The BEST budget Gaming keyboard (better than wooting?) - Polar 65!

[@iNullaify]

Check out the boards here and use code: Saturn for $15-$20 off!! arbiterstudio.com/

[@ZF_isNoob]

my guy really took the feedback well from your first review, congrats man! Looking forward to more!

[@iNullaify]

Thank you so much, getting a new mic and better mixing and editing soon.

[@anthonycontreras7590]

Getting the polar 65 with your code as im typing brother, great review

[@iNullaify]

Enjoy it

[@jemloveclub]

this as my first gaming keyboard would be a dream 😭

[@theillmeister]

Excellent video. That whole intro section was straight gold. Killin' it Saturn!

[@iNullaify]

I tried really hard

[@theillmeister]

I can definitely tell. 🤌🤌🤌👌👌👌@@iNullaify

[@whoframedthatguy]

thoroughly enjoyed this video on one of the best prebuilts out there!! Good job saturn, did well on this video

[@iNullaify]

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@jaeeoce]

aw hell yeah. home from work to a saturn review

[@iNullaify]

JAEE THE GOAT

[@PeacefulParadise10]

The Neo Tokyo board looks amazing. 🔥

[@iNullaify]

My personal favorite is the midnight lilac

[@carm_keys]

Definitely getting this! Finally a 65% HE board that sounds good, love the vid! 🔥

[@iNullaify]

It's awesome, let me know what version you get

[@sukiofps4002]

Let’s get this thing posted alr

[@iNullaify]

its up its up!!!

[@crmys]

we are so back

[@iNullaify]

NEVER LEFT BABY 🩵

[@nohticYT]

Saturn the goat

[@iNullaify]

No, you ❤️

[@Lenevor]

Nah you a rider 😭😭🙏😂 by statistics and customization, the wooting 60HE is STILL the best bang for buck

[@babayaga.666-v8x]

yep 337 € for a keyboard is a real deal lmao....189€ + 129(aluminum case) and 19€ fast shipping.... and it comes to you in a month and also the sound sucks

[@iNullaify]

Huh? To make a wooting feel and look good you need to spend upwards of $200 and 5 hours of your time lubeing switches.... $120 for jade switches $120 for a case $20 for foam And $30 for lube and kit 6hours lubeing and 2 hours taking apart every thing and putting it back. Oops forgot the switch opener, $10 Then you have a good wooting, and yes it's the best after you dump your money into it.

[@iNullaify]

Yep gotta spend another $200-300 just to make it sound good

[@babayaga.666-v8x]

@@iNullaify i saw that polar 65 neon toyko there isn't on an European site unfortunately i live in Europe......i hope that come out in some European site....'cause i've got the customs......i saw are 155$ + 30$ ......185$ in total.....with 190$ they asked me 60$ of customs ......but it could be more......and I hope it doesn't sold out and i prefer that on a classic polar 65 also the sound is better like u said in your video

[@lemonaim]

Banger vid :)

[@hakaFPS]

amazing vid

[@StevenP015]

Howdy hey

[@iNullaify]

I bought the polar 65 and you should too, and why you should too? I LOVE THAT GUY MAN

[@Anferneee11]

Is this the best 65% kb with rapid trigger? I was planning to buy wooting but I don’t like the 60% . I like having the arrow keys. Should I get this or is there a better option in the market?

[@amg4160]

what about the deadzone on polar keyboards where the rapid trigger releases at more of like a .4mm than true .1mm. i loved this board but the fixed deadzone on it (even changing it on software) killed it for me

[@Razzlelul]

the .1 is real noticeable even when I change from .1 to .3 even, on a wooting so I don't blame u

[@iNullaify]

The new neo Tokyo dual rail makes it feel way better

[@amg4160]

@@iNullaify “feel” but there is still deadzone yeah? deadzone is pcb/firmware issue not switch issue

[@H786...]

@@amg4160 heck new firmware updates on the website. on a different video i checked they said it fixed the issue.

[@amg4160]

@@H786... yeah i saw that. good that they fixed it

[@Brodixfn]

Is the rapid trigger and actuation better than the wooting? I recently got into valorant and ive been looking for a good board, but the wooting is too expensive

[@iNullaify]

So when you say better, I assume you're talking about pure latency. And no, nothing beats wooting in terms of latency... But that's where these companies shine, it's almost just as good and the actual quality and feel of the board is way better than the wooting. Wooting: Bad case Wobbly switches Bad sound No foam Bad keycaps #1 speed Polar: Great metal case Stabilized switches that come lubbed Great creamy and thock sound Double layer of silicon for sound Great dye Sub pbt keycaps Great latency, just not the best

[@itsjaesura]

You won't really notice if you don't have any experience with Wooting. Wooting has the best implementation of rapid trigger/hall effect because that's their main focus. All their software and internals are exclusive to their brand and doesn't appear anywhere else (as opposed to Polar65 which is used in other various HE boards)

[@SammyRBLX1]

@@iNullaifyall the things u said about wooting i like

[@KakunouGataJurei]

​@@iNullaifycry more 😂

[@coyotex850]

its a nice board, the only thing is where does one get replacement switches for this?? arbiter studios dont even sell the switches separately and im pretty sure this isn't compatible with any other HE switch on the market

[@iNullaify]

That's a great question, I can ask them and hopefully they'll put some up on the website

[@purplevz]

I'm from Brazil and I'm in doubt between the lamzu atlantis pro or this polar 65 neo tokyo keyboard, which do you think is better, what are the particularities of each one?

[@iNullaify]

The Lamzu comes with silicon keycaps that yellow after a few months especially in humid conditions like Brazil. So 100% the polar 🇧🇷

[@purplevz]

@@iNullaify youre best, ty bro!

[@Edificados7]

Meu amigo. O lamzu pro é muito melhor cara. Não sei se depois de um tempo as kycaps amarelao mesmo por ser cilicone. Porém em construção de acabamento tatilidade a lamzu é disparado a melhor

[@babayaga.666-v8x]

the problem with wooting is the time it takes you to arrive ......and if u want the aluminum case u have to pay 130€...319€ for a keyboard(189€+ 130€).....but IMO also the sound sukcs.....i saw modd with 15€ of keycaps that made the sound better lol....i've got varmilo victory, 190€ with aluminum case 8k polling rate and also the sound is great and is very good keyboard...i'm curious to try polar 65 nice review

[@iNullaify]

Thanks a lot, I agree with everything you said

[@babayaga.666-v8x]

@@iNullaifyyou're welcome :) another interesting keyboard looks lamzu atlantis also if i don't like white color i hope they will do in black color and with aluminum case .....do will do a review?

[@enricke7907]

hello! do you think its worth the extra $ to get the dual rail ones over the regular switches?

[@iNullaify]

100% making a new updated video! code Nulla for a discount as well

[@Bovineicide]

It's the same aliexpress pcb that EGG, Lamzu, and Higround use with reskinned software lol. No continuous rapid trigger.

[@iNullaify]

It does have continuous rapid trigger, it also has less latency than both the Lamzu and EGG. Lamzu also has silicone keycaps and yellow. Higrounds firmware is one of the worst and until they update it it's bad.. That being said this isn't a comparison video testing all of them. In the US the Polar 65 is best hall effect board you can currently buy without sacrificing on quality. Everyone can have the same PCB but firmware is what determines how good/fast the board is. Also switches?? Only the boog75 is using the same style of switches... Gotta look at the bigger picture and see what product is the best at it's price point

[@jan.tovarnak]

EGG and Polar65 (and I think Higround as well) are using same board while Lamzu seems to be using DrunkDeer board. Personally I would not recommend Polar65 nor its clone (like EGG) because of their weird rapid trigger implementation - rapid trigger works for quick deactuation but it does not work for reactivation (is that called continuous rapid trigger?). For example if I have initial actuation point set to 2mm and rapid trigger on 0.1mm, I can press the key to 2mm, activate it, then lift 0.1mm, it deactivates and then to reactivate I have to press again by 2mm, pushing activation point almost to the bottom - that's really frustrating if you lifted by mistake. That's something I feel in game and it can be quite frustrating. I don't have that with neither Wooting, DrunkDeer, Akko, Redragon nor Boog75, only with Polar65 and its clones (like EGG). For this sole reason I would not recommend this board over others I mentioned. And I have updated firmware in my Polar65 like 2 days ago - still the same thing, I simply cannot configure it the way I like it with other boards. I'm not saying it's bad, but if I'm looking for pure rapid trigger performance and customization, this board is not even close to the top of my list.

[@KakunouGataJurei]

Dont buy that, just save more for a wooting 80 HE and wait. The rest is trash.

[@joshua8590]

so the polar have less than 1ms? but the wooting faster? should i start with the polar 65 or get the wooting 60he+ module with a case & etc???? (i want to game with 0 delay i might go with the wooting module but idk, pls respond ❤️)

[@iNullaify]

if you have the money then go Wooting, overall its better. But for a 2nd place, the value of the polar is unmatched

[@joshua8590]

@@iNullaify so the module ship faster than the whole setup?

[@iNullaify]

@@joshua8590 the polar will ship faster. If we are talking speeds, the wooting has less latency.

[@joshua8590]

@@iNullaify talking bout if i were to order the module and the polar (mailing wise)

[@RyanWolfFerguson]

The keycaps are a straight copy of Keychron's Pixel Universe keycaps.

[@iNullaify]

No, if you check their post they worked together with those people to use the keycaps. It's not a clone or rip off, it's the legit keycaps and they worked together on the board

[@washedJT_]

with the software can you change the rgb for different letter individually

[@Gibby560]

Have u tried the wording as well? I’m thinking about copping this one in the vid but don’t know if the quality in gameplay would be same as wooting

[@iNullaify]

I have, I think the wobble and sound make it worse overall. If you have wooting, no need to get it. But if you are debating between one, the polar is the clear winner. I can promise that. It's incredibly fast, still under 1ms

[@Gibby560]

@@iNullaify ended up getting the neo 65 with your code. Sounds and feels amazing. Big upgrade from my previous board

[@YtBonsii]

I'm in Xbox and got the Tokyo one and I can't change the accusation point on it someone help me

[@mathstravails]

hello my dear youtuber i am looking for my first mechanical keyboard (that is not razer or other huge brand), i would like to know if this keyboard is better than akko keyboards cuz its the one i can buy in a store next to me without buying directly from china (i have this or akko as options help me 😓)

[@iNullaify]

Hey sorry for the late reply. Right now the board is on sale for $105 with code Saturn Considering this price, it is absolutely 100% worth it and I would buy it without questioning... I do also like akko boards, but the polar 65 is really good for being Hall effect. So you'll get the best performance in games too! You really feel the difference

[@FinnWillink]

hey, i have been trying to get in to the arbiter studios website but i have to put in a password but i didnt even give a password, how can i get in?

[@ashy3340]

Tf I follow u on X but I didn’t even know you did reviews… nice vid tho🧐

[@iNullaify]

Thanks mannnn!!!

[@vbrans]

can i still have my F1-F12 keys with this?

[@HXISE]

Which keycaps are this the white and black one

[@Tendee]

Polar 65 or drunkdeer a75 pro? Drunkdeer is 120 dollars, polar is 135.

[@iNullaify]

Polar goes on sale often for $110, just wait for that deal. Also if you like 75% then go for the drunkdeer. But I don't have one, so I can't speak on quality rn

[@Tendee]

@@iNullaify When do you think it'll next be on sale? Also would the Endgame Gear kbd65 he be good?

[@iNullaify]

@@Tendee I don't like the endgame board, it's all cheap plastic. The polar is aluminum. They usually go on sales near holidays or special events. So maybe memorial day May 27th

[@Tendee]

@@iNullaify Endgame gear is aluminum though? Will watch out the polar's sales

[@iNullaify]

@@Tendee oh it's a a thin aluminum, you're right. But $140 is pretty expensive considering the way it looks.

[@RealJonzuk]

windows key doesnt bother me on my hyprland nixos setup unless im scrolling my mouse lol

[@JonCollins-t3m]

150 is a budget board?

[@iNullaify]

for halleffect yes.. if u want a cheaper board then stick with mechanical

[@balakbebas796]

how to remove this keyboard pcb?

[@iNullaify]

i dont do breakdowns, but im sure you can find some on YT or reddit

[@Kalieeee]

Polar 65 >>>>

[@iNullaify]

So real

[@WrldXC]

do u feel like there is any latency difference?

[@iNullaify]

It's all under 1ms so it's extremely hard to tell the difference you set it to 0.1 it feels instant. The only reason I say don't buy wooting is bc it's 2 years old. Plastic case, wobbly switches make the board feel super cheaper compared to these boards. But in terms of latency, you're asking if I can tell the difference between 0.4ms and 0.79ms, and my answer is no. I cannot notice the difference. The steelseries apex pro has 1.23ms and that I can tell the difference

[@Sleepyless]

Polar65 uses a chinese mid pcb with a lot of latency just like yukiaim/egg/highground so its a no, if its not wooting/boog75 stay away

[@iNullaify]

So just so you know the Polar has less latency than the boog. Also meletrix is based in China so everything about it is Chinese. Nothing wrong with China. Also with the recent reviews of the boog all over twt having issues 2months in with the board dying, switches not working, slow support.... I mean idk, I've had my polar since December and I haven't had any issues and I enjoy it way more than my stock wooting

[@altezzaboi9845]

First of all, the latency is the minuscule it’s impossible for a human to notice. Secondly, the boog75 has been proven to have worse latency than the polar65 so idk what you’re on about. Not that it matters anyway. All are insanely fast keyboards. Value wise the polar65 is the best option

[@iNullaify]

@@altezzaboi9845 so real

[@KakunouGataJurei]

​@@altezzaboi9845cry more

[@KakunouGataJurei]

​​@@iNullaifyYou dont have a wooting, stop lying. Otherwise you wouldn't recommend this crap 😂

[@emkienbruhh2191]

how can i buy that tokyo keycaps??

[@user-mn1rs4sy5n]

Genuinely confused about your assessment about wooting vs polar 65. Everything you've said was "wrong" with the wooting are all optional and completely consumer desired. Lets talk about what you claim: $120 for new switches $120 for metal case $20 for foam $40 for lube kit and tools With hours of work for that. Metal cases for the wooting are around $60 and completely optional. Wooting doesnt need new switches, another optional consumer choice. Foam is optional. Lube kit and tools, that polar 65 will need it eventually too, every keyboard has to be relubed at a point. And a lot of keyboard lovers will lube a stock keyboard even if they do a good job at lubing it already. Also cant ignore the wooting sound test clip you have on here, sounds very underlubed. Could be a poor job on it but most people on reddit say the stock lube is great, but like i said many people will lube a new keyboard for preference including the polar 65. My wooting sounded better than any keyboard ive owned out of the box. Was very quiet and switches sounded great similar to the polar 65 sound test you provided. Must have been a faulty wooting or just over exaggerating the typing. And last for the wobbly switches, no clue what you mean by that. Ive taken apart my switches and opened up my keyboard and never noticed that. You either had got the worse wooting ever made, dont own one and just want to talk down on it for its price, or work for this company to praise this so much. The only thing this polar 65 keyboard has better would be the metal case and thats only if you prefer a metal case which many dont care for like me.

[@iNullaify]

we are talking about quality here... the switches still wobble... go watch any wooting video and everyone as well as I says it sounds bad and wobbles... the issue isnt that you care or not, the issue is the price.... FOR THE PRICE,,, you expect a high quality, NO wobble, metal case, good sounding keyboard... wooting clones cost $20-$40 to make without the good software.. the second u make it metal, it shoot up to 50-80 and full cnc is like 90-120 depending on design... the fact the wooting is charging close to $200 shipped for overall low quality is the issue... Wooting is THE BEST in terms of speed, latency, software, etc.... but the actual board quality is terrible. keycaps are thin, and EVERY review on YT says the keyboard has bad stem stability and sound FOR close to $200.... my argument with polar 65 is that you cant, not #1 preforming, but really dang close comapred to the 60he (wooting 80he is way better),,,,,, and you get a good quality board in terms of feel... so while its not the #1 performance or #1 looks (IMO boog takes that) its a good 2nd place in both categories for $115-$155 compared to $190 and $200

[@brysenb]

polar65 sucks compared to wooting so

[@iNullaify]

What makes you say that

[@altezzaboi9845]

Bro bought the wooting before seeing this and is salty

[@KakunouGataJurei]

​@@altezzaboi9845youre coping Lil bro

[@KakunouGataJurei]

​@@iNullaifyYou clearly never had a wooting to say that.

[@Wyn3e]

​@@KakunouGataJureiwhat about some1 who has which is me the stock board is pretty shit the lekker switches pretty shi the stem wobble it's pretty bad due to the switch tolerance and sounds bad yeah u can customise it which I have... spending £180 that's almost identical to the price I paid for the board £175, the only part of the wooting I feel personally is worth is the actual 60HE module they are selling I rather tell people to build a custom or somewhat learn to build a custom with the module hell even that is £135 which is £30 to £40 cheaper than the board built itself

[@YtBonsii]

I'm in Xbox and got the Tokyo one and I can't change the accusation point on it someone help