Why aren’t you making boots? You guys could make the best backcountry hunting boots on the market. I understand you want to stay a small business but I think you should consider it. You clearly have a better understanding of what hunters need than any actual footwear company out there.
@Patrick-zr8tv3 ай бұрын
I feel like it would be less expansion and moreso cost. If the boots were designed to the nth degree, made in the US, and a fair few models made in small numbers, I wouldn't be shocked to see the price tag approach $1000 for a pair. Footwear really needs to be made in massive bulk in order to do it industrially at a reasonable cost. It's economy of scale being absolutely brutal in this case.
@warrior58908 ай бұрын
Im about halfway through and Im really learning a lot! Im a relatively new hunter also in Idaho and you're making me rethink the whole stiff vs flexible boots. Seems like everyone hypes up super stiff boots and you seem to be more level headed with the advice. Looking forward to seeing what's next in the experience project lineup!
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
The hunting industry is as susceptible as anything and maybe even more so to a lack of critical thinking and just accepting “passed down knowledge” even when it becomes clear that isn’t the best choice. I think boots fall smack in the middle of that faulty logic. - Steve
@warrior58908 ай бұрын
@@ExoMtnGear True! Also wanted to mention something on the boot lasts. A lot of nice dress shoe companies will mention what lasts each shoe is based on so when you find a last that fits your feet you can find all their other shoes that are based on that last. It would be great if these boot manufacturers adopted that.
@deanbrantley8 ай бұрын
I hike every single day. I have the all leather stiff Asolo Hunter GV and i barelly grab them for all the reason mentioned here. Ive worn Asolo Fugitive GTX for 20 years and of recently Salewa Mtn Light. I bought into he whole Crispi style boot and they are not my go to boot.
@JLambinator4 ай бұрын
@@deanbrantley Are you saying the Asolo Hunter was too stiff and bulky but you liked the Fugative? Or are you saying the Fugative was too stiff as wel land that's why you went to the Salewa Mtn ligt?
@deanbrantley4 ай бұрын
@@JLambinator the Asolo Hunter is a very stiff boot. I think it has its place in my tool box but i generally wear the Fugitives or Salewa on a daily basis. For hiking in the colorado mtns last sept i longed for my synthetic light weight quick drying boots. But if im deer hunting here in the south out of my saddle where immusing climbing stick and standing on the small platform for hours the Asolo Hunter Gv is hands down the best because of the stiffness. Standing on the platform edges or the small steps of my sticks the stiff boots shine. Hope that helps alittle.
@GostoFan5 ай бұрын
For people that liked the Salomon Quest 4 before they redesigned the it, Salomon just released the Quest Tracker which looks to be dang near identical to the Quest Forces , which are the same design as the previous gen Quest 4’s. And they seem to be a good mix of flexibility and support. These Quest Tracker look like they have the same midsole and outsole as the Quest Elements in this video
@TOYguy-2525 күн бұрын
👍100% Awesome! Very well done video with solid information. I was in your store in Meridian the other day. The staff were very helpful, professional and knowledgeable. What a Fantastic company! I have been boot shopping the last few days looking for hiking/hunting boots (still looking). The staff at some big name stores nearby were friendly but I didn’t get 1/10 the info from them as I got from watching this video. If I ran those stores or had a say, I would have all the employees who work in footwear watch this video to truly help customers find what they need. Thanks again!
@vincentjackson34726 ай бұрын
That's an insane amount of knowledge shared on boots. I really appreciate you taking the time to share that!
@ExoMtnGear6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@njames261224 ай бұрын
Footwear is a personal choice, but to me this is best video I’ve seen on hunting footwear. I’ve always used light, flexible footwear regardless of hunt - sheep, elk, deer, antelope. All my buddies think I’m strange for it. My feet/legs are less tired at the end of the day and I have less issues with blisters. I’ve tried stiff, heavy boots before and I just feel clumsy and have more difficulty traversing terrain. However, the issue I always run into with lightweight footwear is upper durability and weather proofness.
@benjihunter46875 ай бұрын
Ironic. This is spot on Steve! Three days ago I did my last 19 mile scouting trip in my Kenetrek Hard Scrabbles, and had blisters in places I never had before. Two days ago I also ordered Topo Athletic Traverse! Fingers crossed that my feet will love the Topo's as much as my back and shoulders love my EXO K4! September is closing in FAST! Keep on keepin on!
@seanrogers32458 ай бұрын
Great information! Thanks for taking the time to put this together & share it. Much appreciated! - Sean R. -
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@idahofishandhunt3 ай бұрын
Great content, and exactly what I was looking for before I decide to pull the trigger on a new pair of hunting boots. Thanks for the information, much appreciated.
@ExoMtnGear3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JB-gs2ui8 ай бұрын
At 47 minutes in I hear something that rings so true. None of these "high-end" manufactures make an insole worth walking on. Nothing worse than buying a $350 dollar boot just to have to buy insoles too.
@thedaventure7 ай бұрын
Insoles are just as individual specific as the boot. Then you'll be buying a $400-450 boot with a fancy insole that doesnt work, and have to buy insoles.
@stevespeck47047 ай бұрын
@@thedaventure Agreed. The problem, in my opinion, is the boot manufacturers don't tell you the stock insole is basically garbage and that to get the best performance out of them the customer needs an aftermarket insole.
@vincentjackson34726 ай бұрын
I'd rather do it this way, as it means my 350 went on the boots rather than 250 for the boots, 100 for the wrong insoles for my feet. The problem is, no manufacturer ever says, now go get the right IS for your boot!
@michaelbosisto62594 ай бұрын
I choose to go to an orthotics professional to make me a custom fit for my hunting boots. I like to use natural fiber as apposed to artificial like gel system. My feet took some damage while I was in the Marines, so I don’t care if I have to spend more money to get it right
@ClintonFD3 ай бұрын
I have had a similar experience with Solomon's waterproofing. I used to buy stiff and cheap goretex hunting boots and never had a problem with leaks. But I wasn't putting many miles on them either. I decided to try a more flexible and comfortable boot with the Solomon quest and got a season out of them before they started leaking. Recently I heard from a guy that had tried multiple pairs of Crispis and Schnees and found them all to leak, but this guy was spending over 100 days a year in them. He sent his Schnee's in under warranty and an employee there told him that the membranes wear out faster on more flexible boots, and he recommended a pair of their stiffer boots for someone putting in those kinds of miles.
@ExoMtnGear2 ай бұрын
That makes sense. The more a membrane moves, and the lighter the material is protecting the membrane, the less life that membrane will have. As we've said, the very things that make a boot extremely durable with a very long life are the things that make that boot less comfortable and compromise performance for many people.
@kentforster8947Ай бұрын
Have you ever tried Salewa Mt. Trainer 2 . Amazing boot . I have guided for Mt. Goats for years . Same as you always thought I needed a heavy full leather boot. Now in my mid - late 50's. The stiff heavy were killing my knees and back. Switched to the Salewa . What a difference. Even with 100lbs on my back coming down off the mountains. Plenty of support. Seem very durable . Have survived probably 6 Stone sheep hunts and a out the same amout of Mt. Goat hunts
@trussell25057 ай бұрын
2 things i have noticed with boots is I always wash them off when i get home it really helps the gore tex to breathe and my feet sweat less. Just like your rain gear. And I wear 8" tall lightweight boots and I rarely lace them all the way up. Most of the time only to the ankle or one lace lock up, that way they are more like hiking shoes, then if I get into a place i need extra ankle support I can stop and lace them all the way up.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
Good point on cleaning. That will certainly prolong the life and performance of the boot.
@Canadaman44035 ай бұрын
And it’s amazing when you use different methods to tie your laces what a difference I can make in terms of support and eliminating hotspots as well as overheated feet
@johncurtis1426 ай бұрын
Watching from australia. Brliant breakdown. Much appreciated. Bravo
@Schmittywerben5 ай бұрын
I listened to a podcast clip of Peter Attia’s, he interviewed a podiatrist who was very aligned with the minimalist footwear camp. She made a point about running shoes that I think might be applicable to this debate. She basically said you can wear the niche ultra performance footwear like Nike alpha flys, just make sure your feet have earned the right to wear them. So essentially run/hike in altras or vivos and then when you need a study mountain boot for sheep country you can wear them. Don’t weaken your feet through constant use though.
@mikekeretzman47574 ай бұрын
Good information. I have the Crispi Lapponia II and Lapponia III. There is a difference. Lapponia III has a much gripper sole. My issue is three fold. Sweaty feet, wide feet and high insteps. Crispi Lapponia fits those needs for now.
@nvrfollowb5Ай бұрын
I put synthetics away when the snow piles up late season. Been using Hanwag Alaska on the late season snow hunts. The leather seems to keep my feet happy in the snow where the synthetics tend to stay wet on the outside of the boot. I haven’t tried treating with silicone or something like that. I do keep the leather oiled or it will also wet on the outside and make for cold feet
@Canadaman44035 ай бұрын
Best boot n sock n insole video I’ve heard yet! But we’re we’re hunting here in Alberta Canada we get -20 to -40°C trust me buddy you will be wearing insulated boots and leather ones preferably over 8 inches if you don’t you’ll be back in the truck within an hour
@linescum4443 ай бұрын
Southern Ontario guy here, tree stand hunting whitetail ,what's your go to boot???
@DiabeticKripple7 ай бұрын
Great explanation on the insoles! I have Crispi Nevada’s and kept getting blisters on my hikes and hunts. After listening to your podcast I gave the superfeet trailblazers a go and instantly the boot felt better, and the blisters disappeared.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that helped!
@poserstookmyalias8 ай бұрын
Great information! I ran the Crispi last season and after a 10 mile day, my feet were absolutely destroyed from the lack of cushion. I only did short hikes pre-season, and didn't realize how the crappy insole was affecting my feet, i had to switch to my trusty kennetreks, which were much heavier and stiffer, but way more comfy. Lessons learned, do a long hike with your boots pre-season and upgrade the insole.
@RudyHassallPMP8 ай бұрын
Great information, for sure. It is the most comprehensive review of footwear that I have seen. Another way of looking at the footbeds is to not consider them a insoles, but as foot liners. They are only in there to get you out the door. 😀 As you mentioned at the start of the video, one should look at the last of the boot and shape of your foot. It would be challenging at best for the boot manufacturers to make a true insole for all foot types and lasts, out of the box. I do agree with you completely that lack of information around these topics is mind boggling. This information that I learned with boots 15 years ago, I applied to running shoes 10 years ago. Keep the great content coming!
@TylerTurco8 ай бұрын
Great video! Excited for the rest of the Experience Project!
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Appreciate that!
@ilndboy78 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve I can relate to pretty much half of what you talk about. I’m moving away from the stiff leather to more flexible type boots.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Let us know what you end up liking.
@GostoFan8 ай бұрын
Crocs for a pack out!?! You’re flipping the entire backcountry packout boot paradigm on its head, lol! 😂 Good video with a very different perspective than 95% of ‘backcountry boot review’ vids out there
@damienm35978 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the rest of the project. Might be worth mentioning that most of the boots on the table are listed by the manufacturer as 6” boots, regardless of actual measurement. Also maybe reinforcing that this is great advice for everyone, even though it’s coming from someone who essentially employs himself as chief product tester for a pack company, and perhaps has stronger feet than most 😊
@andrewleonard44907 ай бұрын
I enjoyed watching this. Similarly, I was encouraged to get Dannars too. After they gave up the ghost, I purchased a very stiff boot I was not sure footed in. I dumped them because I thought it was literally a safety concern. I landed on the Lowa Caminos. I enjoyed watching this while handing/inspecting my boots. Thanks for making such an informative video. I might be looking at synthetic boots in the future.
@JessieFarmer-u2wАй бұрын
I had all the issues you talk about with Crispi Nevada's. They were the most uncomfortable things I have ever worn. Now I use Zamberlans or Oboz that are really flexible and their price point is nice.
@tonygillahan7 ай бұрын
I just keep going back to the Crispi Nevada Legends. I spend 52 weekends a year in boots and they've been my favourite to date.
@stevespeck47047 ай бұрын
What's causing you to leave them if you have to keep going back to them?
@tonygillahan7 ай бұрын
@stevespeck4704 never left them mate. I'm just saying once I've worn a pair of Legends out, I get another pair of the same boots 🍻
@stevespeck47047 ай бұрын
@@tonygillahan Roger, I read that as you keep trying other boots but then come back to them as you haven't found something you like more.
@tonygillahan7 ай бұрын
@stevespeck4704 my apologies mate. I've tried other brands over the years but once I put my feet in the Nevada's I haven't changed since.
@armourbl6 ай бұрын
Do you find they get better with time, like as they wear?
@seana72518 ай бұрын
Great info, really appreciate it. Assuming that footwear companies are keeping the price down because of the crappy insole, I actually prefer that because insoles, like boots, are so specific for a person's foot. So, I'd rather get the perfect insole for my foot. Again, assuming that the price is lower than if the manufacturer spent more money on a high quality yet still generic insole.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with you, the only problem is that they don’t tell you they are putting a cheap insole in there and most people don’t know that you can greatly improve the performance with a good insole. - Steve
@Brno67x4 ай бұрын
Hey Steve how about you make video for very cold weather hunting, letting us know what's a good footwear example and sock combo and how to keep feet warm in the negative degrees. Thanks
@zancaredler7 ай бұрын
I love you so much! I recently just found your kislux and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
@mikhaelmedina6588 ай бұрын
Really good info. I try to go light on my shoes just like my running shoes I go 6 ounces per shoe. I haven’t found the boot that gives me lightness or stableness. I really been loving my underarmour. Haven’t really had a problem with them.
@jaycee29868 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff gents! The podcast was a great in depth discussion and appreciate the video as an addendum. I had an Achilles issue a few years back and defaulted into the 4 Flex route. But earlier this year converted to low top trail runners for training weighted hikes and don’t think I’ll go back. Much like heavy hiking develops hip stabilizing muscles, I’ve felt that in my ankles as well. I’m looking forward to testing some different socks to cater the fit of my Altitudes a bit more to see if they work well.
@maxdeerp7 ай бұрын
Great information and thanks for sharing! I think a liner polypropylene sock under your hiking sock is key. I always wear one and have never got blisters or hot spots. They also wick the sweat away from the wool outer sock. Interesting to hear the mention of no thinsulate, I’ve worked in -47c and always wore wool/bama socks with Dunlop boots, no thinsulate and warm feet.
@Canadaman44035 ай бұрын
To be fair I am in Alberton when you say I was working in -47°C you were moving, how about sitting in the stand or on the cut line for four hours there’s no way you would survive without some insulation on your feet I shouldn’t say that I would not
@maxdeerp5 ай бұрын
@@Canadaman4403 fair. Haven’t hunted that cold, been in -25 pretty regularly. Now have heated socks for when I’m sitting and glassing early morning. Once I start hiking I turn the socks off.
@michaelbosisto62594 ай бұрын
I also really concentrate on different lacing methods to control how the boot fits, depending on the environment I will be hunting. You can manipulate stiff boots just by lacing it differently than the standard way. There is a Kenetreks video that has a pro show you different techniques. Also, I think far too many people do not measure their feet properly, so they naturally assume the boots sucks. It’s ok to run a little long, but you do not want too tight. Remember your left and right foot may be different, go with the larger of the two. Your feet change with age, at 50, your feet are not like they were when you were 20. Arches change with age. Socks matter.. go with Marino wool, gotta keep them feet dry because it’s easier to damage your feet when they are wet from sweat or water. There are many brands that are awesome if you pay attention to details… the problems you might have could be because of you and not your boots. You can always lace a stiff boot to make them more flexible, but you can’t make a flexible boot stiff when you need it to be.
@ghaugsness8 ай бұрын
Love my Salomon's but agree about durability and waterproofness. Going to check out a couple of the other brands you highlighted though.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Salomon definitely has the magic sauce on fit and comfort. Whatever Last they use to design around seems to work very well for a very wide range of people. They remind me of the Prana Stretch Zion pants, they just seem to work for a lot people. If they could only improve their Gore Tex construction and durability they would have an excellent boot.
@AccountE1174 ай бұрын
Did you end up trying anything else? My Salomon’s died and I’m still not sure if I’ll change or get a new pair.
@ghaugsness4 ай бұрын
@@AccountE117 I still have 2 fairly new pairs of Salomons and hadn't had time to pick anything else up. Hopefully over the winter I can pick a different brand up and give them a go.
@kennethnordstrom890720 күн бұрын
If you ain't crockin, you ain't rocking! Come on!
@GostoFan3 ай бұрын
I think that guys that don’t live in the mountains ( us flatlanders) and don’t train their feet for strength and stability , and then come out west for their yearly hunt may need a stiffer boot for side hilling and elevation changes. I do agree with the lighter synthetic construction however….some recommendations for that might be the Crispi Thors/Colorado/Summit/Idaho, Scarpa Ribelle HD Lite, La Sportiva has a few models…
@Mknuchell7 ай бұрын
Great video / podcast. I agree with most of it however I have found the exact opposite with stiffness. I used to use soft trail runner type shoes and high flex boots but I’ve transitioned to stiffer shoes and my feet couldn’t be happier! Soft flex shoes kill my feet quickly particularly on heavy pack outs. I find a shoe that flexes a little while hiking but maintains its rigidity most of the time is my favorite for endurance hunting 4+ days. (Crispi flex 3.5-4). Thanks as always for the great content !
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
Yeah I have certainly ran across guys that prefer stiffer boots and if you’re feet like them you can’t argue with that.
@edtyanich55978 ай бұрын
Great content in both the video and podcast. Hunting in lighter weight footwear is something I have been preaching for 20 years. I wrote an article for Successful Hunter Magazine in 2008, and one of the photos showed my hunting partner elk hunting in LaSportiva Raptor trail runners and MicroSpikes. The editor forwarded me a letter from a reader that reamed me out for being irresponsible in showing someone hunting elk in "tennis shoes". Steve or Mark, have either of you tried the Aku Selvatica Mid GTX? I'm going to probably try a pair out and hope they aren't too narrow. Keep up the great work!
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I did try the Selvatica briefly a few years ago and it didn’t work for me. I don’t remember exactly why. AKU does make very high quality products. - Steve
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I tried the Selvatica as well. From what I recall, they were pretty sloppy in the upper. Since you mentioned low-top shoes (Raptors), I do like the Aku Flyrock as a hiking shoe. -Mark
@timshapleyadventures7 ай бұрын
Bros. I can see your passion and knowledge, lots of good information for a novice or experienced hunter/hiker alike but one criticism. Try not to repeat so much… video could have been 20 minutes shorter. Great video though.
@biertodd53578 ай бұрын
Love it! Looking forward to this new content adventure!
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Thanks! We're looking forward to it as well.
@davelebowski28595 ай бұрын
Under Armour HOVR's are the best you can get. My hunting buddy wears his pair everyday of the year they are so good. I had to buy mine online to get the right size but it was worth it. They even handle snow, except they arent insulated enough to sit still in the winter
@larrylovestein53524 ай бұрын
Was gonna ask this, how’s the waterproof on the HOVR? Thinking of grabbing these for mid-late season out west. Would you recommend?
@nickholcroft7 ай бұрын
Thank you for confirming that the perfect boot does not exist yet!
@Joel_Unbound8 ай бұрын
Would love to see a similar video about insoles alone. Boots are made generically to fit the most type of feet to my understanding but no two feet even left and right are the same. I find insoles can help a good bit.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Yep, insoles can completely change how the boot performs and generally almost all boots will do better with a quality aftermarket insole than the stock ones. We talk about it a lot more in depth on the podcast we recorded. - Steve
@danielprice493317 күн бұрын
Steve, great video! Maybe you should partner with a boot company to make the “exo mountain boot”
@81riverrambler8 ай бұрын
Great review. Lathrop & Sons does exactly what you described they do a foot 3d model before recommending any boots, whether it’s their custom made boots or another brand.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Yeah they do a great job with that. I know Stephen Lathtop personally and he is a great guy who is genuinely interested in helping and making sure you are happy. I think the only fault in their logic is falling into the “you need a stiff boot to hunt” category as evidence by the two boot models they developed are very stiff. - Steve
@81riverrambler8 ай бұрын
I agree with that they do a great job fitting but, don’t have choices for different boots/shoes.
@Nick.Smb.Hunts973 ай бұрын
Early in the video you mentioned running water proof socks . What waterproof socks would you recommend ? Big fan of the pod 🤙🏽
@ExoMtnGear3 ай бұрын
Showers Pass and Sealskinz are good options to check out.
@leroyjones7698 ай бұрын
You’re the only person I’ve seen on KZbin that pronounces it Hanvag (correct) instead of Hanwag. Nice
@steveclark87314 ай бұрын
From your lips to Crispi's ears. I don't know if they increased the size of the lugs but they look substantial on the Lapponia III and the new Altitude. Rated at 2/5 and 2.5/5, respectively, on the flex scale ( 5 being a board; 1 being sneaker flexible). They've siped the front climb block and put lugs in the heel. There are cross-sole grooves in the middle (arch) portion - not super traction, but some. Each model weighing in around the magical 3 lbs (except that's for US size 9). Either / both might be worth a look. Great tip about the Topo's. GoRuck just came out with the Mackall. Again, worth a look.
@zachs138 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you for taking the time to make this video! Theres several videos out there trying to cover this topic, but none are as detailed and experience based as this one. I'm still on the hunt for the right boot myself, and there's a lot of great information in here that will help a lot.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Hopefully some of the information will help! - Steve
@jamesclay25844 ай бұрын
Recommendation Please. I am 350lbs Typically on Hunt days I walk about 5 miles, I cover hills ( Clay, rock, brushy hills), Long Hay fields and dense brushy woods, creeks and marshy areas at times and Cold wet to me ( November deer. April wet rainy springs for Turkey, Plan to start December snowy Bear hunts). I had been looking for Waterproof, Warm, 13 Wide or 14 regulars Both seem to fit well, I am extremely Flat footed, My Feet and legs require a little bulky Socks and Compression wear 1/4 inch more space around the Bend of the foot. Goals are Waterproof, Warm, stabilize ankles and foot yet have flexibility in the bend.
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing all of your experiences and insight on boots its invaluable considering trying multiple different ones each year is not financially practical for most with what they cost these days. My 1st western boot was the quest 4d thanks to a podcast of yours years ago and happy to say i have never had a blister....but for sure wet feet as you said the gortex Salomon uses is garbage ha
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a pretty standard experience for Quests! Super comfortable out of the box, and through almost all conditions, but you'll end up wet at some point.
@jamesmarshall70998 ай бұрын
Great video. Always value your experienced information. I would recommend trying sheepfeet. Game changer for my feet.
@shanesimpson41248 ай бұрын
Great Video full of great information.
@graysondavey41518 ай бұрын
I'm used to using as stiff a boot as possible for sheep, but after this, I think I might try a middle of the line flex scouting this year. I am scared about encountering really steep country. But honestly, I'm usually more scared of hurting myself when I hike up and down creeks with an ultra stiff boot
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
We have hunted sheep and mountain goats several times without a super stiff boot. Listen to the podcast and we go into even more on this, including the aspect of “fear” as an unnecessary justification for super stiff boots.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I would also add and I believe I mention this in the video but don’t make to big of a jump from stiff to super flexible too quickly . Based off a lot of conversations with friends who have transitioned to more flexible boots it takes 3-4 years of doing it incrementally to see the best results. Too much too soon and your feet / ankles won’t like it. -Steve
@acgmoulton7 ай бұрын
I can attest to this. Went from super stiff mountaineering to a trail runner in one season and have an ankle issue I’ve been dealing with since…
@Guillaume-b5r5 ай бұрын
Great tutorial thanks!👍
@benramosactual8 ай бұрын
Great video and great podcast! Really appreciate the work you guys put into this topic. Ive definitely found myself in the camp of preferring to just buy a $150-200 'no break in' and super comfortable new pair of boots every year, instead of spending $400 and 50 miles trying to break in a pair of stiff heavy boots thatll 'last forever' only to find out they arent right for me. I've personally found Oboz Bridger to be the best for my foot. I absolutely love them. The problem is they're not very waterproof, and I always end up at some point in the season with them soaked through unless I treat them literallly before every single trip. I currently use Kennetrek wax to treat them. It works, but again, I have to treat every trip. My question is, are there any other waterproofing treatments that you'd recommend? Id really like to keep using the Oboz because other than that theyre perfect.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I honestly have not played too much with different waterproofing options as they are just band aids to poor gore Tex performance and like you mentioned something you have to constantly reapply.
@ALindco7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this tremendous content. So if you’re consistently hunting in ankle deep to knee-deep snow, do you continue to wear a synthetic boot but just wear a thicker sock? Of course, wearing a gator in these conditions is necessary.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I will continue to wear a synthetic boot and I'll just wear a thicker wool sock if the shoe allows room for it. A big mistake though would be put on a really thick sock and have to stuff / jam your foot into the boot causing a really tight fit. You need an air gap between your foot and the inside the shoe to create warmth.
@ALindco7 ай бұрын
Perfect. Thanks. FYI- I wear the Solomon Quest 4Ds and they do everything for me. I like a low volume running insole from Curex to add a little arch support and add cushion.
@Grooch6116 ай бұрын
Any plans to try the HOKA Kaha 2 GTX? Interested in your thoughts on them. Thanks for the great content!
@ExoMtnGear6 ай бұрын
No current plans. We have worn some Hoka shoes/boots, but haven't used them for hunting due to the stack height and lack of ground feel once you get off-trail.
@JD-ft2lr8 ай бұрын
Have gone through 5 pair Solomons. Keep saying i wont buy again. I think i will. My most recent pair was likely worse than previous. GoreTex failed and material separation. I still wear em. They fit do well with green super feet insoles
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Yeah Salomon’s fit is outstanding for a large portion of users. I just wish they could clean up their Gore Tex construction and inconsistency in durability across shoe designs. - Steve
@clarkansas65908 ай бұрын
Luckily, they have a 2 Year Warranty. I’ve had two pairs replaced at around the one year mark. Warranty process is pretty easy.
@eddiekane12028 ай бұрын
Durability is the only issue I’ve ever had with Solomon which is obviously a huge issue. It sucks that some of them can’t even make it a full year of heavy use. I just picked up a pair of Crispi Nevada GTX and so far I’m really liking them and they’re not really broken in yet
@Khemtime7 ай бұрын
@@clarkansas6590glad to hear that. Bought my first pair after I moved to Alaska a year ago. They were also my first gortex footwear in years. They were great. Didn’t even have to break them in. First time I wore them I rucked 18 miles and they were fantastic and all winter they kept my feet dry and warm but a couple weeks ago I was on a hike and the gortex failed. Hope I can get them fixed.
@Chriis_Perry164 ай бұрын
I know this was asked in the QA but do you guys have any durable recommendations for zero drop boots? Are there negatives to a zero drop while carrying heavy loads?
@christianmetzler2447 ай бұрын
Great info on fit. Thank you for the wisdom. Have you looked at xero shoes scrambler boot? Not sure about durability, but I really like their training shoes.
@awiegwa8 ай бұрын
Awesome vid, how many different boots do you tend to keep in your boot quiver? Or do you just run a couple different pairs? Asking for western mountain hunting but I know the answer will differ deopending on how many different types of hunting you do.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
We’re in a unique position to be constantly testing and evaluating, so we always have far more boots than we need. Most hunters should be able to have just one or two boots for everything.
@benritneour8007 ай бұрын
You mentioned climbing zone slippage. At one point in the video, you also mentioned siping. I have a comfortable pair of boots that you can feel that 90% of the time slippage from the climbing zone smoothness. Have you heard of anyone siping the climbing zone? If so, was it a success?
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
I have tried to do this myself with very limited luck. I haven’t researched this further to see if there is a company out there that would do it. - Steve
@benritneour8007 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. Appreciate it and the video.
@tylerlee28334 ай бұрын
EXO MTN GEAR needs to add boots to the lineup. What’s the hold up?
@clarkansas65908 ай бұрын
Good job. Great information.
@stevenschreiner82837 ай бұрын
Great information. If you wouldn’t mind maybe taking a look at Under Armour HOVR Dawn 2.0 boots, and let me know your opinion, I would really appreciate it. I have a pair and I like them so far, but I’ve been debating whether to maybe get a more expensive pair of boots. Thanks
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
If you are liking them and they are working for you, that's what matters.
@kirbyclone32933 ай бұрын
My feet are by far and away the limiting factor in my hunting/hiking experience. I have skinny, boney ass, fairly flat, wimpy feet. I have found that lightweight hiking boots are the most comfortable for me, heavy leather boots are usually super painful. However, I have found that on super steep loose terrain, a stiffer sole allows for edging into the terrain rather than smearing the loose terrain, which tends to slide off. Any recommendations?
@GostoFan3 ай бұрын
Crispi Thor Crispi Colorado Scarpa Ribelle HD Lite
@samson7x8 ай бұрын
Have you considered trying the zamberlan salathe in the high top version? I'm trying them out now as an early season low elevation option.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I ran the Zamberlan Baltoro on a few different hunts and they had some promise but ultimately they didn’t work for me. Lack of what I would call a technical fit was my biggest complaint. Going downhill the sloppiness inside the boot allowed my feet to slide to the front of the boot and my toes were jammed into the front of the toe box which was very uncomfortable. - Steve
@Adamu987 ай бұрын
Have you tried using logging boots from companies like Nicks, Whites, or jk? They offer costome fit boots that are handmade. They're also resoleable and rebuildable.
@trophyhilll8 ай бұрын
Meindl hit a home run with the Euro Light Hunter. Too bad they don’t get more air time
@danskavdal73778 ай бұрын
Awesome info. What insole do you prefer to run with the Tecnica Plasma?
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
The Superfeet Hike Max works extremely well in them for me. - Steve
@tcurrie89518 ай бұрын
What would you recommend to someone who has/does roll their ankles really easy? Knowing that from my past and being bigger at 220, I'm really not interested in rolling an ankle hard in the middle of a hunt, or miles deep in the backcountry. So I've always preferred taller/stiffer boots. The Lowa Tibet Hi was like armor for the foot/ankle but the complete opposite of what you're talking about. I'm now using a Crispi Guide, yes it's leather and 10" but much softer and more flexible than the Lowa Tibet. I want to believe... And "yes please!" on the Exo Mtn Boots. I had the same thought right away while listening to the podcast....
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
There are some boots that are higher, but aren’t overly heavy or stiff. Schnee’s Timberline would be a good example. Often a stiff boot will limit ground feel and mobility, making someone even more prone to missteps that can cause the roll of an ankle.
@graysondavey41517 ай бұрын
So if boot fit was not an issue, what are the top 5 boots on the market that are built to your liking. The crispi altitude seems very close, but you just said the fit wasn’t good.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
I will work on getting a list together and we’ll post it up next week the Experience Project website. - Steve
@theo_james8 ай бұрын
Insoles are my mortal enemy. I have very high arches and most high arch insoles only account for the arch support needed. They ignore how the high arch changes the way my forefoot contacts the ground and carries weight differently. The best ive found are the footscientific type 3.
@jakemeek24597 ай бұрын
What’s your thoughts on the new kenetrek bridgerton?
@stevespeck47047 ай бұрын
The Bridger High is too stiff and heavy for me but I do think it has a lot going for it: a good waterproof membrane, good tread pattern, some synthetic materials, decent shock absorbtion at the heel and appears to be built off a good last shape. I could certainly see some people being very happy with that choice.
@lanche337 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Crispi Briksdal MTN GTX Boots? I really like them. A little bit more flex would and they would be perfect.
@stevespeck47047 ай бұрын
I have not tried them, they do look promising in some aspects but based off their flex rating I would guess they are stiffer than I would like.
@billt96877 ай бұрын
Would be nice if hunting boots would hot mold to my feet like good hockey skates are built. My CCM Jetspeeds are amazing, and I wish my hunting boots were as comfortable.
@coryford74758 ай бұрын
Why didn't you talk about the Dioni special on the far right side of the table? 🤔
@sinepari91608 ай бұрын
Damn, this was a great synopsis!
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Thank you. We will do follow up conversations on this as well. After listening back to it I have a handful of things I wish I was more clear on. - Steve
@sinepari91607 ай бұрын
@@ExoMtnGear , I think you would enjoy the La Sportiva Spire if you prefer a more flexible sole with an extreme outsole/grip. It IS a low cut, but, as you said, I purchased three pairs once I had determined they were for me. I have boots and shoes from Scarpa, La Sportiva, Asolo, Inov8, Dynafit, Zamberlan, Crispi, Schnees, and the Spire, but I LOVE the Spires. They're not mountaineering boots (which I have plenty of) but for climbing 14's even here in Colorado where I live, they will get you there on a clear day.
@kylemaki34548 ай бұрын
Do you have any experience with Inov-8 boots, specifically the Roclite 400's?
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
I have worn the Roclite’s before and they quite possibly have the best rubber compound / grip I have ever seen. I had some major wear issues after about 40 miles and contacted their customer service and never got a response so I moved on. - Steve
@jimmiferfreddette8583Ай бұрын
I get cold feet. So you’re saying don’t buy schnees pack boots for cold weather? I hear they are great for cold weather
@ExoMtnGearАй бұрын
It all depends on how active you are. If you're sitting or doing very little movement in very cold weather than yes a Schnees pack boot could be a great option. If you are on typical western backpacking hunt (The context of this video) than no I would not advise a boot with any insulation. - Steve
@dillonduncan55808 ай бұрын
I got bunion’s till January I’m in for a painful days
@xXSidneyWarrior81Xx5 ай бұрын
Exo boots coming soon???
@Elkmountainrevolution8 ай бұрын
Hoffman boots. Best in my experience. Not into the trendy instagram hunter boots out there. I use what works for me
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
They definitely make a quality boot just not what I’m looking for in a boot for almost all the reasons mentioned in this video. But I absolutely will not argue with you, if your feet and happy and not sore at the end of a long hard day of hunting then I wouldn’t change a thing.
@solb1013 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder how native Indians roamed the land in “not breathable” leather shoes or boots without Goretex and rubber lugs. Better for the environment too.
@kel97967 ай бұрын
This kind of video is interesting but it's so difficult for one person to say "avoid this, look for that" It's super individual based. I like stiff boots. My feet swell. Steve and I aren't buying the same boot or using the same sizing strategy.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
Correct. We talk about that even more in the podcast. At the end of the day, the goal is to find what works for your preferences and needs.
@adventures_overland_and_water7 ай бұрын
Thoughts on waterproof socks like Sealskinz? ShowerPass? I'm an AK guy and we're always wet. Ugh.
@ExoMtnGear7 ай бұрын
I ran some from Showers Pass last year and really liked them. Was able to run a trail running shoe in wet / boggy elk country and stayed dry. - Steve
@ryanolson24306 ай бұрын
I wear Crocs, as close to bearfoot as I can be.
@Brno67xАй бұрын
Hmmm if insulation on boots is useless then how come guys who do mountaineering in frigid conditions don't wear just leather boots with no insulation and match them with heavy socks? But instead they wear boots with insulation and double liners for more insulation.... Just wondering.
@ExoMtnGearАй бұрын
There are absolutely conditions in which an insulated boot has immense value. I'm sure mountaineering in extreme cold environments where you could have long periods of inactivity insulation is absolutely necessary. But in the context of this video I am talking about western mountain hunting when the temps are probably 20 to 60 degrees. In those conditions an insulated boot does more harm than good. Insulated boots will absolutely cause your feet to sweat a lot more and when you stop moving those sweaty / wet feet get cold very fast. Treating your feet like the rest your clothing system and having the ability to layer is a significantly better way to go. - Steve
@soulsaint7213 ай бұрын
Why review any gear that isnt made anymore? Honest question
@ExoMtnGear3 ай бұрын
The point of this video wasn't to "review" any specific boot, but to talk about the types of footwear we have used, what we have found to work well, and what we look for. The specific models shown in this video are real examples to illustrate those points.
@Thomas-db7zw8 ай бұрын
Dude… you need to start making boots
@philcrewse98288 ай бұрын
I think I smell a EXO Mtn Boot coming to market soon. Maybe just wishful thinking.
@ExoMtnGear8 ай бұрын
Wishful thinking ;-)
@dajahvue8 ай бұрын
Dudes got like 3k boots right there. Maybe more not even shown.😅
@chadwayne8928 ай бұрын
Wish this guy would get to the point.
@coryford74758 ай бұрын
The point? What's your point? There wasn't one other than to discuss the pros and cons, features and benefits of several different types of boots and to help people understand there isn't a 1 boot for everything and they're a personal journey. Comprehensive presentation takes time. Did you really need to comment?