The Beatles 2009 Stereo USB - More Than Just an Expensive Paperweight?

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@dasreicht
@dasreicht 2 жыл бұрын
A USB like this would make the most sense today if it had a crazy amount of data. Various releases, with official mixes from the 60s to present. Maybe include a "songs they gave away" type album. A completist's paradise.
@tyjuarez
@tyjuarez 2 ай бұрын
You can fit the Stereo AND Mono box sets on 8GB in FLAC. Go with a high quality MP3 and a 16GB USB, and you can fit both sets PLUS all the Super Deluxe boxes and Compilations that have been released thus far.
@compactedorb3135
@compactedorb3135 2 жыл бұрын
When this first came out, a good friend of mine bought it and I popped it into my computer and made my own USB stick by just cloning the drive. I made a bunch of these for people and they loved it. They worked just the same and I never charged any money for them.
@thisisaloadofbarnacles921
@thisisaloadofbarnacles921 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is coming for you!
@compactedorb3135
@compactedorb3135 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares, let them. Not my fault their product was inferior to technology created 10 years prior.
@prebenjaeger
@prebenjaeger 2 жыл бұрын
Rad!
@Bean15_
@Bean15_ 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@robertsteel3563
@robertsteel3563 2 жыл бұрын
Dang it! I would've wanted a copy from you! 😅
@essexboy5520
@essexboy5520 2 жыл бұрын
The best presenter of Beatles related music on KZbin or anywhere else for that matter. Top work Andrew.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@d.m.1706
@d.m.1706 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, he knows his "stuff". Been looking forward to this USB video since Andrew mentioned it a few weeks ago in another of his videos.
@fruitfly0
@fruitfly0 2 жыл бұрын
@@mehdhihassan I actually prefer I'm Down over, Help!. And I like playing I'm Down, right after Ticket To Ride.
@stephenalanmoore7278
@stephenalanmoore7278 Жыл бұрын
@@fruitfly0 I agree completely. 'Help' and 'I'm Down' SHOULD have been promoted as a Double A-Side release at the time, the same could be said for 'Paperback Writer' and 'Rain', as well as 'Hey Jude' and 'Revolution'. In my opinion, those B-Side tracks were every bit as strong as the A-Side ones.
@sirpapps
@sirpapps Жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram meanwhile the revolver remixes getting made at the time of filming ready to derail this whole thing
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest, but most gimmicky releases they ever did.
@FleagleSangria
@FleagleSangria 2 жыл бұрын
"What we really need is an all analogue stereo set that isnt limited" Amen Andrew! Always suspected that the reason many were praising the sound of the flac apple usb was simply that it was louder. Suspicion confirmed. Thanks for the video. Very informative!
@rattyeely
@rattyeely 2 жыл бұрын
This is so 2009 it's making me nostalgic. Shame modern hardware struggles to play it, it really seems like a neat thing to have, even if the audio quality isn't anything special.
@jeromeglick
@jeromeglick Жыл бұрын
To be precise, modern hardware can play the FLAC files just fine, all you have to do is open them in a media player that supports FLAC such as VLC or Windows Media Player (with a FLAC codec). As Andrew explains, it's the custom Flash-based menu program with cover art, booklet displays, and low-def mini-documentaries that the modern hardware is incompatible with. So yeah, I guess that takes away half the functionality of it.
@Jinkiezilla
@Jinkiezilla 2 жыл бұрын
The use of disk could either be a typo or what I think was a clever choice. As a disc is a compact written data flat circular item while a disk is a form of storing memory in general. Floppy disks are spelled this way as well as other memory drives.
@init4fun
@init4fun 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who'd invested a good portion of their life at a keyboard (30 years in IT, computer information systems, primarily UNIX, Mac), it won't surprise many that I prefer digital media. It is a much more practical medium, in terms of search, accessibility and programming playback than vinyl. While it isn't the height of audiophile geekdom - I've two daughters in college to help support - I've a Denon 150 watt networked AVR and ELAC UniFi 2.0 mounted bookies w/a sub through which I use AirPlay (capped at 16-bit) from an iPad Air 2 accessing a MacBook Pro Library media server and AIFF (uncompressed) versions of this USB set, viewed thru an Apple HD TV & Samsung TV. So the sound is fairly decent for a modest, first gen Beatles music fan. I too am a purist, in terms of sound quality, and struggle mightily with the EQ & reverb used in the 2009 stereo remastered box set. And, sure, what was done to the opening of 'A Hard Day's Night' album IS unconscionable. And I agree that 'smiley face EQ' manipulation ruined the MFSL reissues. My question to you, Andrew, is, all things being equal, if Apple Corp were to reproduce unmolested analogue masters of their albums and singles in either digital FLAC or WAV or AIFF formats AND vinyl, which would you choose and why? If vinyl, is it strictly for sentimental reasons, or do you just appreciate having something tangible over digital files stored and retrieved from devices?
@mjanovec
@mjanovec 2 жыл бұрын
I’m puzzled how Apple could lose money on the mono box sets, especially since they sold them all… and there is still demand for more. Reissue the set again and they would sell. Or just press standalone copies, if the boxes and books are expensive to manufacture.
@flyingkillerrobots877
@flyingkillerrobots877 2 жыл бұрын
^^ This ... a thousand times this. ^^
@peacearchwa5103
@peacearchwa5103 2 жыл бұрын
Concur! Please, please me.... reissue The Beatles In Mono!
@applescruff1969
@applescruff1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@peacearchwa5103 Hopefully, this time, we won't have to buy the whole set. Lol.
@sethallison5682
@sethallison5682 2 жыл бұрын
They could even release them in the same cheap paper sleeves as the stereo releases- if they are worried about profit margins. This would also keep collectors of the first wave of releases happy with their special tip-on sleeves.
@DarrellS54
@DarrellS54 Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@davidlorryman998
@davidlorryman998 2 жыл бұрын
I've listened to the 24-bit versions from the key again. The presence in the vocals cannot be touched by the vinyl versions. The band feel of the recordings for me is enhanced by the hi-res versions. Again, the sampling rates are only 44.1 kHz but the overall sound dosen't suffer for it. These files should be issued at a more pocket friendly price to entice us all to venture into hi-res downloads of the catalogue. I have only streamed the 24-bit/96 kHz Pepper/Beatles/Abbey Road/Let It Be but I like what I've heard. Have the vinyl versions but look into Hi-res my friends. But just enjoy it the way you enjoy it. It's the music that matters most. Cheers Andrew. Your videos are amazing and so informative. Thank you.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, David.
@user-is4jf8yr4z
@user-is4jf8yr4z 2 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me how much work and effort you put in these videos. It's well worth it and very much appreciated!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, J!
@ryates16
@ryates16 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch the Parlogram Beatles videos! Thank you Andrew!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@RossCampoli
@RossCampoli 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I remember this thing! So nice to see what it was actually like!
@trublu71
@trublu71 2 жыл бұрын
I was tempted to buy this back in 2009 . I’m glad I stuck with the CD box set . Both stereo and mono. I always enjoy your videos Andrew . Thanks again
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@coolasmud
@coolasmud 2 жыл бұрын
I love this little USB. All the albums, covers and more in one place.
@MagicalMysteryMike
@MagicalMysteryMike 2 жыл бұрын
This is the finest presentation of this item on all of KZbin… I tried to present this a while back, but my video pails in comparison. Fantastic work; really top notch!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike. Your video was an inspiration.
@MagicalMysteryMike
@MagicalMysteryMike 2 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram kind of you to say. Keep up the fine work!
@stevedundee866
@stevedundee866 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, circa 2001 there was a USB going around with all the albums, cover art work and an easy to navigate menu. It was handy to be able to listen whilst at work and was quite popular. Perhaps this official release was to counter such unofficial items. At any rate, I don't think the official USB appeals to many demographics at all and can't imagine that sales were worth it. Especially as Napster and the like were prevalent and made downloading music free ..albeit illegal. Thanks for yet another great video 📹 👍
@socalltd
@socalltd 2 жыл бұрын
Around that time, I came across a MP3 disc that had all the albums with the cover art and a few more things in it. Anyone else seen that
@NLKINK
@NLKINK 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've had a copy of that too but if memory serves these were taken from vinyl albums and the sound quality was OK at it's best. There was also a disc with all of Pink Floyd's albums.
@bertroost1675
@bertroost1675 2 жыл бұрын
@@socalltd When I lived in China a friend of mine had a CD on her desk that had all the Beatles albums on the cover. I asked her what was this? She put it in and all the Beatles albums were on one disk. I thought to myself, "what is this magic?" I swear this was before 2000. She had really big boobs too. That's why I still remember this event😂
@socalltd
@socalltd 2 жыл бұрын
@@bertroost1675 Interesting. . I have no idea where or who, but it was seen and shown by many here in the Los Angele are about 2003. I copied it over to a laptop. It has UK mono and US versions of the early LPs and inc Let it be naked.
@Turrican
@Turrican 2 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of her !
@phrtao
@phrtao 2 жыл бұрын
Some Beatles albums are available in 24bit 96khz such as the recent Let It Be deluxe anniversary release. The blu-ray has DTS Dolby5.1 and 24/96 versions of the album. It might be nice for you to review this to see if there is any improvement in quality over the CD (probably not). Does any one know if they Used the 'Plangent' system when transferring the original masters to digital - this would offer the biggest jump in sound quality. It has done wonders for other contemporary bands such as The Grateful Dead, The Doors, The Rolling Stones etc.
@johnnytheg
@johnnytheg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew. Another great way to start my Saturday morning. The problem with releasing things that are dependent on the technology of the day is that they have a short shelf life. It is annoying that you have to go back to an old OS to actually view the menu of this usb. I can't even watch the quicktime movies on my 2009 remastered CDs anymore. Also, I am with you 100%, I am not a big fan of the remixes, but I wish they would put out an analog version of the stereo set. I would buy that in a heartbeat.
@garym3658
@garym3658 2 жыл бұрын
You don't (& probably shouldn't) use a computer at all. Most quality BDPs (& DVD for that matter) have an input for USB and can play this USB in FLAC.
@TheJFGB93
@TheJFGB93 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why your QuickTime files are not working, but any PC video player (VLC is a popular one) should be able to play them nowadays, unless the problem is that you don't have a CD/DVD drive on your computer anymore. The old OS thing may be because Apple dropped support for 32-bit apps on newer versions of MacOS, and most computer programs were done for that architecture back then.
@jesserussell7242
@jesserussell7242 2 жыл бұрын
I love that video that you did Andrew it is great thank you so much for covering the USB Beatles albums.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Jesse.
@IndigoDavei
@IndigoDavei 2 жыл бұрын
I gave the USB a miss, I'm afraid. At the start of this video I was starting to regret my decision, but by the end I felt no regret at all! Nonetheless, I would like to see the entire Beatles catalogue available in well-mastered hi-res. By that, I mean 24/96 - no way would I hear any difference at 24/192 (and I'd have to concentrate hard to hear any benefit at 96KHz). As for an all analogue stereo LP set, I'd love to see that if the records were mastered and pressed well (though I have an all analogue set anyway), but I worry that there might not be a big enough market out there to make it viable (in the short term, at least). Can still hope.
@ecruzad1
@ecruzad1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the always insightful review. V
@Margarinetaylorgrease
@Margarinetaylorgrease 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I don't hear any difference until 192. I don't mean cleaner top end or detail, I mean space.
@peterlv68
@peterlv68 2 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely zero benefit in the audible spectrum at more than CD quality. It's all snake oil. If this argument was true, lower frequencies would be "higher quality" than the higher frequencies.
@Margarinetaylorgrease
@Margarinetaylorgrease 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterlv68 Not when it come to timing of transients and reverb. I know some people can't hear it but to me, given the right recording, it can be night and day.
@IndigoDavei
@IndigoDavei 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, there is some evidence that listeners can hear the benefit of hi res material. Perhaps one of the better known demonstrations of this comes from a Queen Mary University London meta study (from 12,500 trials involving 400 participants) which stated, 'Results showed a small but statistically significant ability of test subjects to discriminate high resolution content [...]' (Reiss, 2016). I know this is a hotly disputed area, but the claims of a benefit are not evidence free. Reiss, J. D. (2016). A Meta-Analysis of High Resolution Audio Perceptual Evaluation. J. Audio Eng. Soc., vol. 64, no. 6, pp. 364-379.
@catsofsherman1316
@catsofsherman1316 2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis confirmed my initial thoughts about this particular release. I thought it was an overpriced gimmick. I'm as big a fan as anyone, but their marketing can be a bit too mercenary. All you need is love and a few hundred quid. Money can't buy you love, but it can rent it by the hour. Good video. Cheers.
@deanstanley2125
@deanstanley2125 2 жыл бұрын
As the Rutles once sang "All You Need Is Cash"
@Dudeitsmeee
@Dudeitsmeee 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy these in depth looks at Beatles remasters. They give us non collectors a look at what is available in the vastly large catalog of Beatles music releases, we can pick and choose what to seek out
@BomChickyBowWow
@BomChickyBowWow 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching Beatles stuff and collecting Beatles stuff for about twenty years now. You’re the most enjoyable and informative Beatles channel I’ve ever found. I love your videos. Keep it up.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@johncarsell1205
@johncarsell1205 2 жыл бұрын
Why oh why did they have to use the limiter switch? In my opinion, they could have sold more of these without the unnecessary compression.
@billleary5779
@billleary5779 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Andrew! I was familiar with this but never gave it much thought. I was aware that it was higher resolution but didn’t think it would make much of a difference. Thanks to your video for confirming that. It does look like a cool collectible though. I seriously hope Apple reconsiders issuing the Beatles catalog in all analog stereo. That would be such a huge win for fans. I believe Michael Fremer said on his channel that he ran into Jeff Jones and he basically told Michael the same thing you said about not making the set too elitist….oh well….we can always hope, take care!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill. You never know!
@mandatorycreativity
@mandatorycreativity 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love for those flat-transferred 24/192 files to get an official release eventually. They probably won’t though, especially with the current emphasis on remixes.
@MonsieurC64
@MonsieurC64 Жыл бұрын
I'd love it too. Those files available for download would make a lot of people happy, and the cost for EMI would be almost nothing, easy money. Why not then ?
@james6039
@james6039 Жыл бұрын
They also have the Mono mixers in 192/24 somewhere in a vault.
@babylemonade2868
@babylemonade2868 2 жыл бұрын
This man is the go to man for everything Beatles. Love your videos
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@13StJimmy
@13StJimmy 2 жыл бұрын
Now I’m tempted to buy one just to have on my desk 😂
@lapin-rouge
@lapin-rouge 2 жыл бұрын
Showed up in my recommendeds because I love most anything Beatles. Your knowledge, presentation, and subject matter is second-to-none! I love your voice, too. Reminds me of Kurzgesagt’s narrator
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ally679
@ally679 2 жыл бұрын
I don't consider myself an audiophile, but I did get this back in 2009 thinking I had something special with the FLAC files 😄. I never noticed a difference. I'm kind of glad I have it though. It's pretty cool looking on my shelf.
@Bootlegger1892
@Bootlegger1892 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed my UK copy spells disc with a k (as in “diskette”). The CD 16/44.1 to my ears sounds identical to the hi res FLAC so I concur with you. The best digital version was my own 24/96 FLAC digitisation of the vinyl. My Windows 10 VM running on my Mac fails to mount the drive so the way I launch the software is to run the EXE for PC in OSX with my Win10 VM running. But then the selling point to me was that you could copy the FLAC’s from the USB else I wouldn’t have bothered. Of course they could have slung hi res versions of the mono discography on the drive too but they didn’t.
@MicroChirp
@MicroChirp 2 жыл бұрын
There's still no flac mono Beatles albums, not on streaming either.
@catsupempire3920
@catsupempire3920 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute topper of a video Andy. These are my go-to versions when I want to hear any of the songs quickly and I’m glad to hear your thoughts on them.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@val058
@val058 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done presentation. It exceeds the quality of media industry productions.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Richard.
@chriscampanozzi6516
@chriscampanozzi6516 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew. Thank you for another wonderful video. A great way to start my Sunday.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Chris.
@Tony-ug1mv
@Tony-ug1mv 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, fascinating information regarding the USB stick👍
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tony 👍
@Fresca64_
@Fresca64_ 2 жыл бұрын
I have to think that the 44.1khz choice was a poor move. More bit depth of the same source can't be worse, but a higher sampling rate is what would push it above the CDs, like we've seen on the blu-ray discs of the 50th Anniversary releases (the rips of the Abbey Road blu-ray have been getting a lot of mileage on my system). Thanks for your review!
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 2 жыл бұрын
despite the fact a higher sample rate is practically useless due to human hearing maxing out at about ~20khz (doubled to 40khz due to how audio works), and can actually cause issues in some cases with playback
@djdac7451
@djdac7451 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, GREAT job Andrew!!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@donaldmoore4412
@donaldmoore4412 2 жыл бұрын
love you're channel. Thank you for the great content as well.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Donald. Glad you enjoy it.
@donaldmoore4412
@donaldmoore4412 2 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram I do. and I'm going to save up and get that Beatles USB.! Thanks again !
@jonkotick5233
@jonkotick5233 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many variations of the Beatles recordings that I can't keep up or keep track. As a life long fan and vinyl collector, I have almost given up on trying to build a quality Beatles collection. I have decided to spend my time on collecting other artist and only making the occasional Beatles purchase. This includes my purchase from Parlogram. Thanks for your videos. Very informative, very knowledgeable and very interesting ... great work👍
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jon!
@KahlessTheUnforgettable
@KahlessTheUnforgettable 10 ай бұрын
I got one of these when it came out along with the stereo and mono sets. I’ve never tried to listen to it; but I’ve got it in my living room in a cabinet along with some of my collection of Beatles memorabilia. I’ve got a few items of note; but this is the item my Beatles-naive guests always want to see up close or know more about. For all its shortcomings, it is a beautiful little collectible & feels very much ‘English,’ like a diecast Dinky toy from the 1960s 🍏
@carlrudd1858
@carlrudd1858 Жыл бұрын
Top notch, Squier... Amazing content.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir.
@Onehappyworlds
@Onehappyworlds 2 жыл бұрын
Cool interesting video. I bought 1 at the time but didn't have a computer setup. I just gave it to my nephew. He's more into computer than I am. Never regretted it. He liked it. So I also bought him the Beatles mono set. Passing along great music.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 2 жыл бұрын
I really think that all the Beatles albums should be re-released on proper 180 gram vinyl. Complete with all the proper art work, stickers and cardboard cutouts if that particular album had them, like Sargeant Peppers for example. Even on coloured vinyl if appropriate like the White Album.
@seamussmith7310
@seamussmith7310 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew, I'm off to see my 12 year old nephew to tell me what that was about. 😁 Nice for the car as you say.
@JackBobsonOfficial
@JackBobsonOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited for the next episode, it's awesome as always!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Jack!
@dt9344
@dt9344 2 жыл бұрын
It seems Apple geared this for the younger market. Nothing beats listening to music through a stereo system. Thanks Andrew for another very informative video.
@sethkaufman5416
@sethkaufman5416 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, Great explanation/ comparison.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Seth.
@peterbeulke8082
@peterbeulke8082 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best presenters I've heard fabulous stuff
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Peter.
@skytheguy0438
@skytheguy0438 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful video as always! I made sure to post it to the Beatles discord server so that it could reach a wider audience of Beatles fans. Hopefully you've been healthy and well and will continue making videos for us Beatles nerds!
@jgadadi
@jgadadi 2 жыл бұрын
As I have said before, thanks for the effort you put in these videos! Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷✌🏻
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Jair.
@anton88ist
@anton88ist 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing us that the USB Flac files indeed do not sound any better than the CD version . At the time of its initial release one could read several reviews from misguided buyers on Amazon who insisted the (so called) Hi-Res files sounded superior. It was not true then and it is not true now. I did my own in-depth comparison and came to the same conclusion.
@Topsy_Krett
@Topsy_Krett 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct when you say that you could not hear a difference between the two level-matched formats... There should be none audible. Why? Because 16-bit audio produces 96dB of dynamic range (and even more with dither properly applied). The Studer J37 tape machines used for many of the Beatles recordings have a maximum range of only 76dB. Thus, the crazy-high 144dB range produced by the USB's 24-bit audio is total overkill and matters nought.
@machavez00
@machavez00 2 жыл бұрын
The entire Beatles catalog is available on Apple Music as 24 bit lossless Apple Digital Masters, the new remixes in hi res lossless and ATMOS. They sound noticeably better then the cd version of the same album.
@machavez00
@machavez00 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonytramontano4235 The iTunes versions are Apple Digital Masters. Listen to them before dismissing them.
@paulbradley705
@paulbradley705 2 жыл бұрын
looks amazing on a shelf next to my yellow sub. i paid $ 50 AUD convereted to mp3s and made a cd-r that i play on blu ray player.
@horowizard
@horowizard 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andrew, for this review. I even requested that you do this comparison. I've read reviews claiming that the audio was most amazing and the best they ever heard The Beatles sound anywhere on any format. What stopped me from actually buying this was when I found out that the audio was at a 44.1kHz Sample rate, which is hard for me to consider High Resolution, when we have 96kHz and above, up to 192kHz.
@FD13NYC
@FD13NYC 2 жыл бұрын
I must say I bought this little collectible when it came out, but oddly never plugged it in or tried it out in the past 12 years. I guess I was thinking that I have enough Beatle material to satisfy me. One day maybe I should.
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea with collectors items. I'd have backed up the tunes and put it in storage.. For the price the apple should have doubled as an MP3 player (and FLAC player) considering you could get them for less than £20 in 2009.. The stalk controls track and album selection. Desktop MP3 player for Beatles fans with more money than sense... Your typical Beatles fan, Boomers!
@chrismcgovern1647
@chrismcgovern1647 2 жыл бұрын
I would have bought it if it included the mono mixes too
@leesharra1413
@leesharra1413 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this with us. It is interesting that they worked with some relatively low resolution audio files.
@RobertP_1960
@RobertP_1960 2 жыл бұрын
I too would like to see a "Blue Box" type analog release at a decent price point..say $300 overall I don't mind the 2009 remasters, only a few areas. I prefer the 1965 mix of Help! and Rubber Soul they put on the Mono CDs as an extra. I do await the remixes of the earlier releases as they do need something to get rid of that L/R mix. Your next project could be a comparison of Anthology material that has since been re-released on newer remix extras and how they differ in sound quality etc. I know they've added many of those tracks remixed on these new ones.
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff, as usual. Thanks for the revelations! Cheers
@jimcharles9705
@jimcharles9705 2 жыл бұрын
As a percent of music listeners, my guess is that many more people today, compared to the 70s & 80s, play music through really poor speakers - if they even use speakers, so many of them using "ear buds" or headphones. People just don't play music on a good rig these days over speakers meant to fill a large room with high-fidelity sound. And rare is the music lover under 35 or 40 who will even mention "sound quality". They just don't care. So, I think a lot of this talk (on the videos on this channel) is more for the older crowd who might still enjoy the Beatles on an actual stereo system.
@james6039
@james6039 Жыл бұрын
A few things about the USB. I loved this when it first came out. However it does have the same overEQ as the 2009 Stereo CDs. So right away I reEQed them on Sound Forge (still in 24 bits) back to a normal EQ - more like the 87 CDs and the original LPs. The reEQ was mostly to tone down the bass and treble. 4 or 5 albums had a variation of the main EQ I was using. Abbey Rd was the hardest to get right. Later when I got a BR Player that could play HiRez Flacs I upsampled them all to 176.4k and then applied the appropriate EQs. Sound Forge has a "Batch" program that's makes this easy to do. So these were my favorite Stereo versions for 5-6 years until the limiting started to bother me and I went back to the 87 CDs (Revolver to Let It Be and Past Masters) which have no limiting. The USBs first 4 LPs with my EQ are still my favorite Stereo versions. With Help and Rubber Soul the best Stereo versions are in the Mono box which btw has no limiting and no overEQing on anything in it. Comparing the virgin USB to the 2009 CDs on the same player at "Rock Volume" I can definitely hear more detail on the USB. At normal volume you may not hear a difference. Also when the USB come out I was disappointed that it didn't have the 192k/24b files on it and it didn't have the Mono versions along with the Stereo versions.
@james6039
@james6039 Жыл бұрын
I didn't mention the best sounding Abbey Road is the 1983 Pre-Emphasis CD. The 87 is very close to it. Also "Analog Kids" my comments above are only about the digital domain.
@christianfairhurst3877
@christianfairhurst3877 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with analog vs. digital is that unless you're an audiophile with a high end system us regular people just won't be able to tell the difference. If you believe otherwise I've got audiophile fuses for sale.
@RyanMan767
@RyanMan767 2 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry to say it, i'm not even an "audiophile", but if you can't tell the difference between analogue and digital on nearly any pair of consumer headphones or speakers, then you might need to get your ears checked lol. and I can't even tell the difference between an MP3 and a good FLAC file. But digital is wayyaay higher fidelity than anything analogue, containing way more audible information and all.
@santishorts
@santishorts 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMan767 If you mean the difference between vinyl and digital, yeah, the difference should be fairly obvious, they are very different formats. But no one would be able to tell the difference between the original tapes and the non-edited transfer to digital of said tapes, which would speak good of both mediums.
@moondogaudiojones1146
@moondogaudiojones1146 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent critique again. And you were spot on with the ears of an older guy such as myself…and a drummer to boot to add frequency loss! But like you I can see the wave forms and it’s helpful (yet sad to know the truth). Great job on this.3 thumbs up!! Have you discussed the Japanese Pro Use recordings yet?
@alanjacobs9216
@alanjacobs9216 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff. Had l bought this collection, the sound quality comparison would be further complicated by the fact that my hi-fi set-up upscales the CD versions to 24bit. On a point of interest, not all aged listeners lose their hearing at the same rate. You'd be surprised what l can still hear in frequency and re-mixing differences through the ages, from original mono and stereo pressings to the latest vinyl and CD - and High Res audio! - remasters/mixes. I'm only 66.........pardon?
@Snarkyone1965
@Snarkyone1965 2 жыл бұрын
On the flip side, I went stone deaf overnight on 1/14/14. Woke up to the television playing but no sound. I turned up the sound only to find that it was at its usual levels. It crushed me. A lifelong drummer, a noodling guitar player for 40 years, music was a big part of my life, and it was snatched away in the middle of the night like a thief. The good news is that with my Beltone hearing aid, I can hear again, not the best, but good enough. I’ve now taken guitar back up seriously, got.a new set of electronic drums, a 7pc from Alesis with the Turbo Mesh heads, and music is once again in my life. I think he was just pointing out that people do indeed experience hearing loss as they get older, and certain frequencies just don’t connect. Glad to hear that your hearing is excellent.
@jordanclava931
@jordanclava931 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like one of the people on The Beatles Sirius XM channel
@rbriggs89
@rbriggs89 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing 😂
@paulraper1
@paulraper1 2 жыл бұрын
Very,very informative. Great work.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Paul.
@mikegerrish3459
@mikegerrish3459 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm glad that I grew up with records played on a Dansette, and later some more serious Hi-Fi, or copied onto a cassette, with all the failings of those formats. These modern formats cancel all of the fun and excitement involved with the process of listening to music.
@robertsaul234
@robertsaul234 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it as a curio when it came out. It's The Beatles' "pet rock".
@philipeaton3102
@philipeaton3102 2 жыл бұрын
be nice to hear a bit about the hey jude album
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
It's on my list, Philip.
@stephenjerome4135
@stephenjerome4135 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Andrew. At the time this USB thing came out I had already got the black Beatles in stereo CD box set so didn't really feel the need to buy the USB though at the time I thought it was a rather unusual but really cool collector's piece. It was interesting watching you going through the various menu options and the sound quality comparisons in the video. I'd love to see a review video on the Capitol Albums Volumes 1 & 2 CD box sets I have in my Beatles collection. I think that would be a great topic for a future video. Great work Andrew.
@Bay6Print
@Bay6Print 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazing video! Thanks for this, I learned from it and enjoyed it while doing so…
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@KooperKyle
@KooperKyle 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good video, good job
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Kooper.
@Bliggick
@Bliggick 2 жыл бұрын
If I had this USB collection I would copy it too for my day to day use and store the original to keep it safe and pristine.
@PaulLea
@PaulLea 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing your interisting clip I'm now glad I didn't buy that Apple USB. You still can't beat holding the LP cover in your hand as you sit back and enjoy the whole side of a record.
@Downhuman74
@Downhuman74 2 жыл бұрын
24/192 might have been a better choice for these. But even then, 24-bit is just the container and has no real bearing on sound quality. A properly dithered 16-bit file is aurally indistinguishable from 24, even on the best system. And poorly-dithered 16-bit sources are so rare that it's not even worth mentioning. And the extra compression is so delicately applied to these masters, that it's barely worth mentioning as well. People got far too upset about that. They're still miles above the noise-reduced 80's digital masters at any rate. But going back to 24/192 -- even 192khz would be a barely noticeable upgrade considering the vintage of the source tapes. Unless, you have a super high-end system. And even then, it's not going to be revelatory. That USB apple is pretty cool-looking, though. A cool artifact. It would look great on a shelf next to the CD sets.
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 2 жыл бұрын
and also 192khz being impossible for our ears to hear - as well as 96khz
@toneslotohnz4540
@toneslotohnz4540 2 жыл бұрын
@@LBSiUK I tend to disagree. Subtle harmonics, while not "audible", make all the difference in something sounding "real" and "present" as opposed to sounding recorded, imho. Especially with acoustic instruments and vocals. Electrified instruments... not so much because of the inherent distortion and/or recording techniques. Sample rates higher than 44.1khz are needed to record the frequencies those subtle harmonics reside in. This again is just my opinion and experience (backed by some reference material I've seen, read, and heard)... your milage may vary, as they say. That said, I think you do an incredible job, and your channel is a great gift to us Beatles fans! Thank you for all your amazing research and knowledge!
@dogratco
@dogratco 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately after acquiring my read-only Beatles USB, I made multiple copies of the FLAC and MP3 files. One year later I tried to read the drive again. Tried and tried again, on my various Windows systems. It didn't work. The drive had failed. I haven't checked it in a couple of years, but I have no confidence that it will ever work again. I agree regarding your sound quality comparison. P.S. The error is, "Unknown USB Device (Device Descriptor Request Failed)"
@thomascars1
@thomascars1 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a controversial statement, but the more I think about it, I don’t need an analogue stereo box. Being completely honest, the early albums and Rubber Soul/Revolver sound like crap in stereo. Realistically I only like the Stereo mixes of Beatles for Sale, Help, Pepper, and White album. It would be great if they released analogue cuts of Abbey Road and Let it Be though. Those two and the White album are the only analogue stereo albums I’d grab in a heartbeat. Otherwise, mono reigns supreme
@anthonylakich1727
@anthonylakich1727 2 ай бұрын
i found the Beatles Memory stick at a Half Price Book in texas and it just a fun peace of Beatles Trying to put Beatles music in the 2000
@dmCurator
@dmCurator 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all in on an analog stereo set!!!
@davidlorryman998
@davidlorryman998 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew. Still loving your amazing documentaries. Thank you. I bought this beautiful thing as it was the only way to get the Beatles albums in 24 bit. You are able to download the albums from the stick in 24 bit / ( but unfortunately only) 44.1 kHz FLAC to your network drive. You can then play them back on your hi-res streamer. I must have another listen to the 24-bit files to remind myself how they sound. Some of the track listings were a bit of a mess - Rubber Soul being one of them - so I had to manually change some of the track titles. No way would I have purchased it for the 16-bit files alone. Some PCs / Macs can decode 24 bit so you can connect the analogue output to your stereo. Thanks again. I've learnt so much about the Beatles I didn't know. Cheers, David
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, David.
@MVrockersPS3
@MVrockersPS3 Ай бұрын
They should release the 24/192 transfers untouched.
@Newton14alan
@Newton14alan 2 жыл бұрын
I just put all of my MFSL, DCC, Sony Mastersound, AU20, MCA, and RCA Gold CD's (223 of them--you're damn right I'm bragging) onto a tiny 239 GB Samsung Flash Drive. I sold all of the actual CD's, years ago, to save my home, which was in foreclosure. But, before I did, I ripped all the files to a hard drive that I was using at the time. I was terrified that the drive might "kick the bucket", and I'd lose everything, which is why I just transferred them to the flash drive. I plan on repeating this action as soon as I have a few bucks to spare...just to be on the safe side. I still had room to include ten aluminum master discs, and quite a few DVDs, with 39gb of space left over. So there is NO excuse for releasing The Beatles Catalog in anything less than the finest sound quality possible (compression be damned). I LOVE the usb format! `Don't know how long it'll be around, though. I should think it would last, since you can't really make a device any smaller without making it difficult to impossible to hold in One's hand. Thanks for your careful analysis!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Alan.
@cjay2
@cjay2 2 жыл бұрын
You only used ONE drive to hold those files? One gigabyte drives cost 50Euro each right now on ebay. Buy two identical ones NOW, and copy that old drive onto each of the two HD's. You're not backed up at all unless you have at least 2 copies. 3 is the standard requirement. Having 2 means that when one dies, you buy another drive and copy the remaining one onto it immediately. 3 working copies means you're secure.
@Newton14alan
@Newton14alan 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjay2 -- I paid $35.00 U.S.D., on Amazon, for the 256GB usb. And I fully agree with you on the back-up strategy. Right now, my hard drive is still working. With my new usb, that's two. When I get another usb, that'll be three. `No reason to sweat needlessly. Thanks for the tip all the same. It's "sound" advice! Be well, my friend!
@SonicWizKid_Kates
@SonicWizKid_Kates 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, Andrew, and I support it. After a friend showed off to me what a high resolution FLAC (192kHz or higher, 24 or 32 bit)- it was The Beach Boys God Only Knows- sounds like through a quality DAC, into a vintage Macintosh stereo tube pre-amp and amp, and pumping out of Klipsch Heresy speakers... I've been slowly dipping my toes into the universe of high-end FLACs and the deep listening experience- with the proper gear- they are capable of providing. I highly recommend you start exploring that world. I know it's not cheap. But if you build your gear up, even bit by bit, the rewards can be revelatory, astounding. When you are ready, I would love to see a discussion of all things Beatle in the high-end FLAC world. From what I can see, so far, only the remixes of the last decade or so can be found in the 192kHz-or-above world. But what I've heard of those, with good playback and gear, is pretty great, despite the problems and lack of "fairy dust" that the remixes often seem to have. I've yet to hear any of the surround mixes, and would love to see a discussion and analysis of those, though I am late to the party and may have missed such a discussion in the past. So much content, so little brain to absorb it all! All I know is, the more I "up" the quality of the input into my brain, the greater my enjoyment. Cheers, and please keep up the great work! Your LA audio pal, Bill.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support, Bill. I'd love to own gear like that one day.
@jameseybhoy1974
@jameseybhoy1974 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It was interesting. I agree an all analogue stereo set would be fab.
@Daniel-ec8fj
@Daniel-ec8fj 2 жыл бұрын
the remixes are the definitive editions imo mono for the early records
@tcaudiobooks737
@tcaudiobooks737 2 жыл бұрын
Forever Changes is the bollocks!
@Tunz909
@Tunz909 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they would, 1st generation fans like myself, (I'm 70) would purchase the analog to stereo set for sure. Heck I'd purchase the Beatles in Mono on Vinyl, I have the cd's, if the price were normal and not scalper prices like they are now. Their whole catalog needs to be remixed.
@senholto419
@senholto419 Жыл бұрын
I have only discovered your channel in the last few days and have ended up binge watching a lot of your videos. I have absolutely no interest in the Beatles, but I love the depth of your research and your style of video production. I'm a Michael Jackson fan and lament the unsophisticated discussion of Jackson's body of work on KZbin. Its interesting that Beatles fanatics like yourself, lament the lack of true analog stereo sets. Apple appear to mimic the Michael Jackson Estate in that they have not and don't seem interested in limited edition celebrations of Jackson's albums from Off The Wall to Invincible. The Jackson Estate appear to focus on what will bank them the most money (eg Cirque Du Soleil, Theatrical performances and compilations) instead of producing quality products for the people who have stood by Michael Jackson, despite the vicious attacks on his character over the last decade.
@TelstarFirst
@TelstarFirst 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the no DRM Apple, it was most appreciated. In terms of the ability to play this on a Mac, all you needed to do was scoop up all the music files and toss them into iTunes and let it sort them out.
@someguyorfemaleontheintern5837
@someguyorfemaleontheintern5837 2 жыл бұрын
make reviews on every Beatles albums and talk about the songs
@fussanchez2716
@fussanchez2716 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew! Would it be possible for you to cover the CD sets of the Capitol Albums and, most importantly, the U.S. Albums? The U.S. Albums were taken from the 24 / 44.1 masters, but the key difference is that they weren’t compressed or limited. Greg Calbi from Sterling Sound did this set, and I think he did a splendid job - the stereo sounds better, I think, than the 2009s and even the mono tracks were changed. After that - possibly the CD singles / EP box from the early nineties?
@muddymike10
@muddymike10 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode - thank you ! Thoughts for another episode might be individual member's releases... Take Mr. Starr's "Ringo" for example; as most know, it features all four members...
@britsluver
@britsluver 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I am shook I am loving these. While I'm binding off my section 1 of shawlography ♡
@jonasmertens3404
@jonasmertens3404 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if someone said it already, but I'm from Germany and "Disk" actually means "disc" in German. Your videos are great.
@OlavARod
@OlavARod 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video and overview of this product, as always! I’ve never payed too much attention to this nice USB stick, I have all the albums on vinyl y’know. It’s a little bit too expensive for something that probably will be sitting still on a shelf. But, if I see it for a nice low price (right now, it does not look good!), I will probably pick it up! And yes, I would LOVE to see a all analog stereo box set. Apple, you hear us?
@deepredson
@deepredson 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work!!!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Barty.
@tonygatos1
@tonygatos1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@juanluiszarzuela314
@juanluiszarzuela314 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to include a video about the Beatles and the computer machines. Since the 80s there are many approaches to the band's music, some interesting.
@dandevvers
@dandevvers 2 жыл бұрын
If it sounds anything like the 2014 remastered Red and Blue albums, an analogue stereo box set would be awesome!!! I imagine it would be expensive but not nearly as much as what that Mono box set goes for these days.
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