The BEST Game of ALL TIME?

Coney rates the GameSpot Gaming Hall of Fame and gives his input on what the best game of all time actually is.
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[@JerichoTheCity]

As Coney pushes 50 years old, it's important for us to look back at the good times and appreciate the time he has left with us.

[@atwistedb]

50? He's in his early 60's by now.

[@MonkeGeek]

Early 60’s? He’s basically 70

[@DoodleDonkey45]

@@MonkeGeekmight as well round that up to 100

[@ghostkill221]

In bejeweled's defense, it was like tetris. It just didn't copyright the gameplay, and a DIFFERENT company ruined it.

[@Skwiddd]

47 years old, he was a fucking kid..

[@porkloin1826]

I like how instead of placing the games properly in tiers and explaining his reasoning, coney insists on making new tiers for literally every single game

[@z.t.9491]

Its not a coney tierlist without way too many unnecessary tiers.

[@Creepo_J]

​@@z.t.9491 With paragraph long names

[@fluxxi5289]

I love “if sonic never existed nobody would notice” STRAIGHT into Sonic Frontiers music in the background

[@BuckyBuchsbaum]

Which I didn't even notice was from Sonic lol

[@castform7]

I think most of this video is Sonic music. It's like any coping Sonic fan (like myself) says. Say what you will about the games, but the soundtracks are almost always fantastic.

[@Color_Splsh]

Coney editors seem to love using music from series Coney hates.

[@UltraPaperGamer]

@Briggetyt I mean.... Sega wouldn't be a thing without Sonic, so a bunch of people would notice when a bunch of popular games are just... not there. Also what a lame world to be Isekaid, like instead of ending on a magical world or some futuristic place, You end up on Normal Earth, 2020ish, but some games don't exist.

[@l.a.rodriguez9581]

Ice Cap Zone from Sonic 3 goes hard.

[@FriendAlias]

I thought it be fun if this video had all Sonic music for no particular reason 🙂 00:00 Frozen Factory Zone 3: Double Down - Sonic Lost World 02:28 Spring Emotion (Beta Version) - Sonic Runners 05:40 Skyscraper Scamper (Night) - Sonic Unleashed 09:24 Honeycomb Highway - Sonic Lost World 13:15 Cyber Space 3-2: Go Slap - Sonic Frontiers 15:34 Quest: SOS Backup - Sonic Frontiers 17:56 End of The Summer - Sonic Runners

[@castform7]

Sonic is a focal point of discussion multiple times here. Why not just use his music alongside the video?

[@CharlieCreedonWells]

My GOAT right here

[@liamm113]

Was hoping on a whim someone had posted the music, thank you mr editor

[@kaplooeygames8515]

Go Slap is a goated choice

[@ChristopherMoom]

On one hand it's cool seeing a list of the background songs that were used, but on the other hand now I'm a little salty about most other videos on the Coney channel because it kinda feels like this could've been done this entire time, yet it hasn't

[@bulb9970]

Microsoft Solitaire Collection is something I'd never think of including in a list like this, but it makes perfect sense. My mom used to play this religiously when I was a kid and even I thought it was fun. Grabbing the attention of someone who has never played a videogame in their life is an honestly impressive feat.

[@xandertreelimb]

Once they mentioned it, I literally pulled it up on my computer. Obviously not the best game but it scratches that itch.

[@secretshadow9515]

About the Pokémon thing, Japan originally got Red and Green. Then Blue was released later first as a prize then sold on shelves (bug fixes and sprite changes). Then, in the USA, the Red and Blue we got were based off Japan Blue but sold to us as Red and Blue.

[@lancelee338]

Was Japan’s blue based on red or green? In terms of exclusives

[@secretshadow9515]

@lancelee338 from my memory they had different exclusives from the other 2, but I don't know for sure.

[@Ultradragon16]

If I understand correctly it's basically the equivalent of what Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum were to their respective generations in Japan, but then like you said they based the US release off of Blue's updates

[@secretshadow9515]

@Ultradragon16 pretty much, except the changes are more minor than Crystal or Emerald

[@chrislenhard2702]

This article is based on an exhibit in the strong museum in Rochester NY, and I worked there! Very cool place to visit if anyone gets the chance! (There’s also a melee setup in the exhibit lol)

[@drstclair]

They're cooking with that Melee setup!

[@CharlieCreedonWells]

That’s my hometown! Love the Strong.

[@noahnewell2131]

I was wondering if this was based on the Strong! I love that place.

[@Kaiser25]

It's insane that after watching the whole video I realised Super Mario 64 wasn't mentioned once

[@OmegaGlops]

I love the music in this video, Coney! I didn't realize you were such a big Sonic fan! 🙂

[@skapenguin]

Bro, Halo had Lan parties. That shit was HUGE for it's time.

[@ghostkill221]

Yeah Halo is heavily responsible for multi-player gaming. It proved that there was a desire for players to bring multiple consoles together, which was why the online gaming came to be

[@colmecolwag]

yeah, but also how many other console games have you seen built around LAN parties since

[@castform7]

I genuinely agree with the Tetris take. Before I got into the game, I didn't get the hype but when I was bored in one of my highschool classes, I booted up an online version and played at least once a week for the next 9 months. That game is so much fun and definitely deserves HoF status even today.

[@METAS0MA]

I love how Coney refuses to touch JRPGS and says they are bad, then plays 1 JRPG (FF7) and goes "This is the only good JRPG" Tale as old as time

[@glctcthnkr8059]

Same with Persona 5 nowadays lmao

[@netapel2625]

Chrono Trigger is infinitely better than FF7, it's sometimes hard to listen to Coney talk about games because he's obviously a Nintendo guy.

[@IDK-bk1fq]

​@@netapel2625 ff7 is a playstation game, while chrono trigger most popular versions are on nintendo consoles. What are yoy talking about

[@thenoseguy]

​@@netapel2625Bait used to be believable...

[@SmackersLP]

The old dunkey strat 💀

[@ckorp666]

13:06 if sonic never existed, u would notice fewer pawpad keychains at networking engineer conferences

[@netslamders6803]

Super Metroid has the single most rewarding learning curve in video game history and I will die on this hill. It's crazy the devs made an game that started an entire genre of environmental storytelling and exploration-based puzzle solving, but sprinkled hints of an entirely different game hidden inside of the first game where the goal is to smash the first game's intended path into a thousand million pieces. It's like a massive rougelike hidden inside of an action-adventure sci-fi epic where each layer of the skill expression iceberg allows the player to progress through the map in a completely unique and satisfying way. You start by doing the 4 bosses in the intended way with the intended items; once you start experimenting with the movement you realise you can reach bosses without some items or you can get some items early; a little deeper and you realise you can reach bosses while skipping quite a lot of items or you can grab quite a lot items early; deeper still and you realise you can begin doing the bosses slightly out of order; deeper still and you realise the order that you do the bosses in is basically optional depending on how good you are; even deeper than this and you start doing Reverse Boss Order runs where you do the 4 bosses in the exact opposite order of what's intended. And doing all of these major skips isn't rooted in ultra-specific 'tricks' either. Instead, how much you can break the game is entirely dependent on the versatility and optimisation of your movement. Sure, you can learn a tech that let's you skip an item or whatever, but that tech you learned can be applied to your general movement throughout the entire game to fly through rooms even smoother. I'll admit that Super Metroid feels clunky these days for newer players and I empathise with those people, but in my eyes it only makes the transition from 'first-playthrough movement' to how incredible samus feels to control once you know what you're doing even more satisfying and is another reason why Super Metroid has the most rewarding learning curve of all time. With lots of speedrun games, the top level gameplay becomes homogenised where players are trying to do the same things and the only difference between them is how successful they are. But in Super Metroid, all of the top players have completely different playstyles and have complstely self-built strats and self-built backup strats for each room for different scenarios around how many resources they have and stuff. It goes so far that I'd say that SM has the most player expression of any speedrun on the planet and it isn't remotely close. The skill curve of SM is like an asymptote where the skill ceiling extends infinitely high and each small improvement has real tangible effects on how you can choose to progress through the game. I truely believe that people who played the game just once only experienced like 20% of what makes Super Metroid so fun, and the fact that those same people say it's one of the best games ever made despite this just shows how impressive it is as an artform.

[@EyeOfArgus]

Spitting straight facts

[@ezmoney4598]

Was this your dissertation at Yappington University

[@netslamders6803]

@@ezmoney4598 I got a B- 🥰🥰🥰

[@netslamders6803]

@@ezmoney4598 idk this was cringe and youre right

[@Moonnikill]

​@@netslamders6803nah talk your shit man be cringe and be free

[@lukes.854]

Not even 5 minutes in and I hear one of the most rancid videogame takes i've ever heard 10/10 coney video

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

The editor of this video loves Sonic music and I just want so say thank you!

[@ElbyHere]

I played Doom and Doom II for the first time just last year and that shit still slaps. "Why play it when you can play Call of Duty" might be the absolute worst take I've ever heard in my life.

[@zobbledobble599]

The way Coney makes tier list with a bunch of niche tiers makes my brain hurt, but I can't look away.

[@antares4731]

it's like a car crash

[@ThatRedHusky]

"Have you ever played Doom now?" Yes coney... theres a MASSIVE doom mod community that has been ongoing for 30 years. And map packs like Sunder and Auger;Zenith hold up and smash some current fps. Also... goes to bat for Halo online play. Guess whay fps had online play that essentially invented online FPS battlegrounds? FUCKING DOOM.

[@GeraltOfNivea]

I played Doom for the first time in 2023 and was flabbergasted by how good it feels to play.

[@mrmediocre848]

Shouldn't be hard to play Doom, considering the amout of hardware people get to play Doom

[@dave9515]

@@mrmediocre848 You can play Doom in other games too.

[@SuperLegendOfBros]

Yeah bro is smoking crack on that Doom placement. But that’s a Coney tierlist for you.

[@z.t.9491]

honestly i feel like coney would argue that it having mods means the game sucks because "you need mods to make it not boring"

[@BrodyAIM]

"Sonic had no cultural impact," Coney, Chrischan's entire existence disproves this, king.

[@kaloncpu57]

Sonic as a character and franchise has plenty of cultural relevance, but specifically Sonic 1 is not something people are bringing up nearly as often as games in other tiers.

[@ImTheGuy]

Chris chan is negative cultural impact, their existence actively makes culture worse.

[@shanetracy4318]

eventually coney is going to make a tier list with 100 games and 100 tiers

[@thraxus6661]

Saying Halo had no cultural impact is crazy, it's THE first person shooter that changed the genre to only be able to hold 2 weapons. I don't think it was the only one that did it, but it's what shifted everything

[@keithlynd]

The Video Game Hall of Fame is in my home town - one of the more interesting things in there is Darktooth's (#59 2018 MPGR) Gamecube controller and genesis attendee badge. In a glass case. There's an interactive display that will pull up a picture of him playing doubles against Rishi and Llod as well - it's so random, every time I see it it cracks me up lmao

[@NathanBrownisawesome]

That is really funny, and i low-key wanna go to see that now

[@Xanek]

Barbie being in there in GameSpot's gaming HoF seemed so weird. It just stands out so much compared to literally every other game on the list.

[@ImTheGuy]

It single handly created the genre of dress up flash games. It is a true revolutionary

[@mikeychrisanthus9948]

14:52 This is like part IV of “Coney in good intentions but wrongfully puts down Super Metroid in a KZbin video.”

[@byrontheusurper6505]

Pokemon rlly invented the wheel a few decades ago and have been coasting off that high ever since

[@thebleachbartender1312]

Coney just cant make a simple tier list with A,B,C,D... as the tiers instead making me read a paragraph to tell me "game sucks".

[@wizardswine4621]

Those goosebumps games messed me up. As a kid I had nightmares for weeks about getting lost in the woods and being brutally and graphically disemboweled by the werewolf. I looked at the game again recently and it's just some guy in a suit who looks like a goofy ahhh furby that makes cartoon boing sound effects when he hits you. Kids are dumb as fuck.

[@sparklyskittles6367]

bro halo was the first fps where we actually used the other stick to aim. edit: woops that's just not true, but it is often sighted as the game that created the modern FPS formula

[@ne2359]

If xenoblade came out in 1997 like ff7 he'd be calling it the greatest game of all time

[@wumbojet]

I mean yeah, that's the funniest thing about people who hate jrpgs, everyone has their one: "okay but this is one of the best pieces of interactive art ever made", for coney it's FF7, for dunkey it's persona 5. But let's be honest, Xenoblade came out in the 90's, it's called xenogears, the things that make Xenoblade what it is are it's mmo-like elements that just didn't exist at the time.

[@grunkleg.2934]

​@@wumbojetThe brains of most normal people aren't equipped to handle more than one JRPG

[@goggles8691]

​@@grunkleg.2934sometimes not even that much!

[@invertebrado]

The only thing old DOOM have that pulls it down is old fps controls, and even then, I think it is fine. Because if you can play it as a modern FPS (which is very easy, GZDOOM and the steam port already does that) it just is an amazing game. Also, Sonic created momentum based platformers, or any game has a focus in going fast and having a goal more about speedrunning and pathing, than it is about just reaching the end of the stage.

[@josiahmoteberg3210]

We're tierlist guys of course we keep adding more tiers

[@Evilmau555]

We're tierlist guys. I'm gonna put your favorite game in F tier because I felt like it

[@hidood5th]

Bro is crazy for saying there's no reason to play Doom when it has a 30 year old modding scene that no other FPS can compare to. It BUILT modern PC gaming as we know it.

[@buff00n3ry]

Jumpstart 4th Grade was my "Goosebumps" PC game that was surprising scary. 1st through 3rd Grade was animorphic animals in whatever woodland / fantasy adventure. Jumpstart 4th Grade was a horror island you and your classmates got whisked by witch who then morphs your friends into monsters, forcing you to endure the island's horrors escape and regain their humanity.

[@leonardchurch814]

Coney is smoking CRACK when he says Halo is the Avatar of video games.

[@Evan-xj7eb]

Literally revolutionized FPS games with it's story and mechanics

[@ALloydRH]

Sonic has had WAY more influence mechanically in the indie scene than mainstream AAA. Freedom Planet 2 and Spark 3 are peak platformers.

[@satan-kun8974]

Hadn’t played the first doom till like 5 years ago and found it immediately apparent that it was a very very good game

[@satan-kun8974]

Probably the only time I’ve touched an fps in my life though so take that as you will

[@daynemajboroda2796]

Yeah, I played doom 2 for the first time since the 90s three years ago. The game is so clean and well crafted. Even plays nicely on a contoller.

[@CasualChris247]

the amount of sonic music in the video is hilarious considering the things said about that rat in here

[@castform7]

I like how Sonic is just a continuous point in this video. I understand where Coney's coming from since mostly brought in other animal platformers in terms of games but the franchise is still recognized very well to this day that you can't call him a fad. Sometimes I myself, a big Sonic fan, wonder how he is so generational. I know there's something there, I just haven't found that specific "thing" that the public latches onto yet.

[@ALloydRH]

It's anime. Sonic is anime. That's literally it.

[@dataecto6135]

3 month old comment i know but really coneys point is that Sonic is culturally relevant but he hadn't had a huge influence on general game design/development. I feel like the category should have been called "Not Design Relevant" or something because that better gets his point across as for his point as a whole, I kinda lean on agree with him because only Sonic is Sonic, but then again there are a lot of fan games about that genre + sonic inspired games. But those are typically seen as underrated

[@betterthanbrooklyn5806]

love how Coney has like pretty obviously reasonable takes like his probably normal distaste for JRPGs but expresses it as if absolute and people get HEATED. I will NEVER get tired of this content

[@KuberDuber]

Never make another tier list ❤

[@AccelgorTheNinja]

We found the sonic fan

[@FlamingZelda3]

This is maybe the most intellectual discussion I've seen on this channel

[@17raysplays29]

Why would I play Doom over COD? I used to hate FPS games when I thought they were all like COD and Halo, then I played the original Doom. Now I love FPS games, because I learned that there were actually fun ones.

[@orange8175]

no, the actual problem is that you played cod.

[@acehasgreed]

Every time Coney does something like this I have to remind myself he's an oldhead

[@ghostkill221]

On behalf of other Oldheads. Please don't put that on us. His takes do not represent us.

[@CharlieCreedonWells]

Sonic vs Mario is the entire reason the term “Console Wars” is a term we still use now lmao. Gaming in the 90’s would absolutely not have been the same without Sonic giving Sega games that boost in popularity.

[@TaviusTV]

My grandma used to play the shit outta Solitaire and my mom OD’d on Bejeweled/Mario Bros., lol. So funny, fr.

[@biivamunner3122]

the determination of chat to try and make coney combine some of the tiers is commendable

[@deester7914]

Coney when is the kanye collab

[@Akaykimuy]

can't believe this Doom slander

[@senminatorobama1461]

thank you for uploading man, you truly made my day

[@VRBOAT]

Man, editor did such a great job with this video

[@byrontheusurper6505]

Started playing oot on the switch emulator for the first time relatively recently and yeah that game still fucks

[@steindororngunnarsson3846]

Sonic 1 is very cool because it's a game based around speed but a lot of it punishes you for going fast

[@XtraLargeCheeser]

There would be no order in this universe if Coney did not organize it into MORE TIERS

[@PikaPiPika]

Sonic influenced momentum based gameplay, you don't just go fast automatically, you have to earn that shit. That's what made it so damn good.

[@cyberace5445]

WAKE UP CONEY POSTED

[@Gxmwp]

I need Coney's editor to give us their music playlist

[@kaloncpu57]

I think a lot of people (specifically us Pokémon fans) still say Gen 1 Pokémon is a buggy mess without really going back to play again to see how fun they are. It's still very enjoyable. With that said, I think Coney got the right placement for most people. Didn't age as supremely well as a Tetris, Mario, or Street Fighter 2, but about as fun as Pac Man. Glad the anti-Gen 1 propaganda didn't get to him.

[@frazfrazfrazfraz]

We've reached the level of clickbait where Coney actually lies about loving games that aren't even included in the list Truly, an accomplishment

[@DAWGIESZ64]

For sonic the idea of someone who goes REALLY fast will always be extremely popular

[@cliffbar_2081]

Ocarina of Time's most significant cultural contribution is lock-on for 3D games, "Z-targeting." HOF worthy for that alone!

[@Yona_The_Sona]

This video shit talks Sonic so much but while theres 4 entire sonic songs in it

[@Yona_The_Sona]

NEVER MIND. THERE ARE 5.

[@invertebrado]

I mean, you don't have to enjoy the games to enjoy the music. Also his editor has tastes different to coney's, as showed through his persona music (and coney hates that game)

[@Yona_The_Sona]

@@invertebrado i know. I wasn’t meaning anything from it. I just thought it was funny.

[@matthewbartlett3442]

18:54 something-wed79 you’re a real one for knowing that song and I gotta know the context

[@GeZz.]

CONEY the legend of Tekken 8

[@nickr1796]

Technically Halo CE revolutionized how shooters are played on controller today. It was the first shooter to use dual stick aiming. All others before were more like Goldeneye controls, where it does most of the aiming for you.

[@coolmancool]

Alien Resurrection on PS1 did it first. But yes I would have put Halo way higher. While Halo doesn't have regenarative health, it also influenced that mechanic with its shield

[@wocky123]

halo was huge cause you could pop it on a usb and lan with lads in computer class, kinda the goat

[@Yeeterora]

Coney is so based for the Sonic 1 stuff, that game is fun

[@ArcadeStriker]

It gotta be Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers, make no mistake

[@_fudgepop01]

Some of these should be places on a graph of “cultural significance” vs “is the gameplay good” where the best of both is the tip right 👀

[@pup64hcp]

Incredible thumbnail work

[@kyro8228]

The editor really likes sonic music and they are awesome for that

[@whateew]

Lmao this needed to be some sort of graph with relevance on x axis and fun on the y axis. Instead, we get 500 tiers: yay !

[@YoItsMekka]

alright guys lets never let coney do this again

[@just-linx8271]

Hmph. Animal Well is in the title but not the tier list. I was excited to see Coney rate it because I heard it's like Halo 2 meets Halo 3.

[@NathanBrownisawesome]

So it's like Halo 5?

[@obviouslyanonymous]

Coney has the unique ability to talk me into disagreeing with his opinion when I originally agreed 😂

[@Bandit0]

Holy about Coney brought up Math Munchers

[@bonoshii]

Sonic runners music 😭😭 thanks editor

[@lemonpledge7198]

Coney the control scheme for literally every shooter every is based off Halo 1. It created that the way we play shooters today and probably will forever what are you on about

[@Shorn_]

Halo 1 was online on PC. It was without a doubt the most influential shooter, single player or online.

[@samasaur6068]

Now we need best game sequel tier list

[@lucapon3287]

17:56 This feels like Atelier music but I can't remember the name.

[@HolyJoely]

I bought Final Fantasy VII after Coneys raving review of it and he’s right it’s art

[@AubreyGAMER]

I don't think I can finish this video, every time he ranks a game it hurts my soul a little bit

[@donniejefferson9554]

I would argue that the Last of Us shouldn't get too much credit for inspiring the last decade of third person gameplay. It's watered down Uncharted. It just took the gameplay from an already popular game and made it less interesting. It definitely did bring about the "man with child" genre and plenty of stuff from a story perspective so it should get credit for that.

[@TedjiroKamado]

What was the last song played???

[@StriderZessei]

End of the Summer - Sonic Runners

[@PattySkeet]

Didnt come off as "the nintendo guy" until that halo ranking.

[@speedie0137]

Im glad Tetris randomly became my favorite game of all time and how pretty much everyone agrees its peak.

[@fritothedemon6647]

New tierlist video dropped i'm sure there will be no controversy at all

[@IMZorkTheDork]

The Zork slander in chat at 9:52 is sad. Bunch of jokers with no imagination.

[@andynachos2045]

Coney it was not very nice of you to lock pointcrow in your basement during the stream, you should let him out.

[@Roseknight888]

Does Coney still release these tier lists to the bird site? Would someone be so kind as to provide the link?

[@xraenon1664]

Hot take, and I will accept any backlash for this, but Wii Sports was only as significant as it was because it came packaged with one of the best selling console of all time. It’s not a bad game - I had a childhood on the Wii, to say that I _never_ played it would be the most blatant lie in history - but it was quite literally created to be a tech demo for the Wii. And as someone who grew up with somewhat strict parents that needed several weeks notice in advance to let their kid go to a sleepover, I didn’t get to hang out with friends and play local multiplayer games often, which was a big draw of that game. If you compare it to the sequel, I he amount of content doesn’t even come close - Wii Sports Resort was so much more of a finished game. TL;DR Wii Sports was carried by the Wii’s sales, and while was a fun game, would have statically underperformed compared to Wii Sports Resort if it was a standalone game.

[@colmecolwag]

I think a lot of the common feeling is that you have it backwards... it was the *Wii* that was carried on the back of *Wii Sports*, and that it was such a unique mainstream success that it existed /only/ as a Wii Sports device for a huge portion of it's playerbase But also yeah Wii Sports Resorts slaps... but it doesn't have any sport in it that felt as good as Wii Sports Tennis, imo.

[@studi0651]

I’m not a Last of Us hater but the fact that they put that instead of Resident Evil 4 which is the only reason Last of Us exists in the first place is crazy. Every cinematic 3rd person narrative heavy game that ppl hate now all owe their existence to RE4 whether they like it or not.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Surprising that Mario 64 and Smash 64 weren't on here

[@masterofdoom5000]

Coney talking about RPG gameplay as dogshit "I'm here for the story" stuff is so fucking infuriating even if he may be saying it as a joke, there are so many people who genuinely hate playing a genre they constantly go to bat for and it boggles my mind.

[@esrohm6460]

real talk solitaire only ever became such a "hit" because it was on the pc. doing solitair with real cards sucks ass. having to shuffle all the time and set up the rows is just miserable when it's not automated by the pc. and i usually love playing around with cards in my hand or rather flip pages of a book than scroll down on a screen, but solitaire can't be considered anything but a pc game

[@stanzenjoyer1275]

Cool post coney, really makes me feel like I’m an animal in a well.

[@funkermonker6485]

istg if shrek smash n' crash isn't on this list imma be pissed

[@jblen]

I'm trying to think of games that you WOULD notice if they never existed, and it gets into weird areas. Like honestly mario i don't think I'd notice for a long while, assuming we still did get platformers in general. Pokémon for sure I'd personally notice like day 2 of it ceasing to exist but for an average person, I still think it's had such a huge impact they'd notice faster than most series. Sonic I kinda agree you wouldn't notice, except the music has always banged. I'm struggling to think of other series that have quite as common of an appearance or relation in everyday conversation as pokemon. Minecraft and Fortnite probably. Maybe I'd remember super smash Bros, even though i don't play it anymore just the idea of every Nintendo character in one game sounds too perfect so at some point I'd think "wait I swear there was a game series like that" and I do feel like melee is THE fighting game so I'd hear about some tournament and be like "Something's missing". Actually on a similar note, league of legends and call of duty join the list, maybe counterstrike too.

[@jherinstamps6874]

Microsoft Solitaire is so valid.

[@deusexmangaka3259]

No. Like Pong, it's the only thing we had until we got choice.