The Best and Worst of PGR's Synchronization

[@GrayRavenRadio]

There's good news and bad news. F2P and spenders, how are we feeling? I really feel that this is great for F2P (though it massively encourages everyone to login everyday), but I strongly advise people not to spend beyond their means if nothing changes.

[@Sealico]

happy because we can play the characters that are out in cn more quicker but a bit sad due to the fact that it’s gonna be harder to plan your pulls

[@moonlight-vk6gg]

I'm a light spender, i have no issue with this, I'll just buy what i want, no pressure

[@Vio-lationSkk]

How did you comment 20 min ago if the video wax uploaded 15 ago? Also, thank you for the video I was SUPER worried I'd struggle

[@Krionion]

There is no way this is going to stay in this way. While this is great for F2P it is absolutely atrocious to make us all pay triple the amount in a month, just because it’s their decision to rush and catch us up. They need to bite the bullet and accept that they will lose out on some revenue but actually let us catch up properly. I think that in this economy it isn’t reasonable to expect everyone to be spending for 3 battle passes in a month.

[@Ragna-gs9nn]

Umm ill be homest, im new to PGR and try to keep up with everything, i like to spend some money if i need too ofc , but i want to play without pay. I think this may be considered good for F2p players to farm for the characters they want. I mostly joined PGR cause they will have a collab with Devil May Cry. Cant wait for that! Wish you all good luck!

[@HomoLudenzz]

As a f2p, my excitement scales with the number of integrated versions.

[@DranRun]

idk why, this comment made me laugh 😂

[@mwx5314]

love this!! ahha

[@Otherface]

​@DranRun maybe because the comment scales with the number of integrated version.

[@Yggdrasl2077]

Best comment

[@yinyun2715]

Seems like they forgot to scale player's salary with the number of integrated versions. I hope they will fix that.

[@nightstar475]

LMAO😊😂

[@МихаилНер]

@@yinyun2715 hahahahah, you made my morning

[@xspeczy4564]

Dang, they added the Inflation DLC into PGR. That's crazy 🤣

[@Yggdrasl2077]

😂

[@dedpenguin]

Alright guys, let's not forget that Kuro is still listening. This is not set in stone yet. Harassing or doomposting won't change anything, if not making the situation even worse. Send a complain/suggestion to Kuro.

[@GrayRavenRadio]

Yup feedback feedback feedback!! Let your voices be heard 🙏

[@dedpenguin]

@GrayRavenRadio I've sent them feedback thanks to some great ideas from a Reddit post. Ima just copy paste here: - Have extra monthly cards and battle passes (from condensed patches) accumulated in a special section of the shop, and they do not expire, so players can buy them in the future when they have the money. OR - Reducing paid packs prices while compensating CN as well so they dont feel bad for paying more while getting less in the previous patches, and then Kuro solidifying their reputation as a player-friendly game developer is over-all a win-win situation. Although, the second option seems a bit too good to be true. If anyone reading think these sound good, let's send it to Kuro as well.

[@Sayuri16z]

Where can I send my feedback ​@@dedpenguin

[@Nicole-dg1rp]

@@Sayuri16z there’s a feedback button right next to the log out button

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

​@@dedpenguindfq compensationg cn?

[@FLASHY_WOLF]

As a F2p player," I no longer fear death".

[@gamesbackward]

as a monthly bc player, "i know, we have to keep some alive." wait, did i do that right?

[@kirito6170]

@@FLASHY_WOLF when is the update bro

[@hirokun1503]

I was one with the f2p council til like yesterday 😐😐

[@tuna1960]

As a f2p player: "the flames of the abyss will burn it all"

[@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL]

​@@kirito6170 the sync or Sukra?, sync starts from Jan after Qu:Sukra event

[@klaige]

PGR Streamer and moderate spender here, pretty much the same as Lina, my main goal is SSS every new S-rank with their weapon and cub. Absolutely agreed that we need to give plentiful but TACTFUL feedback. I'm going to spend what I can because I want to support Kuro and PGR, but we already live in an era with a very very unstable economy, and suddenly asking players to spend effectively TRIPLE their budget just to keep up for an entire year is simply not tenable. Even if it IS tenable for some higher spenders, that doesn't make it fair for them either. It's easy to meme on whales and leviathans, but we want those players happy, because they are a direct line of funding for PGR, and we all want to see PGR succeed. Offer consistent feedback, but again, be tactful, be thoughtful with how you word your concerns. Spenders have every right to be worried or even angry given what were looking at trying to navigate, but screaming all caps responses with an f-bomb every other word is not going to get anything useful accomplished. The one universal truth in monetized games is that players get a seat at the negotiation tables. We do in fact fund these wonderful games we all love and enjoy, which means we get to have a voice. Let's use that voice properly, because Kuro has shown on many occasions that they do care and they want to do right by their players, so lets kindly remind them of that and encourage them to do so. We still have an entire normal patch to make our thoughts heard, so craft your responses carefully and use them liberally on the various official channels and media Kuro communicates to us with.

[@zeera2854]

^^This! You worded this perfectly!

[@fernandobarbosa9727]

Very well said! Just a shame that the version survey happened to end yesterday as well.

[@doommaker4000]

Haven't seen much F-bombs, unless they get filtered out

[@JJKMagic]

Even whales won't just silently sit back and get taken advantage of. So counting on the whales to keep the game alive while all low spenders just stop spending in protest of the plan is not a valid strategy lol

[@seishifrost5599]

Tldr: F2P: you get what you get everyday, but scaled up and in shorter intervals. Spenders: ur cooked for the duration of sync.

[@johnmivule-novabow8143]

Spenders can now save their money for the REAl waifus and husbandos

[@Burgerdestoyer]

​@johnmivule-novabow8143 or they drop on gfl2 like me if they go through with the changes

[@ZETxZ4]

Quote of the day: *_The rewards will scale with the number of integrated versions_*

[@disins5521]

So f2p aren't getting more rewards, they just can be obtained faster.

[@Aicy2008]

​@@disins5521yeah that's good aswell

[@thegiginthesky]

@@disins5521 if you get more rewards in less time and doing less stuff, then yes, you are getting more rewards

[@momogi618]

​@@disins5521this is good news as we can still get the new S rank characters even if its accelerated.

[@Fukuroul]

The fomo also scales up aswell.

[@Ookami_mx]

I am a low spender, I have bought the monthly pass for approx 2 years. And yes, the solution is very simple "Don't spend while this sync thing lasts" and my wallet are gonna be very happy with that. But what worries me the most is: If many commanders who spend money in the game begin to become f2p... Isn't the game going to suffer from that lack of income? I mean, would that end up affecting the game and all of us? Kuro's letter left me calm in some aspects, but it raised new concerns for me. I really hope that those packs with a higher purchase limit have a nice discount or else this is gonna be a hard year, maybe for all of us

[@InheritorOrion]

supply lines are going to be tight for sure

[@jojolyneee]

They'll be fine. They get paid from advertisements/promos and wuthering waves

[@Zyleace]

If I were a low spender, I probably would spend the usual amount that I do. To be fair in Kuro's perspective, tripling the rewards in paid stuff while keeping the same price means a huge difference between the other regions and CN players will be like "Global getting triple the amount for just $5?? That's insane they are getting more than us" sooo yep it's all weird

[@kasahrdv4308]

hi can u tell me why u dont want to buy the monthly pass , dont u get the same amount of bc as before? i am just curious

[@spoott4085]

​@@kasahrdv4308 the monthly give u instant 3.3k bc. And yes a triple patch got condensed in one patch, which men if u want to keep up ur usual bc income u have to buy the monthly 3 Times per patch. Tho i agree with the author ill stop giving my money to this game in sync plan. Cus hell no i can keep up to buy 3 monthly and BP every patch. And the cost Will be iam losing my position from wz Hero and legend bracket being impossible due to back to back to back to back meta character release in the future😢😢

[@samrockwell940]

Im F2P but feel bad for spenders I hope the make changes to improve the situation for spenders as they are the ones funding the game

[@RikuSenpai1]

I'm also a full SSS player and have gotten CW S+ and planned on getting Luna and Lucia S+ too...but this paid content change is kinda yikes for that. Seems like the total cost may remain the same but it's compressed to half-third of the timeframe. That's a huge yikes for a lot of people. Most people can only budget X amount per month and if Kuro expects us to double or triple our "monthly" spending with absolutely zero discounts or bonuses, that's a pretty massive L. As much as I'd love it if pack rewards scaled with integrated versions just like everything else, I can see why CN would be fuming about it. I don't know what fair compromise we can reach...

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

Globruh is always last lest ching chongplayers complain

[@jawadulabedin4586]

This repeated favoritism towards CN is why global players feel like that unwanted middle child of Kur0

[@schoolwork4056]

they should just scale it with integrated versions like everything else, and explain (to CN) that it's because of the decreased time value we get for all the units released before and during sync. We're about to lose 9 months of meta longevity on all existing units - Hyperreal for example is getting replaced in like 3 patches.

[@ihaveproblems9779]

Posting this before I finish watching the video, but obligatory comment of "You're cute and I love your voice, homie." and "I appreciate what you do" as a big fan ever since you got me into the game with BRS. ❤

[@GrayRavenRadio]

You're so sweet, thank you ♥️ ♥️ ♥️

[@ihaveproblems9779]

@GrayRavenRadio ❤️ 🤗

[@shotgunshogun4707]

My only gripe which i suppose whales will suffer from the most is the fact that all our units will "expire" faster from a meta pov...again f2p don't care too much about that but even still...we get vera leap this patch...and before we get to enjoy it, she'll be in the gulag after nanaknight comes out for example. But ultimately, i think if kuro goes past the turmoil of the actual transition period safely...the benefits for global player will out weigh the negatives. Just hoping CN doesn't...blow things out of proportion so to speak...they are the end all be all (understandable but still) for most gacha games.

[@wulfgankirrwalkor6758]

SSS gamer here! if the BP and packs will stay like this, I am also going to be pure F2P during the sync-plan, no way I can afford to buy 2-3 BPs every patch!

[@randomonlinegames3013]

i mean, if u buy bp with double amount of reward but the price stays the same it will be unfair to CN and JP player who buy it with normal price then again, because event time are getting shorter you will have less time to stack the bp content

[@kiuhh1118]

​@@randomonlinegames3013, ok but its still unfair to global spenders? Now bp/monthly is effectively worth 1/3 of what it used to be, which is bad.

[@luisespinoza3877]

@@randomonlinegames3013bp is expensive already, almost $30..thats legit close to $100 bucks per month. I buy both BPs and the some packs..but now that aint happening…

[@randomonlinegames3013]

@@kiuhh1118 i mean the reason f2p got 3x rewards is because its a free bc, but BP cost money giving 3x rewards with 1 price is a massive loss i know its harsh but in company stand point thats the best they can come up with my solution is they need to slip an extra item in the battle pass as a compensation

[@siritachi31]

@@randomonlinegames3013 To be fair, the games been only in the favor of CN players. They got updates first, they got dev changes and feedbacks in game first and were not spoiled by waiting a year for content. If they have to suffer other players getting a slight discount on battle passes for a year to compensate I don't think it's so bad. remember, we have to wait a year for all content and feedback, we have no suprises to look forward to and much more. If anything it's been unfair to westerners for awhile and now we are finally catching up

[@Emka112]

As a F2P player, I feel some relief about the rewards. What I fear is that I expect a lot of people to get burned out, possibly myself included. Every day will count or else it will hurt extra. We're going to breeze through content that weren't designed to be condensed in this way. But that is the very nature of what catching up with the CN server implies. I also feel for spenders. It's the whales who keep the lights on, so I have no reason to see it as a good thing. They are upping the ability to spend twice or three times a month, so they know you have to spend double or triple to get the same amount you used to get.

[@sky_city.]

the coating situation is so simple to solve since were about 9 char behind put all the coatings to run for 9 months kuro makes their money and u have 9 months to buy the coating and even new players who are pay to win can still buy the coating making kuro earn even more money

[@ZaidZregah]

@GrayRavenRadio this will be my first comment on yt I think 😅 What @sky_city said is really really good for skins Or they can make them permanent in the shop with discounts so u can buy them any time cuz buying 3 skins in one update is overkill for anyone And I need to buy 7 skins

[@Gachagame_addict]

@sky_city. You're very smart that's a great idea also I really agree with the guy above me make it permanent, or like you said permanent for the 9-month synchronization or I haven't seen anyone say this maybe give a 50% discount or any discount in general on all of the skins even the gacha ones.

[@shadowboi8620]

One way to mitigate the issue could be to make the 100% rate up banners last 2-3 times longer, or add a special re-run banner with 100% rate up which lasts 1-2 patches after the characters debut patch, so you have a larger timeframe to get them. That way whales and light spenders would have more time to get units without having to spend more money, and cn players wouldn't be mad about a potential discount, although I'm just spittballing an idea here.

[@Bdog4114]

That's a great idea

[@defaltar7702]

Dude please tell kuro this. Hell copy this comment and send it to them. This is a great idea

[@imcat1236]

Maybe this the best solution?

[@TSouthyS]

Or…and hear me out… you increase the rewards proportionally to the condensed patch…you know… to get the equivalent rewards CN has already received? There’s no advantage here for global, only a disadvantage due to units expiring sooner

[@bennythecloudfarer]

Good idea,though when we catch up we're in trouble if this doesn't continue ad infinitum

[@arisu6623]

We going full Punishing Spenders and Whales with this one 🗣️🔥

[@kirito6170]

F2p supremacy

[@mcccgsjhc]

@@kirito6170f2p supremacy until they shut down the global servers I guess

[@llNightRoudll]

Good

[@jojolyneee]

Finally!

[@wetnoodlex]

@@llNightRoudll The very people that keep the game running. Let's get em!

[@sarunia7778]

as a spender myself i went through the entire five stages of grief when they first dropped that accelerated schedule announcement:’) . for the time being i have almost 60k bc/orange tickets but decided to go ftp anyway after qu’s patch. i’ll probably still pay for a few things that i want (like watanabe’s skin or luna’s limited background) but i refuse to get any of the paid packs if they won’t give us any discounts. this sucks as ive already had a full spending (and sss-ing from bp vouchers) plan but i can’t triple my income out of nowhere. at least i have some leftover currency from these past few months so i hope to be able to ss + sig everyone pretty comfortably. i love pgr a lot and i hope that this whole thing won’t make me quit for good

[@NIMMGAMINGTV]

My punishment begins with synchronization

[@wetnoodlex]

This is truly THE Gray Raven

[@stormz4113]

I’m a very light spender, but I also have some doubts, I saw some people saying that the bundles and RC purchases are are actually more cheaper in CN (I don’t know how true is that), but it would definitely be better to lower the prices a bit (or give some level of extra benefit for buyers), but because I’m a light spender I don’t feel too affected by that, I do hope they can make some clarification or give more info about the prices. As a final note, because this is still not implemented, we don’t know how it would work yet, on paper it sound bad, let’s hope on practice is not as bad as we think, either way I hope we can get a good deal.

[@victorthallys9238]

My f2p side: 😎 🔥🔥 My future spending side: ☠️

[@jakubfabijanczuk8221]

i was worried about the rewards but this puts those worries to rest. I will miss the abillity to plan my pulls a year into the future tho.

[@Zora72954]

just save up until they release a character you like. is there a need to plan ahead?

[@avian5677]

​@@Zora72954 They probably mean a situation like nanami starfarer and watanabe

[@pinnah4266]

why plan when you can get everyone

[@avian5677]

@@pinnah4266 hypertuning materials wastage plus Skulls wasted and etc

[@MrBentalton777]

@@pinnah4266 you cannot get everyone if you also want some characters weapons as the only way you can get everyone is either via luck or by skipping all weapons

[@Istas_WR]

exhausted Selena is how I feel today after going over the announcements in the middle of the night 😅 so many "rewards will scale with the number of integrated versions" Well, let's see if they make any changes based on feedback to this announcement. It's a difficult process to make sure players are happy with the plans they make and I doubt everyone will be happy no matter what they do.

[@AG-qz8ko]

As a heavy spender with multiple s+ units, this has been a punch in the gut for me. There's no way i can triple my spending in a month to invest in the units that i want to the degree that I'd like, so unless the value improves, or kuro can show spenders some better consideration, i will be most likely going f2p, if I stay. It's a shame, but for the first time since I've started near the beginning of the game, I'm considering quitting as this feels like a slap to the face for a game I've been so passionate about with supporting until now. This also affects how I feel about kuro games overall, so I'll be reducing my spending in wuwa as well

[@Edward_Ardy4671]

my request was granted. The DMC collab might pull some people back and newer ones.

[@twitzmixx8374]

As a F2P here's my only gripe which I don't mind not getting adjusted, but I think is very crucial for the ecosystem of players: Adjusting the ranking systems of competitive modes(PPC, Warzone, etc.,). With the 2x and 3x reward multiplier, the difference in rewards based tiers/rankings will fluctuate dramatically from player to player. 3x is not a joke, that's a massive number. Just thinking of warzone alone scares me. They can leave the events out, just the permanent modes are enough honestly. They need to widen and spread out the rankings, so if there's 10 rankings then that needs to change to 30. Of course the rewards will not change, the only thing that'll change will be the difference of rewards from player to player. As for the spender problem. I'm F2P but they have to address this. Kuro is earning not that high in their patches in global, but with the current change I think it will further plummet and affect both sides negatively. Whales and Dolphins will not get as much of the contents/rewards that they would usually have while the patch revenue will be cutoff because people's income will just stay as is while everything will zoom past them. I wouldn't even mention the fact that Construct Frames' life will be cutoff prematurely from people's original plans. I think they need make monthlies and bp into something that can be stored in shop, which will stay for a very long time(I suggest match their approximate dates they would've been given if there were no expedite), and put a reasonable discount on them. This is not a complete solution because even though it does mean spenders will get everything, the rewards will be delayed because well people's income will stay the same. Monthlies and bp will just marinate in there for however long before they can purchase it or it expires which means there's still shortage for pulls. As for the coatings, a discount is needed while the duration of acquirement will be extended for a very long time. I'm not a spender but I've known some people who whale insane and they're the ones funding this game, Kuro better not screw them up. I'm a f2p so I could be wrong with anything regarding the spending solutions I wrote, but that's my one cent since we all know spenders are what's driving a game away from EoS.

[@MadokaMiko]

Honestly, I find it shocking that other global players think kurogames doesn't listen to our feedback, I've played global since frozen darkness and every idea and request I gave them, they listened to and implemented in CN after, they listen so much that it's comically scary.

[@WadeWontson]

Like the video mentioned, global does not see the changes until a year later so it feels like they're not listening, even though that isn't necessarily true. You know about it because you keep up to date with the situation in CN but many global players don't. Back when I was playing, I felt the same way because we had to wait ages to see improvement based on OUR feedback while CN gets to enjoy it within the next patch or two. Although I recognized the practical limitations of implementing improvements earlier in global, it still didn't feel fair.

[@jojolyneee]

Chinese companies are knowing for not caring about global players so there's no surprise that ppl think that

[@Kommunicate27]

This whole update is also about patching things up with the Global server. So any feedback or advice could be taken and implemented straight to the Global server without having to wait a year.

[@dankultimate3929]

You would your idea in global after more than a year, and by then most people would have already forgotten that they suggested anything in the first place.

[@kartikadityan]

Thank you for making this video. It is simply not feasible or fair to ask us to 2x or 3x our spending per patch to keep up with their accelerated schedule Well there go my plans for SSS phys team

[@luiseduardo4803]

I started playing in the Last spark version and since then has been tough to keep every S rank at SSS. It sucks that spenders are been punished since we are the ones who supported this game.

[@christiestratton8005]

Thanks!

[@GrayRavenRadio]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! ♥️

[@CheztaAhmad]

I am a light spender, only monthly cards and occasionally skins. This is really a high risk mid rewards gamble. If even you cant afford SSS ranks anymore, I cant afford monthly cards anymore. The price is higher than it used to be(albeit with more stuffs), yet my income/paycheck isnt. That is from money-related perspective alone. Time, I mean attention time that I need to care for the game is gonna go up. I am a 9-5 guy, playing games when at home, but sometimes I cant bcs work assignments. Missing 1 singular login would be fatal.

[@drifter7002]

I said this would happen on the last video and I put my thoughts into the last feedback survey. I am also an SSS spender and I do not appreciate having my comfortable spending situation completely upended for something that doesnt even really benefit me. I was happy with the foresight and pace. It gave me time to enjoy and savor the releases and plan my spending well in advance. Am I going to even be able to play 3 versions worth or content with how busy I am? Now losing a day is 3x the damage. Im not happy about this at all.

[@KamiGemaGaming]

Every spender I have talked to said they are quitting the game. This makes me sad because I just started this beautiful game and now I feel like it is getting an EoS scare because of this.

[@wetnoodlex]

Same. I might have to quit because I spend on the game, but I'm not gonna have access to the game during the integrated patches, so I'm also losing out on the free rewards from playing the game. Would have to come back to the game after missing out on tons of rewards AND THEN SPEND EXTRA on lower value packs instead of the monthly/BPs that I would have been able to stack up on during these patches.

[@Anka453]

Light spender here. Used to buy both BP tiers, all monthly cards and very rarely some packs here and there. Planning to stop buying anything except BP and that's only until I SS3/SSS the specific voucher shop characters I want. Then back to f2p life. Not worried about the future of the game because gacha games hardly rely on the global server revenue to function, but the overall mood in the fandom is gonna be doom and gloom unless something changes and that's kinda worrying.

[@fernandobarbosa9727]

Great video on the subject, Lina! I would like to throw some considerations here, if you allow me: Leaving aside the overwhelming importance of precognition for non spenders (thought to be fair it's going to take a whole year to lose it completely), which is a topic everyone already knows about, there are two worrying things in those adjustments. First is the "Daily Missions: the rewards will scale with the number of integrated versions *(excluding Daily Activity)*" - in other worlds, we lose from 300~330 to 600~660 BC per month on that deal, unless I understood that very wrong. Now, IF that deduction comes from the full value of BC CN receives, instead of our already lessened and never accounted for BC income from the 1.2 speed we had so far, it still ends up in a win over the current values, but also still on loss when compared to CN. Second: the loss is two to three times higher if people miss a day, whether by choice or not, and could potentially be much worse than that depending on the timing of missed rewards. This is not usually a worry to me in particular since I'm a consistent everyday player, but plenty of busy people like to take breaks or go easier sometimes because things are overwhelming for them at the moment. If a break is going to cost so much that they either stress and beat themselves over it, or burn themselves playing to not lose all that amount, then it raises the odds of people dropping the game altogether. Or feel really bad while playing it. Now, while this is a problem that affects everybody, I put it on f2p side because as their sole source of goodies, the loss of it affects them a lot harder. But in it's essence it's an issue to almost everyone as well. Next, I feel like low spenders actually have it worse than heavy spenders. Their only sources are Monthly Pass and BP, and maybe one package here or there. That lowers them to 1/2 or a 1/3 of their previous purchasing power. Now, the reason I put this on more of a low spender than high spender problem is because unlike the later who have a higher change of being able to afford extra costs (I know it's not necessarily the case and that there are people who gamble with their lives along with the gacha when it comes to this kind of expense, but I like to believe the majority have good financial control), dolphins and goldfishes *usually* lack that capacity altogether (naturally those with reduced expenses solely because or their own volition would be exempt, but then again that same choice will usually preclude them from spending more to make up for things). And since the initial stages of pulling are the most important ones, missing a Sig and/or CUB will affect them more negatively than high spenders missing a SSS rank (to be fair it depends on which grounds they are competing, but the point is more to show what holds the most basic relevance). Does take some very bad luck for that, but it can happen, while heavy spenders can at least guarantee that much, though they do have other worries I'll try to approach bellow. Now, when it comes to heavy spenders, there are two kinds: the Leviathans that seem to have infinite money and can easily be identified by their full rosters of SSS+ S ranks (not just the single picks for waifu/husbando reasons or whatever other motive they had), and the ones whose expenses are up to their limit (whether by conscient choice and good management or simply lack of further money), who tend to stop at the healthy SSS rank spot. For the first group they are actually in advantage in all fields. Why do I think that? Because just like you said in your videos, for whales who are already at their limits, the situation is bad. Those whales without money glitches are the only competition the Leviathans have other than themselves, and the former struggling means the later will only have to worry about themselves. What that means is that for Leviathans, it'll be even more comfortable to retain top scores in Legend WZ and PPC, or not change at all (depends on skill levels and who they compete with), while the humbler spenders will have a harder time keeping up depending on how deep the limits of their pockets go and/or how much they are willing to spend. And when it comes to coatings, only Leviathans will not be affected by it either. And the less money someone has to spend, the more affected by it they'll be. For f2ps this is a concern only in regards to gacha coatings and IF they have interest on those. But as someone who only has Solitary Dream because of your own video forewarning and preparing us for it (and, again, precognition), I'm the living example of it being a valid point nonetheless, and I know there are plenty others out there who are in the same shoes. So my conclusion is that everyone *aside* from the uber spenders will have difficulties in one way or another. Be them f2ps, dolphins or whales with limits. There is also the issues that will arise with changes in pacing and rewards that will inevitably happen when we reach CN, but I feel like that's another conversation altogether. This one is more strictly on the game/real life economy aspect. Last but not least I really wanted to thank you for your honest take on this matter. It really comforted me to see you approaching it in a very realistic and grounded manner, in opposition to some blind optimism I'm seeing in other people. For real, you have no clue how much weight this adds to your opinion for me. ❤ And thank you for taking the time and patience to read all this stuff as well, of course. 😁 Please let me know if there's any point or consideration I have missed, specially because all the perspective I have on whale/leviathan territory is based on speculation and hearsay, so there are significant odds of me getting something wrong. I also really hope YT stops disappearing with my comment now, lol.

[@jawadulabedin4586]

Aye very well written. What bothers me is that their reasoning for not increasing paid options for global players is that its "Unfair for their CN players." While that is understandable, this repeated priority and favoritism towards CN is unfair for global players.

[@fernandobarbosa9727]

​@@jawadulabedin4586 Thank you very much! And I agree completely with you. If we're going to consume resources three times faster, then we need to acquire them three times faster as well, and this also applies to paid content. Expecting people to be able and willing to afford twice or thrice the amount of money is honestly out of touch and much more unfair than anything else, specially when those are the people who help support the game the most. Sadly, we also know CN is rather sensible on any perceived "injustice" against them, and in a certain way hold Kuro hostage as their main source of income and ease at which they can be more "expressive" with their discontent. So just like you said, understandable, but still very unfair. In the end, simple math still makes it fair for us to receive an adjusted amount per expense, and Kuro so far is failing to account for that. Fortunately, nothing is set in stone yet and they can (and should) adjust that with the feedback that they most certainly will receive on this matter. But it is disheartening that it needs to happen in the first place.

[@spoott4085]

Today i can still compete for my Hero wz bracket.but after this sync i think ill struggle to even reach Hero. Imagine all the Leviathan i fight, have all the meta and here iam have to skip some of them. And no longer be able to co.pete against them. And yes iam a BP and monthly user,but after this patch it seems impossible as f to keep up with it😢

[@fernandobarbosa9727]

@@spoott4085 Reaching Hero is usually not a problem as f2p (though of course you need a stablished account), but retaining it would definitely be really really tough if we base by current standards. However, everyone on it is liable to face the same hardships, since the true heavy spenders are on Legend. So it's possible that you might not feel that much difference, depending on how luck goes for you and everyone else as well. It's the kind of thing that depends most on a collective result for us to see how it ends up. And do keep in mind that there are variables that might actually make it easier, like some spenders going f2p if they keep this current model. I.e. we'll only know for sure when it starts.

[@peaceaintpeaceful]

don't worry spender's. just submit your pgr id in your workplace and they'll synchronize your salaries.

[@arghost9798]

I'm merchant. So where I should submit my PGR id to triple my revenue? My customer?

[@Tau041]

Honestly ? The news sounds good to me since I am F2P. It means I can get every single character (I still hope I can get some coatings but I should manage with some planning). Though for spenders, it sounds like they got the short end of the stick. I still hope for those of you who spend in PGR will get a good deal at the end of the day.

[@mercuryw]

8:33 "Okay, wait, doesn't-doesn't that mean we actually get less? Am I misreading this?" I believe so. I believe this section needs an extra bullet point to further clarify how packs deliver BC. Packs that give BC will typically send you the rewards via in-game mail, so what we could do here is to have 1 standard monthly pass up and running along with 2 monthly pass-like packs that deliver their rewards via in-game mails, for a total of 3 passes running at the same time, depending on the number of integrated patches.

[@guillaumebastien]

Honestly since they announced this I saw it comming and now is announced, I already told kuro in the watanabes patch survey that they dont have my support anymore like my salary isnt 3x times now, and especially I have never asked for a catch up, like Im gonna miss a lot of coatings and such but Im done, makes me sad but my money isnt supporting this.

[@МихаилНер]

I feel you

[@A_better_alternative]

On top of all of this, the characters that we pull themselves have reduced shelf time because their power creep future counterparts will be here faster than they would if we didn't do the leap. So on top of all of the gut punches for the spenders and even if FTP look like they get taken care of, we still ALL lose out on actual length of use for our characters.

[@wetnoodlex]

That's a really good point that I don't see other people mentioning too much. Kinda makes me want to quit tbh

[@seejackcut]

Yea, Snowbreak Containment Zone compesated us for cosmetics when they got censored the 1st & 2nd time. They should find a way to appreciate "ALL" players of all kinds. Especially the spenders, because they spent.

[@rudabrantrobb1858]

As as month BP player, I'm kind of worried about it. If they're consolidating 3 version into 1 patch which include the BP, that means I would have to pay a total of $60 for the 3 passes per patch next year. That would also mean ignoring most of the coatings that I would want to buy which kind of sucks.

[@rafelt4147]

They forgot to increase the rewards from dorm eh, especially the currency to bought hypertune materials and S rank shards... And guild points too to bought hypertune materials...

[@nebulous7710]

To me this is a Kuro created problem and players suffer no matter what they do. They caused the split between servers and now chose to close it on this schedule. I think they need a better balanced solution and/or some rewards for players given Kuro imposed this on us. Maybe something like easing the spending burden on Global and giving CN some rewards to keep it balanced. I see the F2P solution of little consequence since they just make the announced adjustments and nothing changes at all for anyone. No cost to Kuro and F2P gets what they always get. For spenders who actually fund the game they are either making CN feel ripped off if global gets 2-3x the rewards for the catch-up or making global spend 2-3x the money for a year maintain their account level. I can see the current solution backfiring on Kuro since a lot of people have indicated dropping back to F2P. If they do, by the end of this catch-up these people will have been effectively 2 years F2P level on their account, so why bother spending again since their whole roster is effectively at that level now. I'm a monthly card + BP player which allows me to SS the main S-Rank constructs with weapon and CUB and have a solid voucher income for ranking up which gives me an enjoyable experience. Now if I maintain that current spending level I'm in a no-man's land where I could SS/Sig/CUB the occasional S-Rank which would feel weird so that leaves me with going full F2P and just getting the base S-Rank or spending 2-3x more to maintain my account at the level I enjoy. So basically none of these options feel that good in the end.

[@Vios__]

They need to make an archive for all the extra battle passes, monthly passes and paid packs that are added in accordance to the amount of integrated versions. Whatever goes in this archive also needs to have no time limit.

[@13r2N]

I salute all the spenders o7. I'll send feedback through official means to try to help spenders. I hope more f2p do similar to help spenders

[@Echozies]

Remember if spenders dont spend the game dies and global is already half dead - I believe thats the reason for this move not the capcom collaboration. They realise global is dying and if they dont make it fun as CN with other modes they wont even reach end of next year.

[@valenhil6157]

Not reducing the costs is a fallacy. These things have no actual cost, it's all revenue, and they're tripling it. Not to mention, any concerns by it being "unfair" to CN players are already addressed by the value we get out of everything being reduced by their time before obsoleteness being reduced.

[@jawadulabedin4586]

1) I wish our time and salaries scaled with number of integrated versions too :(. 2) Also Not scaling monthly passes by factoring the compression because its "unfair to their Chinese audience" is a poor excuse; ITS UNFAIR to the global players. All they have to do is calculate the average BC a Chinese player gets from their monthly passes (between versions) and simply factor it for the compression. It literally costs them nothing to give out a made-up in game currency. 3) The only way I see this working is if the Spenders are chronically addicted to the game enough to sell their kidneys and take up loans to make up for the loss xd 4) This repeated priority and favoritism for CN makes Global players feel like an unwanted middle child of Kur0

[@wetnoodlex]

Global players are always the unwanted middle child for gacha games. I think Mihoyo is the only company that keeps their releases global. I'm gonna stick to those games unless Kuro actually just removes this plan altogether. The more I read other people's thoughts and comments about the change, the less confidence I have that this will be implemented well. I want to keep mentioning this every chance I get because it's a major concern, but we also just get less play time on each new character because they'll become obsolete faster due to powercreep on the Synchronization plan.

[@МихаилНер]

I don't write comments often, but today i wrote like 10 of the same text. I think that whole this " just pay more" thing is an act of disrespect towards people who held this game on their shoulders. Just for you understanding, I have a 5500 RC meta account. To keep up with my competitors i have to pay more(keep in mind that my salary is not accelerated by 2 or 3) or be in a big 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 disadvantage. This is inappropriate disrespect, a spit to the face. Without us, dolphins, sharks and whales this game will be dead, there re literally will be no F2P players if it wasn't for us, who pay for all F2P players . This game has no future if this is how it treats its key players. However, there is some time for them to do the right decision and atleast at least give us a discount, or this will be a complete disaster. Which I certainly don't want to happen, cuz i love this game more than any other online game in this world and I don't want to see it collapsed like this.

[@mfo7611]

This all seems like a cash grab before they stop supporting the game. Milk the whales before they stop producing more content.

[@bennythecloudfarer]

Massive disrespect. Why have we been paying more than CN already and now, pay more but we won't give you enough packs, so you pay more to lose more money and have less packs to lose more money.

[@darko6115]

mf put your pride away for the betterment of the game. Global being 1 year behind has sucked as* and will always suck as*. You will live… its not permanent either

[@wetnoodlex]

@@mfo7611 Truthfully, those players will still play and spend money because they feel superior in their rankings when they dunk on the F2P. They'll continue to fund the game and Kuro will happily take their money. As for me, if nothing changes, I'm gonna have to dip out. I'll be gone for 3 months and I'll be missing out on about 6 patches of weekly/daily rewards, and when I come back, I'll have to spend half a year's worth of money on BP/Monthly passes + the lower value bundles in order to just catch up. That's a big slap to the face. For perspective, without the Synch plan, I would only miss out on about 2 patches of dailies/weeklies, and could just catch up with BP/Monthly/bundles for 2 patches to catch up.

[@sirascatur5873]

light spender here, always keep 2x monthly pass and at some points I got BP for expansion or 2, It helped with getting every S rank and getting their weapon/SS for some of them. Now those don't look that great for integrated versions. Rexlent said he was in contact with ppl at Kuro and gave them his concerns, hopefully it helps. But as he said "In the worst case scenario - vote with your vallet" and I think that's what will happen.

[@biladusan]

Damn, doomposting was true all along for spenders... I always take monthly + BP, it's 20$ and I can afford it. Now, if we want to do that, we have to fork 40-60$ per month, for at least a year. It's like spending 3 year in a single year... Without discounts... That's insane! Can't imagine what real whales feel like having to spend 400-600$ a month instead of 200

[@dani.isr5]

Honestly, as an F2P that has been playing gacha games for years, I like the fact that they will bring closer the Global ver. to the CN because one server being 1 year ahead from another is crazy, BUT, the fact that they are going to synchronice them... I really don't like that, since by leaving a gap of at least around 3 months between CN and Global, I think that most players are going to have a better experience, and here is why i think so: - First, because 3 months is nothing compared to 1 year (4X more), so it leaves a great amount of time for all players to get hyped with new upcoming events/characters and they won't get overwhelmed by the time they gotta wait for them. - Second, because of being able to know wich characters they need to skip or pull, and save resources for them right away.

[@rttundewie]

so tldr: good for f2p players, bad for spenders and whales. im happy about characters coming early and story coming simultaneously in all servers so we can avoid misinformation and spoilers tho.

[@wetnoodlex]

Nah. It's bad all around. Another comment pointed out that the shelf life for each character will shorten due to the integrated patches. Characters we pull for will be useful/meta for less time than if we followed a regular patch schedule because they'll get power creeped faster.

[@hugo198600000000000]

As a spender, I'll continue to spend the same amount I have over the past 3 years of playing the game. I still love PGR, even though I feel a bit betrayed since I didn’t want the synchronization.

[@DelusionalDunmer]

You must be a pretty high spender/only buying monthly passes to decide to comfortably keep spending even after the insane loss of value this will present. Personally, as a medium spender who can only SSS a few attacker frames, I'm only goint to SSS Luna's new frame and after that, there will be no point in spending anymore as I'll just be more and more behind.

[@aeo-gard]

As a lower monthly spender i feel really stafted by the changes, and it genuinely makes me concerned about Global's longevity. Edit: I do feel mostly positive about the regular f2p rewards, but if we're also not getting multiplied daily BC rewards (unless those are being accounted for those otherwise) then we still get shafted I have submitted a lot of cordial and official feedback about it, but i really hope they dont let potential whining from CN players absolutely ruin global

[@hughu9340]

Don't expect *ANY* discount, at all. HI3 "anniversary incident" taught us many things, especially about CN player base.

[@Burgerdestoyer]

What happened? I'm not caught up with the lore?

[@HaveFaithInMe-i1k]

@@Burgerdestoyer if im not mistaken, cn were going havoc about music collaboration with myth & roid due to bunny girl outfit in the video. they claim it doesnt suit their cultural aspect at all

[@hughu9340]

@@HaveFaithInMe-i1k you forgot about murder attempt on devs (no biggie, right?) or how they gave CN player base 10 pulls and some other rewards as an apalogy for giving global players that bunny event, while giving to global players f ~200-500 crystals (~1-3 pulls), watery apology and general "second rate citizen" attitude towards global players. Damn, people forget things so easily.

[@HaveFaithInMe-i1k]

@@hughu9340 i admit i forgot, been 2 years since i played

[@jawadulabedin4586]

​@@hughu9340 Its sad that we have to suffer because the CN playerbase are psychos and its sad that they'd risk losing the global market than piss off the CN playerbase

[@kaiseldan5369]

It's okay guys, just tell your boss to speed up your salaries to accommodate for this synchronisation plan

[@Luanielbr]

Lowering the price would feel like a punch to the face to the other regions, so I kinda expected the prices to stay the same. I guess the best we can hope for is to have multiple 100% banners so we can spread out our spending without risking the 70%

[@chrma_]

If this is the way they're going to do the paid content, they need to make the time limit for that content also scale with integrated versions. If the patch is 42 days, and we have 3 patches in one, we need to have 126days to buy that stuff or else we will be under more purchase pressure than cn was, which is unfair. I think a better way to implement this would be a retroactive version tab that includes all of the version specific packs and purchasable items. This tab would update as new stuff comes out, but items would not be removed until the original life of the content ended. So if we have one month with 3 months of content, that purchasable content would be available for the full three months even if the version ends earlier. In the case of battle passes, something similar could be implemented. A new tab that keeps track of past battle pass progress and allows you to purchase old battle passes. Let's say you got to level 50. If there were 3 patches, you're able to go in and buy them over the course of three months, even if you can't get bp experience anymore. You'd get the rewards for level 50, it's just a little later than normal. If you do have the pockets, you can buy it all at once and not worry about it, if you have to pace yourself, now you have the time you would have originally. And With the monthly card purchase, they just need to make it the same. That "one less" nonsense needs to go. If these changes go through they're going to end up alienating the people who support them the most, which is not a good look. TL;DR My wallet does not scale with integrated versions kuro please have mercy

[@ben-taobeneton3945]

_Nice. So more to spend and on a faster rate. I can't wait_ 🙂

[@thisistasty4320]

As a light spender, I'm pretty happy about the free to play rewards but I really hate the way they're handling things like the battle pass, also what about the multiple gacha skins that are also coming out. Time to lock in I guess

[@XErdLee]

As low spender this is too much, I must spend money 2-3 on BP & monthly than normal 😭 I am broke, my plan all ruins C'mon kuro think a better solution

[@bennythecloudfarer]

I hate this for light spenders. This comes right after Tencent acquired. Global is being cheated and charged multiple times the CN players were charged for less. They gave us a measly 10 pull for this. I shouldn't have to pay more per month to collect characters or skins. Many people are going F2P and Kuro would lose out on much revenue for this. There should've been an atleast 30% discount, outside of fixing the payment discrepancy between CN and Global.

[@milamaxwell1731]

I do hope people realize with the changes to paying cage. In war zone, with the surplus amount of rewards being three times what we're normally getting based on your positions, the rewards that we can use those points towards were also increased by three times.

[@christiestratton8005]

Thank you SO MUCH! You did a FANTASTIC job, AS ALWAYS! 😊 Details as you requested: Have been able to play for basically 2 of 4 recent months. I was given a double heads-up to ABSOLUTELY get a running start into Grey Raven when 21: Ferrel's event arrived. (I did, and I think she is at SSS rank and if I recall correctly). Then, I endured a forced break. Again, you and others gave me a double heads-up to go for MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE GAMING when Black⭐Rock Shooter's even occurred. (I did the best that I could.). Then, another forced break. I'm now ready to return in two days. So, I have been a player with long gaps in playtime. That may change. I DO want to be a regular, everyday player of Grey Raven. I am a light spender. That will probably change to be medium spender - not a whale by any measure. Feelings about the major news: I was thrilled to discover Grey Raven and continue to be EXTREMELY grateful for your super help that gave me the confidence to dive into the game. I wouldn't have become a huge Grey Raven fan without you. Love the soundtrack, too. I know that NEW characters are going to be FLOODING into the game. Here, I have an advantage. Some friends who know me and Kikyo really super well voted me "most like 21:XXI when you get to share enough quality time with your wife," and "that's you (21:Ferrel) when you don't get to spend time with Kikyo." Then, separately, I have almost a profound reverence for B⭐RS. SO! I am super happy playing with my "signature" (21) and "wish I was her" (B⭐RS) characters, along with Lotus, Eclipse, and Nanami. I'm not really sweating the deluge of new characters. No pressure here. Super best fun wishes! Christie💞Kikyo クリステイー💞ききょう

[@DelusionalDunmer]

As someone who is a medium spender, who only goes for SSS on main dps (and not even all of them at that) as they are the highest value for finshing PPC and WZ quickly, if you are so close to being f2p already, I say just keep buying the monthly black card pass and maybe skins and nothing else. With the accelerated schedule, the value of anything you buy other than skins is going to drop 2 to 3 times the amount. I already had to skip SSS Lee and was planning to skip SSS Qu, just going for SS or SS3, so I could SSS Luna and Lucia's frames. But with the insane loss of value I don't have the budget to just completely whale for them. So I'm going to have to get SSS Luna and just SS Lucia, which has left a huge negative impact on my motivation to keep spending in this game. I had an entire roadmap planned out for who I want to invest in, and now that is completely thrown out because I can't get enough currency with the loss of value and my current budget. Basically, just keep the value of being a light spender, because even that value is going to decrease massively and it will only get worse if you spend more.

[@kraosdadafusfus8034]

Pyroath' coming quite soon then. Shiny Lulu is best Lulu.

[@yusef917]

As a fat Dolphin , (about $75 per patch for specific patches i only aim to get a character once) I don't see how we miss out on anything because this game is low to mid spenders dream. I can spend about that much and get a character and their weapon without worrying about 50/50s. Where in other games your spending like 300 to guarantee a character and this is coming from someone who doesn't even play I just spend get the character and log out. ( I'm a collector more than a player I often have only like 1000BC after a patch). If your playing even a little bit you can atleast get about 9k BC from weeklies Dailies and events. so that number drops to like $20 if your playing just a little.

[@doommaker4000]

The weapon banner is 80|20...

[@jawadulabedin4586]

Firstly this isn't an issue that relates to other games at all. This is an issue that deals with us catching up to the CN server and we're all playing the same fking game. Would you like it if Genshin decides to make 50/50s into a 40% pity? Thats The main issure here. PLAYERS GETTING LESS THAN WHAT THEY WERE GETTING. They dont wanna give u more bcz CN will cry about it. The Plan itself is great but horrible implementation. Overall its a business move and Kur0 doesnt give a damn about their global player base.

[@yusef917]

@@doommaker4000 I've personally gotten multiple double 6 stars off weapon banner. I've never lost the 50/50 on it and it always comes early but thats just me

[@KitsuneMizuki]

Love your channel, literally the best about PGR

[@zeera2854]

I agree, I think making sure your voice is heard and giving constructive feedback before the patch is implemented is key! Throwing aside some of the spending issues, I hope they don't get rid of some of the fun events. Like, it's cool that we're catching up, but I don't want it to be at the cost of some of the events.

[@anythinggoes4881]

F2P is the way for medium spender like me. Goodbye SSS characters. Goodbye lovely coatings.

[@luisespinoza3877]

I never cared for these so called “spoilers.” If thats what people cared about is spoilers. Those lot need to grow up, now im being punished for spending a bit or maybe a lot depending on the patch. Over spoilers and catching up, i was stoked but now….screw this shit

[@BigC-f3g]

As a F2P player this is amazing news

[@belial4327]

halfway trough the video a cute "mandatory" rant about your favorite pink girl and how you love her. 😊

[@pablotomasllodra4423]

Yeah, Ayla is cute, sexy, and maybe unofficially considered an honorary Gray Raven with all that time the squad passes with her in both story and events as well as her introductory comic.

[@v4rr0lot3k6]

To any Whales in the comments, you are absolutely FUBAR, rest in pieces folks. Spenders are having a bad time as well, will probably need to skip some side-banners (cubs/weapons) and likely ditch some/all skins. F2P are more or less unaffected completely since they can probably still afford characters on release, unchanged with how it was already. F2P has won this round.

[@DelusionalDunmer]

Yeah as someone who can only SSS certain attacker frames, still haveing to skip Lee and Qu, I'm going f2p after getting SSS Luna. It just isn't worth spending with the value so low and I'll be so far behind there will be no point in spending anyways.

[@VectorPrime-wx3lx]

Kuro needs to stop being held hostage by CNcels with a fragile ego. Like when giving the free multi due to synchronisation announcement to cn servers even tho it doesn’t affect them at all, god forbid a cn game giving something global exclusive for once but that would make all the cn crybabies throw a tantrum because they aren’t constantly getting special treatment. The real reason why global didn’t get 2-3 patches worth of rewards in just 1 pack which costs the same as old packs (which would’ve been what made sense) is because the fragile egos of CNcels can’t fathom global having better purchase bundles than them and would demand kuro to give them the same packs even tho they aren’t the ones affected by server acceleration

[@doommaker4000]

And they often get exclusive stuff too. CN really is the bane of gacha

[@samalexander5153]

The rewards will scale with the number of integrated versions. 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿👌

[@diokosa7001]

It also means within the year theres going to be less grind relative to what we would normally have. Which is pretty nice.

[@mohaa556]

Honestly as much as you say the speedup would be worse for high spenders (which it might be, I wouldn't know), as a F2P Commandant I was very afraid of this speedup. Collecting 15k BC patch-to-patch to guarantee I can unlock the character while it's in the 100% banner was quite often a tight squeeze even as is (and I played almost every day), so I actually found it very helpful to be spoiled on upcoming characters so that I can know which characters I might get to skip, if I am tight on BCs. I was also quite worried that even tough they said there will be compensations it wouldn't cover unlocking all the characters in the mashed up patches. I do admit that now seeing the detailed plans it kinda puts my worries to rest somewhat altough I will still only be cautiously optimistic until I see this plan actually working in action.

[@WadeWontson]

As a F2P you may also suffer if it's a particularly bad warzone or PPC week. If you fail to perform well or simply don't have time to mald, you'll miss out on more rewards and we all know how PPC currency is super important - characters feel like shit to play at base S rank and SS is the bare minimum for them to actually feel decent.

[@DelusionalDunmer]

@@WadeWontson Not the mention the insane gap between f2p and whales that is going to appear because of this. All that hard work you did gettng a stable high war zone and PPC rank? All the low-medium spenders only able to SSS certain frames? Too bad, now work twice as hard to even get close to those spots again while all the whales still SSS every character.

[@nezttele1243]

It's good and relieved that Kuro listen and answer the player's worries about PGR. I'm an f2p, I've been playing this game few days after Global was release, and i love it even now. I made some mistake using the Black Card along the way, but i learn my mistakes and carefully use which is which. Tbh, im only playing this game just want to watch the main & event stories and Construct affection story. But i also want to get them stronger to get the stage rewards. I hope Kuro's gift can help me get every S.Construct during the sync so i can watch their stories. And good luck to everyone of getting what they want with their pulls.

[@Anddroiden]

New player, tend to be a BP + premium currency spender and frankly will probably continue doing that. Might buy all the base BC passes, but i am also likely going to stick with 1 of each BP pass at most.

[@hexfizgamingch]

In this economy and plan, yeah cant afford 3 bp ngl..

[@shiinglacier]

F2P won't lose anything during this, so kuro did good on their side 100%, but there will be added pressure, since if you lose 1 reward you'll be actually losing 2-3. But for me who always bought the monthly pass and BPs I'm really considering dropping the game along with wuwa if they don't change their approach towards spenders (goldfish, dolphins and whales alike). I already sent feedback through the game and their e-mail.

[@carrothed760]

I might be the only one who have problem with it, but with the synchronization of patches, might come with a large patch size, which means more storage are required to update the game. I'm already short on storage due to my phone limitations and pgr take almosr all of my storage space and i can't cant get a new one 'cause Im still a student. So yeah, panik is me for upcoming patches :3

[@johnmivule-novabow8143]

Damn as a f2p player, we eating good out, here. NOw for my dolphin spending ahh self, yeah idk man.

[@Zambles]

I feel like theres 2 big things they can do. 1: Stretch it a bit more and have some 2-Point integrated patches instead. Slows it down a bit but helps a ton. 2: in exchange for actually offering some BC discount for spenders on global give the CN players some Discounted new FX skins. (they come out Full price for global later) To offset the saveings we get. To additionally appease CN run a community thing and let them pick who gets the new skins. Maybe even keep one version exclusive for a bit past the integration just to further appease the upsety spegeti folks.

[@SixtyFourBlades]

As a light spender (Monthly + BP), I'm honestly very upset. My spending is calculated. I can't afford to purchase 3 whole BPs and monthly passes in ONE patch. I was expecting at least SOME form of discount or bundle to compensate for the accelerated schedule. I was honestly expecting more from Kuro and I hope they make further adjustments. PGR is my favorite gacha game, but I cannot support scummy practices like this. Just really disappointed.

[@Nicole-dg1rp]

Hopefully before saying they’re scummy, you sent them feedback already

[@SixtyFourBlades]

@Nicole-dg1rp I've voted in the poll in the general discord and commented on their community posts. Not sure what else I can do. I still have some faith that Kuro will do something.

[@Sincerity1993]

Same

[@Nicole-dg1rp]

I think there’s a button that says “feedback” on the log-out menu, dunno about PC client though @SixtyFourBlades

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

Lol man 😂😂😂 gacha gamrs are already scummy enough

[@msan5623]

I see a lot of F2P excited about the reward scaling. But just a reminder it was meant to cover your losses not an "Extra". The entire changes will be great for regular player (who play every day), light spender (who only bought packs occasionally), and those who really want future CN content to be added as soon as possible. From what I understand reading through that note. The one will be on disadvantages is: 1. The spender who spent regularly on Monthly pass and BP. Because of the duration and claim limit. 2. The casual who can't play regularly every day. Because missing 1 day now will be equal to 2-3(depending on number of integrated patch) As for me, I would like to catch up with the CN and I don't really care that much about the packs since I don't spend that often. But I can see why some aspect may be problematic for some people.

[@superqueso]

I'm a day 1 player, I started buying the monthly ones to support Kuro, because it seemed like a very f2p game that deserved to live despite the poor funding, dramas (one dollar lol) and small community. The story, the music, the characters were my main motivation to spend some dollars on the game, to continue growing. A year ago the meta found me, so I started spending more, I am a recent SSS player (Bianca, CW, Lamia and Wata) About the situation. On the one hand the announcement that the rewards would be good for f2p players made me happy, even though the game has become a bit more p2w in the competitive area, I like to see f2p players achieve very good scores and be able to enjoy the rewards of high WZ and PPC ranks. On the other hand, the treatment of players who spend money was disappointing. In my case I spend 100 dollars per patch and that has helped me get the SSS character + 6* weapon 3 resos + pet. Seeing that I would suddenly have to spend double or triple to get the same thing seemed like a horrible decision. Not because of the money, but because I think no one likes to pay more for less. If I wanted to spend $200 or $300 per patch, I would have done so months ago to get SSS3-SSS+ characters. So I would expect Kuro to adjust prices.

[@wetnoodlex]

How do you get SSS characters with only 100 dollars a patch lol. 100 dollars gets you maybe like 120 pulls if you buy the bundles per patch. That's barely enough to SS6 characters, let alone SSS + 6* weapons 3 reso + pet. Sounds like a straight up lie lol. Cost you way more to get that lol. I know plenty of people who whale to SSS+ and it costs on average $2000+. Getting SSS costs a bit less than half of that. You would need an extra 320 pulls (180 for duplicate copies, 30 x4 for weapon + resonances and 20 for CUB), and that would run you at least $1000.

[@chrissaiko2626]

The painful thing for me today is not realizing I can't plan ahead by a year anymore but i wasn't able to finished the event and even collect some stuff was stuck on 40km floor 😢 Thou because of this sync I'm excited getting us DMC collab faster

[@RaidenFafnir]

Overall, it is beyond horrible for me and pretty much any super low spender. I always bought BP and monthly, that was exactly 143 RC or so assuming I need to buy 1 and half monthly and both BPs, now you expect me to double or even triple that to 286 or even 429? Honestly, extremely tone deaf of them. I have never seen kuro not care about global to that degree in a long time. I hate it to the very extreme. I may just quit, day 1 play, spender since day 1 but now I can't anymore. I am not going F2p, for me, F2p experience in gachas is not part curly too fun. I will give them a chance till the end of this patch, if the next patch gets implemented as is stated atm, I am out.

[@DelusionalDunmer]

As a medium spender, it's absolutely terrible. I've only been able to SSS a few attack omns since they give the most value for clearing quickly. I was already skipping SSS Lee and Qu, now I have to skip SSS Lucia because I don't have to budget to get her and Luna to SSS which was my entire roadmap for future content. I wont even be considering SSS Ishmael or even spending at all anymore because the value to spend is just too low, and by the time everyone is caught up, I'll be too far behind to even make spending worthwhile. The only people who benefit from this are Leviathans who have the budget to spend as much as they want without putting a dent into their income. I guess the silver lining is that I'll have some extra money to spend, at the very least.

[@wetnoodlex]

@@DelusionalDunmer Curious how much you spend to SSS characters as well as get their weapon + 3 resonances + CUB (if you do). I assume the ticket bundles/BP/monthly passes only go so far before you have to start dumping RC directly into BC exchange.

[@SeggLord_]

Before F2P : ohh we doom P2P : hell yeah Now F2P : hell yeah P2P : fuck !

[@HonkaiDaily]

Nah, Spenders were basically expecting this exact situation

[@wetnoodlex]

nah. Every player should be upset. F2P may still be getting a similar amount of pull currency, but the pull currency is now lower value as characters will get power crept way faster due to the release schedule being accelerated. The investment you put into characters will last a shorter amount of time before the new meta counterpart takes over.

[@MrMixmatch]

As a f2p i learned the importance and planning and patience. After the synchronisation i don't think I'll have these skills and I'm curious about how kuro will compensate for this.

[@EROC601PLAYZ]

welp coming from a person thats over 25k RC in on global and 4k on CN......i do feel a little slighted about how they treating spenders....but im thinking they just gonna speed through the A rank patches....i mean people use those as saving patches anyway so in my eyes its still good. Imma miss having forsight tho. i was buying packs every patch and saving them for the characters i want and currently at over 112k tickets saved. i will just put my trust in Kuro and judge once the sync start after Qu patch.

[@doommaker4000]

The devs want us F2P, I hope they can live their lives F2P

[@Doktah_Zari]

This isn't punishment, this is ENLIGHTENMENT, JOIN THE F2P SIDE!!!! 😈

[@МихаилНер]

Someone have to pay for you to be a f2p, there is nothing really free in this world. If this is free for you it just means that somebody have payed for you

[@kirito6170]

When is the update?

[@PaulHofreiter]

F2P is great, and commendable, but people don’t want to be forced to when used to spending.

[@SRFAA]

​@@kirito6170The first sync patch in Global will be in January.

[@kirito6170]

@SRFAA thank you 🙏

[@DarkTheDoc]

I'm a low spender too, and the moment they mentioned a triple BP + triple monthly plus all the packs with the same prices I was at a loss of words, like we truly would appreciate some discounts, and we wanna support the game but It's too much for the most of us, otherwise I fear the game might start bleeding players more or at the very least, they'd stop spending, they fr need to reconsider this decision and address this major concern. Also what's the name of the OST used in 10:25 ? Been looking for that specific one.

[@GrayRavenRadio]

NANAMI IKIMASU 🎶

[@DarkTheDoc]

​@@GrayRavenRadiomuch thanks !

[@crewgunnight8987]

Feedback? I advise spenders to not spend, best feedback to devs😂

[@rogeljantare8282]

I’m a dolphin, but I can’t shell out money that quickly when patches are coming in quickly for the duration of the sync, especially since the upcoming units are actually fun and meta defining

[@northmoth]

Jesus Christ this is going to be the longest December of my life. (Been in the teddy waiting room ever since she was revealed on CN)

[@imfrank6785]

For monthly user and CUB BP user like me, the bad thing is now not every S-rank debut will have their sig equipment which is the reason why I buy the Monthly pack in the first place. Not bad if I were to say but it's for those who spend to buy Pack, Coating and to SSS/+ their character will hurt the most.