The Biggest Disaster You Never Heard Of (PEMEX LPG Explosion '84)

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The Raven's Eye

The Raven's Eye

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A commercial airline pilot thought a nuclear bomb had gone off - that's how big this terrible explosion was. Hundreds killed, thousands injured, and yet it remains relatively unknown outside of Mexico. This is the story of the PEMEX LPG storage explosion...
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@JGCR59
@JGCR59 6 ай бұрын
"Was somewhat lacking in safety features" is about as much of an understatement as it gets
@cathiehutcheson6556
@cathiehutcheson6556 5 ай бұрын
Texas and Louisiana have similar facilities with little oversight by government agencies since the states block regulations.
@allanmoore4353
@allanmoore4353 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it seems procedures were decidedly lacksidasical. The toll could actually have been worse.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 5 ай бұрын
You should see how they ran nuclear reactors before Chernobyl 😂
@gerrym.9354
@gerrym.9354 5 ай бұрын
Wow, Mexico has deregulation to boost profits just like US!
@348Tobico
@348Tobico 3 күн бұрын
@@cathiehutcheson6556 I'd like to see some proof. Not because I doubt you but I like research and facts.
@sarahfrith1984
@sarahfrith1984 6 ай бұрын
Awful estimated death toll and it’s always horrendous when people can’t be identified or acknowledged as deceased 😔
@EmpireofRust
@EmpireofRust 6 ай бұрын
Pemex is also widely considered to be responsible for the blasts in Guadalajara in the early '90s. Gasoline leaked from one of their facilities and filled the local sewer system.
@mvd4436
@mvd4436 2 ай бұрын
Hard to know what causes it when stealing gas is the next big thing with the cartels.
@Vautour1776
@Vautour1776 6 ай бұрын
I can't deny it, you're right, I haven't heard of it.
@cathyb1273
@cathyb1273 6 ай бұрын
Same, first time I heard of it.
@sarahfrith1984
@sarahfrith1984 6 ай бұрын
I came here to say the exact same thing
@vinceely2906
@vinceely2906 6 ай бұрын
Me too. Strange it only happened a couple of weeks before the tragedy in Bhopal and that was not something I’ve forgotten.
@LoneTiger
@LoneTiger 6 ай бұрын
Mexican here, I heard of it, I was around 10 years old, but I recall the news about it and seeing some home video footage taken from far away in the early morning by some distant neighbors, maybe 8 or 10 kilometers away from the site, the area was a very-low income area so year, imagine a fireball hitting your home then a shockwave.
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 6 ай бұрын
Same, thought it was going to be that fossil fuel tanker explosion in southern Spain, I was wrong.
@alannummy2148
@alannummy2148 6 ай бұрын
Great one, but just for those that don’t know those small propane cylinders virtually never explode in a house fire. The overpressure valve, commonly called the “pop off” kicks in and vents the gas. The result is a loud, screaming blowtorch of flame but no earth shattering kaboom. The small tank in the video didn’t blow either. Can’t see to be sure, but the burn marks around the handle and across the top look like the overpressure protection worked as designed.
@George-vf7ss
@George-vf7ss 6 ай бұрын
Bingo, pay the man.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 6 ай бұрын
The USCSB found that at least post 84, those valves at least in the US were pre Praxair blast (Which Raven's EYe should cover IMO?) were set up to go off at lower pressures than they were meant to however and were weakened each time they were used as per the CSB's vid on the Praxair blast
@alannummy2148
@alannummy2148 6 ай бұрын
@@jacekatalakis8316 That makes a BLEVE even less likely. It was an issue at the St Louis fire because there were hundreds of cylinders containing different gases all stored in very close proximity that suddenly got exposed to a lot of flammable gas fed fire. In a normal house fire, a 20lb cylinder venting early just makes us firefighters jump and briefly soil ourselves a little sooner.
@mariebelladonna437
@mariebelladonna437 6 ай бұрын
@@alannummy2148 wait, "a little sooner"? So, soiling oneself is a normal, common part of firefighters' jobs? Huh. Well. That's not something you see in the videos. I guess it's just one of your lesser known...ahem...duties... 😉😂
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 6 ай бұрын
I'd never heard of this disaster before, but while watching it, a word sounded familiar- Pemex. It's shocking that so much about this tragedy is hidden in the mist of time. Another disaster that involved Pemex was the Guadalajara in 1992. A gasoline leak caused a series of explosions in the city. Like in this disaster, the death toll is given as much lower than what it was. Why haven't Pemex learnt from so many bad disasters over four decades?
@CatMom-uw9jl
@CatMom-uw9jl 6 ай бұрын
That’s the one! I knew I’d heard of Pemex before
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 6 ай бұрын
When you were describing the site I was thinking that, ideally, you'd live as far as possible from it... failing that, right next to it, so you don't have time to know you're dying! Why the frack did they continue pumping to the site for 40 minutes? 🤯 Great presentation, thankyou.
@cjthebeesknees
@cjthebeesknees 6 ай бұрын
Capitalism
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 6 ай бұрын
​​​​​@@cjthebeesknees Pemex (short for Petróleos Mexicanos) is 100% state-owned, fool, like USPS or Amtrak. They have a terrible record because they have a legal monopoly on petroleum and natural gas extraction, refining, and sale in Mexico. If you've ever been to Mexico you may notice that all the gas stations seem to be owned by Pemex. You'd be right. They literally _all_ are. When your only competition consists of the bicycle and walking shoe industries, you get basically the same amount of customer business regardless of how well or poorly you operate. Capitalism isn't perfect because humans aren't perfect, but competition and the profit motive best incentivize humans to be better.
@minellechevalier1748
@minellechevalier1748 6 ай бұрын
Because greed always weighs more than human lives. Oil companies are at the forefront of this! Deepwater Horizon, Exxon Valdez, Piper Alpha ...
@NKP723
@NKP723 6 ай бұрын
Some other (somewhat?) obscure tragedies, or those that I just think are super important, that I'd like to see covered: - Iraq Mercury Fungicide Grain Poisoning - Washington DC Pennsylvania Railroad Runaway Train - Eschede Derailment - Silver Bridge Collapse West Virginia - 2017 DuPont Cascades Train Derailment - Jerusalem Wedding Hall Collapse
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ 6 ай бұрын
Idk if it is that obscure but I feel like the Ramstein Air Show Disaster should be covered given how it seems a lot of modern air shows are forgetting the tragic lessons about crowd control safety learned from it
@spiritthingw
@spiritthingw 6 ай бұрын
There are stories about all those already.
@notablynova
@notablynova 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Fascinating Horror has covered most of them
@johnmartin9823
@johnmartin9823 6 ай бұрын
Bhopal in India?
@fitnessfreak7851
@fitnessfreak7851 6 ай бұрын
I don’t recall the Silver Bridge Disaster being covered? My vote would be for that one
@RandomPerson-lk6cb
@RandomPerson-lk6cb 6 ай бұрын
Apparently I had a uncle work here and it was his day off the day of the explosion. He promptly never worked for PEMEX ever again
@brownwolf152
@brownwolf152 6 ай бұрын
I was the pilot in the airplane that called the traffic tower and informed them of the explosion.
@epiles2
@epiles2 6 ай бұрын
@@brownwolf152 what a small world i was the atc operator that day
@jtgd
@jtgd 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@brownwolf152i was the traffic tower man who received the report jk
@RandomPerson-lk6cb
@RandomPerson-lk6cb 6 ай бұрын
@@epiles2 todos estábamos en México ese día?
@brownwolf152
@brownwolf152 6 ай бұрын
@@jtgd i knew I recognized your texting.
@scarpfish
@scarpfish 6 ай бұрын
I remember when this happened because the Bhopal disaster happened just two weeks later. Both gave me an ugly introduction to how cheap human life is often considered in developing countries in regards to industrial safety.
@benwinter2420
@benwinter2420 6 ай бұрын
What is the real value of life in developing countries ?
@burtbacarach5034
@burtbacarach5034 6 ай бұрын
@@benwinter2420 In Mexico it's $10400 apparently.
@fixitman2174
@fixitman2174 5 ай бұрын
Human life is cheap to corporations everywhere. It's just easier to throw away in developing countries.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 5 ай бұрын
@@fixitman2174because their government don’t provide them worker protections
@AussiePom
@AussiePom 4 ай бұрын
Well in what are now regarded as first world countries in the not to distant past human life was cheap. For before WW2 there was no universal healthcare, no paid sick leave and no pensions. If you got very sick you either got better on your own or you died. People worked themselves into an early grave so no need for pensions. If you got injured at work and couldn't work and you went on the parish relief. Usually your wife divorced you simply to find a working man to feed the numerous kids you had and he would add his own and if your kids were older and working then they helped support you. Many people fought pitched battles with police to fight for better working conditions and better remuneration that the employers did everything to avoid for it cut into their profits. These days many young people take it for granted and want to give away all these hard fought for rights. Employers have moved overseas because they know they can make huge profits at the expense of the people who make things for them so the employer class has not changed it's mindset. When the Chinese get too expensive for them then they'll moved to another country to exploit their people for their sacred profits. One African country still has child labor what the now first world countries had in the 18th and 19th century before it was outlawed.
@MrBruinman86
@MrBruinman86 6 ай бұрын
Seems that a reoccurring theme is companies don't learn their lesson unless they have to. Clearly PEMEX wasn't forced to.
@bebolino100
@bebolino100 6 ай бұрын
Pemex never learn their lesson from this tragedy. There were more deadly tragedies in the next years to 1984 and there was no justice.
@RandomPerson-lk6cb
@RandomPerson-lk6cb 6 ай бұрын
With PRI letting do whatever they didn’t have to learn from their mistakes
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 6 ай бұрын
With a legal monopoly on petroleum extraction, refining, and sales in Mexico, Pemex has only political pressure (no profit motive) to do better.
@TUPELO_HUNNY
@TUPELO_HUNNY 6 ай бұрын
BOEING is another
@sandyatkins6978
@sandyatkins6978 6 ай бұрын
Purely business decision: why spend hundreds of millions in safety measures when tens of millions in bribes to the ruling elite will keep your enterprise profitable.
@Byzmax
@Byzmax 6 ай бұрын
Your government cares not a jot about your life... No matter where you live
@glennzanotti3346
@glennzanotti3346 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in a refinery town in Texas. I do remember this explosion. LPG (propane) is heavier than air, so the gas cloud would have hovered near the ground, and spread until it found an ignition source. LNG (liquified natural gas, or methane) is lighter than air, and would have risen upward. If it found an ignition source, it also would have exploded, but it probably would have been less catastrophic. That propane near the ground could have spread all over the facility before igniting, causing the subsequent explosions described in the video. In the US, just as in Mexico, it is poor people who generally live closest to the refineries, chemical plants and storage facilities. That makes it easier for governments and companies to play down the death toll. It is easy to pretend poor people didn't exist. Cancer rates among the poor living near the refineries in my hometown have high rates of cancer, but nobody cares.
@gerry4b
@gerry4b 6 ай бұрын
Tip of the hat. Well researched, very well written. and well presented. Always appreciate when a KZbinr allows the facts to explain a story, rather than the many who try to substitute their emotions for narrative. Subscribed.
@George-vf7ss
@George-vf7ss 6 ай бұрын
"Somewhat lacking in safety features." 😂
@spacewolfjr
@spacewolfjr 6 ай бұрын
Some of the USCSB videos pronounce BLEVE as a single word like B-LEV-EE
@ianh1989
@ianh1989 6 ай бұрын
I've heard it pronounced this way as well.
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 6 ай бұрын
To allow housing to be built so close to the plant was criminal. Not have even rudimentary safety feature meant the negligent should have been held to account but I'm sure that never happened.
@bebolino100
@bebolino100 6 ай бұрын
Here in México this housing was without any regulation. First, the surrounded area of the plant was occupied by people that emigrated from rural places to the Mexico City Metropolitan Area. The houses were selfmaded.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 4 ай бұрын
Often plants, airports, racetracks and the like are intentionally built out from towns to avoid problems, but often the towns grow to encompass them. Sometimes the new residents who knew what was already there complain enough to get those places closed down when it was their own fault for the problem affecting them. Governments don't care about anything until it might cost somebody the next election, then they choose whatever solution will get them the most votes.
@ItsJustLisa
@ItsJustLisa 6 ай бұрын
My mom had a coworker for many years who was from Mexico City originally. Her parents still lived there when this happened so I remember Elia telling us about it. Her father was a physician and hadn’t yet retired when this happened. I think he ended up having some of the victims from further away from the plant as patients.
@spacewolfjr
@spacewolfjr 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting, I definitely hadn't heard of this accident before.
@TheMouseAvenger
@TheMouseAvenger 2 ай бұрын
It's about TIME that someone make a video about this! :D I've become interested in this tragedy, thanks to a documentary uploaded on YT; it's called "The Day The Sky Caught Fire". You guys should check it out. :-) And it's narrated by none other than the great Orson Welles in, what I believe, is his very last role. Anyway, your video on this is very well-done, & I'd love to see other disaster-themed channels cover the topic more. :-) Great job! ❤
@joeylawn36111
@joeylawn36111 4 ай бұрын
In 1992, something similar happened in Guadalajara, this time with gasoline instead of LPG. An underground gasoline pipeline ruptured due to galvanic corrosion, flooding the sewers with gasoline and fumes. It found an ignition source, and there was a massive explosion. Over 200 people were killed (probably a _lot_ more), over 500 injured, and damages were between half a billion and 1 billion $'s.
@peronik349
@peronik349 6 ай бұрын
when political expectations, such as elections, interfere with the reality of the facts about a catastrophe (like the death toll or the responsibilities of elected officials) we ALWAYS end up with stupidities. in this kind 2 French cases come to me: there was the eruption of the Montagne Pelée in Martinique in 1902, despite the very clearly evident threats the municipality prohibited evacuations because of municipal elections: the catastrophe took place 4 day before the election, the death toll was "around" 30,000. or the catastrophe of the “courrière” mine in 1906 the official count was stopped at 1099! but 300 to 500 other minors were never seen alive again. the realistic estimate seemed to the authorities of the capital as politically "unthinkable" so the account was stopped.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 6 ай бұрын
Thought it was a nuclear explosion well it was 1984 after all. I remember those times.
@SpearFisher85
@SpearFisher85 6 ай бұрын
"Babe wake up! New Ravens Eye just dropped!"
@kevinsimpson3733
@kevinsimpson3733 6 ай бұрын
Holy crap that last explosion about made my heart stop
@jenniferbrewer5370
@jenniferbrewer5370 6 ай бұрын
You're right, I had never heard of this. Truly horrific. Thank you for covering these lesser-known disasters.
@seanaguilar1637
@seanaguilar1637 6 ай бұрын
Love all your Videos. Always look forward to them. Great detail, narration, and overall addictive content. Never even heard of 90% of these heavy events in history. Thanks for being them to light. Keep up the good work🙂👍
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 6 ай бұрын
You could very well do a mini series on all the disasters Pemex have been involved in over the years or alledged to have been involved in. IMO one of the reasons this isn't well known is both Bhopal and the 1985 Mexico City earthquake happened and both overshadowed the Pemex explosion however.
@ramblingrob4693
@ramblingrob4693 6 ай бұрын
Write a book
@fridaalmaraz6381
@fridaalmaraz6381 6 ай бұрын
I was 9 at the time. I remember adults and people at school talking about how horrifying it was. I wasn't allowed to see the news at the time, so I only had a vague idea of what had really happened. I was terrified of turning on the stove, though. Then a year later the earthquake came and all my memories of this tragedy were replaced by the horrors of the earthquake. I had to actively research San Juanico as an adult to understand what had happened.
@fridaalmaraz6381
@fridaalmaraz6381 6 ай бұрын
Just an fyi, it's pronounced like "San Juaniko"
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 6 ай бұрын
Bravo Zulu on correctly pronouncing Mexicano. You might be the first British person I’ve ever heard correctly pronounce a Spanish word.
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 6 ай бұрын
Jajaja 🙃
@v-town1980
@v-town1980 6 ай бұрын
The Spanish aren't too good at pronouncing English words, so...
@generalkayel
@generalkayel 6 ай бұрын
always love your videos, little snippets of history I have usually never heard about before.
@ComaDave
@ComaDave 6 ай бұрын
Pitiful EMergency EXample.
@SkipperMacky
@SkipperMacky 6 ай бұрын
How in the utterly gobsmackingly fook did they not shut off the inlet valve?! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️ .... i can just imagine taking a walk around a chemical plant pre 1990 and being more than a little shocked at the lack of safety measures in place. I've had the privilege of working at a high end plant that (luckily for me) didn't focus on just 1 product.. we were the guys you come and ask for solutions to a problem you've encountered and need chemical engineers. It was BEYOND fascinating! .. and safety was taken SO seriously that we were very proud of our relatively clean record. I'll never understand shareholders and CEO's etc not taking workers safety seriously.. like _oh yeah, there's Billy. He's the best at was he does, we've spent 100's of 1000's of pounds on his training.. he's perfect at it now and production is breaking records. Now let's look the other way when they say they need to be safe.."_
@dennis2376
@dennis2376 6 ай бұрын
May they rest in peace. Thank you.
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki 5 ай бұрын
The biggest disaster most people haven't heard of is also the worst industrial accident (and third worst flood) ever: Banqiao Dam. In 1975 it failed, setting off a chain reaction which then destroyed dozens of other dams. In the end, it made millions of people homeless and killed *at least* 25,000. But this occurred in China, so getting information about it is still difficult.
@thepotentate3777
@thepotentate3777 6 ай бұрын
I remember my dad telling me about this acouple months ago. He saw it in the news on the day it happened
@thepotentate3777
@thepotentate3777 6 ай бұрын
@bdphotog6785 as if it was very important to us in the first place, a disaster happening in other side of the country
@gerardo8av
@gerardo8av 5 ай бұрын
Very thorough and comprehensive! The site/town should be pronounced as ‘San Juaniko’, not ‘San Juaniso’.
@calyodelphi124
@calyodelphi124 6 ай бұрын
For future reference, if you cover any disasters with BLEVEs, you can pronounce BLEVE as a word: "Bleh-VEE". The initialism is in this case an acronym. :)
@Alphawolf2325
@Alphawolf2325 6 ай бұрын
Very nice and well informative video!
@TheMouseAvenger
@TheMouseAvenger 2 ай бұрын
One other little correction: "B.L.E.V.E." is generally pronounced as "BLEH-vee".
@sirawesomenessi1796
@sirawesomenessi1796 6 ай бұрын
Lunch time upload!
@chrismoore600
@chrismoore600 3 ай бұрын
Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion. Blast Levels Everything Very Efficiently.
@348Tobico
@348Tobico 3 күн бұрын
I am always impressed at the abysmal safety record for EVERYTHING in Mexico. If there is a way to put absurdly numerous people in great jeopardy and then MAKE SURE THAT JEOPARDY BECOMES TRAGEDY.... well you will find that happening in Mexico. This type of negligence TOWARD THEIR OWN populace shows how little ALL of Mexico's political and business class care about human life. And yet tourists world wide flock to Mexico and they become part of the "AT RISK" population. The safety measures that are part of COMMON SENSE for the rest of the so-called First World countries SIMPLY DO NOT EXIST IN MEXICO. Life is cheap in Mexico and the citizens know this and seem to accept it as "fate". At 9:35 Jose' Hispanosa verifies this attitude. PEMEX HAS NO REASON TO IMPROVE THEIR SAFETY RECORD SINCE IT MIGHT COST THEM A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND MURDERING MEXICAN CITIZENS IS THE COST OF THEM DOING BUSINESS. People everywhere get treated the way they deserve by business and politicians. Very sad but very true.
@TheMouseAvenger
@TheMouseAvenger 2 ай бұрын
Oh, & for future reference, Spanish names like Juanico end in the "KOH" sound. :-)
@jackmonaghan8477
@jackmonaghan8477 6 ай бұрын
Pemex also played a part in the 1992 explosions in Guadalajara.
@jaylamb1097
@jaylamb1097 6 ай бұрын
Always look forward to your videos 👏🏾
@AnUndeadMonkey
@AnUndeadMonkey 6 ай бұрын
BLEVE is pronounced bleh-vee and they are TERRIFYING.
@pommiegirl8079
@pommiegirl8079 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting subject. Thanks for the upload!
@eduardoalamo1240
@eduardoalamo1240 6 ай бұрын
Man, I'm mexican and I didn't know about this, but it doesn't surprise me, Pemex has never been a very efficient company, and, due to being a legal monopoly, to this day it costs the state billions of pesos a year just to keep it afloat.
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 6 ай бұрын
If anything the company should be keeping the government afloat.
@jonnda
@jonnda 6 ай бұрын
Does "PEMEX" sound like a type of high explosive to anyone else, or is it just me?
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 6 ай бұрын
To understand the rich history of safety failures by Pemex (short for Petróleos Mexicanos), it must be understood that it's 100% state-owned, like USPS and Amtrak are in the U.S. Having a legal monopoly on fossil fuel extraction, refining, and sale in Mexico, the people who run Pemex have only political pressure and conscience-no profit motive-incentivizing them to do better. The CEO is appointed by politicians and any profit goes to the Mexican treasury. Its executive suite is a source of lucrative patronage positions with which politicians have paid off their friends. Their primary competition consists of the bicycle and walking shoe industries, so they're not very concerned with keeping their customers _wanting_ to do business with them. It also means that trying to recover damages from Pemex in court is basically the same as trying to recover them from the Mexican state. As it does everywhere, the law serves the state more than any other party.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 5 ай бұрын
Note: Amtrak is not 100% state-owned and the United States Postal Service is not a monopoly; thus, neither is an entirely fair comparison with Pemex, which is both.
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 5 ай бұрын
😂 “profit” Pemex is $100 billion in debt, you don’t even understand your own reasons for speaking out against them 😂 as though any of the average people in Mexico would have gotten a penny from the extraction of their countries oil 🙄
@HiDefHDMusic
@HiDefHDMusic 5 ай бұрын
@@ZGryphonthey rewrote the constitution in 2013 and have been trying to privatize the industry ever since, which has caused nationwide unrest, protests and riots like when the government stopped subsidizing the cost of oil and it rose 20%😂
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 5 ай бұрын
@@ZGryphon USPS has a legal monopoly on regular mail service. You can only compete with them on parcels and express mail.
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 5 ай бұрын
@@HiDefHDMusic Just about every big business has debt. Having debt doesn't mean a business never turns a profit. You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. As if not a single "average" Mexican would get a job working at an oil extraction business in Mexico and the Mexican government would charge no royalties.
@brucewall1600
@brucewall1600 3 ай бұрын
My dad saw this live on television. He was apart of the 85 Mexico Earthquake too. He's told so many stories of both incidents and many many more.
@alexanderveritas
@alexanderveritas 4 ай бұрын
_I fell into a burnin' ring of fire_ _I went down, down, down_ _And the flames went higher_ _And it burns, burns, burns_ _The ring of fire, the ring of fire_
@ramirogarcia1967
@ramirogarcia1967 3 ай бұрын
I could hear the explosions from My bedroom. They woke me up. The flames could be seen and we lived many km away.
@emghee2510
@emghee2510 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for not showing photos of the aftermath from the magazine "La Alarma".
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 6 ай бұрын
Yes - those photos really do bring home the true awfulness of what happened, but they are very upsetting to see. I try to keep my videos informative and hopefully get across the tragedy, without having to use the "worst" photos....
@saharaabdala6297
@saharaabdala6297 Ай бұрын
It was just "Alarma!". And yes, all whose saw it, never will forget...
@fakefake1938
@fakefake1938 4 ай бұрын
U forgot Guadalajara explosions of the 04/22
@xcar0982
@xcar0982 5 ай бұрын
They didn't learned their lesson, because until recent years, Pemex was the only oil company operating in Mexico, now that there are more companies, they will need to do something.
@debbieellett9093
@debbieellett9093 6 ай бұрын
How absolutely terrifying! Thank you for sharing, I hadn't heard of this before. I can't imagine what those victims went through.🙏🙏🙏
@edcew8236
@edcew8236 3 ай бұрын
If you think that safety is expensive, consider the alternative...
@stuartf2946
@stuartf2946 6 ай бұрын
Hello Mr Raven. I have been watching the great videos but have not commented lately. It is awful how these large companies downplay the numbers of dead and injured. I can no longer see the buy me a coffee icon, can you help?
@theravenseye9443
@theravenseye9443 6 ай бұрын
Hello Stuart F - the link is in the description. Cheers bud!
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing us this unknown case, Raven's Eye 👍
@Truckngirl
@Truckngirl 6 ай бұрын
Your pronunciation of Spanish is spicy and correct!
@luisvivanco3751
@luisvivanco3751 6 ай бұрын
Here in Mexico was a real big new story even a rock band named el tri made a song about the San Juanico explotion
@Tina-d8f
@Tina-d8f 6 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thanks.
@iagrams9100
@iagrams9100 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard of this. Thank you for bringing it to the public’s attention.
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 6 ай бұрын
Excellent coverage of the Pemex catastrophe; for anyone who wants to know more about BLEVE accidents, I recommend the books of Trevor Kletz, a trailblazing British safety engineer who passed away a few years ago.
@RedDragon-k6r
@RedDragon-k6r 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy the quality service received each visit to PEMEX stations
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 6 ай бұрын
You're paying through the nose for it.
@RachelEvans680
@RachelEvans680 6 ай бұрын
Greed, corruption and cover ups ...the world could well do without these..😒
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 6 ай бұрын
In the case of Pemex, most of the greed is on the part of politicians. Pemex is entirely owned by the Mexican government. Like the USPS or Amtrak, the people who run it have little to no financial incentive to operate it better.
@charlesklein1224
@charlesklein1224 6 ай бұрын
It is mexico what did you think they would do.
@jessicamilestone4026
@jessicamilestone4026 6 ай бұрын
Been wondering why you got rid of the crow sound effects on the intro music.
@David19553
@David19553 5 ай бұрын
Excellent channel. Live long and prosper.
@rtqii
@rtqii 6 ай бұрын
I was in Mexico in the 1980's and they had a H2S blowout in Tamaulipas that killed two crews of oil workers.
@donaldlyons537
@donaldlyons537 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for another tragic disaster revealed. Very sad... but some lessons learned, hopefully! May the victims RIP
@Barbara-yh3gg
@Barbara-yh3gg 4 ай бұрын
Satan and his henchmen had a field day with that one.
@Initial_Gopnik
@Initial_Gopnik 6 ай бұрын
Theres a Mexican rock group called El Tri that dedicated the song San Juanico to this disaster, the lyrics are very moving.
@davidhudson5452
@davidhudson5452 6 ай бұрын
New to me low count heard this before in Mexico Pemex Gasoline
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 6 ай бұрын
Nice find, you are correct that it's a more rare/unknown one. Listen to a podcast and watch a lot of these disaster videos and at least I was unaware of it.
@boblordylordyhowie
@boblordylordyhowie 6 ай бұрын
In November 1984 I was recovering from being burned in a domestic propane explosion and I don't remember this news story, so, you are right about it disappearing into oblivion.
@lofthouse23
@lofthouse23 6 ай бұрын
I feel a PEMEX cock-ups follow up videos are needed after watching this. I'm also glad a memorial is in place despite all the sweeping under the carpet going on in the aftermath.
@regular-joe
@regular-joe 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Well covered. Notes on sources of photos and footage were also very appreciated. New subscriber.
@dhall4363
@dhall4363 6 ай бұрын
Back in the early 1990`s footage of this disaster was used in a safety induction that I participated in. The plant that I worked at had a potential blast radius of five kilometers and the nearest town was two kilometers away. That plant at that time also was somewhat lacking in safety features. The pilot reporting the initial explosion would have been thinking a war had started.
@donpardo2510
@donpardo2510 3 ай бұрын
There's too many countries that put safety low on the priority list then lie when something goes wrong. They know who they are.
@SerenityNow666
@SerenityNow666 Ай бұрын
Yeah they are usually mud holes
@28DAYS77
@28DAYS77 6 ай бұрын
This companies always get always with 😒😒
@ftorresgamez
@ftorresgamez 6 ай бұрын
PEMEX is a government-owned company and a monopoly.
@foreverpinkf.7603
@foreverpinkf.7603 6 ай бұрын
Viva la corruption!
@skylineXpert
@skylineXpert 6 ай бұрын
Havent heard about this disaster until now. damn its crazy
@wozouf9515
@wozouf9515 6 ай бұрын
Great work on this and all your productions. I was alive at that time and yet never heard of it.
@bleakvisions655
@bleakvisions655 6 ай бұрын
Have you come across the Sunderland Victoria Hall disaster? I just read about it and was horrified.
@dk50b
@dk50b 6 ай бұрын
I recall hearing about this explosion, but no details. The information presented is much appreciated. Worth noting is that San Juanico, also known as San Juan Ixhuatepec, isn't a town or township. Neither of those exist in Mexico, and San Juanico is actually a locality within the Municipality of Tlalnepantla de Baz.
@marypasco2213
@marypasco2213 6 ай бұрын
Greed, 'what safety procedures?', corruption.......The list goes on. And is still there.
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 6 ай бұрын
About the "combined explosive power" of LPG in this facility - your comparison is rather inaccurate, as hydrocarbons ARE NOT explosives per se. With any of these (TNT, ammonium perchlorate/ nitrate or such) it is OK to make such parallel, but LPG cannot explode on its own as it lacks any oxidising agent. Only when mixed with air (oxygen in it) it can explode, but this is not what it happens in situations like this one here - only a tiny portion of LPG actually "exploded", the rest just burned - rather fast, but nowhere even near the speed of the explosions of LPG-air mixture. Which itself is a rather slow deflagration "explosion", not the "proper" explosion of any high explosive - and that makes A LOT of difference in destructive power. Think of pushing a heavy door, fast, with your hand, vs kicking it hard with your foot - vs. using shotgun shell operated breaking ram. The first method won't do any damage, and this represents "fast burning off" of released LPG after the initial explosion (even if that was secondary one). The kicking represents deflagration - it may damage the door, but only so much. The ram represents true explosion, and it will absolutely wreck the door. So, three different results, the total energy involved is "about the same", and the difference is caused only by the speed the energy is delivered. PS: - and then there's this silly mixing of physical rupture of a propane-butane tank (aka LPG cylinder) due to, say, heat boiling off the LPG inside too quickly (as may happen in the case of fire) AND the subsequent explosion of released propane and butane vapours. And such inaccuracies in your videos do put me off of them. Also - that "pumping of LPG from refineries" might "continue" not because someone forgot to shut off the supply (or never thought of it in the, erm... heat of the moment), but simply because the pipelines themselves hold certain volume of whatever medium is being sent by them, so even if someone shut off the supply immediately (which might not be possible due to technical reasons and/ or limitations), the LPG already in these pipelines would continue to be released "at the other end" of it, now ruptured. And then, fires WERE NOT "brought under control" - it looks like all LPG there just burned off, so the bonfire just ceased to burn.
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 6 ай бұрын
That explosion at the PEMEX office tower seems kind of ironic.
@felipecardoza9967
@felipecardoza9967 6 ай бұрын
Compare this disaster to the 1988 PEPCON disaster which had the advantage of occuring out in the desert ( at the time) claiming only 2 lives ( a supervisor and disabled person at PEPCON who couldnt evacuate fast enough) even though their product, rocket fuel, produced a massive explosion- caught on camera from a nearby mountain.
@TheThisisliving
@TheThisisliving 5 ай бұрын
Goverment agency's are never good. No madder what country they are in. WE THE PEOPLE is not included with goverments. Any goverment, any where.
@mcb187
@mcb187 6 ай бұрын
Haven’t there been like, 4 mass casualty explosions caused by PEMEX being an absolute joke of a petrochemical company?
@felixtheswiss
@felixtheswiss 6 ай бұрын
I saw the aftermath of the Algerian gas liquidification plant Skikda in 2004, scary stuff.
@Carlos44
@Carlos44 6 ай бұрын
BLEVE pronounced BLEV-ee.
@SpinningSidekick
@SpinningSidekick 6 ай бұрын
That person in the white pickup truck at the end seemed to not know that reversing or uturning was an option
@monus782
@monus782 Ай бұрын
I grew up in Mexico at the very end of the one party dictatorship it had for decades and I knew about the monopoly PEMEX had until relatively recently, I may have heard of this incident but I’ve never known the details though.
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 5 күн бұрын
I'm surprised there are enough Mexicans left in Mexico to run a plant this size. Most of them are here working for Google and Spectrum.
@Collateralcoffee
@Collateralcoffee 6 ай бұрын
There are things like "LCD display", which do not make sense, since the D already stands for display. Same with BLEVE. It stands for "Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapour Explosion". So, if you say or write BLEVE explosion, that is kinda stupid, is it not?
@suzannepatterson5548
@suzannepatterson5548 6 ай бұрын
I saw this couple of years back. It was discussed while explaining the Pemex Guadalajara story Sorry. Still watched it again
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