The Autowin Archfiend Deck 2022 - Masterking Control

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

As much as I love Archfiend of Gilfer, I'm not about that secret rare price tag! Having said that we do need more secret rare Archfiend monsters. Which Archfiend deserves such as rarity bump!?

[@Straven93]

Pandemonium so we can finally get modern text on that card

[@khornebread4802]

Masterking Archfiend, for being the hidden Archfiend gem that nobody expected it to be!

[@funeralotusabk259]

Heiress for sure

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

"each time" IS THAT WHEN OR IF KONAMI

[@findout-YGO]

@@TheArchfiendGuy pls konami, give us problem solving card text (PSCT), not PTSD 💀

[@lukemacinnes5124]

It's nice to find someone still working with Archfiends, I've liked the archetype for a while but it's hard to find anything modern online

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I just really like their aesthetic and I get the impression that Archfiend variants differ so much that the deck hasn't been solved yet. We'll be experimenting forever!

[@YuGiOhTucson]

I've been searching for a way to play Archfiends and finally I can find one in your video. Thanks! Great video

[@LestatYGO]

Finally got a chance to sit down and watch this video. You articulated your thoughts and insights well. I'm glad your channel exists. "Archfiends" deserve more love, and support (come on, Konami!). Always great to see you upload. 😈🤘

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Thank you for the kind words! o7 Well this year was pretty good for Archfiends and next year we're getting Chaos Archfiend, which is impressively strong, but we have to use random tuners to get it. The best I can come up with for now is a small branded package with the Ecclesias since they're level 4 light tuners. Hope is kindled for what the future brings!

[@RageMagikarp]

A new Archfiend deck by the Emperor himself? AND IT FEATURES ECCENTRICK, MY FAVORITE CARD!? Time to master this one

[@rickhendriks5197]

Great build, nice explanation! I've been experimenting with a selfmill strategy with havnis (also lvl 3), the ishizu mill cards and zalamander catalyzer. Havnis can make a mudragon to protect your board and is a nice way to mill your big chunky fiends into the grave. Together with muckraker, you can pretty much summon back whatever fiend you've milled.

[@ShaDusK]

The card art for the tour guide cards are so beautiful

[@IzNebula]

Hey great video and I love your many techs and builds for Archfiends! I've been messing around with the Archfiend Labrynth and Rhino lockdown, the fact that Labrynth can stop Rhino from being destroyed by battle and Rhino protects all other fiends means they essentially have to use 2 different destruction effects before they can get over any of your big fiends. Labrynth having 2.8k defense is also really fantastic for locking your opponent down and slowing down the pace of the game while you build up your arsenal. Such a good combo. Also I am glad you made a build around Archfiend of Gilfer, he is one of my Archfiend cards. I actually had a deck with Power Tool Dragon that utilized him with Power Tool Dragons effect to save itself from destruction since Gilfer is considered an equip spell while attached. This worked really well with Power Tool Dragon's other effect to search for 3 Equip Spells and considering how powerful Falling Down and with Gilfer on the field he was still a target to be able to meet the requirements for Falling Down. The build unfortunately relied heavily on Lavalval Chain to get Gilfer the grave and to set up your combos. So when that got banned, the build died with it. Since then, I have never been able to recreate it. Maybe you can try making something cool with that now. I am not too knowledgeable on newer cards, so I haven't found many newer card combos with this build.

[@terredomini7703]

Check out fiend griefing. Sounds exactly like the thing you want : )

[@moni100191]

Amazing deck, thanks for the inspiration!

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

You're welcome!

[@randimoniumtime]

Liked the video, I'd like to see some updated master duel deck lists too!

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I would also like to see that 😅 I'll try to grind that game soon!

[@747jackt]

Thanks for the deck advice ! Do you plan on posting a couple of games in the near future

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yep! I'd like to put out more Master Duel stuff as well

[@scorpion4o]

As far as i know archfiend of gilferd and pandemonium synergy doesn't work like that . I believe its a bug in edo pro. Archfiend of gilferd works under pandemonium only if its destroyed as a monster card , not as an equipped card. I'm glad your back with the videos, looking forward to the next one gg :)

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Oh really? I thought maybe that was true as well but figured Edo knew better. I convinced myself that once it hit the GY, it was treated as a monster. You're probably right...

[@scorpion4o]

@@TheArchfiendGuy I'm not too sure, i was trying to build a combo for goat format few months ago and was searching for rulings about it and couldn't find much,. At Least not official statement or such from judges. Maybe some judge could clarify the issue

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I asked some judges earlier in the Edo discord and it's a bit inconclusive really In the end they said for the TCG it's whatever the judge says. Because I think in the OCG it does trigger. They also said it's hard to trust Pandemonium because it has no PSCT Weird!

[@shamknight2536]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Funny thing about that; Per PSCT it entirely depends on your judge's opinion. As of 2020 with the Battle City Speed Duel Box reprint of Gilfer, it still does not designate itself as a spell/trap when equipped, so it can be judged as a Monster Card in the S/T zone similar to Vaylantz World - Shinra Bansho (while Konig Wissen specifically turns monsters into Continuous Spells)

[@khornebread4802]

To help mitigate some of the LP costs, would the ghost sister & Spooky Dogwood work as an LP gain handtrap? Loving all the uses Masterking is bringing to Archfiends. I think I might have 2 or 3 Masterking Archfiends instead of just 1 though. I would also recommend having a Curse Necrofear on the side, in case of banish heavy opponents.

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

That's a pretty cool hand trap! You might be right there There's also Salamangreat Sanctuary which can work with Masterking surprisingly. You can run a small engine to search it using some live twin cards I don't recommend 3 Masterking but the extra deck is flexible. Curse Necrofear is also a fantastic card, I've just been running Imprisoned Queen these days for the extra Archfiend name! (Curse is way stronger though)

[@khornebread4802]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Could run both Curse and Imprisoned. Curse is mainly just to get some of our banished monsters back.

[@GMZoidburg]

Tested Trap Trick in this as well in case u cannot access Lilith and is a really good alternative route to get to your Give and Take and/or Glitch :)

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yeah you're right about that Perhaps Absolute King Back Jack too. Just depends on how much we want to focus on resolving Give and Take vs the rest of the strategy

[@frankunodostres473]

simul archfiends is a searchable "almost dimensional barrier"! could be worth a try

[@Panda-zc6vy]

Don't you need to pay life points to send the archdemon heiress to the graveyard?

[@JohnDoe-km9vx]

For the Berskek Dragon tech option is there a previous build on the channel I can look into it on how it looks?

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I don't think so, but I definitely have content around it that I need to edit. It's a cool boss monster that people don't really expect, but the tradeoff is that it's bricky

[@JohnDoe-km9vx]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Overall I'm happy to have found the channel looking forward for more on twitch and if u have replays those are great. It could be cool for them to get a Tuner or something to help them with the Synchro side of things as they can easily bring out the big boys out.

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I haven't streamed in ages truth be told! It just takes up a bit too much time really Maybe in the future though! I aim to get more replays out though

[@JohnDoe-km9vx]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Cool looking forward to them if you have them handy :D and time off course.

[@findout-YGO]

btw apparently gilfer in tcg does not trigger pandemonium if it is destroyed while equipped (because it's a spell and tcg checks it on field), but thankfully master duel and ygopro go by ocg rulings

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

So OCG recognises that Gilfer is a monster because it checks the GY instead of the field?

[@findout-YGO]

@@TheArchfiendGuy well the oficial ocg ruling is this, but ygopro and master duel (needs checking) checks graveyard for coding reasons?!? "The effect of "Pandemonium" cannot be activated when an "Archfiend" monster equipped to "Relinquished" is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by "Mystical Space Typhoon". (You can only activate the effect of "Pandemonium" if the "Archfiend" monster is destroyed while being treated as a monster.)[3]" Or it could be that gilfer equips itself but not as a spell (which would be weird but we have stuff like blast with chain, a trap that equips itself...)

[@nategrad9832]

Holy crap it’s finally here! Let’s check this out!

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

If only we could send gifs IT'S HAPPENING!!

[@nategrad9832]

I have a few comments but I want to first say heck yes bro I love these type of decks! Control archfiend?! I love it! Obviously the problem is it’s not super consistent against meta but that could be fixed with pot cards. Is there any monster engine within this deck that could be dropped? Like the commander archfiend? I’m trying to fit in gozen/falling down/lord of heavenly prison to immediately OTK after giving my opponent D/D/D. Leaning into the control aspect is my only thought. Like gozen, rivalry, solemn cards. Not sure though yet I want to try out first!

[@HavenSatyr]

hey my guy. love the deck tech, but, i noticed you got your math off on the overlay where you showed the deck. its 43 cards in the mainboard. i got a bit confused at first when i saw this. did you wind up making cuts to the list, and thats why the numbers where different than the counter above?

[@r3pr331]

wow I'm impressed, respect

[@bradley2984]

Have you been using zalamander catalizer and muckcracker from the underworld? Really awesome cards that no on is talking about. Atm i use red resonator, as he acts like tour guide to get baronness and when he sent to the gy use muchcracker to speical summ red to heal back lost hp and rely on dark spirits in to in defending.

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yeah! Zalamander is a very good card Muckraker is also a game changer You know, I never thought about reviving resonators with Muckraker... Time to experiment!

[@terredomini7703]

Not sure if this is still true in current, but as far as I know, Pandemonium should not activate when gilfer is destroyed and sent while an equip spell, since Pandemonium requires the destroyed card to be a monster on the field (and similar rulings can be found all over the internet)... Maybe that's just an edopro/ygopro bug? I mean, I really hope it's not, but... yeah

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yeah I'm pretty sure it is a bug unfortunately! Would have been awesome otherwise

[@MadameTengu]

I double-checked this but I keep ending up with 43 cards when I put this into YGO Omega for play testing. I am I doing something wrong? The monster count is at 23 and the spells/traps are at 20.

[@jamiewarren6041]

A but late to the party on this one after falling down with the sickness BUT Its really neat to see how youve been able to synch the deck around masterking so efficiently, one of the best things about this deck is honestly just how multi accessed so many builds can be, leading to different avenues to different setups, and this one is particularly neat with give and take setting up locks on our opponent So basically, youve done it again lol

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

I appreciate the double reference with falling down with the sickness 😅 To me, Masterking can breathe some fresh air into the deck, but right now using him consistently is a little clunky over other options, but it'll get there!

[@powow7913]

love this list so much, btw have you considered runnning acid golem of destruction since you're running give and take. Could maybe go into acid golem, link off for maybe I:P masquerena (for knightmare unicorn or underworld goddess on opponents turn) and give and take acid golem with 0 mats to their field. may help if the opponent is playing a fiend deck :)

[@jamiewarren6041]

you... realize you just said "you can -link off acid golem- to give it to your opponent so they cant special summon" right?

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yeah it'll need to be in the GY first, then activate Give and Take on their draw phase for the burn I suppose there's a route into it via Tour Guide that also searches Glitch to fulfil this, but then you're wasting Glitch on your own card. Risky!

[@powow7913]

@@jamiewarren6041 my bad, as a yugioh player I can't read

[@powow7913]

@@TheArchfiendGuy ah yeah, my bad I didn't read it properly, maybe could be a side deck option but a bit risky for main deck probably. funny though.

[@giantstrawman543]

Thoughts on Mazera DeVille? I don't know if it's remotely viable (especially in Tear format), but Masterking was another card that seemed strong but too difficult to make work, and you've greatly surprised me with what you've achieved.

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Mazera is such an awesome card but I've yet to crack him! Unfortunately even after summoning him, he can't get revived off of Empress etc, which makes him a little one and done. I've built a deck that just focuses on turboing him out, but it's very glass cannon and prone to bricking. But having said that, I now wonder whether it's worth looking at him again... The new Diabolica monster can recycle him back to the hand, and his effect isn't once per turn.. So if we can reliably summon Warrior of Zera then we could have a hand loop situation!

[@thecopperowl8386]

Ok hear me out. With the new chaos nephtys, we can search it with disciple of nephtys by destroying archfiend heiress in hand. It's also a spell caster so it can synergies with Nafariousness

[@Joao-wr7xg]

Now that MD has the cards for archfiend lock u can maybe do a ladder gameplay to diamond1

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Yeah that'd be cool! The only issue is that the ranks reset every month. That's a lot of time investment to grind over a small period of time. I'm not sure I have the time to play that many games!

[@alexsantiago5468]

U think I can make this deck on master duel?

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

You can! Just can't use cards like Archfiend Glitch, but you can replace this with Fiend Griefing

[@Kruk721]

The video, and the deck itself, is a piece of an art. Congratz and thank you for your content

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Two main issues with Masterking Control: 1) Overly reliant on Unending Nightmare 2) uses hard once per turn effects What we need are cards that we can send that can reuse their effects (a bit like Tour Bus). As it stands, we can Farfa the opponent but only once. So I'd argue it can go up against Altergeist but it wouldn't be a complete stomp. Archfiends REALLY need more support. You are right, most combos require 3 cards essentially, which sets them back quite a bit. This is mainly because Archfiends don't have a single in archetype starter card. As soon as we get a decent starter (or 2!), things will hopefully look up. And hopefully a starter that can't get Ash'd or use a normal summon, because then we're back to the Tour Guide problem. I'm sure Konami will give us a bunch of stuff in the future. It's a case of when not if (even if that when is a few years away)

[@Kruk721]

To bo honest I'm quite sad there was no room for unchained here. I feel like there is undiscovered potential in the Ariane + Chamber. Sadly Ariane sends trap to GY, instead of destroying, thus we end up with just 3 monsters, instead of 4, at first turn :/ However 3 is enough for Soul of Rage + we have 3 other cards in hand.

[@thecopperowl8386]

Why is it that whenever I give up on an Archfiend build, you make a better version of it. I've currently been testing Mischievous Fork for a Paly build

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Interesting! What's the thought process there? I've been testing Palabyrinth with Chaos Archfiend

[@thecopperowl8386]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Fork summons himself by sending a card from hand to GY, send rhino to mill heiress to search Como piece. It works well with both level 6 and 8 builds, but I'm leaning towards a 8 build

[@therisingsunygo]

Hey! You're the guy I dueled with Shaddoll Ishizu! How you been, bro?

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

Hey! I remember getting annihilated 😅 The Ishizu stuff has way too much GY manipulation for a GY deck to function haha I'm fine, hope you're keeping well too!

[@jianmalla9377]

Soul demolition 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 WOOOOOWWWW !!!

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

An old but gold card!

[@Luna-Starfrost]

This seems to be an older video.. Lovely Lady is out already! >:o Also lovely to see your shiney hair again. Also also, will there ever be a Adam-Discord server? uwu

[@Kruk721]

Yes, please.

[@TheArchfiendGuy]

You're right! 👀 The video had been in editing limbo for quite some time.... And, if you check the description there is an Archfiend discord server. It has very recently gone under my ownership because the original owner left. So although it was never intended to be my server, it kind of fell into my lap! I haven't reorganised it just yet, but you're welcome to join and hang out!

[@Luna-Starfrost]

@@TheArchfiendGuy Now that's something I can work with!! ':3

[@bhvnshunteredits]

You should join master duel lab are coming

[@cristhiannaranjos2968]

Plis Archfiend in common charity format

[@cristhiannaranjos2968]

Ando good video