The Best Universal Buffer?? Bennett vs Mona vs Kazuha vs Furina Buff Comparisons!! Who’s The Best???

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#genshinimpact #furina #bennett #mona #kazuha #ganyu
4.2 Genshin Impact
A gameplay comparisons and damage showcases between C0 F2P Free To Play Build Buffs on Ganyu using Bennett vs Mona vs Kazuha vs Furina!!! Who do you think is the best universal buffing character between these four amazing characters???

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@tintedplot96
@tintedplot96 9 ай бұрын
Mona - lasts the shortest Bennet - Small circle and can’t buff hp scalers and dendro units, only buffs on field characters Kazuha - can’t buff anemo, geo, dendro Furina - Buffs everything
@lucasfreire8290
@lucasfreire8290 9 ай бұрын
Bennett can buff Dendro Atk scallers MainDPS, like Alhaitham and Tighnari 'tho
@tintedplot96
@tintedplot96 9 ай бұрын
@@lucasfreire8290 he can but it’s not recommended
@lucasfreire8290
@lucasfreire8290 9 ай бұрын
@@tintedplot96 Yes, is best to build a hyperbloom/quicken team, specially for an Alhaitham comps _but i.g., Tighnari, C2 Raiden (built as MainDPS to fill the low field time of Tighnari and to help on the energy generation), Nahida and Bennett is a really good combination, since Raiden's skill makes sure to take the Pyro aura from Bennett's skill real fast and Tighnari can easily be buffed on distance as long as you create Bennett's circle at some distance from the enemies Not the most recommendable, but viable still nonetheless
@babyboy5553
@babyboy5553 9 ай бұрын
@@lucasfreire8290 i dont rememeber seeing anyone recommending bennett on a dendro comp, nor have I seen someone using that team anyways
@lucasfreire8290
@lucasfreire8290 9 ай бұрын
@@babyboy5553 I'm saying this from personal experience, whenever I want to both get higher numbers from my Tighnari and don't want to waste my C2 Raiden by only using her EM build Bennett always help me more than my Kokomi, specially 'cause mine has 250% ER, so in this team I don't even have to use his Skill _but, again, as I also mentioned, quicken hyperbloom is better ofc
@areweevensomeoneoutthere
@areweevensomeoneoutthere 9 ай бұрын
By the way, Furina's team got one stack from the weapons passive due to charlotte.
@urrsoo
@urrsoo Ай бұрын
@@areweevensomeoneoutthere all the teams had charlotte bruh
@Force-Multiplier
@Force-Multiplier 9 ай бұрын
as a Kazuha main i'm a big fan of Kazuha+Bennet+Furina+insert unit yes Bennet can be used with Furina you just need low health on all your non Furina Bennet units and incredibly high ER and HP on Bennets Artifacts (C5 Bennet also heals 3 levels harder so he helps too for those who have them) you can also shift Bennet from Noblesse to a healing set to improve his synergy with the team quite a bit *this is by no means a claim that Bennet is as good for Furina as other healers like Jean Baizou YaoYao Kokomi Qiqi Barbara or Charlotte* but not everyone has or has built those units so Bennet can help in the meantime even for those who aren't willing to grind that badly just so the Bennet Kazuha and Furina can work together and just want to use someone as they build those units Bennet's team also requires you to quickswap from character to character while his heal is on field as for Mona i don't have her yet and since i can't guarantee myself one im trying to get the best possible rolls for Bennet so i can use Kazuha Bennet Furina and Faruzan (if i ever get her C6) also if you're running a Kazuha main DPS with Furina and you manage to get a decent ER and HP Noblesse for Bennet you can put VV on Faruzan and use Marechausse Hunter on Kazuha to further improve him as a main DPS
@jaketheman7402
@jaketheman7402 9 ай бұрын
I put in jean and Raiden with your team comp. Raiden was great for energy generation and Jean just needed one burst to get 225 fanfare. 😭😭I had to seperate Benny and kazuha😭. Now the team is furina jean Raiden and Benny(but if you have yelan use her).
@Force-Multiplier
@Force-Multiplier 9 ай бұрын
@@jaketheman7402 you're so lucky to have Jean man i only lose 50 to Qiqi Diluc or Kequing xd btw that's a wise choice i mostly remain with my plan because im planning to C6 Kazuha on his next rerun since i saved quite a lot in the last and go him to C4 and at C6 he becomes a pretty good main but with Raiden and Furina with Jean and Benny is and amazing team you're only losing an ideal 40% Elemental Damage Boost and still retaining the around 40% VV Shreed while gaining Furina's buff the only issue i could see there is that you're losing a bit on the grouping and overloads can happen but that only matters against mobs plus if you have Nahida you can still use Kazuha on some Dendro comps :)
@Hmm_okk_lol
@Hmm_okk_lol 9 ай бұрын
As a C2 Furina haver, Bennett is more than enough to gain max stacks. (Actually for first rotation I don't even need any healer to gain 400 fanfare points) but yeah, needs for other chamber if all my teammates are half HP..
@Force-Multiplier
@Force-Multiplier 9 ай бұрын
@@Hmm_okk_lol you have 3.5 times my Fanfare gain bro 😅 You're living the dream haha congrats on that
@JoJoLay.Kawaii
@JoJoLay.Kawaii 9 ай бұрын
mona is just like furina, except furina buffs team so it can last for long, but mona debuffs enemies so it's not really long.
@haze5016
@haze5016 9 ай бұрын
Furina's buff requires two people to function so it would be weird if she wasn't the best one
@camilomartinez5872
@camilomartinez5872 3 ай бұрын
Not only that, Furina's buff takes time to take effect properly.
@nobody-xh6ii
@nobody-xh6ii 2 ай бұрын
​@@camilomartinez5872 not really. Low hp + heal + burst heal with someone like baizhu. C2 baizhu is the easiest and hardest to kill thanks to this. Furina E makes Baizhu's c2 to occure, baizhu E > E > Burst. Healed to full party in like 5 seconds or so.
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 2 ай бұрын
​​@@nobody-xh6ii not everyone is pulling for a c2 baizhu better to pull other units
@neel5715
@neel5715 2 ай бұрын
@@nobody-xh6ii just being fully healed dosen't give immediate stacks it's a buff that goes on till the burst duration and takes time to be full without cons
@The-hamster2471
@The-hamster2471 2 ай бұрын
@@neel5715it does give immediate stacks though. Fanfare increases based on the percentage of hp that changes. Using someone like Jean instantly maxes it out when you do your rotations properly.
@kingdoom5022
@kingdoom5022 9 ай бұрын
Furina is the best , her buff to all characters regardless of element , her buff lasts the longest , she can apply hydro off field, at max stacks her biff is the strongest and she actually deals a lot of damage herself
@Y_o_r_u
@Y_o_r_u 9 ай бұрын
And almost 100% uptime i think
@larimilaralu-bp3fn
@larimilaralu-bp3fn 9 ай бұрын
Are you blind???
@aligazali2245
@aligazali2245 9 ай бұрын
The fact is her buff is the worst in the video, and Why buff needs stack need healer and still low damage 😅. For me she is just overrated
@KHksf
@KHksf 9 ай бұрын
Totally agreed, also you can improve that buff even more with C1 por C2. She is a monster in terms of meta
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
Furina has low hydro application tho and has to be ran with a healer mandatorily and Even then her buff is not better than the other buffs as shown in this video, if she was max stacks her buff woulda been just slightly higuer on par with the others (around 55K CA for Ganyu), not to mention that her 18 sec duration buff is deceiving since most of her burst you won't have max stacks, while Benny/kaz apply full buff from the beginning with no mechanic involved. Hey Furina is great mostly cause her off field dmg is great, but this time when it comes solely on the buff department, she took an L here, she is not perfect it's ok.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
Furina havers are salty about this one lmao, just take the L, she is better in other departments like amazing off field dmg and working on every team. She just took an L when it comes to buff, its ok she doesnt have to be perfect, what you want her to be better than everyone on everything? she isnt and that is ok.
@icyprince007
@icyprince007 8 ай бұрын
The fact that this video didn't demonstrate her full buff is something else
@PKLevel99
@PKLevel99 8 ай бұрын
Furina is The only one (besides mona) Who buff The whole team. So in the whole pictute, she is the Best
@Dann69420
@Dann69420 8 ай бұрын
Calm down mate, u lost your 50/50 or what? No one is salty here, mostly just sharing opinions and thoughts. She's not the best indeed, but her versatility what makes her great. At least that's what I agreed from every other comment.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 8 ай бұрын
@@Dann69420 I didnt even pull for her, I don't like her aesthetic. But those that did, good, she is great and opens up some comps. And I just threw some shade at the Furina havers cause they were very annoying saying she was the Best character in the game when her banner was up.
@lexxxie_52004
@lexxxie_52004 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Furina takes the L but that is not entirely true. She can buff all elements but her buff is inconsistent without a dedicated healer in your team. Kazuha is better in terms of consistency, but Furina wins in terms of versatility. They have their own specialties but Kazuha clearly takes the W since he has CC and he doesnt need a healer to maximize his buff.
@yeti9961
@yeti9961 9 ай бұрын
My new fav team consists of Furina, Yelan, Bennett, and Hu Tao. ITS BY FAR THE BEST BUFFER TEAM for Hu Tao, and the synergy with all the hp shifts to get max fanfare is so good and there’s good uptime. I haven’t finished building it, but the highest amount of damage I got was 170,000 charged attack with Hu Tao in the overworld and my Bennett wasn’t even on the best weapon I could get for him to max his buff. It’s absolutely nuts! I used to play Zhongli, Yelan, and Mona in a team with Hu Tao as it gave me 120,000-140,000 charged attacks. I’d definitely say Furina is a nice upgrade to the team because I can also vaporize more often with reliable buffing. And plus you get the hydro AND pyro synergy which is a significant boost.
@unaesthetickai
@unaesthetickai 9 ай бұрын
Can you share the build of each characters? I also have all of them so i want to know how to build them
@nyes4596
@nyes4596 7 ай бұрын
Get Xianyun if you can, she can be better than Bennett in that team (Healing + ttds buffs + resistance shred)
@NothingMeansNothingButNothing
@NothingMeansNothingButNothing 7 ай бұрын
So Bennett is enough to keep up Furina's buff?
@uwu.-.5873
@uwu.-.5873 7 ай бұрын
​@@NothingMeansNothingButNothingno. Needs c2. If not its harder to reach max fanfare
@vest2090
@vest2090 11 күн бұрын
@@yeti9961 can you tell the rotations for that team
@minimons2003
@minimons2003 9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind for Furina's buff she can buff (almost) all kind,all elements or any scaling like Atk, Hp, or even Def scaling character at the same time and not to mention her buff is team wise so with this she is a good buffer for sure Your dps might not have bigger number but in term of team dmg she surpass all of them.
@tanlimgreendaless2839
@tanlimgreendaless2839 9 ай бұрын
I tried her on scara, barbara, bennett and furina. she had not much of a buff 35k. (my Barbara healed half of the teams hp and furina is at 34k hp) But, when I did the normal faruzan w bennett and xingqiu to destroy the corolla (faruzan is not c6 and benett is at c3). my team a lot better at 45k. Overall, the faruzan team did better.
@luck002
@luck002 9 ай бұрын
@@tanlimgreendaless2839 Because your barbara and bennett didn't have personal damage contribution for Furina to buff. She is better only if you use high-damage off fielders.
@tanlimgreendaless2839
@tanlimgreendaless2839 9 ай бұрын
@@luck002 so, off field damage dealers would do 40k in 16 seconds?
@luck002
@luck002 9 ай бұрын
@@tanlimgreendaless2839 could be more if they are Albedo, XL, XQ, miko, yelan, or any other high damage off fielders. 40k in 16s is way too small. that is like twice E proc from not so high invested Albedo.
@tanlimgreendaless2839
@tanlimgreendaless2839 9 ай бұрын
@@luck002 I don't have a time machine to go to 2022. There isn't a mention of a healer. But, I will try again with jean and if she doesn't do well. I'm just gonna bench her till I take her artifacts for another character
@rhizelkhiangte1570
@rhizelkhiangte1570 4 ай бұрын
The value for furina buff lies in the fact that she even buffs your whole sub dps herself and the main dps while dishing out huge damage herselfs
@roy__masters
@roy__masters 9 ай бұрын
I'm currently using her with Miko, Al Haitham and Baizhu the DMG is AMAZING mobs die way faster than before. Keep in mind that Furina does a lot of personal dmg (that pretty much compensate the difference of this comparison, last longer vs the other buffers, gives wide buff to all chars even out of field chars and way easier to build.
@user-dh3tu5np6n
@user-dh3tu5np6n 4 ай бұрын
I think a significant portion of Kazuha's buff is from the -60% resistance shred, so if you stack a Jean/Xianyun with Furina she can have that. But you could also combine any of these characters on a team.
@princessochka3690
@princessochka3690 9 ай бұрын
If i recreate the same showcase with my C2 Furina (400 max fanfares) and Ganyu (Viridecent bow, with C1 bonus -15% Cryo res) on Aeonblight Drake in paralysed state: no buffs initial hit -13.787 | bloom - 23.439 Furina C2, Q=10, max stacks (400) initial hit - 21.380 | bloom - 36.346 Bennett, Q=10, 674 base weapon, no set initial hit - 22.232 | bloom - 37.794 Kazuha, Q=10, 1000 em no VV set initial hit - 16.804 | bloom - 28.567 with VV set initial hit - 20.159 | bloom - 34.270 Furinas buff has a 55% dmg increase for both initial hit and bloom. Meanwhile, if we compare Kazuha/Bennett results with Furinas: - Furina gave 21% more dmg than Kazuha without VV set, and 6% more dmg than Kazuha with VV set. - Bennett gave 4% more dmg than Furina (keep in mind, without Noblesse set). Basically, C0 Furina buff is inferior to other sources, and starts to compete on C1. Also, interestingly, on my initial test with Amos bow Furinas dmg increase was smaller (34%-45%).
@nayukaniii
@nayukaniii 6 ай бұрын
The reason for this is because the dmg increase you gain diminishes the more you already have. Amos bow gives dmg bonus on top of what she already has so Furinas dmg bonus won’t have as significant effect as compared to when she has less dmg bonus
@puthaycrabzz7478
@puthaycrabzz7478 4 ай бұрын
kazuha is better.
@ayush4565
@ayush4565 3 ай бұрын
😮furina has insane personal dmg. unlime bennet and kazuha
@princessochka3690
@princessochka3690 3 ай бұрын
@@ayush4565 ...which gets negated by healer having no damage
@keqling7086
@keqling7086 3 ай бұрын
@@ayush4565 kazuha's personal damage in dendro teams is probably bigger
@JustCoeg696
@JustCoeg696 Ай бұрын
Peoples that complaining Furina needs healer is a downside is FURINA LESS I mean .. YOU NEED HEALER OR SHIELDER IN ALMOST EVERY CONDITION ANYWAY WTF MAN ? U MEAN U ALWAYS USE 3 BUFFER AND 1 DPS OR U R USING 4 MAIN DPS IN A TEAM HUH 💀
@alpha4935
@alpha4935 2 ай бұрын
Furina gives so much DMG% that an ATK(/DEF/HP, depending on what the DPS scales off of) Goblet becomes more valuable than an Elemental DMG% one, and the same applies to 4p Wanderer's Troupe compared to 4p Marechaussee, which she enables on most on-field DPS'es. I suspect that's why she didn't fare as well as Mona despite providing a bigger buff. In the future, I'd suggest showing the builds of all characters involved in their entirety in order to leave as little room for assumptions and speculations as possible.
@eterna1379
@eterna1379 17 күн бұрын
Furinas buff requires fluctuations in healing to stack up ig
@anonymousHcat
@anonymousHcat 2 ай бұрын
You need a stronger healer for getting maximum fanfare points for Furina's full buff... it's only half the buff
@kurisu2637
@kurisu2637 Ай бұрын
@@anonymousHcat Nah bro she got maximum fanfare
@anonymousHcat
@anonymousHcat Ай бұрын
No, she didn't..just look where are those plushies?​@@kurisu2637
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 Ай бұрын
​@@anonymousHcat it's max fanfare
@longps9528
@longps9528 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's somewhat balanced between these characters.
@0lix_1xn
@0lix_1xn 8 ай бұрын
Remember that she is using lyeny sig bow and she is using Charlotte so it’s give more dmg if there is the same element as the wielder
@maplesally1218
@maplesally1218 9 ай бұрын
Mona with nobles/tom + ttds Kazuha with viri Bennet with nobless Furina? Golden or tom?
@Onesucks777
@Onesucks777 9 ай бұрын
Golden troupe
@tfxccd
@tfxccd 9 ай бұрын
Why in numbers talent, Furena increases the damage by 75%, but on the field only, it increases by 40% or bit more . I need an explanation because the only thing I can say is that they lied to us.
@1mol831
@1mol831 9 ай бұрын
Probably because their furina was not built properly and also it didn’t have enough healer
@infamous3268
@infamous3268 9 ай бұрын
First burst crown
@nighthunterfrost8251
@nighthunterfrost8251 9 ай бұрын
@hanging_with_my_normies916 could u explain
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
YALL. The buff is considered a element damage bonus stat, so its additive, the buff is not gonna increase your damage by 75% directly for exmaple if you have 0 geo damage bonus then you maximize furina fanfare, then now you have 75% damage geo bonus, you still have to consider enemies resistance and defense.
@nayukaniii
@nayukaniii 6 ай бұрын
Her dmg bonus is added on top of the rest of the dmg in ganyus build(cryo dmg bonus, charge atk dmg from bow,etc). When you have so much her 75% dmg bonus isn’t as significant.
@wadigkin95
@wadigkin95 9 ай бұрын
It is actually kinda hard if test subjects are not hp drainer if the test includes Furina. Those heals just now didnt guarantee maximum buff cap.
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
The test here max buff
@imjustaguycalledsano
@imjustaguycalledsano 2 ай бұрын
The woosh on the screen was the fanfare being maxed
@marufalifitri9927
@marufalifitri9927 2 ай бұрын
This video is weird... isn't mona's buff only 60% damage bonus, while furina's buff at max is 75% damage bonus?? I think it's only fair when you compare buffs to also include stats, artifact sets, and weapon. Mona by herself cannot surpas furina's max buff, but its different if she use nobles as artifact and ttds as weapon... On the other hand for furina, if you only look at buffs, she can also use nobles as artifact and freedom sworn as weapon... I think it's not fair to show buff effects without showing artifact sets and weapon on each characters.
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz 9 ай бұрын
Furina has full uptime, requires way less fieldtime in later rotations and is universal in almost all teamcomp. Also she applies hydro.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
But she just took an L when here when it comes to purely buff tho.
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz 9 ай бұрын
@@alexferrier5732 cos her buff is 100% herself without artifacts or weapon. Furina can get VV through Jean, while atm Kazuha does not have someone that can replicate Furina beside her. Though ofc Jean cannot CC like Kazuha does, but that's another thing. The reason why Kazuha is more irreplaceable than Furina is because other anemo are not good enough. Not to the levels of competition from Yelan and Xingqiu anyway. If new anemo like Cloud Retainer is good enough then Kazuha and Furina will be similar in tier.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
@@PhuongHoang-cj9jz I agree on your point about Kazuha being irreplaceable cause he doesnt have competition as much as Furina competes against XQ and Yelan. But your point about Furina+jean VV putting her buff higuer than Kazuha or Benny is just unfair cause that is two characters against one, if Furina can bring Jean VV to compete, then Kazuha can bring Benny and she Will lose now. Kazuha+Benny is a well known duo that buffes close to 80%final dmg compared to furina's+ jean VV having around 60%final dmg buff.
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz
@PhuongHoang-cj9jz 9 ай бұрын
@@alexferrier5732 Kazuha + Benny is VERY conditional. Bennett is only used in a few top tier teams rn. You can slot Furina + Jean in any team literally, the same with Kazuha, but not Bennett. HP scaling team, Geo team, Dendro team etc. All don't want that pyro application. That's why I said if Furina can be used with Kazuha, or if there would be an anemo healer that's better than Jean then Furina would be on par with Kazuha in term of importance.
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz 9 ай бұрын
@@PhuongHoang-cj9jz lmao bennett is always in top tier teams so is kazuha wtf is u mean bout that
@komgoo4974
@komgoo4974 9 ай бұрын
Im using her as an onfeild hypercarry with a Candace team focused on Atk furina. Currently the team is Bennett, Furina, Candace, Jean. It doesnt work in abyss but its fun to play in open world.
@mist_samurai5037
@mist_samurai5037 2 ай бұрын
Love how horribly these comments aged
@sheberhrbbr2388
@sheberhrbbr2388 2 ай бұрын
Honestly just pulled for furina and found out she is overhyped, she buffs so little I don’t get why everyone says she is good, she doesn’t even heal everyone in the team, only drains your hp for small buff, she is way too overhyped to the point people are just blinded by thinking she is actually good
@shirokuma6147
@shirokuma6147 2 ай бұрын
womp womp
@WatersonRichar
@WatersonRichar 2 ай бұрын
Furina requires a good healer, team and special build. Just because you didn't build her well and that you don't have a good healer that doesn't mean she's bad and you can jump directly into conclusions
@sheberhrbbr2388
@sheberhrbbr2388 2 ай бұрын
@@WatersonRicharnotice how you immediately jumped into saying I didn’t build her well, furina fans sure are toxic, i built her full golden troup, hp sands of eon, hydro damage bonus goblet and both hp and crit dmg circlet, she gets crit rate when leveling her up so mine is as 61% crit rate, I use her with diluc xianyun and she for some odd reason decreased my damage, back then I used to do 249k dmg against scaramouche each plung with diluc and now with her I just do 71k, I have no clue why that happen, she is only good for neuvillette and ayaka otherwise she is so so bad, I have a team healer which is xianyun, and I have singular healers like bennet, Charlotte and etc, she just sucks she doesn’t buff much, my neuvillette used to do 36k full team (without furina) and now he does 40k with her, it’s the fact my only buff in neuvillette team is kazuha, so if I got Mona instead of furina I would Probably do 45k or 50k, how ironic a standard character is better than an event character, and before you say it, yes I’m getting full fanfare even the effect at the edges of the screen is appearing because I have full fanfare, she is only good for dehya and arlecchino for hydro application not even for the buff, so sometimes I replace her with xingqiu, so yeah only good In neuvillette and ayaka team and maybe diluc if I find out why I did 71k damage instead of over 249k damage with diluc-xianyun-kazuha-Rosaria team, it’s the fact diluc does 100k damage with just diluc and xianyun even with kazuha so I have no clue why when furina is in the team damage got lower, my weapon for her is favonious sword r5 and her hp is 41k (with hydro resonance) and 36k hp without it I think, but the only thing I like about her is her e skill does a lot of damage sometimes even nuking a solid 60k damage
@WatersonRichar
@WatersonRichar 2 ай бұрын
@@sheberhrbbr2388 Listen, I'm not a Furina main. I didn't pull for her and I don't love her at all, I'm only saving and want to build Yae Miko but that's off topic so let's put it aside. To be honest I don't like her at all but that doesn't mean she's bad as you might think she is you know, she's like one of the best characters in the game. You don't seem to enjoy her a lot which is understandable, I myself don't enjoy and like her either but that doesn't change the fact she's good.
@WatersonRichar
@WatersonRichar 2 ай бұрын
@@sheberhrbbr2388 But yea, I do agree with you at some points but just there's no way she's that bad you. Everyone says she's good, even content creators put on S tier wether in abyss or in general. Maybe you don't like her play style or you're just disappointed that you pulled for her or it's because of the fact that she drains a lot and a lot of HP? I honestly don't know but I guess you have your own reasons for that, no hates dude
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
Isn’t Furina supposed to buff dmg by 75%, why did it felt so little in the video, like 40%? A bit sus if you ask me
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
@hanging_with_my_normies916 no dude, the splash of water the screen took when Charlotte did her burst means that the fanfare stack had maxed out. It’s how Furina’s burst let’s you know, when that splash happens
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
@hanging_with_my_normies916i did read your comment wrong, I apologize. But… the talent it’s level 9 tho, the change from 9 to 10 is minuscule so my first point still stands
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
@hanging_with_my_normies916 this whole vid is a scam? 😭
@princessochka3690
@princessochka3690 9 ай бұрын
Because it doesn't buff final number by 75%. It works the same way as a dmg% goblet. The actual final increase is about 20-40%.
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
@@princessochka3690 and if she has the fanfare limit of C1?
@thomaskennedy5728
@thomaskennedy5728 7 ай бұрын
I have furina but comparing her with my other buffers lile kazhua and Bennett,she is doing worse.
@nobrainnogame4320
@nobrainnogame4320 9 ай бұрын
Furina is the best universal buffer, she boost equally any character personal damage, regardless their element and her buff last longer and apply to the whole team. Kazuha can't buff Geo, Anemo and Dendro and can't buff the whole team. Bennett can only buff ATK scaling characters that are on-field (or that can snapshot) and do nothing for characters that scale on other stats such as Itto, Noel, Neuvillette for instance. Also while can't be sure since it was not shown but I bet Mona was running on TDS5 + Noblesse (or Tenacity) and since TDS and Noblesse buff ATK stat it fall into the same category as Bennett buff: only ATK scaling characters can work with it. Note: Bennett was probably also on Noblesse and Kazuha on VV while Furina was probably on Golden Troupe which doesn't help at all in term of buffing (also Furina was the only one not talent 10 in the showcase but that a minor point): this seems to be a common mistake when people showcase Furina as a support vs the other supports.
@ChikyuuKun
@ChikyuuKun 9 ай бұрын
Itto? Are you sure? While Itto does rely on DEF, his ULT converts DEF to ATK, so Itto still scales with ATK. So yeah no, Itto still gets buffed by Bennett
@nobrainnogame4320
@nobrainnogame4320 9 ай бұрын
@@ChikyuuKun You're right. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
@tristianybanez5972
@tristianybanez5972 9 ай бұрын
@@ChikyuuKun he doesn't get buffed by Bennett, all his damage comes from his Def being boosted not by his attack being boosted, that's why it's better to put Gorou than Bennett in his comp
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@qwertysysysyysysysyzz 9 ай бұрын
​@@tristianybanez5972bennett still gives as much buffs as a pre-c6 gorou for itto tho lmao
@tristianybanez5972
@tristianybanez5972 9 ай бұрын
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz where's your source?
@rafael285pc
@rafael285pc 6 ай бұрын
Ok now do a damage per rotation to see the difference
@gizdra1128
@gizdra1128 9 ай бұрын
I don't like to admit it but Furina is the best buffer in the game, if only the getting charges and the need for the healer weren't so restrictive... these are things I don't like, but she can give a universal buff to most items even dendro, anemo and geo. If we talk about universal, she is the most universal of the 4
@Zerocyxone9
@Zerocyxone9 8 ай бұрын
Tank 2 hits and ul get max fanfare. It aint hard for characters like raiden. For bow characters furina buff is meh but minion damage takes everything out. Even I cant do scaramouche runs because the moment furina does Q her minions get mayhem and kill scara before I take out my DPS.
@trash0175
@trash0175 Ай бұрын
All is good depending on situation but mona is more situational (usually for freeze team). The others do fine but kazuha sometimes wont work in vaporise or melt since his ult might absorb other elements and ruin the reaction. Furina is hella good, deals off field damage and buff whole team. Only downside is she needs a healer. Bennet is just… too good still. And because pyro resonance will additionally buff everyone of the team as well on top of his own buff+ heals. Just slap ER on him and his buff will basically have 100% uptime anyway. Size of his ulti is small but its really never an issue tbh
@jaaayteam.9471
@jaaayteam.9471 8 ай бұрын
Bruh my lyney F2P hamayumi Ratio 65/180 Playing coop with Furina, my lyney attack charge is 100k dmg😂❤ Furina Is The best But unfortunately I didn't take Furina, because I didn't have jean😭
@Naru647
@Naru647 9 ай бұрын
Benny won in terms of healing and buff
@balbal9770
@balbal9770 9 ай бұрын
HP and DEF scaling character : okay!!
@keroppicolins2433
@keroppicolins2433 9 ай бұрын
healing and buff c6 furina wins
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
@@balbal9770fuck em
@tristanmanalo6252
@tristanmanalo6252 9 ай бұрын
@@balbal9770 EM scaling characters left the comment section 💀💀💀
@sock3981
@sock3981 2 ай бұрын
@@tristanmanalo6252 none of these characters buff em
@TAUrn7true
@TAUrn7true 9 ай бұрын
Did you not use the ATK Cup when you tested her with Furina? then why did you do it?
@Artificial_Artic
@Artificial_Artic Ай бұрын
Man so I need to get Mona & Kazuha + more constellation on Bennett left if I want to deal huge dmg on Beidou
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 Ай бұрын
I just realized how almost all genshin players dont know how to read and do basic math, as well as understand diminishing returns.
@Aria-gy6uk
@Aria-gy6uk Ай бұрын
Your qustion and your video are diffrent. You say who is best "universal" buffer but the in the video you are comparing the power of their buffs. It's obvious that furina is the only one who buffs all elemental and physical damages for longest duration. (Except some reactions depending on elemntal mastery which they have their special buffers like nahida.) And about your test why furina burst is at lvl 9 but others are at their max talent?... anyway mona with 70%atk and 60% bonus is strongest (just for atk scalers) but most universal buffers are: 1.furina 2.kazuha 3.mona 4.bennet And if we want to compare their usages you it's depending on their entire kits not only the buff. Its duration(furina kazuha bennet) , buffing entire team(furina)/ 2elements(kazuha)/only active character(bennet) ,CC(kazuha) ,sub dps(furina kazuha) ... This leads to what you see in spiral abyss usage rates which most of the times is like this: 1.furina 95% 2.kazuha 90% 3.bennet 60% Mona usage is only 5% but here in this test we concluded that mona is best and number 1 and furina number 4 vice versa lol
@SAHIL-wf5gq
@SAHIL-wf5gq 13 күн бұрын
I face no crite hit issue of raiden shougun after using furina burst. It only issues with raiden except her no problem.
@straydogsushi
@straydogsushi 6 ай бұрын
I will forever love Bennett is still held in comparison with amazing five star characters despite being a 4 star and just an unlucky adventure.
@nikyu.106
@nikyu.106 Ай бұрын
How about c1 furina is she better at showcasing than mona?
@cybremystica93
@cybremystica93 2 ай бұрын
Try adding Kazuha, Bennett and either Mona or furina and her dmg will skyrocket
@abyssordersupremacy6828
@abyssordersupremacy6828 9 ай бұрын
Furina buff last longer, plus she does more off field dmg than any of thos buffers while still helping the team
@user-sj7ok9co7q
@user-sj7ok9co7q Ай бұрын
Only problem with Benny… not everyone scales off atk, so with a dps like neuvilette or hu Tao, u pretty much only get healing. However Bennoy is still EXTREMELY strong Imean there’s much more atk scalers than hp ones.
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 Ай бұрын
Hu tao also scales of atk
@derce140394
@derce140394 9 ай бұрын
Furina's burst is not crowned yet rite?
@JoJoLay.Kawaii
@JoJoLay.Kawaii 9 ай бұрын
only lvl 9 compared to the rest which is level 10 so it's not a big difference
@nobrainnogame4320
@nobrainnogame4320 9 ай бұрын
@@JoJoLay.Kawaii Bennett was talent 13, but since he is 4*, I guess it's okay. I'm more interested in what build he used on every support. Pretty sure Mona was one 4p Noblesse + TDS5 which is why she outperform everyone, but I wonder what was the weapon on Bennett the artifact set on Furina.
@apanaama3703
@apanaama3703 2 ай бұрын
Yelan, Raiden, Nahida are ALSO buffers. c6 Sucrose ttds slight edges Kazuha in some teams.
@SaiDaGod
@SaiDaGod 2 ай бұрын
C6 ttds sucrose >> kazuha in vape teams
@uwu.-.5873
@uwu.-.5873 2 ай бұрын
Sucrose is actually better in vape because her passive gives direct EM to teammates. That's the only category sucrose beats kazuha in, everything else quicken, mono teams, etc. kazuha is better. Not to mention cc
@user-hs8sw4ec2f
@user-hs8sw4ec2f 8 ай бұрын
Furina’s buffs everything 🥰
@shadowwalker4633
@shadowwalker4633 2 ай бұрын
You ll use bennett and furina in 2 teams or even in one so no point in comparing both are amazing as for the best support probably chev c6 lol
@shinraorg
@shinraorg Ай бұрын
Love Furina, Got her without knowing who she was, when I got her i had to take my Barbara to Lv70+ from Lv30 😂 Since then I haven't used Bennet
@dicedonion464
@dicedonion464 2 ай бұрын
Bennett can't be considered a universal buffer IMO because his buff is just an atk one, which means he is irrelevant for characters that don't use atk for their main source of dmg like neuvillette or yelan. Furina's buff for example is an actual universal dmg buff, which means she's useful for all characters regardless of their scaling.
@konmaid40
@konmaid40 3 ай бұрын
Bennet - 4Nobles +20%Atk ,Bonus Atk Kazuha - 4Virides -40% , Em+, Bonus Element Mona - 4Nobles +20%Atk , BonusDMG 60% Furina - BonusDMG C0 40-C1 75% , non Artifact Buff That's why the damage numbers when attacking are lower than the others. But it shouldn't be forgotten that Furina has her own off-field damage output as well.
@rockzlbautista1599
@rockzlbautista1599 3 ай бұрын
Furina dmg bonus at C0 is 75% fyi😁
@rockzlbautista1599
@rockzlbautista1599 3 ай бұрын
Furina dmg bonus at C0 is 75% fyi😁
@The30ph
@The30ph 2 ай бұрын
Imo it's definitely furina for the following reasons: Mona's buff just decreases the opponents' resistance once, plus it doesn't last that long Kazuha needs to swirl the element in order to buff damage, meaning that dendro, anemo, geo and physical units can't benefit from him, not to mention how in abyss if other enemies spawn you need to swap back to kazuha to get the buffs again, which isn't that optimal Bennett only buffs attack, meaning that characters that scale off other stats such as neuvillette can't benefit from his buff, not to mention how you need to be in his ult to get the buffs so you're pretty limited movement wise Furina buffs damage, not a specific stat but just your damage, meaning that every character benefits from her ult, plus you're not confined into a limited space like bennett's nor you need to hit the enemies with her skill/burst in order to get the buffs like kazuha's, which helps a lot. The only problem with her is that she struggles to maximize her dmg buff on her own but this is easy to deal with as just bringing a healer like baizhu or jean is enough. Don't get me wrong, all these buffs are great, but furina's is definitely the best
@imjustaguycalledsano
@imjustaguycalledsano 2 ай бұрын
Monas burst isnt tied to a single instance of damage. She places the opponent in the omen state which gives a damage bonus. Most dendro geo anemo and physical units dont want Kazuha or an anemo unit (excluding faruzan) in general for their best teams simply due to the methods in which they output their damage. Moreover using Kazuhas skill is hardly a downside as most characters EQ in any rotation. Bennet's circle impact is hardly an issue most of the time given that you can reposition it every 13 seconds. Furina at c0 requires a healer or a unit who can easily manipulate their HP. Furina's value comes from the fact that she is a hydro unit and buffs the entire team. She isnt the best unit it the game (that crown goes to xingqiu/yelan) but she is extremely useful.
@exzackly4641
@exzackly4641 8 ай бұрын
Furina does completely global buff since she does %Damage Increase. Same applies as Mona but it is hard to keep her Burst ready. Furina also have the longest Elemental Burst duration among all these buffers which is 18 seconds with 15 seconds cooldown. Which mean, Furina buff have 100% uptime if you have enough energy recharge. Same applies to Kazuha, he also have 100% buff uptime if you just use your tap skill, but he can only buff 4 elements. Bennett here only buff Attack, so if you have a DPS that doesn’t scale off Attack, you won’t be using him. In reality, they have their pros and cons. But Furina is just too versatile here. Damage% Increase Healing 100% Burst Uptime with absolutely no downtime (if you have enough ER) Very Good off-field damage (just like she was meant to) That her pros, her cons is: Takes away your team HP Require a healer (which is… not really a cons IMO?) Other than that, nothing. Yes. She is just that good.
@boredartist123
@boredartist123 2 ай бұрын
@@exzackly4641 I really don't get why ppl complain about furina needing a healer like I'm pretty sure u HAVE TO get a healer in floor 12 so u don't die?😭
@God_of_wet
@God_of_wet Ай бұрын
​@@boredartist123 Yeah, and using her in a team with hu tao, yelan and jean is actually fun
@K1ller_Whale610
@K1ller_Whale610 2 ай бұрын
In all honesty there is no "best universal buffer" as there are a lot of different variables to take into account. Things like artifacts or stacking passives on weapons play a role as every character isn't going to have the same stats so it will vary
@drekhunter
@drekhunter 9 ай бұрын
The video speaks for itself, comparabale buff with pretty much 100% uptime works on all 4 characters and the always sought after off field hydro app with her own damage being nothing to ignore and not being tied to duration nor forcing you to play circle impact. That while not having the same talent so it's even closer and it works ON EVERYONE, anemo, geo, phys, dendro (excluding transformative), yeah, she might need a healer but she pretty much consolidates two roles already so it's doable and less restricted.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the video says that her buff isnt as amazing as most Furina players like to Say (they Even say her buff powercreeps Kazuha and Benny which isnt nearly true). This video was purely about the buff, and she Lost here, just take the L. She is amazing in other departments like you Say but she took an L in buffing. Yeah she buffs Geo/phy/dendro/Anemo, but for pyro/electro/cryo/pyro Benny and kaz still better. And her full duration buff is deceiving since most times you won't have full stacks the majority of her burst, just at the end and her full stacks buffs is not Even higuer than Benny/kaz, is on par. No full stacks and straight up loses against other buffs. If I bring Furina for a team it would be mainly for her amazingb off field dmg, her mid buff would be just a bonus
@drekhunter
@drekhunter 9 ай бұрын
@@alexferrier5732 My dude you made up what you wanted to hear, she is buffing a bit less than then others individually, but she isn't crowned as the others, she isn't as high as the others but she has almost 100% uptime, she isn't forcing you onto circle impact and she is dealing good damage herlself. You think someone will say something about it not being higher than a 1000 EM Kazuha or a crowned C5+ Bennett? She hits like a truck off field, while buffing herself and everyone, she makes MH viable on non fontaine characters, she might take two slots because you want a healer but she like Kokomi consolidates two roles as well so excluding some few characters she is freeing the slot she is taking. The stacks ain't hard to get and it doesn't take that long, you're making problems that don't exist, calling her buff mid has to be Furinaless behavior.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
@@drekhunter I take your point about she not forcing circle impact, I think that is Her biggest strenght along her off field dmg. But your point about her not being crowned is not a Big factor, the difference between lv9 and lv10 talent is minimal, just like the difference between lv8 and lv9 is, nothing special, just a 3%dmg buff increase, crowned would not bring ganyu CA hit from 47k to 56k like what Ganyu is hitting with Benny/kaz. It would bring ganyu to hit like 49k, no Big deal she still loses on buffing. And I don't have Furina cause I don't want her, she doesnt bring anything new to my account and I don't want to build a healer just for her, I have never needed healers, furinaless behaviour proudly, the one I do want is nahida, now thats a character that can actually level up my acc to clear abyss 12 with 9* Even faster, I already clear it anyways, but furina wouldnt have made me better than what Kazuha, Benny and Shenhe are already doing for my acc. I have seen dozens of videos of Furina at C0 showcases to see that she always reaches full stacks of buffs when her burst is already past half her duration and she is using jean as a healer, she can't full stack at C0 in the first seconds, is just impossible mathematically. I mean, this video is about the Best buffer, not about the Best support overall. Furina Lost on buff, simple as that. She might win on Best support but Benny and kaz are thought competitors, they are on the same league overall. But that is another conversatión, Main topic is that she doesnt buff as much as Benny/kaz overall, she gets close or if right circumstances meet she matches them,, but with a difficult mechanic behind when kaz/Benny just push a button and full buff since the start. Benny circle impact tho but kaz has no disadvantage except not buffing Geo/phy/Anemo/dendro (but he works great with dendro anyways). Kaz also doesnt suffer about circle impact.
@drekhunter
@drekhunter 9 ай бұрын
​@@alexferrier5732 Ran the calcs, going as close as I could to the video (and with the guy blazing throught the stats as if he is hiding something). Something doesn't add up with the video. I managed to make the ganyu hit against a Aeonblight 35040, and sure enough the buff from a Furina at talent 9 is 47276, a talent 10 Furina would hit for 48340, not a gap closer as you said but: A talent 13 bennettwith the highes base attack possible (Aquila or MS) hits for 51200, still higher but it's half the gap that we had before, even weirder, if I go for a lower attack weapon and add a Noblesse, oh look at that 53k, lets be dears and give Furina also a Noblesse and talent 10, just for the sake of seeing how big is the gap. 52879 GASP!! almost as high as Bennett, same with Tenacity, both sets she can use, that's so weeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiird, but surely he wouldn't do something sneaky like using TToDS on Mona without telling us? let's see what the calculator shows mmm 45680 10k short, what does a TToDS show? 55974!!! OMG IN OUR UNBIASED BEST SUPPORT VIDEO!!! seems like Kazuha was the only honest one, since well, Anemo is worthless without VV. OMG!!! IMAGINE BEING SO PETTY AS TO COMPARE A CHARACTER WITHOUT MAX TALENT LEVEL TO OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN SO FOR AGES AND LETTING THEM USE BUFFING SETS AND WEAPONS ON A VIDEO TITTLED "THE BEST UNIVERSAL BUFFER" Imagine what would happen if I were to, lets say give Furina Kazuha's signature on this test, OMG FURINA IS THE BEST BUFFER IN THE WHOLE GAME 60788 DAMAGE ON A GANYU CA, NO NEED FOR QUESTIONS!!! Paint it as you want but you either give them all the best tools available, or everyone goes without, there's no middle ground, if you're gonna ignore her VASTLY superior application and her VASTLY SUPERIOR OFF FIELD DAMAGE! then you have to measure pure unbiased buffs, she isn't the highest buff on a normal build but it's damn close to characters focused on it, the difference is that hers WORKS WITH EVERYONE!!! no circle, no elemental swirls required, no need for a set in particular and she deals damage and applies hydro while at it, OH NOOOOOO SHE NEEDS A HEALER, last time I checked this community couldn't let go of Kokomi and Zhongli so you all already needed a healer, Furina just makes some of them stop being a DPS loss. Know what the best part of the whole thing? just the question alone "who's the best universal buffer" screams FURINA! Bennett buffs attack, Mona has uptime problems and Kazuha can't boost 3 elements and Physical, Furina doesn't give a flying fck about it she buffs EVERYONE! so there is your answer Furina.
@alexferrier5732
@alexferrier5732 9 ай бұрын
@@drekhunter I actually read your whole test, I prepared a coffee and went for it, was a Nice read actually. You are right that this video may be bias towards making her look bad, since this channel has been seen messing up to tests, for example in previous ones where he was comparing Wrio vs haithams vs Neuvillette Best DPS, he messed up Wrio rotation bursting at the end when he didnt need to burst, another CA and boss was dead finishing 1.5 seconds earlier, and Guess what? Wrio loss to them by that small amount. One could say he was trying to continuing pushing the narrarive about Wrio being not that good (he is amazing), but I think he genuanilly messed up and didnt know wrio's burst is a DPS loss in short Windows of dps. Also he has Made Furina look good before on the channel, winning on off field dmg agianst XQ and Yelan. So I don't think that is the case that this channel tries to push bias against Furina. Now You forgot something about your calcs, mona has to run TToDS cause SHE CAN, Furina cannot so this is an advantage towards mona that she has to exploit, same as benett using noblese, Benny is pretty much glued to noblese just like kaz is glued to VV, it's like if he ran Furina with no Golden set against XQ and Yelan on that video, Golden gave an unfair advantage to Furina there but nobody cared since Furina has to run that set or else her off field damage tanks down 40% and she then would lose against Yelan/XQ who were running emblem set (emblem set buffes burst around 40% more compared to furina's Golden set which buffes around 75%, so it was unfair to XQ and Yelan then?). All this supports have to run their optimal sets, there is no reason to run benny with no noblese or kaz with no VV or mona with no TToDS or Furina with no Golden set (she suddenly would go from hitting 30k with her pets to hit like 19k, not that amazing now eh?). Overall Furina has the better off field dmg, XQ and Yelan have Best hydro application (Furina doesnt have good hydro app, she can't be solo hydro on a vape team, dunno why You said she has superior hydro app, not superior to XQ and Yelan). And for buff kaz/benny/mona still better, Benny buffs every element and heals massively (Furina heals pale un comparison) and Benny can be brought alone to a team, not glued to a healer like furina, altho Benny doesnt do off field dmg and forces circle impact. Kaz has superior buff if we add it with VV, has amazing CC, can be put alone in a team, only problem with him is he doesnt buff 4 elements, but for the 4 he does buff he is superior or at least more confortable than Furina. Mona, nah, she loses in everything against Furina, but mona can still be brought alone unlike furina tho, but loses on everything, the small buff advantage she has is not worth it vs using furina. Furina is an all rounder, not the Best buffer but still has a high buff, not Even close to be the Best healer but it can be used situationally, doesnt have the Best hydro app, but she actually excels at one thing and that is her superior off field dmg (in Big party for Golden set, but she has to be ran with Golden set, running her with noblese or tenacity is not worth over Golden). Another plus is she doesnt forcé circle impact. But has to be used with a healer which can be unconfortable to some people. All in all furina is amazing, not broken like people thought she would be, but she is damn good and can't go wrong with her in a team. But still not the Best support overall, is situational, for AoE chambers Kaz is better for the 4 elements he buffes, if you only have one slot on your team, kaz also better if one runs his 4 elements. If one wants a character that buffes and heals at the same time and only has one slot on a team, Benny is your boy. If one already runs a healer on a team and has a slot for a buffer/off field dmg, Furina is your girl (except for vaporize teams, cause her hydro app is not enought on those, but rest of the teams she is enought). If one has two slots on a team, Furina+ healer is a great choice. But it's all situational, Furina is not the universally Best answer to everyone, Furina is not the Best support, neither Benny or kaz, is a close competition.
@heck8598
@heck8598 8 ай бұрын
Furina literally gives 100% dmg bonus to EVERTHING- she’s clearly the best buffer
@exzackly4641
@exzackly4641 8 ай бұрын
Nah, she gives 75% damage bonus if you have maximum fanfare. Unless you have C1.
@heck8598
@heck8598 8 ай бұрын
@@exzackly4641not pulling for ATLEAST C2 Furina is like not pulling for HuTaos C1 lmao
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
​@@heck8598Furina C2 is quality of life as well as C1 hu tao, though it's nice but not required unless your a die hard meta player.
@DollychaiwalaXBillgates
@DollychaiwalaXBillgates 3 ай бұрын
Imagine using all of them at once (Don't comment that players are already using it i already know)
@Batonz
@Batonz 2 ай бұрын
Furina seems the most flexible, I prefer Kazuha for the type of teams I'm going to run though.
@Enzotyy
@Enzotyy 2 ай бұрын
Mona got the highest number but It doesnt mean anything, her buffs all come from ult and lasts nothing. Furina simps will get mad at me, but fact is Kazuha is by far the best support in the game, it is not discussable. And the most versatile unit too. It was my first 5* character that I got on 1.6 and after more than 3 years I still never take it out of my teamcomps. He is THE buffer. Only weak point is he cant buff physical/anemo/geo/dendro. But that doesnt matter because these are not meta anyways. And everything else, he IS the best buffer in the game. Short cooldown, high particle generation, CC, easy to use, high ult uptime ... He has no downsides you want him in every team
@Anas34779
@Anas34779 2 ай бұрын
Furina's buff doesn't work like that.first do the ult then heal the rest of the team with food then you good to go
@xJannah637
@xJannah637 2 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you for this honesty. I feels like from the beginning Furina's kit isn't that as amazing as everyone make it out to be. A little bit overhype you can say and it makes me wonder what went wrong or was I just imagining it but this video kind of show/explained why. Not to say her buff isnt good. It is but not the best buffer as everyone make it out to be. It is conditional I think with the right artifacts, team rotation and perhaps her cons also might help it better. Thanks for the honesty x) Just need to wait till Natlan come out and the hype for her as best character cool down a bit I wanna hear more honest review such as this. Like the struggles to use her and such. P.S Not trying to bash her, I love her pls, I have her in my team. No hate pls
@uwu.-.5873
@uwu.-.5873 2 ай бұрын
Her damage is hard to see from screenshots that's why. In a realistic rotation she buffs her own damage, and usually even for heavy hyper teams like neuvi she does 25% of team damage, which is important because that means she is providing her damage ontop of buffs Needs a heal tho, that could mean one less subdps or shielder wtv Kazuha has ability to vv + dmg buff, and if done correctly can buff the whole team basically. But offers less damage in comparison If you are meta dog just get both. All in all they're actually equal with kazuha being more friendly to newer accounts imo (the barrier to entry for buffing is wayy lower for kazuha)
@YandereAyano
@YandereAyano 2 ай бұрын
Put: Ganyu, kazuha, mona, furina in one team😊
@frenzy4686
@frenzy4686 8 ай бұрын
fyi char that use normal and charged attack hit more damage with att buff instead of elemental bonus
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
I feel like every character with attack scaling hit harder with attack.
@Abajirka
@Abajirka 5 ай бұрын
This is some kind of nonsense. why does furina give less than Mona, although it was clear that the buff was working in full force, and it is stronger than Mona’s
@JustCoeg696
@JustCoeg696 Ай бұрын
@@Abajirka 3 factors Mona talent higher than Furina Furina isn't crowned yet Mona use Ttds
@amarmohanta2516
@amarmohanta2516 5 ай бұрын
Guys who is better for nuke furina or mona😢
@pm2.572
@pm2.572 5 ай бұрын
If your character use nuke attack, Mona better. Furina have to take time for max fanfare
@Suppersirup
@Suppersirup Ай бұрын
I have every one of them expect Mona😭 and she buffs the most
@nazumi292
@nazumi292 9 ай бұрын
Kazuha: can't buff GEO, ANEMO and DENDRO character Bennet: can only buff ON-FIELD character and can't buff character who has HP scale Furina: can buff all element and Both ON-FIELD AND OFF-FIELD character
@loreyxillumina
@loreyxillumina 8 ай бұрын
Another thing about bennet is circle impact for characters who can't snapshot
@allheartsu
@allheartsu 7 ай бұрын
are u sure he cant buff hp scaling characters? cus i use kokomi and his burst buffs her burst from 10k to 15k-18k 😭
@loreyxillumina
@loreyxillumina 7 ай бұрын
@@allheartsu Bennett buffs character's atk, tell me how he can buff hp. Run Furina with Kokomi, she is her best teammate. Edit: The dmg you are getting is probably because he is increasing koko's atk.
@jayvaldez9984
@jayvaldez9984 2 ай бұрын
@@allheartsubecause kokomi’s normal attacks scale from atk (her na talents affects her damage and her burst talent just increase her na damage more)
@SuperHaoken
@SuperHaoken 9 ай бұрын
For Bennett, results would have been different if it was another pyro characters. For Furina, she needs time to a maximum of fanfares. Plus if there 4 characters, her buff would have been better. And even more if her skills drained their HP.
@SmartyPoohBear
@SmartyPoohBear 9 ай бұрын
1:15 Doesn't that screen effect mean it has reached max fanfare?
@imjustaguycalledsano
@imjustaguycalledsano 2 ай бұрын
​@@SmartyPoohBearyes
@therealgardenwarden
@therealgardenwarden Ай бұрын
Bruh just make a team with the 4 of them
@FatGod1
@FatGod1 4 ай бұрын
Here i thought mona was useless and she is getting dust in hero pool for 2 yrs
@zeynepy8607
@zeynepy8607 2 ай бұрын
Bennett? Why? Because he was free and very easy to get currently as well other than these chars you need to spend many wishes for them, and he still is the pyro archon in many teams. Don’t want my Lyney, Arlecchino and Raiden teams without him still.
@bruhi3816
@bruhi3816 9 ай бұрын
It's to embarrassing to see all the futina havers saying that she is still better
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh 9 ай бұрын
True man lol I also have furina but I admit she's not the best support
@Emmersu
@Emmersu 9 ай бұрын
yea the universal buff that applies to off field characters too and has 100% uptime is so bad , I'm so malding with copium that I got her 😂🤦‍♂
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh 9 ай бұрын
@@Emmersu oh seriously just try to get it without any healer 🤣🤣🤣
@Emmersu
@Emmersu 9 ай бұрын
​@@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh you can get it even with barbara who is free lol and even better with charlotte who is on her banner, and few of the fontaine dps like neuvilette work even without a healer , some of you have serious skill issue lol
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh
@NityavartBhardwaj-br9sh 9 ай бұрын
@@Emmersu no man issue is that I like the community fighting over who's the best support even through u can use all of them it's very enjoying after genshin is genshin 😂😂😂😂
@Wuhaboo
@Wuhaboo 2 ай бұрын
Mona??? Ayooo
@ANoobInvoid
@ANoobInvoid 9 ай бұрын
Ok I calculated the damage percent of furina in this video, it only buffs 35% damage rather than 69% (talent lvl 9)... there is clearly something wrong here. Edit: Furina only increases elemental dmg bonus and other dmg bonus like skill or burst dmg bonus.
@tfxccd
@tfxccd 9 ай бұрын
so Why thay don,t fix that
@ihate.promax1140
@ihate.promax1140 9 ай бұрын
Can you try it out? Do a showcase
@nighthunterfrost8251
@nighthunterfrost8251 9 ай бұрын
@hanging_with_my_normies916no look at the talent level they showed so clearly they must have lied or something
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
YALL. The buff is considered a element damage bonus stat, so its additive, the buff is not gonna increase your damage by 75% directly for exmaple if you have 0 geo damage bonus then you maximize furina fanfare, then now you have 75%(Level 10 talent) damage geo bonus, you still have to consider enemies resistance and defense. So this result is normal. To break it down even further, imagine kazuha elemental damage bonus but it caps at 75% but cant provide vv shred.
@ANoobInvoid
@ANoobInvoid 8 ай бұрын
@@singingwhale977 yeah I realized that before and forgot to change the comment, thanks for reminding me. Also since furina can straight up be an elemental goblet or even a weapon replacement, your other characters can change to another build that maximizes more damage since there are diminishing returns.
@thearchitect9386
@thearchitect9386 2 ай бұрын
you didn’t get furina’s full buff
@Uchiha...Itachi
@Uchiha...Itachi 2 ай бұрын
Bennet>kazuha>furina>mona cope bozos
@Name-bb8wo
@Name-bb8wo 6 ай бұрын
Guys if you have furina dont pull for mona if you dont have her havijg mona will be sufficient Kazuha is a must since there arent many others like him (Anemos) and his C2 goes cryze.
@uwu.-.5873
@uwu.-.5873 2 ай бұрын
You dont pull mona mona pulls you
@WhiteMageOfTheWind
@WhiteMageOfTheWind Ай бұрын
Yelan didn't even make it on the list. 💀
@SungMax
@SungMax 8 ай бұрын
Bennett is Still Better than Furina, in terms of buff.
@invalidy4r4
@invalidy4r4 7 ай бұрын
No 1. Bennet has small circle 2. Bennet cannot buff if the character not above 70% hp 3. Bennet does not buff HP/DEF scaling characters 4. Bennet only buffs onfield characters
@invalidy4r4
@invalidy4r4 7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile furina buffs literally everything, just use a healer and youre good
@itzlivewire
@itzlivewire 8 ай бұрын
Furina here didn't even gain her fanfare
@exzackly4641
@exzackly4641 8 ай бұрын
Did we play the same game🔥🔥‼️‼️🙏🙏
@toonanimeindiaamvs4732
@toonanimeindiaamvs4732 9 ай бұрын
Love ur vids
@opalex5529
@opalex5529 Ай бұрын
I have all
@pipysnipy5929
@pipysnipy5929 9 ай бұрын
If only we could equip all 4 to a team 😢
@tristanmanalo6252
@tristanmanalo6252 9 ай бұрын
Actually I am using all four of them in a team Furina, Bennett, Kazuha and Mona in a team 😅😅😅
@1mol831
@1mol831 9 ай бұрын
@@tristanmanalo6252does it work?
@anirban3974
@anirban3974 4 ай бұрын
Mona did the highest damage at level 1 talents
@daviduser779
@daviduser779 9 ай бұрын
Wait Mona gives 60% dmg bonus at lvl 10 and furina gives 68% at lvl 9 talent. How ganyu is hitting harder with mona? Did she has TTDS + Tanacity?
@Miro.
@Miro. 9 ай бұрын
omen also increases damage taken
@daviduser779
@daviduser779 9 ай бұрын
@@Miro. How it works?
@nevaraay9635
@nevaraay9635 9 ай бұрын
Because Mona isn't a buffer, but a debuffer instead. Buff and debuff are calculated different. Total damage = (actual dmg)*(bonus damage)*(enemies's debuff)/(enemies's res) To put it simply we can say that damage appear in this case (Mona&Furina support) are multiply by: (100% + bonus damage)*(100% + enemies's debuff) Note: 100% here are initial value, so that if bonus damage & debuff are zero, the multiplier are remain value is 100% or 1. Also Ganyu in this video already hv cryo Bonus, i forgot how much e.bonus from goblet, suppose it's around 70% cryo bonus. So Ganyu from the start already hv 70% dmg bonus. For Furina (dmg bonus 68%): (100% + 70% + 68%)*(100% + 0) = (238%)*(100%) = 2.38*1 = 2.38 multiplier And for Mona (debuff 60%): (100% + 70%)*(100% + 60%) =1.7*1.6 =2.72 multiplier Summary Mona multiplier > Furina multiplier Thats why Mona can give more high boost dmg. Debuffer are OP in these games, same like def/res shred.
@Miro.
@Miro. 9 ай бұрын
@@nevaraay9635 mona both buffs and debuffs...
@daviduser779
@daviduser779 9 ай бұрын
@@nevaraay9635 forgive me I'll never ask anything please don't send those maths again bro
@Onesucks777
@Onesucks777 9 ай бұрын
ALL FURINA HAVERS - first things first he didnt utilise the buff to the maximum amount mm now lets see why furina is the best universal buffer, furina can buff even dendro and geo , and can buff even hp and def scaling characters and also she does good off field DMG and yes that was an other and , she does good enough application and also heal good , So ignore others , u did a good pull! Edit : benny has limited area to buff, mona buffs is short(snapshot characters yall good) , kazuha like i said cant buff dendro or geo oh and anemo too...oh and lol dont think im coping or anything (its fact anyways) i dont have furina(played in my frnd's acc tho) and this was my opinion , just making sure im not biased. Definitely will pull her in next rerun....
@singingwhale977
@singingwhale977 8 ай бұрын
This delulu fans are crazyyy
@__Anger__
@__Anger__ 9 ай бұрын
Беннет, потому что играешь с сян лин, и у нее нормально будет копиться ульта, + пиро статус
@ALEXANDER6888
@ALEXANDER6888 3 ай бұрын
The thing is that Furina forces you to run a healer to get the max stacks fast. So I'd rather use the other supports, specially because they're better
@milliesbiggestfan
@milliesbiggestfan 2 ай бұрын
ur meant to have a healer regardless.. 😭
@ALEXANDER6888
@ALEXANDER6888 2 ай бұрын
@@milliesbiggestfan No, you're not. Most teams have no healers, they're mostly shielders or self healers (like Hutao, Wrio, Neuv). For Furina you MUST run a healer that heals the whole team a lot, and only a few do that. So you're using 2 slots for 1 char. You can use Charlotte, Baizhu, Barbara or Jean. Very limited choices. I'd never trade Shenhe for charlotte, Nahida for baizhu, Yelan for Barbra or Kazuha for jean. You're losing too much damage.
@Takatou__Yogiri
@Takatou__Yogiri 2 ай бұрын
Kazuha lovers just can't accept furina is better overall 💀💀. So they are yapping in the comment.
@ade8362
@ade8362 5 ай бұрын
the real W here is kazuha
@rashmiranjansahu8271
@rashmiranjansahu8271 2 ай бұрын
Use em all
@MateusReghin
@MateusReghin 9 ай бұрын
Layla C4
@Hidekel_
@Hidekel_ 9 ай бұрын
Y por esa razon ni loko sacaria a furina aparte de que furina es el uniko soporte que okupa otro supor para funcionar al 100% furina es una desepcion c0 y c2 😢
@sachinarya6667
@sachinarya6667 5 ай бұрын
Furina mains can't accept truth.🤧
@dalors3060
@dalors3060 5 ай бұрын
check who they hire more on the 12th floor)
@S1aSoN
@S1aSoN 9 ай бұрын
People love her so much that no matter that she did lower damage (in terms of short time), they will still say she is the best. People must justify looses on rolling Furina. :))) (now they will type angry comments under, about how am I ... I think, that best is and was, all time Bennet(burst damage and heal) and Kazuha( debuffing- buffing and crowd control). And after is Mona. At short period of time. For burst damage, tests and so on. For long fight like Abyss is Furina, not like a hydro aplication, but like a damage buffer and second damage dealer.
@MarcoSax94
@MarcoSax94 9 ай бұрын
Math Is not for everyone... Furina gives You a lot of dmg bonus, the other 3 characters debuff and atk bonus also. So a ganyu with 300 crit dmg of course Will be worth with a debuff instead of a buff dmg. You could easily have much more dmg with Furina with a atk % goblet or circlet
@fadifadi-4u
@fadifadi-4u 5 ай бұрын
تجربة فورينا كانت خاطئة جدا.
@SupaRush
@SupaRush 9 ай бұрын
Mona Impact
@Fiction-pg7tp
@Fiction-pg7tp 9 ай бұрын
Furina is more versatile and good for long fight
@madara2898
@madara2898 9 ай бұрын
Hah As I already thought, Furina is the worst puff in the game 😂😂😂😂😂 🗑
@unknown-zj8hk
@unknown-zj8hk 9 ай бұрын
Furina's buff lasts 18 seconds while mona lasts 4 seconds.. so don't compared only 1 crit damage omg....
@syedakib3534
@syedakib3534 9 ай бұрын
It takes more than 5 sec to make a full rotation and another 5 sec to gain the fanfares from 0-300. So u get less than 8 sec buff time. Others give dmg bonus almost instantly
@victortamoy9778
@victortamoy9778 9 ай бұрын
@@syedakib3534 With that logic, Kazuha and Mona's buff lose, Kazuha's buff lasts 8s, when you use your dps you will only have 3-5s of buff, with Mona ttds it would be about 3-4s. Furina's buff lasts 10s to obtain 300 charges, but what happens when you have 150 charges (5s)? Doesn't it give you a buff? Or do you not think a 37% elemental bonus buff is important? That buff only increases with rotation. So Furina gives a buff that lasts much longer, is more universal and has great personal damage, she is broken.
@syedakib3534
@syedakib3534 9 ай бұрын
@@victortamoy9778 keeping aside my Bennett’s buff even my Mona’s buff kills enemies faster than Furina. Idk why. I’ve tried everything possible for her but the only thing I found out is that she’s just overrated. And most of the time it’s so difficult to reach 300 fanfares
@victortamoy9778
@victortamoy9778 9 ай бұрын
@@syedakib3534 If it is in the showcase or in the open world, Mona's buff can help you kill enemies faster than Furina (c0), but in the abyss Furina is much better, Mona's buff lasts a very short time, in the end your dps will lose the buff if the enemy has a lot of life, for example: you can barely do 3-4 charges with hu tao or 1 basic sequence with yoimiya (1 of 3). Also, I think you are ignoring Furina's personal damage, it is very high, try it yourself and you will see that you are underestimating her benefit and damage. Remember that all damage adds up. ps: if you want to try furina in vapez play with: yelan, bennet or jean and use the dps pyro you want. In my case with the team of Furina, Yelan, Bennet and Yoimiya/Hu Tao I do more damage than with Kazuha, Yelan, Bennet and Yoimiya/Hu Tao.
@syedakib3534
@syedakib3534 9 ай бұрын
@@victortamoy9778 the problem is that most full party healers I have are cryo except for Barbara. If it’s about her overall performance it’s true that Furina does good amount of damage. I’m testing out xiao, zhongli, barbara/bennett and furina. Even though mona+ttds gives instant buff Furina’s longer duration is kinda helping out a bit. The only issue is maximizing fanfares which is very slow
@ansonlau3181
@ansonlau3181 2 ай бұрын
That is why furina is trash
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