The Big Short Investors Who Lost $9.4 Billion

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Hamish Hodder

Hamish Hodder

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@HamishHodder
@HamishHodder Жыл бұрын
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@joerice4390
@joerice4390 6 ай бұрын
The bundling of bad loans didn't crush the economy... It was the synthetic c d o's which could be bought by anybody, Even though she didn't own the bonds
@jackspickphone6656
@jackspickphone6656 3 ай бұрын
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@jonreznick5531
@jonreznick5531 11 ай бұрын
I was working at a webcasting company called TalkPoint Communications and we were the ones who webcast the American Subprime Lenders Association summit, and the Eisman-Miller debate definitely happened--across my desk. There were raised voices, and I had a semi-circle of colleagues standing around me asking why a guy was yelling. BearStearns was also one of our biggest clients, as was AIG and GoldmanSachs. We webcast the end of the world, and I nearly SHIT MYSELF when I saw this scene in The Big Short because I lived it in realtime.
@JCJW101
@JCJW101 11 ай бұрын
Did someone in the audience shout out like in the movie and did Bear Sterns collapse whilst the talk was happening?
@jonreznick5531
@jonreznick5531 11 ай бұрын
@@JCJW101 There was shouting that drew colleagues to my desk... but honestly I cannot remember if that was also the day BS collapsed. Bear was *also* a client and all of this stuff happened in the back half of '08.
@mrphenom1643
@mrphenom1643 2 ай бұрын
So when did you guys realize shit is hitting the fan?
@kanupreiya_29
@kanupreiya_29 Ай бұрын
Wow
@tomclwd4756
@tomclwd4756 21 күн бұрын
Do you know if there is a recording of that meeting ?
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 8 ай бұрын
NINJA loan I love the "sub-prime" wording too... a way to call total garbage something "just slightly below perfect".... genius.
@JohnAdams-mu7xd
@JohnAdams-mu7xd 5 ай бұрын
Wait till people find out that Banks print money out of thin air to loan for the purchase of your home and then when you default on something they never gave you they get to come in and take the real asset, the home....
@Johnnypaycheck77
@Johnnypaycheck77 4 ай бұрын
Derivatives
@andymoore1527
@andymoore1527 Ай бұрын
They were cynically also called "liars loans" In the finance industry
@justinweber4977
@justinweber4977 11 ай бұрын
This actually makes Forensic Accounting sound like a fascinating career.
@PumpkinPotatoPie
@PumpkinPotatoPie 11 ай бұрын
It is interesting to see it come together but having to find the connections is mind breaking stuff and most cases end incomplete because they end up settling before the full extent of the crime can be discovered
@fafoy17
@fafoy17 11 ай бұрын
Just learn accounting you will never be poor knowing everything
@gabiesanchez8943
@gabiesanchez8943 8 ай бұрын
Forensic accountants get d3ath threats too much. The higher the stakes, the higher the desperation, and the more dirty people are willing to play.
@AC-iz7eh
@AC-iz7eh 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it's almost as dangerous as being a journalist covering the story of a dictator. They will find a way to get you and all you'll be is just an obit in the newspaper for a week or two. There's so many cases of financial investigators being disappeared
@anotheryoutubechannel4809
@anotheryoutubechannel4809 5 ай бұрын
it is! My ex was one and travelled with armed security around the world auditing suppliers. Crazy stories!
@aggressivedesignnetwork
@aggressivedesignnetwork 5 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Big Short and knowing what went on, but you presented a lot of stuff I didn't know and I appreciate it because it really put some of the stuff that I understood, but didn't see the foundational pieces together.
@kevinmithnick9993
@kevinmithnick9993 5 ай бұрын
x2
@sunkat2337
@sunkat2337 5 ай бұрын
Agree. Good work.
@toddi412
@toddi412 5 ай бұрын
same here
@water_with_lemons
@water_with_lemons 4 ай бұрын
Please, please read the book. It’s very, very interesting. It goes into the Hubler trade in detail and it’s crazy, it’s the chapter “A Death of Interest”.
@sixtolezcano3
@sixtolezcano3 4 ай бұрын
Nobody ever talks about the US Congressional Banking committee politicians like Barney Frank who set the whole system up, told the banks the govt would backstop them and convinced them that they would be required to lend to subprime buyers or get shut out of the whole system. Not Michael Lewis, not the players, nobody ever brings this up.
@mtebor
@mtebor 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@SecondPlaceInTheGeneticLottery
@SecondPlaceInTheGeneticLottery 2 ай бұрын
It's not talked about much, because it was a much smaller piece of the puzzle. Blaming Congress is designed to deflect from the greed that largely caused the crisis. I worked for one of the firms at the center of it and we used to half-joke with one of the C-level executives that "I hope you look good in orange". Everybody was making boat loads of money.
@leonelfederico245
@leonelfederico245 Ай бұрын
@@SecondPlaceInTheGeneticLottery Are you sure it's a small part of the puzzle? It was the Clinton Administration who used the Community and Reinvestment act of the Carter Administration to convince the banks and investment firms to allocate assets into the sub-prime segment. The trade off protrayed in the book (or one of the books I read) stated that Clinton's Admin told the banks that if they wanted to continue their orgy of consolodation, they would have to lend to lower credit segments of the market. Indeed, greed played a large role, but as usual the negative externalities of an idea to promote "fairness" was met with ugly consequences. Perhaps greedy businesses and stupid politicians would be apropos.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 Ай бұрын
Nor do any taxpayers, asking where their bailout returns are now that the market is doing well...
@shuaibsaleem569
@shuaibsaleem569 Ай бұрын
Congress literally made the system and then told these guys hey we did this go crazy lmao ​@@SecondPlaceInTheGeneticLottery
@doresearchstopwhining
@doresearchstopwhining 11 ай бұрын
"A real engineer builds bridges, a financial engineer builds, builds dreams. And when those dreams turn out to be nightmares, other people pay for it." - Andrew Sheng
@richard8242
@richard8242 11 ай бұрын
Who puts up the toll booths
@BRoyce69
@BRoyce69 11 ай бұрын
When construction projects are nightmares the engineer isn't footing the bill either. But nice philosophizing
@ManforSomeMarkets
@ManforSomeMarkets 3 ай бұрын
Financial engineers can also find ways to structure products that bridge people’s time and risk preference to allow more physical bridges to get financed.
@doresearchstopwhining
@doresearchstopwhining 3 ай бұрын
@@ManforSomeMarkets Sure... But that is not the point. When they took risks the US gov bailed them out. Millions lost everything and the banks came out just fine. Remember that part?
@ManforSomeMarkets
@ManforSomeMarkets 3 ай бұрын
@@doresearchstopwhining “They” (Lenders, originators, servicers, insurers, GSE’s, the institutions that bought/traded MBS’s and even the borrowers themselves) took risk in housing and mortgages because general housing prices almost never fell between 1975 to 2006. Agency MBS’s were perceived almost as safe as government debt because people tended to pay, they are collateralized by the property and guaranteed by GSE’s (implicitly the government itself). An implicit guarantee that got more extreme when Freddie and Fannie began buying large amounts of Alt-A and non-agency Subprime to maintain their mandate of affordable housing. The US was/is obsessed with home ownership and investors were/are obsessed with higher yielding products. Combining policy and demand gave perverse incentives to each part of the mortgage value chain. Besides Lehman’s death and the fall of BS/WaMu, there were plenty of banks who never returned to their prior glory (DB, Citi, CS). Fannie and Freddie are still in conservatorship today. Maybe more executives should have went to jail for fraudulent lending practices, but it would be disingenuous to say that banks faced no punishment. And as a reminder the government bailout wasn’t just aimed at banks. Two of the Big 3 auto manufacturers went bankrupt at the time and there was a general loss of confidence in just doing business. Even regular repo and money markets froze. The government not intervening would have been more politically insane than the intervention itself. And no, KZbin comments are unfortunately not transferable college credits. But thanks if you do read and consider my comment. I recommend the Brookings write up on the housing market as well as books like “All the Devils are here” for a glimpse of the GFC, because any analysis of it is an autopsy of Rasputin.
@alienrenders
@alienrenders 11 ай бұрын
OOOHHhhhh. This movie makes SO much more sense now. I never really understand that scene at the end.
@shivambajpayee5801
@shivambajpayee5801 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful thing about finance guys is that they call "poisoning the water supply" as offloading which is equivalent to terrorist attack with chemical wepon
@bluehorseshoe444
@bluehorseshoe444 11 ай бұрын
When I saw the title, I thought this video was going to be about Phil Falcone... now there's a fascinating Wall Street story no has really told yet... guy was one of the biggest winners on the short housing bet... guy was a legit billionaire, he even owned part of the Minnesota Wild, but 10 years later he was flat broke
@lonelydogclub
@lonelydogclub 11 ай бұрын
To be honest why would someone continue trading that aggressively with a billion dollars? He and his offsprings could live indefinitely from it and have whatever they want to have.......
@WreckerR
@WreckerR 11 ай бұрын
@@lonelydogclub Because someone like that always wants one more dollar...
@X19-x5f
@X19-x5f 11 ай бұрын
I knew something was up when, in 1998, my wife and I applied for a mortgage of $159,000 and they said we actually qualified for a mortgage of $250,000. They said "You could completely furnish the house or even buy a bigger house and furnish that one". We said "No Thanks" and walked away with our smaller mortgage, and I told my wife at the time that something bad is going to happen with this whole mortgage thing, but I was an unsophisticated with money at the time and didn't know how to act on my instinct.
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 11 ай бұрын
It happened all over just like this. The banks were and are as crooked as hell. Everyone wanted to blame the mortgage holders, but the BANKS were just giving money away and fomenting the crisis.
@zulfakaraspar2311
@zulfakaraspar2311 11 ай бұрын
It is going to happen again. You should learn from success stories and dig further.
@dennissvitak148
@dennissvitak148 11 ай бұрын
It get's worse. I was given the name of a reputable banker from Stifel Bank, here in St. Louis..and old money brick and mortar bank. Hell..they have their bank's name on the St. Louis Cardinals' baseball uniform. Anyway, I applied for a loan, and here's the phone conversation. Him..."How much do you want?" Me..."3". Him..."I'll give you 7." Ummm...NOPE. The loan was for $289,500.00. There is no way in hell I could ever have managed a five thousand dollar a month loan. Well..maybe...but I would have been house-poor.
@roycesanders4315
@roycesanders4315 11 ай бұрын
Ok boomer
@marsmellow1589
@marsmellow1589 11 ай бұрын
It`s the same now. We can borrow with our current income up to 300 000 pounds. Bought a bouse for 125 000. Deposit 32 500. Nice house somewhere in Wales. Bought based on a single salary so that we can still live like we do now if one of us loses income, separate or whatever. The mortgage guy just kept pushing that 300 000 mark. Big fucking finger.
@tjinc2001
@tjinc2001 11 ай бұрын
The Big Short is one of my favorite movies. Your insight and analysis has enhanced my understanding. Thank you! Entertaining and educational.
@kroanosm617
@kroanosm617 11 ай бұрын
A perfect case of "You can't make this sh it up."
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 24 күн бұрын
Byyyeeeeeee Kaaaaathyyyyy
@lorenzogiubellino9477
@lorenzogiubellino9477 5 ай бұрын
Honestly this is the best and clearest summary of the big short, really amazing
@penitent2401
@penitent2401 11 ай бұрын
Make $42mil by fraud, get fined $7mil. Sounds about right.
@sirlost94
@sirlost94 11 ай бұрын
Don’t hate the players, hate the game
@penitent2401
@penitent2401 11 ай бұрын
@@sirlost94 those players are the ones who rigged the game that way.
@alvydasjokubauskas2587
@alvydasjokubauskas2587 11 ай бұрын
They only proved 7 million was fraud money, so thats what they got. For other millions, they did not have proof or time to find it all. Beurocracy got killed by beurocracy....
@handlethesenutz
@handlethesenutz 10 ай бұрын
​@@sirlost94we can quite easily do both.
@choncha23
@choncha23 5 ай бұрын
It sounds like what is happening today. I have friends who have, but they have a lot of student loan debt and consumer debt. The reason they didn't feel like living paycheck to paycheck was because of the low-interest rates. It's happening all over again. A lot of people are one job lose away from their assets being seized.
@applelandry4233
@applelandry4233 11 ай бұрын
He said the credit agencies gave high ratings because if not the bank would go to another agency. That's not true. They gave high ratings because they had no obligation to be honest. And they still don't.
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 11 ай бұрын
Quiet funny how there are laws for everything. Except for stuff that really matters.
@alibizzle2010
@alibizzle2010 11 ай бұрын
This would make sense if their where mot emails from investment banks threatening to fire a rating agency if they didn't give a CDO a higher rating
@applelandry4233
@applelandry4233 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@alibizzle2010well that's a certainly a way of saying you're missing the point. Them firing or going to another bank is literally the same effect...loss of revenue. And my point, which still applies, is that the rating agencies had no obligation to be honest. Officers of a company have a fiduciary responsibility, lawyers have a legal obligation to represent to the best of their abilities, ratings agencies, whose products impact millions, have a responsibility only to businesses in their ecosystem.
@C00kiesAplenty
@C00kiesAplenty 4 ай бұрын
​@@alibizzle2010 Banks being able to threaten them with replacement is a symptom not a disease. The real issue is they they are under no obligation to actually rate things honestly..
@ToblerX
@ToblerX 8 күн бұрын
Excellence recap, fascinating all the intricacies and nuance at play during the GFC.
@dkchen
@dkchen 4 ай бұрын
To be fair the rating agencies didn’t know how to rate these bonds. They used the banks formula to rate these bonds.
@justas070707
@justas070707 Жыл бұрын
Hamish, appreciate the content and effort as always 👏
@waylaidsavant
@waylaidsavant Жыл бұрын
Boom! Great share. I never knew the deets of this subplot
@checkforme234
@checkforme234 Ай бұрын
I feel investors should be focusing on under-the-radar stocks, and considering the current rollercoaster nature of the stock market, Because 35% of my $270k portfolio comprises of plummeting stocks which were once revered and i don't know where to go here out of devastation.
@jimparsons6803
@jimparsons6803 Ай бұрын
I've heard that mortgages are a specialized form of contracts. Under Contract Law, I think, contract can be assigned, hence the CDOs. I have the DVD, liked that they kept the information easy to understand and the fact that the folks that were doing the malfeasance were depicted as 'not getting it,' or not carrying. That is what also came across with CBS' 60 Minutes on their several spots on this topic. Mores the 'Yikes!'
@dotsovertonesinging
@dotsovertonesinging 5 ай бұрын
Great analysis, especially with the real life references. One of my best movies ever. Recording your video in Imax? what is that clarity?
@Eunegin23
@Eunegin23 4 ай бұрын
I lived in NYC back then, working in a completely different field. My neighbor was a banker, great parties, interesting (not always nice...) guests. Weird group dynamics. I usually was one of the only non-bankers. After having witnessed them (middle management) I didn't feel comfy with my investment and sold 90% of my stocks in winter 2006/2007. Best decision ever. Then bought my apartment when the prices were low.
@bernadofelix
@bernadofelix 11 ай бұрын
To my understanding this just proves how much we need an edged as an investors because playing the market like everyone else just isn’t good enough. I’ve been quite ensured about investing in this current market and at the same time I feel it’s the best time to get started on the market, what are your thoughts?!
@hersdera
@hersdera 11 ай бұрын
That’s true , I’ve been getting assisted by ‘Margaret Johnson Arndt’ for almost a year now , I started out less than $200k and I’m just $19,000 short of half a million in profits.
@hersdera
@hersdera 11 ай бұрын
I am being advised by Margaret Johnson Arndt, an experienced financial professional. If you're interested, you can easily find more information about her as she has accumulated years of expertise in the financial market.
@SandraDave.
@SandraDave. 11 ай бұрын
I just checked her out on google and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.
@rifelaw
@rifelaw 9 ай бұрын
The problem is a CDS is an insurance policy regulated not as an insurance policy but as a security. First, you don't need an "insurable interest". You can't buy insurance on someone else's property or life, but you can buy a swap against securities you don't own. This means the swap and related markets can be several times the size of the assets they are securing, which they in fact were. When an asset-tracking investment class becomes several times larger than the asset class it's supposedly tracking, it's tulip time. Second, an insurance policy can't be traded up and down an investment chain; a CDS and related instruments can. Which means your "insurance policy" is worth only as much as the ability to pay of the weakest link in that investment chain, regardless of any repo agreements.
@PigdogEsq
@PigdogEsq 3 ай бұрын
Hamish, a few things. First: CDOs and Synthetic CDOs were different, it was the former not the latter that were the huge market. Second, Kathy is not Mark's boss, she's essentially his banker, who lent the capital for Mark & Frontpoint's position, with Frontpoint also renting space from and using the trading/banking platform and infrastructure the bigger bank to make their trades.
@johnallen5999
@johnallen5999 Ай бұрын
The transition into the promo was flawless.
@jdrancho1864
@jdrancho1864 4 ай бұрын
I've watched this movie sooo many times, it is one of my favorites. But I could never make sense of the scene where Eismann sits in his boss' office and has this revelation about the outfit he works for. I just moved past it, thinking it has no real relevance. Thank you for laying this out for us and putting the scene into context. As many times as I have watched this movie, I find out new angles that I hadn't known existed.
@Sharkdog11b
@Sharkdog11b 5 ай бұрын
Subscriber for life right here man you’re great at what you do
@wanderingknight10
@wanderingknight10 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t tell the full story the same guy that lost 9 billion ended up getting all that back plus more.
@adityachoudhary5606
@adityachoudhary5606 Ай бұрын
I was really waiting for the story but he started the ad
@markcasey2517
@markcasey2517 2 ай бұрын
Hey man. Thanks for representing Australia so beautifully. Love the analysis.
@38skippers
@38skippers Жыл бұрын
Nothings changed
@leonelfederico245
@leonelfederico245 Ай бұрын
Yours is the scariest observation yet. What happens when the trillions of $ injected into the economy during covid dries up? I haven't seen any improvements in productivity to offset these injections, so....Yikes!
@justatiger6268
@justatiger6268 4 ай бұрын
Why didn't Wing Chau short the housing market himself if he knew it was all a steaming pile of garbage?
@samotian0331
@samotian0331 Ай бұрын
That's basically a massive conflict of interest. Imagine managing CDOs and telling investors that they're safe but then betting that they'll fail.
@kevinstoneham1245
@kevinstoneham1245 5 ай бұрын
Great video in helping explain some of the finer elements of what was going on in the film.
@Nngmm1
@Nngmm1 Жыл бұрын
G’day Hamish. Very much enjoyed this video. I’ve watched The Big Short 3 times and had so many holes in my understanding even after the 3rd watch! This video has been excellent for me. Much appreciated.
@vincentkosik403
@vincentkosik403 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff..this was very revealing and thank you
@Rainy_Day12234
@Rainy_Day12234 11 ай бұрын
There is a problem among financial academics and practicers not understanding inherent risks that aren’t factored into their mathematical models…not knowing what they don’t know and their risk exposure is open tailed…just because it hasn’t happened recently doesn’t mean it’s never going to happen.
@DKH712
@DKH712 11 ай бұрын
I studied Finance and what you talk about has always fascinated me. Pricing and risk management used to be more subjective, but with all the mathematical models we have now, it gives pricing and risk management an air of objectivity. But like you said, this ´objective´ way of looking at things favours certain risks while ignoring others. So in a way it is subjective, but it´s a subjectivity that we like to copy of of each other. This is dangerous because if everyone is wrong in the same way, then when shit hits the fan and the assumptions of the models aren´t holding up, then it goes bad for everyone at the same time, and the impact is magnified. In practice not everyone will use the exact same models, but there is significant overlap. Maybe we should shift to a more bayesian model of risk and pricing where expert opinions are also factored in. This would allow more diversity in pricing and risk assessments.
@arthurov
@arthurov Ай бұрын
Amazing research, immediately subscribed to your channel.
@shroomer3867
@shroomer3867 17 күн бұрын
So the guy who had the $9b loss was shorting the sub-prime assets did everything right. It’s just that he didn’t know that the amount of fraud going on with the sub-prime mortgages being inside the “better quality” bundles basically.
@ashwinvasavada8401
@ashwinvasavada8401 2 ай бұрын
Nice work. Original and well researched.
@cristianbunea9848
@cristianbunea9848 5 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO BUDDY! I wouldn't dream in a modern colony as Romania, my home country, that such transcripts would exist.
@JP-hu8wi
@JP-hu8wi 14 күн бұрын
Great vid 👍🏽
@williambakker745
@williambakker745 11 ай бұрын
I know of a Dutch bank ceo who at the time did not know the difference between the Dutch (European) and American mortgage system. In America the mortgage is on the house and the person can walk away from the property, giving the keys to the bank. In Europe the mortgage is on the persons (man and woman) with the house as collatoral. And any remaining debt after (forced) selling of the house will still be payable to the bank for the rest of your lives.
@FlyingSagittarius
@FlyingSagittarius 11 ай бұрын
It works like that here too, the only way to get rid of a mortgage for good is to file bankruptcy.
@SprakanaKerum
@SprakanaKerum 11 ай бұрын
Europeans seem to be more mature than Americans in every aspect of governance
@criSOME1
@criSOME1 11 ай бұрын
Lol you mean that continent that couldn’t create a constitution after hundreds of years of government?
@dannyarcher6370
@dannyarcher6370 11 ай бұрын
"That is fucking crazy." "It's not. It's awesome." I love this movie so much.
@andthefunkybunch1466
@andthefunkybunch1466 Жыл бұрын
The "buy back*" mistake seems like a pretty big correction that probably just warrants re-recording that whole section.
@seanwebb605
@seanwebb605 6 ай бұрын
They weren't mortgage backed assets. The bonds were the returns on the mortgages backed by an asset. The house!
@eraseme1194
@eraseme1194 Жыл бұрын
Now, please do a video on total return swaps as it relates to citadel capital, market structure, naked shorting, and Gamestop.
@Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley
@Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley Ай бұрын
The market's direction can swiftly change, with indexes frequently transitioning from a bear market to a bull market precisely when the news is most negative and investor sentiment reaches its lowest point.
@jup52
@jup52 11 ай бұрын
This was a really great explanation of some of the aspects of the GFC ( although it made me feel sick). But how have some of these short funds done with continuing short selling. I read that Bury lost big short selling Tesla? How much of the short selling success was just luck? The other real question, who lost this money during the GFC. Yes the FED ( the public) but also how much of the losses were "shifted" to pension funds and ordinary investors?
@jeg5438
@jeg5438 11 ай бұрын
Any idea whats going to happen this time around with the housing markets?
@NathanHarrison7
@NathanHarrison7 5 ай бұрын
Another excellent video. Thank you.
@seanwebb605
@seanwebb605 6 ай бұрын
I think it was a convention for securities. Not specifically sub prime mortgage bonds. Even if that is the group of portfolio managers and such who attended.
@gordo3582
@gordo3582 Жыл бұрын
When I saw your vid title I thought it was going to be about Carl Icahn. You should do another vid on Carl Icahn because he ALSO lost $9 BILLION in his "big short" just over the last several years and his case is particularly interesting because he was recently featured in an HBO documentary "Icahn: The Restless Billionaire" where they didn't mention any of this massive loss. He is famous for being an activist shareholder. His Wiki entry described him as "Widely regarded as one of the most successful hedge fund managers of all time and one of the greatest investors on Wall Street".
@ryansteele2677
@ryansteele2677 Ай бұрын
I think one of the scariest things about the whole crisis was how little actual collision occurred... Especially near the end, it seems there was some joint efforts made to cover losses and whatnot, but generally speaking, it seems that the parties involved were all just looking out for themselves and their bottom line, and as a result, multiple entities worked together without actually working together... They didn't have to actually colude bc all of their interests alligned on their own...
@jasonpollock9259
@jasonpollock9259 24 күн бұрын
*collusion
@eren__morwen5947
@eren__morwen5947 4 ай бұрын
When I heard the existence of synthetic CDOs I had exact reaction as Mark Baum. My jaw just dropped to how someone can be so negligent My question is, does this still happen? Are CDOs, synthetic CDOs etc still in the play? Are we heading into another 2008?
@elcookiemonsteru
@elcookiemonsteru 11 ай бұрын
And yet, they never learn and history keeps repeating itself....
@cookinthekitchen
@cookinthekitchen 5 ай бұрын
Good research thanks
@almabe7608
@almabe7608 11 ай бұрын
This video was dope my boy! 🙌 Kudos to you
@KeithRowley418
@KeithRowley418 2 ай бұрын
Very clear explanation.
@woolfel
@woolfel 11 ай бұрын
I used to work in the investment banking world building compliance system. What I learned about investment banking world made me feel that entire world is completely corrupt and F-ed up beyond hope. Even though the fed gov requires every firm run rebalance and compliance check regularly, most do not and simply assume they will pay fines. Those fines are passed on as management fee to the people buying into the fund. One of the banks that tanked during the crisis was Wachovia and I know for a fact they didn't run compliance regularly. They weren't the only investment bank that didn't follow the rules. If both dem and republican parties didn't screw with the SEC and purposely strip them of funding and power to do their job, it might not have happened. Until voters stop supporting both parties, this kind of crash cycle will continue and that 0.01% will get even richer.
@iansisberg5745
@iansisberg5745 11 ай бұрын
Yes. I agree with you. It's "Bad"!!! It's "Very Bad"!!!!! But, what other "Political Party" is there to support???!!!" There's only "2 Political Parties" in America to support. The "Democrats and the Republicans"!!!!! That's it!!! 😐😐😐😐😐
@Hellya38
@Hellya38 11 ай бұрын
“hey there’s bubble” who doesnt know
@isarmararnason8195
@isarmararnason8195 4 ай бұрын
Awsom video dude keep it up!
@coffeedonutsandhomer653
@coffeedonutsandhomer653 3 ай бұрын
What is that above Hamish’s eye? I can’t see anything else after I noticed it 😮
@dennissvitak148
@dennissvitak148 11 ай бұрын
2006. The company I worked for went belly up. My 401(k) money was about 100k at that time. I parked it in CD's, for two years. It was the highest yield at the time. From the time I moved it over, to when I put money back INTO the markets, the stock market went from 14k to 8k. I didn't lose a dime, and in fact, made about 12k. My money then doubled, and then doubled again, by the time I retired. Thank you housing bubble! I got very, very lucky.
@lilhaxxor
@lilhaxxor 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks.
@revocolor
@revocolor Жыл бұрын
Please make a video that tells what would happen when A.I. bubble burst.
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 11 ай бұрын
Many products are said using AI while no actual AI is used or even required for the product. It is ridiculous. They just say AI because it sells apparently.
@revocolor
@revocolor 11 ай бұрын
@@pcdispatch you are right 👍
@computerlearingchannel4257
@computerlearingchannel4257 11 ай бұрын
You explaining this better than the movie lol
@TheTroubledPack
@TheTroubledPack Ай бұрын
Great video
@aryanngupta
@aryanngupta 11 ай бұрын
I think you are confusing Synthetic CDOs and Credit default swaps (CDS). Your descriptions of Synthetic CDOs is in actuality the definition of a CDS.
@alexxfoxxdehoboken3145
@alexxfoxxdehoboken3145 4 ай бұрын
Did Michael Scott drop a “boom” 😄😄
@alexmaccity
@alexmaccity Ай бұрын
Thanks Hamish.
@tritonh5683
@tritonh5683 3 ай бұрын
The common term from Wall Street and Especially our government is “I assume no risk for my decisions” If they must take responsibility for a fail economy, then none of these bad decisions will ever be made or a lot less frequent. Because if their job and livelihood is on the line, yeah their decision will be very different.
@andrewtaylor5771
@andrewtaylor5771 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, around the 1.30 time, you explanation of CDO's was wrong, you are referring to Credit Default Swaps CDS, which was where the original short against the housing market (Mortgage backed security MBS). The CDO and Synthetic CDO's were the bets against the CDS, which was where the Burry's held. The CDO was the bet against the CDS, the Synthetic CDO is a bet against the original CDO.
@desertadvisor
@desertadvisor 4 ай бұрын
Great job 👏🏻
@mikeyh0
@mikeyh0 4 күн бұрын
Our national debt is FOUR times what it was in 2008. The next crash will crush our entire economy.
@tinkertailor7385
@tinkertailor7385 11 ай бұрын
Well, none of this could happen without regulators allowing it or even forcing it to happen. Enter Fannie Mae and Government subsidized debt. Where Government forced banks to loan money to black home buyers who could never service their loans and who never had any intention of paying them off. The debt was then packaged and sold off..... and that's the real scandal.
@xyz061220
@xyz061220 Ай бұрын
Howie Hubler "is" in The Big Short ... when Mark goes into Kathy's office, to his left coming out of an office a male on a cell phone says "You tell Goldman I'm not transferring funds." ...
@kapilsharmaWorld_uncensored
@kapilsharmaWorld_uncensored Жыл бұрын
I stopped trading for a month after losing 3,000 rupees once. = $40
@gtizzle101
@gtizzle101 11 ай бұрын
CDSs weren't invented in 2003 at MS they were created in 1994 at JPM
@Bobhenry-c7z
@Bobhenry-c7z 11 ай бұрын
The most significant lesson I gained from the stock market in 2023 is that uncertainty prevails, emphasizing the importance of humility. Adhering to a long-term strategy with a competitive edge is key.
@VanPelt54u7fcyde57
@VanPelt54u7fcyde57 11 ай бұрын
Certainty eludes everyone; thus, it's vital to establish your own methodology, handle risk, and adhere to your strategy unwaveringly. This commitment should endure challenges and successes, all while maintaining a commitment to ongoing learning and improvement.
@DeannaPeters-lz8we
@DeannaPeters-lz8we 11 ай бұрын
Embracing uncertainty, I realized after five years that attempting to predict market outcomes through chart analysis was futile due to the unpredictable nature. My lack of a mentor led to six years of struggle. I transitioned to following the market's direction and adopting a straightforward, disciplined approach.
@rebeccaartgallary
@rebeccaartgallary 11 ай бұрын
@@DeannaPeters-lz8we Who is the professional who is advising you, if you could perhaps tell us? As a novice investing in stocks without the correct direction of a professional, I have lost a lot of money.
@DeannaPeters-lz8we
@DeannaPeters-lz8we 11 ай бұрын
There are a lot of independent advisors you might look into. But i work with Monica Amanda McClure , and she is excellent. You could proceed with her if she satisfies your discretion. I endorse her
@rebeccaartgallary
@rebeccaartgallary 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, needed this myself. I just looked her page up online and I would say she really does have an impressive background on investing.
@ducknorris233
@ducknorris233 Жыл бұрын
Before the bubble popped I heard for at least a year that it was coming. Mostly from people that had been in the mortgage business but had jumped ship to the industry I was in. It took long enough that I decided it wouldn’t happen and I had no idea how bad it would be how could mortgages be worthless?
@mastpg
@mastpg 11 ай бұрын
You heard because everyone heard.
@ducknorris233
@ducknorris233 11 ай бұрын
@@mastpg thanks
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv 11 ай бұрын
People didn’t want to believe it because it was such an immense inflectional fraud at every stage of the system. That’s hard to believe. But even more so it’s terrifying to imagine happening and even people who may have thought it may happen didn’t want to believe it because as we saw the consequences were horrifying beyond what anybody thought could be possible. But who in their right mind would’ve believed people were writing the mortgage paper that was being written at the time? I mean it’s still hard to imagine that people wrote loans without even bothering to see if somebody made what they said they made.
@ImHavingaCoronary
@ImHavingaCoronary 11 ай бұрын
nice vid. thanks
@hkraytai
@hkraytai 3 ай бұрын
The movie did not mention at the time banks were under pressure to lend money to people with bad or no credit so they could buy houses in the name of fairness and opportunity.
@saltymonke3682
@saltymonke3682 Ай бұрын
Also, it's the US government through Community Development Act who asked them to encourage giving loans to NINJA. Mortgage lenders can be fined and even their license revoked if they refused NINJA.
@luiul1
@luiul1 5 ай бұрын
i've never understood why no one has ever made a comparison video between *the big short* and *margin call* . maybe i should have said *the big short* vs *margin call* .
@mtebor
@mtebor 3 ай бұрын
The one thing the Big Short misses is the fact the govt pressure on banks to give loans to people who couldn’t afford it.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 24 күн бұрын
So isn't a "bad loan" because someone ISN'T paying it off? Isn't a good loan someone who always makes the payments?
@DogWater2011
@DogWater2011 11 ай бұрын
Some people keeps comparing the 2007 collapse to today. If you look into the recession in 80's what we have happening today is very similar to before the recession in the 80's. 🤷‍♂️
@metaqube
@metaqube 11 ай бұрын
Can you please elaborate. How so?
@RyanInterceptor
@RyanInterceptor 11 ай бұрын
This was a great video
@Jaxer4
@Jaxer4 11 ай бұрын
Great idea for a video
@homefrontforge
@homefrontforge 11 ай бұрын
I'm still curious about what happened with the libor scandal...
@dotpenji
@dotpenji Жыл бұрын
Your analysis of the financial crisis and the individuals involved is both insightful and clear. I'm intrigued to know, looking back, do you believe the financial industry has implemented substantial reforms to avoid a recurrence of such a crisis, or are there lingering systemic issues that could potentially lead to another crisis in the future?
@markanthonymanayan2136
@markanthonymanayan2136 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the story of this investor's journey is both fascinating and a powerful reminder of the risks in the financial world since it takes a lot of courage to share these experiences. Really appreciates this shedding light on the ups and downs of investing with us, thank you.
@motivatedbeastph
@motivatedbeastph Жыл бұрын
Could you please create a video explaining the potential outcomes of an A.I. bubble bursting?
@CyrineZee
@CyrineZee Жыл бұрын
I gained a lot of knowledge in this video! Great content!
@ShekinahSol-kv3fp
@ShekinahSol-kv3fp Жыл бұрын
The video provides a detailed and informative overview of the financial crisis of 2008, with a focus on the key players and events. It is well-written and engaging, and it does a good job of explaining complex financial concepts in a way that is easy to understand.
@itsme_jervy1404
@itsme_jervy1404 Жыл бұрын
Hammish, I found your explanation of the financial crisis, especially the stories of key figures like Howard Hubler and the events at Morgan Stanley, incredibly insightful. How do you think the financial industry has changed since the 2008 crisis, and what lessons can we learn from these events to prevent future crises?
@tomsmith6882
@tomsmith6882 Ай бұрын
The explanation on the synthetic CDO bit isn’t quite right I don’t think. They are not insurance on the bonds, they are essentially a bet on the outcome of other people insuring bonds. Like betting with your mate on the outcome of a poker game you aren’t involved in. Hence, synthetic
@gregconover4714
@gregconover4714 Ай бұрын
It didn't help the government made a law that anyone can get a mortgage, hence no income verification needed. While banks etc took advantage of this, it started with the government passing silly laws.
@samahirrao
@samahirrao 3 ай бұрын
Bubbles form on backs of good people where smart people stand holding that bubble. And when it pops, smart rich throws it on the face of good person as it explodes. And that is basically socio-economics.
@101Phase
@101Phase 11 ай бұрын
Hang on, what's the difference between credit default swaps and synthetic CDOs? It sounds like both behave like insurance against bonds?
@roseymalino9855
@roseymalino9855 6 ай бұрын
Synthetic CDOs can be comprised of CDSs and other non-cash assets and is insurance against CDS. Some people say they are awesome. Other say they are effing crazy.
@BHRamsay
@BHRamsay 5 ай бұрын
The movie likens it to betting on the outcome of a blackjack hand, then betting on whether someone betting on that outcome will win their bet and so on and so forth
@wingman-1977
@wingman-1977 Ай бұрын
Honestly, people should have been going to prison for the stuff that was done.
@alphatakes
@alphatakes 5 күн бұрын
just a regurgitation of the movie scenes lol
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