The Best & Worst of Analog Horror: GREYLOCK vs UrbanSPOOK - Scary vs Disturbing

[@urbanspook]

Wow, I can't wrap my head around the fact that you actually made a video talking about something I created. Even if it's not necessarily in a good light, it's still surreal to me since I've watched your content for some time. There are some things I really want to clarify: I have no idea where you've heard that I don't care about my series or that I make it only to sell shirts; that is not true. I made the first couple of episodes just for fun, but since it blew up, I really want to improve and try my hand at something new for each episode, like animation or voice acting. I age-restricted episode 6 myself since this was around the time I realized that there were a lot of kids watching my series. ''The Painter'' is intended for an 18+ audience. I had no idea that so many young people in the community were watching when I started. Also, the episode was planned out way before any controversy started, it was not a response to angry people on Twitter. Speaking of... Please don't take anything I do on Twitter seriously. A lot of people know me solely from Twitter by now, but I really only use that site to troll. I don't really care if anyone hates my work, I'm very aware that it's extreme and provocative. I get the criticism about the writing being shit. Art and music are things I've done my whole life, and they're what I mainly want to put out there with the series. I've never done writing before, and telling a story with deep lore etc was never the point. However, there's definitely more to it. There's a bunch of hidden things in the episodes, from one-frame puzzles to clues in the audio design. I even think there's stuff people still haven't found. Seeing the community come together to figure out the name of the painter was really cool. There's more there, even if it's not that deep. And while the presentation is a bit janky (mostly because English isn't my first language), it's one of my favorite aspects of the series. If I ever made a remaster of the series, I would keep all the spelling mistakes etc in. I like the camp. Lastly, hearing you say that I have talent made me really happy. Like I said, I've been enjoying your content for a long time, and I hope that I can create something that you can also enjoy in the future. Rob is a great guy, and I'm so glad to see his project grow. In fact, it might be the first analog horror series I decide to watch, thanks to how you talk about it. Say hi to Papa Meat for me. Much love.

[@kathrineici9811]

Oh yeet, dunno if this is real but mad respect if it is o7 I don’t think anything you’ve made is any worse than stuff like Lisa or Lacey. Hope you can improve your stuff in the way that you want to/build your skillset to create new stuff.

[@altedhmarsperez4231]

Alright then Mate, I'm Just Ground Dwellering Bird tho, But Yeah Sometimes Things are Things

[@Smittyangel]

I kinda want to see if this remaster is a crime series more then a gorefest

[@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8]

It's kind of funny how much people care about Twitter but wendigoons criticisms are good and you should listen to them. What's your native language?

[@gabplayplay4813]

"I really use that site to troll" alright EDP no one buyin that lmfao

[@isaacbenzing5686]

The cops not checking the pipes for a body after finding a painting titled "man in the pipes" is the most realistic thing that happens in any episode of the painter.

[@sefflikejeff1917]

I hate when people criticize how incompetent the police are in the painter It's terrifyingly realistic, one of the only semi-good writing moments of that series imo Edit: phrasing

[@steviebeevie]

My local PD is under FBI investigation for extreme negligence and incompetence of this sort 😅 they let a serial CHOMO walk free for years and when they did arrest him, he SOMEHOW escaped twice👀

[@Sockren]

@@sefflikejeff1917 i would agree if this was just a weird unexplained case thing, but if you are facing against a killer as infamous as the painter, why the hell are they not going above and beyond

[@sefflikejeff1917]

@Sockren cops aren't incompetent by choice really, but they solve/prevent shockingly little crime statistically

[@SomeOne-vf1rs]

“After 8 months the cops checked the skeleton pile to find it was full of skeletons”

[@porcelainslightlyx]

ok but the guy getting covered in candle wax in the painter may actually be one of the funniest things ive seen in a horror series its so ridiculous. like these two guys entered this dudes house with industrial amounts of hot candle wax and covered him in it along with adding a random arm from some person we dont even know. honestly incredible

[@oceaneyeskjb1123]

i've watched SO many videos about the painter and NONE of them have talked about how absurd it is. it literally became a running joke between me and a friend because it was way funnier than it was scary.

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

honestly, it was just rude of those two fellows to do that

[@pinkythreat]

Me and my friend watched all of the painter to compare it to other ARG’s and we made fun of and laughed about that for a long time

[@ArguAngels]

They robbed a craft store for the wax, then lopped off one of the cashier's arms just for good measure.

[@ijn4438]

Some Loony Toons shenanigans where they have to lift an industrial vat of wax up to the window.

[@gr11m76]

Urbanspook: Her legs and arms were cut off and stuffed into her ears and nostrils. Her eyes were gouged out and put into her mouth and her neck was twisted 360 degrees. The killer also stitched balls onto her specifically to cut them off. A photo was found titled "Doo-doo fart Lara".

[@kevinc.cucumber3697]

I used to read alot of creepypasta and 90% of it is like this

[@guwopzy]

Throw in something about a minor being involved for no reason and u got it

[@Pregatz_]

The killer then painted a picture called "cool s" with fingers place in an odd pattern

[@Dragonemperess]

😂😂😂 My sense of humor is still like a 3 year old! Doo-doo fart Lara!

[@spookysugar]

You peasants aren't made for the MASTERPIECE of horror that is The Painter. If you weren't such a FNAF-loving bully, you'd know what they found was a PAINTING named "Doo-doo fart Lara". Sure, it was in the same style as what we are expected to interpret as photographs, but it doesn't matter cuz it is SCARY and it was a PAINTING. Also, you didn't mention the 42,069 stabs, very important to the thematic of that murder 😮‍💨 /s why the ball stitching feels so on brand tho? like 💀

[@Halloweenish]

The Painter’s timeline is like a bunch of SpongeBob time cards. “Three days later.” “Four days earlier.” “Two months and three days later.”

[@KirbyIsCute]

Patrick: Can you slow down with the killings? I'm running out of time cards here! edit - or even better "Can you police hurry up and catch the criminal, I'm running out of time cards here!"

[@nova14414]

"So much later the old narrator got tired of waiting, and they had to higher a new one."

[@troin3925]

It's more like All Star Batman and Robin where we don't even know what the time is.

[@troin3925]

@@nova14414 *hire

[@bleedee4003]

​@@KirbyIsCuteso much later that the old narrator died

[@rushbiskit]

wendigoon talking about urban spook like a disappointed teacher explaining a kids potential to his parents at parent teacher conferences is everything

[@Dremire]

I remember the live stream when he was watching the painter and was like “nah”

[@reihanboo]

​@@Dremireit was also because chat was whining to wendi to stop watching it. can't fault them

[@clockworkskulliesYT]

It’s the most accurate description of the series.

[@adrianla7801]

Real “Why can’t you be more like your older brother Greylock?” vibes.

[@MozeKaliber]

​@@reihanbooyeah and he was like "if it gets any worse I'll stop it" cause it was basically just like "rape rape mutilation rape rape" with no fukin substance just pure shock value even slipknot has more substance, it's sad. It's like watching the edgy kid try and crack a joke but it's not funny it's just offensive

[@mattreevesdev]

Holy cow, thank you for saying such wonderful things about GREYLOCK!! This is a dream come true, and I am beyond thrilled you've enjoyed it so much. This is like Christmas for me. I've been such a big fan, so to hear that you're a fan of my work too is just absolutely absurd. Thank you for all you do, Wendigoon. Also, I cannot even explain to you how freaking stoked I am for your podcast with Papa Meat. You guys are legitimately making my favorite content on KZbin right now, so I seriously can't wait! P.S. Since a lot people have been wondering about the GREYLOCK "team", I'll clarify that here: Rob is the creator/writer/director/producer, and I'm the co-producer/editor, and I do most of the VFX, sound and music. Other than outsourcing people for voice acting, Rob and I are creating everything you see. Rob's the mastermind behind it all, and I help bring his vision to life. It's a very hands-on process for both of us, and each episode is a collaborative effort that involves tons of back and forth between the two of us. Hopefully that's helpful!

[@vaupen3282]

Such a great series and im excited for the next episodes

[@ataxis8951]

I hope Wendi sees as hearts this

[@razorshaptic]

🩷🩷🩷 Amazing series.

[@ThyBr0]

Yo holy crap, it’s Matt “MF” Reeves!!!!

[@Beatdoof]

This should be the comment Wendi pinned and hearted lol, shout-out to you and Rob too! Loved watching Rob videos back then!

[@PkPk-pg9bx]

Urbanspook innutshell : Her arms were cut off. Her legs were cut off. Her ears were cut off. Her tongue was cut off. Her nose was cut off. Her eyeballs were plucked out. Her eyebrows were then waxed. Her tongue was sliced open. Her hair was cut off.

[@pixeldemon6173]

That's really weird and funny - made me think of a Painter knockoff, but instead of gore it's about makeup: Her hair cut freshly, her eyes black with a thick layer of eyeliner, her mouth still glistening with fresh red lipstick - she was found in the basement, sleeping.

[@ErinOmelette]

And she got a pedicure

[@Tomi-berry]

CalebCity reference!

[@logicspock3110]

Her eyelashes were longer, but I wasn't human hair

[@dorkydragon5055]

Huh and his fursuit was... Made of ReAL CaTs!!!

[@melon7559]

I love the fact that during the Voice mimicry, the monster goes from mimicking police radio to mimicking birds chirping, it's like it's switching between similar sounds, or slipping up.

[@carterstevenson6009]

Somehow that’s more horrifying to me, it’s more rudimentary and grounded rather than an unstoppable deity; a really fascinating thing ngl

[@melon7559]

@@carterstevenson6009 I understand, it’s less something that knows what it’s mimicking, but rather knows what its mimicking sounds *like*

[@tenderandmoist5011]

Yeah and I LOVE that it mimicks the sounds almost perfectly instead of the warped distorded sounds that other type of mimics typically uses, which is like the whole point is to lure people out. Ngl this might be me being an idiot that would absolutely get got by one of these things but the first time I watched the episode I genuinely thought it *was* just the police coming to his house to arrest him for a fraction of a second until I realised why tf would the police be entering through a basement? Absolutely genius audio design, take notes Gabriel

[@JeanMarceaux]

Thoughtform caught lacking on the mimicry

[@PosterityIslesNews]

@@tenderandmoist5011 the screaming and unholy sounds didnt give it away?

[@voidd392]

I loved it when Gabriel said: "I am the Mandela County, and I'm gonna ALTERNATE your BALLS". Literal chills ,so peak.

[@glitch4010]

Wth bro😂😂😂

[@magma_fire_bagwan]

Can we stop this joke isn't funny

[@voidd392]

@@magma_fire_bagwan I'm just making fun of all the bad analogue horror series out there(mainly URBANspook).

[@Walkingwraith]

My balls were alternated you won’t even believe it

[@Bread-nx9fo]

@@magma_fire_bagwan its pretty funny

[@lizaraVR]

pure shock value in analog horror feels like the equivalent to hyperrealistic bleeding eyes in creepypasta

[@josephforjoseph]

Lol spot on comparison

[@balltoball1]

The creator's excuse is that there was never any intent to add "lore" behind any of the images, when thats not really the issue. In fact, I think the art would have been far more interesting, engaging, and impactful without any of the text or writing. I really liked the visual art that urbanspook made, but the mini stories accompanying it just made it feel cheap. THIS guy got murdered and then THIS kid got murdered and then THIS mother got MURDERED. Okay, we get it. The brutality of the text doesn't add anything to the art. Instead of letting the reader's imagination run wild when viewing the art, you get beat over the head with forced text imagery that doesn't even always make sense with the picture. Its like the DEFINITION of telling rather than showing. He's surprised theres lots of children watching the series when its formatted and written in a way that is mostly appealing to young demographics, with how it insists on revealing everything and telling you what to think.

[@Nathan_Affronti]

​@@balltoball1personally I believe that in a way boundaries should be pushed, csa and other horrid stuff could be used in media to show how evil people are but it was done well imo

[@APOCALIPTICLIZARD]

​@@Nathan_Affronti It isn't okay to sell a shirt of a painting of a CSA victim I just really want to say that. That isn't pushing a boundary for horror, it's just kind of being a shitty person.

[@deviantsemicolon618]

Red mist

[@WilhelmRillhelm]

„It isn‘t Bad, it‘s just non-good“ is a quote I wish would exist since it PERFECTLY describes a lot of the given cons.

[@ekit254]

I honestly feel like Wendi is talking to urban spooks like a disappointed father or encouraging mentor. It’s very sweet of him wanting to see him flourish even with his issues with criticism. It’s just sweet overall

[@p-__]

my farts are better than Iceberg Boy’s farts 💨

[@RealMephres]

@@p-__ i hope you'll go through the procedure of damnatio memoriae

[@0liver192]

I guess it's because Wendi is not like an annoying Internet critic who thinks everything just saturates extremely fast after watching two Episodes of a Series. He watches them to make videos? Yeah of course But he also enjoys them as a fan, He wishes for them to bring the best they can as a Series, Explore new concepts, Develop characters, Be scary for the sake of Narrative. That's why i like him

[@VultureSkins]

@@RealMephresjust report them for spam and move on :)

[@axoloodle]

i mean i guess but like using child rape as shock factor then selling an image of said shock factor on a shirt for like $40 is different from "having a flaw" honestly hope urbanspook never makes stuff again

[@RobGavagan]

Thank you so wickedly much for making a video covering GREYLOCK and giving your thoughts on it in such an in depth way. Your kind words are what help fuel us. To clarify a couple things: 1) This video contrasting the two series is interesting, because so many people in comments sections of videos oftentimes mention us both, despite how different our content is. Both have made impressions, it seems! Also, having spoken with UrbanSPOOK a number of times, I can vouch for him being a really cool, chill dude. I personally can’t wait to see what else he’s going to come out with, and I’ll be there for it. 2) The production team, as of right now, is just Matt Reeves and myself. I am the director, writer, producer, cinematographer, prop master, and handle casting voice talent, among a plethora of other things. I brought on Matt as a producer, as well, but also to help bring my visions to life through editing and with his stellar visual & special effects skillset. He’s originally a horror game dev who impressed me greatly, and I’m so thankful to have him working alongside me to really bring things to life. (You may also be able to expect video games in the future, but that’s a secret…) Some behind the scenes info that people may find interesting: ALL content uploaded to Greylock, I take and record onto an actual VHS cassette using a converter, then I loop it back to a digital file using another converter, so that everything you see has genuine VHS effects. Also, any cinematography you see has been filmed with actual analog camcorders from the 80s/90s. Any real props you see are genuine vintage items that I’ve purchased for this project (and there’s so much more of that to come lol). Anyway, TL;DR version: it’s been a ton of work, authenticity is my kink, and we’re so grateful for this video and the livestream you did. And such a MASSIVE thanks to all of you amazing Wendigoon fans who went to GREYLOCK to interact and follow along. Thank you a million times over. We’ll be seeing you soon. Things have only just begun. EDIT: Wanted to clarify that the Matt Reeves working with me is NOT the Hollywood director-totally different guy lol. Matt Reeves (who oftentimes goes by MattReevesProductions) is initially a game developer, and he has become a VFX specialist and a fantastic editor. I’ll tell him he needs to change his name if he wants to keep working for me, though. Don’t worry. Any ideas for a new name?? I’m thinking Jennifer or Tabitha. Just lemme know.

[@blob_man_guy1582]

Can’t wait to see more

[@playwonderwall]

Holy shit, the process of creating GreyLock with actual vintage production is so fascinating and super cool, I love the dedication!!! Super excited to see where the series will continue to go, I'm hooked

[@averynewtown2782]

Do you guys have ways to accept donations for the series?

[@UnderTheVeil]

So happy to see this! Rob was instrumental in giving me a kick in the ass to start making my creepy content. (We used to chat back when I was a patron on his Patreon) an I will ALWAYS be grateful for the encouragement and constructive criticism he gave me at the start. Disability has taken me away from creating for the past few years but hopefully in the next few months, I'll be back at it! I'm exhilarated to see him making something so fresh and exciting! Can't wait to see more! Sorry for rambling. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk...

[@tommyvercetti5711]

Awesome work Rob 🙌 the authentic work is what makes GREYLOCK stand out 📼 Keep at it - we'll be waiting 😱 📺

[@ethanjackson1265]

Unbelievable that wendigoon has refused to talk about the most horrifying series on KZbin, the Scrimblo Catalog

[@DarkShadow-ne3bu]

Get out lol

[@DiablaNa]

He reacted to it on stream once, idk which one unfortunately

[@Ethyn_Jackson]

That's not how you spell Ethyn

[@buttermeat6529]

It was too scary for him

[@MosesBaker-sk1wv]

What?

[@Pink-Computer]

The creature violently killing Arnold and then saying in a distorted child's voice "it's a monster" and then giggling like a possessed school girl is something that still gets a visceral reaction out of me. Voice mimicry is something that messes with me mentally, especially when the creature doing it is mimicking the sounds of people's terrifying last moments or mimicking children

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

Maybe I’m just insane but I thought it was kinda funny Like it knows it’s being an asshole and loves it. The equivalent of a villain singing “b b b b bad to the bone” in a movie

[@Jah3232]

When it copies a child, it literally crushes my heart, because using the context clues means it’s killed a child and that it does not have a soul for any person and kills with no remorse.

[@Pink-Computer]

@@Jah3232 I feel the same way. At least Greylock handled child death with tact, unlike Painter and it's stupid "fucktoy Cory" bullshit

[@Kris.G]

To me it's the abrupt silence after Arnold's scream of agony as his life is ended just like that.

[@Jah3232]

@ It’s so good though bc it isn’t like the movies where they scream in pain for a minute or two then die, it makes you think you’re in that setting as in reality, if you’ve been hurt bad enough, you just go silent. It really puts you in that “this is real” mindset, I hate it but I love it because it terrifies me

[@MeatCanyon]

they dont even know how creepy our cast will be

[@salt8044]

papa meat

[@theupperroom6567]

i'm really excited for it

[@ripperbasil1229]

Meat man

[@ssmilee8159]

Beef mountain

[@wetsocks4460]

Hey I think it'd be really funny if you drew all your characters with really big feet, idk I just think it'd be pretty cool ahah

[@RobGavagan]

BY THE WAY-this was supposed to be in my original comment, but KZbin’s comment system blows SO badly, so I’m putting it here in this separate comment… Thank you personally for the wicked crazy big heart things you said regarding my career/work outside of Greylock and the impact it’s had on you, dude. I’m very happy for your monumental success and it just blows my mind that I had ANY level of contribution to it whatsoever. I can only be thankful and humbled, because you truly are a powerfully benevolent force and deserve all the success you’ve had and all that is to surely come. I’ve walked down a lot of dark paths of uncertainty and doubt throughout the decade that my channel’s existed. So, I can’t overemphasize what hearing something like this means to me. Thank you. Truly.

[@KettleBlacktheBat]

To add on, you were my introduction to horror on KZbin as well about 10 years ago. You're one of the OG's and deserve your flowers where it's due 💜 had no clue that the reason you changed your name was because KZbin being dumb.

[@SilverGummiShark]

I second this! @@KettleBlacktheBat

[@Isus273]

666 likes lol

[@Sunking210]

I don't think you truly grasp the impact you had on not just the horror side, but the entire KZbin community as a whole! I remember watching your work many years ago and being so damn impressed by not just the quality of your videos but also the tremendous research that was put into them. Nowadays, there are a plethora of channels that are so reminiscent to your style that was done such a long time ago. Thank you for everything man and Greylock is such an amazing piece of work, I can't wait to see where it goes and then to see what comes next!

[@doom4369]

holy shit man I remember watching your seriously strange videos back in the day all those years ago, I had no idea you were behind greylock, great on you for making a kickass horror series dude, you deserve the success.

[@yaboi912]

The "Distraught at the site of her missing infant" joke was so fucking good.

[@SaltExarch]

It's such a good Wendigoon in-joke, lmao

[@d1sasteroid]

i think i missed it, timestamp ?

[@deviantsemicolon618]

​​@@d1sasteroid2:02:58

[@sypersonified]

fr like as soon as he mentions that Tiffany had possibly unalived herself, I thought, "Would you say she's...distraught at the sight of her missing infant?"

[@skyteir3280]

could you explain? i don’t think i understand the joke

[@Demmon98]

The, "It's a monster!" followed by the happy giggling of what is most likely a 3 year old child wiped me out emotionally when I watched that episode. I have a 2 year old who would 100% do this in the situation. The Horror of that moment is perfect.

[@duck7445]

That part was actually horrifying

[@jupitersnoot4915]

Its so dark and morbid. Because its pretty clear that those were that child's last words before they were horrifically killed by whatever that creature is...

[@gregtronica3569]

horror isnt a proper noun

[@marketgardennn]

@@gregtronica3569we got a geek in chat

[@leviathanxyzzy4993]

No seriously it’s horrifying. A kid I babysit makes monsters and she scared the ever loving fk outta me when I first saw her drawings and she proudly proclaimed “He’s my monster!” Like great I’m going to be the leading actress of a horror movie 😂 her mom let me know that she ‘just does that’ when she came home, but she could have saved me the heart attack!

[@gorbonator5008]

The phonecall from the teacher was probably the most disturbing part of the painter, even though compared to everything else in the series it was the most 'tame'. There was no heavy mutilation, sexual violence, or anything insane. It was the realism of it, combined with the amazing voice work that really sold the scene. If he focused more on things like that, it would be an amazing series

[@CreatorofSecks]

I personally find it a bit much; there's a difference between something being terrifying and something being disturbing, and this is also somewhat prevalent in Greylock as well. That might just be me though.

[@zyancuerdo1615]

@CreatorofSecks honestly get what your saying but in the context the murders were already known by the public because of the paintings of their victims being released to the public especially when they keep appearing murder after murder plus preety sure either me or you would scream our eyes out when two killers that look like a derange spongebob and Patrick bust in kill your husband brutally then drill a hole on you and leave you to die

[@fadez420]

so, about that sexual violence thing! we just gonna ignore how Cory died?

[@MelRosewood]

@@fadez420 …yes. We don’t talk about Cory..

[@suemeade2471]

​@@MelRosewood breeding mount Mary?

[@kamryn7328]

It’s gotten to the point where every time I see something remotely creepy, I need to hear Wendigoon talk about why it’s the pinnacle of art and I’m not complaining

[@justas423]

Solution: Become good at media analysis and make your own essays explaining why something is the pinnacle of art.

[@p-__]

My farts are better than Iceberg Boy’s farts 💨

[@alexvalentine5091]

@@justas423no

[@rev5943]

I love when people base their opinion by using their brain and not around some guy

[@thealarm7057]

@@rev5943 Do both, your brain is very small.

[@youknowjaye]

that Isabelle phone call was terrifying. the 911 operator felt/sounded so distant while asking the questions, which made the scene even scarier as we knew that she couldn't be saved. easily the best part of The Painter.

[@iced_]

The series has some sky-high highs and the lowest lows

[@UnderratedBurnyBadger]

Agreed. Reminded me of the Ruth Price phone call. Same level of guttural fear in her voice. The actress was phenomenal.

[@ab-jg1ji]

@@iced_ thats... actually a good description of the series lol. its sad that the only story in this series is just shock value and nothing else

[@AndyMcKeeFanForLife]

The actress with that power drill going on... Goddammit I was not ready for that.

[@NihilistCoomerLord]

It’s because there was genuine build up as the dude got closer and closer to breaking the door down. I think the painter could be good, it just needs more suspense.

[@kurarensu7954]

"A body was found inside a mason jar" "It was the body of the missing Angela Cummington" "She was missing for 5 quadrillion weeks" "She was stabbed, lacerated, and shot at the vagina 6 million times" "She was only .0000000000000000000000001 years old 😢"

[@Potato_1108]

She was also alive while being stabbed and shot

[@dannymorales5549]

​@@Potato_1108And when found she was alive and surprisingly she heard the killers name, she whent "His name is... ah" she died because the killer set a triggered wax poison in her body that would kill her if she talked to the police.

[@Potato_1108]

@@dannymorales5549 lol

[@Kalamarij]

​@@dannymorales5549bites the dust reference

[@dannymorales5549]

@@Kalamarij That was completely accidental btw but Ima take it anyway

[@Bread-nx9fo]

Urbanspook is literally "Once upon a time there was an ugly barnacle, he was so ugly everyone died, the end"

[@lt0295]

@@DErantingfishhere let me try an equally as-good argument: No u.

[@p-__]

my farts are better than Iceberg Boy’s farts 💨

[@gogodogodo3283]

The start of it sounds a lot like fallout's pickman

[@llewelynshingler2173]

Literally, it's "There was a serial killer who was sick and awful and unstoppable, get scared!".

[@FourProngedFork]

@@DErantingfishlmaooo your feelings got hurt so bad you unsubscribed because you cant stand someone having a different opinion

[@Ambrosia23]

Urbanspooks habit for ripping the arms and legs off reminds me of that video that’s like “her legs were cut off, her arms were cut off.”

[@ITSTIMETOSAYGOODBYE]

bro really played resident evil 7 but played the chainsaw and also the shovel part over 40 times

[@Vileplume87]

@@ITSTIMETOSAYGOODBYE nah, bro just got all S endings in Fear and Hunger

[@ITSTIMETOSAYGOODBYE]

@@Vileplume87no bro got jeffrey dahmer'd

[@CrowThing]

​@@Vileplume87tried to*

[@hanselbarlowe2575]

Which video is legs cut off, arms cut off?

[@blackosprey2219]

The painter's problem is that it's trying to derive horror from a hypothetical serial killer, but their actions are so over-the-top that it breaks suspension of disbelief. There's just way too many victims and far too many elaborate mutilations for one not-paranormal dude to do that quickly. Execution and tastelessness could be refined and corrected, but the narrative itself would still be a little too goofy to work.

[@jackroberts2704]

They could have a few gruesome murders to set up this horrific killer, but it just keeps going and going with more edgy garbage and no clear progression. I wouldn't be surprised if they just drop the series without a conclusion.

[@manboy4720]

@@jackroberts2704 exactly how WOULD they end a series like this? it's very hard to 'end' a story that... doesn't really have a plot.

[@ricedbroccoli]

​@@manboy4720The only real ending that I could think of, is they try and fuck with the wrong old dude and catch a chest full of 00 Buckshot. Because they seem to somehow dance around and kill anyone who is legitimately investigating them.

[@kolbayada4938]

@@manboy4720 According to the creator within the comment under this very video, there's actual clues to killer's identity, so there's kinda a detective theme to the story. The question is tho, "So what"? Like, what's the point of learning the killer's name or whatever? It's not like we'll get anything valuable out of it whatsoever, there's no list of suspects so there's no pint in their names and it's not like faces of killers are ordinary for others to not suspect them from the very beginning.

[@Adr16n1122]

I'm going to be honest man. I followed the first few entries of urbanspook not because I thought it was good, but because it was so fucking bizarre. Especially with victim names like f*** toy Cory. There was never really a point where i took this story seriously, and thats its biggest problem. But then on top of that, it didn't go anywhere with the big overhanging problem of the serial killer is ultimately a supernatural being. They just treat this incredibly strong freak of nature like a normal everyday criminal. So I just sort of dropped it.

[@theboi187]

as someone who has Mt. Greylock basically in my backyard, i was HYPED to hear of an analog horror taking place there

[@torishadow0612]

"The Painter" kind of uses an "and then, and then, and then" way of storytelling that is probably the cause of why its infamous. It just tells everything and has very on the nose shock value. Its a slideshow. "And then THIS GUY died. And then they find ANOTHER dead guy! And then-"

[@jotbe99]

Still far more climatic than shitshows like mandela or carnis. Greylock tops tho.

[@ahuman5993]

It’s like that one audio, “ His arms were cut off, his legs were cut off, his ears were cut off.”

[@TiredBirb490]

It sounds like it’s written by an edgy middle schooler trying to describe the grossest/most shocking things he can think of

[@misakayy1911]

Yeah it doesnt pretend to have LE DEEP HIDDEN LORE youtuber bait. So what

[@stunted404]

​@@misakayy1911low iq

[@tnorki]

The scariest part of this analog horror series was that we absolutely didn't get to hear Wendigoon go take a piss on stream and then rant about Twitch Chat misbehaving for half an hour while having an Identity crysis with his skeleton and saying that nobody would notice if the skeleton wearing headphones and a hawaiian shirt replaced him. Truly a huge missed opportunity.

[@topazstars7734]

IM DYING

[@therabidsquid432nerf9]

What.

[@tylerpurvis5658]

@@therabidsquid432nerf9 if you missed it it’s in Wendi gang (wendis other channel) pretty sure the streams titled “watching greylock and the oldest view with the creators” or something like that it’s the most recent VOD that has greylock in the name. Wendi went to piss and somehow his mic caught the sound of him peeing and his chat went insane and then well the rest of the comment played out exactly how this guy said. Pretty funny 25 minutes tho.

[@chrissycurtis4152]

The most important part of the lore honestly and he just skipped over it

[@americankid7782]

What happens in the stream stays in the stream.

[@themecoptera9258]

“It’s a monster” in a child’s voice after that scene is legitimately terrifying.

[@SpookusMcDoofus]

I feel like with how the little girl said it there might have been another kid with her, sibling or friend, which makes it sadder

[@voidbreather7405]

@@SpookusMcDoofus It felt more like the kid was saying this to an adult.

[@dangerxbadger2300]

See I thought it was the mimic saying it because it can only use voices of people that it's killed and can only mimic things that it's already heard other people say so I took it as something that it heard before it took the child as a victim that it was repeating.

[@ArkanStrata]

@@dangerxbadger2300 yeah that's exactly it

[@themecoptera9258]

@@dangerxbadger2300 that’s my understanding as well, which implies a child saw this thing just before dying and rather than being terrified of it she just said “it’s a monster” in that innocent matter-of-fact way. It paints such a vivid scene in such an understated way.

[@anzuaoix]

Do y’all remember the “her arms were cut off, her legs were cut off” sound that went around TikTok for a bit? That’s all The Painter is sometimes. Gore for the sake of shock value.

[@RevolverOcelot358]

Another thing I feel should be a point against UrbanSpook is the disconnect between the description of the victim and the painting. UrbanSpook's descriptions of the state of the victim is so over-the-top that it becomes immersion breaking for me. I cannot take it seriously because it read like a teenage kid's first horror project where they think more gore = more disturbing = more scary. But if UrbanSpook then follows up and actually make the painting match the description somewhat, then tension, suspense, and maybe even horror can be built because now the audience is just imagining what kind of messed up painting could come from such a grisly description. I think this is how UrbanSpook intents it to be. However, the reality is the paintings are often times very tame in comparison to the description, so the grisly details becomes less 'believable' and non-essential to the overall presentation.

[@p-__]

my farts are better than Iceberg Boy’s farts 💨

[@seromniconciente8689]

I understand but wrong. If the paintings remained as over the top as they are but when you show the actual photo they just seem more normal to murder victims then maybe the killer sees it not as just murder but as… Art.. he draws his victims in way more horrific ways that he actually kills them. Of course that isn’t what the series does and it also takes me off

[@RevolverOcelot358]

@@seromniconciente8689 Right, that's a good suggestion and could also work because it would invite the audience into the deranged mind of the killer which is a fairly disturbing prospect. I think we both can agree that what brings down the The Painter is the needlessly shocking and over-the-top detail of what was done to the victim. Details that ultimately does not tie in very well to the story, to the paintings (which seems to be the focal point of the series) and, frankly speaking, done in the most juvenile manner.

[@gadellomagnollo1810]

In an alternate timeline, Urban Spook takes place in a universe where cameras were never invented and the police have a hired artist that paints the murder victims

[@seromniconciente8689]

@@RevolverOcelot358 definitely. I should’ve said something else than just “wrong” as there are many ways such art pieces can be made into a story. But oh well. Because of how urban acted on twitter I don’t have a feeling of something being lost. Just as a sad excuse of a series

[@nintonic20]

One of the main problems with "The Painter", is that characters are killed off as soon as they are introduced. This doesn't allow for someone to form a connection with the character, meaning their death loses out on most empathy. Especially since in this scenario its being described, not shown.

[@hydrix6419]

Exactly, there really is no build up to anything. Like it loses the scare factor when all it is is just "Johnson was a walmart cashier, he was found dead in his house when he didnt show up to work. His balls were found exploded, heres an image" and then proceed to show a picture of a guy with a pog face and a bloody mess in his pants. Its kind of like the writers who make family guy jokes made it, its sad.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

it feels like a series of jumpscares, not a story with interesting characters and interesting monsters

[@barbararab6390]

Yeah, other than the killers, we dont have any character that actually matters. Even the girl that was left alive, she doesnt come back. We dont know what the police is doing, who's investigating, who's even posting these tapes, we dont have anyone else other than the painter

[@nintonic20]

I'm surprised this comment took off but I am reading replies and it's nice to see people adding their own input!

[@DruidPC]

And it means the character was only written to die / get SAed. Effed up.

[@jacp5628]

I was about to go to bed but I think a quick two and a half hour deep dive into horror is going to be the best thing to do first

[@fearidescent206]

boo

[@lorin3894]

boo

[@one-nu2dh]

Do you live in the eastern part of the world? Where i live it's 19:00

[@ZetsuboNoShima]

What time is it where you are? For me it’s 1:11pm

[@thespider8782]

Crazy that he was about to go to bed at 1pm

[@skewedview9557]

That child line from the monster is the coolest most horrific thing to me. The fact that the child doesn't sound particularly scared either just hits it so much harder to me. The implications of that line along with the timing of it are perfect. I paced back and forth with chills after that scene. I was both terrified and ecstatic. Seeing such excellent use of writing and concept to deliver a piece of horror like that makes me wish the people behind projects like Greylock got more mainstream attention. Cause good God, this is horror. More of this please!

[@crispyein8601]

Something I love about Wendigoon is that even when the lore is stupid, he still takes the lore seriously and explains it as if it actually happens in real life I love it. That level of immersion makes his explanations really easy to understand and it's super entertaining.

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

Wendigoon is a gourmand of horror. The gourmand sits at any table and tastes any dish. He gives his opinion whether it was a professional chef or a home cook.

[@_enot_]

​@@Robbie-mw5uuidk why but i like how you described wendigoon's takes. Also I saw the word "gourmand" and thought you meant from rain world lmao I have brain rot fr.

[@Portfolio-Submission]

What a man, he made an almost 2 and half hour long video just to justify why he thinks alternate Gabriel is scary. Incredible work

[@addik4369]

I was just thinking about that 💀

[@JeanMarceaux]

alternate Gabriel? Just throw more coins at him

[@Ace11946]

@@JeanMarceauxsparechange%

[@BumbleGabriel]

​@@JeanMarceaux+FISTFUL OF DOLLAR

[@bigsadge747]

he truly is the iceberg boy

[@xenofes2]

I think my biggest problem with The Painter, other than the creator's actions surrounding it, is the framing device of the series. A key part of the horror in analog horror is that it feels like you're watching something that could tangibly exist in the real world. For example, Gemini Home Entertainment feels like you could be watching real VHS tapes, because the videos are formatted to resemble real documentaries and such. The Painter videos, with text followed by scary images, isn't a format that makes sense. If they're supposed to be police records of the serial killer, the format would be better off presented as recordings of police reports, press conferences about what happened, that sort of thing. Who's going around in-universe making those tapes, and for what purpose are they formatted like that?

[@izshtar]

that's what i thought too, it breaks the immersion really easily. It just looks like someone made a video on it and uploaded it on youtube back in the 2000's hahaha.

[@RipRLeeErmey]

​​@@izshtar That could've made for an amazing framing device. Imagine if, instead of old VHS tapes, UrbanSpook took the role of a superfan of a true crime series from early KZbin that never took off, reuploading his videos until he comes across some of the final videos, where the killers have tracked the original poster of these videos down and are now scoping out his house.

[@comrade4309]

THANK YOU as someone who works with law enforcement, the framing threw me off because it's such an unrealistic way of presenting this information. And yet he insisted that the tapes were made by and for law enforcement. Took me out of it by the second episode lol

[@scientificallyaccuratetyra4292]

@@RipRLeeErmey That could be a great way to reframe the series into something actually believable. The thing that is frustrating about it is that it has so much potential to be a great series, but it just falls flat.

[@flamsey]

If they are suppose to be news reports, how would family members of the deceased allow the pictures to go public?

[@ethoatom668]

Holy shit, I did not expect to be so shaken by that power-drill scene. That was genuinely gut-wrenching. I wish the rest of the series was half as good as that scene.

[@FruityPassion]

Holy shit dude, same. I couldn't sleep for a night or two because that voice acting emulates those recordings of police calls so well. The sheer terror can be felt because it is probably exactly what id do, unknown entities having already killed one of my family, drilling, with an extremely loud power drill, away my only lifeline to keep them out of the dead end I've put myself in.

[@Watch-b5r]

To add to the list of holy sh1ts, I just heard that audio and now I too will not sleep for the next 5 hours

[@ozzie8738]

@@Watch-b5rwhat's the time stamp?

[@PeopleBeingBadOnline]

What if Tiffany WAS pregnant with a real baby, but Alex's creation of a thought form baby interfered. The symbolism of conjoined twins. And then they canceled each other out lmao

[@TheCreepyLantern]

oh that's an AWESOME and utterly horrifying idea. bravo!

[@cherb008]

yo wait that’s actually so terrible wtf how’d you think of that dude. so cool tho

[@cringefailtastic]

That would also explain the visual of the grotesque fused babies that appears later on

[@fictional_player]

Just like D4C's stand ability

[@walrusArmageddon]

😦 I wasn't mentally prepared for that gnarly theory

[@garetpeyton6787]

Imagine if instead of "pictures" UrbanSpook implied they were artist renditions because the original image was too graphic.

[@croissantsareaustrianactually]

Your idea sounds like it would be really cool and work

[@Mitchisable]

Are they not artist renditions already of the murders? I thought that was the point with a killer being a painter

[@avidee4300]

@@Mitchisablethey are supposed to be that… but some of them are described as photos from a camera. As mentioned in the video, this takes away from the whole “artist vibe” and make it feel kinda just like… ‘oh, ok I guess’

[@Mitchisable]

​@@avidee4300Ah I gotchu

[@mileskile9520]

My idea was that the photos of the killer all look different. Making you wonder about how that’s possible and then later revealing the faces of a lot of victims look like the photos of him so it’s like a skinwalker or something.

[@lilchipps999]

Dude, the scene in the closet with the police officer and the child laughing is one of the greatest moments in analog/internet horror. It's both terrifying and brilliant.

[@newphon3-v3s]

No it ain’t bro

[@p0purlerm0bs60]

@@newphon3-v3s womp womp

[@estrelladelmar89]

​@@newphon3-v3stake your xbox ass name outta here

[@sorryoutlandish]

100% agree. one of the strongest scares i’ve seen in analog/digital horror. the build-up was utterly insane

[@BeavisLover7]

The Painter is just too graphic in the sense that it doesn’t leave anything to the imagination. You can only hear about somebody having their hands or legs cut off so many times before you begin to roll your eyes. It loses any creepiness it could’ve had. The artwork is also of similar quality to the photos, which takes the charm away completely. Are the paintings photo realistic in this world, or are they stylistic pieces of art? At least the long haired killer is somewhat attractive. The part of Greylock where a child says ‘it’s a monster!’ And laughing Is actually heartbreaking. That’s such a good way to imply a child’s death. It’s not explicit or gory, it’s quite the opposite, but the implication is there and clear. Incredibly well done.

[@Michael-eb8nf]

The example of a tulpa haunting a house because a bunch of people believed it was haunted is literally the plot of an early Supernatural episode. Was always intrugied by the concept.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

The X-Files episode where they were on Cops is sort of the same thing.

[@claressadubs]

It's also a theory to explain the irl notorious dybbuk box, proposed by a couple of investigators who kind of accidentally helped popularize it. If you're interested they lay it out in detail on the Haunted Objects podcast here on youtube. Such a great spooky idea!

[@slyfox7452]

Isnt there a show about people with mental issues being attacked because they view the monster as a savior

[@kodarpy]

what’s cool about the mimicry in greylocke is the concept that the creature is SMART. In other mimicry horrors like the Mandela Catalogue, the creatures just kind of say random things in people’s voices because they’re learning in real time. However in Greylocke the creature uses exact sentences and things that impact the scene which gives way to how old these creatures are and how long they’ve been on the planet among people.

[@manboy4720]

how long they have been on the planet among us.

[@jackroberts2704]

I'm a fan of Mandela Catalog, but I think the audio work for Greylock is much creepier.

[@alienfromlhs1140b]

@@manboy4720DAMMIT

[@v3nik287]

(SPOILERS FOR MANDELA CATALOGUE) I like the sentiment of this comment as I love and enjoy both series, but creatures in Mandela Catalogue ARE smart, especially later on. They do the most effective and torturous thing to a person. And that dialogue with Thatcher, when the alternate tortures him with voices of victims Thatcher knows... And then morphs into him, calling off reinforcements... These are actions of imo cruel and smart killer!

[@barbararab6390]

Fr. The creatures in Greylock KNOW what phrases can get ppl to come to them. They didn't just throw the police line at random, they know humans would listen to a police officer

[@guidomista9565]

Honestly i love the idea of the painter. Its biggest problem is that it has barely any progression besides "dead person and painting is found" I think a remake could help it alot, mabye have the story follow a police detective trying to find the painter while he documents his thoughts and findings on the case so then we get actual character moments and not just the deaths and paintings.

[@grumboflipflorp5688]

The two pieces of advice I could give from an outsider looking in is 1. Dial back the rate of murders, focus in on the police side of things a little more so that the killers don't feel immortal 2. Chill the fuck out.

[@isdrnguerrerobadilla]

I describe the painter as "A lot going on but nothing is happening"

[@thesmilingman5621]

​@@grumboflipflorp5688you expect horrors to be chill, eh?!

[@grumboflipflorp5688]

@@thesmilingman5621 I expect the writer to have some fucking balls and take criticism on the chin instead of freaking out and writing murder by horse rape into the story

[@thunderspark1536]

​@@thesmilingman5621Chilling out a little does wonders. ESPECIALLY with serious subject matters, you want to approach it carefully rather than with a scream.

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

The place The Painter lost me was the detective episode, not the kids. A lot of the time with serial killer horror, the victims kinda get lost once the media starts to focus on the killer as a character. The obvious example being Hannibal Lecter, but even a movie like Seven becomes more of a character drama once John Doe walks into the station. You don't forget what was done to that point, but the performances take over and the fact the victims were never really characters lets consideration for them kinda slip away and be replaced by entertainment from watching the story. In a good series, the episode with the kids would have been going straight for the jugular with a uniquely evil thing for a fictional serial killer. Even though the kids are just as fictional as the victims in other horror stories, the things the Painter did firmly cement them as an unmitigated monster that no amount of "rule of cool" from the real life artist's paintings could ever wash off. He'd just be this vile, evil creature below contempt that would have evoked a new kind of emotion for Analog Horror: anger. The series could have progressed to an actual climax of the killer being caught, and been remembered quite well as a medium-short story of a truly revolting, and most horrifyingly of all, realistic kind of evil actually being defeated, unlike how most Analog Horror tends to cliffhang. But when the detective episode came out with the goofy wax murder and starting the degeneration of the killer into a pseudo-supernatural "OC Donut Steel" thing, it cheapened the vileness of the previous videos with typical internet edgelord stuff that ruined any chance of taking it seriously.

[@Subterranean_sebastian]

This is so masterfully put! I agree completely as the story did have potential, it had good aspects in it, but the downfall of someone clearly letting some people not liking his stuff getting into his head, we could have had a awesome story that told a horrific story just about horrific people and how their actions effected their victims and their victims families.

[@colers2366]

My feeling on the Painter was that it was simply too eager. It wasn't patient enough, it seemed to be focused to get as much of the paintings out into the view as possible. And the funny thing is, that he had the right idea; in the first episode he first shows an autopsy diagram showing the facial injuries; build up with reality and then hit them with the surrealist painting. Give fear and dread a moment to build up, let our own minds paint a picture and then try to nail it with the eventual delivery of the painting. The worst thing he can probably do is the slideshow of "yo look at these paintings they found" which then are utterly unrelated to the preamble

[@alyzsnyzs4701]

This is a great way of putting it. I really really enjoy a lot of the ideas of the painter, and some of the scenes in it are excellent. I just simply think urbanspook didn't let the story age enough in their mind to really connect and build an elegant plot.

[@dankerbell]

yeah i feel like any one of those paintings could be a terrifying image that sticks with me for forever like the false prophet or gabriel or whatever if it was any one of them at once, but multiple of them in a video across a multiple episode series means hardly any of them are memorable and blend together, doesn't help that you have multiple scary faces of the same killer so you can start to build a clear picture of their face in your mind which is not only scary in and of itself, but the killer is still a mostly regular looking human so it's just not that bad

[@dankerbell]

there are multiple of the tall guy but that's still pretty spread out and whatever it is isn't human which helps it

[@Acesspaded]

Yeah you’re pretty spot on. The idea is fricking cool, but the execution wasn’t done the best.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Yup. Classic newbie mistake. If he ever does this again, he'll probably do better. Apparently, he's ESL.

[@perknsmerch4824]

Wendigoon is so humble and you can tell because he ends each video with 5 minutes of constant “thanks yous” like he’s still amazed his videos get love and support. He’s a real one, that Wendigoon.

[@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8]

Is this sarcasm

[@DarlingMissDarling]

@@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8 you ok?

[@PonyBoy1776]

Wendigoon cool and all but y'all dick ride too much

[@Three_Sevens]

​@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8 with anyone else I would think it's sarcasm too. But he really is a good guy...lol.. it's rare nowadays.

[@spawn302]

My God-fearing king😊

[@thebrickdoc5543]

27:05 ok now we need a 5 hour video dissecting the entire lore, history, and cultural importance of The Scriggly Man

[@KM-hv1jg]

“Number 15: the Scriggly Man. The Scriggly Man first made his appearance in the Skrunkly Scramblers Saga.”

[@TheRealRuss420]

"Now, whats truly terrifying about The Squiggly Man is how its face always happens to be off-screen as we only hear how the victims have reacted to it. And I, personally, am in LOVE with this! It's SO clever-"

[@d00gz_]

It’s a real shame about The Painter because the concept of a serial killer creating portraits out of his victims demise sounds like a really cool way to create tension and horror. Imagine if instead of the brutality of the murders being fully described as they are, the only thing the audience is given is the painting. The painting would be the murder through the eyes of the killer, and the implications of the imagery in the art would make the viewer’s mind race about what could’ve happened to the victim for their depiction in the painting to be accurate. Unfound victims would be even more intriguing, as it could relate to something grander going on. Meanwhile, the unfolding story of who the killer themselves are would be happening in the background. Like Wendigoon said, the essence of horror isn’t just showing the viewer something scary, but showing them something unnerving and eluding to something much scarier without showing it, leaving a lasting impression by filling their heads with questions that may never be answered. The Painter has potential to use that kind of storytelling, but it doesn’t, which is extremely frustrating.

[@crystalbutterfly2997]

Really hope someone picks up this idea and does it justice!

[@dakotaeast4126]

I mentioned in my own comment, but I really feel like The Painter could have been something great if Urban had worked with a writer. He's clearly a talented visual and audio artist, but he needs support in the writing

[@electricbayonet2]

A serial killer who, knowingly or not, is leaving behind clues and puzzles for both the police and audience in his artistic depictions of his kills sounds like an amazing premise. You can do a lot with that. Like, if the police find an unfinished painting with no links to any known victims, what would that mean? Is there a body they haven’t discovered yet? Does the killer make the paintings before actually taking the victim’s life? Was it left in this location to be found, or did the police come so close to the actual killer that he couldn’t collect his newest painting without risking capture? It’s certainly better than ‘the family of five was found impaled anus-first on the blades of a spinning ceiling fan while the house’s stereo system played a loop of ‘Space Jam.’

[@piclebob]

i like how wendigoon tells me to watch the series before this video to not have my experience ruined like i am not a pathetic coward that has not and doesnt wish to ever watch anything related to horror media without it being a handsome man explaining it to me

[@druidplayz2313]

Yea same

[@evapunk522]

Yeah, I do that a lot lol. I'm always interested in horror, but if it's good...I am scared of getting affected by it too much lol. Hence why I watched The Painter because it didn't actually sound scary, but it was kinda disturbing..but more in a "watching a documentary about serial killers" kind of thing lol.

[@themoocow7718]

It’s me. I couldn’t play horror games, but I love hearing the story.

[@thetinykid4169]

Yeah, I like the stories and stuff but I think for some people that extra degree of separation is helpful. I was still scared by the drill scene and the scene where anthropologist is killed by the monster. I think actually being immersed in the story would be a bit too scary for me. Well, maybe not the painter but greylock definitely. Its like the kiddie pool vs. deep end for horror enjoyers.

[@namesinthesand6]

so real

[@Perdix64]

I think the scariest thing to me was when the thing said, “It’s a monster!” actually sent chills down my spine.

[@JMichaelG]

yep, followed by the little giggle. It was a great insight into how the monster thinks, literally mocking its victims afterward.

[@violettbellerose1173]

Skinamarink flashbacks

[@awormbitme]

​@@JMichaelGthat's exactly what I was thinking, so unsettling. Like it didn't need to say anything since the guy is dead, it really is like it's mocking the victims

[@kyallon1213]

Especially because nobody was around to hear it. Like it just did that for no reason, almost like it’s celebrating its own monstrosity

[@VoxelMusic]

And then it monstered all over him

[@collinmclaren6608]

1:42:19 THAT RIGHT THERE is a perfect contrast with Urbanspook. Here, it's the 'implication' that the monster has probably killed some helpless child. Meanwhile in The Painter, he just bluntly describes infanticide.

[@JHaru777]

Exactly. Nothing beats the horror of what a person imagines based on what little they're given.

[@AllTheOthers]

Finally I can understand a valid descriptor as to why people don't like / don't understand The Painter. I agree. Imply what happened, don't blatantly describe it. As an Urb fan I agree with what you said entirely, and I can understand why people don't like it. Not all of us were on the internet from 2007 onward and not all of us know reality to its fullest. Some of us still don't know what goes on outside of our view.

[@badhost]

@@AllTheOthersCould you please explain what you meant by the last two or so sentences? I’m trying to understand your point

[@Dampzombieslayer]

@@badhostEarly internet was full of gore and shock sites and newer netizens don’t see the ugly side of the world as much

[@voidbreather7405]

@@Dampzombieslayer Yep, exactly this. This story feels like it was written by an edgy 14 y.o. that would be watching LiveLeak-type gore videos on the reg, if the site were still around.

[@thebigbreh_]

the seven "survivors" gave me hella seven deadly sins sort of vibes, in a metaphorical way. like each survivor became some manifestation of parts of this entities evil, or each became a manifestation of different evil entities that are involved in this whole debacle. It also makes me think of the seven plagues, once again a symbolic way of showing punishment for human hubris.

[@Hazeljv3]

You made a really good point about the "scary face problem"! The images are effectively uncanny when they are actual paintings because they are representations of how the serial killer sees the world/other people - something about this person's mind is so broken or corrupted that they see everything as horrifically distorted. But if the scary faces are presented as just being photographs of the way the victims look and there is no reason for them to appear so inhuman, it kind of negates the uncanny and abject horror of the image and just reduces it to a cheap scare. It is no longer "the familiar made unfamiliar" through the point of view of this killer and there is no longer any question of how a human face could become so horrifically twisted (literally or through a distorted POV), because apparently this is just how people look in The Painter's universe. And that's kind of lame tbh.

[@gwencatz2483]

UrbanSPOOK feels like someone who just really, *really* likes Se7en but misses the point of why the head in the box was never actually shown.

[@liaspooked4980]

You put it really well, actually. I bet that if UrbanSPOOK remade Se7en, he would have focused on the severed head in detail to an absurd degree, never understanding that the horror of the original scene does not stem from the gore, but from all the emotions related to the situation. Again, it's the humanity in these situations that makes them visceral, and the gore may be sprinkled in to amplify it, but should not be the main course if you want something that is going to stick with the audience for a long time.

[@supersaraqxz548]

I haven't see the video yet but from what you say I understand it completely. It also reminds me of Jaws and how it builds tension and terror all throughout the movie without showing anything! In fact, Bruce the shark doesn't even show up until the 2 hour round mark. And by the time you see him you've never really seen him kill anyone, it's mainly off screen and that's what makes it so good. Like Se7en and the box.

[@barbararab6390]

Yeah, I mean, the creative murders are cool and all, but what made Se7en amazing was the ending. The implications based on the emotion of the protagonist, and the end proving that the killer won.

[@sypersonified]

what's in the BAAAAAAXXXXX

[@autumnblizzard]

What's Se7en??

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

Thank you so much for covering GREYLOCK! It’s one of the best documentaries on average Massachusetts life I’ve ever seen

[@cameronbailey4046]

LMFAO underrated comment

[@eIIedritch]

any tips for basement security? my reinforcements are starting to come undone again and i’m getting really sick of buying new nails every week to keep those damn things inside

[@Gay_Luigi]

greylock isn’t analog horror, berkshire county is just like that

[@ashikjaman1940]

Nah, if this series were realistic then the second video would have ended with the car crashing before even getting up the mountain

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

Do you keep tulpas as pets? If they're so scary, why are they friend shaped then

[@doctor.shrimp.puerto.rico0]

i feel like one that gets overlooked is definitely marble hornets, they were the first people to ever introduce "slenderman" and i think no one talks about how good it is as much as they could

[@thecrustyargonianmaid]

They were the first to do it in an found video format. Slender man isn't their creation, but boy did they jump on it FAST. Marble hornet's came out a few weeks or months after the original conception ,which is pretty Insane and admirable

[@doctor.shrimp.puerto.rico0]

@@thecrustyargonianmaid ahhh ok fair enough i didnt know about that, thank you for letting me know

[@ripleymason8801]

Marble hornets mentioned!! The reason why I love horror!! Yippee!!

[@EnjoyThatCookie]

The marble hornets guys were the grandfathers of analog horror and I followed them on tumblr after. It was sad to see how much they grew to hate the genre bc annoying kids kept pretending like it was real and harassing them.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@thecrustyargonianmaidApparently their creature wasn’t even Slenderman, it was a totally different thing

[@JrWyze]

The painter was literally seven episodes of: "After Ben Dovers mysterious disappearance 6 days ago, his car was found three days ago which lead to his discovery 4 days ago. He was stabbed 69,420 times, had his head and ripped off, his chest torn open and his heart replaced with his cock.". Like fuck it just gets broing after hours of person goes missing person found horribly murdered.

[@Civiicendi]

"His heart replaced with his cock" that made me actually laugh, thank you 👏

[@JrWyze]

Hey idk if anyone will see this but YT won't let me respond to urban spooks comment so I'll do it here cause I NEED to rant about this. First of all he did say that the only point of the series was to promote his stupid shirts which implies that he doesn't care about the series. Second, yeah SURE you DEFINITELY weren't having a baby meltdown on twitter and were just trolling. 100 percent I believe you for sure buddy. Now lots pretend for a moment that you actually WERE trolling, if I'm being honest that wouldn't make your case any better cause now not only are you ashit writer and director your now a shit writer and director that responds to mostly honest criticism with shitposts and bate. Fuck I'm just so annoyed by that bullshit and I hope he knows that this video doesn't paint him in a light that should make him proud to have been in a Wendigoon vid.

[@peepeepoopoo7734]

"He was then fucked to death by a horse. A painting titled Mr. Hands was found next to his body."

[@themagician8801]

I feel like it gets too disturbing as well where it’s not scary it just makes you uncomfortable where you’re like “man I don’t wanna hear this” and then it gets repetitive where you’re like “wow who knew sally who had a twin would get sewn to her other twin” just repetitive

[@carmencorona8477]

@@themagician8801couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@cheetogrape25]

Say what you will about The Painter, but that 911 call is goddamn horrifying. To be able to create something that terrifying is amazing, and his talent clearly shines through in that. I hope we see more of it.

[@RaraZeCat]

Urban spook may not be a good writer But damn does he know how to do art and Technical work…

[@obesekaren]

i was watching this video while i was getting ready for school and after that part i just had to pause and think about what i just heard i was SHOOK. It sounded so real and the feeling of dread and horror you feel for this victim is just surreal

[@dusk4974]

Haven't heard it

[@Heavysweating]

The way the drill goes from background noise to blocking out the death gurgles of the woman, to end the whole thing in complete silence was horrific

[@IAmIn_Constant_Confusion]

I honestly think he just needs help with writing, like get someone to proof read his writing or get advice from well known creators, dudes got potential, just needs to learn how to use it.

[@CheeseYourself]

1:04:20 i am in love with the way Wendigoon describes extremely gruesome situations: "so the child that was once inside of mom, was... forcefully... no longer inside of mom"

[@bipolitthefighter2599]

That's just being a coward

[@NoThought_HeadEmpty]

​@@bipolitthefighter2599 *to avoid KZbin goofy guideline bot trigger.

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

​​@@bipolitthefighter2599u describe it then big boy

[@Gitsenberg]

​@@lolstuffenjoy9880fetus was violently removed from the mother's womb with a chainsaw. They call me Ethan Hunt because I solved an impossible mission

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

@@Gitsenberg edgy

[@rebekahtu3329]

It’s interesting that the head scientist mentions themes from the Tower of Babel, while the highest mountain in Massachusetts supposedly has every kind of language under it.

[@vitoc8454]

It sounds very Lovecraftian; ancient humans worshipping an unknown being in a time far, FAR earlier than the histories and cultures we're aware of.

[@JeanMarceaux]

What goes over everyone's head: Babel is located in current day Massachusetts

[@Struckjess]

​@@JeanMarceauxassuming this thing is Yadaboloth or another Malicious Deceiver God it would likely be able to fuck with time, from there assuming that The Tower of Babel was on pangea and thus spoke of most in Mesopotamia most only due ro them being the only ones faintly aware of what happened before pangea split which could have occured the last time this thing woke up.

[@gabbyn.3049]

@@JeanMarceaux wat

[@onedumbgamer9672]

One of my favorite stream moments from the Greylock watch was definitely Tiffany's babu disappearing and wendigoon, dumbfounded, saying, "The baby... left????"

[@noahhamilton9004]

He just packed a bag and went home!

[@cherenkov_blue]

My favorite was w e n d i p i s s

[@Brave_SJ]

He had an appointment to keep and couldn't stay, please understand

[@burritomensch1257]

@@cherenkov_blue_"God knows what you did!"_

[@Brumsly]

I’m gonna call babies “babus” from now on and claim it’s part of my culture.

[@redspiderlilys6]

I love how Wendigoon’s critiques heavily emphasize that people are allowed to enjoy things even if he doesn’t. It’s very refreshing.

[@giant.stephs]

The phone call scene genuinely scared me. I love analog horror and I've always been creeped out by it, but its never given be actual genuine terror like that did. Whoever Isabells voice actor was deserves a lot of praise, that was phenomenal

[@pocketsizedviking4555]

same here lmao my paranoid ass should NOT have been watching this at night

[@SpookieD00kie]

​@@pocketsizedviking4555Ha yea 100% same. Watched it at work during a night shift and it shit me up

[@TheAbigailDee]

I agree it was a very high point in the series. I love to see creators taking feedback and changing up styles. It's how people grow!

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Regardless of the shock value of the series, the 911 call pretty much stands out the most.

[@Grassdragon193]

Oh yeah, the phone call is possibly the most terrifying bit of analog horror I've seen. It sounds like some vast industrial machine is being used to break into the room, and then used *on her*. You can hear the panic and fear in her voice.

[@raccoon99]

Honestly, what I genuinely like about Wendigo is the way he criticises these works WITHOUT the biased commentary and I love it.

[@luchoney5868]

The "It's a monster" line actually sent shivers up my spine. That was f*cking horrific

[@ohlookaflower.5961]

That whole sequence leading the the jumpscare ruined me.

[@Undergamer12]

That's the type of horror that if I was younger would keep me up at night. As a big brother I remenber when my brother was still pretty young and talked like that, the horror of him encountering a monster and get killed would probably be devastating.

[@TheSlammurai]

It is horrifying but in my opinion the monster mimicking the police was even worse.

[@KM-hv1jg]

Once I realized what it meant, I wanted to cry. :(

[@tropicturtle9021]

@@TheSlammuraihonestly the monster mimicking the kid is more tragic than scary to me, because the obvious implication is this monster murder an innocent child.

[@emilycarey7667]

Wendigoon: “I feel unappreciative” Also Wendigoon: Genuinely the most appreciative and consistently humble and sincere KZbinr, nay, celebrity, I’ve personally come across

[@TayTayMakesBeats]

Love Wendigoon. He's such a wholesome online personality. He's also really great representation for religious people, especially Christians on KZbin. I was raised Catholic and although I am no longer religious and haven't been since I was 14 I was lucky to have been brought up in a very loving, accepting church that took Christ's message seriously. To this day I still look to Jesus for guidance in the same way as the Buddha or less religious inspirational historical figures. The internet and post-2016 politics have pushed that kind of Christianity to the margins, while hate preachers and grifters who only care about the bible insofar as they can twist it to their gain. People like Wendigoon is not only the chillest dude ever while happening to be a Christian, he conducts legit bible study. He's the real deal. Idk it's not like it's a high bar but regardless I think it's cool that kids who might grow up in more toxic religious environments might stumble upon Wendigoon and find a new, healthier perspective as well as a positive role model. Other non-religious people who've become jaded with religion after seeing so many high profile bible thumpers advocate against the love, tolerance and generosity of Jesus in favor of blind hate and greed may see Wendigoon and realize how many Christians are just regular ass people. Wendigoon isn't alone in that regard but both in terms of religion and otherwise I really appreciate the positivity he brings, we need more people like him in general. Even in a video where he's critiquing a work that many have trashed he's doing it in a positive and constructive way. I know I'm not alone in being unhealthily predisposed to negativity and the desire to tear things apart and it's a habit I'd like to overcome. I know it's just a horror themed KZbin channel but watching Wendigoon actually makes me want to better myself, he's a legit role model.

[@Hunts4luv]

“Nay” lol

[@megami7373]

praying he sees this

[@NevaehCyanide]

Iceberg man is Goat.

[@KevinHernandez-kp6dx]

@@Hunts4luv😊😅😊😅

[@h.a.z.m.a.t5072]

49:20 this guy is so nice to help the cameraman close his window. We should all strive to be as helpful as this guy.

[@carterstevenson6009]

So selfless, sacrificed himself to the creeps outside just to keep the camera person safe. Mad respect

[@ghostpuppolter3207]

The Scriggly man terrified me, someone needs to make an analogue horror based on Wendigoons drawing.

[@argkitsune]

The thing with shock content is that it’s only really shocking once. The more it gets used the less effective it is for the audience.

[@samuraijackoff5354]

Afterwards, the content tries to one up the previous one. It stops being scary and disturbing to just try hard.

[@argkitsune]

@@samuraijackoff5354 As the saying goes, “variety is the spice of life”, or in this case, the spice of horror media. Greylock is a great contrast to The Painter, in that the former manages to tell a chilling and horrifying story that has just enough intrigue to keep you hooked, while the latter is barely a story that only serves to facilitate gratuitous shock content for its own sake.

[@jczlnr]

its why nobody gets scared by fnaf anymore

[@DianaTaffie]

On the other hand, it becomes funnier the more shocking it gets. Stack overflow. It's so edgy it's enjoyable for how silly it is, while still presenting great art and sudden amazing moments like the 911 call. What a ride.

[@TheAbigailDee]

Imo it's why a lot of extreme horror books are short. So they don't hit those diminish returns. Get in, gross out, get out!

[@samayo11]

A good example of the scary face that wendigoon is talking about is the jumpscare in LOTR when Bilbo see the ring around frodo's neck. The scene is memorable because of the rare horror element of LOTR, but the implication make it even more scarier. he just gave us a magic sword and a mithril armor, he's a good guy. we (the viewer) and frodo trust him. having him act that way show the viewer that the ring can deeply corrupt anyone, no one can be trusted, even people actively fighting against Sauron forces. just having the jumpscare isn't enough, the implication and the story element is what make it work.

[@jonhg92]

That shit stayed with me. Made me recoil when i saw it for the first time. It was so out of nowhere tonally to the movie, up to that point

[@RomanStan]

It hits even harder after reading the Hobbit, really puts into perspective how long Bilbo had the Ring and it’s effects grew as Sauron grew in power

[@Gingersnaps1978]

I still can’t watch it. It got me good in the theater

[@TempestTemple]

I have to give it credit at least, for all the criticism Urbanspook gets, that phonecall scene was the most uncomfortable I've been from a horror series in a while.

[@llamabruddah4090]

That one scene was a rollercoaster of fear, sadness, disgust, and anticipation

[@divineruins]

honestly!!! if urban did more like that, with less powerpoint-esque videos and more actual character events like the phone call, i think the series would be so much better. like of course the point of the series is the art and the sound design, that's evident from how prevalent it is throughout every second of video, but like ... that phone call WAS art

[@cbaumann3557]

@@divineruins if he had a story board director who would take his ideas and make them more compelling giving them good pace and direction while he controls the art and sound it could be so good

[@Json_1040]

@cbaumann3557 _Ah!_ See now *that* is a genuine suggestion that could work in his favor, rather than a negative comment that doesn’t help the conversation at all. If you do not like the content, can you please perhaps give ideas instead of only criticism? It doesn’t help anyone if you only tell them what they’re doing wrong without telling them how to fix it. ( *To clarify: I do not watch UrbanSpook’s content, nor do I care about their actions on Twitter, I only care about my personal ideas and the constructive feedback others give. Just pointing out what the man’s doing wrong doesn’t solve the issue.* )

[@weirdguy1495]

I feel terrible for that dispatcher in particular. She'd definitely be scarred for life about that.

[@domdesigns5624]

The "Its a monster!" or just that whole sequence gives me goosebumps. the execution and wordage used in it is chilling. I've seen it multiple times and it still gives me chills to this day. also in the drill killing scene in urbanspook's the fact that the audio is so loud and goes on for so long, and you can hear the drill grind to a stop at the end, is just horrific.

[@clownsnose]

As someone who’s openly not a big fan of the painter myself, I really appreciate how objectively Wendi goes about criticizing it. There’s alot you can say about it or it’s creator, and he chooses to stay objective and thoughtful. An attitude I really admire, keep up the good work sir!

[@thehazyblob]

It was nice he actually had helpful criticisms

[@discipleofdagon8195]

@@thehazyblob and given the pinned comment, I hope UrbanSpook actually takes time to improve things and mellow out. I'm seeing a lot of lynch-mob type comments wishing for him to never make anything again (which is strange since no one is making them watch it) but I just see that as reductive. He even went as far as to age-restrict his own videos to prevent kids from watching which I find at least a little admirable.

[@adreto2978]

Pre sure most people just dog pile him for no reason other than they saw a tiktok saying he's bad and then had to go comment shit on his videos. Sheep.

[@JDPetty0990]

​@@discipleofdagon8195While I'm not comfortable with some of the content Urbanspooks chooses to explore, I think the mob mentality people have against him is unreasonable. Even now, I see people saying Wendigoon joined that hate mob, but I didn't get that impression at all watching the video; he was even-handed and specific in his criticisms, and he did not want Urbanspooks to stop because there is promise marred by questionable execution.

[@thehazyblob]

@@adreto2978 why would you expect better from the internet

[@sgtpepper861]

The Painter is a Gorror story. Not to say that type of horror doesn’t have a place in the medium, but it tends to lack lasting impact outside of “oh golly gee, that sure is spooky… anyway” instead of the type of horror that has shined within analog horror being psychological horror or the type of horror that messes with the audience and makes their brain produce the horror

[@Tamo_thespookyartist]

I was genuinely disturbed when I first watched it when 8-BitRyan reacted to it. It's not disturbing anymore, but since it's been a couple months the paintings still take me by surprise due to me forgetting what they looked like

[@TheWonkster]

​@@Tamo_thespookyartistI mean the paintings run the gambit of legitimately spooky and offputting, to some vaguely Ed Roth inspired 50's horror comic art but that is neither scary or cool. But even if they were all great, the content with them is still just a big bowl of nothing

[@mcstabbins4501]

For me it's like getting constantly jumpscared in a horror game, the first few times get you then you eventually just become used to it and it's just not scary

[@SarcasticState]

This is entirely irrelevant to your comment but I've never seen someone beside my husband use that pfp and I was so confused because we're watching this for the first time together

[@merchantfan]

It's just not very well done. Good gore can still be memorable in a good way but the storytelling is just as important. It's not even described that well. There's plenty of gory classic stories they just do something more with it and describe it well. The Hunger Games books are actually incredibly gory in parts but there's an actual story so people's main take away isn't "wow that was f'ed up how that guy got gutted or that girl got covered in swollen boils until she suffocated". Edgar Alan Poe has a guy gouging a cat's eye out in one of his most well-regarded stories

[@korablina8310]

The thing with the "Painter" series is the wrong genre lable. It's not an analog horror. It's a creepypasta through and through.

[@datrtzhush3734]

fr

[@A_Cattus]

But who was phone???

[@connyaaaa5555]

Isn’t there already a creepy pasta about a painter?

[@merchantfan]

@@connyaaaa5555 Probably, creepy pasta tends to be even more derivative than most horror

[@vsmolvmetal6565]

@@connyaaaa5555yes, it is called the Bloody Painter

[@deerlyqueery]

"The Painter" is just a modern edgy 2010's creepypasta complete with hyperrealistic blood and eyes and unexplainable spooky happenings and insane over-the-top kills

[@TheodosiaNova]

Right down to not understanding how any procedure is done, how the human body works, or why a huge tub of wax is really just a huge inconvenience for a killer to lug around (and would probably be fairly difficult to kill someone/get a body into).

[@somedragonbastard]

​​@@TheodosiaNova like, the killers apparently climbed up a drain pipe. Did they carry all that wax with them up yhe pipe? Drain pipes are pretty thin

[@seabird8147]

I could appreciate The Painter as an artist stringing together some Disturbing Backstory for their paintings but as a series it doesn't seem much more engaging than like, Jeff the Killer creepypasta

[@CloakofAuron]

It really comes off as a greentext creepypasta series. In fact, it would probably operate better in that format.

[@maxharvey165]

Yeah, but at least he made the artwork used in his series, unlike the other series talked about in the video, who's creator used AI art instead of hiring a real artist to do their artwork

[@Lazy-Lizard]

​@@maxharvey165source???

[@llewelynshingler2173]

​@@maxharvey165You have Proof of this, I assume.

[@tylerpurvis5658]

@@maxharvey165 do you have real proof for this? From what I understand about greylock it was made from two guys one named rob and I’m pretty sure the other guys name is mark. Robs basically the creative genius who thinks up the story and plot while mark is the guy that draws/renders robs ideas and brings them to life. Other than outsourcing voice actors everything in the greylock series was made by them. That’s word for word from marks mouth. So unless you have real evidence for what you say I’m gonna take the creators words for it lmao.

[@scoobis7208]

I think the fact that the scientist says "ill do whatever you want" immediately before the creature manages to open the closet door(which should be pretty easy) is significant

[@ripperbasil1229]

Oooo interesting. Are you thinking like you have to submit/allow these creatures to kill you in some way? Old-school vampire or fae rules?

[@indieoregano]

​@ripperbasil1229 I saw a comment that explained it pretty well. It's significant because it's at that moment that he accepts that the threat can and *will* kill him. At that moment, he manifests his fear into reality, essentially allowing the thoughtform to kill him. I think it's really interesting because it's showing how, in the Greylock universe, you can think up a monster, but it can't kill you unless it makes you feel so much fear that you believe it *will* kill you.

[@magpye5623]

Scoobis is your name from the Pyramid Scooby Doo movie? Ascoobis?

[@theasexualidiot4803]

@@indieoreganothat is terrifying and awesome at the same time.

[@ripperbasil1229]

@indieoregano oh yeah that makes sense

[@Moccashio]

"there is talent, its just buried under all of the edgelord" is such an accurate description- I loved it.

[@FML_Patata]

GREYLOCK: Actual horror. Inspired by other series of the genre, yet manages to make their tropes work delicately while adding a veil of mystery. UrbanSPOOK: Gore porn. It's just gore porn.

[@LeGabrielMan]

And cool drawings

[@emberwolf4941]

So true, it's a copy and paste each episode and is meant to portray shock value, jarring gore. But like wendi said, once you become desensitized by it, it's no longer scary, and is just uninteresting without real plot.

[@Paugose]

Not sure, Greylock is incredibly weak (I mean, it's Analog Horror) with the same "Government is actually behind/working with monster thing" because then they have an excuse to show even more monsters, hommage just there to say "I watched classics" (he whole dog fusion thing from, well, The Thing), the usual mystical stuff behind every language/concept/religion/what have you. Jumpscares that are predictable and are also there just to shock ultimately. It's incredibly basic/formulaic and amateurish and I see people claiming it's like the Citizen Kane of modern horror when all I see is like a portfolio of what the creator knows. I'd say Spook at least doesn't pretend to have a story, he's a tad bit more honest on just wanting you to be disturbed or shock. B-17, Planet of the Vampires, Hound of Baskerville, Midwest Angelica, Blood, Fulci's work, Meaupassant's Fear, Friday the 13th, Father James Mitchell (wrestling manager, incredible talent), those were works that actually got me thinking "Man, that's some disturbing/scary shit". Greylock got me into "Ho, jumpscare, ok, that surprised me but, it's not really scary. Ho, she was turned into a dog fusion, okay cool, somebody watched The Thing. The girl gets killed by a thoughtform? Yeah whatever."

[@royalhydra9790]

@@Paugose Do you even like analog horror?

[@Paugose]

@@royalhydra9790 I think it's incredibly weak and often just do surface level hommage to much superior pieces of work. I listen to some people watching it live while I'm working on stuff or just fooling around, because you never know when you find some hidden gems. From the top of my head I might only find two of them quite good, Kid with the Camera and Monument Mythos. I'd say the horrific implications of Mythos are beyond many other works of the genre because it makes it more of an anticipation tale than just "oogala boogla fake people scary" with the imposter concept, being "what if you were too subversive and the government replaced you with an alternate version of you while you were locked in that alternate's very universe forever, and your closed ones would just think you went a bit banana?", that's way more logical and scary (should it exist) than "Hey they make food out of human eating meat-monster" or "Hey there's a living Godzilla spewing blood and turning people into monster but naaah we'll do nothing".

[@NezarecFGOP]

2 hour long wendigoon video? What a great day

[@Iamreallyfreakinggay]

Hug your friends

[@UFO_MAN]

Don’t forget to call your moðer!

[@danielcantiego9374]

More like night to me

[@jc_art_]

Id rather do something else Yknow like watch a 3 hour wendigoon video instead

[@joserios4409]

@@jc_art_you know what sounds better than a three hour video wendigoon?

[@jstar3382]

I think the creepiest part of 6 is that Paul suspects that Frank has something to do with it. The crazed laughter after he says "but your machine picked up" is why At 1:20:35

[@inthefort6003]

I absolutely loved that, I adore when characters like Paul, that can easily just be a 1 off plot device are given little moments that are like "hey, by the way, this guy is a person and he isn't stupid"

[@quirkychap]

"'Survivors' is a very strong word" Man, that is a hell of a description, and extremely ominous for something out of a work of horror

[@elenabloksberg212]

I'm your 69th like. Nice comment :)

[@thisdeath]

yea as soon as wendi said that i thought woah.. they are...gone

[@Brosiff4]

Wendigoon, you are easily the kindest KZbinr I watch. As a Christian myself I’m almost in tears because I can just see how happy you are that you have great fans 😊

[@SoggyBread-xm5eu]

That closet jumpscare surprised me but the child’s voice saying “it’s a monster” really scared me. Awesome stuff. Wouldn’t have seen it without you Wendigo great video thanks

[@austin_bennett]

I honestly love the breakdown of "ok this works because of this" "that doesn't work well here's why" it perfectly represents constructive criticism & it helps people learn something regardless of quality or regardless of whos watching (in terms of artist, aspiring artist, fans or casual observer). Can't wait to see your other projects they all sound great

[@machomandalf2893]

I’m taking a lot of that advice into my own fictional works. He did great with the criticism.

[@barbararab6390]

I hope urbanspook takes the criticism and learns from it. He saw the video, and hopefully he can actually use what wendigoon said to his advantage in whatever next project he creates

[@grumboflipflorp5688]

@@barbararab6390 His comment implies that he at least listened to the criticism, but only because UrbanSPOOK likes Wendigoon as a creator, personally. If it was anyone else, Urban would probably flood their Discord DMs with every slur in the book.

[@kannakamui9584]

@@grumboflipflorp5688 none of us can really speak for someone else but i doubt most of others gave actual criticism prob just ppl who say "hey your stuff is shit scrub". theres a difference between being an asshole and being constructive

[@barbararab6390]

@@grumboflipflorp5688 and bc wendigoon is beloved in the community and knows more famous analog creators. If urbanspooks went off on him, even less ppl would want to see his content

[@jestergames1763]

Can't wait for you to make 'The Scribbly Man Catalogue' for your first analogue horror series.

[@steviebeevie]

Scribbly man movie when

[@ctdaniels7049]

This is just what would look like through the infrared camera... 🤔

[@LayannaNelson-zh9wh]

"The Scribble Incident"

[@PaladinGear15]

That phone call scene was so damn good, I seriously love how freaky it is, I can just imagine myself in that situation and being just as freaked out.

[@conmankershaw]

Dude, "There is so much talent here, it's just buried under all the edge lord," has to become a T-shirt.

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

The Kingdom Hearts series in a nutshell.

[@conmankershaw]

@@Robbie-mw5uu facts 🤣🤣🤣

[@hulkbelowall9532]

As much I love Urbanspook I am inclined to agree

[@manboy4720]

the edgelord is just sitting on top of it, like when a big dog flops onto a small cat.

[@themoocow7718]

I’d buy that shirt.

[@Afish8me2china]

I love the small detail of how Paul’s profile photo turns from a smile to a frown as the tapes go on. It’s so subtle but adds so much

[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

“His smile and optimism: Gone.” For real though it’s so good

[@a.bdioro5302]

@@LifesNeverHumDrumbinyot referen

[@SwizzleDrizzl]

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[@LifesNeverHumDrum]

@@a.bdioro5302 I was referencing the old meme image of a guy from a Japanese game show, where that was the caption

[@charalinedreemurr2953]

I also like that it uses the Emergency Broadcast System. Most analog horror series that incorporate Emergency Alerts, typically use the Emergency Alert Systems even though, the time period they take place in, the Emergency Alert Systems wasn't even implemented yet. Keep in mind, the Emergency Broadcast Systems is the predecessor to the Emergency Alert System.

[@anonymousdratini]

1:10:38, okay but imagine that the killers are actually art themselves? Like some painter used a cursed brush to make his art come alive doodelbob style and it just started murking everyone and making paintings of them. And the initial painter tried making another one to stop the first one and they ended up joining forces? That would be really cool if that was the actual outcome of that series. I don’t think it is, but I’d be kinda into that as a twist.

[@cloudharmonia8199]

It would be awesome, but UrbanSPOOK's not creative enough for that

[@themoocow7718]

That sounds like something. Cursed objects.

[@calumhughes5072]

that's just goofy

[@anonymousdratini]

@@calumhughes5072 it’s probably better than what is actually planned though

[@ctdaniels7049]

So the art IS the killer? Fascinating idea!

[@somecanadiangirl1]

The Painter seems to fit one of my favourite analogies I’ve adopted: it’s like a pizza cutter, all edge no points

[@TimeCircleBlue]

Oh, you use that one too. Sick

[@JeanMarceaux]

It's a very good analogy that applies to a lot of things: Hatred, The Painter, Onision

[@allenharper2928]

​@@JeanMarceauxYou spoke the forbidden name. In 7 days Onision will emerge from your smartphone and groom you.😮

[@allenharper2928]

Oh crap, now I did too!😩

[@TrippaMazing87]

Greylock hit especially hard for me. When I was young in Massachusetts I heard scary stories about the mountains in the West, and man.. seeing them visualized just hit something in me I never expected an analog horror series to..

[@TrippaMazing87]

@googlyeyeballs434 well The Greylock Series isn’t based on anything as far as I can tell, but one specific one I remember was about a miner who worked on the Hoosac Tunnel. I looked online and they have tons of different stories about that one! The real stories about the building of that tunnel are pretty wild too. There was also one from Mt. Greylock itself about some big creature, I really wish I could remember the name because that was one of my favorites!

[@Morgan-Le-Fail]

Maybe I'm old, but the Painter series sounds just like 95% of the creepypastas that made the rounds back in the day. "OOH scary things happen and there's no point and no story but it's SO SPOOKY." But with better graphics.

[@X3n0nLP]

"Distrought at the sight of her missing infant" Wierd how that can apply to multiple horror series. It is such a natural fear.

[@Tamo_thespookyartist]

Where was that line from...I don't want to immediately jump the gun and say it's from The Mandela Catalogue, unless it is

[@kodachromic]

@@Tamo_thespookyartist it is!

[@Tamo_thespookyartist]

@@kodachromic Ah OK. It seemed like something I'd see in TMC.

[@sinecur.a]

Yeah. It is a natural fear to lose your baby out of the blue I guess.

[@Nassifeh]

Pregnancy (or infant) loss and cancer are like two sides of a horrible coin: the unexplained absence and the unexplained growth. They only take a slight nudge to turn into outright horror. Not just a natural fear, but an extremely common thing that is nevertheless almost entirely out of our control.