The Board Room | skate.

[@mattranor]

I hope this game isn't going to be online only. I loved the single player of skate 3 and once this game falls off in the far future, and they inevitably have to stop supporting it online, I hope to be able to come back to the game and still play it in some form. That's my greatest concern for modern games. If they don't have a good offline mode, the game is going to die out eventually and then nobody will be able to play it in the future. Other than that concern, I am very hyped for this game and I can't wait to play it when it comes out.

[@GDUBMX]

It's 100% going to be online only, no singleplayer stuff. All based around servers and playing with other people

[@USNDTHEMYT]

@@GDUBMX kinda scary then

[@mattranor]

@@GDUBMX when did they say that?

[@jiminywinkle8745]

You can already launch into singleplayer

[@nomo4u886]

Foreals they better not mess up

[@Steviefaith]

We need a campaign !! Don’t just make it free to play 😭 that was the whole fun of the skate series. Custom characters creating our own story was a big thing for the game. Re visit that idea of free to play please

[@bruhmomentum6315]

yeah because spending money makes the series automatically fun

[@christianvasquez3937]

@@bruhmomentum6315 sounds like something a broke person would say

[@cryptokingnftlover1109]

@@bruhmomentum6315 free to play means probably no story and all of the cosmetics locked behind a pay wall. That was the fun of the last 3 games

[@Jail19]

@@bruhmomentum6315 EA making a free to play game means being able to do a lot but missing a lot because you need to pay extra for it, Like Apex. Skate 3 however, only had some DLC's, like clothing, and a couple maps, this is going to be ONLY multiplayer, NO offline, and there is 100% going to be a battle pass. They could have just stayed with the skae 3 engine and built up from there, they decided to make their game as money hungry as possible, for no reason, like at all

[@BIGRED47]

Skate 3 didnt really have a story tho you sold boards intil you unlocked more missions to sell more boards.

[@unearth87]

This makes me really nervous. My best memories of skate 1-3 was playing single player and just casually creating lines. I'm excited that "Skate." is a thing but free to play and microtransactions just took a massive wind out of my sails. Really hoping you guys do this right and allow people to either play offline or in their own personal world without other people acting like idiots everywhere.

[@ES1EBANGK]

100% agree online can be really annoying and filled with trolls that are super annoying. Playing single player is the best to feel free and create anything you want.

[@matthewrehfeldt7937]

have some faith

[@PursuitSk8]

Honestly as long as the micro transactions don't lock tricks away I'm cool with it. If they're gonna be charging money for decks and clothes though they better have some sick stuff, I wanna skate the same board I skate irl in skate 4 if they're charging

[@34nimajneb]

Gta has invite only and friend servers. I’m sure it’s probably something that will be included. I story/career will be missed though.

[@BeatsWithKev]

@@matthewrehfeldt7937 This. I can understand some of the community's trepidation, but I'm also happy that we're getting some form of 4th iteration of the series, on PC too. The other three games are there and will always be there to pick up to some degree, so if there something in the new game fans don't fuck with, I won't knock them, but as long as F2P doesn't mess with me skating on the same rail for an hour like I do in SkaterXL, then I'm not worried inm the slightest.

[@spicynips8466]

The worst thing, is that if this flops, EA will just act like nobody wants skate games anymore, instead of admitting that the F2P model and MTX are the reason for the flop.

[@Turnt_Tony]

Yeah I’m perfectly fine with paying 45 bucks for it

[@POOKISTAN]

... Just like how they killed Titanfall by some moron at EA making the release directly next to Battlefield...

[@theuchihakidd]

I'd do the same thing they give y'all something just for y'all to cry and complain about it y'all are ungrateful just admit to it

[@aaronisbigg]

Id pay 70 dollars for it tbh

[@IWantaMinecraftCape]

I doubt it, Just read the comments they've put in the video, they're listening. I don't doubt in 2-3 years you will be able to hop into "Skate." and be able to ride a scooter, BMX, or even rollerblades if we asked for it....

[@jaimewastaken]

If we're all being honest, 95% of us want an offline free roam mode, and a rather large percent of us want a story mode like skate 3, we miss Coach Frank.

[@onezeee]

we need all this + MMO. having exclusively singleplayer stuff + freedom to play with friends would still be good, but exclusive MMO would be terrible.

[@jaredtweed7826]

This is an extremely important comment. Offline + story are a must

[@jamiedavinci1328]

Wasn't the 'story' in Skate 3 bare bones as heck

[@huglojsk]

@@jamiedavinci1328 Yep. Skate 2 had a pretty nice, engaging single player campaign though.

[@moseallison4228]

I agree

[@markmills4980]

I think everyone trusts Full Circle, but nobody trusts EA. Free to Play is kinda scary.

[@Nothinglastsforever]

Why would anyone trust an unproven studio being managed so poorly because of WFH policies that upper ea management decided to push the game to F2P and port it (or worse target it) to mobile?

[@stereorealist9531]

@@Nothinglastsforever It's more likely that the only thing that got EA to approve their pitch was that it could potentially be a free to play cash cow like fortnite. Remember EA sat on the Skate IP for an entire decade doing absolutely nothing with it, most likely passing on various proposed entries in the series during that time.

[@roderickmoore2003]

Facts it's scary😨

[@tbrophy329]

@@Nothinglastsforever being an “unproven” studio means nothing when several of the people in charge of the project at Full Circle are veterans who have worked on every skate game.

[@theuchihakidd]

@@Nothinglastsforever I mean yeah but you don't have to buy the skins in Fortnite it just makes you look cool that's it

[@valleybiitch]

honestly the free to play/micro transaction model thing is my worst nightmare for this game, i don't wanna have to pay real money for an in-game pair of Vans, or a board. the idea of overpriced cosmetic micro transactions especially hurts in this game cuz fashion and self expression is such a huge part of skateboarding culture that i don't want to be missing. we've been waiting like 12 years for this game, please don't mess it up...

[@subman4594]

They say their big thing is to not fuck it up but i mean they already fucked it up and all this community nonsense might as well be thrown out the window they should know that we don’t want none of that shit

[@mvterivlistic]

@@subman4594 lmaoo this comment honestly puts everyone’s thoughts together perfectly - why even bring up “community” and “what we want” when they know damn well we don’t want this shit

[@marcussg0813]

I hope they have an option to buy the game and Get all the cosmectiscs that way. And a free to play and microtransaction. Like then you can statisfy both groups

[@ViralWatchMedia]

hate to break it to you bud but this is EA, They have gone to the dark side and they dont care what us gamers think. This is the new era of gaming where everything is now locked behind a paywall and the "its free to play" excuse is used as a reason to sell us everything that we would have got if the game was full price. This is exactly why over 80% of the games I play now are all indie games. AAA games dont excite me at all anymore in the slightest.

[@stevencase3289]

they are going to fuck it up, name one ea game in the 5 years they haven't made into microtransaction filled pay to win mess, the only saving grace is it's skateboarding, not a looter shooter or battle royale, in order to pull their normal shit they have make it competitive alot of people aren't going to care about that, i could easily play by myself and not care about any of that, that leaves cosmetics, as long as you have free options you can earn that still look good i don't care, but it needs an offline mode or at least the ability to create local servers and the ability to mod

[@edenwellsSkate]

Been a huge fan since the og Skate and have searched for skate 4 updates consistently for the past 12 years. I was so intensely excited about the actual announcement of this game’s development in 2020. I’ve kept track of all the updates & leaks. I hate to be negative as I’ve wanted this game for so long but maaaan, what a huge disappointment about the free to play. I can’t think of any person in the community that’s wanted Skate 4 to be a multiplayer only, free to play game with micro transactions. I really hope that they listen to the community. Judging by the rest of the comments, I’m sure the majority of us skateboarders and fans of the franchise have desperately wanted the single player experience we had before. I really hope they listen to our feedback and make multiplayer an option rather than the only way to play the game

[@chase2337]

same here dude. i have a google alert about skate 4 and over the past year or so, every time something new comes up i've gotten giddy like a little kid. i've wanted this for such a long time. it's a huge gut-punch to see the rumors turn out to be true - the fucking game is free to play. what a massive disappointment.

[@olliebert2788]

Unfortunately they won't listen, it's all about money In this day and age bro

[@ShawnSnowRI11]

I couldn’t agree more . I wish they would just listen to us . I have a feeling this game is going to be a HUGE let down

[@kpatriots8]

@@olliebert2788 I agree it’s all about creating an endless experience and trying to make addicted people keep spending their money on skins and any micro transaction they can throw at them. There is nothing drawing them to spend money and resources to develop a story and build characters to people who can put the controller down. It’s obvious greed from EA.

[@AKIRAVIOLI]

I totally agree with you and I'm reassured to see that other players don't want this free to play side

[@andrescastro9237]

The whole idea of “free to play” just killed the hype for me completely. We don’t need another game full of in game purchases . Also we need a campaign. We need the good old feeling skate games. I hope they don’t change this game into something that doesn’t even feel like skate.

[@xxraptorsc0pezxx]

Exactly

[@karande75]

thats ironic because skate 3 had in game purchases and its was a paid game, i dont see why f2p is so bad

[@xxraptorsc0pezxx]

@@karande75 They were actual DLC maps not decks, trucks, shirts, hairstyles, pants, etc. Its differemt because Skate 3 in game purchases were actual content.

[@benjamingiddens6758]

well it sounds like the gameplay devs care, and it looks like the gameplay experience is getting there so I think the moment to moment experience will probably be pretty good.

[@jaemiura5526]

@@karande75 Stop simping for a megacorporation you clown

[@metalhead351_of]

I'm going to be honest, I'm scared to see this game to be a free to play game for a couple of reasons like: "will it be online only?" or "will all of the clothing be paid separately?", etc. I wish them the best and I hope they don't fuck this up.

[@todo5183]

I'm 90% sure EA will pull their typical bullshit but I hope I'm wrong

[@wizard932]

I think boards, trucks, wheels, clothes will be unlockable through play. But there could be an option to just pay for those who don’t want to grind. I predict a campaign and then a online kind of like GTA 5 online but for skating.

[@ed-kl7pv]

@@wizard932 I hope its like that

[@roguecraftstar9251]

Something that worry’s me is how free to play games are designed to be as addictive as possible. They’ll release seasons with cosmetic that will can only be obtained during that season so you feel like you have to keep playing to unlock them or you miss out instead of playing a game whenever you want. The game doesn’t even need to be free to play. Ubisofts Riders Republic does this and I think sea of thieves also and they are both fully paid games.

[@christiansantamaria7233]

@@wizard932 yeah but its gonna be like gta story mode where they have some cool things but all the crazy cooler stuff will be locked for only online players which will suck cause i like playing skate solo idc about online

[@FRESHKIDD23BRO]

I didn’t wait 12 years just to play skate in the Metaverse. Don’t really care that much about playing with others, sometimes it’s cool as an option but for the whole game to be based on an multiplayer experience is wack. An offline story mode with free roam has always been amazing when it comes to these Skate games. Wouldn’t mind if they just remastered the first ones.

[@zooted5443]

I suggest you continue playing the other titles if this is your view. This isn't 2010 anymore, majority of games are multiplayer.

[@mackandzie]

@@zooted5443 but that isn't what everyone inherently wants. just because it's the dominant format for games nowadays doesn't mean that it's better or acceptable. while I fully understand why they are going this route, it's sad that they haven't said anything suggesting that there is going to be a single player experience. not to mention the fact that not everyone has access to great internet connection, so if there's no solo experience then they're missing out on a large chunk of players.

[@FRESHKIDD23BRO]

@@zooted5443 I don’t mind playing with the homies here and there, but at its roots this game was story mode eccentric with free roam. Plus as a trucker, I was hoping to play this game offline in a solo sesh when I’m out over the road and not connected to a server. Rather pay $60 for a complete experience than free to play micro transactions imo. If anything games like NBA 2K and Madden should be free to play since it’s just an updated roster every year.

[@JudaZuk_]

@@zooted5443 so because it isn't 2010 anymore all games must suck ? That's your argument? Yeah what a great success Battlefield 2042 was when they focused more on throwing way to many players in and zero quality and ignoring what their customers wanted.. now Battlefield might be dead for ever.. a and most likely so will Skate

[@Jinkypigs]

@@zooted5443 LOL. Another brainwashed stockholmed troll. And no, majority of the games are still offline. Take a look at steam and try to tell me majority of the game are multilayer? Idiocy needs to know some limit

[@8thOfWok]

WE WANT A GOOD STORY MODE! I love playing the old skate games cuz it made me feel like a skater going thru all the journey to get sponsors, turn pro, and meeting other pros and doing ads for mags and stuff. since Skate gon be free to play yall should add story mode as a dlc and i wouldnt mind but just please have a good story mode

[@POOKISTAN]

$5 to unlock the next cutscene.

[@catethps]

they already have all those kinds of missions in the prealpha build, it'll be pretty much the same as playing any other skate game

[@POOKISTAN]

@@catethps How much were you paid to say that?

[@catethps]

@@POOKISTAN ive been playing the leaked build mate

[@POOKISTAN]

@@catethps Well, your leaked build does not have the monetization in it - In fact, I'm guessing the monetization is going to ACTUALLY kick in a couple weeks or more after launch so they can get positive reviews out before they start ripping people off. Yay - They have some semblance of a single-player. At the end of the day, we all know it's going to work its way back to multiplayer and point to your wallet at some point, and the question is whether or not you even want to invest yourself 'til that inevitably happens...

[@manuelsousa8479]

We need to have cutscenes with pro skaters back. It made the experience feel so genuine and set it apart from other skate games. And pinch on grinds!!

[@USNDTHEMYT]

!!!!!!!

[@joshgonzalez4735]

My favorite one from skate 3 is the one were you meet rob dyrdek and Josh kalis cause I was still in my everything dc faze as a kid

[@davidryan3570]

10000%! haven’t seen much people talk about single player I love multiplayer but I fell in love with skate because of how cool the story mode was in the first game, they nailed it..with the intro video , getting sponsored, then the pro challenges! I remember I wanted the Nikes P-ROD was wearing but I couldn’t beat his pro challenge but eventually got better at the game then beat it and it was super rewarding! I really hope they focus on elements like this and not hone in too much on being able to do flips n stuff!

[@nicepants9533]

Yes exactly I need my favorite pros and I need to pinch crooks and suskis

[@Takenski]

I need to have rob dyrdek back in the game

[@nolancaudill831]

This being f2p will kill customization, if i have to spend $20 for a board, a shirt, and shoes without a lot of free and earned through play cosmetics its going to kill me. Its going to honestly hurt the spirit of expression that skateboarding is all about. Its a video game, not real life. But it being f2p also allows more people to get into skateboarding, like the tony hawk games and skate did when i was a kid Edit: another issue being f2p is that you can only own it digitally so if they end the game and you delete it you cant ever redownload or play it again because they’ll pull the plug. Id rather pay $60 and have a physical disc to play it, that’s how games like this should be. That goes for almost ever sports games like this or the ea has.

[@JudaZuk_]

being f2p also allows more people to ruin the experience for everyone else

[@matyassolymar8597]

Now it’s really gonna show if the whole “community feedback” thing was just a gimmick or not. I think the people who are here from day one (I mean skate 1 by that) would much prefer to pay for a full price game compared to a sketchy FTP system.

[@bartushtheboy6372]

Exactly they are completely missing the target demo by doing this. All the people who will actually play the game will actually pay for it.

[@nateanderson271]

Agreed.

[@mattifresh]

Yes

[@Meatzonee]

Exactly, they are all just talk. They hate their community, no one ever asked for this to be free to play

[@MrMcSwiftface]

@@matthewsoldano fair point, I feel bad for these people as they’re having to justify trade offs like they’re intentional benefits

[@kamalkouja4729]

One of my favorite aspects about the older Skate games was taking time to do challenges to unlock clothing. It was always a rewarding experience. Making this game F2P is gonna ruin any sort of aspect of that. You say you're gonna listen to your fans but the game hasn't even come out yet and 90% of the community is disappointed. I'll happily pay $60 for a full game instead of a demo.

[@catethps]

you can still do challenges to unlock stuff, you earn in-game currency for playing the game normally and beating challenges which you can use for clothes/objects

[@_Bran]

7:44 No paid loot boxes. May be an item shop or battlepass type system which does suck but It's EA at the end of the day you can't expect them not to do that

[@radiatedman]

the creative director made it pretty clear that this game has nothing to do with previous skate games. and basically every game coming out from now on is going to be a live service game. if you like the content from the old skate games then go play it. this is the new standard model of video games.

[@fazejohncenachristogamerfaze]

@@radiatedman Yeah. Not what I wanted for the next skate game still.

[@anifak1105]

They need more consistent flow of money than just for the copy of the game. I think that the decision to make the game free to play is the best for a longevity of the game.

[@colinhawks2469]

I hate saying this but the info shared in this along with what was left unmentioned has left a huge dent on my excitement for this game. F2P model is extremely worrying. Micro transactions are very concerning considering EA is behind this. Idk. Cautiously optimistic but no longer fully convinced this won’t turn out disappointing to some extent. Really hope there’s still some kind of single player experience with a fleshed out campaign. Hope for the best guys…hoping for best guys

[@ezioassassain]

this is EA haha this game has corporate all over it, the complete opposite from original skate team

[@gorkapascual5897]

Facts

[@WatdaFrag]

Man, it's only skins.

[@rogue8146]

@@ezioassassain definitely sad that its modern ea, buuuuut their response to the leaked build wasnt nearly as panicked and frantic as youd expect ea to be

[@randymarsh46]

This isn’t madden or fifa or a pay to win game made by EA, the only things that will cost money are cosmetics like decks and skins.They’re planning on making this the last skate game but keeping it going and updated, kinda like Minecraft. In order to do that they have to make money off it. I’m perfectly fine with paying for non game altering cosmetics because it will help keep the game running. This isn’t ultimate team where you have to pay money to be good, it’s skate. Your gonna have the same experience as everyone else whether you spend money or not. And it’s not made by the same scumbags that make the sports games it’s made by people who actually care about the skate community.

[@kylekinner6095]

Skate if you really want to listen to the community please don’t do micro transactions. It was so fun in skate 3 to do challenges and sell boards to be able to buy stuff. I honestly think most of the players would rather just drop 60$ to have the entire game instead of free to play and stuff hidden behind a paywall. But besides that I’m really looking forward to a new skate. Technology has gone so far in the past few years. I really think Skate 4 has a chance to be an absolutely epic game if they can pull it off right.

[@westheking12]

Players not spending money. Will be able to get NONE of the cool looking boards or clothing brands. Yall will see in time.

[@RNGenius381]

Exactly. I was so hyped when I saw the video about how they listened to their fans and now this?! F2P, Microtransactions & a mobile version? Literally stuff no one asked for. Just give us singleplayer/offline mode, a new map and call it a day.

[@Budisgud69]

Too late for that pal

[@colinhawks2469]

I’d be willing to bet this decision is more so thanks to EA rather than them directly. Maybe I’m wrong, but I could definitely see this as part of the deal to get this green lit in the first place.

[@peekayhaha]

but remember: skate 3 did have an "unlock everything" microtransaction, so there might be a chance it could return in this game

[@holykoifish]

I dont care if it adds years to the game, but there absolutely needs to be singleplayer. if you want people playing for years to come like you said, single player is a necessity!

[@maddox54]

Yo don’t know if you seen it but the pre alpha was leaked I recommend watching a video of it or download it for yourself. There is single player and I’m pretty sure there is going to be a story. There’s a thing called skate view it allows you to see challenges all around the map so more then likely a story mode will be included. It may not be ethical but it put my pessimistic mind to rest about the game

[@haymaker113]

@@maddox54 The leaked version is from sept 2021. It took so long to leak because there was a singleplayer patch made for it by fans. The game is not supposed to launch when disconnected, and skateview shows online objectives and locations

[@Kpazz]

@@haymaker113 yup. With "Colab zones" that force you to deal with idiots trolling and making it difficult to complete the challenges.

[@SkateMyVids]

@@maddox54 The Challenge thing could be a community thing. Like : "Do a backflip over 3 of your friends" or whatever.

[@JudaZuk_]

and it absolutely should not be F2P

[@TheTjark57]

You just killed the hype by making this game free to play and mobile. I am a fan since Skate 1, was hoping for a solid game experience and we already know, with EA decision this will become skate 2042. Super done with any EA related developments after this announcement...feel sad for the devs and fans.

[@juggarchivee]

Stop crying

[@deepr6161]

@@juggarchivee mfer liked his own comment xD shut up

[@king-peticca]

The game isn't out yet so we really can't say anything it could be better than skate 3 or be horrible we dont know anything so maybe lets just wait till we get our hands on the game to either praise it or hate it

[@TheTjark57]

@@king-peticca We know EA.

[@theuchihakidd]

@@king-peticca it needs to be better than skate 3 what else is there to do in that game

[@georgerockwell6124]

Everyone went from extremely excited to downright horrified of the live service part of this game so quickly, EA's gonna kill this

[@JudaZuk_]

seems the studio wants to kill the Skate franchise ..they seem very determined to do that .... We heard you , you want Skate 4 .. you begged us for Skate 4.. ... we are listening .. we heard you .. you will not get Skate 4... you will get some F2P trash instead because EA hate you .. and so do we .. .,we listen to you , we hear you .. we just do not care about you ..

[@RawrStickers]

Yep

[@rellultra3607]

@@JudaZuk_ Bro stop crying because you’re gonna play it 🤣

[@JudaZuk_]

@@rellultra3607 - Can't stop something I have not started, and what ever made you think I'm your brother? Have your own family distanced themselves from you so bad, you now are making up brothers you don't have? . after all you are simping for EA so I would understand if your family disowned you ..

[@rellultra3607]

@@JudaZuk_ Bro tf you on about. You’re the one complaining about a game that’s in pre pre alpha

[@bagpipesnbread]

we NEED a story mode for this game. makes me nervous they only mentioned multiplayer.

[@manuelsousa8479]

For real, meeting all the pros and the cutscenes were real af, we NEED story in this game

[@ed-uh9sh]

well the fact that the game will be free to play is not a good sign for a story mode.

[@MrMarcJackson]

No "we" don't "NEED" anything.

[@hb2434]

@@MrMarcJackson a huge amount of my enjoyment of skate 3 came from completing the story mode challenges

[@USNDTHEMYT]

@@hb2434 same bro

[@andresmartinez7055]

I really wish they specified if there’s going to be a solo mode. There’s times where multiplayer becomes overwhelming. I just wanna chill within the city solo like in skate 1

[@早]

Yes there is, look at the leaked build, you can already play a private or online session of Fun city.

[@-dmm]

yea it's called a private session... Not sure why it's such an issue when the game is always online... Imagine going to the store always having to turn on the lights and turn off when you leave. You're always connected on your phone. And it's skateboarding. You go to a skate park there's people. WHy you so damn scared lmao. Dont play it then

[@1venusflytrap]

@@-dmm some ppl just dnt wanna deal w other ppl man... i get it

[@-dmm]

@@1venusflytrap then host a private session. fucking weird ass.

[@Sam-tt5jv]

@@-dmm not everyone has internet. So what are they supposed to do?

[@scaers4398]

Making it fully multiplayer will drop retention rates as people will get sick of playing online 24/7 and if there are no objectives they will stop playing even faster. They take inspiration from apex and fortnite but if they were to look at series based games that have adopted this style (fallout 76) they would see how bad of an idea it is. I also hope that cosmetic enhancements (clothing and decks) continue to be able to be unlocked without microtransactions, people would much rather pay a one time fee vs. having to pay sporadically over time. Having a limited clothing/gear selection for non-paying players sounds very lame.

[@Juuke]

If it's somewhere close to fortnite , apex legends, and valorant... There won't be sporadic microtransactions. I can see them implementing a monthly to every second month battlepass. So you grind the battlepass tiers and unlock cosmetics etc, each battlepass might bring new challenges and content that free tier players can still take part in, but they just wont be unlocking paid battlepass cosmetics with the XP they earn.

[@catethps]

there's already tonnes of objectives..... go play the leaked build

[@scaers4398]

@@catethps when I say objectives I mean like own the spot, photo, hall of meat, etc. are these present in the current build? From what I’ve seen it looks like there might just be daily challenges, I don’t have the beta so I’m not for sure.

[@catethps]

@@scaers4398 there's photo and own the spot challenges as well as the new guesser challenges

[@wizard932]

I think there will still be a campaign mode. And probly a bunch of new activities for online. No way online will just be owning spot with friends lol

[@datractor]

Only here for story mode, thats how I learned everything in skate. Would be a huge mistake not to include one.

[@darienbruh9675]

Please Skate, listen to your community more and don’t make this game f2p. What made the first 3 Skate games great was the story mode and the feeling of actually earning your gear. It added authenticity to the game. Going f2p getting rid of story mode really kills what made these games good.

[@Norrin277]

Exactly. I’m all for community, but sometimes you just wanna have some peace and quiet and skate on your own with no distractions, and just chill.. and you know there are gonna be trolls who don’t care about anything but making people mad…….. I’m not expecting anything from this game…….. cause it’s EA, they’ve killed so many beloved franchises because THEY WANT MONEY! I get they have to make money, but that won’t happen if they do this….. it’s gonna just die if they do this

[@pizza70123]

Who said anything about no story mode? Y'all are making things up in your minds to be angry about.

[@naoyoutuber]

Shut up

[@jesseomollo9405]

@@pizza70123 yeah i just hear these guys and just laugh...there is nothing wrong with going free to play. Especially since this game be looking more like a community game. Though I think they should have a offline mode, just for those who are complaining to play on their own if they want.

[@RAZREZ]

it's not up to them, it's EA and they are gonna milk every penny out of old fans and new comers

[@odinforde322]

At 4:31 they say, "We're going to listen to what you guys say over the course of time and put the features that you guys want into it." Reading the comments, I hope it's the case.

[@Andysk8s]

Personally I think if this game doesn’t have a story or an option to play offline it will done within a year. I think there is a good starting ground with what is being told but that’s it. Without story you get another skate “simulator” and while those have their “groups” that’s all you’ll get I don’t think the game will see growth. There’s only so many things you can “add” for years to come. There also needs to be private lobbies with friends only. Being forced to only open world lobbies is a disaster and will frustrate people.

[@mysticfellow9843]

I'm sure many of us feel the same sentiment about the joy that comes with single player in the Skate games. To me, it was always a relaxing and endlessly innovative experience. Now, I worry Skate 4 will be full of trolls, glitches, server crashes and other annoying shit. Sure, you could always play the past Skate games but it's still disappointing if there isn't a way to play offline for Skate 4. Edit: okay. I get it. skate. Skate 4. Whatever

[@nadaesfacil]

It's not called skate 4. It's called skate. And there's a big reason bc they're going to FCK this game up for money aka micro transactions

[@ChippieBoi69]

skate. they made a point its not skate 4

[@stevencase3289]

theres hope in a modding community cracking it to play offline, creating local servers once someone figures out modding tools itll be wide open to community fixes, sad it'll have tocome to that but what else can be done

[@randymarsh46]

You gonna be able to play solo player bro it’s okay

[@sudev29]

You're already disappointed? Bruh the game isn't even out yet.

[@SAVANTI711]

OK i'm gonna say this as clear as ever to you @Full Circle. When it comes to Microtransactions it's not at all pay to win that people hate, It's cosmetics, It's the entire damn model. Coming up with a system of Microtransactions for a Skate game is down right disgusting as the entire basis of the game for the individual player is centered all around Customisation, Boards, Trucks, Wheels, Attire it is all part of the culture as well as of course also a damn good gameplay and control system. This is wrong, "shame on you".

[@karande75]

so you'd rather it be pay to win than pay a few dollars for a skateboard?? are you ok?

[@andresgar_]

@@karande75 learn how to read, studhauser is saying that the pay to win model is not the only thing we hate, we also hate having to pay real money for something you could unlock yourself if it was not a free to play game

[@karande75]

@@andresgar_ "it's not at all pay to win that people hate, It's cosmetics" sounds to me that he doesnt mind p2w

[@jamiethrashawk3354]

@@karande75 you’re missing the entire point…. The man is right. We’re tired of the micro transaction model

[@karande75]

@@jamiethrashawk3354 yeah i agree, but personally i don’t mind micro transactions aren’t awful if it’s just for cosmetics. i don’t know why everyone is throwing a tantrum because they might have to pay for certain clothes

[@leonwilson8365]

1. We need a single player campaign or mode. Not everyone wants to play in a laggy world with randoms 2. We need to be able to BUY the game upfront with an items pass or something. Skate 3 was perfect in the sense that you can earn all the cosmetics. I don’t want to have to spend money on every item of clothing, I need the freedom to change lol 3. I’m now more worried than ever that this is going to be another modern EA mess… if we could birth skate 4 from comments, surely we can change it to not be free to play right?

[@noaharkadedelgado]

It seems like the game will let you earn a cosmetic or purchase it. Sort of like gta online

[@leonwilson8365]

@@noaharkadedelgado I just hope they don’t model it off fortnite or something, it would really suck not being able to have heaps of options for customisation that you don’t have to pay real money for

[@pvrrp666]

this is my exact hopes. i’m not sure if i’m gonna play if there’s no story. i know it sounds petty and or stupid. but that’s the magic behind all those skate games.

[@BRINK2011THEGAME]

The only thing we can do is wait for the real Skate 4 game…… in 12 years …….

[@leonwilson8365]

@@pvrrp666 you’re 100% right. I really hope they don’t ignore it to make a dumb MMO with way to many micro transactions

[@guyredfield]

SKATE, IF YOU WANT FANS TO BE HAPPY YOU MUST DO THESE 2 THINGS: 1. do NOT make the game F2P 2. Have an offline/single player mode Other than that, the game looks great so far

[@cody8714]

nothing wrong with f2p if its only extra cosmetics

[@thatcarlosguy3820]

@@cody8714 Define "extra cosmetics" though... It is free to play, so you will get the absolute BARE MINIMUM in customization and everything will be locked behind paywalls. A large part of all 3 previous skate games was character and board customisation. You take that away you don't have a complete skate game. Free to play ruins games for people that can afford retail prices for a full game. It has done for almost every game out there.

[@cody8714]

@@thatcarlosguy3820 extra cosmetics as in just the normal amount of cosmetics you would usually get in a skate game and then extras that u can buy.

[@kermitlynotfound1129]

@@cody8714 buying a full priced game and getting what you paid for works, take the first 3 games for example, its just a scummy practice.

[@cody8714]

@@kermitlynotfound1129 yes, the full game and getting the full game as if u paid for it for with the cos metics. and even more that u wouldnt have gotten as paid dlc

[@jeepguy518]

you hate to see it,EA never disappoints to disappoint.

[@hybrdafloats367]

like wtf is this 15:19 ?? LOL

[@Fabiochanez]

did you not like skate 3

[@envor_]

@@hybrdafloats367 tests

[@vocilmw3642]

EA made skate 3

[@kuhndj67]

Free to play live service = a game they spent more time building monetization code than game code... so yea... it's going to disappoint...

[@yazmuraben8462]

The announcement of the freetoplay/ micro transaction model is somewhat worrying. Skate 3 was so amazing because you could unlock all of the cosmetics through gameplay alone. Personally, I’d much rather pay upfront for the game instead of getting a compromised game that has to withhold content to make its money. I do appreciate that it makes it more accessible though, so I reckon a model similar PUBG’s could be good, where the base game is free to play but by purchasing the premium whatever (20aud in pubg) you can unlock all (or most) cosmetics through gameplay without having to pay for every last shoe or article of clothing, which also takes away some of the feeling of progression. So far you guys have been very open and seemingly pro-consumer, so I hope you can keep that up. Basically, a lump sum transaction allowing unlimited access to the content would allow for items to be unlocked enhancing the feeling of progression and would help prevent the feeling of playing a limited version of the game.

[@odencore]

Agreed ^

[@terryglover6442]

I'm still disappointed but full circle hopefully won't over price simple clothing and boards and trucks.

[@yazmuraben8462]

@@terryglover6442 I hope there’s sum affordable lump sum option to avoid the micro transaction bullshit that seems to find its way into every video game nowadays. I absolutely love the skate franchise and I’m happy to support them by paying a lump sum for the game or something comparable, but I do not like the idea of micro transactions in a Skate game.

[@ProdBonyo]

That’s exactly what i was thinking

[@terryglover6442]

@@yazmuraben8462 no lootboxs is good, and if the season pass is reasonable I won't be that upset because I know F2P has to make money somehow

[@steelers15311]

You guys just completely killed all the hyped you built up congrats

[@godvillainAUS]

And they are so happy and proud 😅

[@garfari]

Free to Play live service? IM OUT! As always EA never disappoints to disappoint.

[@burtscho]

Same

[@tasheemthedream4199]

imagine not playing the game even if it's a great game just because of some paid cosmetics

[@alexnovoaluna4895]

its not that, since its going to be free there will most likely be no story/single player mode. Personally grinding to earn new decks and clothing is a crucial part of skate to me.

[@ViazardCaptain]

@@tasheemthedream4199 imagine thinking its only going to be "cosmetic", this is EA, remember Anthem, Battlefield, Battlefront 2. They'd lie about the sun coming up tomorrow if it made them a buck

[@DragonsouLx5356]

@@ViazardCaptain what else will there be besides “cosmetics” they literally sed it will not be pay to win

[@ryanrussell9123]

Saw the free to play and microtransactions coming a mile away just hoped it wouldn't be the case EA never seizes to disappoint....

[@Megalaglag]

They just killed the communities hype.

[@blissband3601]

@@Megalaglag destroyed my hype and ruined my day

[@karande75]

they literally said there will be no paywalls and p2w. i dont really see the downside

[@Budisgud69]

@@karande75 🤣🤣🤣

[@karande75]

@@Budisgud69 i’m guessing you didn’t watch the video

[@beachboytyler7574]

Hope you guys are seeing all of this comment section. FOCUS ON SINGLE PLAYER TOO WITH REAL PROS. Make it authentic!

[@germandreams139]

Noo ea just make MOOOONNNNEEEEEYYYYYYY

[@mvterivlistic]

They don’t give a fuck. they’ve been knowing exactly what we want for years. it’s just like battlefield 2042 - they’re gonna do whatever the hell they want to do

[@WH250398]

It better have solid singleplayer too

[@vaporwavehuman]

Man I just care about cosmetics and the music

[@isak8059]

@Ryan exactly.

[@bloozecloozee]

@Ryan yup

[@BrutalCelt]

@Ryan Truth

[@WretchedWes]

it won't

[@4532xbox]

We Want A Story. We want a beginning and we want a end. We don’t want micro transactions. We want a full game.

[@astafromhage1541]

Why don’t you make a skate game since you wanna be ungrateful at least it’s finally here

[@4532xbox]

@@astafromhage1541 I have been backing session from the start. thats my contribution

[@4532xbox]

@@astafromhage1541 they only made skate 4 because of session and xl. money talks hence why they will screw us with micro transactions instead of bringing us a complete game

[@astafromhage1541]

@@4532xbox like I said why don’t you make your own skate game since you wanna be ungrateful

[@peytonleehagens123]

@@astafromhage1541 why would I be grateful for something I don’t want anymore? The game looked okay but why can’t you accept the fact the most people don’t care for the micro transaction bs with no storyline.

[@FelonyFunk]

This game isn’t free to play for our benefit, it’s not for longevity, it’s for EA to squeeze every last dollar they can out of us.

[@wes41182]

We wanted EA another skate game so bad i feel like we forgot how EA operates nowadays

[@Novacaine1984]

Longevity is very important for being able to make even more money. So it's definitely about longevity

[@tambourland]

Why would I rather pay $60 than play it for free

[@gorkapascual5897]

@@tambourland with 60$ the game has to be good. Being free allows them to do whatever they want casue its free so nobody can reclaim anything. Enjoy your free game, sir

[@zooted5443]

You literally have the choice to not spend a dime on the game if you don't want to. So much crying and bitching from everyone about micro-transactions even though 80% of games these days have micro-transactions, DLC and pay to win systems. Calm down, it's going to be okay.

[@MountainDan]

I don’t know what’s worse… finally having the rug pulled on this game - free to play, focus on mobile, and no story mode… or seeing all these people defend a 30 BILLION dollar company after making these greedy, money-driven decisions.

[@chase2337]

people love to simp for megacorporations lol. this game should absolutely not be live service, they're vastly overestimating how much "fun" it is to play a game like this online. sure, online freeskate can be fun for a while. but solo skating is what has kept this franchise alive for a decade. can't wait to film a nice line and have the footage be filled with a bunch of people backflipping and climbing walls and shit like that. here's hoping that the modding community can cut off the online portion of the game on PC at least. i'll try the game but i'm not nearly as optimistic as i was a week ago.

[@nomo4u886]

Facts my guy

[@Gameboy-Unboxings]

THANK YOU. I've waited 12 fucking years. I've played since 2007. And now my hopes are shattered just like that. Should have known it was too good to be true. F this decision. I'm not even planning on playing it now.

[@jon.meister]

this is exactly how im feeling. how can anyone defend this, are they just coping because they want the game to be good or are they actually this brainwashed, NO ONE in their right mind should see this as a good thing, it's only good for literal children that don't have money to buy a whole game

[@brittanyisaketten]

ALL OF THEM

[@stanleysmooth]

Well, this is it. Basically my worst case scenario for what this game could have been. Oh well, back to Skate 2 and 3 I guess

[@FuckOnYouTube]

literally

[@maddox54]

Yo don’t know if you seen it but the pre alpha was leaked I recommend watching a video of it or download it for yourself. There is single player and I’m pretty sure there is going to be a story. There’s a thing called skate view it allows you to see challenges all around the map so more then likely a story mode will be included. It may not be ethical but it put my pessimistic mind to rest about the game

[@Reds-Retros]

Yep. Should have been an easy win for EA but of course they had to EA it up and of course it's going to be our fault when the game inevitably fails. I don't know how I didn't see this coming... skate going the live service route that so many of my other favorite single player franchises and developers went but I'm not even surprised anymore... Just tired, sad and disappointed. Back to the skate trilogy for my fix for the foreseeable future again I guess... Sigh.

[@shutupstephanie2847]

Their might be a single player side to the game! I mean that would make a lot of sense! Let’s say you are trying to complete those missions and see your favorite skate boarders in the story mode with your created character and stuff! That would be sick & then when you’re like let’s play online with randoms etc it will make it a welcome experience for everyone.

[@shutupstephanie2847]

But I fully understand how most people “DITCH” the single player part and automatically load up online. I mean we know multiple games where people don’t even care about the single player, but they have to understand that this is “Skate.” The single player mode was very fun with its challenges. This is not Call of Duty.

[@1992AJL]

The period after Skate. is actually the nail in the coffin

[@BuiltbyFellony]

Imagine if, for once, a triple A developer said "fuck no. Here's a finished game, on the disc. With a single player and OPTIONAL multiplayer. You can earn all the content, features and cosmetics by PLAYING THE GAME" it's sad to think this sounds like an outlandish pipedream these days. (There are exceptions, obviously. Looking at you FromSoft)

[@ryanrussell9123]

It's 2022 lmao that's not gonna happen

[@lizhenwood5700]

^^ This.100%

[@BuiltbyFellony]

@@ryanrussell9123 exactly. Bygone era. Not a single (triple A) dev will ever do this.

[@BuiltbyFellony]

In some ways we're returning to the days of arcade games. Stuffing endless change into games that are artificially inflated shallow experiences so they seem like "better value". but because the game is free, inevitably it's gonna be a half finished glitchy piece of shit requiring a day one patch. Hence all this talk of "we're gonna be constantly updating and adding features/tweaking" which is, as always, code for "good luck getting this to run the day it comes out, fuckers!"

[@BuiltbyFellony]

And to everyone who disagrees. Watch this space when it comes out 😂

[@merk2364]

What we've seen so far looks really good but if there isn't any sort of offline mode that would be extremely disappointing.

[@bonkiozz]

there will be an offline mode, why r y’all tripping? they will have a free roam mode lol, just wait 😭

[@bonkiozz]

@water yea it’s also offline play we are talking ab, they most likely will have a story mode, and if not then it’s whatever , they def will have a mode were you can solo ride

[@matthewrehfeldt7937]

have some faith

[@早]

@water It's literally in the leaked build. Go look, the feature to play a private Fun City lobby has been in the game since September last year.

[@maddox54]

Yo don’t know if you seen it but the pre alpha was leaked I recommend watching a video of it or download it for yourself. There is single player and I’m pretty sure there is going to be a story. There’s a thing called skate view it allows you to see challenges all around the map so more then likely a story mode will be included. It may not be ethical but it put my pessimistic mind to rest about the game

[@fluuidd]

To be honest I'm very concerned about the state of the game, it looks good through the play testing done , however there is no mention of a single player mode and the f2p aspect makes me think there is less of a chance of a single player mode coming in this title , unfortunately I was let down went a learned that they haven't been working on the game for way longer and making it a "passion project" I am glad nothing will be locked behind a paywall in gameplay sense , but I feel placing most cosmetic items behind a paywall will ruin the original progression system that the last three games brought, they brought such a compelling reason to grind challenges , keeping cosmetics behind a paywall ruins this idea and gives players less to do especially if there is no single player mode, I really hope you live up to the promise of getting feedback from the fans because that promise has been destroyed will the empire state building 10 times over so far, absolutely everything said apart from the group building areas has been completely turning away from the fans and unfortunately is looking like another one of EAs mediocre cash grab and go titles that last for 2 years , the entire skate 1-3 community is very disappointed in what has been released so far , the only person that seems to care about the fans in the creative director on the far left because when the interviewer asks about anything that the fans actually want, the other two EA members answer the questions for him. I feel like he wants to create an amazing game , but EA is holding them back , if you do actually want to listen to the fans , you better make a good game because this the skate community we are talking about, and I'm sure this comment section speaks for the entire community , if this game is a f2p cash grab just like all of the other EA projects , this game will die and have less players than the last three games in less than two years, please listen to the people that are telling you how to make the best game you can ! There's a reason the game isn't called "Skate 4" because from what it seems , this looks nothing like what we want that was included in skate 1-3

[@iEscapeRealityGameplay]

They had no choice to make a new skate game. It was all up to EA. Even the devs said it was the fans that caused EA to ask for a pitch from the devs.

[@fluuidd]

@@iEscapeRealityGameplay that would make sense until you realize from what we have gotten , they think either way they do it the skate community will be pleased with it , EA as a company thinks everyone else is gullible including the studios working on the game , I wouldn’t be surprised if the new company shuts down if this is a big let down

[@fluuidd]

@@iEscapeRealityGameplay the fact they were forced to make a new skate game by ea means not as much love will be put in as the last three , back then games didint take long to make , now they can take years to even develop , let alone market , the fact they have only been doing this for sub 2 years , plus all of the new fads like free to play being implemented, makes me think EA is going to do the same thing they always do when it comes to bringing back franchises, turning them into a cash grab , I couldn’t see why this would be any different right now

[@Duby-rv7bx]

@@fluuidd skate 3 didn’t have that much love put into it either yet people still love it to death

[@SethKasso]

@@Duby-rv7bx They didn't love it at first. It was sorta DOA from a commercial standpoint as - aside from the park builder and darkslides - everything about the game felt worse than in Skate 2. It took massive KZbinrs doing videos on its absurd bugs to get it to achieve legit mainstream popularity.

[@dr4876]

I think the last thing any Skate fan wanted was a free-to-play skating MMO with microtransactions.

[@theuchihakidd]

When was skate considered an MMO

[@nomo4u886]

Please let there be story mode!! And not just online only. This game is important to us fans

[@sultanmahfries6402]

yes please!

[@mattifresh]

Yeeeessss

[@bvdatech1]

story mode is 99.99 per missions, sorry teehee

[@nomo4u886]

@@bvdatech1 EA will mess this up

[@mausantillan]

I loved this franchise with all my heart, shit…. I still play Skate 3 to my last days but really this is just heartbreaking to me, no pros, no single player, no nothing. The worst thing is that the game is going to be successful because of ignorant casual players and I understand that at the end of the day everything is just business, but you forgot about the real fans, the ones that commented this fucking game to life, the ones that we are still playing after 12 years. Let’s see how this ends. :(

[@PastaRoshie]

If This isn’t the goddamn truth We are all sad man I feel you brother

[@babyblue7731]

There is already a single player mode in the pre pre pre alpha. And I’m sure there will be pros. It’s still in extremely early development. Though I do understand your concern, because EA has changed quite a lot in the last decade.

[@tomsawyer2699]

You call yourselfs "real fans" (cringe) but are crying before you even see anything in place. I guess we are ignoring all the good f2p games like apex that just give free content all the time.

[@babyblue7731]

@@tomsawyer2699 who are you talking to? Me?

[@JudaZuk_]

@@tomsawyer2699 Apex is shit that only exist to sell microtransactions crap to you .. i refuse to touch f2p anymore. .they all are trash ..

[@raymondcontreras9745]

I have absolutely no faith in the F2P Microtransactions model for Skate. I trust the team to try and make a solid Skate game for the core fans but don’t trust EA to choose what’s best for players over what’s best for their business model. No mention of a legit story mode is a pretty big red flag too

[@-dmm]

I hope you dont play Apex, fort, rocket league or warzone if you have takes like this.

[@youreyeahyuh3437]

@@-dmm i dont i like good games

[@-dmm]

@@youreyeahyuh3437 doesn't have to be good to be fun. It's f2p at the end of the day. you didnt risk anything other than a couple of GBs on your preferred console and play the game and leave and uninstall. You're taking this way too far. And you can't even have a normal convo and come up with this "low blow" joke lmao

[@stevetriple8]

@@-dmm I think it’s safe to assume by the comments and just logically a lot of people who play skate usually don’t play games like you mentioned. MTX makes sense in games like those because the gameplay loop while extremely repetitive is varied by the opponents you’re playing against so you never really have to add a whole bunch of content and can just churn out paid cosmetics which is fine. In a game like this though theres only so many times you can grind a hubba a certain way or hit a line the way you want and players will eventually want more content but in a live service model its always designed in such a way to add as little gameplay content as possible and sell as many cosmetics as possible which wont work for a game like this. Just look at Halo Infinite which has a severe lack of content but a plethora of cosmetics which is the opposite of what halo players are used to. The only way this model would work is if it was like destiny where you had paid add-ons or expansions but they have stated no content will be paid for so this at the moment seems unlikely. F2P live service is fine and works great in games with repetitive game loops that are dependant on opponents like battle royals or even sports games like Fifa/Madden/NBA would be perfect for a live service model but the way skate games are and at the very least the way people want them, a live service version will simply not work and will certainly have many many flaws.

[@raymondcontreras9745]

@@-dmm I actually don’t but Apex and RL do it pretty well. The thing is that in the Skate games you’ve always been able to unlock a lot of cool gear just by playing the game. What scares me is them keeping free unlocks to a minimum so you pay $10 for a bundle from your favorite brand.

[@dmor2960]

Full Circle Team: The die hard Skate fans have spoken, and clearly by the comments we are all personally offended and upset that there won’t be a story mode. You guys really need to get together and have a meeting about adding single player story mode, even if it’s one of the paid add ons. This game is seriously my childhood- I still play many hours of skate 3 a week and I’m going to be so bummed if you guys don’t have a story mode. Also- make sure you can choose your ‘style’ in skating. That was one of best things about skate 3. It made it look less robotic and also made tricks look better

[@snekboy2775]

they never said there won't be a story mode

[@teeambird2079]

Why can’t they just have a story mode version for $30 or something using the same engine and everything. They’re so worried about making money they don’t realise how many people will PAY for a decent single player it’s bonkers.

[@matt_freund]

No one said there ain’t a single player story.

[@theuchihakidd]

@@teeambird2079 30 dollars? 30 dol- NIGGA WHO FINNA SPEND 30 DOLLARS ON IRRELEVANT CONTENT NOBODY ASKED FOR 🤡

[@theuchihakidd]

Bruh the story in all of the skate games are boring nobody cares about the character in the game bruh in skate 3 it's just the same male character but everyone male character is different same with the female nobody cares about story in a skate game the storyline in all of them are ass anyway

[@JawsHLL]

Multiplayer is dope but don’t sleep on single player mode, devs

[@bootyblck]

true

[@Siegefya]

I don't think that's what they are doing.

[@FumeRaiderTV]

If there is no story mode I'll be devastated.

[@JRDN1]

@@FumeRaiderTV Highly doubt there will be a single player. Sounds like they are building an MMO

[@USNDTHEMYT]

@@JRDN1 single player mode is what honestly made skate an authentic skateboarding game, the building up, the different contest/championships, the meeting the pro’s, the filming for sponsorships… all of it. A career based skate is always a solid skate.

[@isaacpeelrocks]

They need to make a story mode

[@Custom90]

Never thought I'd see the day were I get worried because a game is free.

[@olvr-5233]

Ah man my excitement for this game is so far gone. The reason I loved skate 1,2,3 so much was the story and single player mode. I really really hope there is one in this game!

[@Oldmangamess]

Still surreal how this game is a thing after it was gone after so long. Like people who weren’t even alive when skate 3 came out will be playing this game

[@Bittamin]

That’s so sweet to think about. Was so happy to get my wife’s little brother into skate 3 and playing it with me, we’re going to have so much fun playing this game!!! Hope you all do the same

[@skaterb0i520]

I KNOW RIGHT BRO😮, SAME HERE

[@price412]

I still play skate 3 every week. I love that game. My young kids also love playing it. Granted they laugh when you crash and break bones. So hoping skate 4 has hall of meat!

[@lilbmxman6670]

The whole franchise is still worth playing too . I still jump on skate 1 simply cuz it felt more realistic. But skate 3 is an all time favorite. Definitely recommend for anyone !

[@Playamane22]

This is insane to think about

[@mistergoodfellow5847]

And there goes literally any and all hope I had of this game being a worthy successor and addition to the skate franchise, thanks guys for proving all of our worst fears right and ruining any hype you had built.

[@-CNOCK]

It’s genuinely made me sad. Literally played skate for over a decade and they pull this.

[@Hartweizengriesspudding]

what did we even expect man…

[@price7715]

@@Hartweizengriesspudding lol literally told all my homies this was how it’s gonna be and I’m not surprised they pulled an ea, all these fools crying the comments like it wasn’t obvious as fuck they were gonna do this

[@tom69pl]

🥲🥲 not really not surprising

[@gustaf9480]

Please Full Circle, listen to the community once again and don't make this a free to play game with no single player campaign! I fell in love with the first two games and I, like many others, am a bit worried about this one. Please listen to the community again. Other than that it, looks great and the new gameplay features are much appreciated! Oh, and don't forget about those intro/credit sequences!

[@binary1123]

Well this killed the hype for me, knowing EA, this is going to be a massive cash grab, RIP Skate 4

[@theuchihakidd]

rIp sKaTe 4 🤡

[@PureFilth-oj1td]

Wow, making this free to play really kills any hype or excitement for me. Gotta be a live service so every conceivable penny can be squeezed outta the fans so of course instead of focusing on what made skate good, the gameplay and board/trick mechanics, they'll sell us useless boards or clothing and such. I won't be surprised when they have a battle pass and frivolous checklists style quests like kickflip 200 times or skate 10,000 meters.

[@Noway-sg8md]

forreal. i just want a solid game and good online. cosmetics should be unlockable within the base game (no battlepass/expansion dlc bs) and difficult or time consuming, not buyable.

[@shayla7683]

Dude it being free to play gives EVERYONE an experience to play the game and enjoy it and it allows the community to be bigger! Idk if you watch faze jev but he explained it perfectly in his video yesterday

[@bingerfutt]

@@shayla7683 not a real fan than

[@dom_40]

@@bingerfutt The reason why he's watching this video withing the first few hours is because he's a fan. Don't be a douche

[@GeekedLiberty]

@@shayla7683 idk why people are so pressed about it being f2p, i love the idea so everyone can experience it, yeah there gonna be stuff to buy in the game but who cares? just play without buying shi

[@Nyxeme]

We NEED a solo/story mode. It's what made the older Skate games so awesome.

[@Yarsig]

Welp, gg, it was nice believing that we would have a good game here. Thank you, EA, for completely destroying the near decade of excitement I had for the next Skate.

[@bigjeff7230]

Not that deep.

[@mackandzie]

@@bigjeff7230 you new here or something?

[@JohnSmith-xt8zs]

@@bigjeff7230 bozo

[@bigjeff7230]

@@JohnSmith-xt8zs cry

[@JohnSmith-xt8zs]

@@bigjeff7230 cringe af irl LOL

[@connormccaff]

3600 comments and counting about how bad this is gonna be. you’re lucky youtube took away the dislike numbers, i bet it’s more than two to one vs the likes. no one wants to pay actual money for a virtual skate deck. you guys are blowing it.

[@ChilledGreese]

I can tell you that currently the like/dislike ratio is 9.8k likes vs 7.8k dislikes, though the dislike number SHOULD be 3x higher imo.

[@theuchihakidd]

Imagine being broke and can't afford shit in video games I'd be mad too 🤡

[@connormccaff]

@@theuchihakidd okay mommy’s credit card weeb

[@sadiporter2966]

the extension "return youtube dislike" exists.

[@Schpasmwastaken]

Very wary of this being a live service, while im sure Full Circle won't mess the game up, I'm more worried about EA shutting down game servers down if it doesn't make enough money for them. I can go back and play Skate 1-3 whenever i want, but with skate. being a live service, theres a very real chance I wont be able to play the game again 10 years down the line.

[@frandeleon5237]

With it being free to play especially PC there will be mods for sure to keep up entertain or an extremely long time.

[@kylerclarke2689]

Spot on. Always online, and EA will pull the plug whenever they feel like it. The EA graveyard is packed, but there's lots of space.

[@TheStormsDagger]

I want to see mod support on Xbox. It would be ABSOLUTELY awesome!!!

[@stereorealist9531]

Colossal irony in the fact that the only reason Skate's popularity endured as long as it did, thus making a new entry after so long viable, was precisely because the previous games in the franchise WEREN'T tied to some live service nonsense. I hope there's enough backlash on social media to make EA reconsider the live service aspect.

[@frandeleon5237]

@@TheStormsDagger if they bring back skate.create the possibilities are endless

[@District68]

I’m not very excited for the collabozones. There cool and all but people only focused on the colobozones because the environment they were skating in was underwhelming.(which is understandable because it’s in pre alpha) I don’t want them to think the community likes environments they build instead of the base game map. I want the map to feel ambitious and have multiple realistic areas and have the city of the game feel like a real city. There should be multiple spots like pools,rooftops. Buildings in construction,sewer systems, museums,docks, restaurants, amusement parks etc. Also the civilians and the cars in the city should function realistically too. There’s a reason why street skating is the biggest form of skateboarding and I feel the collabozones could just be a way to circumvent the problem with an underwhelming map.

[@dicky_jones1214]

I’ll be back in 44 hours

[@uhoh5381]

you blew it. Why pay $60 for a full game once with everything in it when you can spend triple the amount on "conveniences" and cosmetics over a longer period of time to get the equivalent amount of "content" I can already foresee a press release announcing a new detached single player mode due to feedback which will be $20 and half-assed Legit just make Skate 3 but better. You already have the perfect model. We want an evolution of the series, don't try to re-invent the wheel for corporate greed.

[@wizard932]

Bruh the story mode not gonna cost money ☠️

[@theuchihakidd]

@@wizard932 there is no story mode wym

[@theuchihakidd]

TAHAHAHAHA. oh man... I'm literally crying tears of laughter because of this comment how you want people to spend 100 dollars on different versions of the same game I'd rather spend my money on this I want instead of getting all the trash shit from these different "editions" like come on bruh

[@uhoh5381]

@@theuchihakidd sarcasm must be new to you

[@wizard932]

@@theuchihakidd they literally never said that

[@1992AJL]

Free to play, microtransactions... so I guess this is gonna be more of an arcade/no campaign game. I guess it's good to have the expectations lowered early

[@FlareooGD]

I hope it has a campaign because that's what makes the skate games in my opinion and if it's open world it's going to suck for me

[@1992AJL]

@@FlareooGD 100%. This is EA we are talking about and having a campaign doesn't make them any money. We'll see!

[@isak8059]

Im gonna have so many trust issues after this, fuck. full. circle.

[@1992AJL]

@@isak8059 I still think it could be a great game, the gameplay from last weeks trailer looked awesome. It's just probably not what we expected/wanted.

[@PippyPopsSelfHarmMonica]

No tony hawk is an arcade games which is still fun. This sounds like its going to be fucking fortnite on skateboards

[@beta_byte]

What worries me THE MOST is them making it available on mobile, meaning that they'll probably have to withhold graphics, mechanics and features because it wouldn't be supported on phones...

[@karande75]

i hope they do what they did with apex, the mobile version is practically a different game

[@beta_byte]

@@karande75 one can only hope

[@emma6648]

Not how it works bro that’s like saying low end PCs hold back high end PCs

[@beta_byte]

@@emma6648 That's not how PCs and ports work mate, educate yourself.

[@URBONED]

Based on the huge promises made in this video, and having seen the developers of Skater XL do the same only not to deliver - gives me only one hope; that if the game fails, the modding community on PC will be the only ones to save it eg. make it playable offline if that isn't a built in feature. I for one have always had terrible internet, and have zero interest in playing a skateboarding game online, so making it 'accessible to everyone' is in fact not everyone if it requires a good internet connection. Skate games are the perfect thing to sit and relax to, and you can't do that with a lobby full of 14 year old's doing parkour and building megaramps everywhere.

[@SwissDontMiss]

I was always in the same boat with always having bad internet. Unfortunately, living in rural Ohio doesn't really give you too many options. Pretty sure our internet peaked at about 6 Mbps. Luckily, after recently moving into a more urban area it's skyrocketed to 400 or something so I won't have to worry about that myself, but absolutely there are so many people that don't get to have even halfway decent internet so this whole "accessible to everyone" shit they said is just a flat out lie. God I hope they have some sort of offline mode, even if it's like with what COD has done with Warzone being free and the main game costing money, that would be ok with me. I dunno how most people would react, but personally I'd be happy with that. Sucks we have to lower our expectations tremendously but oh well. EA is gonna EA

[@aaronb543]

The problem is… This is an online game… EA have great anti hack stuff. And modding the game would class as a hack and probably result in a ban from the game

[@URBONED]

@@SwissDontMiss for real. If I gotta pay money to just free skate offline I happily will. I’m not opposed to spending money if it’s creating a valuable experience. Hopefully a feature so basic is just part of the game though.

[@SkittleThugg]

Facts

[@Shot4ShotPhoto]

I could not agree more. I’m still on skate.2 and 3 and I only play offline. Unless it’s a private sesh with invited friends. I don’t want numerous kids effing everything up for the few who take skating seriously.

[@AstronomicalAdventur]

Can't believe they're doing this. How excited I was to hear them say they brought it back and also have them say "We did this for the fans". Yeah, my ass. You did it because you saw an opportunity to exploit the hardcore fanbase who have been wanting a sequel for years so you pass it off as "EA had a change of heart". Do you honestly think we are that stupid? The core game looks sick but the issue now is, paid cosmetics, paid time savers and MAYBE a "must require a constant internet connection". That plays a huge part in skate and they know it, and took advantage of it. I'm not even hopeful like some people are. I know they will full on use this to their advantage. It's a shame we now live in a world so full of greed. I'm all for companies making $$$ when the heart is poured into a project that everyone is passionate about. Look at Elden Ring for an example. I will still be getting the game Obviously since it's free but now my concern other than microtransactions is, will we see old skateboarders return? Mike Caroll, Eric koston, Danny way, PJ Ladd etc. Will they do a single player story? Or is this pure cruising with other people and paying real world money? Lastly, don't say that the previous skates divided fans. It didn't. What you decided with this live service model is dividing fans. Id rather much pay $80 for a game and then 10 or 20 for DLC that I will forever own instead of a free to play game that will probably charge $10 for a panda outfit and will create FOMO amongst players "forcing" them to spend a large sum of $$$ only to eventually have their servers shut down as years go by and as the player base dwindles, thus wasting any money spent on the game. Look at what Activision pulled with modern warfare 2019. All the dollars spent on cosmetics from 2019 will not transfer to mw2. So whoever spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars on cosmetics, you should be kicking yourself. Yes it's still accessible but the majority of the player base will be playing warzone 2.0 Also this interview is scripted af lmfao. No hard questions being asked? Classic. I'm so beyond disappointed but I'm not surprised. Shame on the veteran Devs too for agreeing to make skate a live service model game.

[@maddox54]

Yo don’t know if you seen it but the pre alpha was leaked I recommend watching a video of it or download it for yourself. There is single player and I’m pretty sure there is going to be a story. There’s a thing called skate view it allows you to see challenges all around the map so more then likely a story mode will be included. It may not be ethical but it put my pessimistic mind to rest about the game

[@graduatedpinksnowball668]

@@maddox54 Still doesn't change the question of microtransactions. Which it will be in the game, and probably a lot since LJN's son is so greedy.

[@maddox54]

@@graduatedpinksnowball668 see the thing is micro transactions aren’t as deep as people are making it it’s literally all cosmetic based

[@graduatedpinksnowball668]

@@maddox54 I believe that Full Circle would make a good game if they didn't have EA towering over them. So, I think it's pretty ridiculous that you're believing them saying "cosmetics only", you must be way too optimistic and blind. They're clearly trying to keep the hype up just so that they can get more money at launch before inevitably losing all the hype and respect they'd built up.

[@maddox54]

@@graduatedpinksnowball668 in my opinion from playing the pre alpha full circle is doing an amazing job the game is extremely enjoyable and I do understand why you wouldn’t believe them cause ea be doing some bs but at the same time think about it, how would one make a skate game pay to win that doesn’t make any sense, but there’s no use in arguing in it I believe that they aren’t only doing it for the money based off of how good the game is already and you think they are only doing it for the money because of micro transactions it’s all just a matter of time

[@philipp0822]

Imma be 100% honest. This isn't what Skate fans have been waiting for for 12 years. A free to play cash grab with micro transactions, no story mode and forced multiplayer. This is essentially the exact opposite of what most, if not all of us where waiting for. The story made the Skate games for me. I replayed them over and over. I'm honestly really disappointed, but not surprised that EAs greedy grubby little fingers ruined another beloved game franchise

[@jeffrey5654]

Free to play?! Don’t want to raise my hopes yet.. But this took away alot of hype for me.

[@Itz_A3]

explain. they already said micro transactions won’t ruin the game with pay to win. how could it possibly ruin the hype. free to play means astronomically more players which is only a good thing

[@-AK-]

@@Itz_A3 How many publishers say that? Look what Activision did with Crash team nitro fueled, I'd take stuff like "we won't ruin the game with microtransactions" with the smallest grain of salt. EA is a corporation, their goal is to make as much money as possible, if the game is free to play expect bullshit mobile game level of microtransactions.

[@YogiTheBearMan]

They gotta make money somehow and if it isn’t by charging for the game….

[@-von1836]

@@YogiTheBearMan so charge they should charge for the game I rather pay for the game than for everything in the game

[@alextran3147]

@@YogiTheBearMan then charge for the game

[@TheHeroZocker]

Even if it seems noble to conceptualize the game without pay2win mechanics, for me a f2p model will always be limiting. "here you can save up to 3 skate parks, but you want to create a fourth one? sorry buddy, it's going to cost you" "4 free hair colors, but you want more? pull out your wallet" But what bothers me the most is the fact that the game, like any f2p title, will be killed off one day in about 10-12 years when there are too few active players. After that you will never be able to play skate 4 again, neither alone nor with friends. never visit your skate parks again. I dread the thought.

[@alex898]

You nailed it on the head. I would rather just pay to buy the game in its entirety and not have all that shoved down my throat then play the game "for free" but have the game keep tapping me on the shoulder trying to nickle and dime me.

[@TasmanianGodGeo]

REPLY FOR YOU AND DEVS a game being ftp doesnt determine if it dies in 10-12 years, we also have literally no info on their ftp model or microtransactions, we can actuall vocalise how wed like them to go about the ftp model rather than say oh im not gonna get the game because its ftp. id rather have seasonal iterations of content every couple months with maybe a long battle pass with a ton of stuff to earn but also at the same time 2X the content of the battlepass but completely free and seperate that IS SET UP to be EARNED, but CAN be bought if players dont want to grind for it because guess what alot of us do work a ton and its nice to not have to do absolutely insane grinding for some cosmetic gear because i want to look cool and that all the battlepass hear is themed around something i dont like. if anything i can expect some type of skate kred micro currency but i REALLY WANT IT TO BE CHEAP like a TON of cosmetic gear you can get for the value of like 5$ in game, like 30 pieces of cosmetic stuff or something. if we get a battlepass in the ftp model and earnable gear we need far more earnable gear than cosmetics at all times of the game being out and grinding for gear needs to be rewarding and time consuming but not absolutely absurd, id gladly pay 60$ for the game but at that point im not enticed to spend anymore money vs if its ftp im liekly to drop more than 60$ on cosmetics because THE COSMETICS feel like theyre valued that much. FOR THE DEVS IF THEY SEE THIS DO NOT GIVE US LESS CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS THAN END OF CONTENT RELEASE SKATE 3 AT BASE FOR THIS GAME, DO NOT GET RID OF ALL THE WAYS WE COULD CUSTOMIZE OUR CHARACTERS LIKE ACTUALLY PUTTING YOUR OWN DESIGNS ON BOARDS AND LIMBLESS GLITCHES BEHIND PAYWALLS AND BATTLE PASSES, YOU WILL 100% KILL THE GAME IF THE CUSTOMIZATION IS BAD, I HAVENT TOUCHED HALO INFINITE SINCE LAUNCH AND IT WILL BE REGARDED AS A TERRIBLE LAUNCH FOREVER, THIS IS HOW DEVS LOSE TRUST. TO PLAYERS AND CONSUMER STOP BUYING GAMES WHEN DEVS DO LESS WORK, IVE SPENT NO MORE MONEY ON HALO INFINTE AND WILL NOT BE PICKING IT BACK UP UNTIL FORGE IS OUT AND IF FORGE AND CUSTOM GAMES ARENT GODLY THEN RIP INFINITE, I WILL NEVER EVER BUY A HELLO GAMES GAME BECAUSE THEY LIED ABOUT NO MANS SKY MULTIPLAYER, STOP SUPPORTING THOSE TYPE OF DEVS FFS.

[@Blarm]

It's just going to be a big online freeskate thing. No story/career mode

[@eliwrldz]

@@Blarm you don’t know stop saying that their still making the game I hate you people taking the game down this is why I don’t play f2p games

[@Swaps2]

@@TasmanianGodGeo what your saying makes sense, but its (current EA) and F2P, those don't mix well and they never will. I'm sure the core of this game will be made for the fans but that's only gonna be about %5 of the whole game, they have to set it up full with microtransactions for every little cosmetic to profit off a SKATE game. which is why so many people are complaining. Now if they somehow take the bullet and willingly will loose money to make this a better game? maybe but I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt it. I've been playing the skate games religiously and they're are taking this in the completely wrong direction with f2p IMO but who knows

[@BamboTV87]

Free to play... I was so excited for this game man.

[@ovophantuums5809]

bro u were like 2 when skate 3 came out lol

[@BamboTV87]

@@ovophantuums5809 What? I grew up playing the skate series. Im 16 dude and the last time I checked I was born before any of the skate games. Just stop dude.

[@BRINK2011THEGAME]

@@BamboTV87 lol that’s why this game is like this ……. The new era of fortnite players! If you have 16 you even play the skate 1 and 2 when they release

[@BamboTV87]

@@BRINK2011THEGAME If what you are saying is that they will do things the way fortnite has, I agree. That's how I interoperate this anyways.

[@punk8634]

ok no one gives a fuck if u dont want to play the game then jus say that

[@JimmyJahms]

Definitely killed my hype when they said live service and F2P. Shit is gonna be so wack.

[@xUseTheForks]

Yer it's sad:( skateboard and character customisation should never be put behind a pay wall

[@henrique4225]

This was extremely disappointing. It couldn't be different coming from EA. I'm tired of this fucking game industry today.

[@xUseTheForks]

@@henrique4225 yer and I bet it'll be like $10 for a pair of shoes and $20 for a skateboard deck and crap like that

[@caprise-music6722]

Hopefully only the silly wacky customization is mtx

[@_wonge]

Yeah I'm definitely not as excited anymore either

[@stayawakeandwatch]

free to play..... and microtransactions..... idk fellas..... my excitement went from 100 to 25 after hearing this....

[@THEmfGOBLIN]

He mentions how “people never played Skate 1 or 2 because they couldn’t afford it” I think the majority of gamers would’ve rather of paid to play CoD, their favorite sports game, or whatever huge release was coming that year. What they should’ve done is make the game $60 which you get a single player and every cosmetic item. You then make a free version that only allows the player to play online and if they want to customize their player then they pay for whatever. Skate. will fall off quickly forcing players to pay for cosmetic items. I’m sure you’ll still have those super fans that’ll always be playing but this model of gaming isn’t sustainable for Skate. This isn’t Fortnite, Fall Guys, or Apex where players (which are younger kids) want to pay for cosmetics. Halo brought in that feature of forcing players to pay for cosmetic features and a lot of players turned their backs on that community because they really care about how their character looks. 8 - 10 months after Skate. releases it’ll be dead and they’ll be using “FOMO” tactics to get players to come back.

[@Casskgk]

The one game we would gladly spend all our money on & they do this 😂

[@krisisthekidd]

4 real bro wtf jajaja

[@ludoviccoutu7960]

man I was ready to buy a platinum edition at 150$ lol

[@von...]

@@ludoviccoutu7960 dead ass bro, idgaf ill spend it all up front. but FOH with this f2p shit dude

[@teeambird2079]

@@ludoviccoutu7960 for real this is literally the only game I would drop mega platinum edition whatever money on and it’s free 😂

[@david02129]

Basically, all I got from this is "you won't be playing this offline, and there will be no good way to preserve this when we decide it doesn't make us enough money to continue maintaining" Fix these and you'll have my attention. Give us our single player and you can have my 60 bucks just like we used to do it. The whole idea behind free to play just tells me there will not be nearly as much content and purpose as the previous games had out of the gates.

[@jon.meister]

after watching this i realise now that this game is not for the fans. it's for the market. it's for casual people that don't know or care about the franchise, just troves of people who will willingly pay for stupid microtransactions. is skate really about to become the fortnite of skating games?

[@brittanyisaketten]

sigh, yup, and it breaks my heart....

[@amp4105]

obviously? do you think they would spend money developing skate 4 if it was a simple skateboarding singleplayer game? They'd probably lose money.

[@Gab22.]

Yeah that's the thing, they say they are back because of us but they don't make a game for us

[@Snow-mp7zz]

i mean obviously its not gonna be just for the fans they want everyone to want to play it

[@SAVANTI711]

@@amp4105 Lose money, even though SKATE 4 trended all the time on Twitter everytime E3 was on, It's got one of the most dedicated fanbases ever. They wouldn't lose money if they made a full priced game.

[@bobtheguy6241]

welp... that all but killed any shred of optimism I had about this game. When I heard that EA was going to be making a new skate game I was excited but immediately thought "hold up, this is EA; how are they going to manage to ruin it this time?" Turns out they ruined it by making it F2P. I can't even imagine how abhorrent the microtransactions are going to be with the F2P model, EA already shoves them down your throat every chance they get on games that are $60. You won't even be able to walk down the damn street without being charged $0.03 per step. This better just be a marketing ploy to demonstrate how you're "listening to the fans"...

[@theuchihakidd]

Imagine being mad at EA for making a decision you can't control cry about it 🤡

[@bobtheguy6241]

@@theuchihakidd imagine being happy with greedy decisions made to hurt the consumer. 🤡

[@nfdhje38743m]

@@theuchihakidd and yet you're crying in the reply section of every single negative comment about a company that's worth 36 billion dollars. how much they pay you for that? or are you doing it for free, since you have no goals in life? 🤡🤡🤡

[@Random-xj1gc]

Multiplayer and micro transactions are going to kill immersion especially for people who love to play skate more realistically, without doing crazy impossible stuff with tone of other players flying around

[@stevo13951395]

I really hope theres a single player /story mode . That was always my favorite part

[@raexv1]

if it’s free to play there won’t be

[@DominicOrnelas]

Whats sad is they will likely make a great game that will be riddled with microtransactions that kill the fun - like most EA titles. Hoping for the best cuz this could really be an amazing game for the community.

[@jakeling7794]

When they showed the clip of everyone skating in the same bowl it honestly looked like my idea of hell, there’s a real worry that this game is moulded but streamers who need to make content, not the actual community who want something totally different

[@ethantuttman9151]

Literally saw the same thing and got really concerned. This is not skate hahaha

[@theuchihakidd]

@@ethantuttman9151 it is skate people do that shit in skate 3 what's the difference

[@Highlife9719]

Welp my excitement went out the window when they mentioned Free to play smh

[@bootyblck]

so you dont like that people will have access to the game?

[@JamminJoeVids]

@@CaraCreations1000 not at all. But it means there will be a significant downgrade in quality and no emphasis on a single story mode. We don’t want fortnight aspects in the skate game we’ve been waiting for for 10 years. Plus a mobile release means they can’t go all out on consoles which could mean a mediocre game over all

[@akinsa]

Such a bad bad bad idea gonna be a mess on day one

[@Nothinglastsforever]

@@CaraCreations1000 how did poor people nab expensive consoles and gpus at all time highs?

[@JamminJoeVids]

@@CaraCreations1000 also I want to point out that free to play doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t have to pay for anything. EA is very greedy and they use “free to play” as a front to charge for other things. Sometimes you’ll end up paying more than you would if it was just a flat 60 dollars retail price. They say that they won’t do that but I don’t trust EA at all

[@zo7034]

I know its not the devs fault, but to the EA and/or Full Circle management that insisted on a F2P with Microtransaction, congrats on killing so so much hype and hope for the game. 99% of people would rather pay upfront for the game and get everything in game. Unlocking via playing the game is way better than unlocking via paying. Its sad to see that they don't really understand why people loved the old skate games. Such a shame seeing EA resort to type when they could make an actual good game that the player base likes for the first time in a long time.

[@lukasvonniederhausern2629]

Sorry, it is the devs fault also. If they don't stand up against this, shit like this happens!

[@KharonYT]

@@lukasvonniederhausern2629 Stand up and gey fired? Very clever dude 👏

[@lukasvonniederhausern2629]

@@KharonYT I don't think it always has to come that far. But do you think great things happen in a culture where everyone is subservient to money and dictated by finance and investors? That's where mediocre work comes from at best. But I was looking forward to something big.

[@tomsawyer2699]

99% of people is just vocal old fans. The more accurate number would be about 10%. This game will do way better as f2p.

[@zo7034]

@@lukasvonniederhausern2629 They get fired, someone new comes in and does the job. You want these people to lose their livelihoods and ability top provide for the their family?

[@colinhawks2469]

Now that it’s been some hours and I’ve had time to let things settle…time to think…time to have moments of remembering throughout the day…I can say with certainty that I’m no longer excited for this. Every time this new Skate game pops back to mind all I can feel is disappointment, and that disappointment grows with each passing moment. My desire for this game is gone…and I don’t like that! It sucks to know that THIS is what we are getting. The game many of us hoped for just isn’t here. This isn’t what we all wanted…and our strong desire and hope leads to a wanting to come to a level of acceptance that we are at least getting something. But that “something” is still hollow. It will never be what we truly desired no matter how we try to justify it. We’re reaching for straws at this point. This isn’t the way it should be. Even the fact that this isn’t “Skate 4” and now just “Skate”…like, I can’t help but think of Star Wars Battlefront. Similar naming practice of restarting the title, and we all know how that went. F2P model is a toxic poison. It dictates a chain reaction of how a game is managed for the purpose of making money. Microtransactions are required to generate ROI, live service model to add content to keep players invested and influence further purchasing. The psychological marketing practices that come with this. This all strips fun from a game and you can tell how the general opinion of consumers is growing far more negative towards these practices. I remember when Rocket League went F2P and watched how it eroded the general experience, the community, the esport, overall positive engagement as a whole. Sure, the number of players increased, the microtransaction practices shifted, and I’m sure they make more money than they did before…but at what cost? I watched a community die out. I watched as the game “changed” and none of it for the better. It’s like the heart and soul left somewhere. Funny how they no longer show how many players are online anymore…kind of sus. My point here is, I’ve seen this behavior before. All the comments on this video I’ve seen before but under a different title and I know it’s been repeated for other titles too. The gas is out on this…and this one is under EA of all things as well. A company who already has one of the worst reputations in the industry. I’d love to be proven wrong for once on something like this…but I’d also love to win the lottery. Weird to say that I feel like the latter is more likely that the former… Edit: spelling corrections

[@jorgetwo4279]

They killed Anthem the moment their life support clearly wasn't working. They will do it to this game and if it's an online only game, the servers will go within months mark my words.

[@deciofreitas3470]

Theres a video of Steve Jobs saying how these management teams have no desire of delivering a good product but instead shift their focus on making money only, its sad that skate 4 is not going to exist with the story mode and all that hype it had because of these vulcher teams, if it goes as expected I'll meet you guys back in skate 3 ps3, very sad about this too, skate 4 shouldnt be like fortnite or apex legends >:(

[@MoyoGaming]

No one asked for a f2p MTX live service game... we just want Skate 4... take all of this back, go back to the drawing board and make what the community WANTS!

[@Nothinglastsforever]

RIP SKATE. It died the day Blackbox was shuttered.

[@Reds-Retros]

After 10 years of waiting and finally having some hope that one of my favorite single player franchises to escape this world's BS would return, it just ends up going the live service route that so many other of my favorite franchises and developers ended up going. I don't know how I didn't see it coming, especially with EA and that slapped together pre alpha footage trailer but this is not the skate I wanted, nor the one I hoped for. Looks I'm just going to be going back to the original skate trilogy for the foreseeable future after all. Should have been an easy win, but no, of course EA would do their EA thing and find a way to screw it up, and of course, when it fails its going to be our fault because "there's no interest in skate, or other single player EA franchises anymore".

[@zooted5443]

Bruh. You're going to be able to play offline, calm tf down and do your research. I've been playing the alpha for 2 days now and it's better than other titles lmao.

[@Reds-Retros]

@@zooted5443 it's an online service game from EA, why on earth would you be able to access it offline and where is your proof of that? Apparently 15 years of seeing these predatory models in action isn't doing my research.. Right.

[@zooted5443]

@@Reds-Retros Once again, I've been playing the Alpha which has multiplayer and single player. Where is YOUR proof? Keep jumping to conclusions like everyone else it's okay. I understand a lot of you people will need therapy after this video.

[@Reds-Retros]

@@zooted5443 so you're saying I can download and play the alpha without signing into anything and requiring an persistant online connection? Also lose the attitude buddy, I've been in the gaming loop for 28 years and I know my business models. I'm just asking a question.

[@WorldsWorstBoy]

Devs are making a HUGE mistake making this free to play with micro transactions and no story. It’s like they care about money more than making a fan loved game. Has me concerned big time.

[@liamjamesevans]

Free to play will help the game live on for years. Apex Legends cosmetic system is excellent and the Skate team is taking notes from that

[@roguecraftstar9251]

@@liamjamesevans what happens when one day ea decides the game is no longer profitable and shuts down the servers. Say bye bye to the game you’ve poured hours into and spent $100s on

[@manuelsousa8479]

No way!! They’re not adding story into the game?!? That’s what made skate 2 and 3 for me

[@1992AJL]

This is actually a huge admission on their part. They have made it clear it's not a Skate 1/2/3 sequel, and have made it free to play. This could be a very underwhelming release that could take a couple of years of additions/updates before it feels like a substantial game.

[@tevb8834]

@@liamjamesevans apex cosmetic system excellent? Are you an ea dev?? 36 euro’s for a fucking skin is insane

[@roonyq]

A collective sigh was just recorded from millions of skate fans. R.I.P skate.

[@theuchihakidd]

rIp sKaTe 🤡

[@SeaNBlack]

@@theuchihakidd RIP Skate.

[@AlwayzSkateboarding]

Does that mean that we will have no Singleplayer campaign? That would be incredible sad. That’s something i really miss the most in skater xl and session

[@SoadJonny]

In session there is one. But kind of limited

[@SoadJonny]

@Guj session is great but feeling clunky at first. But will be polished in September

[@benjamingiddens6758]

if they didn't have one planned, today's reaction will probably get that in the works lol

[@AlwayzSkateboarding]

@Guj I like the features and the devs way more than easy days. But sadly skater xl feels a lot better for me. The animations, the smooth controls etc. Session is good but it feels a bit clunky. But yeah I know the trouble with easy days. And yeah I know what you mean with the Session campaign. But I would kill for a good old triple a campaign like in skate 2 or 3.

[@Tigeroovy]

I would 100% prefer to pay for the game upfront and have a good robust single player experience with ADDITIONAL online features. I don’t want to have another free to play online based game that is eventually unplayable because EA has decided it’s not worth keeping the servers active anymore. The game has a lot of potential, but please don’t ruin things with a games as a service model.

[@JohnSmithson999]

Feels like a marketing team selling me a product and not a dev team telling me about the game they're making

[@SethKasso]

All the dialogue dialogue is so stilted and unnatural. Really an EA production to the core.

[@crazytoms2000]

I really just want a single player offline mode and I am willing to pay the price for this. Even if it a f2p I really hope there will be offline mode and that cosmetics will also be unlockable with in-game progress/currency. I hate paying for cosmetic. What I loved about playing skate 2-3 was that I could at no cost change my character when felt like it. I also loved that you had to beat challenges to unlock certain outfits which makes it more rewarding than paying x$ to unlock a pair of shoes. Please do not go with a f2p. but the rest looks awesome.

[@theuchihakidd]

No go with f2p there literally a dlc where you can unlock everything I'd rather actually play the game normally most people probably bought that because of how long it takes to get everything I only did it because I played skate 3 before and I'm not unlocking everything again it's a waste of time they don't need to add dlc to this game anyway I'll just buy it with real money casue I ain't broke like some of y'all mfs on the internet

[@VXFluff]

If they don’t respond to the public reaction to this video then it’s going to be made pretty obvious they aren’t actually listening to the community

[@thatcarlosguy3820]

They're only listening skate streamers by the looks of it. Majority of these people LIKE microtransactions as buying them gives them content to stream about.

[@POOKISTAN]

Like pretty much all of the entertainment industry, it's more likely than not that they loathe their fanbase...