The BEST PLUGIN CONTROLLER?? || MP MIDI

[@tomman7729]

I’ve had it for a few days now and I’m really happy with it so far. It support most plugins manufacturers, but not everyone that I have right now. But the support has been sublime and they’re updating their software continuously.

[@ilikemyrealname]

How much did you pay for it?

[@lewissbrowne]

@@ilikemyrealname saw on another comment that it’s $1200

[@TeslaOsiris]

While I can see the appeal for some...that kind of price tag is not worth its features for a producer like me.

[@gavmurray7398]

can you share what plug ins are not supported at this stage?

[@tomman7729]

@@gavmurray7398 actually there aren’t many plugins that aren’t working for me. I still haven’t tried softsynths though. I prefer using AU and for instance Soundtoys plugins doesn’t work in AU but works when using VST. Soothe2 and DrMs are the only plugin that for now doesn’t work with either AU nor VST, that bugs me a little. But Spiff works, so it will probably be sorted out. I’ve also struggled with some Kazrog plugins (synth warmer and Kclip3) while True Iron works. But yeah most of the biggest brands seems to be all working. And if it’s not possible to encode the plugin parameters to the knobs, right now (still work in progress), the touchscreen can be used, which is fully functional on all plugins I’ve tried. I don’t use Pro tools so I haven’t tried it with AAX.

[@FDMastering]

Have been using for a couple of weeks now and well… I’m pretty pretty happy so far. Really handy and helps a lot with the workflow, at least to do mastering :) I totally recommend ! Cheers.

[@Rgdonaire_07]

White Sea = Wytze, I’ve just realized the origin of your studio name. Simply brilliant.

[@hettovennik2887]

Wow. Didn't spot that yet hahah

[@AirArtStudiosOfficial]

Good mind you have

[@kidjo-100]

i dont get it explain???

[@hettovennik2887]

@@kidjo-100 In Dutch, "Wytze" sounds like "Wietse" But in the UK/USA they just don't get this Fries accent so they may have called Wytze for a mastering job "HEY Whitsesea!' ;-)

[@yuvalhadad9327]

Hi, Please check it again 🙏🏻

[@akagerhard]

Having you say "keep pushing" as if you were a fitness-youtuber makes me smile. I like smiling :D

[@TeslaOsiris]

The price isn’t advertised on their website...so that means one will have to take out a mortgage to be able to buy one.

[@tomman7729]

I paid $1200 for it.

[@SEIBORG]

@@tomman7729 Would you say the price is justifiable to you? I feel this would be a great tool for mixing/mastering.

[@RogerBrenon]

@@tomman7729 Why? I can't see any advantages to it at all. What makes this worth it? What do you think so far?

[@dougleydorite]

@@RogerBrenon I mean he outlines in the video.. to me, this is a stepping stone. The next faderport mixing board should be up to this standard. There’s nothing better than physical touch/response faders, knobs, switches etc. It needs to be extremely user friendly. Think of loading in an impulse response today vs 5 years ago. The hardware needs to have the same kind of experience. No scratching your head… may as well just stick to a keyboard and mouse

[@tomman7729]

@@SEIBORG only time will tell if it’s worth it. I’m going to have it as my centerpiece on my desk. and being able to control my most used plugins and load it super fast with a Stream Deck in Ableton will hopefully become the workflow I’ve dreamt of. Being able to control two parameters simultaneously will probably step up my automation game and I do really like dialing in my effects with a knob instead of a mouse @Roger Brenon.

[@uliauer7117]

Hey Wytse! What happend to your MP MIDI controller after your pretty euphoric first impressions video? You announced back then that you would do a more complete review but that didn't happen....for a certain reason? Were there any dealbreaking issues you've encountered ? I've just stumbled upon it elsewhere just today while doing some more research on the SSL UF1/UC1/UF8 system (thanks for your video on that!) and found the approach by MP MIDI very appealing, because I already use a dedicated touchscreen forever in combination of custom made controllers for controlling plugins - but that integrated solution in the MP really makes that just more compact on the already crowded desk.....so I would really like to know what turned you off.....!

[@Packogualandrisofficial]

Any news about this? I'm really interested in that unit 🙂 Happy Holidays!

[@NERDOFUNK]

The future is now, great!

[@cankaya8675]

Hi, could you please update 🎶 🙏🏽 Would like to know, which Plug-In-Controller is the best right now. Would be great to know, what ist actually missing and how producers and engineers can address these gaps. For instance, I've come across the absence of motorized faders in these controllers. Is there an alternative way to integrate another controller with motorized faders into this setup with the MP Midi 2A? Thanks for your help 🙏🏽❤️

[@wildboary]

Looks like a successor for the discontinued Novation Automap. Any news on the full review?

[@steffenbott70]

What's the cause we never hear back about your experience with this controller?

[@psychonautics4339]

Because he is busy with spending too much time with it lol

[@emiel333]

An iPad can do the same thing with Sidecar if you own a Mac. It’s nice that this controller is equipped with physical controls, but placed in every side (bottom, left, right, top) surrounding the touch screen seems inconvenient to work with. But I can be wrong at the latter assumption, though.

[@akagerhard]

Hello again. So I've been running into issues with my fingers and hand recently. Apparrently using a mouse and keyboard all day is not healthy and lifting weights doesn't seem to be great for wrist neither - but I keep pushing of course! I am looking into controlleroptions, because I feel like that will probably be a good thing in terms of diversifying movements. I'd love something that controls all plugins without being confusing and this seems to come closest to what I imagine. You said you wanted to do an in-depth-review later on - so my question is: Is this still planned? cheers, Gerhard

[@davidpeterson7158]

Interested to get but...where is the new updated review? TX

[@ChristopherSimmons]

Got mine couple weeks back and love it so far.

[@vdub4216]

@Wytse - this product deserves a follow up please !!! Any improvements, upgrades, news? close to buying one...

[@audiumsoundwaves]

Are you still using this? Would love to see an update.

[@joshd265]

Hopefully this will become more widely used. Would be cool if you could hide the plugin interface and just see the parameter labels so you can mix without any visual wave signal views you get in plugs like FF and iZotope

[@randomcustomer2806]

Oh yes!, THIS is the thing I've been waiting for.

[@shengwho8430]

Damn brother those are some nice gifts in the mail.

[@Charlie_Echo]

Did you ever do a full review of this?

[@GrumpyGr3g]

Perfect, what I needed to see! Will give a better look on what they say, watch other reviews and so, but this looks solid and very handy to control compressors, limiters and some other tools that do not have auto-gain ! And also, workflow using fingers and not mouse is something else…

[@djembeboyzach]

Hi, did you do a review of this. I looked for it but could not find it. Looks great. You still using it? Is it a game changer. Thanks

[@WDShorty]

Do you only have to map each plugin once and how long are the steps of loading it in?

[@Aeson008]

Hey Ho! What's happened to this controller, why is the next vid never happened? I'm thinking to get one, but it looks shady to me. Thanks!

[@iamkp2526]

I bought one about a month ago, it works very well, but I found the setup a bit complicated, but I always got help quickly by email.

[@edukacja2485]

Wow, this looks awesome, might fit my workflow perfectly. Have you tested multi plugin mode and oversampling mode on it? If so, it will be really nice to mention it in full review (I'm really interested in that). Also, as you're Reaper user, can you store MP Host with some plugin loaded as FX Chain (to rename it to plugin's original name). And is multitouch working on Mac? Can't wait to see full review!

[@joetowers4804]

I think something quite similar can be achieved with a touch monitor, mdi knobs and Realearn. Well, of course you need Reaper for that.

[@Cooly-D]

Oh i was waiting for something like this!! Awesome!

[@sebbityseb]

This. Changes. Everything.

[@mattbukovski92]

I don't understand how it would integrate with Ableton. Do I have to drag a VST plugin to this device's window everytime i want to change anything in a single instance of any plugin? And do I have to map it every single time or every time when I have a new project in my DAW?

[@tylerdengler6960]

I don’t think you have to drag anything to the window. It works very similarly to FL Studio and Softube Console 1 where they have what they call as wrappers that allows the UI to be hosted and controlled by the controller that you put on an insert in your chain where you can use a single instance per insert or have a whole chain (Up to 12 inserts I believe; may be wrong) on one insert similar to Waves Studiorack.

[@TigroGumi]

This is what I was looking for... AAAmazing!!!

[@blessed_by_welfare5922]

Any updates?

[@didgekeeper]

Hi Guys, I really want this part, in the mp midi shop it would like 848 euros with delivery and tax, comes from China and should I pay it to a bank in Cyprus !? Anyone have experience with it ??? Withesea, how did you get this part ?? Greetings an enthusiastic subscription

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hey did you integrate this into your workflow ?

[@vroteg]

You need to try NOB control. It’s one precision knob. Simple and elegant. Control everything under mouse pointer.

[@Mansardian]

I already read about that one before, but couldn't find the price back then. Especially the variable resolution of the knobs looks promising.

[@kaafaa8036]

790$ or 789.99 only

[@Shawneverette]

Why is it Mackie got this to work with their C4 and their software works in the background. This product is amazing if they could get the software to work in the background vs having to use the mouse again to navigate. Someone needs to figure this out. We are close.

[@petermican]

Great presetation, thanks for sharing...What is your experience after one year of use ? Would you buy it again ?

[@philipgalaura760]

Did you ever get this into your studio

[@waedi73]

The background image from Holland looks great !

[@klausgetrost1534]

The hardware with the wodden frame from the videos on their website shows the controllers inside the display. The knobs melted almost with the display. That looks really like converting the plugin into a hardware. It seems they weren't able to produce it.

[@architechproducer]

It really looks great. Maybe it should have both knobs and also some sliders though.

[@0lgarythm]

Wow, I'm even more excited to see all the hacks random peoples will design out of it

[@MaxFreist]

Hey Wytze! So are you (still) using this controller? Great video, curious about the follow up!

[@nathanmoser856]

Going to keep my eyes out for the full review later! Could you play around with the multitouch support in the review for a good bit and show us what that is like?

[@pavlebn]

I've been so pissed off that there are no good options for plugin controllers and wanted to start building my own. The concept would've been similar, create a plugin wrapper and save profiles for each plugin. Still tho, might be a fun project to do sometime

[@tylerdengler6960]

But, it’ll definitely take a lot of effort into the coding and troubleshooting for the product.

[@gavmurray7398]

i can see this being popular with lots of creators. could possibly be pretty useful for video editing and photo and video colour grading etc.. on my watch list for sure.

[@brentgreeff1115]

Yea - I was actively looking for something to use with Premier Pro / Photoshop, - the screen doesnt look good enough for the actual image you are working on, but to hold tool windows etc.

[@gavmurray7398]

@@brentgreeff1115 yeah that was my thought to have scopes on there etc

[@gwsound]

It is not similar but if you use the Akai Mpc-X in controller mode it will map any plugin in your daw to the Qlink knobs on the unit.

[@duboracle]

The commercial market is trying to bring back analog gear into the studio again, after we finally dont need it anymore. Like we make all money by producing music it in the first place. I am thinking to buy a old mouse with a ball in it from the old days by the way, thats more then enough in being vintage.

[@LoveItDirtyOffroad]

U may love the Slate mtz. I would but would also like knobs. Someone should make a screen where knob pop out of screen what all plugins. Magic!

[@aether3395]

I think I will buy it, in your recent video you don't seem to uses it on your workflow ? Is there a specific reason or just you dont need it cause of the stream deck/ UF1 ... ?

[@georgesabi-aad8176]

So I've been fiddling around with this device for a few days but I'm really bithered by the use of the wrapper, am I the only one here ?

[@jf542]

i wanted something like this forever

[@scoremix8556]

Avid isnt closed any more - Its EUCON. I use the Avid stuff on Logic too.

[@RustyRogear]

I wonder if you can also use it for video and illustration apps..

[@stefanfelssner]

Update on this? ;-)

[@MACRONOne]

Yes, fresh content!

[@citizenworld8094]

15 inch dutch screen?

[@AirArtStudiosOfficial]

Looks like a wicked piece of kit!

[@dykodesigns]

Looks cool, but also very big. You definitely need a big desk for it, but I guess it could save you an extra monitor.

[@timosaruh9232]

Thanks for a good video! I hope you could make another describing how this interacts with the normal workflow in a Daw, like Ableton Live. Do we still see the plugins as before in the Daw, or are they hidden in the MP plugin and does the MP plugin then has to be on every track? The controller itself looks awesome. I already have the Push2, but I dont find it very useful when produsing, and I wonder if the MP handles this aspect better. Thanks again! Cheers!

[@errmable]

I like it but currently having issues with the touch screen not working on the older mac.

[@kiillabytez]

Using the Learn function on your controller accomplishes the same thing, right?

[@010203109]

That thing is really cool, if it had a keyboard with mini keys and/or a pad grid optional attachment with a short cord that plugs into it to make a unified controller for sound design with virual synths of all kinds and developing parts with your patches, that would be neat too. I know there are small midi keyboards out there but often the keys aren't that great about the range of velocity they can smoothly log unless you move up to something like the Arturia Minilab or the NI Komplete Kontrol M32, which are bulky and have encoders and stuff of their own. I'm thinking a slimmed down expansion controller designed to rely on the MP Midi for all that stuff and just sits nicely in a narrow space between the MP and the edge of you desk, keeping it all lined up together and comfortably in reach, or side by side, or on different levels of a multi level stand setup for live performance or something.

[@Jakker271]

You can do that virtually. Not the same of course but what people need to remember is that it is a second of third monitor that connects to a computer and so you can do a lot. If you struggle with the size and there's no resize capability you can just load magnify up on your computer. Or if you want control with a virtual mod wheel etc, you can do that with xotopad. It's quite chunky but I like the fact you can get more out of it then advertised.

[@TimTim-fw1gl]

Great video! I have one coming tomorrow! I have never put out a KZbin video but I will try. I also have a “nOb control” on the way, that might have been a mistake. I was on the list for sooo long for it. We will see if I use both.

[@DeejayAfro]

You Literally make me earn too much money to get new things ... this is one of those things I will earn in the next month's !!! I see that you're asthmatic !! all my prayers to you, I've being there !!!

[@abj358]

I just discovered this. And I know this is a very late comment in this particular comment party, but did you purchase and implement this baby? I think it is the goofiest thing I've ever seen. But I LOVE the potential and have dreamed of something similar just for getting my hands on (literally) my plugins. I love buttons and knobs and abhor a mouse. If you didn't choose to implement this controller, can you say what tuned you away from it?

[@socksincrocks4421]

Are you related to Theresa, the OSX Hackintosher?

[@matthewturek9331]

would love to see a review of the SSL UC1 midi controller, great content as always!

[@uuno.turhapuro]

do you still use it? is it good or the best?

[@prspktvsounds5220]

I use a combo of the DJ midi fighter twister and remotify to do a similar thing all in sub 300 is what iv'e paid and it has similar mapping for any controller but Ableton only

[@lincolnmmitchell]

Thanks Garth!!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Have you ever gotten around to do a review yet?

[@kaeptn]

how to deal with opening the wrapper first then opening the plugin instead of normally only having to open the plugin once. also could you put the plugin on the main screan instead and could you control plugins that are not wrapped with the encoders?

[@NeonPLotus]

I was looking at this about a year ago, and was hoping you’d get one to try out. Thanks.

[@SajinStroke]

Looks great, but I think in the end I would still prefer the mouse, keyboard combo in everyday use... it's just the fastest way to get things done

[@SpenceDaFence]

I have a make-or-break question to ask: How well does it run Tracktion F’em?

[@bighornaudioproductions6104]

I dig it! you should review the ssl native channel strip 2 bus 2 The ssl ufc uf8 360 is epic!

[@allenthomas182]

UFC UF8 SSL all the way!

[@vdub4216]

Can't wait to see more of this units potential. I hope you can work with the developer and make some progress... Keen on this but need to see more before splashing that kind of cash around. The 'dial colour squares' and labelling are ugly and look clunky... Would be good to see an overhaul of the animation for the dials. Like if the name was in the centre and you could group certain dials into a colour group without having the spaces between the coloured background squares. The unit looks amazing from a construction perspective but I would want a better GUI overhaul. I'd probably make my own custom backgrounds per plugin with group labels and matching colours to underlie the coloured dial squares... but that's me.

[@prodbyhushed4712]

Hey Wytze, First of all , Really big fan of your videos. I'd like to know about the touch response of the touch display and how well it responds , Hope you respond to my comments !

[@Whiteseastudio]

Its a capacitive touch screen, so it responds really well!

[@leekeegan1560]

Great video. Please compare or review SSL UF8 and SSL UC1 🤞🏻

[@daviddelemont]

Can you do a review of Bandlab Mastering?

[@blendragon28]

How does this compare to something like the Slate Raven?

[@temizu6084]

thats cool and all but have you tried the uc1

[@andygreen5565]

Would love to see you review the new SSL-UC1.

[@MarcosBlancArg]

huuu, ese controlador esta tremendo, compacto y se ve muy fácil de usar.

[@rossbalch]

I would love something like this. But it's a bit pricey for me for a controller. I can see how the price is justified but it's a bit rich for me. What I do is use an Arturia beat step, and all the plugins I use regularly have default midi maps automatically applied when I open them in reaper.

[@MrMitchfromtoronto]

The price is advertised as €780 including worldwide express shipping. What's concerning is what you're expected to agree to "By clicking on the button below and completing the purchase, you confirm that you understand the use and limitations of the MP MIDI Controller and you agree with the terms and conditions in this page, which govern any purchase of the MP MIDI Controller system."

[@AMPProf]

New merch image suggestion: The face @ about 0:16/or the face in the clip used for the intro transition.

[@justinmarcus1049]

You say it's "open" but I disagree: it relies on a wrapper; and only supports some VST and AU plugins - no host DAW native plugins etcetera etcetera... For me (especially at that price) it's a deal breaker. Especially as ReaLearn can do this with any hardware controller and screen/touchscreen combi - or SmarKnobs 2. Both Reaper specific of course (but I know you're using Reaper.

[@ethancartr6]

looks amazing!!

[@ryanpwm]

Wow this is it! I've always looked at obs and was like.. hm it can auto select windows dynamically that you set. So set a plugin to window to map to a screen and permanently map control and why cant it be hardware controlled. And finally some mad scientist actually did it.

[@mixedbymikael]

Intriguing my dear chap.

[@TheOniProducciones]

¡Hello! Can you Review Warmy EP1A EQ from Kiive Audio? It is free, but would be cool see if it worths or it's just another mediocre "emulation" of EQP1A

[@sundamusik]

Ive been looking at this one, i think it looks great and a great piece of gear. Bless

[@edgarleal3519]

Please do the full review

[@miekwavesoundlab]

Does this work standalone? Can it program sysex?

[@skrie]

I have a question. Did you load any plugins in it that have a big UI? I'm very very curious how well this would work with for example a Synthesizer plugin. Those have very big UI's. And I love using Synth plugins... but I hate hot having buttons. I have external midi controllers, but it's hard to keep track of my mappings (except sticking sticky notes on the controller like I do now). The nice screen would solve that. But since it's not that big... I wonder if I could still read the plugins that have big UI's. Hence my question.

[@roodegar]

Depends on the plugin. Plugins with big UIs need to be resized down, especially if they have "advanced" sections like many of the Arturia plugins and you don't want them to cover up your labels. Reading works fine but buttons and knobs can get quite small and difficult to touch. Most interfaces aren't designed with touch in mind. In some instances I mapped important buttons to encoders. Some plugins like Diva and Pigments can be tricky to map because the controls change based on the modules you choose. Or they just have too many controls and you can't map everything. But you have 4 pages with 32 encoders each and this is enough to cover the most important scenarios. Overall it works very well and is way better than any other controllers that I have used so far, including Komplete Kontrol and Arturia KeyLab which have a tight integration with their software. TAL plugins for example work great and you can even use the faders on the touch screen without having to map knobs to them. Although the knobs are more accurate. Physical faders would be nice to have too of course, but we can't have everything I guess.

[@mattelder4269]

Did you have to use a display port adapter for HDMI or is it Thunderbolt connected?

[@roodegar]

Thunderbolt or HDMI both work for the display. MIDI data runs through a separate USB-C cable.

[@cjcurcio]

Amazing ! I wish I could afford it!