The Best Way To Pheno Hunt With Plant Restrictions! (Garden Talk

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks to CE420 for coming onto the podcast today! CE420’s channel- bit.ly/3VXtFvD

[@CExpress420]

@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt loved being on the show, man, and the feed back has been awesome. Keep up the good work with these high quality episodes!

[@neanderthalnugs]

@@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt look at mine I’m just starting up but I’m able to come on n do a video I do indoor out door breeding organics if you want it’s Neanderthalnugs on KZbin n I’m creating a new channel that I don’t show plants on ima do info focused videos

[@Erika_kylee]

Great interview... just subscribed 🌱💚🌬

[@CExpress420]

@MattV757 highly appreciated!

[@JonKargathalon]

This is the best medicinal plant podcast on KZbin, hands down!

[@CExpress420]

My thoughts exactly!

[@saksija1987]

It's called Cannabis don't be a pussy

[@alphaomega8373]

Its basically the Donahue show about erb.

[@snowliferwb]

Have you checked out the pot cast, Dude grows show, jug dealers. Lots of shows but only a few really good ones that drop real knowledge

[@ironindica7342]

Found my favorite pheno about 6 months a go, and it doesn't smell in flower so much so that i almost didn't take clones of her and has no bag appeal, clones like shit but I now couldn't live without her 😂

[@DanRayBeats]

the best way is to not give a fuck abt those restrictions..

[@HoRRiiBLe1313]

This is such a drooler comment.

[@mopar426power]

Cool. Then, when enough people get caught "not caring" about plant restrictions, they'll make stricter laws further limiting plant counts or making it illegal again. Also, better hope Trump doesn't win in November because the party of "family values" (ironic considering a felon is their frontrunner) doesn't believe in using the plant we all have grown to love and wants to criminalize it and throw users/growers in jail for it. There is consequences to all of our actions. Be smart about it please.

[@TimJameson-jg8sl]

Circumvent is the magic word

[@Erika_kylee]

I smoke so much I tend to FORGET what my limitations are 🤔🤫🤐

[@Sourman5000]

Let’s gooooo! Thanks for always coming through Mr. Grow it

[@larsingre5615]

Always great guests with interesting topics, thanks Chris. Growlove from Sweden!💚🪴

[@redonk1740]

As far as dude wondering why some stuff has so much bag appeal but little to no effect, there's a few reasons. I think the main one being that most commercial stuff is grown for profit first and foremost. They're incentivized to cut stuff as early as possible before the cannabis has a chance to fully ripen. Also, they know that bag appeal and marketing sells more cannabis than quality does. It's sad but true, so that's what they do. They breed for bag appeal and numbers on a lab sheet. Breeding for numbers on a lab test might sound great at first, but you have to keep in mind there's more we don't know about cannabis and it's cannabinoids than we do. People get blinded by bag appeal and numbers - it becomes all they shop for, and then that becomes all the commercial cannabis is bred for. IME, home growers and grey/black market tends to end up with more effective flower because 1) they're not limited to canopy size or plant counts and 2) they often don't have the luxury of using lab tests, so they're going by feel. There is a lower chance of some good unknown genetic quality getting bred out in an effort to chase 1 known terp or a few known cannabinoids.

[@BaerGrows]

I'm also a new grower and really enjoy hearing everybody's advice

[@jaymehines3193]

I am really enjoying this episode!!Been around awhile and I'm excited again and have a great path from here...Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

[@CExpress420]

Thank you!

[@MuenchnerGrow]

I am in germany and lucky to be allowed to grow 3 plants, I would love to pheno hunt, hopefully someday more plants are possible😊💚

[@skankhunt420]

Fuck our government!

[@LegionsLab420]

Big fan of both of your channels. So excited for this episode!

[@CExpress420]

Love to see you made it to the drop man!

[@TrentsGotAGarden]

Awesome episode, tons of valuable, plant-science based information shared.

[@CougheeBrosGenetics]

Great content sir. Long time viewer and new AC infinity family! Just got my 4x2. I hit that sub button too. Thank you again for the great info for novice and pros.

[@jimmyanderson420]

Let's go growmies!!! Any Minnesota growers here?!?!

[@laconflo1613]

Here..here!

[@jimmyanderson420]

@@laconflo1613 Blaine here...u?

[@buckkowalzek9745]

@jimmyanderson420 Staples in the house.

[@mikeblomberg2776]

I'm out here by Rochester MN

[@laconflo1613]

@@jimmyanderson420 Richfield

[@reginaldfortunus1596]

Great episode! Im in Québec, Canada, and just got my license for personal growing. I can grow 195 plants. So ya, this is gonna be helpful!

[@weedmanculture]

195 plantes ? Tu as l'espace? Comment as tu fais pour les convaincre? Jai un permis pour 25 et ca me coute 250$ par année et toi?

[@glen.simpson]

a lot of states out there.... feel you bry

[@CExpress420]

Plant limits are definitely going to give alot of growers a hard time. My mission is to try to work towards eliminating/loosening restrictions as well as trying to make it less painful for growers to deal with.

[@MyOkGarden]

Currently watching. Gonna follow this dude. He is my doppelgänger. Well I’m bald, but you get what I’m saying…

[@CExpress420]

Definitely appreciate it, man!

[@prime7999]

Thanks Chris hoping to see you on the James Loud Podcast at some point. So many good content creators to collaborate is inspiring, but mainly to interact and garden better rather than compete lol. Bless up

[@wyattearp2667]

I've never had a stem smell equal the final harvest smell

[@PopcornSmoothie]

I have and it was really cool. Had an ocean fruit cultivar (Tahoe x peanut butter breath) x purple punch. The stems in mid/late veg smelled nutty, dark, sweet, skunky AND funky. The leaves had a similar smell when rubbed. When the trichomes started developing, the leaves smelled like grape fruitpunch. But once everything got cut down, it became that nutty dark, skunky funk. It was really gassy when burned too which is just the cherry on top. A ton of amazing strains though will have a different smell or no smell at all until mid flower. I've experienced this with cap junky crosses.

[@kinkerlitzchen_tech]

Love that timing, greetings from germoneyyyy

[@hallo6323]

keine Minute Online , und schon 2 Deutsche hier . Lustig :D

[@Ittybittythetwofacedkitty]

Liked his videos on Carnivorous plants

[@WewillbeFreeinlightandPeace]

Nice podcast thanks alot 😃

[@jjjjjasonjjjjjackson]

I just started in medium recommended by Bruce Bugabee of 50%Peat/50%vermiculite with adding dolomitic Lime and gypsum. The mixture feels very soft and should allow the roots to expand easily.

[@SomebodysNephew]

I planted some 21 Mendocino County SFNG and one of them is the most insane growing plant I have ever seen. It legitimately made the others seem like runts not worth keeping. Gonna give the guest a watch and see what he's about. Always down to learn something.

[@SameDayparlay]

Awesome video...I was surprised that he was a fellow Michigander

[@CExpress420]

Hell yeah, peace Gromie!

[@Headies420]

great episode. he seems like a nice guy. already followed his channel. I'm also an aspiring content creator. I have a channel where I explore the growing universe, since it just became legal out here. moving to delaware to up my plant count actually. I also am starting 2 other channels, one called crime pays but architecture doesn't, where I travel, talk about culture, explore public access issues in the city, the city planning, architecture, famous buildings, neighborhood feels, etc. then a cooking channel. problem is i'm terrible at videography and need some capital for a new phone, mic, apps, etc. I've learned a lot from your shows. love your work!

[@cooltrkin]

That's funny when I was in high school the only A I ever got in English was a report on, HOW TO ROLE A JOINT.

[@FARCOAL.]

This guys ethics are amazing, i only wish breeders pheno hunted like him. " i dont kill any untill ive smokd theem " Spot on! its only about the smoke. love!

[@CExpress420]

@FARCOAL. glad you feel the same way!

[@moritzgrunicke9538]

very nice episode! hopefully we can legally phenohunt one day too. greetings from germany! by the way: don't throw away plants too fast sometimes they overshot in the last weeks like i just experienced in my mephisto's wedding run.

[@FlowerPower369]

Thank You.

[@willanderson5088]

4 in veg and 4 in flower in Minnesota

[@Growku]

I got a male .. that leaf’s in veg and stem rub smells extremely dank more than most flower ready to 💨. Crossed it to GG4 and Wedding cake got other to breed it to but waiting to harvest first seed 😅😊 🎂 hoping to get its terp on a female . Got four clones aswell 😂😂 Goku Winter trainer will be the name of my cultivar 🙌🏼🙏🏼

[@snowliferwb]

I have been on a 2 year OG kush pheno hunt 😂 im really picky and from sfv area, i have been growing since the 1900s 😂 had most of the popular OG cuts with that said, most seeds i have found only produce watered down muddled OG genetics. Even as rosin you can only faintly tell there is any OG or sour hidden in there hopefully shabuds 707 og kush has the secret sauce. Popped 56 seeds 2 days ago...about to be a proud new dad. 😂

[@dylanalvis5947]

@@snowliferwb karma genetics just dropped his new og line. Guaranteed to be fire in there. Humboldt seed company emerald fire og is also insane

[@snowliferwb]

@dylanalvis5947 i think I'm gunna find her here in shabuds seeds. About to flip them into flower now

[@BluGuyMyco]

@@snowliferwb if you can catch TK S1’s from Caleb (CSI Humboldt) I swear to god, it’s there. That’s where I found my cut 💯

[@00wop80]

We're going with "Traditional market" or "Pre-licensed" here in NY lol

[@metasamsara]

Dude when you look at food retail cultivars they like copyright genetics it's insanely ridiculous like you're not even allowed to clone or harvest seeds of the plants you buy and grow. i totally agree with everything that's public is open source. take ownership and responsibility for what you put out there, if everyone was that way, we would have a lot less abuse and private property in the process and more equality and respect.

[@weedmanculture]

Manitoba is fighting and QUEBEC has NO right

[@justinmoore4296]

Going to do my 1st pheno hunt with chill out og

[@CExpress420]

I can't wait to pheno hunt it!

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Nice! I hope you find something good 🌲🌲🌲

[@deetsnot3745]

Hi , I heard you talking about kelptastic and I just got some . I can't remember exactly how you use it on your plants . I have autos (growdots and recharge as prescribed)and have started bloom, do I mix with water? Ratio? & the amount Or top dress? & amount ? And how often do I apply ? I'm growing in hp 10% coco and 3 cups of extra perlite / 5 gallon fabric planters. I like your educational , no b.s. show

[@fourtysix4646]

I can’t find a way to get stash blend here in Canada… any idea on when it will be available here?

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Not yet available but we are working on it. Very long process.

[@CExpress420]

There is so.ethi g with the labling going on, it needs to be in French and English. They talked about it on an FTS episode I believe

[@2alawabidingcitzen]

Hawaiian punch bottles to be specific

[@metasamsara]

dude speaking of small container pots, I started with autos in 5L pots and it was definitely the bottleneck on my yield at first, but it had the benefit to finish the grow quickly. i upgraded all the way to 20L pots and it helped for yield a lot. Wondering if going 30L 1 pot in my 2x2 would be ideal. Now I went back to tiny pots though because I want to try keeping a bonsai mother of all the plants I grow. I have been going crazy on training fun shapes with bonsai wire on all my plants lately lol i broke so many stems and stunted my plants a lot, but for mother bonsai it's a feature not a bug to grow slowly. however, I shocked my mother cannabis plant when i transferred it from solo cup to bonsai pot with store bought bonsai mix. I hope it will recover, but I wonder if keeping my normal soil wouldn't have been better, at least until the plant establishes bonsai pot roots? I would love it if you bring a cannabonsai expert grower if there is a good one who would come on your podcast ^^

[@markasmaclean420]

I don’t know how to choose a plant before it flower I just have to take clones of random shit or keep a make less than 12 inches and let it pollinate the lower buds ( or I’ll try that this time)

[@CExpress420]

I normally try to keep enough room to get at least one clone from everything and then choose from the flowering mothers what to keep and what to remove. It's a lengthy process, but it's worth it in the end.

[@alphaomega8373]

@39:30 I swear by this!

[@FarmerBrown420]

I have had my best bud come.from plants that's a pain in a$$ to grow

[@CExpress420]

Same here man. It's super bitter sweet.

[@Aotearoa.]

💯👍

[@youngdec850]

Mr. Boofman is the homie

[@Southern_Grown_Organics]

15 plant max here in Washington?

[@CExpress420]

@@Southern_Grown_Organics I'd love that. I think 30 to 60 would be a great range.

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

I wonder how many people worry about plant çount do they knock on doors when power bills go up i dont have legal weed in Australia yet it will come to us one day i dont know when ive been waiting 50 years i will be dead from old age before it happens but good on governments that have realised we are not criminals

[@Paulenchucker]

It’s a 500 dollar fine for growing more than 6 plants in Cali. Why wouldn’t I grow more than 6 plants? Six plants ain’t a pheno hunt.

[@jjjjjasonjjjjjackson]

When will Cannabis enforcement be over?

[@woodchipgardens9084]

Restrictions are suppose to limit supply but thats not whats happening with plant counting.

[@CExpress420]

Yeah,because you can just grow huge plants. Lmao. All its doing is making it harder to make alot fast, or pheno hunting.

[@GregDunne-zf2ep]

When breeding the male you use is very important don't just use any male if you want to breed quality love the show

[@MrSeney1]

And in Quebec no plants are allowed...even though it is a federal law, the provinces can have their say

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Damn that’s rough!

[@laithharrington4461]

I have a legal plant limit of 5. The plant count is one of the least logical laws to exist.I just want to breed. I could easily grow 8 lbs off 5 plants outdoors with good genetics. Indoors i could grow 16 plants in a 4x4 and be very lucky to get 2 lbs. My point being why am i not allowed to grow many small plants to find the good genetics. My state only allows medicle grows, but it's hard to make good medicine if your sample size is microscopic. I would like to see the law shift in favor of being amounts deemed reasonably consumable or if they must have a physical metric somthing more like commercial grows with canopy space with more for outdoor grows due to them only getting one grow per year and since 1 plant could easily surpass the size of an entire indoor setup

[@mrchewbacahimself7807]

"I don't respect certifications" is an absolutely wild thing to say as someone with so little experience.

[@CExpress420]

@mrchewbacahimself7807 it's not so much that I "don't respect it" as much as I don't thing an "organic certification" is necessary. Especially if the developing scientists qualify it as organic. I'm not too worried about it personally. Especially since I grow primarily mineral based anyway.

[@Primal_Primat3]

Small pots are fine for small plant, hell you can even use them for "bigger" plants, but its going to be a nightmare with watering them. Right now I run roughly 36 plants under a 600w light in a 1m cubed give or take, 2 batches of 18 in a perpetual grow system, basiclly a SOG grow tbh. The most important thing is you have to trim like the bottom half of the plant and be ontop of deofliation, however once you work out the kinks, no other system will fill a space as quickly with top tier buds. Basically just a room full of smaller plants with just lots of top nugs.

[@BudgetNugs]

Weakest plant has better flowers in my experience as well.

[@CExpress420]

Glad I'm not the only one!

[@marklawrence8488]

2nd.

[@vincentellsworth7905]

i've only seen a ratio of like 30% male

[@dankdogma.]

I buy seeds, pop them, and breed them with my best strain male. Then I pheno hunt what seeds comes out of that,.. if your seeds that you buy are already at an f3 then breeding with an outside strain will give the full spectrum of that strain to the offspring instead of degenerating,... never feno hunt with less than 40 plants. Feno hunting package seeds has been a waste of time without breeding them out of their f3 status... you don't want f4 and f2 is too wide of a range in traits...

[@CExpress420]

Alot of people don't have the option of planting 40 plants at a time. It's a spectrum, and alot of people have a lower spectrum to work with. That doesn't make pheno hunting a waste of time.

[@dankdogma.]

@@CExpress420 I am aware of all of your points, but after 30 years in the garden, pheno hunting from packages, you get 4-7 phenos... that is not hunting, but a very controlled outcome. If your plants are not bearing any medicine, they could only be pulled if someone reports you for being over on count. I still only end up with 6 plants of producing product, but I breed that too. In my area there is no law against growing biomass, unless it is for profit. Mathematically, and scientifically the higher count is far more sufficient for finding exactly what you want from that strain without accepting overburden genetic traits. So pheno hunting package seeds, is a waste of time, but pheno hunting less than 40 seeds of one strain is still fun as shizz.

[@djb8816]

That ain’t gonna get it, just several beans? 10 pack?

[@angfabiani4284]

Your max count is 12 IF you live 25 miles from a dispensary right ?

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

No, if you have a medical card and you’re grandfathered into the program

[@bryanhayes67]

Great video ,and I agree CE420 channel gives good advice under appreciated and love stash Love this grow community And how it's helped me so much with my grows 🪴🔥💨😎🤙

[@CExpress420]

@bryanhayes67 I appreciate the positivity, man!