the finality of cutting the print up is hard hitting to say the least !
@terrymccully3 жыл бұрын
you mean the negative, he cut the negative up
@Herkulez19814 жыл бұрын
That was just beautiful .....this inspired me to start shooting analog
@kamrankarin Жыл бұрын
You don’t need to shoot analog you can actually use your digital negatives to do large Platinum Palladium prints and they came out pretty good. I actually wonder if he had saved that negative digitally for future prints. There are many different mediums that a person could choose to express oneself, and this is one of them.
@tracystorer68083 жыл бұрын
40"x60" Pt/Pd print ! Well done ! Cutting up the original 8"x10" negative seems a bit affected though, as you've already scanned it to make the large negative for the contact print. Even so, I know very well that a bit of theater is necessary in art and business. No disrespect to anyone intended.
@mulveyphoto3 жыл бұрын
Ummm yea so it's 6o inch pictorico. Where is that negative? I might have been more enthralled actually with the 8x10 neg as a contact print and then the neg destroyed. I mean at least get a 30 by 40 camera if you want to wow and then re wow.
@mjmdiver11372 жыл бұрын
@@mulveyphoto Plus the digital file... so yeah, he can always print another enlarged negative...
@timthompsondp Жыл бұрын
Looks absolutely amazing.
@donniecallaway25462 жыл бұрын
This is utterly fantastic. True art
@aGuy4 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely beautiful and extraordinary process. This is the very pinnacle of photographic endeavour.
@macmacoytot4 жыл бұрын
that film was scanned to make a large digital negative, right? so the film cutting is just a ceremony and you can still make another print if you would like.
@NasserAlhameli4 жыл бұрын
Yes! He used the neg. one
@kinopilot4 жыл бұрын
Enlarging, or giant negative print of the scan?
@LaViejaConsolada4 жыл бұрын
You have two options: enlargement on giant film, or digital negative. Either way you had lose information, so you will never be able to reproduce another print without losing detail. If you kept the enlarged negative you would be able to make, potentially, an exact copy of the print, but that is, obviously, not very desirable.
@padesig4 жыл бұрын
@@LaViejaConsolada please, cut negatives is pointless, you should know. First: any kind of negative can be reproduced exactly as the master or even better, the process is widely known. So you can do an internegative and from that internegative produce a variety of different types of negative for different techniques or again the exact negative copy. So this procedure is pointless. And, in the case of platinum, you use a cotton paper and isn't required a great detailed negative to obtain that print.
@onethumb22jrushton534 жыл бұрын
You were so groovy on ricks pod! TYSO “Balcony Series” thanks for the flooding of fun stories and immense amount of knowledge!!! Gang Gang
@MichaelDiblicek4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was awesome, great image, and beautiful printing. Great team effort, with a hint of "nerves of steel"
@aldoileanumeliber3 жыл бұрын
Wow man. This video jush shows photography isn't dead as an art form. Loved it!
@ukbloke2811 ай бұрын
As a gesture, that developer throw was beautiful. Like a sumi stroke, once chance or die.
@PBosco3 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Pretty self-aggrandizing title. There are a LOT of great pt/pd printers - long before you showed up. And remember, "Humility slays pride."
@hautehussey3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the negative that was used for the contact print? Was that cut up and included also?
@SR-hf9kv3 жыл бұрын
Anyone have thoughts what film type this was? I could see two notches sticking up on either side - but haven't been able to figure it out.... Cheers
@epicroadtripwithpiotrgorski4 ай бұрын
Nice video! Thanks for sharing!
@marknachmias4234 жыл бұрын
The print looks exquisite. I would love to see it in person. Totally worth the effort.
@F1lmtwit2 жыл бұрын
Don't you still have a digital copy you can make a digital negative to make more prints?
@puppetyr2 жыл бұрын
Precisely. The cutting up of the negative is largely theatrics, unless he personally ensured every copy of the scan used to make the enlarged digital negative was also destroyed.
@FlamelXXII4 жыл бұрын
wow impresive process and print!
@nnelgsiggah3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! I stand to be corrected but is there not a digital negative the same size as the finished print?
@keithsnyder29113 жыл бұрын
there must be
@goldcoastmotors374 ай бұрын
What a title! Expected a cinematic masterpiece with never seen before content about an almost unicorn like skill set. Still trying to find the right words.
@Thomas-es5nn Жыл бұрын
Tyler. the 8x10 neg that you cut up at the end of the video is for a 8x10 Platinum Palladium print, not for the 40x60, right? I don't think you can make a Pt/Pd print by projection using an enlarger (at least very difficult if not impossible). Maybe it's just me but it isn't too clear in the video.
@lichtmaler4 жыл бұрын
wow - absolutely amazing!
@maxmonat4 жыл бұрын
You just gave me a new life goal, the dream will become truth, only death will stop me!
@barneywilenofficialАй бұрын
1/1 I like that very much. Lots of BS artists out there with “limited” editions… limited to what exactly?! You do the right thing. Destroy the negative. Great.
@pedrorosario4 жыл бұрын
congratulations amazing work!
@marknachmias4234 ай бұрын
You're a madman but I'm glad someone is doing it.
@HayesPeterson4 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes man! 9 months, curious how much it will sell for. 👍🏼
@cowboyyoga4 жыл бұрын
Wow Tyler! Thank you ! This is one of the most touching videos. It brings photography to a whole other level of art! It is just super exciting! )))))
@mjmdiver11372 жыл бұрын
This guy clearly went to the Michael A. Smith School of Self-Promotion...
@motorvelo5 ай бұрын
But the print sized negative for the contact print still exists, so another print could still be made. Also what about the digital file used when scanning the 10x8 original. So that’s two ways to create another platinum print. I am assuming the models lips were originally shot on 10x8 and not as a smaller format image, say medium format Hasselblad and then enlarged 10x8. It all seems a bit cloudy and lacking transparency.
@chrisperceval1934 жыл бұрын
Very impressive! It is bugging me but somewhere online I have seen multi-layer platinum/palladium printing done on a large scale. May have been a variant of the Kosel method but I am no expert. The paper was bonded to a huge aluminium sheet to maintain structural stability and registration and rye process carried out from there. I don’t recall how many re-coatings were done. The d-max is significantly enhanced by the process. I am sure there are a host of issues to deal with, not least being adequate washing.
@konstantinosstag64363 жыл бұрын
He destroyed the negative in order to increase the value of his print since now it's the only one that exists and there cannot be another one. But here is the thing: I would argue that artistically nothing changes. A bad image is not going to get any better by becoming the only one. It is only going to be a very unique bad image. But no one is going to enjoy looking at it because of that. And an image that has a unique idea that is executed perfectly is always going to beautiful.People are going to appreciate it regardless of whether there is another one or not. So the only thing that really changes is a concept that concerns the buyer mostly. There is only one print and thus the price for it is justified. So i would argue that this is an artificial way of boosting the perceived value of a work of art that is based on how we as a society value things mostly within the confines of our economic system. Now, this is not some kind of anti capitalism comment. I am just trying to state it as i see it. Besides, i myself am conflicted about it. I do not really like the idea of exclusive art but i do get the idea of creating something that is unique and one of it's kind. I guess i feel that in this case it is somewhat forced because it goes against the photographic reality: there is a negative that you can reproduce unlike say a painting that is unique by its nature. But obviously it is his choice.
@terrywyse4 жыл бұрын
That’s what I call Dedication.
@trvr4 жыл бұрын
Just awesome! Beautiful :)
@tylershieldsvideos4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@bnk574 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@benjamindejonge36243 жыл бұрын
Do you work with 8X20 negatives as well
@NH4Ukraine23 жыл бұрын
At 3:25 “What if we could a 40x60 platinum print”. Hear Tyler audibly gasp.
@_H_20234 жыл бұрын
I think I would prefer it with the edging exposed not hidden by the mount. ie 6:50
@hajmanek3 жыл бұрын
Crazy, and amazing
@juliussternfeld4284 жыл бұрын
If it was one of your best pictures, you would never destroy the negative. At least I wouldn’t.
@kenlor714 жыл бұрын
By destroying the neg, the value of the print goes through the roof.
@Being_Joe3 жыл бұрын
supply and demand, basic economics
@OFFproduzioni3 жыл бұрын
But that was not the negative used for the print itself... The negative used for the print is as large as the print is and I guess it's been conserved somewhere.
@padesig4 жыл бұрын
So he is the best printer in the world for this technique? What is you metering for this? Maybe the size of the print? Please, see many (many!) other stunning printers in the world using platinum-palladium process...
@keithsnyder29113 жыл бұрын
The Hidden Light guys are pretty good but Penn was better, I would argue that the people in the Platypus group are 'better" but personal taste an style is important. There is the Russian guy in NYC -forget his name- that did pretty massive prints of Elliot Irwin"s work. HP was promoting their printers the z3200 to make the enlarged negs. there was avideo on the youtube a while back.I think the guys name was Dmitry - have to look it up.
@FilmCameraObsession3 жыл бұрын
So cool. So...so...cool.
@arnaldogenitrini7658Ай бұрын
he cut the negative, but what happen to the digital negatve used to contact print the palladium print? It does not make sense...
@Yulfi4 жыл бұрын
That was cool.
@JontySG4 жыл бұрын
Insane! Fantastic.. but insane!
@TeteRecinos4 жыл бұрын
Holy mother of photography 🤤
@tylershieldsvideos4 жыл бұрын
you like?
@TeteRecinos4 жыл бұрын
@@tylershieldsvideos I love this.
@tylershieldsvideos4 жыл бұрын
@@TeteRecinos thank you
@siulsomar174 жыл бұрын
WOW !
@Ezio1084 жыл бұрын
The photo and the print are amazing, great work! But to cut a negative is against the real nature of photography, which in its nature is reproducibility. Ansel Adams did never cut his negatives. I found this process only commercial to keep the price of the print high.
@padesig4 жыл бұрын
I agree. And because any negative can be reproduced with an internegative, this cut on pieces is pointless. Someone should tell them...! 🤔😂
@keithsnyder29113 жыл бұрын
@@padesig I just told them above. Print neg is a digital enlargement of the original 8x10 unless I am missing a new piece of magical equipment that has been designed and produced recently that allows for the enlargement of 8x10 negatives onto pt/pd thereby eliminating the negative the size of the final print. show that 40x60 negative and cut that into pieces. On the other note Brett Weston BURNED all his negs when he was 80 because he did not want anyone else to print them. AP covered it. For the record I have not destroyed any of my negatives. But then no one gives a damn if I have or have not haha. This Tyler guy is a bit of a showman and a salesman.
@jjualvare4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but after you have developed your print what do you do with the developer? Do you recycle it or discard it? If you discard it, how do you discard it? Reason being, I don't want to start pouring a pollutant down the drain. Thanks.
@crisanister51314 жыл бұрын
I don't think they discard the developer, used chemistry is better than new one. I suspect they just pour it back into the bottle and reuse it.
@padesig4 жыл бұрын
Developer on platinum process can be reused illimitate times. Many aged platinum printers keep large bottle with many years because the developer contains platinum and increase the final contrast of the image without the needs of large amount of fresh platinum solution.
@CarmineGroe4 жыл бұрын
Why not submerge paper into the tray of chemistry?
@choyharris7474 жыл бұрын
The print is good!! Excellent! In China...you can easily see we do platinum prints sized 1 meter x 2 meters...or even a little bit bigger. : )
@choyharris7473 жыл бұрын
you should be able to see in PhotoShanghai...or photo galleries in different provinces. My point is your print are much much better,,!!
@jdefritter4 жыл бұрын
Platinum/Palladium is more permanent/stable than a carbon print?
@LaViejaConsolada4 жыл бұрын
I would say that it is. In a carbon print only the surface of the paper/canvas is affected. In practical terms both of them are everlasting.
@dannypope37604 ай бұрын
surely the negative created from the original should be destroyed?
@marisaroper51044 жыл бұрын
You are the coolest
@CertainExposures4 жыл бұрын
So did he nail the pour on the first try?
@keithsnyder29113 жыл бұрын
this is needless drama. the "throw" as they say or the pour is nonsense. Fill the tray with enough devloper and submerge the print as usual, face down and agitate a bit. Turn it over and develop for 3-4 mins no need to make a mess throwing expensive developer around. I have developed 26x38 sheets of KOZO this way and that medium is far more difficult than the paper used in the video. The HiddenLight guys are pretty good I must say though.
@luisguillen70053 жыл бұрын
The anxiety cutting the negative.
@dewskyroy34452 ай бұрын
you never thought of doing theater?
@nrcltn3 жыл бұрын
6:36 O_O
@kerikkouklis2 жыл бұрын
“Best Pt printer in the world”. Lol. Did I miss the “Platinum Printing Wars” on the food channel or something? Ego can be such an ugly thing…
@WstawajGramy3 жыл бұрын
The print is amazing, the process is mesmerizing, but... the photo is just good.
@Necroblob2 жыл бұрын
Seeing you cut the negative made me feel sick. Cool process / print though!
@catsradicals26463 жыл бұрын
you are a bad ass.
@SgtSuissie2 жыл бұрын
That image looks so weird
@nelsonclub77223 жыл бұрын
I did this with my H6D but had to use a hammer instead of scissors....
@Being_Joe3 жыл бұрын
haha, i know you are not destroying that negative at the same lab where you made that print ;)
@James-gz6iq4 жыл бұрын
Expensive is not a word that exists in the photography world.
@_brayanenriquez10 ай бұрын
Sad they did this on a lackluster image.
@gerryyaum4 жыл бұрын
interesting video, a bit over stated but got to love the devotion...Think he overplayed the pour danger a tad...a motor for the agitation? Tray to heavy?..Destroying the neg is arrogant artist artsy fartsy salesman crap...more interested than sales are we?
@pascalriben-photographs9533 жыл бұрын
Cutting the negative can look impressive but you've no proof that the photographer dind't have: - make many times the same shot - made hi resolution scan of the negative (from what you can make a new negative). Not saying that the photograph did it, just that the possibility exists.
@mechanicalcanvas2 жыл бұрын
The only way to make a print that big is to have a digital negative the same size as the print. Unless he also cut up the digital negative and then deleted the scan he used to make it, he'll still be able to re-print that image.
@chenriquesiqueira4 жыл бұрын
Great. But destroy the film is crazy.
@RobertXPhotography4 жыл бұрын
These people have to be rich starting off. I mean.. who the hell says, "I'm getting a business loan for a few hundreds of thousands of dollars, buying all this equipment, paper, chemicals and start offering photo printing that's soooo outdated that no one does it professionally." I'm guessing other rich hipsters are the ones that give them all their business. I mean.. don't get me wrong, I think it's great this old way of printing is being kept around, if for historical purposes only, but as a business? How is this even viable??
@kenlor714 жыл бұрын
Actually, shooting in medium or large format can be started for less than $2000usd. I had two 4x5 cameras with lenses and sold them both because I couldn't be bothered with dealing with chemistry or paying for film and processing anymore. Digital is great, but it has limits.
@RobertXPhotography4 жыл бұрын
@@kenlor71 Not talking about shooting in large format. I'm talking about the manner in which they print it.
@jpm744 жыл бұрын
@@RobertXPhotography Do you know how expensive restaurants are to start up? The staff, the equipment, the stocking of ingredients? And how successful are start up restaurants? Not very. This is much more expensive than setting up you run of the mill darkroom. But I doubt the equipment it's that much more expensive than these boutique higher volume film labs. There are no developing machines. They're using the same enlarger techniques that lots of hobbyists use (pioneered by Adams). The only difference is they have larger development trays and the cost of the chemicals. The difference in rent and taxes alone between LA/NY and Arizona would probably more than cover those costs.
@leafsfan714 жыл бұрын
I almost puked when you cut the negative 😩😩😩
@defnotbutmaybe3 жыл бұрын
edward weston was far more advanced than ansel adams as a photographer and a printer
@michaelsherck50993 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Paul Strand or Imogen Cunningham (American contemporaries of Adam's and Weston)?
@DCWray4 жыл бұрын
Platinum printing is contact; what happened to the internegative to create the print, was that destroyed as well...
@CanicularesDies4 жыл бұрын
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@PaulVanCaesbroeck3 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment on this topic. Even without the original negative, more prints can be made with the internegative. If this is correct, Tyler should explain it and not give the buyer the illusion that she/he buys “one of a kind”.
@arthurrmcphee48854 жыл бұрын
I was impressed right up until he cut the negative into bits and said why! That's just ego of the printer, the photographer just lost his image. I as a photographer would never allow any printer to destroy a negative that has the ability to be used in fifty, one hundred years from now! WTF
@thaddeusr3 жыл бұрын
The photographer is the one who cut up the negative. Not the printer. Does this change your feelings?
@keithsnyder29113 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with cutting up the neg-pretty sure that was the photographer doing that. His choice. But unless there is proof that the digital file that created the enlarged negative (this is a contact print people) and that inkjet or scitex neg or whatever is cut up then another print can be made whenever.
@NotFromConcentrate2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that's the photographer and he wanted to make his image a 1/1. I've seen other videos with him and his work. The printer is the one with the beard.
@SoberParty4 жыл бұрын
I submit that it was Edward S.Curtis blows him away. My opinion based on history. Ansel Adams over rated, many printers as good as Adams then and now. Zone System What put him on the map was the controversy folks created around him. He was criticized because while all were busting there asses during WWII he was out making beautiful idilic images. I also submit there is no such thing as the best platinum printer ludicrous. As a fine art photographer and photography historian I find that laughable as does anyone versed in the methods history and use. Want to see an even more difficult process look up the daguerreotype. There are a handful that still practice this. Sooooo uh yeah.... Wonder if Mat uses fumed silica? By the way palladium and platinum printing though laborious compared to the fast food digital printing it is an easy process to do. The only thing nescessary for a large print is a large negative, large contact printer and the ☀️ sun. The original UV light source and one does not even need a dark room to do the process. One may coat and dry the paper under tungsten light. The more you know..... Credit to Mat for continuing the tradition! Hopefully he does not screw up big prints by not doing test strips. The developer drama was funny because it develops until it does not lol and it is done. The only way to screw that up is not having the contrast proper via the emulsion being mixed proper or unproperly exposed to the sun. Oh the drama.... But for the uneducated it sucks em in I suppose like so much of the media today. Thanks for the post even though it’s full of hyperbole lol. My mentoring teacher was John Scarlatta God rest his soul.
@user-ti9zc1xv2b4 жыл бұрын
I've worked with John for over 30 years, we were colleagues at CalArts, he would despise your distasteful use of words here. There is absolutely no need to be hostile like this. Rest in peace.
@habuerunt3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to go with Irving Penn as the all-time master, though Curtis and his darkroom assistant at the time (Imogen Cunningham) were really excellent, and Frederick Evans, maybe the best of all-time. The issue with the developer pour is real - you have to cover the exposed image virtually instantaneously, otherwise you get a solid pour line, or immersion line, that does not "develop out" - so yes, that drama was real. Did you study with John at Va Intermont or Appstate - he was a great guy and photo teacher, and a colleague of mine.