The BEST Siege Defenses in Summoners War - May 2021 meta

[@ProjeckDestiny]

No wonder so many people hate doing siege. Who wants to fight the same defenses over and over.

[@sethreburiano108]

It depends on your siege rank really.. i enjoy g1 siege

[@qaws1106]

Huge variance within g1 siege. Higher g1 siege is the same defenses over and over. Lower g1 siege is whatever 3 mons slapped together.

[@carlospatrick7780]

Low g1 is fun you might find some meta def here and there but you can also see some funny defenses and have fun with your offense team uwu.

[@WilhelminaRa]

my guild does a limbo between c2 and g1 , wiping everything in c2 and sometimes c3, having a hard time in g1 , though we win, but that depends if we are getting other f2p guilds like we are or the heavy whale guilds. The whales wipe you out in the first 4 hours, and you can just try to fight back, but never have a chance to push them far enough, even if you push hard at first, 2 hours later and all your bases are turning red or yellow ...:(. I guess one of the big issues is the vio rune sets, that are outrageously proccing too much, seeing a Monster getting 6turns and wiping your team, even though you were on the edge of winning.... thats not fun, and I get the impression, that the more money was involved the higher goes the favor to those teams.

[@spig3547]

@@qaws1106 Came to say this, my guild is only just in G1 and the defences are literally whatever they think works.

[@alphaenderman6793]

Yoo bagel thanks for giving us siege mains a shout out! Despite siege being a place with not a lot of variety, it still allows us non-whales to flourish if we try hard enough. Tourneys a really exciting event for a lot of us, as we really get to show how we do despite some of us hating rta (like me). Really excited for the next few rounds! GO SWAG :D

[@azazel8041]

Hey I started this game because I saw the 7 year event, watched some videos and pulled Lushen, Skogul, sabrina, lumirecia, and Mellia (along with various good nat 3's). Just wanted to say i love your videos and they've been helping me as a beginner! :)

[@mrchill4087]

Good stuff dude!

[@chillx656]

None of those will be useful if you have crap runes so farm runes!

[@MrSharkman19]

As the leader of iCritYou, it's so exciting to see my profile pic in a bagel video

[@shanekennard537]

23:24 - Bagel's brain is fried.

[@Vyxtz]

Don't apologize, each siege seasons we love your 2 hours videos Bagel

[@metaverseanglerjt4996]

Was waiting for this video. Thanks for the double upload!

[@HasanPikerIsADouche]

And the award for best username goes to...QueefBandit

[@christopherfiore960]

Uhhmm. Car_Ramrod (.)

[@عزوزالطفيل-ت6ز]

Dtryrte

[@SerekAkaSeras]

I like how bagel at 17:10 is talking about how good is kinki, and the players name that defense belongs means "I Like Fat asses" in Polish :D

[@PacificEgg]

2 hours of fire snipers and Molly?

[@WilhelminaRa]

It would help the game if c2us would prevent the same teamcombinations on one tower. Lke that most Monster can only be one or two times on the tower and only if they are not the same team. I dont have the time nor are I in the mood to build the same things multiple times, that is utterly stupid tedious madness, especially when people whale into this shit

[@beagc2859]

U meant "carzano"?

[@Necro.666]

Yes it is 2 hrs of fire snipers and Molly. bagel upload crap

[@fabriciobarbosa5246]

Bro. I was honestly looking foward to this video

[@richardcollcott]

This is a useful video - many thanks. How about a follow up on what teams to use to beat these defences (with roughly the same rune quality)

[@LauLessPariah]

Jewbagel is one of summoners war's most biggest figure heads and it makes com2us so angry

[@jaspersmith1000]

love the acid techers in the backround

[@christopherfiore960]

An entire 1:00:22. You know they're meta when it's an hour of introspection until Bagel sees a D that gets absolutely Lushen'd. 😄

[@hotsause43]

They should change it so that they can’t stack bases with the same defenses. So boring fighting the same thing over and over

[@oligophrenie5571]

yeah you're right but i can already hear the highlevels cry because of their 50 built but useless Carcano

[@elasmobranch5436]

Remember when Com2us made public announcements and apologized profusely when the whales complained about kaki? Imagine what happens when they tell the whales that they built 15 skoguls for no reason. The whales are why this game still exists, so they will be who is catered to.

[@cherriagana]

Tesa lead in Savannah comps are mainly to counter Leo offences

[@AsianSwag97]

Com2us could do something about siege since they are putting seasonal rewards there.. Like maybe rotate leader skills weekly only in siege? because of leader skills some units are spammed. So if we rotate skills like giving carcano att leader skill in some rotation?

[@konradmodryt9487]

And this nick in polish language LubieGrubeDupy- iLikeFatAss

[@internetdogisbotheredbymyg1424]

1. Just put 2 or more elements 2. Striper 3. Put armor break that can land on any unit like carcano or aoe so no unit that will be out of your reach. Or 1. ,3. + any luck/non luck unit that make unit survive.

[@massinsanitynetwork5558]

I was waiting on this video, thanks bagel 😀

[@michaelnewell1344]

be nice if they would just limit the use of a specific monster in siege to X, and force guilds to have a multitude of Ds....make it a lot more fun for sure.

[@Lummer16]

What would the runes look like on the Seara and Twins team? I have Seara, Martina and Shaina. Would be cool to replicate that team just to try it out.

[@dantebaked2115]

Trust me the Martina shaina defense is sacred I looked up runes for them and you can’t find them no matter how hard you search. But when it comes to advice everyone comes out the wood works to say they have to be “tanky and have speed” but no one exposes the actual set they have on the twins. It’s funny cause everyone higher up siege is so secretive/stingy in terms of runes/turn orders which I understand it’s supposed to be competitive but when you want to get into the game and actually learn so you can know right from wrong it’s frustrating cause the good players tend to be VERY vague when explaining.

[@lalalafran]

Just got Armana, what defense can i build with him? I just throw Jagger illiana armana for testing. But any sugestion?

[@ola222ify]

So you have been talking a lot about how we need to build defenses with all different elements (except some ld defenses), but then way does Savannah, Clara, and Carcano work? (or Khmun, Tesaroin, other fire units).

[@Art.from.autumn]

HELLO BAGEL

[@Elypsen]

hey kinki in siege should be easier to deal with since you can plan ahead how to kill him (unlike rta where you don't know yet if he is in your opponent draft) , it's bombable , you could do kaki or any other onimusha really :D (i'm thinking suiki to bring a sin with him and avoid a random carcano oneshot :D)

[@ItsJustFisher]

S W A G for the win!

[@alphaenderman6793]

Yessirrrr!!!

[@meko6100]

have you guys seen an add in the middle of the video which tells you to buy the auto farmin24.7 thing

[@Je-s-s-e_J-a-m-e-s]

2:30 lmao i thought it was octocina also

[@xXFireCowXx]

When will next balance patch be

[@danielginn516]

Love these videos

[@stevetai9334]

30 minutes into the video before I realize this is a 2 hour video.. TL:DR

[@stavroschloros-samuelian4487]

If you pay close attention you'll notice that people use Carcano a lot.

[@PacificEgg]

Rip I miss FoxySW 1v3 content

[@nareshn9490]

What happened to him

[@pewpewpiwpiw501]

rip :(

[@michaelsartstudio]

2 hour vid! GZ

[@lexjordan9910]

I listened man. But I almost fell asleep on the last 10 mins because it was all: Tesarion Bastet Odin Praha Savana Moore Carcano Galleon Khmun Clara Kinki Kaki Eshir Iris Vigor Triana

[@fatbullfatsos2217]

You forgot Antares ❤️

[@lexjordan9910]

@@fatbullfatsos2217 oh yeah! Lots of Antares as well lmao

[@mathulu8202]

Fire snipers passive def breaks the enemy with the lowest HP ratio. They buffed him a couple patches ago.

[@kanga352]

shouldve said: ive seen some people who enjoy fuuking at 22:25

[@Je-s-s-e_J-a-m-e-s]

i missed one prediction rip exile mercs

[@isaacgutierrez40]

Same

[@shadow67492]

I don't have molly but my one of my team's is fire sniper, savanna, and triana

[@ricowilliamson6299]

23:28 bagel loses his mind has a brain melt 48:17 More bagel fried brains

[@Lp0tr33]

anyone have an opinion on what's a better defense between carcano, triana and (vigor vs eshir)?

[@damionboydjr]

Ahh yes, obvious predictions. Good luck with picks though guys!

[@lexjordan9910]

1:18:02 Invisible Bottle ASMR

[@christopherfiore960]

She hugged her freaking cat!!! Damnit I want one!

[@aeryellae5837]

I have one...and I'd never noticed that before. It was so cute

[@-_E-_]

siege is fun, up until the bases become repetetive

[@christopherfiore960]

Yay! Thank you Bagel, I totally give my guild a heads up in Siege. Aaaand, they don't give a phugk. 😐

[@WilhelminaRa]

I dont even care for this, just tipped wild and got 4/8 dont know any of those high level guilds, since I dont care for the whales, it angers me, that I cant do siege during those tournaments and miss out crystals and guild points because of this bullshit. And of course my prediction for the semi finals and finals wil be for those guilds who are joining on later, cant miss with those to much ... the rewards ar more or lesse meeh

[@triratna1397]

Ch.108 Interguild chat for eu server siege tournament. Doubt number one /o/ Go doubt

[@lexjordan9910]

I think the Tesarion Odin Bastet is kinda okay. Because Triana Helps in stopping Odin from taking out something while wasting the knowledge. But Tesa might Oblivion Triana at some point. Also, Bastet and Odin awakens with Resistance. They are the ones who benefit from those Res innate runes. Plus Tesarion Res leader. However, we all know Res Acc are fake stats so, take all these with a grain of salt.

[@Grubenz]

17:12 Bruh this guys name is literally "ILikeFatAsses" in polish lol

[@j.crandom2077]

I only use 4stars it makes the game interesting

[@FrozenAngel4173]

Does anyone see any kinki defenses other than carcano Triana

[@enjoynime7102]

I think asia server is stronger and hell defense, i dont know why the are a lot of put siege defense in tournament like g1 in asia or maybe c3, if any tournament siege for all server, i think the stroger guild asia server like wik wik and goat maybe they will get super easy win or maybe they get 20k -2/3k siege point for wining asia server every match

[@Yorovoh]

17:25 Nickname of this dude means "I Like fat asses". Have a nice day.

[@Dumbastic]

Unfortunately, Ken AI is garbage and does whatever he wants :D Also you should check your Jeogun's AI, his scroll skill doesn't care about element advantage, he will just put water monster in his scroll when he feels like (no def break on water monster, wind monster on the field)

[@lexjordan9910]

I value my 3 star 4 star monsters more. And not rune up (most) my Shineys. My shineys are runed up in RTA.

[@TheHigherFury]

10min in: So i need 10 carcanos got it. Or LD4s and 5s... I haven't seen LD lightning since HoHs in 2020 I mean i can make like 3 of these teams at least. If I had 7 more Carcanos I could maybe make several more

[@SourceoftheOoze]

TL:DR? Bagel spends 2 hrs talking about how he keeps saying "i know i'm saying the same thing over and over again" referring to seeing the same guild siege defenses over and over again. It's worth it, though.

[@displacedicon7643]

Banging head against a brick wall? Why did they make that his passive. Lmao never noticed until watching this.

[@hakersupatytsupra9556]

I got 4/4

[@ProBierS]

most of these super tanky defs can easily be defeaded by rina and belial. it just takes a few minutes :D

[@vtesmax]

Someday Com2us will learn why the "e-sport" will always fail; it's their responsibility to provide a fair competitive environment. The top 4 getting a pass, same broken meta defenses over and over, relying too much on RNG to create the illusion of "skill". These things are so incredibly toxic and that's why no one wants to play Lost Centuria.

[@gbob7719]

Jean retish perna OP

[@Akro.diecast]

Hi bagelmom good night froms spain!!

[@anderszimmerman2428]

so I'm noticing a trend. A lot of 4* units are fantastic. That's a good thing! Right? gives opportunities for players that dont have a shit ton of nat 5s. Until you realize that COM2US DOESNT GIVE US THE MEANS TO SKILL THEM UP! after events and toa hell we will get up to 8 devilmon a month. Do they actually expect us to devilmon 4*? fuck no, they are way too limited. This may be an outlier, but I find it relevant. I still havent fully skilled up my khumun after 3 years of consistent play. Wait wait wait, here's the kicker... I fed him all 5 water anubis from the 2016 hall of heroes. Still not fully skilled. What does that say about this shit game? Even if they want to be greedy and not implement 4* devilmon, let us fuse at least one member of each family. It took me about 500 crystals of farming and double xp to make 3 akias the other day, so it's still a huge investment for players, it's not like it would be op. It's just making the game actually rewarding after hours of thankless grinding.

[@GekoHayate]

do you clear a stage of hoh then 25 almighty summoning pieces to double your hoh mons? I agree though that each 4* family should have a fuseable member.

[@bariscanuzunoglu6230]

wtf 2 hour Video?????

[@lovesthebass]

This is why high level pvp in SW is lame af. Nothing but the same defenses. It was so annoying. It wasn't even nearly as bad back in the day (just guild wars, no siege yet) as it is now. I loved low G1 seige. I fought more random defenses. I put up more random defenses myself despite having plenty of options for meta defenses. It was more fun both ways. Nobody wants to fight the same shit over and over and over, especially at the mercy of SW rng.

[@Neelo194]

23:15 brain meltdown

[@Zelone87]

Meta: exists People: complaining about no change

[@briberrybush2558]

invisible beverage should be sold

[@lexjordan9910]

Kaar-ka-now

[@daniel2184]

Respect++ for Ocitocina cause they're mostly f2p

[@kivuliseah8079]

Leumas shaking lmao

[@kejammin]

It's all part of com2us scheme to draw the attention of players. Spend spend Farm Farm build build same teams

[@Applepie-tp2gy]

bagel would if I told you I have a tian lang i pulled a few months ago sitting as a 5 star with no runes in storage fully skilled up on my main account and haven't used him cause pvp is hard:(

[@foddde]

Just seeing the defenses, I feel like global are much weaker than eu guilds

[@xnaruland12]

Ruinning siege battles with this videos 💤

[@derekklein7157]

As a European it was always hard for me to understand Global server. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However, now I finally understand it. Global is just so fucking free

[@philippfiebig2291]

Lets enjoy that so called Esports!

[@frenchkaky]

I love Bagel (I do) but the siege videos are so boring. Always the same defenses, over and over. Com2us, please, wake up and change that sh*t.

[@enoemos12321]

Every Triana in top level siege is crit damage. There's no maybe

[@renosentosa1769]

Iphone111111111111111111

[@johnrankin4521]

Soo u just trolled us and never hit?...

[@dimektoshsedi3258]

First

[@drzzydre8319]

Com2us should buff faries in the next balance patch

[@qwerty600]

The 2a wasnt enough??

[@drzzydre8319]

@@qwerty600 nop

[@micolashmensis2476]

Firrrrrrst