The BEST Sayodevice Settings for Geometry Dash (O3C Set-up Guide)

[@Hyperbola]

FAQ (will update) Q: Why can't my sayodevice calibrate below a certain number? A: As said in the video, this doesn't matter because: 1. The new firmware interprets the raw data differently; 2. you're not supposed to calibrate to a specific number as calibration is to determine where the bottom of the switch is so everything else works. (I said this in the video, btw) Q: I'm experiencing double clicks, and I don't know why; what do I do? A: As said in the video, this is either because rt trigger or release is too low for your switch. To fix this, get a new switch that can handle these values, or adjust rt trigger and/or rt release up by 0.05mm until you get a consistent result.

[@moosoose4661]

What are your thoughts on geon raptor switches?? (If you've ever heard of them lol)

[@melongl5697]

how else can i stop double clicking? i changed rt settings all over the place and changed out switches but still getting double clicks when i hit the edge of the key too lightly

[@lordadz1615]

Why would you recommend buying switches when the sayo device comes with preset keys. I don't get it

[@DrippungusReal]

@@lordadz1615 because the default ones are shit

[@DrippungusReal]

doggie uses your settings

[@alzasonki]

oh my god thank you so much for making a guide with actual valuable information this is perfect ive been searching for one of these for so long. amazing

[@fredz4640]

BRO I GOT THIS ISSUES FOR LIKE ALMOST A YEAR BRO U SAVED MY LIFE WATAFAK THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOU

[@MrBeneke]

Changed to these settings and got 69% on BoJ in like 10 mins, apparantly my settings have been screwed the whole time. Thanks a ton bro

[@necrolord5799]

someone in the gd community who actually knows what they're talking about 😭thanks bro

[@anjuscuccos]

i watched the whole video and i don't even have a sayodevice 😭😭

[@DAST_0]

😀👍

[@S0l4rythGD]

I’m only watching these in case I get one

[@JayceSlays]

Am watching this bc am getting one but am checking if is good or not so if I cancel it

[@UniverseNarwhal]

Relatable…

[@MonkeManVr_YT]

same bro 😭🙏

[@eliascastillo5693]

Thank you 😭 This video answered every question I had about how to set up the sayodevice

[@nekoplayz1501]

Very useful tutorial, and thanks for the gateron switch recommendation, I didn't know which ones to get beforehand

[@gogilbert1402]

tysm, I did just the janky calibration and got stuck with keys that jittered. This is 10x better. Also found out my debounce was bad and my polling wasn't set correctly. You are a hero

[@diamondking169]

I used my sayodevice for about a week and was extremely dissapointed that it performed much worse than my mouse. Wow Im stupid, after fixing literally every setting this thing is crazy, I think I will definetly have a chance at beating Bloodlust with it

[@judojim]

ill come back to this video when i buy a sayo device

[@Jomav0120]

thank god you make a video like this my settings were so wack and i was regretting buying a sayodevice lmaoo

[@Quennium]

You're one of my favourite players because you have an understanding of what you're doing.

[@TheOrangeeeeeee]

amazing video used twice acutally really hope this gains traction for beginners

[@-Delu]

It took 1-2 hours to get adjusted but, after that it took only ≈5 minutes to get 25-94 on slaughterhouse! Yuppie!

[@_ssoh_2651]

This is the only guide I will trust

[@Omega_XK]

OMG Finally someone who KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING!! Great Video.

[@xNoob22]

thanks bro i was about to sell my sayo because i didnt have ship control and now everything working good

[@Xenon_001]

Think you could make a follow up to this (Or just make it a separate dedicated video) with a windows optimization guide? Your last optimization guide to make the game less laggy was over 4 years ago, and that was mainly for a good monitor and mouse/keyboard choice really. Tons of things have changed since then, hardware and peripherals have advanced significantly, and 2.2 is almost a year old.

[@Verso3008]

i don't understand, the good settings for gd with the rapid trigger are those at 5:46 ? cause it's so uncomfortable idk why

[@svnark]

is it normal for wave spam to feel extremely hard and ship to be very heavy at first? im thinking its just a difference i must get used to but idk

[@Hyperbola]

Yeah, it's just that you get way less delay when you release vs on mouse or other keyboards

[@svnark]

@@Hyperbola bet, thank you

[@rozagmd]

Thanks for ur guide!)

[@Ryz3nGD274]

I just got my SayoDevice and I watched this and I'm having a problem where I will press a key and it will work but say there is an orb in the air that I had to get to by jumping, I would jump, and without releasing it would press the orb. But after it hits the orb, it doesn't hit anymore. Do you know how to fix that? Edit: I went back into GD and I noticed on my click counter, that when I press once, it's clicking twice. Hope that helps. Final edit (for anyone having the same problem): So I fixed the problem by going into the menu, Device, factory recovery. What a factory recovery does, is it completely resets your devices settings. After you factory recover it, get your settings back to how they were, and that should fix the problem.

[@Ewen79]

Do the heavy gamemodes ever become normal again? Every time i try straight fly or wave spam, it goes towards the ground, so I cant spam anymore. Will it ever fix itself with time ?

[@MrZac-qd4yt]

ITS THE GUY FROM SILENT CLUBSTEP

[@ImM4x5]

In my opinion the wooting uwu is worth it, it is certainly much more expensive, but in terms of materials and especially rapid triggers it is another world.

[@Hyperbola]

Good to know

[@Limes_VR]

Thx hyperbole mome arrived in the mail today and I couldn't get it this helped a lot thanky you so much

[@Quennium]

After applying the settings, when going into keystrokes in the sayodevice itself, it has different settings. Which ones are actually used?

[@Hyperbola]

Did you save the changes?

[@Quennium]

@@Hyperbola yes I'm pretty sure

[@Quennium]

​@@Hyperbola yo?

[@quintennial.]

great video -- few questions tho 1. the sayodevice already comes with a pretty long usbA-usbC cord, does that one work well enough or do i really need to get another one 2. what advantage(s) do gateron orange dual rails offer other than stability (because that doesn't seem too important,) and are they louder than whatever pink things come preinstalled on the sayodevice

[@Hyperbola]

1. You're not obligated to get a new cord if yours works well. 2. Other than stability, not much else. They have the same bottom out and polarity as white switches. They are 100% better than the pink switches, which I don't think work well with rapid trigger from what I've found.

[@quintennial.]

@@Hyperbola oki thank you!

[@wb-1343]

bad stability can break rapid trigger

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

Questions I have: 1. What are the new switches for ( specifically the orange dual rail ks20 u) and how do I calibrate that 2. Is this calibration better than the one built in the sayodevice. Also for the website calibration do I just press it hard or what. My final question is that how do I replace my keys for the new switches. And the correct settings for it thanks ❤

[@murderGD]

why does my sayo double click with gaterons and doesn't with stock pink ones?

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

you need to increase the rt trigger from 0.2 to 0.3

[@odeee_1]

Any chance u could share your sayo device settings?

[@alexplaysgd]

wait until u hear i use 1.50+ mm rt release

[@wb-1343]

thats barely better than no rt

[@DaudasVlr]

How much rawdata Jade has?

[@Hyperbola]

lower than usual due to the bottom being higher up. idk off the top of my head

[@rishidookhan8803]

for some reason, when i try to calibrate it, it says that the device has not been found

[@cat_bomb_6225]

can someone help me i set my sayodevice to keyboard and up arrow but it doesnt register in game?

[@cat_bomb_6225]

@@Mxnsterx doesnt have to do with keybinds, so far only was able to make it work for a little while after restarting, but it doesnt last.

[@Asb_gmd]

I need your help, ive tried everything to reduce my input lag, i changed the settings, ive tried different mods in gd to help with performance, ive changed the cord but I keep getting a lot of input delay in my sayodevice(ive checked with "device test" in the website), and I cant play very well with that constant delay, and im not sure if it happens because my pc cant process 8000hz, i need you to tell me.

[@IqSteve]

Do you have V-sync enabled? vsync causes input delay

[@Asb_gmd]

@@IqSteve I dont

[@crimsonplanett]

good tutorial!!! but i got extremely unlucky and got the pink switches, prolly gonna get the gateron ks-20s soon

[@Hyperbola]

I'd rather get the orange dual rails over normal ks20s, personally.

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

@@Hyperbolahelp please 😭 🙏

[@clutcharon]

Tysm!!!❤

[@Luigimann8]

Tysm❤ you answered all my questions again tysm

[@HyperComet369]

Has anybody had the problem where their sayodevice clicks on release? My other 2 buttons are not set to jump so idk what's causing the issue.

[@boakowicz4088]

wait it's the silent clubstep guy

[@Leo-cy2xd]

I caliibrated everything but when i go on Gd the no clicks will register into the game but it’s clicking

[@Hyperbola]

What are your keybinds?

[@Leo-cy2xd]

@@Hyperbola I didnt do the link part hold on if i have any issues ill let you know but its probably thta

[@stinkballglorgle]

does a usb 3.0 have a noticable difference over a usb 2.0?

[@odeee_1]

What settings do u use for sayo? Is it not recommended on rapid trigger to not put rt trigger and rt release over 0,4 higher?

[@PanmasterLily]

your brave background is an eosd reference.

[@Hyperbola]

I just like the aestetic of a lunar eclipse/blood moon lol. It's also my gd and desktop wallpaper

[@Ascende4d]

Does the cord really matter?

[@saamajama]

Is there a spot to change the keybjnds of the buttons, and which buttona do you use?

[@snowster_II]

is there a way to have it register clicking two keys at the same time as two clicks update: fixed it! just had to set one of the buttons to up arrow instead

[@blightgmd]

I bought Orange KS20u switches that weren't dual rail. I couldnt find a seller with good reviews selling the dual rail ones in a low quantity and I didnt wanna buy 70 switches ofc. Is the non dual rail one still okay, is it better than the pink switches my sayodevice came with?

[@wo_ck]

do you still recommend keyboard mode over default mode? Since seels55 has his set to default mode because he thinks it feels better

[@crow_lurker]

I need help please😭🙏 i cant find any devices on the add device do you know why??

[@OdieTheGreat]

hyperbola i don't have a sayo but i still have some questions i think you might be able to help me with 1. what actuation would you recommend for gd on keyboards that can adjust it (ex: wooting, apex pro, huntsman v3) 2. does an 8000hz polling rate device really have that much of an advantage compared to a 1000hz one on gd?

[@agsechogd6406]

8000hz does make a pretty small difference in responsiveness, i have a k70 and can notice the difference right away.

[@OdieTheGreat]

@@agsechogd6406 damn :/

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

Do I just need the sayodevice or do i need more

[@Hausty1]

alr tried with old firmware and it was a great config, it rlly depended on calibration, not too much in config, still I didnt ment to update firmware a couple of weeks ago and my settings messed up and tried recovering or creating new settings but failure. I swtiched to keyboard for a while and got used to it, now im basically using ur settings now and by now i dont have any problem, might test calibration one again till i get the adecuate number. By now, thank you very much Hyperbola

[@wb-1343]

what do you mean "adecuate number"? just press the key all the way down

[@Hausty1]

@@wb-1343 it depends in each sayo I guess but calibration is key cause if u press all the way down, sayo sensibility will be low. Try to experiment high and low calibrations to see how it works. You will notice in ship that if you have low calibration you will constantly go up trying to straight fly, and if u press all the way down (meaning in high calibration) while tryna straight fly u will notice ur ship goes down

[@wb-1343]

@@Hausty1 watch the video

[@MrFroggyGD]

Dos the sayodevice depend on your keyboard, since it's using the spacebar?

[@Hyperbola]

You can set keybinds to the buttons of your Sayodevice, but this doesn't mean your keyboard has anything to do with it. Think of the Sayodevice as a separate keyboard with only 3 buttons

[@MrFroggyGD]

@@Hyperbola Cool! Thanks for the info! :)

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

I’m confused on the calibration part with like the depth of the keys and stuff 😢

[@mitschnel607]

are you recording on a plane?

[@EinoPlayer-sq4ch]

I have a couple of questions 1. are the setting you showed in the video good for the switches that come stock when you get the sayodevice so both of the rts to 0.2 2. are you ever gonna make a updated version on the hardware and software video

[@Hyperbola]

1. Assuming your stock switches are hall effect switches (gateron whites or the black and red switch), yes. If you get double clicks, adjust it up by .05 and test results. 2. My knowledge is too expansive about this to fit it into one video, so I will likely make 3-4 separate videos concerning the topic (input methods, computer hardware, optimizing your windows computer, optimizing geometry dash)

[@EinoPlayer-sq4ch]

@@Hyperbola the switches i have are those pink switches that are hall effect that came in the sayodevice i havent changed the switches

[@Quennium]

Would you recommend sayodevice over a keyboard?

[@Hyperbola]

It depends on how you use a keyboard. If you play other games like fps, pvp, or typing, wait for the upcoming wooting kb. If it's just for geometry dash, yes.

[@Quennium]

@Hyperbola I was thinking about the wooting definitely. Too expensive, though :(.

[@OfferOne]

bro idk if its just me but ive started to feel some delay in the middle key and its the key that i usually play on idk if my sayodevice is just too old now but i feel some delay in the middle key but slightly less delay on the right key can someone pls help

[@wile-w8q]

Should i use these settings in the video if i have pink switches?

[@BtGram]

I would recommend getting better switches for lower settings

[@deadxn_1]

@@BtGram are they still decent tho

[@ancabaciu2662]

this isnt rlly gd related cuz its not a switch problem but my screen is flashing and overlapping everything, how do i fix this?

[@ToyGliderTrainContent]

Thanks

[@wile-w8q]

is there any way to factory reset the sayo device?

[@Rocketlamma_gd]

i cant get to the settings for some reason

[@DAST_0]

Ty 🤍

[@tnt_gaming21]

thank you bro i had no idea had to set up rapid trigger before and i didn’t even know about the debounce thing, my only question is, what is the advantage of using the jade switches you mentioned?

[@Hyperbola]

I'd say it's more of a trade off. More stem wobble for a lower bottom-out distance. If you like lower profile buttons, you'd probably like jade switches. If you don't care for the wobble or the extra math, then get ks20 U's

[@tnt_gaming21]

@@Hyperbola sorry what? i’m not super knowledgeable on keyboard switches lol. currently i’m using the stock sayo switches that it came with, are those fine? i don’t mind switching them out if there’s something that works better, i’m just wondering how they are in comparison to other ones

[@83C25uVEu]

@@tnt_gaming21 remove the keycaps if its some white switches then yea they re fine

[@tnt_gaming21]

@@83C25uVEu they’re pink

[@jamescantu1173]

so i just got the orange dual rail ks20 switches and when i put it in the sayo device its not working ands theres no tutorials on how to switch the switches in a sayo device?

[@jamescantu1173]

omg i found out why and i am so dumb i didnt get the magnetic hall switches

[@santaclaus4142]

im having the same issue, can you tell me how to install the orange switches

[@TRNL6x4x]

my sayodevice is responding only key 1 and the rest of the keys dosnt work (i got 4 keycap)

[@Ryze-Crispy]

will the settings also show on the device itself. Iam getting mine tomorrow

[@Hyperbola]

@Ryze-Crispy once you "save the changes" the settings should flash to your device

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

@@Hyperbolawhat do I need the cable and switches for and also if I need them how do I set them up

[@TurkFn.]

why does it not click when u press button

[@Hyperbola]

Are your keybinds set correctly?

[@TurkFn.]

lmao i fixed it

[@jcakck]

Good vid

[@stoop4017]

Okay so I have a question, I bought the wooting lekker 45 switches for my sayo. Would you say the magnetic orange dualrail switches are worth getting over my current ones?

[@Hyperbola]

Personally, not really. I'd only get them at this point if you find mild to unnoticable stem wobble annoying

[@pandemonium7456]

Hey very helpful I didn't even have rapid trigger on lol so now I do I know it's because the release is more responsive but ship feels so heavy like I know I will get used to it but does it ever not feel heavy?

[@Ewen79]

Did u ever get used to it ? I feel the same way

[@pandemonium7456]

@Ewen79 yes after about 2 weeks it feels light again :)

[@Ewen79]

@@pandemonium7456 Great to know! I was getting concerned when ship and wave spam were just diving towards the ground, but this is reassuring. Thank You!

[@pandemonium7456]

@Ewen79 no problem I was worried as well lol you just get more used to it over time intill you can't tell anymore but you have a skill bost :)

[@theresnotable3439]

When I updated the firmware, my sayodevice broken. The keys are pressing on their own, and the keys cannot calibrate below 700(My calibration was around 400 before the update). Any tips to fix this or getting the old firmware back?

[@moneverix]

read the pinned comment youre not supposed to calibrate to a specific value

[@Asb_gmd]

When I slightly touch the cord, it makes the device disconnected sound, and then gd lags a lot, does that mean that I need to get a different cord?

[@Hyperbola]

I'd recommend that if it prevents you from playing.

[@mason3802]

does the key calibration matter using the nob it wont let me go below 700 but it used to

[@Hyperbola]

The way the sayodevice interprets raw data has changed. As said in the video, you shouldn't be aiming for a certain number when calibrating anyway.

[@mason3802]

got it, btw when i calibrated it on the website it said 3.95 instead of 3.5 even tho i have a gateron jade

[@Hyperbola]

This is because despite being 3.5mm deep, the sayodevice always assumes a switch is 4mm deep, no matter what. You may have to do some extra math to make sure your specs don't cause any double click issues.

[@Innerste_]

Is there really that big a difference between a Sayo and a very good mouse? I currently use a G502 X and I really like it and I doubt there's a significant difference between the two but I really don't know.

[@helbeham1133]

how do u reset everything because my sayo isnt working properly anymore

[@Hyperbola]

I believe under the device test tab, there's a factory reset option. Not at home rn, so I can't check.

[@odeee_1]

Should i order the lekker v2 switches for my sayo? I currently have pink switches

[@Hyperbola]

I don't have experience with lekker v2, but they should be better than pinks and have less wobble than jades. I'd definitely reccomend them over pinks.

[@odeee_1]

@@Hyperbola i went with the orange ks20u switches

[@odeee_1]

@@Hyperbola is it completely safe disconnecting the usb c from the sayo if i change game?

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

@@Hyperbola why do i need new switches

[@LucyBebee]

i'm experiencing frequent double clicks (1 every 15 inputs usually) on one key, the rest are fine. do you know how to fix this?

[@wb-1343]

does holding your button all the way down then tilting it cause it to release?

[@LucyBebee]

@@wb-1343 yes, not every time but it does happen sometimes

[@wb-1343]

@@LucyBebee that would be the issue, there was a video somewhere where someone used some kind of tape to stop it from wobbling but you should probably just buy some of the switches mentioned in the video, you can get 10 gateron ks-20u for about 12 usd

[@LucyBebee]

@@wb-1343 thank you for your help

[@wisdumbhaswon1501]

I cant connect mine at all on the website, im hitting connect and nothing is happening, what should i do

[@Hyperbola]

Make sure the device is connected and maybe allow the site to show pop ups (it opens a browser notification for me with the stock cord)

[@user-lv9cv1hr4m]

​@@HyperbolaTysm 😭

[@Asb_gmd]

Whats the best position to not get hand pain?

[@LucyBebee]

keep your arm rested and do not tense your wrist while playing

[@hypedroii306]

do the switches make a difference worth buying? ive been using the stock ones for awhile. if so could you give a link to the ones you have? thankyou

[@Hyperbola]

If you don't have the black and red or gateron white stock switches, getting gateron orange dual rail magnetic switches is most definitely an upgrade. You can get them on Aliexpress in different quantities for relatively cheap.

[@냉동딸기]

I’m using the Wooting 60HE with rapid trigger, but for me I actually find that binding the key to L Mouse instead of Up Arrow actually decreases the input delay a tiny bit. I accidentally discovered it and I don’t know why it’s the case; If anything it should have more delay when using Mouse clicks, right?

[@Hyperbola]

Unfortunately, have no idea about how wootility works. Can't really answer that atm

[@swagboss]

whats rapid trigger

[@Hyperbola]

Rapid trigger allows the switch to actuate or release after traveling a certain distance, regardless of where the switch is in its range. In short, it allows a dynamic actuation point.

[@GhostXan]

my sayo came with outemu pink switches and i want to buy one of the gateron swtiches that you sayed, which of the three would you tell is te best to buy? (jade, orange or white)

[@Hyperbola]

Orange is what I prefer personally. You can get jades as well if you like the lower bottom out, but I've had issues with them if I spam a lot with them.

[@GhostXan]

@@Hyperbola okok, so is gateron orange or gateron jade orange? idk much about switches, sorry lol and thank you very much!

[@GhostXan]

@@Hyperbola also, i'm not sure if what i'm searching is correct, can i send you via discord or somewhere the link of aliexpress that i found? just to be sure

[@Hyperbola]

The switch model is called KS20 U. The stem is orange and the housing is translucent grey. You can send the link if you'd like to "hyperbola."

[@lindo_]

TYSM

[@ProbablyBlake42]

yo thank you bro , itried to do doggies settings but that messed me the fvck up , thanks again

[@KrNatiButDead]

what even are doggies settings

[@ProbablyBlake42]

@@KrNatiButDead he showed them on one his grief's stream so I copied them

[@KrNatiButDead]

@@ProbablyBlake42 do you remember which stream it was

[@ProbablyBlake42]

@@KrNatiButDead nah

[@mason3802]

@@ProbablyBlake42 dont use doggies settings his rapid trigger settings dont matter since hes using cbf for grief the 8000hz polling rate makes it op

[@MortallyChallengedd]

Hey, if im using the pink switches that come with the sayodevice then should I use 0.2 for RT trigger and RT release? i dont want to mess up my settings

[@Hyperbola]

I'm not sure, but if there's double clicking, adjust rt trigger and release by + 0.05mm until it stops

[@sss_gelo]

does the usb c 3.1 and 3.2 cable work/work better/support it?

[@Hyperbola]

@sss_gelo yes, but the cable that comes with it should be one. This is just in case you need a new cord if the original breaks somehow

[@riift3294]

following this video rendered my sayo almost unusable due to constant releasing/void clicking which wasnt remedied by the solutions you provided to others, not sure if there are some niche caveats you failed to mention or if my shit is just broken

[@Hyperbola]

Did you try raising the value on rt trigger and release?

[@riift3294]

@@Hyperbola yes, by 0.05 as you stated on another comment, i did this like 30 times and there was still some issue present

[@Hyperbola]

What switches do you have currently?

[@riift3294]

@@Hyperbola the whites that come with some sayos

[@riift3294]

@@Hyperbola The stock whites that came with my sayo

[@anhkhoidu]

calibration pls

[@wb-1343]

watch the video

[@PatricioLopez-j1n]

What calibration number do you recommend? 500,600

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

Make it the max calibeation is just where your clicks are registered

[@PatricioLopez-j1n]

@@WhiteHivePenguin sorry i speak spanish Could you explain it to me better?

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

@@PatricioLopez-j1n la calibración siempre es máxima, la calibración es justo donde se registran sus clics,

[@PatricioLopez-j1n]

@@WhiteHivePenguin But in the sayodevice hardware there is a section called calibration, where a number that increases depending on how deep the pressure will be where the click is registered, that recommended number I want to know

[@WhiteHivePenguin]

@@PatricioLopez-j1n just tap is as hard as u can

[@nred4926]

lmaoo my sayodevice just arrived an hour ago, so this popping in my recommendeds is soo lucky lol

[@freptical]

my sayodevice came with wooting magnetic red switches (???), is that good?

[@Hyperbola]

Wooting doesn't make red switches. The red and grey stocks are said to be the worst, but you can likely play with then just fine. If you have red and black ones, they're likely almost exactly as good as the ones listed, except for not having lower bottom out or better stability

[@placeholder-t7j]

But what if i dont have a sayodevice o3c geometry dash

[@Hyperbola]

You can buy one on Aliexpress for $15-30 USD

[@placeholder-t7j]

@@Hyperbolaintesting Thanks

[@PlanoCat]

Hyperbola l am looking into getting a sayodevice. Is it wired or is it wireless

[@83C25uVEu]

it has bluetooth ☺

[@Hyperbola]

Wired (with high speed usb c male to usb a 3.0 male)

[@1flyr]

fye tutorial

[@crimsonplanett]

real