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The Beatles 45s - 2019 Box Set vs 1960's UK Originals

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Күн бұрын

In this video, we compare ALL 45s in the 2019 box set with a FULL SET of original UK 1st pressing 45s. In a shootout between the two sets, we find out which set sounds best and reveal the triumphs and fails of the new set.
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@jorgesoprano4627
@jorgesoprano4627 4 жыл бұрын
At last! A very serious and professional comparison, the 45 discs never was a hi-fi audiophile format. THANKS!!!
@kaiguitarguymenard
@kaiguitarguymenard 3 жыл бұрын
@Jaxton Miller you are right, nobody gives a shit
@dennisbrantley5108
@dennisbrantley5108 3 жыл бұрын
instablaster...
@five5x
@five5x 3 жыл бұрын
Not true.
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 5 ай бұрын
45s are technically better than full size LPs when it comes to audio quality...
@transformingArt
@transformingArt 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the reasons why the original 45s played a bit faster was that the lathes these were cut were modified 78 lathes with weight-driven motors on them which induced a gradual speed change as it went on.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
No! Not in the 1960s they weren't! Those had long been replaced by then.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
One way to tell, weight driven lathes, when cutting the run out groove, would waver slightly, and also their spiral would slow down as they reached the middle. Watch the run out groove as a record spins around and see if the run out groove "twinkles" as it curves inwards with a little shake. If so, it's weight driven. If not, and also you see the groove hit the final centre groove with full velocity, it's completely electric. Other changes that give this away: Run-in grooves are narrowly spaced and move in slowly, so you have about 4 or 5 revolutions' worth to get to the "working grooves", whereas the weight driven ones have just one turn's worth of run in groove that just sweeps rapidly and wildly from the edge of the disc (because the cutter head is effectively in freefall at that point).
@IsraelQuezada999
@IsraelQuezada999 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from México, and I was pleased that Hello Goodbye recreated the artwork and center label of the Mexican edition, that brings me back great memories when I was a child because it was the one I liked the most and played it a lot on my grandfather's console. Great review, I'll see if I can get this box set.
@raulmacias1311
@raulmacias1311 3 жыл бұрын
Capitol Records should re-release a box of their original singles from 1964 - 1970 featuring the original picture sleeves in thicker cardboard picture sleeves in glossy colour! My all-time favourite American picture sleeve is Lady Madonna! It was truly the last time The Beatles actually had fun in the studio!
@kevintyson9026
@kevintyson9026 Жыл бұрын
I played all 23 singles in my box set last Friday and they sounded great.
@ROCKINGMAN
@ROCKINGMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I find your analysis of Beatles albums, singles and EPs very thorough and interesting. I remember a friend , back in '85, lent me his original 45's that he bought in the 60's. I was overwhelmed by the fantastic sound. Although I liked most 60's beat combos, I became an instant Beatles fan. It's a shame that other releases don't always match up to the originals.
@Karlvany
@Karlvany 4 жыл бұрын
I asked several "KZbinrs" who talked about this box, about the mixes of their first two singles, if they contained the same original mixes released in the 60s, especially that of "Ask Me Why", which EMI has never reissued later (either on vinyl or on CD). But none of them knew how to answer me on this subject. His videos fulfill the most detailed questions from Beatles fans. Thank you very much. (Cláudio - Brazil)
@nojebs
@nojebs 3 жыл бұрын
Took the plunge today and got a brand new box set from ebay and I love it! As you say, it is all about replicating the 60s sound and feel, not creating an audiophile set of 45s per se. The critics have simply not understood the purpose!
@paulwhitehead6749
@paulwhitehead6749 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who lived through Beatlemania and the 60's, I really enjoy your videos, particularly the unboxings. I am frequently reminded of the time on the release of Can't Buy Me Love, when my Mother strode into our local record shop and demanded "the obvious please!"
@markkopernicky3489
@markkopernicky3489 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review. I'm still anxiously waiting the review of the 2014 Mono albums to the originals. I personally love the new mono pressings...and compared to some of the original albums I have. .they are very close and a few sound a touch better...looking forward to your review.
@jasonardler4913
@jasonardler4913 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating as always, thanks Andrew. I debated buying this set for 2 years because I already had the 1982 Australian Singles Collection, which includes all of these 45’s and more. In the end it was the packaging I couldn’t resist - it maybe an unfair comparison (after all it’s served me well for 40 years), but this set makes my 1982 collection look like a cheap knockoff. Definitely no regrets.
@ScottysElvisPresleyMusicChanel
@ScottysElvisPresleyMusicChanel 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve come up trumps again Andrew..top rate review. I love watching your videos..the master!!
@blueriverlore
@blueriverlore 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again Andrew. I've had this box set in my cart for over a month while I've been purchasing my 'refresh' set of Beatles 33 1/3 vinyl. You have been my go-to Tuber when it comes to honest and knowledgeable reviews of Beatles recordings past and current. I wanted to relive my childhood experience of the journey of getting my hands on the latest Beatles song back in the 60s from Woolworths. I just pulled the silver hammer and it's arriving in a couple of days from Walmart. Excellent review once again!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 ай бұрын
You're welcome! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
@jessierussell8011
@jessierussell8011 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t wait to get the Beatles singles collection it was really fantastic when I listen to them. I love everything about the boxer from the packaging all the way to the 45 some selves including the bonus disc which features free as a bird in real life.. I thought that the team at Abbey Road that I’m good job remastering stuff although it is tricky to play 45s in on a turntable if you have one like I do which is a techniques. But I think that I’m so glad that the vinyl 45s were still available when I bought them my record store here in Portland Oregon.
@bobsoldrecords1503
@bobsoldrecords1503 2 жыл бұрын
Update: I've just gotten an original VG+ 1963 copy of She Loves You. The sound is great all 'round with a brilliant top end and decent bass. One thing I can't hear are the seven edits or tape dropouts affecting Ringo's ride cymbal. My system is entry level audiophile and does a very good job with most recordings. She Loves You is one of the best sounding of their early singles. Even the American Swan single sounds quite good.
@russellthechemist8291
@russellthechemist8291 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. I like how balanced it is. Good to hear both the headlines and the details. Surprising that the original mixes of Please Please Me and Ask Me Why were not used.
@MsSteve70
@MsSteve70 4 жыл бұрын
A joyfully forensic video! Much enjoyed.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks MrSteve, glad you enjoyed it!
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 3 жыл бұрын
00:31 Oooo, a subtle jab at Vinyl Rewind.
@randykoger4646
@randykoger4646 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Randy!
@bryandavidson9682
@bryandavidson9682 2 жыл бұрын
Once again Great Video. Just bought this set at a record fair and paid £120. I was happy with that as it was new and sealed. A great collectors set but I still love the originals that I have.
@mhgbzbph
@mhgbzbph 4 жыл бұрын
professionally, as always. thanx!
@rickenbacker12
@rickenbacker12 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget that the original 45s and LPs were cut with tube amplifiers which plays a major factor in the sound department, EMI (along with Decca) went to transistor amps in 1970. I'm hoping if Universal does a AAA edition of the stereo box is that tube amps are utilized for the cutting amps.
@MagicalMysteryMike
@MagicalMysteryMike 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly, Mike.
@mjanovec
@mjanovec 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to get a review of this box set that carefully considers the audio of the singles in context with the original releases. I think too many reviewers have trashed the audio quality without knowing how the original singles sounded. I still may not purchase this box, since nothing replaces the thrill of handling and playing the original singles, but it's good to know that option exist should I ever find a heavily discounted copy someday. I just kind of wish they had gone with a green color for the singles box, as a nod to the original Parlophone green that was on the sleeves for the singles. Maybe they figured it wouldn't look good against the Apple logo.
@danieladuran2899
@danieladuran2899 Жыл бұрын
This is a message from the future! I’m expanding my beatle collection and I’m seconding between this and mono masters… thanks so much for your input and expertise! 💕💕💕
@evileyeball
@evileyeball 4 жыл бұрын
I'm the kind of person who most often picka up 45s in the wild in bargain bins with writing all over them and terrible wear just so I can say I have it on 45 regardless of how bad it ends up sounding. I do have to agree with you on the booklet though, as someone who took his entire collection of 45's and not only digitized them as 320kbps MP3 files but also used my flatbed scanner alongside GIMP to make 600DPI scans of the vinyl itself to use as album art on each of the MP3 recordings Let me tell you how much more pleasing a straightened 45 image is vs one which is at an angle.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the whole thing smacks of something a young designer does who really didn't want to have to be doing this but did it because it was where the work was, but thinks it's funny that anyone would be interested in "this old stuff".
@magneto7930
@magneto7930 4 жыл бұрын
I had the American versions of these 45s and LP's when I was a kid. Needless to say, we got the short end of the stick over here, but we didn't know any better. I prefer a lot of those original mono mixes, particularly Help, which I had on a 45. I still have quite a few of those 45 left. Anyway, that was an excellent presentation. Two thumbs up for you sir!
@willhouse
@willhouse 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the EMI engineering staff were actually quite envious of the big sound in Capitol's Beatles records at the time. Management tried to enforce very strict mastering standards to minimize distortion for the UK releases, whereas Capitol pressed their vinyl to sound as energetic as possible. If you find a copy of "Recording the Beatles" there is a ludicrous amount of little details like that; it's well worth the hefty price! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recording_the_Beatles
@TheRecordSleeve
@TheRecordSleeve 3 жыл бұрын
Recently bought this set based on your great and informative video. Yes,mine has a few slight warps but otherwise it’s a great sounding set.Thanks 👍
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad it was helpful. You may also enjoy our new video which also features this set: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIGcpn6Hqc1-hrs
@mvmmotovlogmusic2815
@mvmmotovlogmusic2815 4 жыл бұрын
THC always helped me maneuver thru any inadequacy found in these wonderful records.
@michaellennon13
@michaellennon13 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully elaborated. Very useful video man! So, the 2019 Box used covers and labels from varius countries' pressings, right? The very first UK 45s are all with generic green sleeves? For many years I thought the originals had photo covers like those shown in The Beatles 1 booklet.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Michael. All UK 45s came only in generic green covers except 'Strawberry Fields Forever' & 'Let It Be'.
@panslegs2773
@panslegs2773 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.
@simonseymour8879
@simonseymour8879 Жыл бұрын
I'm now the proud owner of two made in Barcelona 45s that I bought recently at a record fair they are Hey Jude And Help!. They have lovely artwork and vinyl looking near mint. Only £15 each. Made my day
@briankellymusician
@briankellymusician 4 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos Andrew, would love to see one of your own Beatles vinyl collection! Thx Brian..
@yankeekilo1
@yankeekilo1 2 жыл бұрын
LOVELY REVIEW!!, I HAVE THIS WONDERFUL BOX SET!!
@videoplusdvd
@videoplusdvd Ай бұрын
It’s 4 years later, and I finally took the plunge, because it was a clearance item, which, shockingly, was discounted to 50%, and when it’s price is $300CDN, half-price is a major bargain, especially when you consider how seriously overpriced new Beatles product has become, and Universal Music product in general. The store in question was Canadian chain Sunrise Records, and I can’t say for sure if it was chain-wide, but I’m glad to have found it so affordably priced!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram Ай бұрын
Nice score! Enjoy!
@kahnlives
@kahnlives Жыл бұрын
I know in the UK singles didn’t have picture sleeves, but to be honest the sleeves chosen for this set are so-so!
@jms1963
@jms1963 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Andrew. I purchased this set around 6 months ago and love it. I don't know what these people complaining about the sound quality are talking about, they sound fantastic. Just audiophile-pinheads doing what audiophile-pinheads do best, pretending they know more than you and whining like babies. The different labels from around the world was a great idea, but they didn't think it through enough. For instance, "Love Me Do/P.S. I Love You" should have had the red Parlophone label, since this is one of the Holy Grails of Beatles collecting. At least one of the early singles should have been on a Vee-Jay label, as they were extremely important in the Beatles gradual introduction to this country. "I Want To Hold Your Hand/This Boy" should have been on the Capitol swirl label, since that was the single that broke them in such an enormous way in America. If they had a problem with that since "I Saw Her Standing There" was originally the B-side, they also could have done it with "She Loves You/I'll Get You". "Hey Jude/Revolution" should have been on the Apple label, since that was famously the first single for the new venture. If I'm not mistaken, every single after that was on an Apple label, not sure why they decided to get unimaginative at that point. "Let It Be/You Know My Name" should have been on the red Apple label, for obvious reasons. I feel these are just no-brainers that were sadly overlooked, because no one in that company seems to think like a fan. The sales of the set would have done no better or no worse if these common-sense changes had been made. I'd be interested to hear your opinion on that, if you have the time. Thank you and keep up the great work with the videos, we really appreciate them. I've learned so much that I never knew before, and I thought I knew a lot. I had no idea how much I had to learn!
@djgaryowens
@djgaryowens 4 жыл бұрын
I felt badly let down by EMI when they put out that LP box in 1979 and many bought albums again that they owned already just to get the Rarities album and then they issued the Rarities as a standalone album, what a swizz that we bought an expensive boxed set just to get that one album.
@jdmack01
@jdmack01 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that the new 45 of “All You Need Is Love” has a slightly longer fade. The original 1967 U.S. 45 has a slightly longer fade as well. How does the length of the fade on the new 45 compare to an original “Magical Mystery Tour” mono EP?
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment but 'All You Need Is Love' is not on the EP.
@jdmack01
@jdmack01 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram D'oh! Of course not! I feel like an idiot.
@nrod66
@nrod66 4 жыл бұрын
So many reissues over the years that I think I'll pass on that one. But, anyway, I enjoyed the video and the infos. Please, keep the videos coming. Cheers, Nelio.
@justinparkman3585
@justinparkman3585 4 жыл бұрын
I have read on many Audiophile sites to hear the best sounding of these original beatles 45s from the sixties you need to use a mono cartridge these original 45s will have a wider groove of 1.0 a stereo record is 0.7 therefore a stereo cartridge will be very slightly be bouncing around in an original mono record causing distortion .
@fussanchez2716
@fussanchez2716 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t speak for the singles collection, but the new Mono box set was created with a 0.7 groove to be able to be played on modern record players.
@jessierussell8011
@jessierussell8011 3 жыл бұрын
That was very well done Andrew with the comparisons of the different 45s. What do you plan on doing next?
@davidmccullough-uq1if
@davidmccullough-uq1if Жыл бұрын
Got mine last year for Christmas opened a Amazon prime account set was going for $150 got a $100 off still haven't opened it after watching this say I got hit the jackpot with this buy
@allanblack294
@allanblack294 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video thanks. At 7.10, over about 2.5 minutes, the 1 or 2 second difference , could be the very slight difference between the speed of the original mastering recorder, and the playback machine used for disc mastering. Even though every recorder is speed checked with specially made strobe tapes, I’ve seen a very slight difference, even the weight of mismatched tape spools can do it. In 1961 at 2UE in Sydney we had our on air 45rpm turntables running at 48rpm. This was so dial twisting listeners heard a ‘brighter’ Beatles sound than our competition and over 30mins. broadcasting, we could get in 1 or 2 extra 30sec. ads. We never got any complaints.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks for watching!
@allanblack294
@allanblack294 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram Then there’s the tape stock. Back in those days EMI made their own brand recording tape, and it had a shiny polyester (plastic) backing. At the time this was the standard for all tape manufacturers, Ampex, Scotch, BASF, Irish, Pyral and others. And depending on how it was handled, it could stretch. A slightly out of alignment recorder needing its next scheduled maintenance, could ever so slightly damage the tape. Then ‘matt backed’ tape came out, designed to spool nice and flat without any edges sticking out and reduce print through. But it had one major fault, it had ‘urethane’ in the backing, and over time urethane dissolves in the atmosphere. This caused untold ‘sticking’ problems in a multi billion dollar industry, but that’s another story.
@jameseybhoy1974
@jameseybhoy1974 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Bought the set too, was generally impressed apart from the warped discs.
@user-up2gb1ro3b
@user-up2gb1ro3b 9 ай бұрын
It occurs to me that from now on every Beatle song can be remixed and then released many times. Every time they can boost the vocals or boost any instrument or even add sounds from tracks that were left off the original releases. In his way EMI will make a fortune. What EMI needs to do is release all Beatle songs in the future on a new medium that has ALL the isolated channels on it so it is in effect an exact copy of the MASTER TAPE. Together with the launch of a new player for this new medium the listener can play back these songs either in the default way they were originally released OR the user can boost any track with a mixing table included with the player. So in effect the user can pay back any way they want and listen to any isolated track or boost tracks etc. Listen to bass track only or drums only or vocals only. Then if you add AI you can isolate parts that are on one track . I wouldnt pay for any new releases based on new mixes BUT I would pay for both all Beatle songs released with all individual tracks accessable to the listener and the player needed.
@pauldavis645
@pauldavis645 Жыл бұрын
I wish this was released as a cd boxset
@shiresongs
@shiresongs Жыл бұрын
andrew you are a universal treasure!
@HouseofRecordsTacoma
@HouseofRecordsTacoma 4 жыл бұрын
kudos for including what Kit you used.
@jessierussell8011
@jessierussell8011 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the 2000 nineteen boxer I bought it at one of my favorite music stores here in Portland Oregon and it is really fantastic I especially loved that they added free as a bird and real love being a huge Beatles fan that I am.
@robertavila3328
@robertavila3328 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new to this site and your reviews are spot on but there are some problems with a few of the discs where I noticed distortion on maybe 3 of the discs, but still a great set,. I also have the 1978 set and the 82 set. I'll have to listen to them all to see which is best but that'll be sometime in the future, thx !
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
You're right about the distortion on some of the new discs. I think that because of their desire to match the sound of the originals, they had to cut some very loud which resulted in the distortion you hear. However, the same distortion is present on the originals. The '78 and '82 sets are quite different and I hope to review them at some point in the future. Thanks for watching!
@mikayelabazyan
@mikayelabazyan 2 күн бұрын
13:27 This rhetorical question I have sometimes been asking myself over the years of buying boxed set/archive editions of various bands/performers, usually followed by "I could provide better images/audios..." 🙂
@daveeaglestone548
@daveeaglestone548 3 жыл бұрын
Hi again my friend Can you do a video on the Beatles DAgostini Collection brought out a couple of years ago can you do a video on them Please Dave.
@ndrewwb
@ndrewwb 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the difference in the timings on some of the singles, I have no proof of this but I theorise that it may have actually been the original singles being cut a little too fast. Perhaps some were cut as close to 45rpm as their cutting system allowed at the time. My turntable is direct drive with manual speed adjustment and a built in strobe too and records have always sounded perfect on it, that is apart from some of my 1960s records that came from EMI, those all seem to play the tiniest bit faster than later 1970s/80s cuttings of the same albums, and sound faster than the digital versions of their respective albums too. I have no proof of that so please take that with a grain of salt, I don't know if the cutting systems of the time were direct drive or idler driven but if they were the latter then I suppose there's always a chance that's why. But my long winded ramble aside, this is an excellent video! Great job 👍
@derosa1989
@derosa1989 4 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@analoguecity3454
@analoguecity3454 4 жыл бұрын
I don't put too much stock into what people think, yeah, its good to hear an opinion! But people listen too much to others! I've had records where people said they suck, but when I spun them, they sounded great! And vice versa! Sound is objective, and everyone has their preferences that pleases their ears! Doesn't mean its going to be the same for you as someone else! Actually the original masters sound best, and imho ,sound quality has been going backwards since the inception of digital! 96k/24 bit is closer to the original!
@ROCKINGMAN
@ROCKINGMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed your Our Price T-shirt. I still have some original bags from the 80's.
@mahatmacote6478
@mahatmacote6478 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you reminded me to SUBSCRIBE, as I like these video reviews. Incidentally there were some (5?) export 45s made in England. Those won't have been in the box set.
@getaction
@getaction 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Great video! Question: would you recommend the 1st press of Paperback Writer if I told you that I like distortion & lo-fi? Thanks in advance!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely
@Rpkriz
@Rpkriz 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this incredibly informative video! I am curious as to whether any time difference existed for Love Me Do? I am curious if EMI deliberately slowed the transfer prior to cutting the 2019 single to better approximate the true playing speed of the original tape. Also, do you remember the time difference for Ask Me Why? Thanks in advance!!
@ronmartin89
@ronmartin89 4 жыл бұрын
The Capiphone Singles-Capitol Swirls and Apple singles involved-and an Capitol colorband label EP also coming with the LP program set on CD.Lp set on CD,singles and EP sets on both vinyl and CD!!
@mikeysaint4368
@mikeysaint4368 8 ай бұрын
I think Andrew did an excellent and painstaking job here, and hats (cap) off to him. While listening to The Beatles isn't exactly a hardship, to do so repeatedly whilst close listening is demanding, with all that getting up and down and carefully removing and returning the records to their sleeves. I received my boxset today, and couldn't be happier. The colourful and diverse sleeves from around the world make for a fascinating visual experience. Also, upon seeing sets from North Americans, it's interesting to note that there are differences in the sleeves and origin of certain discs. I'm looking forward to listening to my boxset, but it could be the one and only time. I don't want it to lose its pristine condition with repeated plays, and with both the mono and stereo Past Masters I'm not exactly going to be lacking in hearing these songs. Then there's the 1993 Red and Blue albums which I have, plus the expanded and remastered Red and Blue (2023) I got a few weeks ago. While I admit I'll only be playing the singles once or twice, I don't understand those who are buying it and never intend to remove the box from its shrink wrap. Someone I know on social media said he's had his unopened for nearly four years. I see little point in having sets like this purely for decoration, and being unable to even inspect the contents. I doubt the Singles Collection 2019 will become so rare that it'll be worth thousands in decades to come, so buying this for ornamental value, or being able to simply say you have it, seems pointless, and even silly. Each to their own, though: I hope he enjoys staring at his blue cube.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 8 ай бұрын
Great story! 😎
@Ricecooker64
@Ricecooker64 Жыл бұрын
Don't Actually own any Beatles UK 45s But I have a few UK Singles From Dusty and Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich. Compared to Digital Files The Singles kick them out of the Ballpark , The DD, D, B, M&T Single is very Bassy and is warm and very dynamic. The Dusty ones are like that as well. These all cost me 3 dollars each, a steal!
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved this even more if the 1976 set had been included in the comparisons. I personally think the 45s pressed from then until the late 80s were the best possible representation, either being the very same matrices used for the last contemporary pressing, or a new version of it (same lathes, same cutting engineers, same know how, same tapes, even the same stamper font for the matrix numbers in the run outs).
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
A video about the 1976 and 1982 sets is coming.
@shadshowadradna
@shadshowadradna 3 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, 39g is over 18% heavier than 33g. I guess it goes against the spirit of this set, but I wish they would release the singles as a set of 10"s, as they did with the Elvis re-releases a few years back. (Well it feels like a few years; it was probably more than a decade ago.) It would just be nice to hear them cut with the emphasis on sound quality rather than trying to emulate the not-too-great sound of the originals. It's worth bearing in mind that for all that these are the mixes as The Beatles wanted them, the band frequently complained about the lack of bass weight on their records compared with what they were hearing from US artists. But to _properly_ do anything about that, you really need to go back to the multitracks, because even the final masters, let alone the cutting tapes, would already be compromised. And of course, they don't have the multitracks for quite a few of these recordings.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've never belonged to this purist school of "these are the mixes the Beatles approved and so anything else is not authentic". I believe The Beatles just wanted things to sound the best they could within the limits of the technology of the time, not just in recording but in transmission (remember these records had to work well on AM radio too). I don't think any sane person would say that The Beatles would knowingly and deliberately want to freeze forever, in recording quality terms, their work based on 1960s standards, especially when what they were hearing in their original studio playbacks would have been head and shoulders above what the public would get at the end of it. Yes I know they often played acetates on cheap players to check them out, but that's because they knew most of their fans would be playing them on cheap players. But later on their fans had access to better. Ironically you could say a lot of kids also listen to music in poor settings, like on their mobile's built-in speakers, which leads to the same mastering decisions being taken for contemporary records today. But today's youngsters rarely listen to The Beatles I would say, but even when I go to a pub where the clientele are more used to hearing Jay Z or Béyonce, if the staff unceremoniously drop in something like The Beatles' Revolution (single version), it stops everyone in their tracks, believe me.
@bobsoldrecords1503
@bobsoldrecords1503 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Andrew. One odd thing about my first UK pressing of Paperback Writer is how thin the vinyl is. I've got an acrylic platter on my main TT. Even tracking at 1.75 grams, dropping the needle on it stops the record from spinning. It's the only sixties EMI single I have that does this.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bob. I've found that EMI singles overall are inferior in comparison to most other main UK labels of the time, both in sound and production quality.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I have two Paperback Writers, the one my dad bought at the time of release which has a solid (not push out) centre, and a push out centre copy that I bought myself years ago. The former is heavier if anything than usual, and the latter just the same as the other contemporary push-outs.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram I'm not sure I agree. I used to think that, but that was based on comparing badly beat-up and heavily played EMI 45s compared to barely played Decca 45s. I think comparing the "well playedness" quotient shows which record company had the upper hand at this time! Incidentally most Rolling Stones 45s show just how equally bad a Decca record would sound if played to death. And conversely, finding mint condition EMI 60s records shows that sound quality wise they're easily on a par with 90s pressings.
@BIPPP1
@BIPPP1 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great box set.But ,Unfortunately ,there has yet to be a vinyl box set UK reissue which includes the correct original mixes for each single.Thanks for pointing out the Please Please me/Ask Me Why Fail in this release.
@kevystead
@kevystead 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel :) Loving the reviews and Beatles Talk. I was kind of on the fence about buying this set as I too have many of the original pressing from the UK Parlophone Label. If the price is right Maybe I'll Buy it and keep it sealed lol
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome, Kevin. The singles box is a great set and stays faithful to the original UK recordings. Looks great on the shelf too ;)
@stevepost
@stevepost Жыл бұрын
Apple missed a trick with this set. To make it really worth buying they should have made them all in stereo, using rare versions where possible e.g the first stereo version of I Want To Hold Your Hand, as released in Australia in 1976 etc. My only dodgy single from the set was A Hard Day's Night, it jumped all over the place but I soon replaced it with a good copy.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
Here's an interesting thing though. EMI 45s in the first few years (1952-57) were actually true microgroove cuts, cut to 1980s standards with no dynamic compression. The grooves were very thin, with little loudness. It was all for the customer's amplifier to do. To begin with they were seen as a luxury format because most people, especially kids, were stuck with 78rpm phonographs. Only audiophiles bought early 45s and looked after them. During 1956-57 kids started to get bought for them, Dansettes and similar players that could play all speeds, but didn't have particularly great needles. It became clear that the microgrooves were easily damaged and caused a lot of records to be returned. Many early 45 matrices would skip or jump even when the records were new (leading to the coining of the term, "put a penny on the needle"). That's why from 1958 EMI and pretty much everyone else switched to coarse, deep grooves, widely spaced. Also compression and limiting tools became more plentiful in the studio and the record companies started to specify that cutting masters should always be compressed and limited. It's a shame that couldn't just have been done at the lathe stage, but that could have been to make sure the producer would always know what it was going to sound like before committing it to disc. So 1960s 45s mostly sound worse than 1950s 45s, deliberately so, mainly to take account of kid's portable record players (or cheaper adult players).
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Great post! Thanks for sharing.
@mbvideoselection
@mbvideoselection 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram Thanks... I've been an EMI junkie since I was small (and I was born in 1973 and grew up with my parents' record cabinet, later vinyl and cassette issues and everything in-between) soundhog.moonfruit.com
@DrSid11
@DrSid11 2 жыл бұрын
I think the "Please Please Me" version IS the correct one. Listen for the drop-out around the 1:47 mark...only heard on the 45.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 2 жыл бұрын
'Ask Me Why' on the original 45 is much drier.
@DrSid11
@DrSid11 2 жыл бұрын
@@Parlogram Yes, I was specifically referring to the song “Please Please Me”. I believe that is the correct version.
@thomasanderson3230
@thomasanderson3230 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! thank you!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Thomas. Thanks for watching.
@shiresongs
@shiresongs Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Parlogram
@Parlogram Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Paul!
@richardhawkins4621
@richardhawkins4621 4 ай бұрын
Most normal people cant tell the difference from the original 2 the new ones anyway you shouuldnt mess with the first press
@joanlorente1974
@joanlorente1974 2 жыл бұрын
Is a true fact the difference in timing between the first UK singles and latter versions which run slower in comparison. For example, She loves you, I want to hold your hand, Can't buy me love, From me to you and so on. Still I prefer the original Parlophone UK 45 rpm. Great video, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to noticed that fact regarding the timing. Thanks!
@chrissnyder7181
@chrissnyder7181 Жыл бұрын
I bought the box set two times and only a few of the 45s sounded good to me. And I love the beatles.
@MickeyHamHam
@MickeyHamHam 4 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome, one question only, where can I get original pressed 45 copies? I got the box recently and I agree there are another versions which sound better i. e. Mono Masters
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Mickey. The original UK 45s are cheap and plentiful on eBay. The only expensive ones are the red label 'Love Me Do' and 'Please, Please Me'.
@BradVinylRush
@BradVinylRush 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this review and purchased this box set after viewing. One question: which of the records are mono vs stereo? I didn’t find that info in the included booklet
@rukusband
@rukusband 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciated this one Andrew ............and ALL your Videos . I would be interested to know how the Sound Quality of the USA JUKEBOX 45 s stack up to the Original s .
@daveeaglestone548
@daveeaglestone548 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew Can not find a Beatles hard days night White jacket anywhere I think it’s form October 1972 EMI 2 box help Dave.
@jesserussell7242
@jesserussell7242 2 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with you Andrew I think the album covers 445 cover should be used with greater detail so that way the pictures can be very open and not highly pixelated as that one shot that you showed. And I think that all of the singles should have an open air to them sound wise and that way all the songs can have more life to them. I love the Beatles singles collection exit which is great especially considering the fact that real love and prayers of bird are from a digital copy I think that’s the only 45 and it’s not from the original 60s but the whole box that is fantastic and the packaging is good too and using different 45s from different countries with genius as well.
@SethRomano
@SethRomano 2 жыл бұрын
Wait - there’s a difference between the single and the album version of the song “please please me”?? I know the mono and stereo versions are different edits/takes. But single and mono album of that track are not the same??
@idaslpdhr
@idaslpdhr 3 жыл бұрын
I have a complete set of first press singles that I bought when they came out all EX, and I bought the box set in the 1980's all played once, I don't think I'm going to bother doing that all again with this doggy looking box set, I prefer my originals anyway
@michaelrochester48
@michaelrochester48 3 жыл бұрын
Question, does the single version of “day tripper” include the drop off in volume toward the end? Where it famously can be heard better in the stereo album version?
@jordielias
@jordielias Жыл бұрын
I Purchased some year ago the Singles and EP box sets on CD, what is your opinion on those and particularly the singles box set, do they have the same mastering as the original vinyl singles?
@Parlogram
@Parlogram Жыл бұрын
The 2019 set sounds very close to the originals.
@PaulinaAngel
@PaulinaAngel 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still on the mend on whether to get them or not, I rather seek the early 80’s box set because those look much better. My ultimate beef with this new set, as well as the 2019 Abbey Road remix issue is the new Apple label on the record, the bottom of the Apple looks very tacky, disappointment on the Art Department. It seems with that pixelated picture sleeve you’ve shown, the quality control of the Art Dept is getting very lazy.
@davidmorgen4558
@davidmorgen4558 2 жыл бұрын
The only way to hear the beatles is in mono on an old pair of Klilsch Heresy as loud as your Ears can stand!
@yonkieponkie
@yonkieponkie 2 жыл бұрын
dont you use a puck on your turntable to improve the sound?
@johnvrabec9747
@johnvrabec9747 3 жыл бұрын
I guess they should have given you a ring first to sort out the true originals. I never had any Beatles 45's so I will not be able to compare. My first Beatles record I bought was the Abbey Road album, 3rd hand lol I do love the mono masters.
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo 2 жыл бұрын
what price is the box set? i have about half of the beatles original singles and have had them since the 60s so are very scratched and think it might be cool to have a new set to listen to :)
@djray369
@djray369 2 жыл бұрын
I have almost all of the original US 45s. They sound great with my mono cart. It would’ve been interested to hear the difference (if any) between the new set and the originals using a mono cartridge.
@FarrellCapper
@FarrellCapper 9 ай бұрын
My only incentive to get this collection was to own the Free As A Bird/Real Love disc but I'm not to sure. I've been trying to figure out what would be the optimum pressings for those songs
@theo9952
@theo9952 2 жыл бұрын
I have The Beatles Past Masters Vol.1 and Vol.2, with every Beatles single in them. I have the 2009 remastered equivalent too. I wouldn't buy that box set even if i could afford to spend money for music I already have, re-marketed and sold in the ancient and faulty format of a bunch of 45rpm small vinyl records. But if I had all those original 45s I would sell them. In near-mint condition they can fetch over 25 euros each. And with the sum, I would buy the 50th anniversary White Album remix. Now THAT is worth spending money for, as far as I am concerned. On CD of course.
@Bliggick
@Bliggick Жыл бұрын
Well if they didn't use the original single mixes of Please Please Me and Ask Me Why where can you get a modern release of these mixes, either on CD or vinyl?
@Parlogram
@Parlogram Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there are no modern issue of those mixes.
@daveeaglestone548
@daveeaglestone548 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew Love the work you do on Beatles vides I am a big Beatles fan and collector Please can do a video on the Beatles records EMI one box records please Dave.
@spotsill
@spotsill 3 жыл бұрын
If you want flat none warped disks use a record clamp and make digital copies . It will add wear to the label but you can’t have everything.
@trevorbrown2813
@trevorbrown2813 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased my set on day of release. Actually played them all fro the first time yesterday. Yes they do have some warped records but some tend to slip or slow down which i have read reviews from other that do the same especially paperback Writer, but with some adjustments i can get them to play correctly. Like pressing down a bit harder or placing record clamp on them. Can you do a review on the Capitol coloured juke box singles fro m the 90"s. Thanks agin for you videos.
@Bubblepoppin
@Bubblepoppin 9 ай бұрын
Any reason why Help! Sounds the way it does?
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 9 ай бұрын
One reason was that it was recorded in 2 different studios. Backing at Abbey Road and vocals at CTS.
@manuelmendoza6096
@manuelmendoza6096 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. My only suggestion is you add a de esser or re eq the audio. The sibalance in these videos make them unlistenable after a while.
@Parlogram
@Parlogram 3 жыл бұрын
Noted. I'm working on improving the audio.
@spacy6604
@spacy6604 3 жыл бұрын
I got the box from Walmart for 120 I think
@frederickfranchi6408
@frederickfranchi6408 3 жыл бұрын
$128.00 from Amazon 😀 got lucky!!!
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