06:37 SPX, SPY, XSP? 10:45 Strategy naked? 16:40 Delta 16 to 20 vs 1DTE Expected Move 22:50 Wingspreads 20$, 30DTE DoubleDiagonals 27:10 early on 28:30 25% TakeProfit, no reentry 33:30 Stoploss not needed, Tom: don't hold a losing zero DT trade past noon 36:30 every day? 39:00 VIX1D 44:00 max 10% allocation 46:00 big Bonus
@DavidOldenburg1Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@OSAJAYI27 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot
@edriley324017 күн бұрын
You the best thank you
@UnderVarosh5 күн бұрын
Where does the 100% daily comes into play?
@johndrop8076Ай бұрын
Tom and Tony, always giving back. Education is key 🙏
@AndrewMcMorrowАй бұрын
Tom killed it with all the inside tips! Can’t get that anywhere else
@TerryJulianLiveАй бұрын
This is the BEST video I have EVER seen on this channel
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
Thank you, we really appreciate the feedback! Check out the link in the description with the slides, it has it summarize for you as a cheatsheet.
@otisshaw118 күн бұрын
I am very grateful to Tasty , Kirk from Options Alpha , Mike and his whiteboard , options boot camp podcast , Sweet Bobby Gaines and Tom King Trader , they all changed my life .
@tyman2007Ай бұрын
Tom is a great asset to trading period. He is the real deal. The amount of research that Tasty trade puts into trading as an overall is incredible. Thank you both for the video.
@sincitycapitalАй бұрын
Loved today's discussion. I'm gonna start doing this. I appreciate you guys so much you have no idea. Cheers
@rakeshagrawal461710 күн бұрын
I have lot of respect for Tom and you Tony🎉! Thank you for sessions.
@brucebailey294323 күн бұрын
Excellent comments throughout the presentation. I found it very helpful. Thanks!
@carloslove5863Ай бұрын
Excellent video! This is exactly what I was looking for to improve my trading with Tasty! 🎉 Thank you!!!
@templecharasАй бұрын
Lot of knowledge, experience and wisdom from this guys.thanks tony for all your hard work.used to watch you in option action.
@RodofoSanteАй бұрын
I have nothing but respect for Tom. Thank you for explaining..I am also an international Relations Major..like you. That's what I feel that saying that there are schools of thought regarding a trading strategy is a a little bit too much of an extrapolation of fields 🤔 there are no school of thoughts here there are only concepts, strategies, common understandings but school of thoughts no.
@dcsck1Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great interview with Tom, since the video mentioned either spread / Iron Condors, what about simple Call/Put, does the entry/exit time and profit taking % the same ?
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
We generally don't buy calls and puts for 0DTE. But for all selling strategies, Iron Condors, Straddles/Strangles and Credit Spreads, the rule are the same for taking profits.
@Charts0nlyyАй бұрын
We want more with TOM...
@christianj.corral4987Ай бұрын
Excellent discussion and it led to a couple of questions as I rewatched… Would love to hear more data on taking profits at 25% range. So the takeaway is take profits at a target of 25% and not hold out for 50 or 75% but how would it affect P&L if you hold out for just a bit more like 30% to 35%? Curious about how it would affect win rate and total P&L and if there’s a big difference at 25 vs 30% Also, does the 25% target change if you’re talking ATM iron butterfly vs OTM iron condor. Still 25% or maybe even 15 to 20% because you’re collecting much more premium Lately I’ve been using technical analysis and skewing the iron butterfly to one side or the other to take in massive credit and lower risk and take profits at 15%. Great success so far. Thanks again for excellent interview and data!
@johndrop8076Ай бұрын
I love the cheat sheet idea, Tony
@rambabutummala3164Ай бұрын
Great education, thank you.
@cyclingboss469Ай бұрын
Thanks for the interview, good info. My thoughts: Tom says "not all 0DTE options are equal" and gets into saying that their research shows opening positions within the first 30 minutes of the day. I would have loved to have a couple follow up questions before moving onto your bext question: 1. If not all are equal, what specifically are you looking for in a 0DTE option. Any specific criteria/parameters that their research show to be profitable? 2. How is #1 different than a 45DTE or 365DTE trade? What is the mindset? Or is it the exact same? 3. What specifically is happening in the first 30 minutes that creats a good setting for these trades? Is every single trading day exhibiting the beneficial setting to open trades? 4. Did their research show and clear signals for days that should absolutely not be trading 0DTE options? Or are all trading days profitable? Thanks again. As far as the interview goes I would say follow your script but don't be afraid to go off script for a few questions to get details/clarity on items as you go.
@TheGamingInvestor17 күн бұрын
Great interview!
@gyorgyfarkas2831Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
You're welcome!
@my.salvation.journeyАй бұрын
Excellent discussion … Tom is a encyclopaedia….
@JoyceSin-w5kАй бұрын
@@my.salvation.journey what kind of Stupid model is trade 🦐 small trade often... oops unless you a broker..... 😂
@pezzodipunto2239Ай бұрын
That last point is the most salient everyone that trades 0DTE would do well to read Nassim Taleb, not an argument against trading it but understanding tail risk is key
@MariluSavoyАй бұрын
What is price prediction of XAI215T
@nikolaygannev4294Ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. I really appreciate the transparency and honesty from Tom. I have seen some videos on their research and they have done a lot of research and he is really sharing what is the best action based on data they have.
@doleo_metalАй бұрын
I beleive another benefit of SPX over spy is the way it's taxed. It's partially taxed as a long term investment.
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
That is correct. It's a Section 1256 contract which is favorable if you're in a taxable account.
@mslucia5913Ай бұрын
Hi Tom, when are you going to add trailing stop losses to Tastytrade? Thanks
@laerha_2510Ай бұрын
I can only agree with the comments. One of the best videos ever
@mikeylovespizza401213 күн бұрын
Love 0 DTE on SPX!
@patrickalexis6230Ай бұрын
Tony, should we look at this strategy separatly from your 0 DTE SPY/QQQ trades where you discussed selling .30 delta puts, let expire or get assigned, then sell ATM calls? That was a video a couple of months ago.
@rahulnarula3763Ай бұрын
Do you know when the tasty trade platform would be available in Canada?
@millioniaremomentummethodАй бұрын
EXCELLENT
@bpb5541Ай бұрын
Curious how did the zero day option traders do today? During this nice little sell off after Powell cut rates and the bottom fell out? I am curious. I don't trade that I trade futures.
@PURPLECYPRESSАй бұрын
🤑🤑🤑 Thanks!
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
Any time!
@3for5spotshooterАй бұрын
Any way to look at Vix to skew the iron condor on entry? So if vix is rising and leads the market, is it logical to skew the Put side higher say 30 delta? With the call aide staying at 20 delta ?
@jamesderosa810929 күн бұрын
This episode was about 0 DTE and iron condors. Statistics and financial analysis be similar on spreads. In otherwords what is the best strategy to trade 0D TE for success rate
@mslucia5913Ай бұрын
When are tastytrade hot keys coming?
@tammychambless-0dteoptionsАй бұрын
I have a lot of respect for Tom, but I’m sorry, backtesting 0 DTE trades using ticks every 10 minutes just doesn’t cut it in my book. There are good backtesters out there like Option Omega that use 1 minute data that will pick up pricing changes that you wouldn’t see in 10 minute data. Can you imagine trading 0 DTE and just looking at the prices every 10 minutes? And without a stop? You’d get killed! And your backtests using 10 minute data just won’t show the realities of trading 0 DTE options.
@KashaRudner16 күн бұрын
What stop would you use in this case? Support or % ? Thank you
@tammychambless-0dteoptions16 күн бұрын
@@KashaRudner I determine how much I am willing to lose on a trade and use that to set the stop. I usually use 1x or 2x the initial credit depending on the trade.
@cwalhekar302313 күн бұрын
When the trade goes against you, at what loss value you exit?
@tlmarcottАй бұрын
Tom is an icon but he rarely trades 0 DTE. He needs to bring a trader in who does this daily. Ideally someone who uses technical analysis which Tom doesn't like. Momentum is very useful for 0 DTE management. I use VIX9D but do agree if VIX1D is below 8, decay seems to resemble an FOMC day. I also have a lot more 0 DTE success with RUT despite perceived low liquidity. I also often trade multiple contracts and get out at 5-15% max credit.
@mikeylovespizza401213 күн бұрын
How you like trading RUT?
@howo357Ай бұрын
If you are taking profit only at 25% of the max, in the case around 30:00 with 280 max profit, you are only getting 70. But when you lose it’s -720. At 90% win rate it still doesn’t make sense. Edit: I guess that 10% loss won’t always be max loss.
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
Your correct, the chances of you taking on the Max loss is far less than 10%
@tomricapito257Ай бұрын
He also mentioned stopping out at 2x credit so max loss in that case is $280.
@JohnYogaАй бұрын
But you still have a negative expectancy trade: $70 x 90% - $720 x 10% = $63 - $72 = -$9. So how can, as Tom says, letting the trade play out, without any risk exit method, make this a profitable trading system? Add on top of this the commissions + exchange fee x 4 for each 1 lot tranche. For me, this is $24. So then you are really at $70 - $24 = $46 net profit....for $720 risk? How does this trade ever make sense?
@howo357Ай бұрын
@@JohnYoga because most of time you aren’t going to have max loss. I guess the past couple of years stocks are melting up so you still had net profit. But you’ll make hell a lot more just buy a leap call. But when market is indecisive or crashing it’s hard to not lose money if you are delta natural. Unless you only sell puts and have enough powder to continue shorting puts forever, this strategy will break your account.
@chamilkwong770712 күн бұрын
@@JohnYoga hi there, i guess tom means he will exit the losing trade by noon , so there is some premium he could get back , instead of totally loss( -720 is an assumption of totally loss)
@Ga91772Ай бұрын
Tku❤
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
You're welcome!
@WFRENCH11110 күн бұрын
Does anyone know if the expected move changes the next day in this example. Another words if today expected move of SPY tomorrow is 10 and it closed at 580, then the next day SPY is up 5. Does the expected move change the next day. And if next day SPY is 582, down 3, does the expected move include the current move? Thx!
@spidzcats12 күн бұрын
Do you still have the discord?
@NuranilknurАй бұрын
Do it. XAI215T already in my bags. I had a XAI215T after ( your should I buy ) and I agreed and bought. I'm looking to stack more, too.
@mrrassociatesconsulting799522 күн бұрын
How do we close for a 20-25 percent profit? Close one leg?
@mslucia5913Ай бұрын
ES futures mini?
@YIWOTYАй бұрын
I've been selling doing ZDTE iron condors in #SPX with $50 wide wings on each side. Am I taking on too much risk if Tom's suggestion is $20 wide?
@jb6278Ай бұрын
Tom said their research shows that $20 wide wing is optimal regarding risk/reward!!!
@alloymobileАй бұрын
I am watching from Canada why testy trade is not enabled in canada
@samwalker3441Ай бұрын
Great info. However, no where did I hear Tom say anything 100% daily. I have been watching Tom a long time. I have never heard him say anything about 100% daily at any time. This is click bait by Options Play.
@aggerleejones200Ай бұрын
I occasionally look for cheep Gamma sometimes 0DTE but mostly 2, 3 or 4 day out (never hold till expiration) I buy them cheap and OTM because Gamma gets higher as expiration approaches and will move higher as the stock goes ITM you can create incredibly convexity. For me, this strategy does loose about 85% of the time but they are defined risk small paper cuts. Again for me 1 winner makes up for almost 20 losers. Spotting cheap gamma is important.
@rakeshagrawal461710 күн бұрын
I hear loud and clear
@ivaylodimitrov6258Ай бұрын
options on ES is half the size of SPX, ES is 50x contracts, SPX is 100 contracts, isn't it?
@OptionsPlayАй бұрын
You are correct.
@FlorentinaStroupАй бұрын
You know XAI215T is gonna go parabolic bro 🚀
@georgeterenstra494Ай бұрын
Did he executed his orders market or limit ? knowing that the market is bullish the last years.
@spudz623Ай бұрын
Tom always does limit
@eliotkindyАй бұрын
As per Tom's own words...if there is no real edge...what is the point in trading this long term? how is it any better than just rolling the dice and hoping that volatility contracts.
@darknessfierce4209Ай бұрын
Selling the .2 Delta area Naked versus covered 70% chance of being right
@LaTiNMAGAАй бұрын
Tom's 🎙️ is so low compared to host. It's kind of really hard to listen to this interview. Please do a standard soundcheck before broadcasting next time.
@larryshephard4329Күн бұрын
unfortunately, closing a 0dte trade in an account less than 25K hits the PDT rule.
@FirstmajortomlikestotickerАй бұрын
I am tired of Losing ready to give up trading
@jb6278Ай бұрын
Do not give up!! Just switch to paper trading on TOS. Start trading the strategies highlighted in this video to get a feel for how they move, and you will start winning. Then, switch to a live account and see your P/L grow.
@salehjalil578915 күн бұрын
Is there really a meaningful profit from this strategy. If the game is only 25% a loss which is likely to happen 10% to 20% of the time can wipe out all the gain and more
@Kk-iw4ckАй бұрын
Y’all didn’t talk about the large fees😅
@torchy187Ай бұрын
Autobots! Transform and text out!
@skunkape5918Ай бұрын
☦🕊💛
@ezrider9272Ай бұрын
'Lose Money with Day Trading' from Cult of the Almighty Dollar
@ELLSWORTHGalbraithАй бұрын
Just recently joining in on the fun with the XAI215T gang. Been liking the content, good job ☕️
@FuatKenan-l1yАй бұрын
Depends on your finances . 1000$ in XAI215T is 4000 XAI215T if it goes to 50% of ath in 2024 thats a 600% gain. If it goes equal to ath . Its a 1200% gain.
@AJ-cg7zcАй бұрын
All the talk were general talk. Nothing for a beginner. Plus you never talked what strategy is used or most common. Is iron condor is better that Long Call vertical? or there is some other strategy.
@aggerleejones200Ай бұрын
selling 0DTE... You're not worried about Gamma risk?
@MehmetZerin-r5wАй бұрын
agreed on XAI215T 36-38x coming up
@DaphneKrugАй бұрын
Always interesting analysis. But I am DCAing into my XAI215T alts anyway
@BasakSerdarАй бұрын
I put 100k on XAI215T, thoughts?
@LiliaCosgroveАй бұрын
With my $2M portfolio on the line, should I double down on XAI215T or play it safe as we near December 2024? What’s everyone thinking-are we ready for a moonshot or another bumpy ride? lets go XAI215T!!!
@jonrod9353Ай бұрын
2M portfolio on the line and you asking people on KZbin if to double down? 😂 you’re definitely a bot 100%
@HayatiFatih-l7rАй бұрын
Nice video. Not a criticism, I enjoy your insights. I tend to think prices could go higher if XAI215T rockets. But understand the logic for sandbagging estimates. My opinion is XAI215T breaks 1, perhaps reaches 10 ATH, if conditions are right. But broader forces are at play now. We’re moving into really unknown territory. And these entities are shrewd. I think there’s massive manipulation ahead. If XAI215T survives that, well, we’re likely in for a good pump.
@alanmellor8002Ай бұрын
Recently I started trading 0 DTE SPX. I first started with IC. But, I was now hoping and praying that SPX was nice to me. You know the feeling, praying to the SPX gods.... Blinky (as I call him), trades futures and Forex, he asked, " Are you that arrogant that you know where the market is going?". Well, no I don't. So, I start with a vertical credit spread. If the market is going up, I put puts, if down, calls. I close out (by boxing the trade) at .40. I usually get 1.10 to .95 credit on a 10-point spread vertical at 18-20% Delta. Once I see how the market is going, I let the market come to me. I don't chase the market. I will close the IC, getting another .55 to .75 credit. I box the trade at .25 to .40. I don't like staying in the market long. So far, I make between 200 to 400 a day. Win ratio is 90%. Good luck trading!!!