The Beast: the fastest mousepad in the world is... confusing.

[@pinguefied]

some updated thoughts on the Beast: 1) my finger dragging observations are still mostly valid and can allow this pad to dip into more well rounded aim, there are two issues i've noticed as i've tried to improve on this thing. the first is that sweat on your fingers will make the experience of the finger dragging change, and become more similar to things like the skypad 3. you probably need to be in a fairly controlled environment. the second is how it's significantly harder to _only_ engage your fingers during flicks. with cloth you can lightly drag your fingers on the pad and retain a fairly normal aiming experience, but with glass, it makes a bigger impact on the fluidity of movements. it was harder to get the benefits of finger dragging as result of this. 2) despite the benefits of responsiveness making the speed feel more manageable, it's still insanely fast. I found I had to make a more conscious effort to not tense excessively on flicks or under pressure. if you have a stronger mental and better mouse control than me though, i still really like it for tracking games and general aim. i never quite got to the same level of confidence on wide/offscreen flicks as with slower pads though, which makes sense haha 3) the rate of skate wear is slightly faster than normal. it's not really a problem for me, but if you hate changing skates, you'll likely notice after a few weeks that the pad is giving a lot more feedback than it used to. i still think this pad is amazing at what it does, but it's not been quite as well rounded as i wanted. if you have really good smoothness, mouse control, tension management, and mostly play games/have a style that's more tracking focused makes this pad a 10/10. pushing flick speed just feels like i have to put in way more effort than i'd like to compared to slower pads though. def could be skill issue tho.

[@Truth13711]

Hi, which mouse pad between the beast and the wwallhack 4.0. requires the least force to move the mouse, and therefore produces the least arm fatigue and tension? in terms of feel, how many times faster would you say the beast is than the wallhack 4?

[@yyddum]

10/10 yap sesh

[@EverTechReviews]

I really like this pad its been fun to play on. Its the worse thing about Limited Releases is that now people can't get it.

[@danathfv]

you're my motivation to get better at using glasspads, thanks so much

[@RaphaelJamesF]

i love these yap sessions dude it's just so chilling

[@P4sta.]

this pad is really interesting and I love the work from tekkusai, one of the more interesting things companies have been experimenting with for me is thickness of the pad, It would be super interesting to see how thin they can make glass pads and the potential benefits of that

[@pinguefied]

agreed!! looks like a few other manufacturers are making them thinner too, curious to see how far they go haha

[@Lambo-ux3uh]

ooh excited to see what you have to say i picked one up myself well glad to hear you like it definitely was scared it would be too fast lol cant wait to play on it

[@Arlus]

This review might just finally push me to pre order it

[@DanLikely]

pretty cool, unfortunately my trackball is better

[@soup8748]

omg flip forge palette cameo best plastic bali ever created

[@pinguefied]

agreed!! i've been pretty much exclusively flipping it since i got to AU ^^ i'll do a review at some point prolly, though with the release of the frank-p i'm no longer 100% confident it's the best plastic bali like i was on the release of the palette.

[@Raveehh]

Now that i got used to the Artisan Type 99 it also made me question everything about fast pads because i play with much more confidence with such a nice control pad. Starting to understand why Viscose was so in love with the spyre kamek.

[@thedog5k]

6:00 Is this all real or just subjective, post hoc analysis of game performance?

[@pinguefied]

subjective analysis

[@kuroguca]

i was planning to sleep after a long day of work but pingu drop takes priority

[@sadahash8180]

as a speed prototype enjoyer its veeery very nice

[@Exyile]

love your recent videos :3

[@pinguefied]

ty!!

[@gmaxnoob]

Just curious man, do you have a Discord anymore? The invite link on your older videos are expired.

[@pinguefied]

nop!

[@hhhhkys]

Considering glass pads are quite expensive, do you think glass skates could be a good alternative to deliver a similar experience as you use glass pads?

[@pinguefied]

i think glass skates + plastic hardpad is decent, but glass skates just ruin your cloth pads sadly :(

[@liamjack7703]

what is the source for the chart data @2:22 ?

[@JakeG97]

Hey, been watching all your vids and really been enjoying them. Was curious your dpi and sens you play with in gunfire? I ordered a ftip mouse and stoked to start using it.

[@pinguefied]

7 @ 800 ^^

[@_Godless]

as a glasspad enjoyer my only issue is the fact that most of the good ones only come in the square shape. i am currently using the superglide deskmat because of this i think its the difference in elevation from my keyboard hand and my mouse hand not sure why but its super irritating to me. also the hsk pro has been insanely comfortable got used to it in like a week and a half thanks for the recc!

[@pinguefied]

hell ya, glad you like it!! and i agree, even though i like the surface of some other pads more the superglide xxl is maximum comfort still

[@kisukefps]

what arm sleeve do you use it looks cool and i’ve been looking for one

[@pinguefied]

it's some sleeve i was recommended by huddled years ago only available on amazon.jp, but for glass you can use basically whatever

[@Truth13711]

@ pinguefied Hi, which mouse pad between the beast and the wwallhack 4.0. requires the least force to move the mouse, and therefore produces the least fatigue and tension? in terms of feel, how many times faster would you say the beast is than the wallhack 4?

[@pinguefied]

@@Truth13711 not much faster in practice, hard to give an estimate. maybe like 10% faster! however i don't think it would necessarily create the least fatigue and tension. i think the faster a pad is, the more unintentional tension will be involved with your aim. it's definitely possible for the tension involved in things like fine control to be trained away, but for things like pushing flick speed it feels like a physical necessity

[@Truth13711]

@@pinguefied for example, when I have new jade or obsidian mouse skates on the wwallhack, it takes much less hand andd arm effort to move the mouse very often, so I have much better fluidity and react more quickly, more precise, as soon as the skates wear out and start to have more friction, all the things I mentioned above are much less good the hand arm get stiffer specifically during movement, haven't you noticed any difference specifically in terms of feeling the effort between the wallhack and the beast?

[@pinguefied]

@@Truth13711 they're both so fast that it's basically a non factor. sp4 is smoother, beast is slightly faster and has more pad feedback, but also wears skates a bit faster.

[@Truth13711]

@@pinguefied ok, on wwallhack i have noticed that both obsidian andd jade start to get muddddyer andd higher friction a fter just a feww hours, do you notice the same?

[@croncastle3028]

How the fuck is it even possible to be that accurate in a game like gunfire?

[@pinguefied]

haha tyvm

[@DukeJukem]

Wish I could get into glass pads, but I use a full desk cloth pad and have for years, so it's hard for me to justify down-sizing (and I doubt they'll ever make glass pads that big haha).

[@pinguefied]

superglide xxl 😈

[@eg8568]

What's the game at 3:10? As for the video, I've always been unsure about glass pads. I'm VT Master so not bad, but I feel like I'd lack the stopping power.

[@pinguefied]

battlefield v! ya it's definitely not for everyone, if you're happy with cloth then there's no real reason to switch

[@whoisAPT38]

what game is that game at 1:09

[@kipo84]

Gunfire reborn. Pingu talks about it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqLFfH-Gf5V-rpIsi=LCXvSAPtl2UphVqE

[@DisasterVae]

Gunfire Reborn

[@TheRedMarauder]

Now if only i can get mine. I have a Hana and Beast, and Musashi glass pad on order. 😂

[@TheDC-ks3tw]

Does switching to a reg mouse feel weird trying to switch back to?

[@pinguefied]

weird, not really, worse kinda haha i do feel like after using ftip mice for so long, my technique has evolved to utilize the ftip mobility and low weight, but it's not hard to use fullsize mice either

[@TheDC-ks3tw]

@ I have been using the hsk pro ace and I just switched to trying the op18k and Micro adjustments feel very weird. I have somehow been able to hit higher scores on a lot of different benchmarks but man does it feel weird in games. Thanks for your opinion on this.

[@dMGraymusic]

2:07 legs jumpscare :3

[@pinguefied]

😵‍💫

[@dMGraymusic]

@@pinguefied Hehe, I got sooooooo spooked~

[@RequiemOfSolo]

The skate suction thing isnt the pad, it is just a stage skates go through on glass pads. The same happens on my skypad 3. After about a week, most dots get a bit sticky, and then it goes away once it wears past that point again

[@pinguefied]

@@RequiemOfSolo hmm i've never had it happen before on any other glass pad with jades

[@sganicocchi5337]

Hey just a question for glass pads in general, how many of you guys actually oil/pledge your pads? i found that it helped a lot with consistency since the thin oil coat it came with felt really good to play on and the next day it was kinda sticky(ier?) feeling after cleaning with some isopropyl alcohol and oil smudges from my hand would cause fast spots on it.

[@miclwastaken]

it would seem that my aim is just immediately better when i put pledge on my mousepad (sp 3.0)

[@kami3449]

Pledge has citric acid in it, that will damage any coating on the pad you use and over time remove it completely. I'd much rather just use slower skates than to risk damaging the surface.

[@miclwastaken]

@@kami3449 if you bought a mousepad with a coating you may have irreparable braindamage (just my opinion) edit: PLEASE GOD explain to me what led you to the conclusion that pledge has citric acid in it, I don't understand

[@kami3449]

@miclwastaken All current glasspad offerings have a coating from skypads to glsswrks to padsmith and so forth, the only popular pad that doesnt have one is the glaze. I have 9 glasspads with 2 on the way. A simple google search will also tell you exactly whats in pledge, using isopropyl alcohol above 70% will also damage the coating over time. There is nothing about glasspads that I am not aware of as I've been using them for over a year and a half. Also, I've spoken with the people in charge of a few of them like glaze, wallhack, glsswrks, Padsmith, and pulsar. They are in their own discords and twitter all the time and will gladly inform you or anyone else of the glass making process and what kind of coatings they use and what not to do to damage their respective surfaces. The information is out there, if you chose to ignore it, then that's on you.

[@kami3449]

@miclwastaken Incase you weren't aware, the 003 as well as the 004 has a chemical coating which is different from every other glasspad company. Pledge will actually deteriorate that 003 faster than a glsswrks for example because their coating is heat bonded with the glass itself. In case you also weren't aware, there are currently no glasspads on the market besides the ikea glass and glaze that doesn't have some type of coating.

[@R3APER-350xx]

whats the name of the game your playing in the beginning?

[@pinguefied]

battlefield v

[@Lixro]

Hey, could you send me that spreadsheet with the hard pad speed data that was shown for a moment?

[@pinguefied]

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ix0RN4WDgRIn9uSUMy2smG_vWR3FTnZHgNpumChfHM0/edit?usp=drivesdk

[@Eqxu]

My skypad 3.0 feels like mud. I can use it for like 20 minutes before it starts slowing down and no matter how much i clean it, it's still slow. Do you think I should upgrade because of that? If so, to which one, the skypad 4.0 or the beast?

[@pinguefied]

have you tried using a few different skates with it? the skypad 3 shouldn't feel like mud haha

[@Eqxu]

@pinguefied Yeah I've tried corepads, tiger ice dots and normal size, and obsidian dots. It feels muddy with all of them lol. I just got some new ones in the mail so I'll have to try these and see.

[@pinguefied]

@@Eqxu okay at that point yea either u have a bad copy or any friction at all is being perceived as muddiness, def worth looking into something else then personally i'd lean glsswrks since i don't fully understand how it's possible to become muddy in 20 minutes aside from dust buildup, and glsswrks is a bit better with dust resistance. you'd have to find a seller though ^^;

[@Eqxu]

@pinguefied Yea it really sucks. I've emailed skypad before and they couldn't help and I remember testing it vs my razer Strider and the Strider felt just as fast, if not faster. Also, I was thinking what if it's my sweat? I wipe the pad down about 1-5 times per match and sometimes it helps and sometimes it still feels muddy. I use an arm sleeve but I was thinking maybe since arm sleeves are pretty thin they don't really help with my sweat? My hands are pretty sweaty as well. I can switch to using my hoodie sleeve but idk if that's recommended.

[@pinguefied]

@@Eqxu i think i'm a pretty sweaty gamer and i have never got it *that* bad. but maybe if you are in a much hotter environment? i suppose you could try a more traditional sports sleeve or just get a fan to blast at your arm

[@Obserrve]

any mouse feet recs? not really liking the red obsidian dots

[@pinguefied]

me neither haha, jades have been my go-tos on glass for a good while now. just make sure u buy a good amount of them since they don't last a super long time

[@darkwolts]

@@pinguefied How long do you usually use them before replacing your dots?

[@pinguefied]

@@darkwolts couple weeks usually

[@brite7065]

this pad came out at such an inconvenient time for me but i really wanted to pick it up, but it came out like right before hana and right after arbiter x reject collab so I was broke 😭😭. sad to know I'm missing out lol

[@kyhdbbdbd3035]

what gane is that in the background

[@pinguefied]

gunfire reborn

[@JMhamp]

I have a hsk pro and skypad, I replaced my skates to xray jades and now my mouse is wobbling, does anyone have any ideas for how I can fix the stability?

[@kami3449]

If your mouse is still wobbling after the jades are broken in then either the base of your mouse is uneven, you pad is uneven, or your desk is uneven.

[@elo4z]

Are you playing battlefield V or 2042 in the fps gameplay? Thank you!

[@pinguefied]

@@elo4z battlefield v!

[@elo4z]

@@pinguefied Thank you!

[@blinddoglures]

Will this be available again at some point

[@pinguefied]

it seems like this has been a pretty popular pad and i suspect he'll look into a re-release ^^

[@oliverdavidacaster5258]

As someone who’s just started voltaic and am bronze in clicking, the skypad 4.0 felt awful for stopping, they should include a handbrake for that pad

[@kami3449]

Its made that way for a reason, every glass pad is different, that pad is their niche. If you want more stopping power you can get very slow skates

[@vRyzø]

Is it really fast? I want to get it

[@pinguefied]

@@vRyzø the beast is a more well rounded pure speed option imo, but yes the skypad 4 is very fast, especially with a good skate pairing

[@LeonidEr]

@@pinguefied where its easier to stop? beast or skypad 4? p.s. ok i found answer in ur banger video lol. Best review ever, tyvm man. Validated my preorder expectations :D

[@G0ated0]

@@pinguefied What do you think the best skates for the skypad is? Im buying it next week?

[@sk6te]

Any recommendations for a first glass pad

[@pinguefied]

i love jades!! i have limited impressions with these two skates, but the ultraglide rennsport II and obsidian pro airs both were pretty solid and a touch slower

[@daemonkisure2952]

i have cerapad kin, sp4 , do u recommend me buy this one or keep the sp4?

[@pinguefied]

@@daemonkisure2952 up to you! if you're happy with the sp4 then keep going, but i haven't liked a new pad this much in a long time haha

[@daemonkisure2952]

@@pinguefied ty

[@sibbeplaystv3636]

hello pingu what do you think is the best mouse grip for cs2

[@pinguefied]

completely preference, though ftip's instability is pretty big downside in cs2

[@meokga]

do you have a ergonomic setup video?

[@pinguefied]

i don't

[@Chekrs]

What sensitivity do you use on gunfire? Been trying to find useable ones to mess around with.

[@pinguefied]

around 33cm

[@SnoOwTrX_]

Hey pingu, I recently re-watched your video about mouse accel and I wonder. Do you still use mouse acceleration? If yes, what configs do you currently use? If not, why did you stop?

[@pinguefied]

i stopped using mouse accel at some point in late 2022 or early 2023. imo, at some point in your mouse control journey it becomes a limiter for how much you're allowed to improve your mechanics. essentially you are creating a band-aid fix for flick speed (esp arm based flicks) and precision, which prevents you from practicing it very effectively. since no longer using it i've become much more consistent with both of these skills! you can definitely still be good with it and in some games it will barely be a limiter at all. viscose has a good vid on it that reflects my experience pretty much 1:1! i tried basically every curve u could think of and i don't regret using it at all; it was rly fun, made my performance better in the short term, allowed me to start learning to control higher sens, and made me more motivated to play and practice. it's up to you if/when you feel like it's limiting!

[@peterpanda7475]

so what pad do you recommend that's actually available :o I'm currently playing on my desk without a mousepad cause of how nice it feels to make small finger movements

[@pinguefied]

if it works it works!! i have like 40 hours in diabotical rogue all of which were on my desk with ceramic skates haha i tend to recommend the pulsar superglide as a safe and relatively inexpensive starter glasspad, but if you can find good deals on stuff like the padsmith empress or skypad then they should all give you a decent idea of what glass is like

[@peterpanda7475]

​​​​​@@pinguefied I could actually get a Skypad 3 for 80, the Harut and Wallhack sp004 for 120 and Empress for 100 (but the Empress will only arrive late December) or second hand and sooner :o What would you go for? is Empress worth the wait? otherwise I'd love to pick between Harut or Skypad ^-^

[@pinguefied]

@@peterpanda7475 i've heard good things about the empress but i have no personal experience sadly :< harut and sp4 are objectively higher quality pads than the sp3 but they both offer slightly more niche experiences. the harut being a greater amount of static friction, and the sp4 being just stupid fast. the qol of the sp3 is kinda shit so it's hard to recommend wholeheartedly, but it is the most standard glass experience of the 3. - if you think you really want to see how fast mousepads can be and what they do to your aim, try sp4! - if you want a very standard experience to dip your toes in and get a feel for the niche, skypad 3. - if you only want to buy one glass pad ever, maybe the harut/empress? both high quality, very smooth pads you will probably be happy with if you have never used anything else.

[@dosakun]

I came here to watch pingu play gunfire reborn

[@GNSpeedy]

Would you say a glass pad is better for a fingertip player ?

[@pinguefied]

definitely still preference, but yeah there's an argument for low initial friction when you have to use your fingers sm

[@GNSpeedy]

@ Alr what glass pad do you think is good for a first timer ?

[@pinguefied]

@@GNSpeedy pulsar superglide v1 (v2 could be good i just haven't tried) has been my go-to recommendation bc it's very standard within the realm of glass and not crazy expensive. if it's your first one they'll all feel relatively similar though, so anything u can find a good deal on and is reputable would likely be fine ^^

[@GNSpeedy]

@@pinguefied I was told to go for the beast ?

[@pinguefied]

@@GNSpeedy very very fast pad but it's definitely good! if you don't know if you like speed it might be a bit much, but if it's in stock where you're at then it could be worth it ^^

[@kynave]

ah i’m sad i skipped it now

[@rhizomaticdonut]

Hey pingu, great review, what skates are you running on it?

[@pinguefied]

jades!

[@rhizomaticdonut]

@@pinguefied Thanks man. I just discovered your channel. Love your chill aesthetic so much. Subscribed immediately.

[@pinguefied]

@@rhizomaticdonut tysm!!

[@wolfyakuza]

pingu if ur gonna main the beast, let me borrow an old glasspad 👀

[@pinguefied]

this is viscose's beast haha

[@wolfyakuza]

⁠​⁠​⁠with how i hear u talking about the beast, it sounds like you should “borrow” it from her lol

[@LukasHorz-ts4bw]

whats the game youre playing at the beginning after battlefield?

[@pinguefied]

gunfire reborn

[@sp00der23]

am I crazy or did viscose have a mousepad video that doesn't exist anymore?

[@pinguefied]

wdym?

[@sp00der23]

@pinguefied like there was a mousepad roundup video that I can't find anymore

[@ike7708]

sounds like a beast of a pad but no money sadge 😔

[@casull2041]

have you tried playing around with resin pads?

[@pinguefied]

not yet, i'd like to but i also hear they r all quite small

[@desdinovanotfake]

@@pinguefied I have the NPettech SpeedM. It's massive, approx $35 amazon, and it has a really neat sticky-but-not-sticky base. I'm sure there's a name for the material used, but I don't know it. The problem I have with this one is that the material it's made of does not play well with any mice that have a low lift off distance, so think basically every Logitech mouse since you can't change the liftoff. I like it otherwise, I just can't use some of my mice on it.

[@pinguefied]

@desdinovanotfake that's the resin pad i'm familiar with, i didn't know it's massive :o maybe I'll take a look

[@desdinovanotfake]

@@pinguefied yeah, 20x20 inches, which is larger than all of my other pads. i guess its not as long as some xxl pads, but imo thats not necessary at all

[@desdinovanotfake]

@@pinguefied yknow on deeper analysis, i think i really dont like this pad, actually. I've been wondering why it feels so bad to play on some times, and I think the static friction is like... really high? and it makes tracking and micro corrections feel super jerky. like, my cloth pads feel faster than this thing 🥲

[@y_chefy9821]

I thought the wallhack was slow

[@Inoscentnoaim]

what is the game that he was playing while talking?

[@x_osc_x7457]

Gunfire reborn

[@antoniopatterson961]

Whats your cm/360?

[@pinguefied]

i think around 33

[@illystayflyj]

What’s your favorite glass pad?

[@pinguefied]

it's either this or the superglide xxl

[@torrak5338]

what game is this

[@pinguefied]

gunfire reborn and battlefield v

[@kami3449]

The beast has a coating, there actually isnt a glasspad on the market that doesnt have a coating except for the glaze

[@JtwasLuck]

Or ikea glass

[@kami3449]

@JtwasLuck oh ya and that one, the best glasspad that wasnt meant to be a glasspad lol

[@JtwasLuck]

@@kami3449 fr lol its still insane to me that a serving tray can make for such an amazing glass pad!

[@kami3449]

@@JtwasLuck i never got to try it myself, they were all sold out when i found out about them

[@JtwasLuck]

@@kami3449 same here, but I ended up getting one recently for 55 shipped. The surface really is special!

[@user-gq3eq5bf9t]

WHAT SLEEVE U USING?

[@pinguefied]

some random sleeve huddled recommended me a couple years back: www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B07T1BH1PM?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title on glass it doesn't rly matter though

[@Golden2Talon]

as someone who has not a lot of money, and chrismas is not far away, i need to decide soon for the best glass mousepad. help :D

[@pinguefied]

i think the pulsar superglide is a pretty safe pick as far as glass goes

[@ouiouiBaguetteBaguette]

hihi pingu love u

[@khivxs]

am i slow or is this june?

[@pinguefied]

hello

[@teyux]

what game is this?

[@pinguefied]

gunfire reborn

[@Panlo.Breadlo]

Sir emogirl45, why not post in main channel also very informative👍

[@pinguefied]

main channel vids take much longer ;c

[@movementbuff]

Based

[@bubbuchuba5944]

yo bruh why am i finding pinguefy alt acc 😭🙏🙏🙏

[@pinguefied]

?

[@bubbuchuba5944]

@ lmao bruh you haven’t uploaded on you other account for the longest time i came back to you channel for old times sake but i was hyped to see a newer video! the midwest emo gaming montage was a great touch btw.

[@pinguefied]

@@bubbuchuba5944 thank u!

[@moeyak4564]

what is this game?

[@pinguefied]

@@moeyak4564 gunfire reborn or battlefield v

[@MushKaBobby]

Cooooool

[@Senroux]

[@user-gq3eq5bf9t]

THEY ARE ALL COPYCATS SKYPAD IS THE OG

[@supaweeb4076]

nah there are glasspad b4 skypad

[@pinguefied]

bro wasn't around for the glipad...

[@supaweeb4076]

@@pinguefied still remember the long ass wait time

[@zohzie]

Okay now polish it

[@torrak5338]

thx🫡

[@pingu4755]

Hey pingu, I found ur reviews a few months ago when you started doing them again. At first I was a bit taken aback because the format of yours are different compared to basically all other peripheral reviewers. Now that I have watched all of your newer reviews, I really do enjoy them more than any others'! Please don't stop making them, I share many of your opinions and use many similar pads/mice as you! PS: Are you gonna review the HTX mini?

[@pinguefied]

this is really sweet, thank u pingu! i have been getting a bit discouraged so i appreciate this haha most likely yes! so far I'm very impressed