The BEST Controller For Your $$$ - Haute S16 Review

[@Krackatoa]

To me, Haute is absolutely the craziest come up in the controller space recently, and have the potential to, not just blow apart the entire niche controller sector, but also potentially break into the mainstream peripheral market. Their offerings are so cheap, and their presence on Amazon, at least here in Canada, feels pretty groundbreaking.

[@Krackatoa]

I say this despite not being able to use any of their controllers because I only play on left-handed leverless. 😔

[@woooyeahfunkytime4088]

oh hey i know you from twitter :) yeah my friend just bought a really cheap t13 and he loves it as his first hitbox. it's such a good entrypoint

[@Krackatoa]

@@woooyeahfunkytime4088 We just tell people to buy Haute boards now. For ergonomics, I think full-sized boxes and "splitbox layouts" where movement is spaced further away from attack buttons (With an additional Up underneath the attack buttons), is optimal to avoid gamer posture. Can't argue with price, though.

[@danivalvalsson8174]

@@Krackatoa Why? You have full control of what buttons you want as movement, does the right side slant not fit your right hand?

[@I_recommend_suicide]

@@danivalvalsson8174 I haven't looked into it personally, do Haute devices let you remap at the controller level, independent of the game? I ask because for many games directional input remapping is not an option on console version even when it is on the pc version. For those of us (like Krackatoa) that play in offline events that are often run on playstation, that's an important distinction.

[@kamekaze878]

I DIY'd a hitbox in my garage before all these cheaper options came about but what I did to find a good layout was print a bunch of templates and just mount them on some cardboard to get a feel for the different styles. I'm with Jiyuna on the kitsune size. I prefer the longer bottom to rest my arms. Floating hands always felt weird to me.

[@ApexGale]

it looks like you're advertising those little aluminum pill trays in the thumbnail lmao

[@StreyX]

I've been using the S16 for about a month now because I wanted the extra button for a better placement of Parry in SF6. It's not as comfortable as the snackbox micro(even as a smaller person), but it's easier to set the SOCD and you have the extra buttons. Only real downside to it I'd say is the standard buttons are really tall so it's not easy to slide across the keys which is important if you're doing 360 motions or certain shortcuts.

[@DarkProdigy820]

Commenting on every video before Arakune BBCF combo trials. I made my own leverless controller and tbh I sort of regret it. It's big and somewhat clunky but it gets the job done.

[@angelo6846]

Yoo, thank you for the review! Got mine today and my first impression is that it does not feel cheap at all. My second impression is that its going to take months of practice to match what I was able to do previously on this thing😂

[@fremontholt]

Have been using this for about a month now and it is incredible. Always wanted leverless and can finally afford one now.

[@ItMyWeapon]

Bought this a couple days ago because of this video😂 Got it today and even though i cant jump/super jump for shit, my grounded inputs have never been so clean. Thank you SEAM2015 champ❤

[@SquidSnax]

Just bought Haute M13, solid buttons, feels premium, prefect weight. Recommend over other Haute boards.

[@davose8756]

Only catch with haute is you have to buy a cheap dongle to work on x box/ps5

[@kaigai-nikimajikoi325]

That looks really good and at an affordable price. I feel like I can gift this to some of my friends to get them more into fighting games lol

[@OurLadyOfSlime]

yeah i got the m16 a month or so ago (that's their mid-size one with the enclosure that look a bit more like the kitsune) and i'm loooving it. bit more expensive but like, really pleasant experience thus far.

[@MatronMugrai]

My Snackbox Micro XL arrived recently, my first leverless, I can attest that it is indeed a leverless with more space for artwork. Is it the best? No... Other controllers have more surface area, but the Micro XL allows for more art for such a convenient travel size over the standard Micro. Cost is one thing, but custom art is the other beast you have to contend with

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah the Micros are the best looking once customized. But I like the lights on the MPress, too…

[@MatronMugrai]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI i haven't seen all of the lighting options for the mpress, but I'm loving the Purple Rain effect when I'm not actively pressing buttons. There really is an option for everyone, which is awesome

[@lucianoaguero6795]

Best value leverless out right now, love my mini version

[@Robstafarian]

I wish these cloners would put a gap between the button groups. I am continually glad that my AllFightSticks "stickless split" chassis is powder-coated steel because no one cares about the Hitbox layout's horrible ergonomics.

[@Pestigirioso]

I'm getting my hands on an M16 that a friend of mine brought from USA to our country

[@RenatoFontes]

I got the G16 a few months ago. It's really good. I love the clickiness the switches they use on it, which I think is the only real difference from the S16. BTW, you can connect it to PS5 or Xbox by putting a dongle on the usb port it has. Since the dongle is on the controller and not on the console there's no input delay supposedly.

[@kylehuntxr]

I like the Haute’s I wanna get the T16 since it’s the same size as a kitsune basically

[@nickboyadjian367]

The t.e. was so good on sf4

[@MastaBroshiX]

I gotta stick with my micro, espescially after that translucent purple case they dropped recently 🥺

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I saw that yesterday, looks sick

[@sludgeypop]

I still use my TE. Purchase of the century

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Great device

[@johnwright-b2l]

This is a good controller to use if you do not want a full size fight stick.

[@I_recommend_suicide]

Still can't believe it's 2024 and with all the extra button layouts that have (finally) become mainstream, the pinky button (to the left of the directional buttons) hasn't become more common. All the PC gamers that bind things to left shift are with me

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I never developed those hand muscles

[@exiaR2x78]

Me still being a boomer and on stick haha all these smaller lever less look so handy not having to lug around tho

[@catnekokot]

I snatched one for 40 bucks including delivery (I know right), only problem is that bottom screws are sharp, can damage table or clothes. In everything else it's near perfect, all that remains to be desired is PS5 compatibility out of the box. Also personal perference is there, I liked my custom hitbox sanwa 24mm way more than any keyboard switches - but yep, now I know that for 40 bucks and still can play both controllers

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Crazy how cheap they are compared to everything else

[@FixerFour]

Personally a big fan of the M series over the S series, because the S has cheap plastic that cracks

[@drummachine77]

I’m sorry, I’m forever a pad player

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

No need to switch

[@JerdMcLean]

Not gonna lie, zoomers and these cheating peripherals are ruining the genre.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

And Modern controls

[@cqng341]

I thought fighting games is about reading your opponent and react appropriately. Not about how l33t you can APM your way to victory (analogy to RTS).

[@Pokephantom]

starts the positive review, forgets the name immediately

[@faytx1]

That’s how you know he’s genuine 😂

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

“Letter + Random Numbers” is not a memorable name

[@MEGAWOP]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI they also go by the name COSMOX

[@Cyliano]

It does work on ps5, buy you need to plug in an adapter on the right side passthrough usb slot, a brook converter, magic s ultimate pro/magicboots v1.1 or another ps5 compatible stick will allow it to work on ps5 FGs

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

HUH

[@MasterFaiyn]

​@@ANIMEILLUMINATIThe Brooks wingman converter is a little pricey being that it costs $60, but it makes almost any controller ps5 compatible. I ended up buying the Haute S16 a couple months back and I picked up the converter to use for tournaments. Also has firmware thats tournament compatible for all the major fighting game rulesets.

[@Darksid3c3]

​​@@MasterFaiyn there are cheaper options for convertors too

[@AntoRoberts]

Oh man the TE was so solid

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

GOAT stick

[@GawainSSB]

I miss the Madcatz sticks. I still have my old Evo Fightstick Pro. Still feels great to play on

[@ThirtyfourEC]

I thought it was the Haute $16 Almost converted from pad

[@LeKingCarnage]

It works on PS5 as a legacy arcade stick when you plug in a supported adapter to the usb port on the right side of the controller and turn on some settings on the configurator. It's an extra $20 to $30 but still way cheaper than most of the competition. I got this when my friend hooked me up with a discount voucher and got it for 40$. My wrists has never felt better executing electrics in tekken.

[@shruggernaut]

Oh damn I just bought this the other day. I had the G16 not knowing it had raised buttons and not low profile lol.

[@deelite19]

Got my Haute s16 with t8 release. This is absolutely the BEST leverless for a millennial like me - not just coz of the price but everything. The size is perfect, extra buttons are great, and the fact I can switch back and forth between the thumb button and the up key for up/jump is fantastic. Knocked out the park.

[@DriveCancelDC]

I hit the holy grail, an Xbox 360 original TE stick for 6k yen in good condition, finding the 360 version of it in Japan felt like finding a goddamn unicorn. Might go buy some lottery tickets. Got a 2023 Micro with a d-brake and the TE now, I'm set!

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

TE is a classic

[@kylehuntxr]

It can work on PS5 using the usb passthrough on the side and changing the settings to PS5 mode

[@FGTutorials]

Whyyyyyyyy do all these low profile ABCs have such little width? I don't like pinching my knees together. I've got a layout using the same length as vewlix and it's such a luxury being able to rest your legs anyway you like.

[@Myrmonden]

OH I got that mad catz T1 bought it for 200 USD

[@Living_Target]

If they're using brooks, you could probably drop some cash for the UFB ps5 adapter chip they released. Have one of those in my home made stick

[@lenardEkko]

I currently play fgs on keyboard so whenever I play on box the buttons feel too far apart so I think this one is interesting

[@Ubebread1]

Got the t16 couple weeks ago for $65. 🔥🔥🔥 its quiet too

[@TruxtonTatsujin]

It took me too long to learn stick, I ain't switching now. It's nice that there's a cheaper option for leverless, after investing in a stick that's what always kept me from trying one.

[@k-ondoomer]

It's not bad bro I made the switch after a decade

[@andrewlopez7143]

The smallest one is a b16 and I gotta say it's pretty cool

[@Zenocide]

I guess I would consider myself a stick boomer? I haven't really been using mine or playing fighting games lately but I like having a stick for shmups lol. I should really try out a lever-less controller though. I used to play on keyboard during the poverty years.

[@tokyobassist]

New sticks/leverless need to get with the program and just have modular panels that you can buy separately to change button layouts, etc. The independent scene for stick modding has the right ideas. They just need to put it under one banner. All the big brands has lost their minds on pricing while making worse products (or none at all)..

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah, there’s still no “perfect” controller.

[@RasecFGC]

Haute and Mayflash are the best ngl

[@andrewlopez7143]

Why does back in the day not feel so long ago

[@Duvoncho]

1:31 Hey! There's a few around here who are a couple of years older than you Jiyuna, it aint all doomers and zoomers y'know! Anyway, I recently picked up the Haute42 T16 and it's bloody incredible. Pretty much the same as the S but it's a little bigger. Which is nicer in the lap and you have more space for custom artwork.

[@squaminator]

ain't no way, I'm sticking to stick forever. Screw learning a new input device.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Play what you like!

[@piratekingmurz1067]

Seen 3 guys with this controller at locals yesterday and all of them like it. The only issue some had was that it was small, but all agree it was worth the price

[@prabhu786]

This is the one I've ordered. The setup matches so much like a keyboard.

[@BusyCasual]

I still have a MadCatz SE with the Korean lever and I can confirm the SE sucks so bad.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Jaaaank

[@smhity]

It's working on ps5 atm without an adapter, if you update the drivers on it

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Strong

[@RyanBounedara]

not entirely true about not working on PS5! use a Mayflash MAGPS4 magicboots USB adapter and plug it into the controller's USB port and you're golden

[@andros1486]

Bought the slightly larger version like 2 months ago for ~85€. I already have two arcade sticks and wanted to try a leverless one, competely worth it for that price.

[@user-fe5bm6ot8o]

Jiyuner out here with the monger term$$$ 👀

[@steeplewiththesnakes]

I got the metal $100 16 button controller after seeing this video. It came the next day and is incredible. Wtf. Goodbye snackbox!

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Need to try that one as well.

[@kriegs7]

Snack box wasn’t holding up?

[@steeplewiththesnakes]

@kriegs7 The snackbox is great, but extra buttons are sooo nice for SF6, especially. I still prefer the ergonomics of the snackbox slightly, but the build quality of the haute m series feels higher at like half the price.

[@blooddumpster3427]

i got mine for 35

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Dayum

[@Brunark]

I just got a T16 a week ago for a smaller leverless option. I have a big Snackbox V2 w/ full 30mm and the T16 was a perfect downsize option for me since they have full 30mm buttons too and still has wrist rest space for me that I'm used to to have for lap play still.

[@julberndt]

i have one but have less buttons, is more like the others layout so i got one to try and find out how i would feel like in a leverless controller but didn't wanted to spend too much. Ended up i loved it, can't live without it anymore, every fighting game i play is using it, played Tekken 8, SF6, some anime fighters, even broken one button and was really easy to replace with another ones that i actually bought really cheap too, so i have buttons to replace for years. Taken some two weeks to get used to since i was always a joystick player except for the arcade years when arcades did existed over here but once the jump button was mastered in my mind, now i am happy with it, would recomend to anyone that like me didn't knew if is going to adapt/like it or no

[@catspaw]

Because I'm one of the few boomers that never learned stick and spent all my time playing Neo Geo games on emulator, I really like the Haute B16. It's the same layout as the S16, but it uses mechanical keyboard switches. Has the WASD layout + a segmented spacebar at the bottom.

[@LeHeartly]

Wanted to chime in to be on the SFIV SE defense force. It was the fightstick that I bought where I learned how to play on fightstick for the first time back in 2012, and it's still my main stick currently. The times it wasn't was during SFV which I used a modded XB1 KI TE2 and Hori Rap4, and in S3 of T7 I got an Ettoki Omni and installed the Golden Lever and that's my main Tekken stick. But still to this day my SE is still my favorite. I like its form factor, it's a decent size and I like the slight dip where your wrists rest. Wasn't much of a fan of the TE2, and definitely am not fond of the Rap4 (quality parts but I just didn't like the form factor and the Noir layout). I do love the Omni a ton though. However, I will say that maintaining the internals of the SE is a huge pain in the butt, so at the very least I will say there is valid criticism with that. It's bad enough to the point where I would agree on not recommending it for that reason. So many fightsticks have gotten better with making accessing and maintaining the internals much, much easier.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

The default parts stunk!

[@LeHeartly]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI oh, yes, absolutely! Definitely swapped them out for Sanwa parts, which is still kinda the thing we had/have to do with some sticks like Qanba Drone, 8BitDo, Mayflash, etc etc But, yeah, I'm with ya, the SE has a lot going against it. Yet it's still my fav 😭😭

[@Str8EdgeJesse]

I'm personally a fan of Granola Arcade's stuff and the leverless Smash controller from GRAM. I like using the GRAM for traditional fighters too

[@matts8715]

Got an M16. It’s a little small for having it in your lap but I’ve gotten used to it. Feels very nice and only 100 bucks on Amazon.

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

I got my T16 model, their biggest, and it honestly has the kind of stuff that would make leverless controllers that cost 2-3x that blush from embarrassment

[@funkyscott8274]

I got the haute s13 a few weeks ago and it is the perfect size for me to travel with, also i never liked the up/jump button being on the bottom so the fact that it had an up button above the other movement keys sold me on it.

[@NoOne-nf8cl]

just play on a keyboard already, yea I'm not playing fighting games till mind interface becomes the norm.

[@780Chris]

Really like my Haute42 M16, works great on console with an adapter in the passthrough port as well. Will likely pick up an M16 Plus when those come out.

[@TheUraizen]

I need my sanwa buttons. I have one of those hitsticks because there's just some things I can't do on leverless.

[@Sparda51]

I remember the other Jiyuna Sajam edition , Talked about the bigger version and said it was really good.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

I'm using the big acrylic one from Haute, and it's so good in my hands, specially for the price.

[@sleipnir_8364]

I prefer the mixbox WASD layout with the jump button on top. Some of the Hautes have both

[@raey2960]

Glad you give this a review, I got my eyes on this leverless recently since I was a keyboard player and planning to get a leverless just in case I go to any event in the future

[@Rheecez-_-0064]

I just bought one of their controllers off of amazon cant wait!

[@fugutabetai]

Thank you for saving budget shoppers.

[@kenshin2820]

My ideal button layout would be something like WASD with a button for Space then 8 buttons for moves and macros. I prefer that way more than the standard hitbox 3 button movement then the bottom one for jump

[@javjuegos_8917]

Somebody over here talked about the B16 having that exact layout

[@moonbeam2730]

at these prices, i have to kneel to the hitbox army...

[@adamladanyi9495]

You are still the best fighting game player of all time!

[@Houser45]

These cheap controllers make me wanna switch.

[@A_Brainless_Goblin]

picked one up on sale for 50 bucks to mess around with, aka my what 6th leverlesss smh

[@MissSchala]

Jyaa, the no PS5 compatibility is the dealbreaker for me 😩 Maybe there will be an update though, I hope! I want leverless but just to try, and others are just too $$$ “to try”, but also not sure what a good PS5 option would be. 🤔 Thank you for this though! I like the design and the small size looks just great for my petite girl hands! Firmware update needed though 🙏🏻

[@HushMySweet1]

You just need to use the web configurator tool and insert a little dongle. Something like the Magic Boots v1.1 will work for PS5 compatibility. (and there are equivalents for Xbox compatibility if that is your jam instead)

[@MissSchala]

@@HushMySweet1Oh? Does that work really well? I have a friend who got a Hitbox and also used a dongle for his PS5 setup, but he ran into issues with connectivity. It could have also been the HB acting up, mmm… Either way, thanks so much for the suggestion and detail! I’ll look into it and go from there! 🎉🙇🏻‍♀️ -- Update: Haute have a section on PS5 compatibility and steps to get it to work! Hmmm… enticing!

[@CornadaTV]

What kind of pagan sorcery is this?

[@JiBbo]

algo smash

[@dylanlerian5960]

Tried lots of them and Punk workshop was the first one I really liked until I got my hands on a Victrix and I really like the bigger size of the controller even if I'm not fan of Sanwa buttons at first compared to mechanical switches. Though it's really well built, sturdy and the Sanwa buttons still feels great. I don't see myself playing on anything else nowadays.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Victrix is great for home but too heavy for me to carry.

[@lament8719]

I've got the 42 and its great

[@evilweevle]

Shout outs to the TE. got mine when sf4 first dropped and still works great to this day. Never had to change any parts on the thing.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

GOAT stick

[@catspaw]

Waiting to hear about how the bigger T16 feels in comparison to this one!

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Tell them to send me one.

[@dominicwilliams214]

Saw thumbnail. First thought "what is that?"

[@brayenmorrison3199]

First..... That's alot of buttons.

[@Krackatoa]

A lot of times when labbing, you'll run up against a specific technique where you think "man this would be so much easier if I had an extra button right there".

[@pastpresentfutureTV]

Can I program a button to “back dash” and “dash”?

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Depends on game

[@Analphamine]

I ordered a Haute 42 (it was the only product easily available to me in the UK) to experiment with leverless and it has CRAZY double clicking issues. Every 3rd or 4th button press is a double click.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

😱 Message support, mine works ok

[@Analphamine]

​@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I've asked for a replacement and I'm currently waiting for it. Hopefully it was just an unfortunately faulty one because in my limited experience with it I actually enjoyed it a lot. I've never been good with sticks and it feels a lot more comfortable and ergonomic than a standard keyboard; I even tried using it with some other 2d action games I'd normally play with a keyboard and it felt much better so if the replacement ends up being jank as well, I'm gonna have to fork one out for a more expensive one but £200+ feels like a bit of a scam for these things.

[@PAPALIKO]

No PS5 no buy. Can’t beat that price though.

[@3master791]

the fgc died with hitbox

[@d0k0night]

Why? it's just another control method.

[@АртёмТор-к2ю]

​@@d0k0nightbecause it's esports

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

RIP FGC

[@markj3169]

Haute 16 is for the kids

[@d0k0night]

Respect for the fightsticks, the pad users but not the hitbox people. Right