The best episode in High Guardian Spice (and why it sucks)

High guardian spice has a lot of really bad episodes. However out of all of them which one reigns supreme over the garbage heap?
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[@guardianHQ]

Anyone else find it weird that they live in a world with potions that can change your physical structure along with rings that can transform you into what is essentially an entire different spices And despite all this during halloween people just use regular old costumes?

[@veggsbacon1891]

(Visible confusion as Lisa Frank 420 song plays)

[@thilsiktonix]

It's true, coming from a more modernized perspective. You would think that it would mean someone revolutionized the art of costume-making at some point, via using magic. I'm sure that hand-carved or even magically-carved costumes would be of cultural significance to old magic users, but these are all kids, not to mention new magic users. Some will, but many _won't_ care about tradition. It would make sense to see some hand-carved costumes, magic coming from oneself yada yada yada, as it would be much more intimate and probably of personal importance in some groups/families, but may I stress. Cool. Shape-changing. Magic.

[@lennypayne4241]

A Halloween episode, where all of the people at the party have shape shifted into the character/monster/animal/etc. of their choosing. That sounds like a really good episode plot that the show unfortunately never thought of taking advantage of.

[@XDarkEcho]

Ah shit...I didn't even think of that. Perhaps it's a traditional thing? Though, if I could transform into the creature I'm wearing a costume as, I'd probably go ahead and do that for more authenticity...though, probably more pricey?

[@ryohoshi8445]

Given everybody's demonstrated levels of competency? There'd be a lot of people who effed up and got stuck, and also it would make for a better show and we can't have that.

[@JesseGolo]

Olive stopping to put a bag of flour under a stone kid so when he fell over he wouldn't be hurt is probably one of the top three character moments in the entire show.

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811]

I know it was like there was actual writing in that part.

[@poijnve3912]

taht doenst make sense, becasue anyother people that was doing some form of moment didn't had a problem... you can see that the ones in the dance floor did not fell over, and dancing is skiller than running~ the kid fell over because of the bag of flour in his way that wasn't there before! so yes,i agree. that momevent was supposed to be like you said *BUT* it got fuck up by the visual narrative previous and after that moment xD the moment was supposed to show olive is someone with a good heart, but the show turns that moment into olive being a a**hole hahaha

[@kou7191]

@@poijnve3912 Yeh, the only way she would've known that kid was going to fall would be if he was already tripping over when turned to stone, but if that were the case he would've fallen over the moment he was turned to stone anyways (and possibly shatter) because gravity.

[@SunnysFilms]

@@kou7191 Good thing nobody was off-balance or leaning over or jumping then, either. The sheer scale of convenience in this entire show is off the charts.

[@TuesdaysArt]

I didn't even notice until you pointed that out

[@gabriel_14179]

You are probably the man who has seen the most hours of high guardians spice on earth yet you hate it with such a passion. Love your videos BTW.

[@ItsJustTeddington]

HGS is a content gold mine. You just have to possess the mental fortitude to mine in the hellhole.

[@Netro1992]

Only way to properly hate something is to learn everything about it.

[@tdninternet9916]

Him and LobsterHero. Lol

[@commentdouchery2838]

It's true. It's the definition of a passionate hate. He can't just say, "It's bad," he has to break it down so he can explain the depths in which he hates it. And what's sad is that not only does he likely put far more work into his videos than the show he's talk about, but also right in everything he says.

[@realdragon]

Know your enemy

[@SunnysFilms]

I also love how Sage just assumes that breaking the terrasphere with the spark spell in it would undo the spell. For all she knows, it could have made the spell permanent or killed everybody, but she just decides it's going to work and, in a stroke of dumb luck, it does.

[@jans.g6033]

I wish it made the spell permanent - would've made the show darker, and give Sage the slap on the face she needed that she doesn't know shit.

[@ballmonokumawithseggsylegs8570]

I mean yeah, axe girl did say that you need the terrasphere to undo the spell, but she didn't say you should, idk *break* the thing. I thought you had to do some cool magic stuff to reverse the thing but nope. You just break it. That makes the "chasing olive" part even dumber, considering they could just snatch the terrasphere and reverse the spell.

[@Lesbiwolf92]

Bit like trying to diffuse an unexploded mine by whacking it with a hammer and getting lucky that it's a dud.

[@zanir2387]

In her defense, the trope of the source of the curse being broken to undo the curse Is quite common.

[@legendarybubbles4567]

That would’ve been actually interesting if it did make it permanent, or killed everyone.

[@DatJaneDoeArchive]

You know what's ironic about this video? This is the most positive video on High Guardian Spice I've ever watched. Every video I've seen praising High Guardian Spice never talk about anything in the show at all, they just call it good because it "upsets racists and sexists"

[@PixelHeroViish]

Wait there are people who praise the show for such non-reasons? That's actually so sad to think about

[@whatteamwildcats4033]

@@N.I.A23 I disagree honestly; if you're writing a female focused power fantasy and most of the girls male peers with names get demeaned (snap being male presenting and being cited as the reason she and amayrills'sfriendship isnt as meaningful as sage and rosemary), or portrayed as jerks (cal and aster start as jerks, and end as jerks)...then I'm calling you both a sexist and shitty writer Definitely roll my eyes at people just calling it secret without citing specific examples and treating it as the ultimate "gotcha" moment in the show amoungst the many things wrong with this show

[@ferrishthefish]

The stench of a rotting skunk carcass also "upsets racists and sexists." What amazing logic.

[@pumkin610]

@@N.I.A23 at the very least they have the characters acknowledge that a lot of men in their world are toxic due to their idealization of masculinity above nearly everything else. It's true that men can be toxic in our world but having that one writer tweet about how they hate men isn't a good look for this show's themes. Showing men or women in a toxic light is okay as long as they can show masculinity and femininity in a positive way so they don't look like sexist writers who like to hate on certain genders.

[@victornoel36]

@@PixelHeroViish Yeah, the writers focused way too much on the "message" of the story that they forgot to work on the characters and the worldbuilding. Don't get me wrong, the message of a story is extremely important, but if you don't make interesting characters, no one will care. It's, ironically, just as bad as those cheap Christian cartoons where dialogs consist more of Bible verses that what the character feels.

[@vagrant2863]

High Guardian is fascinating on nearly every level. It's like the complete antithesis of a show like Inferno Cop where everything is supremely likable despite being a show of literal paper cutouts that makes zero sense. If Inferno Cop is a group of talented people getting together to make something extraordinary with the intent of doing it in the stupidest way possible, High Guardian Spice is a show where a group of hacks tried to make the "bestest" thing ever to preach to their audience, only to find that nobody was listening while they tripped on their own feet.

[@richardomilos8686]

İ wouldnt say fascinating. İ was thinking something along the lines of baffling and pitiful.

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

For why Olive couldn't use magic in the fight, they could have made her a former witches familiar. She knew a little bit of old magic because she used to belong to an old magic witch(For extra drama, Sage's Mom's familiar, and Olive is venting anger onto Sage because she's the daughter of the person who abandoned her. She has a change of heart because she realizes Sage is in the same boat, and sees a younger version of herself in the girl.), but she has to use a spark spell to utilize New Magic. She's a trained assassin, but that's the key word, "assassin". She sneaks up on them in cat form and shanks them, she doesn't get in 1v1 duels. She's out of her element, and is desperately trying to regain control, hence the seperating them and picking them off one by one. I feel like it probably should go in a video about the magic system, but while I understand the idea behind always having new magic cause the rot, it irks me that it is always considered the evil one. I think that it would be more interesting to have old magic and new magic still be an environmental allegory, but to be a bit more nuanced with it. New magic isn't a super recent thing. It's been worked on, improved, and is now a functional part of the everyday life of everyone in the country. The rot is still caused, but it has been heavily researched by people like Sage's mom and Thyme's dad. They know how to make the produced rot almost negligible, and to direct it to a disposing ground where it can be removed. The triumvirate wants new magic completely gone, as they see it as a crutch that society is holding onto too tightly, and one that is harming the earth. They want to usher in a new era of Old Magic to keep the planet healthy and secured for future generations. The triad, on the other hand, see New magic as a gift to ensure humanity a prosperous future. They looked their gift horse In the mouth and we're rewarded for it with the prevention of the rot as a major threat, so they teach the next generation to question endlessly and keep improving on what came before. Both sides used to be a singular research team on new magic, but split up over the results they found. Hybrid casting is a mark of a person that is on par with the big six, and a possible new member, as it shows a level of open mindedness and willingness to explore all roads as long as they are useful, and to stop after either becomes a negative, something the big six used to stand for, but their ideals have since been corrupted. Caraway basically puts a glowing target on his back when he save Sage, and the explanation of Hybrid casters and why it's dangerous comes directly from him.

[@aurawarrior1367]

Oh shoot that’s a good idea

[@vsuvi]

I love your concept

[@a.w.4708]

I almost like it, but in this version triumvirate is Just another eeeevil conseervaaatist maaales wiiith moustachees. Which ironically makes the story more clishe.

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

@@a.w.4708 yeah, I realized that halfway through writing it, went "crap this doesn't actually fix the issue I had with it," and kept going because it was still an okay idea without it. It really is easy to fall into "Evil conservative is going to destroy society to go back to the good old days but is stopped by the awesome main cast using new advanced weapons" or "Evil Corporation is trying to hide the evils they've kicked under the rug but the plucky young environmentalist MCs put a stop to them." If anyone can figure out how to make the Triad and Triumvirate opposing factions without making either of them completely good or evil, I beg of you to please show me how.

[@joseroa5243]

@@derpfluidvariant0916 Not easy but plausable it's to make the new magic far too easy, and thereby negating any proper education and creating a likely monopolization of power, any noble could amaz thousands of staffs with firepower to decimate armies and arm ignorants to follow. The "evil" people are seeking control and having the rot as a back up plan to destroy new magic if neccesary, it could be that the forest was ground-zero for said project and while it's awful having a powerfulk eating magic rot could help if neccesary. They are protecting and envestment for something like a self-defence weapon. It could also be that New magic it's far too, well, wild. Most new magic toold, while popular are heavily regulated and sealed to some degree, if people use unregulated new magic it could be what created the rot, while regulated new magic just enchance what's already be r otted (the rot was the first time usage of ne magic and since then it's been controled and hidden to the public) if the truth comes out, the populace will either lose their marbles or seek the visage of unregulated new magic, the Triad and other major powers just try to keep this hidden. it could use some work and some time, but really, anything is better that "new magic is good (?) old magic is bad (?)"

[@GatlingPea32]

I plan of becoming a professor in Fine Arts and Multimedia Arts here in France someday, so I'm thinking of incorporating HGS as a case study for animation and fine arts classes on technicalities in making an appealing show, all while making academic comparisons to actual good animated shows (especially Wakfu, which is made here in France and is a thousand-miles better than HGS despite having a very similar concept) Hell, I might even make a thesis for my Master's degree revolving around High Guardian Spice and the domino effect it created in animation industry, especially regarding production, writing and reputation of LGBT-themed series.

[@therobens22]

You'll pass with honors if you do that lmao this is just so shite that it's really interesting to watch like a fucking car accident it's horrific but so interesting lol

[@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811]

HGS is the Hyatt Regency Walkway collapse of animation.

[@joseroa5243]

you mean the Wakfu who has a really compelling villian with a really grounded backstory and objective? who has bombastic actions scenes (discounting that footbal match) that try to create tory while in the scene? That one who has romanceplott hat doesn't interfere with the larger world? Yeeeah, it's like comparing dog shit on the road with a racer car, that's a little overkill there pal. You could explain why rushing a project by a monopolizing company (see crunchyroll) whom have never tried animation before while also using a major importnat social movement as a stand for profit will only lead to, well, HGS. The LGTB was most likely the last piece of whatever HGS problem was, it's only a thematic purpose for most big-wig if it's an option.

[@veggsbacon1891]

I'm sure your future students will be surprised how screwed up the amurican cartoons are lately.

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

I’d love to imagine the look on Raye’s face when (s)he realizes that you weren’t going to say good things about the show.

[@firemaster9293]

7:50 This scene is supposed to be heartbreaking but I honestly burst out laughing the way she expressed and animated.

[@mycatisasupermodel4932]

The animation is so lazy, it looks like it was animated by a 12 year old on flipaclip

[@snas_real]

@@mycatisasupermodel4932 As someone who animated on flipaclip before, this is confirmed accurate

[@yarasa2k]

@@mycatisasupermodel4932 i've seen better

[@Iluvtocommitcrimes]

@@mycatisasupermodel4932 I'm 13 and I animate on Flipaclip 😭 I don't animate on Flipaclip like that even I'm not that lazy (well kinda) but I've seen worse

[@abyssdrawssomestuff]

That got me in the feels man cause it’s true 🥲

[@sierrajohnson717]

Please don’t stop dissecting this specimen. I’d even take an episode by episode breakdown honestly, you’re v entertaining

[@creativeandfunnyname3744]

I don't think I'll ever get tired of HGS vids. This is just such a fun show to dissect. (He said with absolutely no positive connotation)

[@xiesie_xiesie]

I feel like the creators gave the chars OP weapons and wrote so many spells for each one that they forgot which spells they could cast, so it ended up like Sage forgetting she can fly or Olive forgetting she can fight with her wand.

[@aiiiia9971]

The thing is all you have to do is write it down somewhere and occassionally look at your notes which reminds me I need to do that for my storiesjnajxjq

[@ShinoriDelfrim]

@@aiiiia9971 Yep that’s what I do for ocs

[@ayajade6683]

The shipped these two episodes off to one the studios that worked on avatar the last Airbender who improved their storyboard the best they could. They even suggested improvements like have Olive use magic or have her need to use a regular stick as her terra sphere is out of her reach. Animation can only fix bad storyboarding and writing so much

[@daisycinnimon]

they honestly just should of looked at precure for an example for a progressive magical girl slice of life anime with the mcs fighting evil, especially mahoutskai precure. the filler has meaning, they always have some bit of plot and world building every episode.

[@bigsmoky3985]

Flashbacks of Riko and Mirai kiss in the manga

[@idontknowwhattowrite6905]

@@bigsmoky3985 Oh I didn’t know since I’ve only seen the anime

[@bigsmoky3985]

@@idontknowwhattowrite6905 yeah, turns out Mirai and Riko shippers were right from the beginning

[@yee6870]

have

[@CondemnedGuy]

That would require the show creators to "stoop to the level of japanese anime makers", so they wouldn't do it.

[@redyheady5011]

The greatest minds of a generation making the most hateable thing Sounds almost like Wheatley, but Wheatley is likeable

[@TF2Fan101]

The dumbest idiot ever made by the smartest minds of humanity.

[@Taygon45]

Not gonna lie, you building your entire channel around hating this show is admirable. Like Something Witty building their channel around hate loving SAO into a good show.

[@ThatGamingFurry]

Except SAO is basically SHAKESPEARE compared to this! At least SAO has SOME good writing and likable characters that you can root for, like Kirito. This only has Snapdragon, Purple-haired girl, and the Art-style. That’s basically it.

[@mycatisasupermodel4932]

@@ThatGamingFurry At least the SAO's beginning was kind of good (don't like the show but the beginning episodes are at least a 5/10)

[@patrickfrost9405]

It's like a geneticist looking into what makes a disgusting mutant what it is.

[@anthonyackerman7914]

My favorite episode is last one because it ended on an artificially anticlimactic whimper like this show deserves

[@warhawk9566]

the only excuse I can give the whole "villains want to kill the girls" thing is that, they know somebody found out the "secret" and are basically panicking. Like they don't know the girls are sitting on their ass and doing nothing, they just know the thing they wanted to keep under wraps got found out and they're shitting themselves at the mere thought of it. Yeah it makes them look somewhat incompetent but it would be understandable at least. Too bad the show doesn't communicate that, at all. And with the olive thing, again if the show could've properly communicated it. Olive could not be using her magic because she's arrogant, she's killed guardians before and doesn't think she needs to try on a few students (idk if she has but that's the idea.) or Olive doesn't actually want to succeed. They show her as a "reluctant villain" so that could've played here that maybe the girls call her out on her actions being wrong and she holds back. Maybe it's unconscious and she actually has a moment to herself where she thinks "if i go all out i could end this in a minute. Why am i holding back?" to show that it's her subconscious morality or something. Again if the show just bothered to communicate this shit we wouldn't be pointing it out.

[@zanyzantx]

Honestly, the title really should of been “the least bad episode in high guardian spice” The words “best” and “High guardian spice” don’t belong in the same sentence

[@radicalpollution4270]

Finding the best episode in this show is like trying to find the difference between 12 shades of grey that are off by just one hue.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

- You can tell that this is the first episode where they spontaneously decided "Wait, maybe New Magic really is dangerous, and we should start treating it as such!" Okay, good on them for taking some responsibility out of nowhere, but this is making Anise's and Aloe's talk about why it's okay to get into New Magic (and not question why someone would drop it) even worse in the long run. Remember, that talk was framed like the heartfelt lesson for Sage's side of Ep4, and now the ones telling it REALLY look like clueless fools. - Snap's issue with being bossed around by Amaryllis could've worked if it was actually alluded to more strongly earlier through the series (just like his dysphoria, actually). And it could've made Ryll realize that her bossiness is the reason she doesn't have any more than one friend - and with how loveless her home life is, maybe she doesn't want to be so lonely. - I still think it's funny that Cal is literally the ONLY one raising a stink about Snapdragon's feminine costume. There's even one angle where two background characters are looking at him as if he's gone mad. Buuuuut it also contributes to making Snap's dysphoria seem worse - I mean, if complete jerks are the only ones calling him a girl...

[@sarafontanini7051]

it would be interesting to have the cool gay aunts actually be wrong about something thy were so sure about, gives them depth beyond mentor-like figures.

[@alopex7430]

@@sarafontanini7051 yeah I thought that too. Maybe it could've been framed like as if it felt like a typical heartfelt lesson but turns out they didn't know better.

[@PureCurebyFaith]

@@sarafontanini7051 lol that shit's your definition of cool? what HGS does to a mf

[@alekz8580]

6:00 Thyme: potions teacher, can you make more of this? Potions teacher: I can give you a jar of bleach and ammonia and say I did.

[@MorningDusk7734]

Imagine High Guardian Spice, but Olive is the main character. Instead of dealing with our current mess, we would start right in the plot, with a much more interesting dynamic of a reluctant follower of the Triumverate (or whatever they're called) trying to stop some heroes from generic hero school and trying to follow orders with the minimum amount of cruelty. I was much more interested in Olive's narrative from the few episodes she was in than the entire arc of the Spice Girls.

[@limejelo]

Please keep making these videos dude, idc if it's HGS or any other show, your content is top tier and I was so hyped to see a new upload today

[@wruzicka78]

Thanks for the mild praise. I storyboarded the end of 8 and a bunch of 9 and directed/storyboarded 12. lol But you can only change the scripts so much from what was written.

[@crispychips7161]

i think the reason behind your obsession behind high guardian is because of the abridged series. you have to rewatch and rewatch this fucking show so many times you make these videos to vent (sus).

[@guardianHQ]

You know i think you’re on to something

[@GaleGrim]

11:23 the funny thing is, they could have easily dropped a few lines like "Now remember students, large amounts of magic from large spells can cause disruptions in the functions of old AND new magic, causing spells to fails with dangerous and detriment after effects by disstablizing the Aether field of an area, so if you intend to do magic in such an area with will require much more control and reagents to cast, maybe even too much for one person if the disruption is severe enough" Maybe even have amerilis try and cast something and have it fail when the pertification spell goes off taking her out of commission for the fight as a reminder to the team that "oh right field disruption". there were options is what I'm saying.

[@ishmerra]

You know, every time you start your ending speech it feels like you’re about to begin a sponsored segment

[@guardianHQ]

"have you guys heard of RAID SHADOW LEGENDS?!"

[@user-fg4tn8ot6b]

2:09 Snapdragon's top bothers me. It's because the cream colored part is so close to their skin tone that it looks like they're just using a bra. You can see a bit of the contrast if it's in grayscale. Just not color-wise. :/

[@Netro1992]

... Wait, he is not using a bra?!

[@user-fg4tn8ot6b]

@@Netro1992 Nope. It's a top, but the cream colored part looks like they're not.

[@realdragon]

"All that power without any knowledge" No shit that's the point of weapons, why do you think we started using muskets instead bows

[@dragowolfraven3806]

This whole show is a tutorial on what not to do when you write a story/fanfic/show. The sad part is that there are good ideas here but they are poorly executed. The characters(minus Amaryllis & Snapdragon) are boring and stupid because plot and the magic system is so broken it's insulting. Not to mention all the filler. Plus the magic/combat school has been done to death but much better than HGS.

[@KikiCatMeow]

Honestly, if even the slightest bit of critical thinking was applied to this thing during development, it could’ve actually been decent. All the good concepts this show has are completely unexplored and underutilized. Wish we got more emphasis on the rot or a less one-sided magic system instead of “teacher poisons kids” or “sexist douche who gets his foot broken”

[@sarafontanini7051]

@@KikiCatMeow hell the whole conflict over "old magic vs new magic" could be interesting if it was utilised for more than jsut one character's inconsistent arc

[@SunnysFilms]

What's so frustrating is that most of the issues within this show are so easily fixable. Like Olive not fighting with magic. All they had to do is have the smoky guy tell her that the single use spark spell will temporarily drain her terrasphere, meaning once she used it, she wouldn't be able to rely on magic during the fight. But no. The writers only didn't do anything like that because they thought it would look cool if Olive used her terrasphere as a staff against Rose's sword. That's it. That's the logic. "Because it would look cool".

[@cameoshadowness7757]

What if Olive just liked physical fights? Like she's cat based. They are known to play with their food.

[@dragunova3648]

Olive spamming sleep spells from above, Rose " GET DOWN YOU Ducking Spammer!"

[@nevergonnagiveyouup1180]

These episodes had the only good intentional joke I’ve seen so far It’s when Amaryllis breaks one of the statues of a bird and says how it’s probably just decoration And later in the episode when everyone is no longer stone she’s staring at a dead bird like “oops I messed up.” Maybe I just have terrible humor but that joke was actually pretty funny to me I like continuity jokes

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

The fact that they had to have Olive forget that she has a Terra-Sphere in order for Rosemary to fight against her calls back to yet another major worldbuilding problem: why do Warriors exist at all in this world? Magic is so overpowered that it should dominate every aspect of life, _especially_ combat. Yet the Warrior class exists and is a distinct field of study from the Mage. What do Warriors do that Mages cannot do as well, and better with their magic? Why choose to use a sword over a Terra-Sphere? There were potential answers, but the show wasn't interested in them. Also this shot (6:35) would make sense if he were whispering to a normal human, but Olive is a cat-girl. That's not where her ear is. Oopsie.

[@heirofaniu]

Ah shit, welcome to literally every discussion about 3rd edition D&D. On a more serious note though in an intelligent show given the power of New Magic™ society itself will have probably begun asking itself the same exact question. It could actually serve as a very good personal hurdle for Rose too since it would be a parallel with Sage as they are both trying to keep the old ways alive in a world that has largely moved past them, Rose wants to keep that particular martial tradition alive and prove that the Fighter still has a place as a Guardian that can hang with all these filthy mages and gish fighters. Personally I think that character arc is a bit _too_ anime for my liking but then again this show was marketed as anime and bankrolled by an anime streaming service so the shoe fits.

[@Muna-Jlore0997]

It would’ve make sense if Olive is an ACTUAL assassin instead than of a generic magical cat girl.

[@twistedlight9750]

I did have a thought, but it was also immediately shot down by logic. "She's not using magic to incapacitate because she's the reluctant bad guy!" "No, she's not using magic to incapacitate because she's a moron - sleep isn't harmful, and would take all characters out of the fight immediately - not to mention flight would render everyone but Thyme and Sage (the ranged characters) worthless." The use of magic would have improved the quality of the fight immensely, even basic flight. You want Rosemary to still be the one to inflict a wound? Sure, but have her need Sage's help while Thyme corrals this cat-mage with suppressive arrow-fire into a position where she can't run away. Sage can fly Rosemary up into melee. Why am I trying to fix something that's fundamentally broken?

[@chronoverge]

I'm genuinely surprised at the Pirate101 soundtrack! Currently playing the game and I was like, hang on a second, I'm not in Smugglers, what the fuck- ohhhh.

[@denniswilliams6491]

You know I just realized something. Smoke face is the most dumbest name in the show. I mean I would've given him A name that sort of relates to the show like Chili I mean Most of the characters are named after ingredients so why not. At least that's what I think

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

Could've gone the extra mile and made the demons named after spices, stronger the demon, spicier the pepper. Smokeface would be a fragment of a high ranking demon named Habanero the Dragon's Breath.

[@rooksclown316]

His design sucks too

[@MrAuthor3DS]

What about Bhutan (as in the Bhutan pepper, or ghost pepper)?

[@whiteraven562]

@@MrAuthor3DS well, Bhutan's a country. I imagine the show would've caught even more flak if they'd named the bad guy after a country

[@michaelpolinsky4611]

They could've named em Ghost in reference to the Ghost Pepper

[@ShizuruRavenRobin026]

I'm not sure if you'll see this but there could have been a throwaway line at some point where one of the teachers mentioned where the kids have to be careful when using magic around the festival cuz maybe there's a magical seal around the town to prevent accidents happening with magic especially with young people who don't fully have maybe control over their magic so maybe they put a seal over some of the students or around the area that prevent them from using their magic as they usually do and they could have used that as an excuses to why certain characters weren't doing things like they usually doing other episodes and you could have it where maybe somebody like all of snuck in and temporarily disabled the seal they put on the ground so she could activate the petrification spell that turned everybody a stone and then after everybody gets turned to stone the seal gets reactivated because whoever activated it is maybe outside the city or it just reactivates to the time of the festival is up and that could also stay still explain why all of us cast the large spell turning people to Stone and it could explain why all of and others weren't using their combat abilities to their fullest

[@lethalinjection145]

Bye I'm shifting to a universe where Amaryllis, Snapdragon, Slime Boy and Parnelle are the main four instead

[@Match25]

And it suggests Sages aunts and calloway go to swinger parties

[@Crystalgate]

This show did a very good job at making people hate it, both for good and bad reasons. It's a nasty combination since this muddles up the reason people hate it.

[@coreymay918]

This two parter should've been episodes 3 & 4. The spies angle would give them a reason to not ask the psycho potions teacher for help. Also This would've kept Olive's I'm no killer thing consistent.

[@galacticknight55544]

Olive is my favorite character in this show. In addition to her good qualities that you mentioned, she's really cute.

[@5h3nn0ng]

I just like her bc she is voiced by Stephanie Sheh

[@galacticknight55544]

@@5h3nn0ng She definitely benefits from that too.

[@dariusurbanovic6797]

Why didn't Olive just break Parsley while all of them were looking for her?

[@peropero2208]

Because she knew it would be pointless to just kill the most ,,there to be there" spice girl

[@VaellinTheBard]

I mean, Rosemary is possessed by a consumption demon, so no wonder she can beat Olive alone. Cant wait for the abridge guy to cover this episode. (For those who cant tell, yes I know he is the hgs abridge guy)

[@dragowolfraven3806]

I love the way SmokeFace can just be blown out like a candle if you get tired of him talking.😂 I imagine Olive blowing him out & going " Finally! I thought he would never shut up!"

[@channelofthelost5136]

Hey! Does anyone think that there's a way to fix this mess without making major cutouts? Also without making major changes that would completely ax this project? The overarching plot is obvious, I just need to figure out what to add in order to make it more tolerable (Already figured out that adding a map would make things about 15% easier.)

[@theunfortunateone7488]

Add more specific and easy ways to differentiate old and new magic

[@channelofthelost5136]

@@theunfortunateone7488 Okay, how does this sound? Old magic is basic glyphs, memorizable spells, rituals, potions, and artifacts that store, release, or exchange power from the forces of nature. In order to preform it, a mage needs to connect their life force to the elements they wish to use. This ritual comes at a cost of fatigue, and it is a general rule to replace anything that you've used, thus equivalent exchange is made. New magic is of an unknown power that would secretly be some kind of corruption magic. The only way to access new magic would be through terrispheres. Any soul containing magic can make a connection and on the outside it seems that both the possibilities of endless and that is no cost, but in reality, the magic you're creating is actually corrupted physical matter, and the cost is a slow decent into greed, hollow emptiness and madness. Should this explanation be changed?

[@Nathan-hv4qj]

@@channelofthelost5136 That's a pretty good way of differentiating old and new magic

[@channelofthelost5136]

@@Nathan-hv4qj I'm trying to find out if there are more things to add. In the context of the show the rules of the world are so lose that it's no wonder they're broken every two seconds. I absolutely adore the concepts, but it's presentation is a crying shame. If they actually had a story to tell and did it right than this would easily be one of my favorite shows regardless of animation errors. Trying to fix it is an interesting mind experiment. :3

[@theunfortunateone7488]

@@channelofthelost5136 it’s good only question I’d have is why does magic coming from the individual hurt the earth? Or why are the people filled with corruption magic?

[@veggsbacon1891]

Olive is like the only character in terms of charm and design that I like, even though it's blantly a rip-off from another existing property. I'm surprised she doesn't have a lot of r34, considering the cat girl craziness. But then again, this is high guardian spice...

[@xiesie_xiesie]

She doesn't? That's surprising considering what you can see when only typing some of the names of chars... My favoruite char by design is propably Thyme, but Amaryllis' terrasphere wand is so pretty!

[@shaysworld9073]

Which character is she ripping off?

[@veggsbacon1891]

@@shaysworld9073 Some catgirl from tokyo mew mew, I think.

[@whatamidoing.6854]

@vEggs Bacon She rips off Ichigo from Tokyo Mew Mew, like you said. lol

[@OnePieceObsessed]

I hate cancel culture, but - seriously - it should be totally forbidden to use r34 and HGS in the same sentence. Argh, can't unsee...!!!

[@ohohothisrocks]

What is this festival celebrating actually? This is obviously inspired by Halloween from our world. But what does Halloween mean to this world? Correct me if I'm wrong but people dress up as monsters for halloween to ward off evil spirits. What made these people dress up in costumes and dance around to have fun on one specific night? Is it warding off supernatural elements, I don't know, it's just a random 'halloween' type festival. What are the cultural implications, this honestly could be 2 episodes that really build on the world they're in. But they just squandered it away again. It's also funny because a 'halloween' type festival is so bizarre in their world. So basically rosemary is cultural appropriating dragons (Honestly I think rose dressing like that is completely mocking dragons). Same to snapdragon CA-ing mermaids and parsley CA-ing satyrs. What if normal humans in their world dress up as elves/dwarfs for that night, would thyme feel insulted? Do ghosts feel mocked on that day. Also Thyme is wearing a sort of wolf costume, so is that going to insult the werewolves of their world? I feel like this halloween type festival is placed in there because it's popular from our world. And they put it in without any thought on how this would implicate their world.

[@chimanruler15]

I was thinking the same thing. Like, should these girls go running around dressed as other races, lol?

[@LittleMezzoBird]

To be fair, I think a lot of shows do something similar - introduce a holiday similar to one of ours without actually considering why people in that world might celebrate a holiday like that. They just want an episode that celebrates a holiday without actually celebrating that holiday. I give MLP:FiM credit for actually coming up with a reason that ponies might sing carols and and act like Christmas - excuse me, Hearth's Warming - is a time for being especially kind and neighborly with everyone, but I don't think their explanation of Halloween - I mean Nightmare Night - really made much sense. And it's not like "Holiday Specials" that don't perform well don't exist. *cough Star Wars *cough cough. TL;DR I think that on some level, replicating holidays without explaining them well or thinking about their implications is not unique to HGS. Other shows/franchises do it.

[@ohohothisrocks]

@@LittleMezzoBird for a show that's this badly written, it is glaring to point out. It's the tons of plot points of the past episodes that are compounded. If stuff like transformation/transition magic exists in this show, why would these people even wear costumes. Rosemary could have someone transform her into a real dragon for the day. Snapdragon with transformation magic into a mermaid etc

[@LittleMezzoBird]

@@ohohothisrocks This is true.

[@lobaoguara2332]

olive could easily have just fainted them with a sleep spell since she didn't want to hurt anyone but I think she lacked the budget to buy neurons for her hahahahaha

[@Zentron]

Basically the show relies overwhelmingly on the idiot plot and second order idiot plot in order for anything to happen. It's something that I've seen so many shows take this route in the last five or so years, similar to this was the 2018 Netflix bootleg series She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, in which the plot can only move forward because everyone is an idiot who does stupid stuff.

[@veggsbacon1891]

Heh, bootleg shera. 🗿👍🏽

[@creeperizak8971]

A cool idea for why nobody flys in this episode is some sort of autonomous anti-air set-up.

[@DatAlien]

If only they explained why fighters were even a thing if magic is so great, then that could be referenced to explain why olive didn't use magic.

[@d.j.mulcahy1657]

Pitch: You’re next video essay should be a discussion of episode 12 and why it fails to set-up future storylines, especially how it ends on a cliffhanger and acts like it will continue with it’s own story. In fact, relying on a second season that hasn’t been confirmed yet is probably why the show doesn’t try to resolve any of the plot points in season 1.

[@archived_account]

4:01 the lip sync there though-

[@TomLostWave]

might the best episode but it also has a lot of cringy and useless moments, i love specially how between this and the next episode raye decided to put his oc self insert to be like "yeah i fuck with tons of woman just like irl!"

[@Bopperann]

It's great that you dissect this awful show so aspiring storytellers learn what not to do.

[@milky_fries4693]

The thing about this is, the animation isn't bad because of the actual animation (Mostly...), it's also the storyboarding. When the magic water is dropped, Thyme's reaction is just absolutely lackluster. It shows her tears in the air, but none actually come from her eyes, the shot is static and simple for such a seemingly impactful scene. She doesn't even make an attempt to catch the vial (Despite leaning on the railing in the next scene). A little bit of flow, a bit of foreshortening, and some good poses would make it flow so much better.

[@rosemary2363]

Is the healing water a food

[@Ruthl3ss_c0rpze]

ROSEMARY!! hiii!! ^_^

[@saradawn6924]

Love your videos man. Have a great day. 💗

[@jchoneandonly]

Olive could be so ridiculously skilled that she's just toying with the main cast.

[@rinyukiohara8178]

It's too bad the best episode happened so late and is so... mediocre. If the series started with this type of action, people probably wouldn't have dropped it so quick. For example, an entrance exam fight. My brain is in RWBY mode, so that's all I got.

[@optnskaori1497]

Omg I was just watching another vid of this channel when I received a notif XD

[@Sanakudou]

The cat girl design is a rip off of Ichigo from Tokyo Mew Mew, just colour swapped and with some dress details stripped to make it more bland. There’s having “inspiration” and then there’s just lazy coping 😓 Even Thymes festival outfit is just Zakuro from Tokyo Mew Mew, so they really aren’t hiding their “inspiration” source very well 🫣

[@labbit3574]

They could’ve made it so that they attack her with a coordinated attack to make them look special or some shit, like that scene from Castlevania season 4 on Netflix

[@Benxall]

It was so fucking random how much better the animation got in this episode lmao, that stuff caught me so off guard

[@Lesbiwolf92]

I'm confused about Olive, Neppy and the other cat, Olive and the brown cat seem close and she nuzzles it in the intro and it's always with her but like is it a person like her or is it like Neppy and just fuckin knows shit? was Olive a cat first and then turned into a cat girl or is it a result of her being a cat for so long?

[@SpikedKirby]

Olive is the hottest character in HGS and I'm tired of pretending that she isnt

[@veggsbacon1891]

She's like the only cute one. And that's not saying much.

[@Amphibax]

Catgirl

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Based

[@KrayKrayKrill]

I just realized the main character(s)? are named after spices! That’s honestly really cool considering the show name 😄

[@poijnve3912]

i just notice this but... look: 8:21 chad cat is behind the self-insert 8:27 then he isnt 8:37 then is in a corner cus reason... also by did the dwarf went to the cat? she didn't now the blue hair is going to cast a protective spell, she just went for the cat! she wanted the cat to die with the group? why would she go for the cat and bring him back to the group! it was way latter,when she was actually carrying the cat back when the blue hair pull theprotective spell plan into motion! the scenes make absolutely no sense! also also, alchemy in this universe or polymorph potions are not high skilled stuff! since a cat, a normal cat, could recreated the polymorph potion that he just saw once time... alchemy can't be that difficult, or at the very least polymorph potion... which raises the question of by ginger didn't use a potion to cosplay as a real mermaid?, or hell why do customs exist in the first place, they can shapeshift! you don't need customs, they can drink a potion to turn into whatever form they want!

[@pancake5906]

That Outro was awesome

[@kirbymario2633]

oh boy new video

[@kharitheblueanteater9592]

Honestly now I want the scene in 9:55 to be given that cartoon running sound effect she’s so gosh dang fast and the animation is so horrid on her yet she fits the cartoon running sound effect

[@SaffronicSaffron]

What I find tricky with this show is that I find it so hard to pick out which proportions or perspectives are wrong it's like it's trying to trick my brain say "the animation and perspectives are ok" but I know it's not. it's crazy.

[@mycatateit284]

love the outro

[@dh599]

Really enjoy your videos even the

[@OcioCamaraMx]

ok I loved that video ending, a more intriguing clifffhanger than the serie's finale

[@horlzonline1131]

Great video! Also, I hear that Wizard101 music... Good taste.

[@HisRoyalMajestyKingofWeedshire]

I’d like to point out that Olive’s staff clearly has a spike on the end when it shows her jabbing Thyme in the ribs, when it should’ve gone right through her instead of just knocking her out.

[@testedcatgaming7714]

I think the ending is the best so fare, I like how the video didn't just end suddenly.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true

[@ruikamishirosbf]

4:47 i just realized that when the girl in the dino costume (forgot her name entirely lol) turns her foot, her shoe magically changes pattern clarification: the white part in the front turns red

[@LillyWhiteFairy]

Well at least axe girl looks adorable in her pirate costume.

[@improvwithlions4173]

I see these clips rolling in the background, and it makes me wish this show was good. I'm one of those people who likes the character design and doesn't mind the rough edges of a project like this. I saw some comment from clownfish TV that said the first episode is watchable without dialogue, that's pretty much where I'm at with it 😬

[@Bladezeromus]

You know what, do the Guardians even know about the rot? If they don't, how is that even possible? If they do, why has no one gathered healing water to heal the forest? If someone has and it didn't work why didn't they tell Thyme and her dad?

[@gtf234]

Part of that problem is the show was trying to frame it as being an isolated problem the rest of the 'world' has yet to encounter- like the rot hasn't overtly spread outside the fairy woods yet. Thyme acts like nobody would believe her if she expressly went for guidance from the faculty- and she acts surprised when she finds a tree on campus infected with rot. Which harms the setting and narrative more than they realize since it just makes the Guardians as an entire organization look like incompetent brainlets...when that clearly isn't the intent since they introduced an evil counterpart in the last episodes. The Guardians end up looking like they have no idea what is happening around them, or they're entirely morons that know about the problem, literally have a possible cure under their campus, but have never thought to try to use it despite knowing it basically is a plot convenient cure-all, said right there in the name

[@fedyfabuh3100]

You put more thought into this show than its own creators lmao

[@christiandidonna8808]

For the longest time I Theo gut your icon was s shrimp in sunglasses

[@robmitch4085]

I asked the same question (also when I came across people that didn't flip the table from the question) and the best response I got is she was showboating. She didn't use magic agents the sword fighter because she wanted to show off that her skill is better. But that's still bad because even a show boater would taunt by blasting some spells or hell using the magic to demoralize. But I did get another one as well. It's the...Most plausible but least satisfying and easy to not like but accept. She was not using magic to fight because her form takes magic to keep and her turning everyone to stone is using a lot of mana to upkeep. Small things like stealing a bottle is trivial but flinging fire would burn the mana too fast leaving her with a failed mission.

[@miser2570]

This series core problem isnt even the budget, it isnt even the bad quality or shit dialogue or characters, it is that, in the authors efforst to include their propagandistic views in the series THEY QUITE LITERALLY CONTRADICT THE PLOT THAT IS BEING FORESHADOWED. Its like the whole scene of Sage cousin trashtalking her mother because she became a "conservative" hipocrite even thou she experienced the awesomeness incredibleness of new magic and that everyone has to use new magic because its so awesome omg. without even in any form givng the point of view of the mother and why would she change her views when she grew up, is all around obvious in its intent, and Sage just accepts it without question (and then sage mary sueness shenanigans ensue). But then you have the heavily hinted fact that the rot is caused by the new magic, LITERALLY THE STONES ARE CALLED TERRASPHERES, like, it isnt even that suble, the spheres have "nearly infinite power" because they literally suck the power out of the planet, its a fucking alegory to petroleum its not that hard. But they are making a comflicting message that "new magic is omg sooo good everyone has to do it, its so awesome omg" like, in such an overt manner that they arent even saying it for the plot but to the viewers, which if it wasnt the case wouldnt be so bad, and then at the same time they impliying the overexceding use of new magic is going to bring collapse, which correct, that is how irl things work, but they do it in a way it is not complementary to the narrative, like two points of views, it is contradictory narrative to the viewer, because everyone in the series goes with the new magic without question and never show anyone really questioning it, nor Thyne when she supposedly should, nor Sage when she should, Sage only questions it when it is convenient to make a Mary sue moment, and, i doubt they came with that idea because of the simil to petroleum, they came to that idea either because someone gave it to them and they are dumb, progressive idealists wouldnt think past conceptual premises, or they just stole the plot from some other anime and dont realize what they are saying is contradictory to their own personal ideals and what they clearly are trying to say in the show.

[@miser2570]

i dont know, it feels like if someone went and copied Nausicaa of the valley of the wind plot , a prety anticapitalist plot (for which it was heavily censored in USA and for extension in any country translating the american dub) revolving around how we must return to nature what we take from it, how we are part of nature, and how we humans will fall well before nature does, that our actions are just another phase in the total life of what nature constitudes, and it will get past it, while we will not. Then you take this plot, remove the characters appreciation of their own enviroment, whithout taking away what that enviroment communicates, make all of the characters claim the forest is evil and go all nuts against the forest, and once everything is burnt them going away just as a happy without any consequence, yet again, without removing the subtext seen throu the enviroment and background interactions,

[@DylboScratchins]

I would have liked to at least have seen a taunt at the start of the Olive fight to ground her not using magic. "Some warrior you are, I think I'll save my Terrasphere for a real threat." something like that. Anything, really

[@thealexellucas]

Y’know what, the magic system in Ojamajo Doremi is better than this. At least they have relatively consistent power scaling, limits, and restrictions. Apprentice witch magic is significantly weaker than actual witch magic, maturity is linked to power level, forbidden magic gets punished (if you heal someone you receive the injury and if you alter someone’s thoughts you end up in a coma). Not to mention in the first season the material the main characters use for magic is also money in the witch world so they have to make sure the store they work in succeeds or they won’t be able to cast magic to pass their apprentice tests, which becomes an issue several times. Edit: I would also like to add that this is a comedy series aimed at children that handles mature and disturbing topics such as death, divorce, anxiety, and grief amongst many others far better than high guardian spice could ever dream.

[@A.J357]

i just realised that sage blushed at tyme when tyme picked her up

[@mokivalera3563]

The death note music in the background is on lar

[@weedlakas9419]

They really said I won't animate this unless I add my Tokyo mewmew oc

[@Trebxable]

the latina cat is the only good thing in this show

[@Da_mutha_peckin_H.A._double_T.]

Soul Eater NOT did almost this entire premise far better. I was the perfect example of cutesy slice of life that goes from 0 to 100 real quick.

[@downindeep369]

The more I think about it the better your magic rework for this show seems. Like we have Olive not using her magic for this fight, well she depleted it with the whole turning everyone to Stone thing.

[@XDarkEcho]

I know it's too much to ask of the show, but I have no idea how none of the teachers noticed any massive magic activity, like that stone spell Olive was charging up. Given that they're trained Guardians themselves, wouldn't they have a "feel" or something similar to magic like that; and it's not like she was casting small spells or anything, it was a HUGE Magic Circle, lightning crackling, etc. Though, they did mention the teachers were drunk off their asses, it didn't really look that way; and why don't they have guards patrolling around in an event this big? There's ALWAYS security at events, to make sure people don't start fights or harm others, but yet...none here at all. I know, I know, it's so the girls can be the ones to save the day and all, but sheesh it just doesn't make a lick of sense.