The Bizarre Downfall of Greekgodx

[@Jabroney]

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[@JonnyBoyOfficial]

That’s actually a fat whip and nae nae

[@masonsobel366]

I don’t see the join button

[@masonsobel366]

@@YourCommonPlease damn bro you’re a father and still lying online like a child? Have some respect for yourself man

[@masonsobel366]

@@YourCommonPleaseand you got 4 likes and 2 comments on it. And a lot of your videos do have less than 100 views

[@fannypack7705]

I think if everyone just keep talking to him normally and sort of keep a contract with him he will eventually come to his senses.

[@jareddavulture58]

Greek crying when he finally got to hang with Tyler in person was so pure.

[@zimmerman1031]

Gay as shit.

[@Finicky9]

It was super wholesome

[@jaffa3717]

Bruh, when Minx is the voice of reason, you know things are bad

[@CHADCONTEXT]

That was actually sad when Minx said "You're better than this."

[@amberhernandez]

Minx destroying people who bullied TommyInnit off the internet felt like watching your friend's mother go off

[@janaparks929]

im sure she knows something is seriously wrong just like everyone else knows. he needs help

[@UNSKA]

minx spitting facts

[@phantompersona5704]

Deadass tho

[@bogdweller27]

It sucks because I remember shortly after he got fit and lost a lot of weight, he was super happy and humble. Truly a sad situation.

[@AlphaFlight]

Wen people loose weight they turn into horrible people

[@nashbutler]

Humble I think you are miss remembering he literally instantly had it go to his head like within 2 weeks of him being mostly fit like he went from treadmill stream where he was running and dropped his phone to having lost weight and all his friends and fans within 6 months it was crazy

[@TheAngryAustrian]

@@nashbutler Good for him for building his ego. He went from a terminally online shut-in who sniped streamers to someone confident and happy in his body who decided he doesn't need streaming to be happy

[@nashbutler]

@@TheAngryAustrian yeah but his pride lost him a million or more a year job id call that a loss

[@TheAngryAustrian]

@@nashbutler when greek streamed a call with ice poseidon a couple months ago, ice told him the same thing and greek replied that he is happy and has enough money and doesn't want to be a full time streamer

[@middle_pickup]

Poor guy lost the weight, but not the insecurities he suffered from. Sadge.

[@earthphoenix7068]

Where do you think those insecurities came from?

[@teapeaa]

@@earthphoenix7068 mental illness, id say. He's had it for a while, and losing a lot of weight isn't really a mental cure.

[@tramaldo187]

@@earthphoenix7068 from the weight obviously, and the lifestyle he was forced to when he was fat, i went down the exact same route as greek. I look good now, but it took me years to realize i still have the same mindset and i’m still as toxic, but now i embraced it and cut off all the good people around me.

[@SB-nh7uv]

you mean he is still ugly? Yeah, being an incel is brutal

[@holymacarenafin2319]

​@@tramaldo187 yeah im still The same fat kid in new body with muscles.

[@kinginthenorth88251]

Greek's problem is he went from depressed to angry. He lost the weight and women still dont like him because he has 0 understanding of how to be decent and has showed many ugly colors. Also shooting his shot in all the wrong directions and wanting women he will never have. He's mad that his weight loss didnt give him a lady friend cuz he thinks that'll make him happy. Greek is not happy.

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

Yeah he was like Chris chan cringe when talking to chicks

[@Slayer8957]

Greek was getting girls though when he was a weightlifting/watching his weight. It was when he went antivaxx that he got cut off from the streamer circles because they wouldnt invite him to parties without the jabs, and he spiraled down after that. Forced to move out of soda's house and getting ostracized by all the Austin streamers is what broke Greek. Greek was getting clout chasing twitch bunnies when he was just a leech king off tyler1. Saying he wasnt getting girls when he went full chad makes no sense.

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

@@Slayer8957 well damn I bet he must be smug after a whole bunch of stuff them antivax folk said turned out to be true. Never forget the horrific images of the dogs used in the labs

[@veiserexab1428]

Also the Tate thing influenced him very heavily

[@Slayer8957]

@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 I think it has more to do with the fact that streamers Greek thought were his actual friends are the ones that canceled him. Greek was already cut off from everybody in Austin long before his rants. Poke also got cut off just because he refused to stop hanging out with Greek. Mizkif even brags about how he "replaced" Greek on twitch as the funny fat guy.

[@ManOfParody]

There's a huge psychological problem that comes with massive weight loss like that, and I guarantee is what happened to Greek. All your insecurities become more highlighted, because now you realize people judge you on your character first and no longer your appearance. Everybody treats you differently after weight loss, and it's very hard to come to terms with it. It makes you an extremely jaded person if you don't handle it well. And most of all: It's downright infuriating to constantly be told that you're a different person now. You're the same person you were before, you're just healthy. But everybody swears you're different, and it effectively gaslights you. Losing that much weight causes massive psychological problems if you don't deal with it well.

[@ArchWizardCj]

yeah. alot of the people in the comments are misgauging this and its annoying. The hatred he feels is compounded because he never solved his insecurities and feels outward disdain for the difference in treatment from people all because he's lost weight. It causes alot of built up animosity from unresolved emotional duress from likely years of poor treatment

[@13days13]

yeah, you’re right. it’s funny how this is the most truthful comment I’ve seen about the situation yet it only has 30 likes.

[@Dr.Trustmeonthisone]

lmfao

[@ManOfParody]

@@13days13 to be fair, I just posted this and the video has been out for over a month.

[@olfan92]

i lost about 65kg in around half a year. huge weight loss and i havnt been a douchebag to anyone and people have been really nice to me about my weight loss. it has nothing to do with weight loss, this is the real him.

[@L1m1nalC0res]

This is one of the more sad downfalls imo. Greek went from a lovable guy to a douchebag turning on his friends so quickly :(

[@W8r01]

yeah greed

[@Horraura]

parasocial

[@Skoshtwo]

My dude, streamers aren't "friends" with each other. They are work associates. They do collaborations. They don't give a flying fuck about each other one bit and would stick a knife in each other's backs for clout any time. You can make a case that some of them live together and have been for decades but these cases are extremely rare.

[@aussiegodx8629]

How, they turned on him after he didnt want to take the vaccine which is his choice lmao. then they outcasted him so no shit hes gonna attack them AFTER they attack him

[@Skoshtwo]

@@kongxu4582 Yeah I make millions clowning in front of thousands of parasocial lonely people and now I am projecting. You are completely delusional.

[@joseradio9202]

Dude became what James Corden would be if he was a twitch streamer, just an annoying cunning little guy

[@rigobertorosenbaum9838]

Lmaoooo this is too true man

[@Joynsie]

Such a good comparison 👍🏻

[@Robstrap]

I met him in real life in 2018 and he was really nice. He actually paid for my taxi home after my phone ran out of battery. Idk whats happened to him. Although tbh I bet being friends with a bunch of streamers is awful lol. I've never met a streamer who wouldn't drown their own mum for some clout.

[@Vebol785]

Fake he ate you and he’s typing this from your account

[@Xtremedave2]

@@Vebol785what the heck 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ppstorm_]

Why lie to strangers on the internet? Is it an attention thing ?

[@dex3625]

@@ppstorm_ are you like new to the internet?

[@ppstorm_]

@@dex3625 why? because i dont instantly believe everything i see in the youtube comment section?

[@finnish_hunter]

Greek meeting Tyler is one of the most wholesome streamer moments I've ever seen...

[@Quickscript]

those were the days :(

[@finnish_hunter]

@@Quickscript Sad that he lost his mind... It's good that Tyler is in his prime atm.

[@leslynch5632]

Why is that wholesome 😂 wholesome is a family enjoying a holiday together, not two huge douche bags playing h1z1

[@darppy6985]

@@finnish_hunter His prime will be when he finally decides to do something about his league addiction

[@fuckyoutube75889]

@@Nope-en9bo yes god yes

[@pulledporkgang8792]

Bro Greek falling down an Andrew Tate rabbit hole and then ranting on twitch about woman that got him banned as to be the funniest thing I’ve heard all day

[@runescapeescape4102]

Lmao bro unironically took the tatepill

[@anderson-gb8rp]

He didnt say anything wrong, how is saying "hey I want that life" wrong? Typical cancel culture snowfake.

[@lbakicz]

@@anderson-gb8rp i dont know, maybe mentaly ill person spewing out his twisted view on women for his young audience who probably never talked to womane before isnt that cool, he basicly is leaning towards the incel community, basicly giving them ideology that wil repulse women, making them actual incels

[@ckpn4771]

​@@anderson-gb8rp Who in this comment section pointed out that Greek said something wrong?

[@firepitch5113]

Honestly the tate rabbit hole is the funniest binge Ive ever done, his "Your mom's house" guest podcast was one of the funniest podcasts I've seen dude know what he's doing lmao

[@PlutoTheGod]

Its so weird to see all these guys I watched as a young teen now that they all got famous and changed into different people. I remember when Greek would go around trolling everyone and his appearance made every stream 10x better, sodapoppin would get yelled at by his parents for being too loud at night, doctor disrespect would have the shittest webcam mic and only play king of the kill etc. now they’re all millionaires and completely changed people

[@bootsie5396]

Frrr

[@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386]

Money and fame changes you who would have thought 🤔

[@nat0rade]

Don’t forget ninja!!!!! Top of the world to super obscure

[@MoistPinata]

Damn it’s like people are constantly changing

[@zeening]

@LunaticKing-fj3hp no. lol

[@sSynclare]

it was only a matter of time.. i seen a vid like this coming since i unfollowed him after he lost all his weight and could tell his mental has been fucked for the worse. and only went more and more downhill. i was a pre day-1 follower since he started popping up in t1 variety streams and ive been there for 90% of his streams and his alt streams since he started over the years even during when he was losing the weight he wasnt that bad his ego wasnt even on the top yet after losing a lot of weight, i honestly have no idea what triggered this kind of mindset but he ditched for a few months and just started coming on other peoples streams and u could tell he was extra toxic and it just grew worse and worse.. to me it's just so sad its like we'll never see old greek ever again. its like the dude just logged off irl one day and someone stole his password and some andrew tate worshipping zoomer just logged in posing as him now. the difference between the 2 personalities are truly literally night and day.

[@Nrowi]

Well said

[@xLamont_]

Nah people just don't understand bro lost that weight and tapped into his true self seeing how differently he was treated after losing weight. Fake ass friends, fake ass fans, fake ass family, etc. Yall say yall want the old Greek the fat dude who stream sniped and raged all the time instead of healthy greek fishing and hiking and shit. After that it's fine to change your opinion on how you see the world and woman because it's not the same.

[@johnwilliam9954]

@@xLamont_ they want a sound person ,not a person whose ego is too hard to carry even for himself. No one says he shouldn't be healthy physically , but now he isn't healthy mentally

[@xLamont_]

@@johnwilliam9954 Well, can't have both easily for some people.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@xLamont_ then its not the other people who are the problem, he is. Contrary to what you said in the first post you made

[@TTDben1]

5:44 actually made me happy you could see they put the banter aside for a second and tell how much he wanted to fianlly be a streamer and how actually happy tyler was for his friend. the golden arc of twitch

[@virux4107]

I miss it. Watching old clips and vods every once in a while. Its truly sad how greek turned into something so bad

[@GrantMeDeath1207]

the day greek and tyler was the paradigm shift in our reality

[@monric5730]

I haven’t seen him that happy in years

[@shai310]

@@virux4107 Yeah, to me it's just Greek's ego getting to him and turning him to something else. He clearly wanted the attention and wanted to grow big on the platform and when it did happen his ego finally got to him. He burned bridges with all of his friends, including the ones who helped him grow big (T1 and Soda) so it's sad to see him go down this path.

[@holhorse3808]

8:05

[@kalashnikov1343]

This is sad for me because I've watched all the Tyler and Greek collabs out there, multiple times over. They're all infinitely hilarious and entertaining. We all wish everybody could just be truly happy but it's not so simple.

[@unknownplayer1552]

Jesus christ.... where did this guy go... this is sad

[@ghostlegacy5701]

Focusing on reairy

[@Orgil.]

Tate brain washed him

[@Electronica27]

@@Orgil. Really wild how many people would listen to anyone simply because they have a platform. I just remember watching Monty Python's Life of Brian, and how Brian got a massive following just because he barely implied maybe getting immortality? Been tempted by the Red Pill myself too, it takes anchoring yourself to reality to really not be. Honestly the stuff Andrew Tate says legitimately makes me want to vomit.

[@nottengen9178]

@@Orgil. this is why the act that Tate plays isnt funny, this is what it does to people who're easily manipulated by others, hes just following the bandwagon of relevancy even if he has to throw away his dignity. honestly so sad to see.

[@ToastyBB]

@@Orgil. who is tate

[@ocha-time]

He lost a shit ton of weight and then he broadcast how he really feels about those around him. He was just hiding behind insecurity, now you get a taste of the kind of man he was behind the veneer

[@glcsander]

People say this all the time money doesn't change you it magnifies who you already are, this guy came to fame by biting other taills, thinking fame and money would change his lonely life which it did but he himself never changed, its sad cause no matter what anyone says about Tyler that guy is nothing but consistent, and he truly loves what he does and is community. This also shows that streaming is not for everyone to do.

[@ishizukahikaru643]

I think he sees other streamers as work collegues rather than friends, because he sees streaming as a job. And what he really wants is just to have a traditional family, get married and have kids. And feels trapped because his private life and work are together. On top of it, streamer females or in those circles are not wife material, and even sleeping around or trying to date them is risky of scandal.

[@CC-uf8wi]

I think a lot of guys lose weight and build muscle thinking it unlocks the parts of life they have always wanted. And when they find out how little that works, and how nothing changes if your attitude doesn’t, they tend to either accept reality or double down into the rabbit hole. I’m sure being his size he has plenty of reasons for himself, but he seems like the kind of guy that did it more for others, rather than himself.

[@Godloveszaza]

@@glcsander money does change u.

[@BlueRidgeBubble]

@@CC-uf8wi I weighed 450 at one point Got down to 190, gained some muscle and whatnot Didn't really change me much Up until something unfortunate happened, it was like for the first time in my life the depression that has ruled me for as long as I can remember was just gone - I felt so airy and just full of light to bursting Unfortunately I paid the price for my previous sloth and miscare of my body, I lost all of my teeth really quickly. Losing weight that fast screws with your body - my hair got thinner, but then got thicker when I went through basically a second puberty, and after a 12 pack of Pibb a day for years, teeth just finally went Still working on getting them fixed before they kill me Ah life, always keeping me humble I lost the weight for myself and my girlfriend though - and my little brother was shot and killed and that kind of made me face my mortality and such Greek just never got that kind of character development

[@ExplainNation24]

When Greek took a break from streaming it seemed that he didn't stay in contact with his friends and his friends didn't stay in contact with him. When Greek streamed his friends wanted to hang out with him but when he took a break no one want to be with him. That can easily mess up someones mental state. During his break it seem like he was isolated from everyone and he spiraled and became unironically unhinged.

[@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386]

Its almost like that movie lottery ticket where everyone wanted to suck up go the guy who got the jackpot except here its real life with no happy ending in sight

[@joshjonson2368]

Lol, that's because he's in America and in the twitch scene, as if regular Americans aren't ratty enough twitch Americans are on a different level of rat

[@tactictornado]

Bro makes Netflix style documentaries for us, without a subscription, mad respect

[@JonnyBoyOfficial]

Yeah, dude Jabroney is one of the best

[@diddlyharbo9527]

he still gets paid? lol what do you think the adds are for?

[@tomas753CZ]

@@diddlyharbo9527 I think his point was that you don't gotta pay

[@diddlyharbo9527]

@@tomas753CZ yes, And my point is the guy isn't doing it out of the goodness of his heart lol, he profits, same as netfilx, so I have no more respect for him then for someone who works on a netfilx doc.

[@bilbof4854]

indeed , but sunnyv2 far more better for me

[@krayy_owo]

Greek clearly suffered very poor mental health from the start. The story of how he became a streamer is highly indicative of someone utterly desperate for attention and approval from others. I wish nothing but the best for him and I hope he has a therapist to help him work through his struggles.

[@iwantlee9510]

Few obese people are mentally healthy.

[@pantherpopel551]

@@iwantlee9510 Bro, im in my Psych Masters and i beg you to not talk out of your a** about the mental health of people.

[@Mr_Mistah]

He was morbidly obese of course he has mental problems

[@wasted9689]

@@iwantlee9510 What the fuck is that supposed to mean? What a dumb take.

[@Mikebrowski]

I have this issue.. and I am not sure how to fix it myself I dont have the money for a therapist. But I can work on my physyical health at least. I can't quite decide if I am seeking attention or just simple human interaction though... I hope people cheerish their friends.

[@waldevv]

No wonder why I haven't heard from him, I never watched his streams since the whole IRL/popular games categories are not something that I watch but I saw clips every now and then. Watched a part of one of his vods from a few days ago and his behaviour is unbelievable, everything sounds like a weird joke until you realize he isn't joking and keeps spouting about the same stuff for minutes and constantly praising how good he is Hopefully he gets the help he needs

[@Lizara14]

This description reminds me of Kanye West and how he acts

[@morbidgull8922]

Haven’t watched twitch for almost 4 years it’s kind of fucked how far Greek has truly fallen. I remember his first big stream and his great weight lost journey.

[@SB-nh7uv]

he is probably still more successful than you lol

[@Sprouze2]

@@SB-nh7uv the fuck has that got to do with anything

[@MunchkinBoy0308]

@@SB-nh7uv incel spotted

[@justinklaassen7190]

@@SB-nh7uv wow, out of anything you could've typed out of the infinite possibilities, you chose this.

[@FPSscript]

water under the bridge

[@XIronelfX]

The absolute saddest thing was watcing this video and genuinely laughing and smiling when you showed the clips of Tyler and Greek play CSGO. The loud obnoxious yelling into the mic reminded me how much I loved that era of Twitch, Tyler & Greek. Really hope he gets better, but at the same time these kind of angry people only ever get worse and worse.

[@signoguns8501]

He has to acknowledge that he's made mistakes first. Admit that he was wrong. Getting people like this to admit they are at fault is near impossible. They just dig in and double down until they have alienated everyone around them.

[@miirico5398]

The fact that his admiring Andrew Tate, believing the earth is fucking flat really shows a red flag that his gonna go even deeper into shit, Its quite unfortunate since I really love watching him and Tyler1 play before but people move on, either to the good side or to the bad side. Its entirely up to him to realise this sooner or else he'll fall into a deeper hole.

[@MeatSlap30]

That shit is so annoying why do people even like that type of content? Just seems like a bunch of man children attracting a child audience cause it’s so painfully unfunny

[@zeening]

@@MMAmatchups the not based rise of shitposting idiots gaslighting the already fked up guy

[@da4127]

Twitch was different back then, truly a site to stream videogames, now idk what it is anymore, like most of the streamers I used to watch had their best moment then

[@papapur]

When living in a world where one is trapped in the internet, a specific result emerges: fake friendships, and everyone tries to create content from it at any cost. For one's own well-being, it is best to escape this mental captivity and engage more with real life.

[@potatotomato729]

Greek made his insecurities worse by rotting his brain from being terminally online. Really sad.

[@johnan06]

For long term viewers of Greek, it feels surreal how he is acting now because you don't know if he is trolling or not because the Greek in the past would have easily made fun and create jokes of the Greek he is now

[@L.A.M.B_B4]

The amount of times i've heard "Old (enter youtuber/streamer name) would not like new (enter youtuber/streamer name)" is way too much

[@Number1FanProductions]

@@L.A.M.B_B4 sadly most of the time it’s true lol, it’s hard to solely focus on a massive streaming career while maintaining your core principles and sanity simultaneously, it’s why so many good people go bad when money gets involved, they lose touch and become desensitized to the things they thought scummy/bad before.

[@floopi66]

he was happier with tyler because there was a time they were really genuine friends with each other

[@jensen4993]

He’s just become lost ever since he lost weight. When I lost weight and became attractive I never gained and ego boost because I was rejected my whole life for being unattractive. When Greek lost weight it got to his head and boosted his ego to an insane amount. He has no filter now and is showing his true self

[@rykehuss3435]

@@L.A.M.B_B4 Nowhere is that old vs new mentality more pronounced than in Forsen. There's old old Forsen (SC2), old Forsen (HS), old new Forsen (PUBG) and new Forsen (variety)

[@hammond9866]

he started sniffing coke disguised it as going to gym crippling depression

[@BigPapiLoc]

when I started taking (legally prescribed) stimulants everyone thought I was hitting the gym heavy. with how fast greek lost weight and knowing how rampant adderall is abused by streamers I have no doubt he was popping them like candy

[@syndrodome]

“Streaming- believe it or not- is mentally damaging to my brain.” Yes Greek, It is.

[@skillboom2]

"It was actually me that banned him, not my sheep mods" what a raw line from Erob

[@elcato8126]

Damn that Mizkif bit on Greek is some insane irony. Mizkif is beyond evil and I'm so glad he's on his own downward spiral.

[@JohnSmith-wd1oq]

Lol Greek says he wants a traditional relationship the entirety of twitch f slurs sperg out. Mizkif pimping out whores for content to his 14 year old audience totally the good guy lol.

[@tor2007]

it’s so sad seeing this man going down a dark hole. i miss seeing him stream with tyler, one of the best ages of content on twitch. it sucks we will never to see them on a stream together.

[@boboertyusa]

I think the final stream they did together was a minecraft tournament stream lol 🥲

[@BreiiisBreiiis]

I still believe their Arma 3 RP streams to be the peak of streaming and gaming comedy.

[@Astelch]

Tyler is one of the realest dudes on twitch. If tyler saw greek changed for the worst it tells. Greekgod is just an incel now who rants about being a top G.

[@JAK_EDITS.]

@@BreiiisBreiiis I remember legit crying laughing to some of those duo- arma streams in college...

[@projectx7453]

Agree

[@MontyLeaf]

I didnt know he started out as a stream sniper, lol

[@JonnyBoyOfficial]

The more you know

[@trollardo9720]

Why do you think we call him the biggest leech of Twitch?

[@MultiFunnyman10]

It all started in sodapoppins stream. Soda basically made Greek famous

[@bloodbath1110]

the guy is a parasite always has been always will be.

[@DoomedKnight]

Yeah learning that really shows what kind of person he is. 6 months straight of stream sniping! There is something wrong there.

[@PsychoBenches]

Greek was a broken man. He got on the right track but then he went backwards. I hope he does better.

[@Pacers00]

Idk Tyler 1 smiling just makes me smile shit is contagious

[@sampuhhupmas5666]

That's the most genuine face of happiness I've seen in a while

[@ParallaxHearts]

He was alright during the Cx days. Now if I saw him on the sidewalk I'd immediately cross the street

[@ArnoldRandom]

Ouch, that wasn’t aimed towards me but even I felt it! The worse part is that the Cx days was bad, horribly bad…

[@spetsnaz4537]

weeb

[@BurritooMafia]

Tyler and Greek variety streams were the best back in the day.

[@OneColdtruth]

Man...this fucking guy completely went into an downward spiral along with burning every bridge in sight. Its so hard not to feel sorry for him, dude needs a break from the internet and also i miss the workout advice streams truly his golden arc trying to uplift others not whatever beast he is now.

[@QuackSus]

hes gotta be on drugs

[@pain002]

@@QuackSus he is schizophrenic that's more than enough

[@bilbosaggins4865]

@@QuackSus If he is not, he needs to get on them, if he is, he needs to get off them.

[@QuackSus]

@@bilbosaggins4865 in that clip of him talking on the tiktok stream it really seems like it

[@Jekiterio]

He does want to uplift others, but he is probably too pessimistic nowadays because of how fucked up society is in general, seeing how these corporate companies pushes drama to the front and encourage weird ass activity like ASMR and nudity.

[@Retrophoria]

Tyler was correct the second greek lost the weight he lost the humor too. He should have just took the money he had and left the internet to do something more fulfilling to him because the likable persona he built was long gone.

[@johnan06]

Greek mentioned that he doesnt need streaming for money anymore because theres someone investing his money for him. Why do you think he can afford to ditch for so long?

[@Retrophoria]

@@johnan06 ? That's my point he doesn't NEED to stream anymore and clearly doesn't enjoy it which is why his viewers stopped enjoying his streams. It would be much more healthy for him to just leave the internet at this point.

[@johnan06]

@@Retrophoria yes but you dont get it, if he doesnt like to stream he, he sure as hell wont. If he streams, it means he still likes streaming to a certain degree. You dont have to stop streaming to start on other things you know?

[@Retrophoria]

@@johnan06 he literally said streaming was mentally damaging to him when he went on his women rant. He only streams now for his ego.

[@johnan06]

@@Retrophoria That makes no sense tho? He streams pretty much similar amount of hours since his ditchgodx days and back then he was more depressed then now. He even mentioned being happier now that he lost this weight, so are you saying greek has always been streaming for ego since his fat days? 🤦

[@Chimpmanboom]

There is a timeline where Tyler chose greek over league. Oh well all good things come to an end.

[@B0Sajwah]

The most human thing Greek did was those tears when he cried when he met tyler1 for the first time. I wish him the best and hope he recovers

[@1Corinthians151-4]

nothing is going to change him unless he gives up on himself.

[@Xtremedave2]

@@1Corinthians151-4That is literally the opposite of what he should do???

[@Matas04]

Recovers from what, everything is good hes a G

[@RandomHispanicDude]

He just got overly lonely. That's exactly what happened. He never once felt like that he was truly part of any of the groups he drifted between, but that he was an outlying 'friend' that was expendable to the group. Whenever he'd leave one of these groups and they could continue their lives, it would reaffirm in his mind that he was right, that he was expendable. This damaged mindset continued to fester and boil until he became the incredibly jaded, friendless person that he is. At that point, the weird content and controversial takes are just a product of a mentally self-isolated man. His paranoia born of lonliness is what destroyed him. Many of us go through it all the time, he unfortunately was broadcasting the insecure spiral to the world, where as most people do it quietly and privately. It's sad in a way, but he's beyond the point of being salvaged. He needs outside help, someone to grab on and refuse to let go until he's better, but nobody would ever do that considering where he mentally is now. It's over for him.

[@SneakyG59]

yep you pretty much nailed it IMO. It's a self fulfilling prophecy as well, the more you think you're expendable and feel you dont belong, the more you start to look for signs that confirm that, even if they aren't there.

[@BartMK]

All he needed is just to accept that you are born alone, and die alone. You make some friends in life, but most of them aren't really "real". Idk, I had a similar issue and once I completely accepted loneliness the opposite happened. I attracted more ppl that want to stay or maybe I just stopped giving a fuck about the ones who don't.

[@BartMK]

@Durgle That's your perspective, you are free to have it

[@Matt-ry5xj]

damn i relate to that a little bit too much

[@lw8882]

It's never over for someone suffering from a mental health crisis. That's an incredibly selfish take on an important and often misunderstood issue. Please have some compassion for those you say need help.

[@tonytackett1905]

The clip of him meeting Tyler for the first time gets me choked up every time I see it.

[@CrRaZzyX]

I wasn't a regular viewer but i felt something wrong the moment his humour started to change, it almost feeks like his personality did a 180° after watching the vid he feels like a different person for the worse. What a shame.

[@JonnyBoyOfficial]

Hope he is able to kinda get that personality back. Only hope though.

[@FuturePastPerson]

@@JonnyBoyOfficial his personality Greeks without the g

[@Destroyer19941995]

Its actually very good that he can change personality that fast. More humans need to be like that for maximum life.

[@OppaiGod]

Yea most of his "friends" started noticing that when he lost hi weight

[@derekrivas1394]

Loved his humor and now he’s completely 180 his personality Worked on his outside but not his inside

[@supremegaming8794]

i followed and watched Greek religiously right before the weight loss, Tyler is 100% right Greek was never the same after the weight loss its a shame i genuinely loved his streams and was one of the funniest people on Twitch

[@Greg_Stache]

Something must have happened off-stream to Greek with the other streamers. Turning your friends/colleagues to enemies without reason is just insane. I don’t think Greek is insane, I think he hit a critical point in his life and maybe just maybe streaming isn’t for him anymore. Maybe he wants to do something else but afraid to admit it. Admit it to himself. I pray he finds himself and becomes happy. Fix the bridges he burn and just be happy

[@aelivare2775]

It's not insane, it's a very common thing that happens when someone is very mentally ill. Various mental issues can cause you to turn away from your friends and family, since it can warp the way you think about them, the world and yourself. It can be from a very depressed viewpoint, where you don't believe you deserve anyone's love and time and feel like a burden, or like how Greek is likely seeing things: from a very angry viewpoint, where the world has done you wrong and that's why you feel the way you do.

[@wealthybone2990]

I mean maybe after losing all that weight he probably thought he didn't need them or really cared about anyone else just himself.

[@teapeaa]

@@aelivare2775 i think you summed it up really well. I just pity him. He's not happy but he probably thinks he's better than moving on and getting a average joe job and quit streaming.

[@Greg_Stache]

@@aelivare2775 if it’s mental illness than that is a reason. Insane is merely something that’s not justifiable.

[@Greg_Stache]

@@wealthybone2990 I don’t think so. He lost the weight and was still around them with no issues. This is why I think there is more to this situation then what is shown on stream.

[@xnightsamax7149]

this is beyond saddening, greek when i was at my lowest changed my life for the better. he gave me a reason to want to live again. and to see how far hes actually fallen is so saddening. i hope he can get the help he needs.

[@mcwinterhockey]

Tyler1 and Greek on variety was the best content in Twitch' history.

[@madmike2279]

Real, still rewatching some of their old streams when they played together, but it's bittersweet knowing how things are now

[@SharmV]

The flat earth argument is the nail in the coffin, he said it with such conviction.

[@syndrodome]

i love the “Globetard” comment as well. Anyone who is childish enough to come up with a word to insult someone for disagreeing with them is too far gone.

[@syndrodome]

As well as agreeing with something that has been so disproven it’s insane. There is absolutely no reason to think the Earth is flat. No other reason other than plain ignorance. There is no evidence, and any evidence that has been brought forward has been easily disproven- sometimes even by the people who tried to prove it themself (As in their own evidence proved their theory wrong, because they are wrong.)

[@OdaSwifteye]

He made it sound like Asmogold was the weirdo for believing in the globe even though that's what the vast majority of people understand it. Even if it turns out the earth was flat there's no reason to be an asshole to the uninformed.

[@fancen]

thats funny since that was the most satire part about this whole video kid

[@syndrodome]

@@fancen ok

[@Progs420]

If streaming is damaging his mind (which it obviously does) maybe he should be the one cooking and cleaning.

[@wudly9195]

I dont think him being red pill is the reason he lost viewers. That didnt stop Adin Ross or Tate from getting massive attention. Its because he stopped gaming and tried the IRL stream, which his fans didn't like. There are too many boring IRL streams, so he just blended in with them. Thats literally it. This video is so dramatic lol.

[@kltil5082]

Adin Ross doesn't angrily tell women they can't have a career if they're with him. And Tate despite what a POS he has been is at least humorous sometimes. Greek isn't funny, he's just cringe

[@genesis5294]

I started watching greek after he lost weight and joined nmp house and im not going to lie at first he wasn't that bad he was giving some advices to his community and the streams were pretty chill. I don't know what happened to him but i just hope he gets help and if he's depress (cause he actually look sad inside) that he won't do something bad to his life. I still hope that maybe one day he will do a stream explaining everything and doing an apology.

[@kalinadog7176]

He will never be the same, even if he gained all that weight back. The humor that came before was a unique coping mechanism. To deal with himself and most importantly others (since he spent so much time on the internet gathering attention). Once he lost the weight, I think he realized why people joked and kept him around. Gaining all that back wouldn't make him funny again, he'd probably kill himself. You can see his personality now in his old personality ... The biggest thing missing is the humor.

[@danielgiurcan5309]

bro i feel the same as him what should i do now

[@humansizedbirdnest9435]

⁠@@danielgiurcan5309 maybe you’ve got to find your true self now? Dig deep analyze what makes you happy and what you like about yourself without the pressure to be liked by others. Idk if this is good advice or not just something to think about, I’m no expert😅

[@mcdaici]

@@danielgiurcan5309 i dont know where u are in life right now but what helped me is finding something im good at while also being able to express my character with it. Fitness helped me to get a fitter body and mind so i could see the world clearer. Wish u the best!

[@JohnGrandline]

Lift weights, 100 situps, 100 pushups, 10km run, remember to rest/sleep enough, use less sugar and coffee, eat broccoli etc. and get sunlight vitamin D though avoid skin burns etc. Meditate/Jesus for spirituality

[@noreply-mp]

You missed his girlfriend kitty, i feel that was a big part of the downfall. Thanks for the making the video

[@supportmyresistance]

Your commentary is great man. Keep it up ! Was very entertaining to watch. When greek cried OMG that was so wholesome. Man was so happy to see tyler1

[@smokesspeedruncorner8600]

Most people credit Greek's downfall to the weight loss but in reality he was never the same after Byron's suicide. He was still happy go lucky and his normal self after he lost the weight, but after Reckful's passing he changed 100%.

[@hido...]

No Greek just became arrogant and gained an ego after losing weight.

[@doroza2lol]

@@hido... He has the right to have bigger ego after loosing that much weight. (BTW for people trying to loose weight, most of you will be a lil bit arrogant but wont turn like greek level of arrogant, so keep lifting, because fat is not progressive). We all get arrogant after getting big W in life, its not something irregular. He was not even that toxic in 2020, he collabed with nmplol for quite a while and Nick liked him in that time probably still likes him. So saying its because of losing weight is you being delusional, because he is fit for like 3 years now and his trash behavior came out recently.

[@hido...]

@@doroza2lol no his behavior has changed ever since he came back after losing weight and it has just been getting worse not just recently. "Not that toxic" still constitutes as toxic regardless. Also I dont know who "we" is but when I got fit I only gained confidence. I know better than to get an ego or become arrogant after losing weight that is a you problem.

[@kltil5082]

Right because your friend dying is why you would turn into an incel. I've lost a ton of friends to drugs, suicide, murder etc. Yet none of those situations turned me into a douchebag that is angry with women. I don't know why people keep trying to make excuses for guys like this.

[@HeyImBubProductions]

I really love Greek. I'm really sad to see him go down the path he did. It seams that he is very angry at something in his life and its consumed him. I hope he comes to terms with the hurts in his life and finds happiness. I really want the best for him. Greek will always be my favorite streamer.

[@whatdayisit20]

Watching Greek and Tyler1 play variety games on Twitch was peak. Twitch will never be that good again. Its so sad to see that Greek has fallen so far. Tyler 1 was right with what he said, he lost all that weight which is amazing, but also lost his sense of humor.

[@squidy4082]

That was an amazing time, I remember binge watching the fuck out of all their videos, they were an amazing duo, I miss them

[@teapeaa]

Thanks for covering this, was a really strange and somewhat upsetting turn of events to watch unfold, i really did like him

[@omensoffate]

You didn’t even know him

[@weelee4352]

Sometimes depression can be so severe that people have a bit of a break from reality and become paranoid and begin isolating themselves

[@Tuchh]

I'm sorry but you've missed a big part of Greeks happiness - Reckful..

[@Xavanux]

The loss of Greek’s friend and source of support can lead to someone’s mental state being completely destroyed or rewired. I think this is what happened to him. Greek needs help.

[@apjapki]

Apparently twitch streamers stalk and bully each other like ten years olds with crushes. The more you know.

[@blahquinnyblah]

Views. Idk why anyone is surprised.

[@apjapki]

@@blahquinnyblah I understood. I just didn't know before. You have to imagine the sort of people that would watch a sniper's stream.

[@roaming740]

whatever, i will never forget those variety days...

[@BGFutureBG]

That's such a great response from Minx tho. You could see it affected her but she responded with a caring message instead of lashing out

[@gamesux420]

Greek was like a beacon of positivity it was impossible to have greek on stream and not have your mood brightened immediately, now he says that he doesnt even want to stream because other people arent "worth his time" as he could be spending that time working out.

[@llewboy9973]

I honestly feel like he's had a breakdown, and doesn't believe what he's saying, but mentally feels like he needs to say it.

[@slyzzl3]

really miss that 2017 twitch con era. literally the funniest time to be watching twitch by far

[@apjapki]

Hanging around listening to streamers talk about how many more viewers they want is something I will never understand.

[@Vinny200]

Been watching Greek since the Tyler1 days on H1Z1.. This video is brilliant. Really does show how much hard work, sweat and tears this guy put into climbing the Twitch ladder. Not many others could do what he has done. It defiintely seems like at the time he had the idea, knew what to do to get that and completed his goal. The weight loss is a huge accomplishment. Maybe all the years of being a comedian has finally caught up to him. He's achieved those goals he had set out. One of the most annoying things when you're in a weird head space is having to read and listen to what other people think. It's horrible to think maybe where you are, isn't actually the right frame of mind. At the end of the day, Greek has done amazing things. I really hope he is happy in whatever he does from here on. Deserves it. The amount of joy and happiness he has given to others in the earlier days to now without any of the recent drama and questionable speeches etc. Everyone in that line of work seems to need a break now and then, I feel like he's been acting for so long that he's now only figuring out what he truely wants. I'm not a frigging psychiatrist. Just a guy that cares. Must be hard at the end of the day to deal with the harsh words/opinions of others, surrounding recent events. Even if it's from your own actions.. As much as you don't want to listen to it all, I'm pretty sure that the majority of people would like to see Greek happy again and not so muddled. (I say muddled, he might be happy, but it doesn't come across that way with all of the life talks etc...) Fingers crossed for ya Greek, with whatever you do from here, take a breath and enjoy the little things. Set new goals, and do you. :) I should take my advice and do the same! Haha. Best of luck. :)

[@TheOnlyIncognito]

If it wasn't for Greek, I would not have discovered streaming back in 2017. Ever since I saw one of his streams I was hooked. I mean completely got all my entertainment from streams nothing else.

[@doaflip4176]

I remember when greek played a way out with tyler. Those were the best

[@calypso819]

I feel like when you're insecure about your weight it'd be normal to assume you'd use humour to cope with that, which is what Greek seemed to be doing. When he lost the weight he lost the only thing that made him a likeable person, that humour bred from insecurities. Once, in your head, you see yourself as well-abled, and it's a feeling you're not used to, I feel like that can inflate ones ego quite a bit.

[@RomanianReaver]

Looking back on it... him burning the bridge with Mizkif is probably not without great reason.

[@Pazzel]

this once was my favorite streamer, now i feel only pity for him and hope he gets the help he needs

[@DoingNothingKing]

Another thing to add on that trainwreck made apparent. Greek got prescribed Adderal about a year+ ago. And feel ever since he got the prescriptions, he has change the most. Train even said it months ago it “Greek doesn’t need the Adderal, when he’s on it he talks million miles per hour. And his Brian doesn’t shut up” I truly feel Adderal is the big factor here.

[@boozecruiser]

Adderall is basically speed and it shouldn't be given to anyone. It ruins people's minds to produce profits

[@TripleNickelz]

This is a perfect example of how narcissistic Mizkif is at 1:03, he literally leached his way from Ice Poseiden camera man, to leveling Mitch Jones WoW toons to making KZbin videos and using those contacts to leach his way into streaming. Once you realize how narcissistic Mizkif is you can't unsee it when watching clips. He makes statements most think are jokes but it's actually how he feels.

[@amoney1421]

Its so crazy what happended to him. Its almost like watching him post weight loss: hes being ironic and playing a character but hes not. The old greek is really gone, the loud laughs and falling down exploding memes turned into conspiracy theories and toxic drama. Wtf brother. its crazy what mental health will do to someone.

[@LND209]

After Greek and Tyler1 stopped doing variety streams, I just stopped finding Greek funny and entertaining. It was just him reacting to videos. Tyler1 is also to blame for variety streams going away, but Tyler1 is still funny and entertaining. At the end of the day, Greek was 1/2 of the most entertaining duo in Twitch history. Sad that he went downhill so fast.

[@VeryHandsomeAndTall]

My fav part is they always used steam call and it made the audio more scuffed and funnier. I miss these streams.

[@dhgzebraa261]

Dude just lost a little bit of weight so he didn’t look obese and now he thinks he’s a gigachad

[@_The_Traveler_]

So I've never actually watched Greek, I've always had a very loose understanding of who he was as an online personality, and I'm not claiming to have any of the answers for anyone. These are just my thoughts, so take them with a handful of salt. I think a large part of the issue here is how his channel got started. Because he initially began his "career" as a known and despised stream sniper, he probably attracted a very particular kind of audience (people who make a diet of watching toxic content as entertainment). As he began to blow up, he was still "imperfect" enough for his audience to love him, and as he started partnering with other streamers his audience grew beyond his initial demographic. Problem is, as Greek started to work on himself and attempt to become a better person, the bulk of his old demographic started losing the things they originally loved about him considering they made a connection between him losing weight/being more outgoing with him losing what originally made him appealing. Sure, plenty of people were happy that he lost weight and began to branch out and make more relationships with people, but there was clearly a very vocal group of people that wanted the "classic" Greek back. What I think they wanted back was the same chaotic, toxic content. A lot of the fans that came in after he started becoming popular are a bit more tame than his initial demo, and therefore had a different way of looking at how Greek had changed. They didn't mind the change in content, they just genuinely cared about him. It seems like the toxic fans that were no longer getting their preferred content (a fat guy stream sniping people and generally being annoying and toxic) added a lot of pressure to an already stressful career that I'm not sure Greek was expecting. I think he expected to have fun trolling and goofing off with buddies, but I don't think he anticipated all of the thankless work that goes into professional streaming. Having to fight his own audience on top of everything else going on in his life probably broke him. I think he may be trying to cater to that old demographic with edgier content these days, in an effort to reclaim what made him big in the first place. But this isn't his account of things, it's someone else's video of their perception of the events (and only the ones that were made public). And like I said, I've never actually watched a ton of his content, and I don't know him well enough to understand how to frame his pretense. These are just thoughts, not meant as a diagnosis. I strongly dissuade _anyone_ from taking _any_ portion of this and running with it as if it's factual. Only Greek understands what's happening to him right now. We all know how his behavior makes us feel, but we have never truly known him (and I don't mean that in a negative or positive way, simply speaking of the potential unknown). That would be naively para-social for any of us to assume.

[@pies-of-pain2877]

This is a great comment and it really does seem like it's reminiscent of many other "edgier" creators who have come and gone. Honestly Ice Poseidon went through something similar because the type of edgy/annoying people content he made attracted the worst kinds of people and them and the streamer just sort of fed into each other, and most people don't even consider other factors in the background like life and job stress on top of that. People like Greek or Ice don't even really have the luxury of being depressed about it because of well...what they sort of surrounded themselves with would leap down their throats if they ever go public with it. "Live by the sword, die by the sword" indeed.

[@_The_Traveler_]

@@pies-of-pain2877 That last line was the mic drop!

[@drpepper9004]

Agreed on the toxic community part but I dont think hes being toxic on purpose nowadays, I think being fucked over nonstop, the stress of streaming, the fast and overwhelming rise to fame and negative experiences with women just fried his fucking brain

[@_The_Traveler_]

@@drpepper9004 I was being delicate with my assessment and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt simply because I don't know a lot about him, but that sounds pretty plausible. Maybe he was doing it to be cheeky at first, but perhaps now it's all devolved into pure angst.

[@mauser8679]

As someone who has had problems with Amphetamines, it wouldn't be surprising to me if Greek was abusing them. If he was taking a bunch of adderall to stream, then loses a bunch of weight, then now starting to believe in conspiracy theories and acting manic. Just from the way he talks and acts it looks like he is speeding like crazy and going through psychosis.

[@ericainspace]

I've never heard of this guy and I'm not even done the video, but dude, that stream sniping shit was hilarious

[@Duran762]

Greek is going down the same path as Etika. Turning everyone down and becoming mental with these conspiracy theories. Greek did not look himself at all...

[@CykaBlyatAlex]

I’ve been thinking the same thing man, hoping for the best.

[@takenz4552]

That "come back to us" hit hard, i knew greek from the old Arma 3 RP times, sad to see what happened to him.

[@vertexshorts2527]

Streaming is “meantally damaging” because of how he streamed, he only has his self to blame for the road he went down and its really sad. What a shame. You can also see the phases he went through and how he starts to contradict his self, he went from such a humble guy, then he claims hes a victim who just wants to be happy and 2k viewers is fine, then he goes and says “idc about my girls stream you only got 2k viewers anyways no one cares.” Like that just dont make sense man

[@RoundBaguette]

I miss old Greek

[@FriendsForFriends666]

plato?

[@TheMrWelshy]

@@FriendsForFriends666 Well played

[@bawsypvp5481]

dude your video is unbelievably well done

[@ryuyokamikaze]

I never knew how fucking outrageous this guy turned out to be

[@mrgamingpanda16]

I didn't like him but I never knew the toll on his mental health. I feel for him now. I really hope he can get it all together and continue a good career in streaming.

[@berdgar]

In all honesty greek done what he said he killed his channel and started fresh,his streams are much more genuine than what exists out there trying to pass on some positivity ill take that than what most streamers content is nowadays hope he gets fulfilment out of this and keeps growing as a person.

[@mechadonia]

He lost weight and then literally went insane. Poor guy I honestly hope he’s able to find happiness tbh.

[@JohnesRoladias]

He just lazy guy with big ego

[@flapjackpancake5486]

his personality melted along with his fat

[@SSXVegeta]

steroids, theyll do that.

[@mechadonia]

@@SSXVegeta actually no they don’t lol

[@mauser8679]

@@SSXVegeta Amphetamine* he is clearly going through psychosis

[@articade]

I remember listening to his conversations with SweetAnita and thinking this dude is funny as hell. He went from depressed to narcissist

[@TheprogresBMX]

I’m over a year and a half in the gym and weight loss. This is teaching me that even at my goal weight my insecurities can always shine if I don’t work on them first. It wasn’t his weight on his body that was the problem, it was the weight on his soul😪😂

[@George-fc8lf]

Dude was one of my favorite people to watch never failed to make me smile

[@FriendsForFriends666]

''i'm friends with all your friends now'' lol what kind of person says this? come on miz...

[@natebox4550]

Tbf the guy sounds like an asshole now, I see nothing wrong with making fun of him.

[@MrGister9999]

I'm gonna have to agree, as much as I don't like what greek as become, I'm also a bit suprised with miz's ego

[@FriendsForFriends666]

@@MrGister9999 there are no friends anymore. Its only trading subs and likes. Welcome to the tate world!!! :p

[@RasakBlood]

Same kind of phyco like somone that stalks streamers screaming like a stuck pig to try and get started with streaming. Psychopaths that do anything to get attention and subs.

[@NECP25]

This was kind of out of context since there is a longer clip of miz talking about greek, But Greek insulted him and was talking trash about miz and some other stuff I bellive so Miz said it like this, it seems worse out of context in this clip then when he actually said it

[@ItsRawdraft2]

Bro lost the weight but kept the insecurity lmao

[@almightysyg861]

Why do you think Tyler stopped talking to him? Greek was so obviously toxic and didn't know when to turn the the switch off. He was so funny when he wanted to be but that's not enough to want to keep around. The weight loss journey was cool and all but it gave him a incredibly huge ego. He didn't want to take any advice from his streamer friends and just opened his mouth like what he said had no consequences. Can he make a comeback? Anything is possible. People really do have love for him but he has to start by acknowledging and apologizing for what he's done.

[@mayamagination]

You're just speculating now ..

[@almightysyg861]

@@mayamagination it’s pretty obvious if you see the last time T1 played with him. Greek is just being cringe and toxic. He disrespected Kayla every time her name came up.

[@alainerookkitsunev5605]

He had a huge ego from the start. His ego just shifted a bit.

[@alvarod.1893]

''his time in the spotlight is as short as tyler1'' completely outta pocket bro 🤣

[@winrar9979]

i miss the old greek :(