Can't believe the Simca 1100 gets that kind of publicity in 2020! Absolutely amazed, it was our family car back in the day!
@bowlock99013 жыл бұрын
Love you guys, like a sunday dinner with a cup of tea after, just wholesome stuff. Thankyou, Matt.
@coldwarmotors3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm partial to the R5, but any of these would be a treat!
@baron_lawder58863 жыл бұрын
I'm daily driving a 2L Lancia beta coupé. It's a wonderful car, and quite reliable for an old car ! I love it
@marinjeam3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful footage, always loved the Simca ti and others too of course 👍
@MorfieldCentral3 жыл бұрын
If you can include the lancia estate, then you should include the bmw 2000tii and 2002tii tourings from the early 70s... which would then make them the first ‘hot hatch’ in your lineup, before the simca.
@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
True. Starting to split hairs but true nonetheless.
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
Those Lancia's still come after the Renault 16TS, which was sold right through the '70's.
@bennyhannover9361 Жыл бұрын
The information that the Golf GTi test bed had double carburettored engines is new for me and I am born in Wolfsburg in the late sixties. I heard and read the for the Audi 80 GTE was tested a new 1600 cc injection engine and the capacity of the production was planned 35.000 to 40.000 engine units per year but the predecessor 80 GT sold only 10.000 to 15.000. So some engineers at Volkswagen thought what would it be to have a Golf with that engine. It was also shown to chief of sales Werner P. Schmidt and he was impressed by the capacities of the car and saw potential for young customers. The engine was also later presented in the Scirocco GLI in late 1977 and the Passat GLI in 1978 but all these version together did never match the figures of the Golf GTI it was presented late1975 and sold to prominent German customers like Helmut Schmidt, the normal production ran up on summer 1976, the preorder time was at that point more than 9 months delivery time.
@CarlosOliveira-cj3iz3 жыл бұрын
Alfasud TI for me...
@anthonypetty92883 жыл бұрын
I had a 1977 Alfasud ti 1.3 in Arancia Capua just like at 0:0.34, although I never had it fly like that. Great little car.
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
Comment BEFORE pressing play - betting you missed the First "Hot Hatch" - everybody starts with the Second. Edit: pausing during Simca,.... WRONG. The FIRST Hot Hatch is older then the Simca, has more power and bigger engine then the Simca, and is Very Very Much what the Simca's Design was copied from. It's the Renault 16, in TS specification, with 91hp, and a real world tested top speed close to 120mph. In the right hands, the R16TS is quicker then the Golf GTi, and the R16TX is faster again. The TS Spec motor is what Lotus should have used in the Europa. Yes, people do normally start with the Golf, and the Simca is unknown outside of Europe.
@Mexxx653 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who's noticed, with these brilliant lookback videos, and severe lack of any Renault models included???
@bennyhannover9361 Жыл бұрын
How about the A112 Abarth from Autobianchi or is 70 hp from 6.700 rpm and 1000 cc to few for a hot hatch ? ? ?
@liamschannel62943 жыл бұрын
The lancia beta hpe is a nice funky looking car
@biosfearmag3 жыл бұрын
Love my VW MK1 GTI
@kenxiong68303 жыл бұрын
More videos like this please!!!
@gameboyterrorysta63072 жыл бұрын
And I still say that BMW 1602/2002 touring is the first hot hatch.
@johnchurch47053 жыл бұрын
The Fiat/ Lancia twin cam only had an alloy head, the block was cast iron.
@pulseweld3 жыл бұрын
i simp for Simca
@GoodwoodRR3 жыл бұрын
Simpca
@bennyhannover9361 Жыл бұрын
All the cars that you present have "alloy wheels" but the Golf GTI did not have alloy wheels nor the Alpine R5 ! these were simple silver coated steel wheels.
@pereldh57413 жыл бұрын
My pick would prob be the Fiat 128 Rally or 128 3P (if we’re talking strictly ”hatch”)
@stefdnk44283 жыл бұрын
Forgetting the BMW 02 Touring models?
@muigaulwurf3 жыл бұрын
How could you miss the BMW Tourings?
@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
I argue that a 'proper' hot hach is a two door.
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
Problem is, the first True Hot Hatch, is a four-door with hatch. The R16TS
@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Hatches have 2 doors. A 4 door is a Liftback. The original R16 had only 54 hp so dont quite think it falls into the 'hot' category even if it is seen as a hatchback but that said Stirling Moss did have a very good opinion of it.
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayNipplez The R16TS was 91hp in the spec we got here in Oz, which is 11 more then the Simca in the video, and it's Definitely a Hatch - a "Lift Back" was seen in the Nissan Pintara's, where a section of the roof lifts with the hatch, same as with the Holden Sunbird from the 70's, and given the Torana/Sunbird was available in 2 door Lift Back with 5.0 V8, I could have pointed out that none of the cars in the video are the fastest 'hot' hatch ;)
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
Google Search Terms - Torana A9X
@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
@@PiDsPagePrototypes By the time the R16 got 91hp it was no longer first at anything. The title is "Best Hot Hatches" not first hatchbacks or as you said, fastest. Something must be a subjective qualifier for 'hot' and 'best' and it will be arguable as to what is and what is not but the R16 isn't on anyone's radar other than yours I'm afraid.
@andrewgreen77782 жыл бұрын
Why mention the mini with transverse engine and front drive when the r5 (in gordini guise) and alfa sud were longitudinal and the chevette hs (lotus had nothing to do with the vauxhall head) and sunbeam were longitudinal and rear drive. Why don't you get someone who has a modicum of knowledge about cars to check your scripts.
@lazerblu3 жыл бұрын
Surely the BMW 2002 Tii Touring was the first?
@pauldamian29883 жыл бұрын
What about cars available in the USA... Then, I think it IS the VW GTI...
@pereldh57413 жыл бұрын
How old are you? Seemingly not old enough to know the Lancia Beta was a mid-size sport coupe, much like the Opel Manta or Ford Capri. FWD yes, but not a hot hatch Also the Alfa Sprint was a Scirocco competitor, Alfasud Ti was the proper hot hatch.
@korosuchimu14793 жыл бұрын
Kinda left out Japanese cars.
@CathodeRayNipplez3 жыл бұрын
Good
@PiDsPagePrototypes3 жыл бұрын
They missed the real Original too - the Renault 16 TS. And Mini fans will argue they should be included, but they'll be ignoring the 'hatch' requirement.