The Biggest Myth About the Kemper

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John Nathan Cordy

John Nathan Cordy

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@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
Fittingly, I missed the first page of amp parameters, all of which are pretty consequential: Definition, Power Sagging, Pick and Compressor....
@geoffreymerrifield5666
@geoffreymerrifield5666 3 жыл бұрын
Only falls out of favor when believing the hype. Happens in every industry. What is shiny and new... Time reveals gold vs ungold. And... Kemper is Solid Gold!!
@cmd_f5
@cmd_f5 3 жыл бұрын
You've shown off and explained more about what the Kemper does in like 15 minutes than several hours of other people saying it's either great or utter rubbish. Hats off, sir. I didn't know how powerful this thing was. Thank you! 🎸🍻
@slash196
@slash196 3 жыл бұрын
Kemper allows you to change so many unique parameters that no other digital solution even seems to have. I love being able to add a bit of clean signal into any distorted amp, use the low/high shift in the cabinets to sweeten sounds...not to mention the effects! Kemper Drive is a GREAT-sounding drive.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
I do need to dig back into that Kemper Drive, I remember it being super useful
@playmoreguitar5393
@playmoreguitar5393 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how 6 months ago the Kemper sounded amazing, now all the bedroom rockers think it sounds average.... The industry as a whole has become somewhat of a joke. But as long as the money keeps flowing and consumerism reigns, music dies slowly. Kemper is still Awesome, so is the Helix... for my namesake.. Play more guitar please, everyone...... edit* John have you tried the FAS Nuclear-Tone, think its amp 177. Would love to hear your thoughts on it! Cant get a FM3 to try for myself. Seeing I play a Swart primarily, im looking to retire it to the music room and get a FM3 as my weekend warrior unit.
@davman115
@davman115 3 жыл бұрын
Kemper used prices are still on the high side, which would not happen if people thought they were crap. The Kemper is no longer great is just part of the Quad Cortex hype which has put me off giving that company my money.
@danc3746
@danc3746 3 жыл бұрын
Yup...and in another 3 to 4 years there will be yet another modeler the is "better" then the Quad Cortex...Its all about $$$$$$
@lukather1
@lukather1 3 жыл бұрын
@@danc3746 nope ! Modelling is coming to its pinnacle ! Diminishing returns ! The Axefx 3 and quad are way more performant and processing power that is needed to copy an amp ! Feel and “room” and latency and bloom are for the cork stiffers ! If you can hear or feel a difference it’s in your head ! Spent 10 years trying to convince myself my amps where different and better ?!!!!😎🤪🤪🤪🤪🎸
@serpensnovus9869
@serpensnovus9869 3 жыл бұрын
A real musician talking about how to use the tools of the trade to do a better job. Thanks John.
@mattiasu96
@mattiasu96 2 жыл бұрын
As a Computer scientist with some experience in DSP and AI I can tell that the myth of "static sound" is true, the problem is people not knowing what does it mean really and just using this claim to support "fanboys" wars. To make this point clearer, it is true that with Kemper (and as far as I know, also with other profiling devices) you can only have static profiles. However, this claim has to be interpreted in the right way. Modern profilers can learn how to reproduce a given sound quite accurately. However, they are only exposed to the output of the amplifier -> they have no idea of HOW the amplifier behave when its parameters change, how turning the gain knob really impacts the sound for the very specific amplifier. So the current state of the art devices basically learn how to mimic the "listened" sound and then apply generic post processing to it (increase high, lows, gain and so on). And this explains why the more you change the original sound with extra parameters, the more it becomes "unrealistic" if compared to the real amplifier. To sum up: it is TRUE that the Kemper allows only static profiles in the sense that it is not able to model the knob behaviour of that very specific amplifier; it is FALSE that allows only static profiles in the sense that you can not change them at all. Being able also to model the behaviour of knobs and how the sound responds to such changes (in a very specific amplifier) is still an open problem in the research field and also quite complex. For the more curious people, there are actually some techniques that allow to theoretically map also knobs using neural networks, however there are some problems with the feasibility of such approach (it will imply the user to move the knobs at very very very specific positions for each one of them, which results in a basically terrible user experience to profile an amp, and also there are some problems with computational efficiency)
@andrebrito3816
@andrebrito3816 2 жыл бұрын
The ultimate and only correct and Self explanatory comnent to this topic! Thank you
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thx for sharing
@seanchristopher740
@seanchristopher740 3 жыл бұрын
I love the info you've brought to light in this video! So many people have such a skewed vision of what the Kemper actually is and how it works and how Profiles work. The level of tweakability in the Kemper is what makes Profiles usable to people beyond the Pofiler in the first place. It's great that you brought this all to light for more people. And the many things you can tweak when working with Profiles, so far seem to all be things things that the QC lacks. The concept of being "stuck" with a Profile at certain settings doesn't truly apply to the Kemper, but might be actually somewhat true for the QC. After all, the QC only has Gain and 3 band EQ, and that's exactly what uninformed people mistakenly thought Kemper Profiles were like. That was a big criticism that people made without realizing you can tweak a whole bunch of parameters that affect the fundamental tone of the Profile in ways that typical EQ can't, as well as swap out the cab section and experiment with different Cab sections from Profiles or IRs. Without that tweakability, the QC Captures actually are the stripped down and limited version of Profiles that people thought so negatively of before. And it's pretty crazy that such a huge drawback is so overlooked when comparisons are made. I think this info gives a lot of great info for people looking into buying a modeler/Profiler and it makes the comparison a lot clearer. I think all of the stuff you said needed to be said because all the vids and comparisons coming out seem to be so contradictory to the info about the Kemper from before and its a very skewed vision of it being pushed right now. Truth needs to be told. It doesn't make the QC a bad unit. And the QC coming out, especially doesn't make the Kemper any less of a great unit and it still sounds great and feels great to play. I think people need to hear that and at least have some info that comes from a place that isn't just hopping on the hype train for views lol. I dig your honesty! Love your vids and mad props on your masterful playing, my friend! 😀
@lanceholland
@lanceholland 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I’ve been shocked at these KZbin influencers comparing the QC to the Kemper when doing a capture. They don’t bother doing the profile refinement step or bother to adjust the settings on the profile to dial it in. Then they proclaim the QC is clearly better. I’m glad you’ve also shown that profiles aren’t static. I’ve stopped buying so many profile now that I understand the Kemper (sorry HW). I can make almost any profile sound like another amp with a few knob twists.
@juanvaldez5422
@juanvaldez5422 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's as if some people dont realize there are knobs on the dam thing...
@davidriggs8196
@davidriggs8196 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that annoys me most about the whole Kemper / Cortex debate is this obsession with sounding exactly like the amp being profiled. What I am looking for is a sound that I like. If that doesn't sound like the amp, well I couldn't give a monkey. Thank you for the reminder of how the profile can be manipulated. Actually, I use the editor almost exclusively, which incidentally is much easier to understand the flow and order of altering sound. I rarely use the menu on the Kemper anymore for sound tweaking.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's so strange that in very recent memory we had people unable to distinguish in most cases in a blind test to now - "it was never really that accurate" or "there's something in the low mids"
@davidriggs8196
@davidriggs8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy I quite agree. Do you use the editor?
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidriggs8196 I don't so much actually no - it doesn't seem so slick to me - do you get on with it ok?
@davidriggs8196
@davidriggs8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Well you are certainly right that it is not a slick interface. Perhaps that is why I quite like it. There are a lot of functions that I value. You can lock parameters such as the input efx, pre and post as well as the amp. Which can be useful when auditioning a number of similar profiles.# You can adjust all the parameters for say, the amp on one page. So in another instance crafting the Delay settings is so much easier that going through the menu to find the setting you want. You can easily find the efx you want to add to the efx slot You can reoder the efx easily by drag and drop. You can archive your profiles. Reorganise you profiles. Reorder your performances Rename easily I could go on. I think you get the idea that the editor is a great time saver and makes it easier to experiment with the Kemper.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidriggs8196 wait wait what...how do you do that locking pre and post FX stuff?!!
@bartlettpsj
@bartlettpsj 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on demo. You realized definition makes a huge difference. I love adding Sag too. The one thing that is frustrating with some Kemper comparison demos is how the Kemper comes over wooly/muffled/dull compared to original amp or even QC. It definitely doesn’t have to be that way after you tweak.
@flowryan5829
@flowryan5829 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get your Kemper to do the light show? I haven‘t figured it out yet.
@batpigguitar
@batpigguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god, finally someone has talked about this. Great points all round. As always killer playing.
@joachimprue-volcker6746
@joachimprue-volcker6746 3 жыл бұрын
How did you made the LEDs flashing randomly :)
@peterdentremont7296
@peterdentremont7296 3 жыл бұрын
Right I want disco mode!
@xguitarist_
@xguitarist_ 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re talking about the beginning, that’s from the camera’s rolling shutter. It’s not visible in person and only shows up on camera (though it’d be cool to make my kemper do a little light show!)
@TLMuse
@TLMuse 3 жыл бұрын
Good point about varied behavior from a preset. And the idea of seeking a Dumble-esque tone by adding clean tone was new to me! But just to be extra clear, the controls have not been modeled from the amp you've captured; it's not possible to do that without actually varying (jointly!) *all* of the controls on the amp as part of a (hypothetical) all-variables capture. The controls are working in some kind of "generic" manner. So the knobs won't do to the captured tone what your captured amp's knobs would do. You didn't say they would; I'm just trying to be extra-clear about it. I don't own a Kemper, so learning about controls like Clarity, Pure Cabinet, Character, etc., really helped me appreciate the Kemper's capabilities. It's really building a new amp for you, using the captured amp as a departure point. Thanks for clarifying that for me. -Tom PS: I don't know if this is a new (hopefully temporary) YT issue, but I'm seeing a lot more ads on your channel than I used to, and more than on any other channel I watch. A 15 min video with 3 ad interruptions through it (one of them a double ad), in addition to the ad just before end, is a bit much!
@ur2funkyyoutube
@ur2funkyyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Did miss my first "go-to" tweak though, 'Definition' control.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
YEH! I missed the first page of the menu - super powerful controls there!
@ur2funkyyoutube
@ur2funkyyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
​@@johnnathancordy Sorry, I missed you had already mentioned this before I posted. Once again, great video, and great tones! You really have an ear for it. Thanks again!
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ur2funkyyoutube no you're totally right to mention it as they're super powerful
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 3 жыл бұрын
Kemper is my favourite digital thing, don’t need nothing else. Quad Cortex seems to be focused on hi gain or metal tones I don’t play that styles. I am a VOX/Fender guy
@aaronashear3002
@aaronashear3002 3 жыл бұрын
Has more to do with marketing and who reviews it than the device’s limitations. People who make these products are aware guitarists like vintage tones. They are in there.
@MultiGuitarDave
@MultiGuitarDave 3 жыл бұрын
John, for me the best and clearest Kemper Profiler explanation yet. I can continue with this. I would have liked your profiles but unfortunately I don't have a credit card. A transaction to you is only possible for credit card holders. But I will continue to follow you on KZbin.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
Shoot me an email I'll send them anyway! Also I missed the first page of parameters which are probably even more influential!
@ElmerFerrer
@ElmerFerrer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Loving my Kemper here! Is there a way to buy those Electradyne profiles? Sounds amazing!
@TJauernigElectronics
@TJauernigElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Are the profiles in this video still available? They sound great!
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 2 жыл бұрын
They are!
@TJauernigElectronics
@TJauernigElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy how do I get them? The link in the video didn’t get me anywhere. Thanks
@dansguitarheaven
@dansguitarheaven 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion/tutorial and I certainly learned a lot. Ive been sold on ,y Kemper going on 5 years now and just learned a ton of stuff in 15 minutes. Thank you!!!!
@Arthur_My_Dear
@Arthur_My_Dear 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great demonstration and very timely. The fault-finding has been like obsessing over fonts when reviewing a book. “Too much added gain/compression/lower mids” etc, etc. Genius to door-stop overnight. One thing I’d like to know though: you made about 20 or 30 changes to one profile to get very different sounds and suggested there was lots more that you could have done - can *all* those changes be saved alongside the original and given it’s own name? Thanks
@SirJo55
@SirJo55 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video which clarifies many aspects of using the Kemper. Really useful! I believe that the various "first impressions" on Neural DSP and the comparisons that are made between this and the Kemper or other machines are quite wrong. Often, then, they are made by those who, despite having bought a Kemper, for example, have never read a single page of its manual, nor have for simplicity seen the explanatory videos found on the Kemper website. From my direct experience, it is not at all true that a purchased profile cannot be completely modified ... The Kemper allows you to vary all those parts of the profile (bias, tube type, cabinet, definition, clarity, pick strength and so on and so forth) which in the end determine sounds that are very different from the original. Those who complain about the "cumbersome" of the Kemper have perhaps never fully used other machines (ie the first Axes of Fractal) and above all have not understood that in the case of Kemper we are talking about a "profiler" that is a machine that replicates the sound starting amp. Profiles of Michael Britt or Tone Junkie or others are often chosen because they have a higher profiling quality at the base, so the final product is qualitatively better. Despite this, M. Britt himself in the notes to his packs always adds that each profile can be modified to your liking and also provides several suggestions in this regard. In the end, almost 10 years after its release, Kemper is still unmatched for its possibilities of use: it is like carrying around a truck of amplifiers and effects, all often of great quality, enclosed in a "toaster". Perhaps a little dated (but still practical) graphics and displays, free effects updates, huge database of sounds ... at a more than adequate price. Thanks again to Jonathan for his intellectual honesty and his ability to face all comparisons as a professional.
@elgranelectron5387
@elgranelectron5387 3 жыл бұрын
The tool doesn´t make the musician, the musician makes the tool.
@markinthemix6055
@markinthemix6055 3 жыл бұрын
Well DONE well DONE video. Great reminder. I have never touched some of those settings.
@hermankarels4996
@hermankarels4996 3 жыл бұрын
Hey john. How are you, I've been following you for a while now on YT Very awesome stuff you do!! What are your thoughts About a audio interface in dis case for the kemper. Any recommendation? Which one do you Use btw? Cheers
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
I personally used to have a Lexicon Ionix 44 and now have a Steinberg UR RT 4
@BubbaHotepLiveBand
@BubbaHotepLiveBand 3 жыл бұрын
Never understood why some people just take for granted everything they read on the internet, and contribute to the propagation of mythical/mystical nonsense. Additionally, let’s not forget that Kemper is still a modeler.
@guitartoneSA
@guitartoneSA 2 жыл бұрын
When I got my Kemper in August 2011 there were 35 Profiles total available. So most important thing at that time was experimenting with different cabinets. By February 2012 I had 150 Cabinets including the Tills Cabinets saved on my Kemper. Why, how? When you play a great Profile always save the Cabinet. Like Britt's Dumble 1x12 or Thomas Dills 4x12 Greenbacks. Build up a collection of saved Cabinets. Now 10 years later and I still speak to Kemper owners who don't know how to change Cabinets or know you can. 🤔
@christophersoulos6100
@christophersoulos6100 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. All this makes sense to me, even as a new owner/long-term musician. Thanks for showing where it all is.
@Nig6tWalker
@Nig6tWalker 3 жыл бұрын
the sound is huge,what cabinet,speaker,monitors are you using?
@glasgowguitarist3636
@glasgowguitarist3636 3 жыл бұрын
Dam them Kemper’s sure do a lot of “things” 😆 Some lovely playing and tones as always sir! I think you covered most of the main points about how flexible the KPA really is. However, O was surprised that you put so much weight on Clarity but didn’t touch on Definition. Definition is one of the most powerful and underrated controls in the Kemper and is the forst go to control for many people. As for the Pre/Post EQ; its all just taste (and you seem to have really good taste anyway) but I would tend to suggest using it Pre for really dramatic changes like cutting a lot of bass flub or boosting a loot of mids or highs as these tend to alter the distortion character more than the actual “tone” (EQ). Wheres the EQ is very powerful so can be used much more subtly in the Post position. At the end of the day though if it sounds good, it is good 🤘
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
The definition is in a different place right? I know it's in there somewhere...but where? EDIT - balls! It's on the first page of the Amp features - Definition, Power Sagging, Pick and Compressor....Each pretty huge features....
@glasgowguitarist3636
@glasgowguitarist3636 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy it should be the very first control on the first page of the amp block. That page also contains the amp compression which is a really powerful control.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
@@glasgowguitarist3636 yep spotted!!! But definitely super useful controls too...I was looking for those ha!
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I bought one, was to make toast. It’s rubbish.
@user-te3qq1rb7u
@user-te3qq1rb7u 3 жыл бұрын
Read the friggen manual Jim. All toasting settings are on page 12.
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-te3qq1rb7u 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤪
@bob32069
@bob32069 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this satire!
@bartlettpsj
@bartlettpsj 3 жыл бұрын
Does great waffles
@mdeerocks6792
@mdeerocks6792 3 жыл бұрын
I just use mine as a decorative desk lamp. Completely unusable for guitar playing :)
@no3ody478
@no3ody478 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work here Johnathon, learned some new tricks! The reason everything gets compared to a Kemper is that it is still the benchmark, even after 10+ years.
@MatteMike2345
@MatteMike2345 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 I immediately thought of Frank Zappa. Nice!
@paulpearland
@paulpearland 3 жыл бұрын
What guitar and amp should be used to get the same sound?
@robrippen
@robrippen 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool info. For me it's a learning curve no doubt. With all the parameters for me it's like smelling cologne after so many it becomes difficult to distinguish. I guess it's trial & error. For the time being I play the profiles of cats who have alot sharper tone skills than myself. But this video is interesting, I know just a bit tweaking can improve overall sound and tightness to make a good profile sound great. This amps potential is much greater than my current knowledge. But there's endless information and resources to learn depending on how much time you invest. Thats all there if you want it. If you just want to play great profiles from people who have already invested alot of their time honing their skills, it's still well worth it...
@Walkerbjj
@Walkerbjj 3 жыл бұрын
great video...I used neural and a Kemper stage...I love both...I always tell people exactly what you said about kempers being extremely tweakable...for me, the neural stuff is easier to dial in (for me) but I think tonally they are equal...I don't think the neural stuff sounds better like so many of the new reviews say
@kcussrebutuemos4815
@kcussrebutuemos4815 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear. I’m running out of money trying to keep up with gear addiction. I finally stopped buying stuff. It took yrs. I’m not buying another modeler. Tweaking for hrs. and then go back anyway to my amps snd a pedal and play for hours.
@MatSkyland
@MatSkyland 3 жыл бұрын
well done ! great sound as always, today I will test it :)
@SamuelAging
@SamuelAging 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I’d call it a myth. I have never heard anyone say that you are100% “stuck” with a certain sound on a profile. But from my own experience with my Kemper over the last 7 years, the farther away you get from the original profile, the less convincing it sounds. I absolutely do tweak my profiles and sculpt them to my liking. But more than a few clicks away from default on many controls and it starts to sound a bit funny. I rarely use the Gain knob more than 2-3 numbers in either direction. After that it starts sounding artificial to my ear. But that said, profiles are still not completely static. I do have a Quad Cortex coming. I don’t expect it to be “better” than my Kemper as far as the sound goes. I do expect that I will prefer working on the unit itself as I am very attracted to the UI. If I don’t end up liking the sounds as much as my Kemper I will sell it.
@Nig6tWalker
@Nig6tWalker 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Jonathan,i just bought your Kemper profiles.
@capitanvonchickenpants8492
@capitanvonchickenpants8492 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's not a modeller but I've been amazed on how my boss katana stacks up against my Marshall TSL and JVM 100 heads I've always been impressed with the beautiful tones I hear coming out of kempers on KZbin I would buy one in a heartbeat but I'm not in the place financially
@schlangodoss6572
@schlangodoss6572 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! A few thoughts - you have a great Eric Johnson tonal vibe going on throughout this clip - sounds great! Also, agree that the flexibility on Kemper is pretty overwhelming and excellent - this thing will be around for a long time, and I have absolutely no need or plan to look elsewhere (and I am a hardcore tube guy). I think the biggest thing with Quad Cortex (for me) is the UI, and while the Kemper team has done a fantastic job providing regular firmware updates and a usable editor, This is the weakest area of the system. I don't think they will ever do this... but I believe if they opened up the Kemper API's to 3rd party developers who specialize in this sort of thing, that the UI (both onboard and via the editor) would improve by leaps and bounds. Just my 2 cents.
@fisherfilmworks
@fisherfilmworks 3 жыл бұрын
The quad Cortex looks cool and specs are nice. Haven’t played one. I have played the helix and the fractal which were also once at the top of the hype scale. They sound great and arguably like the real amps. However, nothing feels as good as the Kemper. No other modeler device is as inspiring. And yes, you’re correct. Tweakability is huge with the Kemper. It takes pedals like a tube amp does. I’ll check out the QC when I can but I don’t think it’s gonna have me selling my Kemper.
@foxmeisteruk
@foxmeisteruk 3 жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that the "issue" was not that you can't really tweak the profile, but rather that the amp controls on the Kemper don't necessaily react in the same way as the same controls on the real amp, especially in situations where those controls are interactive on the real amp. That doesn't mean that the Kemper will produce a "bad" tone, when the amp controls are dialled to extremes, just that it may no longer be particularly representative of the original amp.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
You (I) read some funny things online! But yes, one of the things I'm reading is that the parameters for controlling a capture are more useful/more tweakable than the Kemper, which just is almost certainly not the case. There's definitely some folks out there saying that you're stuck with whatever a profile sounds like and you can't really tweak it. Also that's definitely true like you say that the accurate thing to say is that the Amp controls are generic/modelled and so are not going to react the same as the real amp - but that's exactly true of the Quad too
@TheAudioDen
@TheAudioDen 3 жыл бұрын
2:44 The plural of trooth would be treeth. Just wanted to point that out because, obviously, you've got everything else right here.
@kcussrebutuemos4815
@kcussrebutuemos4815 3 жыл бұрын
There’s something up with Kemper and WiFi on their Instagram. They keep giving hints but no info. Is it for racks and toasters or just stage? Etc I’m just asking ty nit you. What is it and when will yet let us know. Because if I could use an iPhone or tablet to fool with it that would be great and helix should do the same. Just updating you on what I saw. 👀
@fandiwoworchannel7902
@fandiwoworchannel7902 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing, love my Kemper Stage,!!!
@gregoryarefev9349
@gregoryarefev9349 3 жыл бұрын
This is strange to compare the number of available tunings instead of the ability to reproduce the sound of a real amp. QC is meant for that, to get you the exact sound of your favorite amp without the amp rather than to enable you to fine-tune all sorts of virtual circuitry. This is done by means of a deep learning model unlike in all other modeling gear. QC isn't just another processor. It's the first to employ deep learning and it is revolutionary in this sense. Given input and output signals, neural nets can automatically memorize such transformations that are impossible to comprehend using other techniques. You will see in the near future Kemper/Line6 and others catching up.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
There's literally no evidence that has been provided to show that Neural are capable of greater accuracy than the competitors. In fact the Neural stuff struggles with a number of things including elements of clean signal blended in, sag etc.
@gregoryarefev9349
@gregoryarefev9349 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy You're most likely right about the lack of features (which is rather an unimportant detail imo). You're maybe right about accuracy (I don't own the QC to check that by myself). But the key difference is that the accuracy is no longer dependant on the algorithm. I can't even imagine how much scientific effort was put into "conventional" modelers (even starting from Zoom 505 ;) in order to virtually reproduce and generalize the nature of sound amplification/distortion and propagation through the air inside a cabinet. Those equations might be enormously complex but still, be just man-crafted approximations leaving tons of edge cases uncovered. All this is automated in a neural net. Just train long enough and let it converge and you won't be able to perceive the difference. I can bet Line6 will come up with "revolutionary new" piece of gear very soon (in a year or two). Which will be based on WaveNet (the model that's used in QC).
@orbithesun1
@orbithesun1 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is many of these myths associated with the Kemper Profiler where ascribed way back when the unit first came out. By people who never owned or played the unit. A lot of ignorance out there. Lol
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird init the myths persist despite years and years of updates!
@orbithesun1
@orbithesun1 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy like I said, ignorance! Christoph Kemper and his team are wizards.
@danc3746
@danc3746 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Its all about cash flow, its time to hype the Quad Cortex and bash the Kemper. There a great profiles and bad profiles, this unit gives you what you put into it. One thing I will say about profiling, when tweaking an original profile the Kemper will not react the same as the real amp does, it just doesn't work that way. Its always best to capture different tone stages of the amp and work with them that way.
@DimitrisMitrolios
@DimitrisMitrolios 3 жыл бұрын
The profile you can alter, but the latency will stay too high for 2021 device unfortunately
@lukather1
@lukather1 3 жыл бұрын
Latency - ? Detail ? I’m an helix and see and 10 yr Axefx user and Kemper ex owner ? What do you mean ?
@Serkan.Korkmaz
@Serkan.Korkmaz 3 жыл бұрын
finally someone has expressed and explained exactly what I mean, love u
@b.thames353
@b.thames353 3 жыл бұрын
I use the Kemper as my weekly church rig. If you like killer tone, the ability to save presets, and like playing with knobs on the fly or at specified time... then I recommend the Kemper. Been using it for about a year and a half now and still love it despite owning an HX Stomp as well. Love the vids John. You da man!
@LysanderLH
@LysanderLH 3 жыл бұрын
I can guarantee that if I owned anything like this, that I would not find,use,discover,remember how to find/use etc approximately 95% of anything it can do.
@cliverkay
@cliverkay 3 жыл бұрын
OK .. But not quite right !!! The Kemper profiles a sound and then adds its own gain and Equalisation to that !! But the amp when you turn up or down the gain or EQ it can affect the tone drastically different depending on the design of the amp which the Kemper cannot know !! That is why despite the advantages of modelling I still love my tube amps ...Maybe an amps should have many profiles taken from it at different settings of the amp and then fitted together , more of a dynamic profile than a static one..
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
Wait - that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's the same as the amp, I'm saying that there's loads of tweakability - contrary to the internet myth that once you have a profile there's nothing you can do with it?
@jimmcdougall9973
@jimmcdougall9973 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the later part of your comment. If you buy a profile pack from one of the top profile makers (Michael Britt, Tone Junkie etc., etc.), you get many snapshots/profiles of the same amp, at different settings. I take it you have never owned a Kemper, or given it a chance. John, Excuse me for posting other artists videos. But perhaps this video from another professional musician will enlighten kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3eaeKaYmdeKkM0
@phelipehulk
@phelipehulk 3 жыл бұрын
Bro. Kemper, and other modeling/profiling amps are not made to be a COPY of a real tube amp. They just do the same serivce, however they function in a different way. You're comparing oranges to apples and saying shit about oranges because it tastes different, however both are fruits and both will satiate your hunger. A modeling amp may never sound and react the same as a real amp, however they are still serviceable and have their own merits.
@koolohm6376
@koolohm6376 3 жыл бұрын
Here's my live tutorial "How-To" on how to reamp with Kemper in the S/PDIF digital domain kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqbKpYlodq11qrs
@Hectrucci2
@Hectrucci2 3 жыл бұрын
COMPLETELY AGREE!
@jazzzfer
@jazzzfer 3 жыл бұрын
FILL THAT CAVITY CORDY!
@cast390
@cast390 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Kemper would make Sag, Tube Shape, and Tube Bias much more pronounced. They do so little, why bother. Maybe something like zero to extreme. And you get to dial in what you want. I think these parameters in their current state are a waste of space on the unit.
@aristocaster
@aristocaster 3 жыл бұрын
They are like they are in real life in real tube amp, they don't do much, but it still is important.
@cast390
@cast390 3 жыл бұрын
@@aristocaster I believe you've missed my point. In the real world with a real amp, these parameters are of a set value. As players, we don't know what that is. Since the Kemper offers diversity, why not offer what I have previously stated?
@BSPotter
@BSPotter 3 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what does sound completely real and it isn't really debatable. Actual tube amps.
@andrebrito3816
@andrebrito3816 2 жыл бұрын
As More you tweak more you are away from the Original „amp“! The amp when profiled passed only s Snapshot of its tone. By adding gain/treble/Bass you are Running away from That specific amp you playing.. its not a myth! Its science 🙋‍♂️
@zavotic6184
@zavotic6184 3 жыл бұрын
stratocaster
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
Ha back to usual programming
@zavotic6184
@zavotic6184 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy yes
@user-te3qq1rb7u
@user-te3qq1rb7u 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, that’s technically not a “Stratocaster”. Although it shares a very similar shape, if you look at the headstock you can see it’s an 86 Jackson V complete with a Kahler trem.
@zavotic6184
@zavotic6184 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-te3qq1rb7u i knew there was something with that guitar
@stevefearon9337
@stevefearon9337 3 жыл бұрын
Truth ache.... legend!
@Cring0r
@Cring0r 3 жыл бұрын
I think all of these tone-gangs who double down for their team actually all start in the same way, well intentioned seeking out the perfect tone. Only Andy Timmons will be able to unite us all and prevent the future tone wars from destroying us all. Obviously.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy 3 жыл бұрын
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