The best smart panels from Tuya

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I'm checking out two smart panels by Tuya. Both run Linux systems, fit inside the wall switch cavity and offer a range of automation options
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Table of Contents:
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Smart Panels from Tuya
01:30 - Tuya? Wait what?
02:40 - Smart Panel L
05:00 - Smart Panel S
07-00 - Alexa in panels
08:20 - Menus and options
10:00 - Smart Panel from Tuya and Zigbee Contact sensor
11:00 - Smart Panel from Tuya and wireless doorbell
12:40 - Smart Panel from Tuya as intercom
13:10 - Smart Panel from Tuya and WiFi camera
12:06 - Smart Panel from Tuya and Zigbee Light Switch
15:35 - more about panels and conclusion
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#HASHTAGS

[@TheDjJaeeger]

Hmmm hope that someone Comes with a Custom Firmware for these two. Would be really cool and maybe one of the Coolest devices for the Homeassistant Local Voice Assistant.

[@PatrickBulteel]

If it's Android/Linux it won't be ESPHome that replaces this. Not sure if Nabu Casa would dedicate dev to building the "HA App" as a replacement for the Tuya interface/App.

[@TheDjJaeeger]

@@PatrickBulteel i think someone will definitly build an app to replace the Alexa function from the device for maybe google assistant or even better like i am hoping the homeassistant voice client. World be enough.

[@Year7982]

I live in singapore. My switches are all live wires. Can i use it without neutral wires?

[@TechySpeaking]

Looks like the L variant is made for North American electrical boxes (rectangular) and the S variant for European boxes (square).

[@ubeaut]

They look great but I don't want to rely on Tuya. What happens if Tuya change the way they do things or go bust, then what? I like to have all my devices under my control and no need for any internet connections. I do like the look of the hardware. It's a no from me until someone hacks the devices to be used locally.

[@notenoughtech]

I think you are underestimate the size of Tuya. They are bigger than Alexa and Google Home combined in terms of home automation. While there are aspects to consider (like cloud, etc) them going out of business isn't one of it. They also cater to businesses first. Which means rapid changes of how things are run, are also unlikely as they rely on businesses using their framework. If you want voice control, you are likely needing connection anyway. Plus as hub uses local protocols, outages arent affecting basic functionalities. Sure you won't be able to remotely change stuff, but your panel will work with lights just as intended.

[@ubeaut]

@@notenoughtech It's like when Tuya took away the ability to flash their hardware with Tasmota. We lost control then. It is a pity they did that as I won't buy any of their hardware now unless it has zigbee on it then I can use zigbee2mqtt. For users how don't care and it works then Tuya will work for them but I am not one of those people and I am sure there are others out there like me.

[@nigelsmith421]

Bigger than Chamberlain?

[@SOWA85]

@@notenoughtech their software is trash, but I guess you can't say that on sponsored video. Everyone in the community hates Tuya and reflashes their devices with ESPHome or Tasmota whenever possible. Local control is the future.

[@gr33n000]

So, will it integrate with Home Assistant? Could you install the App? What about a browser to view the HA ui?

[@notenoughtech]

I don't use HA, and the units are pre-release

[@eberger02]

You can already connect Alexa and Google home to any Panel with node Red (for example NS Panel Pro). Bit clunky but easily doable.

[@Year7982]

Hi.Can it be use without a neutral wire? My switches has only live wire.

[@notenoughtech]

No.. Youll need both

[@ianpierregomes8373]

Is it possible to change led colors with the bigger one? Do you know any wired video door bell that would be able to ring on the screen just like in the video?

[@notenoughtech]

@@ianpierregomes8373 yes you can adjust the LED colours on lights that support it. As for doorbells.. Any tuya doorbell will be compatible with this

[@ianpierregomes8373]

@@notenoughtech Thanks for the quick reply man!

[@MAMDAVEM]

Could be a nice way to have a keypad at the door for home alarm system.

[@oleozitu]

I have the smart panel L. It`s stuck on the boot screen (Hi. Wellcome to my world). I tryed to press de reset button, turn off and turn on the eletric source and nothing happens. Do you know how to solve it?

[@notenoughtech]

have you paired it before this or is it stuck on your 1st boot before you were able to set it up?

[@oleozitu]

@@notenoughtech hello. I've paired before.

[@notenoughtech]

Do you see it connected to the network or just hangs unresponsively?

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Mat.

[@notenoughtech]

No worries!

[@ArabianBytes]

Does the white panel support POE?

[@notenoughtech]

No i'm sorry.

[@ArabianBytes]

Thx 😊

[@kwakuasiedu4935]

Please how much distance does it cover?

[@notenoughtech]

As hub? That depends on your instalation, layout etc. Zigbee is a mesh network if you are thinking about the range only, you are not taking advantage of it

[@obijuan-]

I suspect I already know the answer to this question. Neither of these Zigbee radios are compatible with the Sonoff Zigbee devices that we have grown to love in the SNZB-xxP line up? Like the button switches, the new presence and motion sensors?

[@notenoughtech]

You'll be able to add ZigBee devices from other brands, the problems might be only when it comes to custom features or settings. For example, Sonoff PIR I covered yesterday, will work, but I'm not sure if you can set custom settings for the timeout.

[@sygad1]

Linux OS, let's see what the community does with that, hopefully Home Assistant app. Be interersted to see if CCTV camera feed is acceptable.

[@eberger02]

Just had to extend my iOT Tuya developer account for home assistant yet again. I will never forgive them for making me do this dance every 6 months. Edited to clarify: by iOT developer account I mean the iOT section in the developer account. The developer account itself always remains. It’s the project used by home assistant that gets shut down every 6 months.

[@JamesTenniswood]

Strongly agree

[@PankajkumaryadavPL]

So much hate for tuya... Although I love Home Assistant and run my smart home on it, I love tuya devices too... They are really good for the price... I have rarely had issues with tuya devices. Also they are a big brand, most smart devices are powered by tuya framework even if it doesnt work with their app (e.g., Eufy, Wipro).

[@notenoughtech]

I think a lot of hate comes from a historical standpoint. Back in the day when these devices were new and cloud was unreliable, everyone asked for a home server. These things are solved now but people are not aware that It's actually trouble-free use.

[@ianb1121]

Not keen on the panels running Android, not good for home security access

[@CalMUK91]

In Middlesbrough? 😂

[@notenoughtech]

Yup

[@SOWA85]

Lights attached to cloud... and then your network goes down and you have to search for candles in complete darkness. No thanks.

[@notenoughtech]

Not for the devices enabled for local control. Plus built in ZigBee hub keeps the ZigBee devices operational even when your local network isn't working any more.

[@JamesTenniswood]

Tuya? Yer no thanks