The BIGGEST Story in Dancehall & Music That's Not Being Talked About... || The Fix Podcast

[@petrinegordon]

A long time now Jamaica has not done enough to protect the culture. Everyone bites off of our music, our dances, and the way we talk. Copyright and patent as much of the music and the dances as possible, people should have to pay to use our culture.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

True, every single one, both Dances, and Music, woudnt mind Language and food could be added.

[@Carol-mz5xk]

I agree👍 with you wholeheartedly , Jamaicans 🇯🇲 need to patent their dance moves, culture, from sound system culture and even the popular slangs and so forth and start making some real money in stead of allowing all the culture vultures from other countries to steal it from us ..

[@shamballa188]

so truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeee

[@denny414]

​@@Carol-mz5xkJamaicans made the mistake when jamaican producers forced Puerto Ricans to stop calling it reggae then the puertoricans changed it to reggaeton making it easier for them to create a new genre and say well its not reggae it's reggaeton 😂

[@DamianR36913]

Like how you all turn calypso music into reggae, it's KZbin look up Bob Marley on how calypso influences reggae

[@jasonscarlett8868]

This is what I've been saying for years! We're so quick to throw away the formula that put dancehall on the map🇯🇲the drum patterns and bass lines that 80s and 90s dancehall is the foundation while there's nothing wrong with a modern twist but don't forget about the formula we need to stop chasing down hip hop and trap and stick to what made us famous the international audience loves the original dancehall sound so why are we so quick to throw it away🤨🤨🤨👊🏾🇯🇲💙

[@CR-pw9il]

FACTS! Idiot dem, so much money to be made , but everybody wah sing bout chap chap & killing kmt

[@greglewis1084]

Dont leave out the early 2000s also

[@misterlexx2721]

It's like throwing away jerk chicken and rice n peas for Macaroni and Cheese. That's not authentic Jamaican for real! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@James-sz2hr]

Music change and evolve. HipHop in the 80s and 90s sounds nothing like hiphop today.

[@chungy4153]

Every genre has actually changed over time...which dominating genre is still the same today???..even RNB dead to raatid

[@glenna3172]

This is just the tip of the iceberg. In the early 90s I watched the UK Jungle drum n bass industry sample thousands, literally thousands of Reggae and dancehall songs, soundsystem sessions and make huge money. It's beyond laughable.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Exactly

[@Carol-mz5xk]

UK are also culture vultures and a part of the problem stealing from Jamaica 🇯🇲 culture and enriching themselves..

[@BIGkundalini]

agreed, wasn't that genre called ragga? drum n bass beats with reggae samples . very very up tempo 130bpm beats

[@Carol-mz5xk]

I've been speaking about this day and night about this injustice that's been done to 🇯🇲 Jamaican dance😢culture. They need to be sued a long ; long time ago . FOR REAL

[@musiqworlmedia88]

Reggatone was originally started in Panama 🇵🇦 by Jamaicans who migrated there for work. Later on is when all this took place. Look how we are so quick to put down other artists weh just ah try a ting but look how long reggaetone deh bout and nobody never frowns pon dem kmt

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

No one isnt Frowning, and no one is saying that they cant use our culture, what we are talking about is getting dinero aka money for our creation. Every one is making money from our culture except us, get it?

[@musiqworlmedia88]

@@Xprime-iu8dr many musical genres of today were birthed out of an older musical genre. You have souls music and jazz that birth R&B music,Rock&Roll,Funk,Pop, all came from previous genres and just evolved later. To try and take claim to something so universal such as music is downright selfish and arrogant. It’s seems this is more about greed than principle.

[@Carol-mz5xk]

They stole our entire culture and music and they need to pay dearly for what they did ..

[@Carol-mz5xk]

When you go to college and plagiarize people's work you will be kicked out..😮😅i😮Once you don't credit people for their work .. With that said that reggaeton genre 😂is at fault for what they did ..They basically stole Jamaica's 🇯🇲 culture and music this is so unjust ..I'm sure the courts will see it for what it is ..

[@musiqworlmedia88]

@@Carol-mz5xk lmaoo this has to be a joke

[@Lhoyte1]

Also remember Panama is a place that is full of jamacains that stayed after working on the Panama Canal

[@waynes9372]

The industry starts when we have our own awarding body. We set our own criterias, standards and etc. when we look to outside bodies for acknowledgment and the like, the own and control our industry or we begging for a seat at their table.

[@janation7088]

Dem bow is a genre to bbc🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇯🇲

[@beautydonja]

I keep saying this enuh. Our music can bring in alot of oppurtunity and funds. If artise producers etc come together take the personal rifts out of it and think business wise everyone can get paid etc.

[@randomyute1601]

I saw this and was kinda following it but I knew much wouldn’t come of the lawsuit simply based on the what they said in their defense “the riddim is the building block for the the entire genre and that copyrightable elements such melody and lyrics are not included in the case”. I think essentially that’s where the case will fall through on.

[@JayfkProductions876]

Yeah no melodics involved & you can't Copyright, Trademark or Patent a "GENERIC' Drum Beat it'll most likely lose

[@kenesbro3424]

If anybody should sue it should be Shabba Ranks! Shabba should be rich of Reggaeton music🇯🇲🔥🇯🇲

[@Lhoyte1]

He did not produce the riddim he voiced on it. Respect the producers that created the riddim

[@misterlexx2721]

Bobby Digital but he died back in 2020.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

@@Lhoyte1 They created another sub genre from Shabba song called dem Bow and even use his words, etc

[@admiralhipowa7158]

Shabba didn’t create the riddim though. I would like to know what Cutty Ranks take is on this lawsuit as he has voiced on reggaeton riddims.

[@buddhanorthcoast]

This is a clear case of "badmine" if you really look into it, we threw away a whole formula that gave us multiple hits and the Latin people decided to use said formula that we swept under the rug, now that they're doing better than us we care about the formula again

[@ashleighwilliams9765]

What you mean bout badmind “like you produce a riddim and ppl a use it without your permission” Wid music now a days you can’t use or sample anything without getting a lawsuit

[@kingsworld2220]

How is it badmind for the person that created something asking to be compensated for their work? People do this every single day, but it's badmind for some in Dancehall to do it?

[@FC-xc3zy]

Siddung likkle eediat bwoy. Dem fi gi dancehall credit

[@azitsallgood2514]

💯

[@ashleighwilliams9765]

@@kingsworld2220 exactly

[@kingsworld2220]

The right lawyers can win this case. If u do your research u will find that these lawsuits are common. The only difference is the scales of this lawsuit which involves an entire genre. It stil doesn't chance the fact that each individual can be sued for the sampling of the rhythm/Riddim.

[@DonOfDons718]

A smart lawyer wouldn’t even take this,ah foolishness unuh deh pon my people

[@Carol-mz5xk]

What took them so long to sue reggaeton for straight plagiarism on our dancehall music and culture..For years I've been saying this wake up my Jamaican people..

[@MDhunni08]

And all these people sampling old dancehall songs need to credit/ pay them as well. Peloton has a commercial out with a mix that has Cutty Ranks in it. I hope he’s getting paid for it.

[@ashleighwilliams9765]

Exactly simple as that

[@mushymoshy]

Many 1990’s dancehall rhythms are sampled in reggaeton hits

[@Phil-fw2ib]

Many lol thousands

[@mdss_ean9804]

I knew about it a long time. But some artists were hard to find. its however too late to sue the whole genre over that beat... I believe it will creat musical enmity. I believe the should select the few songs that mimic the actual beat instead of a simple base composition. At least attempt a settling first.

[@juzcaaz3566]

I had known this for a long while, actually, it was once colloquially called ‘dem bow.’ This is called intellectual theft. The only issue I’m having with this is that it took so long.

[@Carol-mz5xk]

I have been talking 👄 about this for years reggaeton is straight plagiarism and they should have been suing that fake reggaeton long long time ago trying to rip off dance hall reggae music. Why the hell took so long to sue the pants 👖 off of these people because it's totally legitimate lawsuit . It's about time Jamaican people wake up and sue them for real 👎 no joke..

[@kinghiggins5021]

I agree with Ari reggae and dancehall is our greatest export

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Even Ska too

[@feebaby]

Reggae DID NOT influence Hip Hop but I hope they get every single penny from Reggaeton

[@bjonesred]

Exactly! Reggae had ZERO influence on Hip Hop.

[@trevormcdonald385]

Musically no but many early pioneers were Caribbean descent 😊

[@galaxykode9243]

It’s a million law suits am Jamaican but I speak Spanish too and all of the Jamaican songs are make over in reggaeton they do it for here it you understand Spanish it like the same words

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Same, the exact same songs

[@ratsafari4689]

“Chu Pum Pum “ is “Little Lenny “ Tune tpC !!!!!!!

[@GS-bx8xw]

Yes but was redo it by permission for VP RECORDS do you know Tony Kelly redid this riddim? Tony Kelly was the music engineer. The Jamaican producer was Karl Miller, who worked with VP RECORDS. here the proof The original version of Tu Pum tu Pum (Registered as Pu Tum Tum) by El General, is by Little Lenny the song Punnany Tegereg, both songs were recorded on the same CD by the Columbia Records label and as a single it was made by VP RECORD 1990 👇🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWqoiIJmnbVnoNkm50s Here the creator of the riddim Tony Kelly clarifying in the PODCAST ONSTAGE SHOW kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWqoiIJmnbVnoNkm07s Panama and Jamaica have been working together for a long, long time. One love one blood 🇵🇦🇯🇲

[@Cash82Mx]

​​​@@GS-bx8xwLittle Lenny made it clear that El General stole his song. For its part, El General's record company has said that they had to mediate to reach an agreement and thus both parties benefited.

[@addisoncuevas3800]

It is about time, also the producer of Cutty Ranks "Who seh me dun" Courtney Cole should hop in as well as that riddim is heavily used in Reggaeton

[@JayfkProductions876]

Jamaica doesn't have, has never had a MUSIC INDUSTRY, just hustlers who dont follow regulations, protocols, organizational structurer Just hustling and Segregation. we have glimpse of a MUSIC INDUSTRY just Glimpses

[@jamaicanbkslimaz]

Ok…..

[@robkennedy5906]

Good work The Fix team.

[@adversarytfc9864]

Dem Bow is the actual name of the sub genre of reggeaton. Steeli have a good case.

[@NinaKarle]

I had to hear about this on a forin podcast now i have to go searching for it...but yes...time for this...we all knew this from lang time

[@alben503]

But if they just registered the US copyright in 2020, that still means that anything going forward that infringe the sound would apply. Being that the core bases of reggaeton derives from the fish market rhythm from old reggaeton to new reggaeton...then they definitely could control the genre going forward.

[@Zameth29]

Panamá ft Jamaica Hermandad 🇯🇲🔥🇵🇦👍🏾

[@user-jz9jw3xf3q]

We all knew this since El General" pum pum nani nani..." There is a distinction between inspiration ( afro beat) and a carbon copy ( reggaeton). The legal action is overdue; I just hope more than the original producers are compensated in the end..

[@McSliksOnline]

I can answer this situation. To fight this case it will be a very difficult case to battle. Reason being is because the Reggaeton scene is not just a Genre, its a Global Coperation, a Empire on a large scale. What is done is done. There won't be a lawsuit aproved for this due to the level of the two parties where 1 party is a Giant party. Only thing that can be done to gain true recognition is give the originals 'Steely & Clevie' their own Star Plaque in a Latin Museum as a homage & respect to them. Because I agree, these two Should receive the full Credit & be known as the Fathers, the Founders of Reggaeton genre. REGGAE-TON. The truth of the nations & culture of where the genre was born is its Genre Name.

[@trevormcdonald385]

No we want royalties

[@byrondwyer207]

Credit and inspiration are not the same as an unauthorized sample. The lawsuit as survived appeals and the courts have found clear similarly

[@mealone5343]

Lovely Ari. Big up The Fix.

[@Troybling]

And there’s a genre in DR called dembow

[@livingstonadamson8957]

Jamaica is just the musical factory of the world. Jamaica just create and moved on. Not only Reggeaton taking elements of Dancehall also Afro-beat. Jamaica just set trends. Jamaican authorities should do like other countries like USA, England and other European countries make sure they owned a percentage of and intellectual property create in their countries.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Africans grew up on Dancehall and Reggae and nothing is wrong with them using elements of it, whats wrong is that some is trying to deny this, like they even using our language and beat but claiming its not. Even giving Hip hop and pop credit instead of Dancehall and Reggae which is disrespectful.

[@Maleekthegreat2023]

@@Xprime-iu8drall Africans did not grow up on dancehall and Raggae stop promoting lies

[@Maleekthegreat2023]

Bro stop crying Jamaicans even took elements from blues to make Raggae

[@Maleekthegreat2023]

And if you didn’t want others to listen to your music maybe you shouldn’t have commercialized it to the rest of the world 🤡 so stop complaining

[@REALEYEZ1718]

Dj cool herc that founded rap also is Jamaican

[@kinghiggins5021]

Not being paid for it really that part is surprising

[@redmans9683]

Punnany tegereg by little lenny was covered by el general and call tu pum pum 8:10

[@BMUSIK101]

El general I respect …..he’s a real one. These new reggaeton artist doesn’t even give him credit for shit. Reggaeton is white washed…..look at the color of all the front runners.

[@Carol-mz5xk]

This was one of the biggest injustice in the history of music. For these people to acknowledge what they allegedly stole steelie 😢and cleevie , dancehall music, dembow riddimms ..That😢all our music .They all need to pay dearly that😢total direct plagiarized our culture. That reggaeton is and will always be a fraud .. They should never be recognized as a genree 😢😂that's all Jamaican dancehall original music translated into Spanish it's a travesty, and they need to pay dancehall creators dearly for stealing their work ...

[@BEARSAWSE]

Love javi baaaaaaad 😂❤

[@Hunt4Yoshi]

The real case was about Nando Booms cover of Dembow (and a second song Pension) from Panama. It used the same Drum samples that all Reggaeton does, the Pounder Riddim to the song of the same name by Bobo General and Sleepy Wonder is the backbone of the genre. Nando Boom's case got thrown out, this one should be too

[@SenzaMotiva]

👌🏾Legit

[@muma4421]

Just visited the DR and asked "how many types of music you have?" Answer: Bachata, Merengue Raggaeton and "Dembow." I was asked if I know Dembow? I said yes that started from the Jamaican Dancehall Artist Shabba with his song "Dem Bow." The person didn't have a clue who I was talking about. So sad that dancehall reggae is so big it created multiple genres but Dancehall itself is struggling as a genre. Unlike Dancehall music that lost its foundation, Reggaeton's foundation is the same Dembow. Dancehall as a genre, needs to revisit its foundation.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

They should but its all because us Jamaicans, the younger generation dont know their cultural history

[@muma4421]

@@Xprime-iu8dr they also don't care to learn their culture either. The "fully dunce" mentality has taken over and ruined everything. From music, culture to every aspect of life.

[@Carol-mz5xk]

Yes, i agree that Dancehall musicians need to revisit their roots/ foundation because that format was very successful for them ..Nevertheless, they need to be compensated for their creativity from reggaeton ..

[@jakesnake8372]

Im dominican - Dominican Dembow started in 2008 and is much different than "Reggaeton" They call it Dembow becuase its repetition

[@dwainbeckford1]

This lawsuit is long overdue!

[@Kurtiskase00]

Daddy Yankee had the nerve to say in an interview years back saying reggaeton is original music to Hispanics. Finally someone took action on the these carbon copies

[@DJTEDDY507]

Panama was the birthplace of spanish dancehall. From dancehall it mutated into what reggaeton is today. It all started with the versions of the dembow, and pounder riddim.

[@JuanPablo-wc6du]

Ok I'm a producer and to my knowledge, I was always under the impression that u can't be sued for drum samples/patterns. Idk correct me if I'm wrong.

[@damionwillis3072]

Vybz kartel did tell them dancehall caah stall chubble deh deh 😂😂😂

[@jamaicaworldwide]

Trap Dancehall is going to be very interesting

[@Lhoyte1]

So question, should the USA sue all Trap dancehall artists for using their trap sound?

[@areplica-]

The broader issue is that black intellectual property is being stolen from black artists to other cultures their communities are profiting off of black peoples original talent if anything black trap artists and black Jamaican artists need to be in solidarity against other communities especially the Latin Caribbean - Afro Latin Caribbean or not.

[@jamaicanbkslimaz]

The drum patterns are the same?

[@greglewis1084]

I agree dancehall not even dancehall anymore

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

If they used a producer rhythm, of course, clear them out, but they arent, they are creating imitation of the flow.

[@trevormcdonald385]

I would argue that’s different

[@dejok123]

they are suing for using the drum pattern originally created by steelie which is the sound of the genre rather than suing the songs that have actually sampled their composition.

[@ruthless0999]

If it’s common how come a only reggae have the beat/drum elements?

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Not only, but in s specific pattern. If you listen to Calypso, Jamaican Folklore, rocksteady, or Mento you can find different pattern of riddim with drum

[@Lando-kx6so]

El General also has Grandparents & or great grandparents from Jamaica

[@Lhoyte1]

Panama is full of jamaicans

[@guidanceint]

Easy answer to their question of reggeaton vs dancehall. Latin America represents a whole continent of support for their music vs just Jamaica and small islands of the Caribbean. So when their song buss out, it reach everywhere from Puerto Rico round to Mexico and down to Chile. That is a billion supporters right there. But yeah as they said if you really think about it, Dembow is just one song out of dancehall and they keep it sounded like the original and look how far the one Riddim can go. Imagine if Jamaica just stayed true to their reggae music and dancehall music if the 90s. Imagine. No. New artist and producers want to sound like Americans instead. Heediat dem.

[@doorintaxes5714]

So happy to see these conversations been saying all week time to monetize the industry properly; Afrobeats doing it now I think also a Haitian genre span from us too so a good lawyer need to push this establish precedence and lets monetize this whole thing the government get involved collect a portion of the residuals for a fund for performing arts so our future entertains are trained properly musically, know the business of music and their intellectual property rights.

[@Monroesworld]

They need to just pay up, follow the rules and continue to make music

[@etclarke7884]

"Genna" tpc 🤣

[@jayrome8764]

Many Latinx literally call Reggaeton "dem bow"....dem fi pay up!

[@funnlaff1888]

Can de fix published de case #?

[@zionnegus8760]

El General the godfather of Reggaeton sample the Shabba song and the genre took off.

[@Prisoner-jf8vi]

Music evolves

[@sheldonstewart7753]

The genre was called DemBow when it created in Panama,it reach over on the Puerto Rico side and because they are control by America,the came up with their own name and called it REGGAETON….DEM BOW ….SHABBA RANKS

[@musiqworlmedia88]

Ahhh somebody other dan mi weh kno di history

[@Carol-mz5xk]

​@musiqworlmedia88 ththat's bull crap they stole Jamaican dancehall entire genre they need to pay dearly for plagiarizing our culture and creativity..They took something that was created by us and its not right. I hope the courts will see this class action lawsuit for what it 😂is..I don't give them any credit for plagiarizing our music or culture ..They are the most non creativity bunch outright and they need to pay dearly . For sure the government needs to intervene .. 😂

[@Kurtiskase00]

Government should have nothing to do with music, music is for the people And independent of the government..... that's what's wrong with Jamaicans too much dependency on government...... no other country has no say in music so why should Jamaican government have any say, one of the worst government at that.

[@BoomWahDis]

They even name the genre Dembow,which is more popular in DR.They didnt try to steal it with no credit,except for these young fools now who dont know anything about music.

[@JavonCarty]

Panamá call it different. It's plena and it's dancehall in Spanish

[@robertoglencoco7861]

Plena is actually slang term Panama uses for music they like. Actual Plena music is a historical folkloric Puerto Rican genre recognized by musicologists around the world.

[@Jay-gf2ut]

Oyyy uno mine uno mek them send elephant man guh prison fi life 🤣

[@ivetteclarke6979]

I'm glad they are suing these Puerto Rican reggaeton artist because they want to claim that they are the first country to start Reggaeton knowing that Reggaeton starts in the Republic of Panama.and How do I know that because I'm from Panama and I have family and family of friends who started reggaeton since 1980 and before they called it reggaeton it was called Spanish reggae #PanamaPleaseStandUp🇵🇦. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@robertoglencoco7861]

Sech and several other panamanian artists are listed in the lawsuit as culprits 🤣🤣🤣. Y'all plagiarized and Puerto Ricans paraphrased. Paraphrasing is legal . You big mad 🤣🤣🤣

[@Neekzag]

And it has started, this case is a huge one

[@DaDirtyTroll]

This ruins music. So you’re trying to kill a whole genre because they got inspired by some drum patterns? If that’s the case trap dancehall can get sued. Drill music can get sued. No genre would be safe

[@btcmewzik9613]

Lil dancehall them call we but it birth two of the biggest richest genres hip hop aka rap and reggaeton we as Jamaicans should be proud asf

[@BEARSAWSE]

And paid too 🤲🏿

[@btcmewzik9613]

Not to mention the subs like drill trap and whatever the English guys call their stuff

[@NativeNomad10]

Dubstep genre as well, Elements of Afrobeats, UK grime, etc.

[@azitsallgood2514]

FBA started hip hop !

[@CookiesandBones22]

Hip hop doesn't come from dancehall tho

[@Kingpin745]

Where can I find that video

[@CraigLP2]

I wonder how they feel about ozona ft takisha rich girl sapling

[@Bombaz2k10]

This Is a #Trillion Dollar lawsuit I'm telling you. Can you imagine when dat money drop Inna di economy...damn forget it! Forgot about bolt.

[@knowyuhgrow420]

They also use a lot of tiger music also

[@MasterMCTV]

this has been going on since 90s around there

[@GS-bx8xw]

Just to clarify , El General is descendants jamaican, he's half Jamaican and Panama have a huge history that came from the Panama Canal construction Panama started to work with the jamaican Producer as Phillips Smart, Denis the Menace Halliburton, Steely and Clevie, Bobby Digital, Antony "Tony" Kelly and many more Do you know who is Fil Callender? Is a Panamanian who was was pioneer of Reggae in Jamaica that started in Cosxon Music, his group was The In Crowd that Cleveland "Clevie" Constantine Browne was part of them in 1979 and when Clevie started as producer in the early 80's to expand the Dancehall to the Hispanic market gave the permission to EL GENERAL Here Clevie clarifying 👇🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWqoiIJmnbVnoNkm44s

[@Cash82Mx]

You're wrong. Cleavie did not grant El General any permission to take his music. What Cleavie says is that El General started recording songs with the instrumentals on the B-side of the records.

[@jackman435]

The Black Panamanian DJ/Producer El General was responsible for being the first to sample the beat pattern from Steely & Clevie's Fish Market track over 20 years ago and after that, the rapper Nore hijacked the Fish Market beat pattern from El General with the song Gasolina and then after that all of the light-skinned Mistizo Hispanics hijacked the beat pattern from Nore and taken it as their own! It is long overdue that the families of both producers get full compensation for the outright theft of their music creation. and an artist can be sued for copyright infringement of a beat pattern. a prime example is the many rappers that were sued in the 1990s by the original creators of beat patterns that were sampled without record clearance from the originator! All of the Reggaeton tracks that have been produced today are nothing more than samples of the original Fish Market beat pattern that was originally created by Steely & Clevie. the most recent case where a family sued a producer for copyright infringement was Marvin Gaye's family who sued and won their case against the singer Robbin Thicke & producer Pharell for his song Blurred Lines where Pharell unforgivably hijacked the beat pattern of Marvin Gaye's 1977 hit Got To Give It Up. the family of Gaye was awarded $5 million for Pharell's thievery.

[@biskitbandit9994]

Dem soon sue some of them new dancehall artists that they using the rap Riddim dem wait

[@lexxxusda1907]

Reggaeton Means Reggae tune in english

[@FC-xc3zy]

Good fi reggaeton fans. Dem always a gwaan like reggaeton nuh come from reggae. Now dem nuh have nuh arguments. Dem bow..

[@SayWhat336]

Another Genre that no one talks about is "Hawaiian Reggae"

[@jevonbrown1778]

IN ADDITION to Reggaeton the Latino Caribbean Islands who also invented another spin off genre named "dembow"...PLEASE report on that as well.

[@knowyuhgrow420]

Yes they have a lot of tiger sounds in there music if you listen good you will hear even his words dem use

[@JayfkProductions876]

They just copyright it not even 5yrs 👀 Cho Bomboclaat talk about blind leading the blind & dumb leading the dumb 🤦‍♂️

[@kennyh6506]

This ago be a hard task for the lawyers, unless dem can find some loop hole to use.

[@JayfkProductions876]

​​@@kennyh6506 was gonna say proving who initially sampled Dembow was the only way but honestly this case don't have any legs to stand on, can't copyright A Drum Groove

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

@@JayfkProductions876 You can copyright a rhythm and the first sample is literally the song done over in Spanish.

[@LSmoney215]

Jamaica should be ashamed to sue reggaeton. Afro beats dont sue dancehall but if they didn't get paid then they should get paid. Dancehall regaeton created hip hop afrobeat and regaetona come from JA

[@dmanibyles5858]

Dancehall ain’t from afrobeats

[@trevormcdonald385]

Afrobeats didn’t even exist when dancehall did fool

[@Lando-kx6so]

We should deal with our music genres like how the Koreans deal with K-pop

[@davieflores8700]

Old news that happened in December

[@tehuti2994]

Kumina riddim, Shabba dem bow and bed wuk👽🔥👍

[@cultureman1857]

Hey, Ari talk inuh 😂

[@kinghiggins5021]

Remember Miley Cyrus did the same thing to one of our Jamaican artist and he got a settlement

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Yep, a billion Jamaican dollars too

[@renshoota]

They literally call them the dembow drums.

[@dereck4187]

Keep saying musical identity is important especially culturally which make it easy to plant a country to a sound.

[@EYEAUM1985]

firstly mi a yuh fans mi baby, you juicy and nice... a long time mi a seh reggaeton and afrobeat turn around dancehall and patent it. dats why it name reggaeton or reggae tone...the whole genre is dancehall in spanish

[@danieleinad11]

Afrobeat ?? Continue joking 😂😂😂

[@killydon908]

​​​@@danieleinad11 course afro beat create from dancehall unless yuh deaf b4 it get so big stone bwoy used to do afro beat and used potios that's Jamaican dialect and said he's a dancehall artiste And dancehall is The real deal he's Said bcz him know when Afro beat get big him switch African people love Jamaican culture Dem praise Jamaican artiste like Dem a god that says it All and is a Jamaican creat hip hop if I never know

[@killa1816]

​@@killydon908not dancehall but calypso it's on Google

[@danieleinad11]

@@killydon908 if it makes you sleep at night, be my guest

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

@@danieleinad11 No you should continue be blind. Im sure you even hear our language in them, even wizkid said this before, and Burna boy started off as a Dancehall artist. What do you think about Burna boy bank on it song? lol you stay stupid

[@DonOfDons718]

The basis of hip hop was indeed created by DJ kool herc who was Jamaican born, but he only created beats using the base line and chorus of the same song. It wasn’t until DJ Grandmaster flash got hold of the formula that actually rhymes were placed over the beats instead of just dancing to the rhythm. So yea a Jamaican had a part in creating hip hop but he did not create the whole genre.

[@James-sz2hr]

I guess you didn't know Jamaicans created all genres worldwide. LOL

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

Dj kool hercs mixed what was already in Jamaica which is toasting and Dubbing with RnB influences. Toasting which is what you called rhyming was created by count Machuki and the ryhthm called dub was created by King Tubby. All Grandmaster flash did was to add/perfect what DJ kool hercs/Jamaicans did.

[@Xprime-iu8dr]

@@James-sz2hr The same can be said about AA influencing all, give credit where credit is due. Jamaicans didnt create all genre but we def gonna take credit for what was influenced by us which is a lot.

[@James-sz2hr]

@@Xprime-iu8dr and Ja wasn't influenced by no one?

[@DonOfDons718]

@@Xprime-iu8dr don’t matter if you AA or from JA at the end of the day everything comes from us. #MelanatedOnes

[@dearirie]

Sue everything win loose or draw

[@jaymoore5407]

Den nuh heights of badmind dis. Not because we naah do ntn wid Di music nuh badmind the reggeaton artist dem fi dem millions cause dem music structure. Then again.... business is business

[@Lando-kx6so]

Unu need fi go listen to Dembow by Nando Boom, it's seen as the 1st ever Reggaeton song & was pretty much Shabba Ranks Dembow in Spanish. Reggaeton stems from Reggae en Español which was really just Reggae & Dancehall songs done over in Spanish & some original songs. Reggae en Español was started by black Caribbean descendant people in Panama many of which had grandparents or great grandparents from Jamaica & Barbados who worked on the Panama Canal & worked in the Canal Zone. Puertoricans hijacked it, called it Reggaeton & ran with it then years later Dominicans made a sub genre of it literally called "Dembow".

[@NativeNomad10]

I heard Puerto Ricans saying this

[@crystalb9108]

Actually u need to listen to Ellos Benia by Nando boom. That is what reggaeton was built on

[@da_jamaican]

This lawsuit is gonna be tough because of how intricate music is on a whole and I agree with Ari for once we need to to add financial value to our culture government don't see how important our culture is

[@copeyano718]

You nuts if you think any judge will take such a joke lawsuit

[@da_jamaican]

@@copeyano718 reading is fundamental, and judges don't take up cases, Lawyers do and Lawyers take any case no matter how frivolous.. judge's are facilitators.. hope u realize how dunce your comment is now

[@angelluv10]

Facts…agree with what you all said

[@kinghiggins5021]

The artist needs to have a diplomatic passport

[@GARROMAFIA]

This was long overdue.

[@xanderkush674]

Everybody thief from somewhere.