedom to denounce religion.

[@lazyfrogonalog]

This bill is more about helping newspapers, TV and radio to survive by putting obstacles in the way of the crowds of people giving up on their rubbish content and changing over to social media sites for news, education and entertainment. That's why old media are singing it's praises without a hint of scrutiny. The under 16 protection excuse is just a smoke screen in my opinion and I have an 11 year old.

[@musicalneptunian]

I absolutely agree. Meanwhile the old media run gambling ads in prime time sport. Precisely by sheer coincidence when young eyeballs are ripe for the picking.

[@KF-bj3ce]

Well said and so true.

[@Telle875]

Thankyou for this. KZbin suggested it and I think it’s a great suggestion. I agree with you. As someone who wants to potentially start a support service for people with rare and complex illness, I am aware that that means various very isolated kids wouldn’t have that support. I am fully trained to assist them but reality is, I have been very unwell since I was 11 years old. Now, a number of decades later, I remain extremely isolated. Now to be clear: I have said for a very long time that it’s wise of those of us who’ve learnt lessons with social media to teach them to younger generations for example…. I don’t have notifications on! Even for normal text messages, especially overnight it is only limited to those that are essential. I turn off my phone in appointments, I put my phone away on the times I am with another human being in the flesh (unless waiting for a known and important call, like yesterday waiting for the hospital to ring!). I do not think that this bill assists the protection of young people at all, and rather I’d love to see two things happen: 1. That parents are educated on options that they can utilise to assist their kids with social media. My experience in working with parents of young people isn’t that most don’t care, they just don’t know and need support to implement things. Then, I’d love to see reintroduced into the school curriculum (which I know is excessively full but often with things that maybe aren’t as helpful as once thought to be), education around civics, economics and the law. It’s basic stuff but hey, if they could at least name the components of government in their own state they have a better chance at engaging in the process later on. Economics because while not everyone is going to manage multi million dollar companies, they do need to manage their own budget and far too many cannot. When you’re lost in social media world, you’re not necessarily working and budgeting and thus losing that skill. And then most importantly….. teaching kids critical thinking. Understanding propaganda, thinking through questions, how do we debate a topic (without resorting to name calling!) and so forth. These are skills that would help every child and be more effective and manage social media better. I think that removing under 16’s from social media doesn’t help when the companies aren’t removing pornography and similar ACTUAL issues like that. The only point I somewhat disagree on is…. I do think anonymity is important where needed. Do I think it would prevent trolls? Yes I agree there. But for me, who IS isolated and does speak online and encourage people in DM’s etc (without being derogatory), I know my actual physical safety would be at risk if identified and not from other users per se. Yes this is appropriately reported but if I have to give my identity to all social media, it would mean I couldn’t start a needed support service, I couldn’t connect with people especially around the world (rare and complex does mean it’s not limited to Australia) and I would then have to choose between my life being at risk or not. Given my mother was a lecturer in internet security before retiring, she would agree that identification online isn’t safe. I don’t post pictures of me or my location. It’s up to others what they do, but that’s where wider education would be helpful than a ban on youth under 16. Just my opinion. Irrespective, so glad KZbin suggested your channel to me! I always enjoy hearing good and thoughtful ideas (something sorely lacking in much of society) and definitely look forward to more of your commentary. Thankyou.

[@paveldvorak4076]

The essence is that the author every post on "social media" is identified by a GovID. That also implies reads, interactions, reactions and other expressions of thoughts, views and opinions.

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

Hi Professor. PART V (s) 51. The parliament shall, subject to this constitution... I suppose a responsible government 1890 is different to responsible government 2024 🌏🇦🇺

[@samsam21amb]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1151">19:11</a> Hey! I'm a subscriber and am under 18, I'm 17 and my google account has also got the correct age.

[@craig147680]

😂 you tell her

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

That's great! It means my demographic info is wrong - or maybe they count as 0% anything less than 100, or some arbitrary point for rounding down. Anyway, I'm really pleased to know that I have at least one subscriber under 18. Feel free to encourage your friends to watch too.

[@Simon-lb2iu]

Kids are bullied at school. They are exposed to harmful words from other students. It’s not safe. I propose all children are home schooled until the age of 18. A ridiculous idea? It certainly is, but it’s rationale is not too different than the proposed bill. And the actual harm will be to the children.

[@Rainy679]

It sad if kids hobbies like music and art is at risk

[@paulkruger4156]

I assume the main aim of this law, is to have an excuse for them to take the next step in mandating the requirement of a digital ID!

[@braytongoodall2598]

One point at 11min 30s in: you can have ID verification with anonymous or pseudonymous posting. Given the US founding fathers themselves were writing pseudonymously, as did Kierkegaard, Voltaire, Lewis Carrol, George Orwell and many female writers, we can't really assume that ID verification would lead to visible identification of comments. Just that there'd be easier recourse against speech. If pseudonyms were made illegal, then in essence you're removing capacity for selective disclosure of identity. To me this is a major privacy concern (would usernames in a game be valid? would nicknames on facebook be?) and a free speech issue (due to chilling effects).

[@barbmurphy3112]

Anyone looked into the Murdoch news corp starting up a “kids news” platform🤔🤔🤔 nothing to see here

[@GuntherGlesti]

You make some really good points! Thank you

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

You're welcome.

[@kevin-e5h5t]

I can just see millions of us applying for an exemption, and a backlog of decades, waiting for a response. Will every school now have their own Web Master? New I.T. jobs will abound.

[@robmcd]

How do we hire you to take this bill to the high court?

[@Jack-r2v9b]

So you want to take the government to a court appointed by the government ?

[@robmcd]

@ oh please 🙄

[@AndyJarman]

"Fuelung conspiracy theories" - you makes people suspicious and resentful of unwarranted government intrusion into people's private lives?

[@aarondemiri486]

They asked this question in my constitutional exam Also as a current law student am loving this channel

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Hope I'm not pre-empting exam answers!

[@aarondemiri486]

@constitutionalclarion1901 Had a question based on a scenario a couple weeks before I watched this video. Would definitely of seen this before I went into Mt exam though ahaha.

[@Gareth-c1d]

Parents & so called experts wanted something done, now they have it.,=lazy parents.

[@axle.student]

On a more general note: Technology, computers and the internet is not a benign system like a child's toy. Misuse of these systems has real consequences like driving a car or a plane or owning a firearm. Used incorrectly real damage occurs. . Yet we hand children and even adults this capability with no training and no safety instruction. Click click on the screen trigger and hope it doesn't go bang. Would you give your children the keys to your high performance motor vehicle without training and a licence?

[@dferr18]

Woooo new Video! :D

[@TheToastieCakes]

Going to a Baby Shower today. Ill be sure to leave bub a note to subscribe (when they turn 16, of course).

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

Excellent. Well done.

[@TooLazy2Think]

The Government went through National Cabinet before introducing this bill which would imply that they wanted some sort of "consistentcy" across the states in this U16 ban. Therefore, it raises the question: is this U16 ban constitutionally a state matter? If it wasnt, then why bother getting the states on board with something that would otherwise be strictly a Federal Government responsibility? Could the states implement their own version of the ban or could the states revoke their consent for a federal approach and cause this bill in the Federal Parliament to fail?

[@shaun3913]

Regulation of online content falls within Commonwealth legislative power, but the states have power to do so as well (noting the Commonwealth law will prevail to the extent of any inconsistency). My understanding is that some of the states had already started looking to legislate on their own so it was thought that a nationally consistent approach would be preferable (although some states preferred different ages, I think Tasmania preferred 14). By all of this I mean that the Cth doesn’t require the agreement of the states, but it’s probably not a bad idea politically to reach consensus given the impacts it will have on areas of state responsibility (for example, school education).

[@briananderson7285]

The bill is a vehicle to force compulsory digital id and cashless control.

[@shanerichardson3212]

It's not really for under 16 its push for digital id and push for social credit.. exactly what Tex more controls

[@TomahawkUnleashed]

it would be amazing to see all the Australian social media content creators, like yourself, unite to sue this bill to hell. If enough content creators make posts about a go fund me to pay for the bills lawsuit it will definitely get thousands of dollars. and clearly you say there is some merit for taking it to court, and i feel if we dont try then we have already lost. like we've lost with cost of living, like we've lost with the climate.

[@ross4970]

Addicted to illicit drugs you get the red carpet. God forbid you just want to live your life.

[@johngross3506]

Bottom line: The bill is a means for the government to proclaim that it is doing something to solve a problem that it can’t very much solve in the first place. And extra points for sticking it to large international corporations.

[@theskeptic2798]

Instead of doing their job , it's the economy stupid . Not referring to you

[@briananderson7285]

The bill is a underhanded way to bring in compulsory digital id and cashless control.

[@wyattfamily8997]

And coerce the use of Digital I.D. if you wish to liase with anyone, Banks Businesses, Governments. Effectively becoming MANDATORY.

[@KZgun4hire]

Given that definition. That would include RoBlox. An online social media gaming platform specifically designed for juveniles where two or more users can share communications and materials while gaming with each other. From the Roblox site "Roblox is the ultimate virtual universe that lets you create, share experiences with friends, and be anything you can imagine." The significant percentage of the target audience for this platform would be persons under the age of 16. Was it the intention of this bill to target children's games?

[@KZgun4hire]

Apart from Web based gaming like Roblox it would also would imply dedicated gaming consoles like: Sony Playstation, Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Xbox. Which all provide social media interaction services built into the console without any game having to be installed. Merry Xmas Ausi kids.

[@KittyWhiplash959]

Thank you!

[@v.sandrone4268]

How does this impact 15 year old tourists visiting Australia? Since the legislation only deals with accounts must the accounts be deleted to comply? What about Australian users pretending to be overseas by using a VPN? They aren't breaking any law by using social media but the platform is still responsible.

[@nf8620]

The Social Media Platforms are themselves consumers of a telegraphic service, not providers of such. Fed Gov has no jurisdiction on them, just on Telstra, Optus and the like.

[@michaeltandora3780]

Sorry, that argument doesn’t work. You’re reading into the relevant head of power (section 51(v)) a limitation that isn’t there. It allows the Commonwealth Parliament to legislate “with respect to … Postal, telegraphic, telephonic, and other like services”. That covers the use of such services; which is why, for example, the Commonwealth Criminal Code includes offences about using “a carriage service” (ie, telecommunications) to do things.

[@nf8620]

@Darn!!

[@ichibot-app]

I'm stunned at your willingness to accept any restrictions on our freedoms.

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

The law has always restricted speech - eg laws that prohibit inciting violence, defamation, contempt of court, etc.

[@mrcool-m2n]

​@@constitutionalclarion1901 that is totally different thing

[@constitutionalclarion1901]

No - you criticised my willingness "to accept any restrictions on our freedoms". I simply pointed out that there are good reasons for there being some restrictions on our freedoms, and that the law has imposed restrictions for a long time. In any case, my video raised concerns about the proposed law - it was not supporting it.

[@mrcool-m2n]

@constitutionalclarion1901 you don't understand what my argument. Peace

[@ichibot-app]

@@constitutionalclarion1901 Right. But you said spoke like you agree with at least some restrictions on under 16s freedoms regarding social media.