The Best of The Cinema Snob: SLEEPAWAY CAMP II: UNHAPPY CAMPERS

[@Speems]

“Holy shit! Angela’s the killer and she was Wendy Torrence the whole time!”

[@Launchpad05]

'Oh my god, someone remembered this movie, and made a comedy sketch about it!'

[@Amber_xo_133]

According to some cast and crew members, during production/filming, Pamela Springsteen did not tell anyone she was Bruce Springsteen's sister. Several found out about it years later. The characters Charlie and Emilio (played by Jason Ehrlich and Justin Nowell) are the real life names of Molly Nagle's (Renee Estevez) brothers, Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez. Felissa Rose was asked to return as Angela Baker and she did a reading, but didn't quite click with the comedic one-liners that Angela delivered in the sequels. She was also preparing to attend college at the time. This film was shot in Waco, Georgia, at a camp ground formerly known to locals as Camp Waco. It is now private property. Most of the buildings used in the film are now gone. The restroom, abandoned cabin and swimming pool are the only things remaining. Debut and first nude scenes for Valerie Hartman. After this she appeared on an episode of the TV series Cheers and an erotic thriller. Then she left acting. Character Ally Burgess (Valerie Hartman) is arguably the most sexually active girl/character in the Sleepaway Camp series, as she is the only one to have sex twice. Body count: 19 (though Molly's fate was left ambiguous at the end, It is revealed in Teenage Wasteland that she did die as Angela referred to her in the past tense). The sex scene between Ally and Rob was actually with Valerie Hartman and an extra during shots showing her nude since the actor playing Rob (Terry Hobbs) was only a minor during the filming. They show close ups of Hobbs in the movie, but they were shot separately. He wasn't present while Hartman was naked. He joked during an interview that he really wished he could have been there for that.

[@RedShirtRemyStarship]

Jason Voorhees will always be the real unhappy camper.

[@wjzav1971]

Oh please, ONE failed attempt at learning how to swim is no reason to be pissed at camp counselors. But noooooope, Jason really had to stick that to everyone for the rest of his live. And then he wonders why everybody avoids him.

[@greywalker505]

Well, when you survive your supposed drowning and your mother thinks you’ve been dead this whole time, and then you witness her decapitation, that’ll mess you up. (Retcons, man. 😞)

[@a.jlewissonicski5278]

And Jason is not coming home without a badge

[@anthonycerulli5524]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Launchpad05]

He hates the summer sun. He hates the trees, and forests, He's never having fun.

[@whiteydiamond]

I identify with the kid who leaves

[@jeremyzak654]

You mean the smart one.

[@thisinhumanplace2037]

@@molotov.inkorporated”get me out!! I didnt do anything! Ju-just gimme out!!”

[@timothymorris157]

She’s the best character of the movie!

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

Everyone should’ve left while during production Even Felissa Rose admitted this version of angela was not for her It was far too comedic in tone

[@brucewayne799]

​@@user-dr2yz8um3dthe actors in the first can't act

[@SheenaJackson39]

Ooooh, I'm a happy camper, I love the summer sun. I love the trees and forest, I'm always having fun! Ooooh, I'm a happy camper, I love the clear blue sky. And with the grace of God, I'll camp until I die!

[@Emulous79]

You can't start a fire You can't start a fire without a spark This knife's for hire Even if we're just dancing in the park

[@jprofio]

In retrospect, Angela in this movie acts like a toned-down version of her aunt. I think it makes sense that she'd pick up some of those overly cheerful, kind of off mannerisms that the aunt had in the first movie.

[@mcgilj1]

EXACTLY..a combination of drugs, aunt Martha and electroshock.. totally makes sense how that came together.

[@thisinhumanplace2037]

@@mcgilj1they werent thinking that far ahead lol sleepaway camp 1 is fucking gold

[@mcgilj1]

@@thisinhumanplace2037 no.. But just saying it makes sense her personality change from the first into the second film. ECT I'm sure did a number on her.

[@latayesha]

​@@mcgilj1you know that wasn't intentional, right? That the actress just sucks

[@mcgilj1]

@@latayesha sorry but I actually like Springstein in the sequels... I even like 3 which seems to be on people's hate lists, although they never mention Return and how awful that was.

[@Emplordxiii]

People say his old theme song is from The Greatest American Hero but to me I will always think about the Cinema Snob when I hear it.

[@swayingmetal0019]

"And our parents paid for it" was really funny to me I didn't laugh it was more like a very subtle warmth in my soul

[@greywalker505]

The way he said it, though. Like that was the most wrong thing about the whole situation, more than “THAT’S A DICK!”

[@smalltownfilms]

"This Is Battery Acid,You Slime"

[@alexanderf8451]

I have to say I love this actress as Angela.

[@psychonaut1502]

It's Pamela Springsteen, Bruce Springsteen's sister.

[@AstroSpark3]

She’s pretty much the actress who played a cheerleader in fast times at Richmond high

[@mamacindyrogofsky495]

Yes that's is Renee Estavez Charlie Sheens sister..

[@robertosampson6894]

@@mamacindyrogofsky495 Emilio?

[@mcgilj1]

@@robertosampson6894 both

[@comixproviderftw_02]

I miss Believe it or Not

[@dragonempress8367]

Who doesn't?

[@DCNRS90YT]

Me three, it's a pretty calm and catchy song.

[@mordaciousfilms]

I hope the old Snob episodes get re-uploaded since they're no longer available anywhere else. Wouldn't want to miss those classics.

[@TorontoJon]

The camp councilor at 6:38 was played by German actor, Walter Gotell, better known for his recurring role as Russian General Gogol in James Bond movies including 'The Spy Who Loved Me', 'Moonraker', 'For Your Eyes Only', 'Octopussy', 'A View To A Kill', and 'The Living Daylights'.

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Gotell was also SPECTRE agent Morzeny in 1963's "From Russia With Love", and he reunites with Robert Shaw (who played Red Grant in the second Bond film) again in John Frankenheimer's 1977 film "Black Sunday".

[@linken23]

This came out in 2012? Holy shit, can't believe this is a 6-year-old episode. I had just finished my junior year of college when this episode came out. My, how time goes by fast.

[@Dman425]

This movie came out in 1988. Edit: oh, you meant the episode

[@varmintx0]

Holy shit, this is now a 6 year-old comment.

[@iselin90]

i also finished my 3rd year of college when this came out

[@talynhastime9343]

Could video hosting sites quit shutting down and forcing Brad to find yet ANOTHER site to upload his videos? That'd be great.

[@robertlehto4667]

Yeah...when KZbin is the last one standing.

[@mordaciousfilms]

KZbin needs to cool it with the copyright strikes and content strikes for anything they deem inappropriate unless some other site wants to spring up to take its place.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

That's the problem with not being run by one of the current giants like Facebook or KZbin. None of the sites can turn a profit when they need to pay their content creators. Even KZbin loses money and without enough money the servers can't be maintained, resulting in everybody who liked a site having to move elsewhere, cause the owners are too poor to be an alternative.

[@ndm13]

This is Brad's campaign to shut down KZbin.

[@ndm13]

Blip isn't around anymore, Vimeo has a terrible monetization model, and Dailymotion is barely supporting itself financially.

[@cwhitney69]

Thank you Brad and gang for starting to bring back some of the old videos from the archives. A lot of the old videos I really like have been taken down and I can't find them on youtube any more.

[@willday9316]

This movie is so campy! Nyuk-nyuk-nyuck!

[@rommix0]

A wise guy eh?

[@SpeedyEric1]

BUSHWHACKED!

[@oddeyes9413]

Campy? Hmm... did you mean: 80s Slasher flicks?

[@RedShirtRemyStarship]

I wonder if Sleepaway Camp is near or adjacent to Crystal Lake.

[@oddeyes9413]

Eh, 24 miles south by southwest

[@randalgraves6979]

Right across the lake. 🤔 just like Gotham & Metropolis.

[@heynae2016]

It's literally across the street

[@blove88]

It's a few miles down. Camp Blackfoot is further down the lake tho.

[@georgescoville703]

Some times I wonder why they making a reboot of sleep a way camp

[@MST3Kfan1]

NGL, that girl getting killed by Angela whacking her head with the big stick and her reaction was to touch her head and sigh is dang funny.

[@jemofthe80s18]

Well, don't forget, she WAS electro-shocked to high heaven when her brain was still developing, so...;) I love that Angela's actually a really GOOD counselor when she doesn't HAVE to "deal" with the bad kids;) Seriously, everything she said to Mare was TRUE, she WAS just showing off to impress Ally--speaking of, too bad we never got to see the Tannen generation between Biff and Griff, because HOLY COW, would she have been perfect as the daughter of the FIRST movie's Biff:):) She blows so hot and cold, mean and nice, joking and taunting, he'd be so proud;) Plus she LOOKS kind of like Tom Wilson and definitely has a similar sense of humor!

[@UnliveingEnd]

I assumed the perkiness was due to cocaine that stuff was the shit back in the day according to people who were around back then. They keep complaining about how it's cut today, dealers should start selling 80's style cocaine they could call it coke classic. 100% natural booger sugar

[@Cidizzy]

This has to be the best comment ever

[@TheJohno95]

I actually like Sleepaway Camp 2 a lot. 3 has some pretty funny moments, too. How many more movies have the Dead Milkmen in the soundtrack?

[@Dendarang]

Yeah, same. They definitely aren't anywhere near as iconic as the first one but, as slasher sequels go, they're actually pretty good. And the relentlessly cheery but also really mean spirited tone is pretty unique among slasher sequels, too.

[@clinthamers493]

I love this movie, and also part 3.

[@Theladywiththeblackdress]

Ooooooh I'm a happy camper I love the summer sun

[@oddeyes9413]

I've never been to summer camp... or outside of the US as much as I want to go. Or to a freaking concert. 😞

[@SheenaJackson39]

I love the trees and forest, I'm always having fun.

[@Spthomas47]

:: sees Sleep Away Camp :: Nice :: notices it's the second one :: Woot! Now we're talkin

[@reagandefriece3093]

I MET CINEMA SNOB TODAY

[@Ringer5]

My god... the editing on the set is amazing! It looks exactly like the on in the early 2010s.

[@CanadianCultCinema]

I always found it Strange that Flotsam and Jetsam’s Doomsday for the Deceiver album is just sitting on a couch between 2 corpses in this movie.

[@adrienfourniercom]

I disappointed that the end doesn't reveal where she bought the truck with witch she kills her first victim in the 3rd Sleepaway camp

[@brucemilivoy9790]

Believe it or not is my ringtone since 2012 because of this man, and I will never change it, thank you very much.

[@culwin]

Our parents' taxes paid for it?? WALT RIGHT'S BIGGEST NIGHTMARE

[@KyreeseAlford1999]

I'm going to be completely honest, I love Sleepaway Camp 2: Unhappy Campers because it's more entertaining, more inventive kills and more nudity than the last Sleepaway Camp movie. I don't care what everyone else has to say about Sleepaway Camp 2: Unhappy Campers. Great review though, dude!

[@TheZipperDragon]

Charlie & Emelio made me think of the Sheens/Estives'

[@scottakanumba1heathen379]

That's likely because Renee Estevez, their younger sister, plays "Molly" AKA the final girl in SC2.

[@babyfaceweeb8937]

One of the campers was named Demi Moore.

[@TheLilRocker2005]

The entire group of characters are named after the members of the Brat Pack For example - Sean (Penn) Molly (Ringwald) Demi (Moore) Mare (Winningham) Rob (Lowe) Judd (Nelson) Anthony (Michael Hall) Charlie (Sheen) Emilio (Estevez) Ally (Sheedy) Our final girl is Renee Estevez, sister of Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen

[@randalgraves6979]

👀 no Andrew (McCarthy) Or Jon (Cryer)

[@Launchpad05]

@@randalgraves6979 No Duckie, or Lenny Luthor.

[@agentleman4610]

Ah the Sleep Away Camp 2 review. Such a wonderful classic. I don't know, Snob seems to have more bite and snark in these old episodes.

[@ShadeMeadows]

Ah! I love the old episodes as well! always a joy to see them here, they not always work for me in the Snob's Site!

[@punky19761]

I love Sleepaway Camp II. It’s my favorite one. 😁

[@SlugfestWizard]

One of your best reviews

[@hiigghhggg9150]

11:32 is still my favorite snob joke. Idk why, but I literally cry laughing every time I hear it. I think it’s his delivery.

[@quietside3734]

I love these old Snob videos.

[@orochimarussidepiece6138]

I actually LOVE this movie SOOOOO much

[@tjtharp603]

I like the cast of Sleepaway Camp 2 & 3 especially 2.

[@ARedMagicMarker]

"Goddamnit, why is everyone instinctively going into that abandoned cabin? There's battery acid in it!" XD

[@I-didnt-ask-you]

I like how the girl who got hit with a log grabbed the wrong side of her head in pain.

[@Ratciclefan]

I already watched this video, but since it's finally (back?) on the channel I rewatched it. :D And Brad, at 5:55 you can see the match went out even _before_ Angela threw it. Also, if the name of the killer in the previous movie's camp was known, how did they not pick up that it was the same Angela that is now working in this movie's camp?!

[@ОлегЕршов-м3с]

And why the traumatized psyhotic woman who had killed a bunch of kids, even if she was considered cured and let out of the mental institution, was allowed near children?

[@Ratciclefan]

Олег Ершов yeah, that too. (Somehow I lost all that information, btw xD)

[@TheFerretJuice]

I love this movie!!!

[@jantzenbruce2155]

Great to see this one still around. What happened to the videos on your website?

[@abigailcincotti9109]

Jantzen Bruce video host went down.

[@Ratciclefan]

Oh wow.

[@EnterTheMorg]

It's always a treat when you bring us a classic episode!! ^-^

[@marclewis5505]

The girl gets hit in the head with a log and she goes "ow." 4 real?

[@thatoneguy4478]

Pls more old episodes.

[@LaLaLA-ue1ho]

Thank you for reuploading this.

[@robertpreston2220]

Love parts 2 and 3!

[@williamrobinson6457]

I just watched sleep away camp and loved the series and wish more would come out.

[@taylorhensel4044]

So now we know what Bruce Springsteen would look like as a chick. If he’s any kind of older brother, he probably gives Pamela shit about these flicks during every family get-together.

[@lindaspencer5887]

I actually loved this movie when I was a kid

[@Sitharos]

I love these classic Snob videos!

[@PR0MAN01]

Holy shit. I was looking for these reviews a few days ago to rewatch them. Perfect timing

[@someenglishbloke942]

And to think Walter Gotell was in the James Bond series for a time before this.

[@MusicalSeizureGuy]

Wow even the regular episodes are hilarious! This one’s even funnier! Thanks and keep rocking 😀

[@JillDinardo-mb6ii]

Never noticed the names of the campers,great observation!

[@SohoEliminator]

are you bringing back the ET film week ones?

[@StigmataMarty]

I love this film

[@cythatnerd]

YASSS! Thanks for the reupload!

[@FadeIn2Obscurity]

Now all you need to do is upload all your old episodes that aren’t on the site anymore for some reason.

[@jacobaobert]

this is the longest best-off compilation i've seen when compared to what it's being the "best of"

[@Never_heart]

So they took a really well done twist that was actually forshadowed intelligently yet was unexpected... Then did this.

[@averageanimefan519]

Love this review! I hope you upload more old reviews!

[@yukiskyzero1313]

Coincidentally, I started watching your review of the first Sleepaway Camp when this episode just uploaded today. xD

[@fearnloathingingeneral]

Oh cool a new Cinema Sno- whuwhuWait whuttheFuck!

[@Greendalewitch]

Plot twist. Its still 2009. You just dreamt nine years into the future.

[@fantom5894]

9:43 He even compares Nail Gun Massacre favorably to this. Ouch!

[@BaraKabal]

Film was originally called Mullet Over.

[@davidhudson8428]

I'll be honest. I liked this movie. The change in the character is explained by her having gotten treatment and she's supposedly cured. It just failed to make her less murdery.

[@alwaysme_t]

Yay I miss the old cinema snob videos on your website when are they coming back?????

[@tyrant-den884]

SHE CAN DRIVE A CAR!!!!!

[@Formoka]

I love this review cuz the movie seems so funny when put through this lens. I kinda love that there’s a horror movie villain basically giggling like a school girl while killing people. All the cheesy jokes make me laugh. And I don’t like that many horror movies, so the fact that I got attached to this one makes it special.

[@patrickboian8545]

match going out before she tossed it was hilarious

[@SpeedyEric1]

13:27- Yeah, I love Crystal Pepsi in the same way. =D

[@heliossky3525]

wow six years ago! its crazy cuz snob looks so different but sounds exactly the same!

[@TheRealNormanBates]

6:40 Hey! That's General Gogol from THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY and.. (sigh)... OCTOPUSSY!

[@griffithmoony9263]

I found this version of angela enderring, of course it helps when everyone else was dull or annoying

[@geoffparis4337]

WALTER GOTTEL WAS UNCLE JOHN IN THIS AND GENRAL GOGOL IN ALL THE ROGER MOORE JAMES BONDS

[@timspellman47]

I'm glad you put out a video i need a laugh. Thanks.

[@duowest642]

Did anyone else notice that the guy that asks Angela to swim in this movie played Amber Heard's dad in pineapple express?

[@silverselkie1692]

I give credit, the idea of Angela just letting a miserable young girl leave does make sense. If the kid just didnt want to be there but wasnt actively being a jerk, i could see Angela empathizing.

[@heynae2016]

Yeah, I never got why they made her super chipper in this when she was really um..."👀" In the first, but a lot can happen in a few years

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Well she needed to have a personality.

[@mcgilj1]

to this: errrr.. ECT ... And you did see Aunt Martha in the first film right??! Yeah. Lol. She's definitely that loopy stuck in a sitcom aunt Martha.

[@MadiBendy]

Hi Snob! Crazy to be this early 😊

[@ThomasWilson4]

Omg I just realized one of my favorite albums by the band "these arms are snakes" is based off this movie. Look up the shit sisters or Angela's Secret

[@NibnabHalo]

I actually love This movie

[@ambergifford5811]

I am so happy Ican see this

[@justinpipes85]

I'm fully in support of old snob episodes getting uploaded every Friday.

[@fantom5894]

5:02 Didn't Pam's brother ever give her guitar lessons?

[@nobodynothing3735]

Saw the infamous leechy shit scene when I was 10. Explains a lot.

[@Kaefer1973]

For me Angela in this movie is way more creepy than Angela of the first movie was. A surprise penis wouldn't even have shaken me as a child in the 80's but Angela's happy attitude and constant talk about happy campers in this movie makes here seem awfully similar to the Orz from Star Control 2, which is the second part of a great classic game series that both the even better Master of Orion series as well as the almost as good Mass Effect series were largely "inspired by" (they ripped it off quite badly). Seeing as the Orz are probably the most unnerving alien species ever conceived in fiction, I can't help but feel intimidated by Angela's constant happy camper references.

[@Kaefer1973]

Sure Angela is no Eldritch Abomination, but generally speaking somebody who kills others with a smile seems more wrong and thus unnerving than somebody who does so with an appropriate expression.

[@hoodedman6579]

It'd be creepy if someone was like that in real life no doubt, but this being a movie means that it needs to at least seem believable while it's happening; this doesn't to most people, I think? And as a result, it just seems a whole lot stupider.

[@TonyLikeGames2]

R.I.P. Old intro song.

[@BlastAction]

The character names got sillier in pt. 3. They referenced The Brady Bunch, The Munsters and West Side Story!

[@ExplorerDS6789]

Cool! Hey, Brad, any plans to reupload Return to Sleepaway Camp?

[@marclewis5505]

4:55 How I felt watching Charlie's Angels.

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

The 2000 version or the 2019 version?

[@marclewis5505]

​@@user-dr2yz8um3d2019 version.

[@marclewis5505]

@@user-dr2yz8um3d 2019 version.

[@marclewis5505]

@@user-dr2yz8um3d the 2019 version.

[@najeea.8983]

That hair!

[@Blackiecomics]

You gonna re upload Souperman? I loved that episode.