The Book Was Better: The Black Cauldron Review

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KrimsonRogue

KrimsonRogue

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@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 6 жыл бұрын
Out of all the remakes that Disney is cranking out they're just sitting over a Black Cauldron remake or a complete adaptation of the Prydain Chronicles which are a literal gold mine for Disney.
@supermariof0521
@supermariof0521 6 жыл бұрын
TheSlayFer Ch. T. Exactly. Why not remake stuff like "Atlantis: TLE", The Sword in the Stone" and "Treasure Planet". BUT NO!! Instead they are tarnishing the names of their animated movies that still have decades worth of staying power.
@josh420masterB
@josh420masterB 5 жыл бұрын
They did just renew their copyrights to The Chronicals of Prydane within the last year, I wouldn't be surprised if they attempted to get a franchise going with that; especially since Netflix is planning to purchase the rights to Chronicals of Narnia from them.
@lunabearsong2043
@lunabearsong2043 5 жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 but Treasure Planet is GORGEOUS! And a fantastical, amazing adventure/fantasy movie.
@supermariof0521
@supermariof0521 5 жыл бұрын
@@lunabearsong2043 Too bad Disney didn't give two fucks when it came out. :(
@lunabearsong2043
@lunabearsong2043 5 жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 true. It could have been a beautiful world.
@forestgrump4723
@forestgrump4723 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like they started it as an adults animated film then some high up exec was like "S'cuse me? This is disney, we make children's films! Drop at least a third of the violence, bland out the characters so they can be self inserts and for gods sakes throw in SOMETHING that's fluffy and cute!" So they had to struggle with kiddifying it while still trying to capture a more adult tone.... which in the end just made it appeal to neither audience until nostalgia glasses caught it. Everything looks better through nostalgia glasses.
@forestgrump4723
@forestgrump4723 6 жыл бұрын
As for me, I just really like Henwen, she is just the cutest thing. And now that you've made her into a stoner pig she's even better. God I love Henwen,
@Foustdoodles98
@Foustdoodles98 6 жыл бұрын
@@forestgrump4723 I actually like this film. I think it's pretty cool, yes it's not very good but I'm willing to over look that. And just enjoy for what it is.
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 6 жыл бұрын
Forest Grump I just realised something. Isn’t the pig cute enough?😅
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 6 жыл бұрын
woooudo huh?
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 6 жыл бұрын
Forest Grump na, problem is it was probably a kid’s film until they saw bluth releasing his string of films that were dark yet for kids and thus tried to emulate that while forgettin how the dark aspects worked
@kittygrimm7301
@kittygrimm7301 6 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I do adore the idea of a fairy who's not some pretty little lady, but a grumpy old man.
@gantzllat
@gantzllat 3 жыл бұрын
there are fairies said to have been so ugly, they would warn you before presenting themselves.
@erainmartinez8175
@erainmartinez8175 3 жыл бұрын
Can I say the cat in the begging is adorable?
@malcolmjoseph2580
@malcolmjoseph2580 3 жыл бұрын
i guess I'm pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good place to stream new tv shows online ?
@mercedeswalt6621
@mercedeswalt6621 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
@cartooncritique6625
@cartooncritique6625 Жыл бұрын
Old Fairy: "Ya Damn Mortals! Get the f**k off my grass!" 😂
@QueenCloveroftheice
@QueenCloveroftheice 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I just like dark stuff, but I didn't think the movie was that scary. I thought the darker imagery was kind of a refreshing change of pace for Disney. It also felt like Disney's first attempt at high fantasy, which was cool! Too bad it didn't do well.
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 5 жыл бұрын
Or disney’s attempt to one up don bluth, who actually also had to cut stuff out of land before time because of how dark he was goin
@TheEtherny
@TheEtherny 6 жыл бұрын
Someone missed Hunchback, a story about a merciless man killing a whole minority just because he couldn't hook up with an exotic dancer...Oh, also, he was about to kill a baby right after killing his mother but decided not to and kept him as his servant telling him he was a monster. Disney had some serious tone issues back then and I loved it! Would love to see your take on it since the book was indeed better in regards of tone.
@josh420masterB
@josh420masterB 5 жыл бұрын
As dark as The Hunchback was, it was still dialed down from its source material.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын
That book is far more messed up than Disney’s adaptation. Still major credit that Hunchback was even made into a Disney feature; while they toned down the grimmer elements, they did write one of the darkest villain songs
@lucyglasspool9273
@lucyglasspool9273 4 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 Lowkey one of my favourite Disney songs! So creepy.
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick 4 жыл бұрын
@@josh420masterB BIG TIME.
@whoisyouranime
@whoisyouranime 6 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for Disney's Black Cauldron but I can understands people's dislike for it. I've always wanted to read the books the movie was adapted from.
@Rikrobat
@Rikrobat 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly would like Black Cauldron much more if Gerky (or whatever) wasn't a part of it. Every time I try the movie again, I end up so frustrated by that one element.
@sewcat6486
@sewcat6486 6 жыл бұрын
TheHardMode it’s really good
@chadschmaltz9790
@chadschmaltz9790 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely give it a shot. After visiting Wales, I have a whole new appreciation for them.
@bubblegumcrisis747
@bubblegumcrisis747 4 жыл бұрын
You should read them. They're short, and can be read in a weekend.
@CeltycSparrow
@CeltycSparrow 5 жыл бұрын
The hilarious irony is, the Black Cauldron was one of the last animated movies Disney made (the last two being the Great Mouse Detective and Oliver & Company....both INFINITELY superior to this abomination) before Disney would create their Renaissance series....which would later be known as the crown jewels of Disney animation. And why does....Gergy, is it?....sound like a squeaky version of Gollum?
@Godzillakingofkaiju1
@Godzillakingofkaiju1 Жыл бұрын
Gurgi was basically sword and sorcery Chewbacca in the books.
@amberrizzi1207
@amberrizzi1207 6 жыл бұрын
Just one question: WHERE THE HELL IS ELIDYR? He was a major source of conflict for Taran in the book and made Taran's decision to give up the cauldron toward the end absolutely crushing. Just adding him in alone would have significantly improved Taran's personal growth in this movie.
@chadschmaltz9790
@chadschmaltz9790 5 жыл бұрын
When I read the book years after seeing the movie, I wondered the same thing. I don't really understand the reason for excluding Elidyr from the movie.
@Oceanblue_Art_
@Oceanblue_Art_ 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! The Prydain Chronicles were my favorite books when I was a kid and I'm so happy to see someone else appreciate them!
@howdyhowdyhelga
@howdyhowdyhelga 5 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed The Black Cauldron film growing up. It was kind of my first tiptoe into high fantasy and I went straight from Black Cauldron to Lord of the Rings.
@gamewizardthesecond
@gamewizardthesecond 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it in kindergarten, so same tbh
@TheGamersShade
@TheGamersShade 6 жыл бұрын
It's back!!!!, oh glorious day callooh callay.
@albertschoise8091
@albertschoise8091 6 жыл бұрын
The Gamer's Shade STAY KLINGON!!
@alen7480
@alen7480 6 жыл бұрын
I urge you to read the rest of the books. They only improve until the end. One of my favorite books, I would often buy them because I would lend out the whole series and never get them back. I didn't care, the books will always have a place in my heart.
@maskhyruken5965
@maskhyruken5965 6 жыл бұрын
16:18 do you see it witch? This Sword of mine Glows with an awesome power! It's deafening Ring tells me to defeat your pottery!
@Plaugue1122
@Plaugue1122 5 жыл бұрын
Hehehe I understood that reference
@blueteller
@blueteller 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought the movie was that bad... I just considered it bad for Disney standards - since Disney animation is my favorite and all. I never read any of the books so I lack the "fan rage" comparing it to the source material. But I admit, it is a little... bland. If it wasn't for the animation - which is pretty neat honestly - I'd have never thought it was a Disney movie, just some smaller company.
@chadschmaltz9790
@chadschmaltz9790 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't read the book until years later when I was in high school. After reading "The Book of Three" and "The Black Cauldron" I understood why the books were better but I didn't necessarily hate the movie as a result.
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 5 жыл бұрын
BlueTeller i think the movie was made the way it was just to try to upstage don bluth (the guy who made a terrifying trex that i say is scariest one i have seen, period.) and his team.
@littlepunktheone
@littlepunktheone 6 жыл бұрын
This book series wasn't so popular in Belgium. The reason why I came to know it is because, lords of the rings is for the most part based on Anglo saxon mythologie, and since a lot of fantasy books are based on the lords of the rings, a lot of fantasy books on Anglo saxon mythology. The chonicles of pyrdain are based on Welsh mythology, which because it was something different then what i was used to, got me interessted.
@BluePenguin200
@BluePenguin200 5 жыл бұрын
Pieter Van Keymeulen why would the Anglo-Saxon influence not make it popular? I don’t intend to sound ignorant or anything, I’m just curious as to why that would be (a historical reason perhaps?). Or was because it was welsh inspired it wasn’t as appealing to the wider demographic?
@jenniferschillig3768
@jenniferschillig3768 2 жыл бұрын
A thought on Taran: I realize that Disney may have been trying to create a flawed hero who makes mistakes and misjudgments, and grows beyond them. That's what makes a well-rounded character. But they undercut themselves by making Taran such a whiner from the get-go--we need to WANT to see him achieve his goals, instead of rolling our eyes and muttering, "Will you just button your lip for five minutes?" Look at Luke Skywalker--he was a bit of a whiner when we first met him, but he also had likable qualities--for example, he showed kindness to his new droids even as he griped over being stuck on Tattooine. So we related to him and wanted to see him succeed. (Kind of a shame that they cut out the scene of him hanging out with his buddies in Anchorhead--that would have made him even more relatable.) Taran just comes off as an annoying kid with delusions of grandeur that he never really achieved--as you said, his triumphs are mainly accidental. (They probably didn't make him more active in the Horned King's defeat because they got cold feet about showing a twelve-year-old committing murder, even of a villain...never mind that in the original Treasure Island, they had ten-year-old Jim Hawkins shoot a pirate dead!)
@eliasbischoff176
@eliasbischoff176 6 жыл бұрын
Dammit krimson. I have to study. You can't just upload your amazing videos like that, you just can't
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, not sorry. :P
@T5ComixCartoonz
@T5ComixCartoonz 6 жыл бұрын
1:18 Who'd they have in the director's seat Ralph Bakshi? XD 9:38 Well, that stands to reason. He's voiced by John Hurt. ^^ 17:41 Sooooo...he was basically Courage the Cowardly Dog.
@darthstarkiller6605
@darthstarkiller6605 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man that care bear movie was absolute fire so Disney had ZERO chances of beating it
@josh420masterB
@josh420masterB 5 жыл бұрын
Damn straight, those heart-nosed little bastards brought their A-game. Top-notch form, you had to hand it to em.
@noahthompson2912
@noahthompson2912 4 жыл бұрын
Don't humor that movie , my bear-loving friend
@thegayghost872
@thegayghost872 6 жыл бұрын
Have you considered reviewing Quest for Camelot?
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 5 жыл бұрын
Quest for Camelot was not a book, it a loosely based off of Arthurian legends.
@tylerfish2701
@tylerfish2701 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Quest for Camelot was based on a book, but with a different name.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerfish2701 which book?
@tylerfish2701
@tylerfish2701 4 жыл бұрын
The King's Damosel.
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231
@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Fish ohhh
@lucas23453
@lucas23453 4 жыл бұрын
You are a bad man, putting a jumpscare in a book review, nobody would ever have expected that.
@ilopominecrafter
@ilopominecrafter 6 жыл бұрын
The real problem is that don bluth and several high rankin animators left disney in the very late 70’s. Don had been makin a livin makin dark kids movies that were rakin it in while disney struggled for replacements and thus likely rushed out this movie very sloppily to try to compete with bluth.
@Bushwhacker-so4yk
@Bushwhacker-so4yk 5 жыл бұрын
This book series also has a lot of references to Welsh mythology. Arawn is the ruler of the Annwfn, the Other World, although in the books they made him a villain and respelled his land as Annuvin. The three witches seem to represent Ceridwen, or in a broader sense, the concept of the Celtic Triple Goddess. They raised Dallben, which shows how old they really are, and the story of how Dallben left them is that he burned himself helping them make a potion, and then sucking on the burn gave him knowledge. This is a direct lift from the story of Taliesin. The interesting thing is Taliesin is also a background character in the books. The symbol that bards use is actually the Awen, the symbol for inspiration from the same story. Gwydion and the Sons of Don are nephews of King Math, and Gwydion really was close to the king, close enough to enlist his help finding a wife for his adopted son. Pigs in Welsh mythology are sacred and show up a lot, so it makes sense Hen Wen is oracular. The Cauldron of Rebirth did raise zombie armies, but it was in the hands of the King of Ireland for its main story. I could go on.
@hemidas
@hemidas 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Horned King was voiced by great, late John Hurt.
@swimmyswim417
@swimmyswim417 5 жыл бұрын
2:15 to be fair, I’ve always considered the Care Bears Movie to be surprisingly dark and epic considering the source material. Then again, I was an 8-year old watching it with my 3-year old sister when I first saw it... 🤷‍♀️
@ryanelliott1907
@ryanelliott1907 3 жыл бұрын
"The audience is now sober." Haha yeah right Krim. Im still drunk and enjoying your video to the max. For at least my 10th time.
@nathankromer1950
@nathankromer1950 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved Disney movies, but I haven’t watched them all, and I’m glad that I haven’t seen any of those live action movies or this movie
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the books were terrifying as well. I need to get the other books and binge read the series. The movie did kind of inspire me to write more dark fantasy and to improve on my art. But yea, further, the movie didn't do well on other things. R.I.P Gurgi, murdered by the movie. Although, I really loved the Morva scene. Easily the best moment. Though I am with Dolby.
@nealonbradley9504
@nealonbradley9504 6 жыл бұрын
I said it once I'll say it again the second you do Seventh Son I'll be dropping everything to see you eviscerate the bastardization of the Wardstone Chronicles.
@Fant
@Fant 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the jumpscare had a bit less annoying sound but at least it wasn't too loud.
@wcapewell3089
@wcapewell3089 6 жыл бұрын
Have to admit, ive only ever seen this once, though to watch it i had to go on vimeo. I actually own this movie on dvd, i use to watch it on my holidays in tenarif in spain. It was part of my childhood.
@billymccrary2246
@billymccrary2246 Жыл бұрын
If the film got an live-action reboot, the film should've been rating PG-13 for some dark moments.
@marcusreading3783
@marcusreading3783 5 жыл бұрын
I really dont think you should be giving Tenrin a hard time for graverobbing considering most RPG heroes consider that a perfectly acceptable way to get pocket change for health potions. Hell, most of my income in Skyrim comes from either slitting throats or stealing from Nordic tombs.
@fmjmanarroyo1342
@fmjmanarroyo1342 2 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to find this movie for decades. As a kid I loved this movie.
@poppybelle23
@poppybelle23 5 жыл бұрын
A youtuber called BREADSWORD actually did an extremely in depth analysis of the making of the black cauldron and its definitely worth checking out if you're into Disney or even just animated movies
@Al-jp7vc
@Al-jp7vc 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Krimson, will you please do a Treasure Planet book was better review? P.S. It's good to see you again. It's been a while since you've uploaded.
@greenskull3384
@greenskull3384 6 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I'd love to see that!!!!
@FixYoSelf
@FixYoSelf 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure treasure planet started life as a screenplay not a book
@chadschmaltz9790
@chadschmaltz9790 5 жыл бұрын
@@FixYoSelf the book was Treasure Island.
@michaelwalls5638
@michaelwalls5638 5 жыл бұрын
i don't think that would befair to the movie treasure iswland was just the starting point for treasure planet
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT 6 жыл бұрын
I heard that Disney is giving the series another go. What's your view on it, Krimson?
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 6 жыл бұрын
PrinceCanute really?
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. They wanna make a series out of it.
@TheFLAMEXD
@TheFLAMEXD 6 жыл бұрын
Nate W You know 2D animation is still around, right?
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 5 жыл бұрын
I hope they do a lice action reboot just to improve the mistakes from their fist attempt.
@mrblue8439
@mrblue8439 4 жыл бұрын
10:37 I was actually falling asleep out of boredom and then I heard that. Woke me up suddenly. I would say the audience is now awake. Not saying your video was bad or boring. That afternoon I was tired.
@lunda2222
@lunda2222 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the books as a kid. Unfortunately the translation into my native language botched the title. So The Book of Three" became "Taran and the Magic Pig". Needless to say, it didn't sell well.
@hank7he7ank50
@hank7he7ank50 5 жыл бұрын
You do know Krimson, that John Byner the voice actor who did the voice for Doli also did the voice for Gurgi. What can I say except you welcome. ;D
@artsman412
@artsman412 Жыл бұрын
Huge thanks to this channel! Because of this review, I actually read the Chronicles of Prydain. The series is amazing! It's up there as some of my favorite fantasy series of all time, right behind Lord of the Rings and Narnia. Thanks for recommending the books!
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639
@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 6 жыл бұрын
I thought Gurgie was adorable. And keep in mind, The Black Cauldron was before Lilo&Stitch! In case anyone tries to make a "You're biased due to similarities." claim.
@samflood5631
@samflood5631 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the Black Cauldron could have been a good Dark Fantasy Film on its own back in the 80s if Disney took risks and added all of the deleted scenes. Also, there was a deleted scene where Taren was grieving over Gurgi which could have made the ending a bit more emotional. And there was the prologue scene of the Fair Folk seeing the Horned King burning an entire village during the war.
@wassera9093
@wassera9093 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your views on Gurgi. Book Gurgi may have been somewhat simple, but he had metaphorical stones the size of asteroids made of steel. It still didn't have the moral impact of the book, the character who finally paid the price was vain-glorious for the majority of the book. but proved his nobility then.
@vitraartist2622
@vitraartist2622 5 жыл бұрын
This got me into the chronicles of Predane and it's pretty good it's basically The Lord of the Rings for younger kids and with a different world
@PunkPansy-
@PunkPansy- 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the narrator is the voice actor for Gandalf in the Rankin Bass Hobbit and Return of the King animated movies! Aaaahh!!!
@NoArtisticLimitation
@NoArtisticLimitation 4 жыл бұрын
10:33 FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDIES WARNING Don’t get terrified like I did and end up in a panic attack for half an hour.
@megtoon1304
@megtoon1304 3 жыл бұрын
10:35 jumpscare warning for anyone sensitive to those
@katherinepina9492
@katherinepina9492 6 жыл бұрын
Finally!! Missed you man :)
@caatko1388
@caatko1388 4 жыл бұрын
Okay BUT you can't go wrong with a villain as wretched as HK. John Hurt absolutely smaaaashed it. Also, anyone that feels anything but disdain and pure hatred for Gurgi needs to be vaporised
@Senidhr
@Senidhr 6 жыл бұрын
I like both mediums. The film is kind of dark and the horned king is very creepy and the books because of the story and characters (have all of them, in my country they were difficult to come by). I would find interesting and funny what you thought about book and film of Ladyhawk. Read the book recently but only saw the movie very long ago. And didn't you already covered Dune? There is a new movie about Dune?
@Graycata
@Graycata 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the "cat owning thing" I had a similar thought when watching the film
@kloggmonkey
@kloggmonkey 6 жыл бұрын
i don't even think this film was released in my country, but i do remember having it on one of those 'when you hear this sound, turn the page'-book and tape. i vividly remember the image of the horned king raising the dead from the nightmares of my childhood, i had never seen anything like that before.
@JackElliotSwan
@JackElliotSwan 5 жыл бұрын
I have fond memories of this movie as a kid, and I do love it from that stand point, but from analyzing story and character, I have got to say it is lacking. I blame Katzenberg and Eisner.
@SuperWolsey
@SuperWolsey 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, that edits were all on Katzenberg. Eisner talked him down. The real person to blame would have to be Eisner's predecessor Dick Miller, Diane Disney's former husband/Walt's son in law. Production on this was on his watch
@gracefutrell1912
@gracefutrell1912 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly they could adapt the books for a TV show for Disney+ that might be interesting and you could’ve mentioned there’s a sorceress character running around in the book with a backstory that Arwen Seduced and took her throne
@justsomeokami8867
@justsomeokami8867 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don’t mind Gurgi’s look or voice in the movie. Personality wise, yeah it’s insulting in comparison to the books as is everything else. Good review.
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 6 жыл бұрын
In this day and age of Disney remaking their animated films into live action, do you think it should be remade into alive action reboot and make it into a franchise? Also, what did you think of the trailer for the live action Aladdin?
@gerawallstar3487
@gerawallstar3487 6 жыл бұрын
@Nate W or at least improve everything wromg with the original film.
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 6 жыл бұрын
Nate W If they do Peter Pan I swear they’ll rip off the 2003 version.
@josh420masterB
@josh420masterB 5 жыл бұрын
@Nate W Couldn't agree more, The Black Cauldron was the last film Disney made with traditional 2D cell animation; it should be the first film they do that reintroduces the old technique.
@epicgam2317
@epicgam2317 6 жыл бұрын
"Laugh damn it!" 😂😂😂😂😂.
@azurastar3223
@azurastar3223 6 жыл бұрын
When I originally read the first two books, the internet wasn't readily available and I had no idea what oracle meant. I was confused for a good chunk of the story, but kept reading simply due to the mere mention of the Black cauldron, a movie I had desperately wanted to see, but never got the chance. What I remember of the books, is that they were entertaining.
@dustrose8101
@dustrose8101 5 жыл бұрын
I wish he'd do the Deltora series vs the Deltora anime.
@Bushwhacker-so4yk
@Bushwhacker-so4yk 5 жыл бұрын
You know what’s even more annoying than Gurgi’s voice in the film? The fact that I’m reading the books right now and CANNOT GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD!
@fortcastellan1730
@fortcastellan1730 6 жыл бұрын
In the movie's (very limited) defense, the annoying way that Gurgi talks did come straight from the books. So we can't blame the movie for that. Just for everything else. (I admit, the movie is a guilty pleasure of mine, whenever I get desperate for some high fantasy.) As for the books, you can look forward to one of the character riding a giant battle-cat in book III, book IV was just a great character study, and book V was a pretty decent wrap-up.
@AnAverageGoblin
@AnAverageGoblin 5 жыл бұрын
gurgi isn't annoying because of what he says, its because of his voice.
@nate1daniels745
@nate1daniels745 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, Krimson Rogue, I will now not be able to watch this movie without thinking of it as one big dnd session with a bunch of new players... Which in all honesty makes it more enjoyable.
@TCGreen-jb4bx
@TCGreen-jb4bx 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the Black Cauldron.
@TheMidnightwolf15
@TheMidnightwolf15 4 жыл бұрын
I think another thing that may have ruined this movie's chances was that is was trying to adapt a book that was part of a series. Disney are known for doing their versions of the Grimms Brothers fairytales, but I think they got away with not fully adapting the works because of how old the tales were by the time Disney started making their princess movies. And they mostly did a bunch of original works (except Jungle Book before Walt died) that were single stories before this film. So I don't think they had a whole lot of experience in adapting books faithfully to screen compared to other studios at the time. And the fact that they merged the first two books together and changed things around to fit their version of the story didn't help matters. I do wonder if they do decide to remake it with the animation technology we have now...probably won't happen, but hey, you never know.
@Klebkatt
@Klebkatt 6 жыл бұрын
Never knew this was a book. My brother had a record version with a booklet, but I think he lost the record, so I only ever looked at the images as a kid. Then one day, it struck me to look it up and watch it. I always thought the art looked really cool and spooky, like Dark Crystal, so I was looking forward to a good fantasy movie. Save for the main villain, I didn't like this movie and was very disappointed that it didn't match up with my childhood ideas of what the story would be about.
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy 5 жыл бұрын
10:40 THE HELL I AM! *continues tripping*
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, you go persistent stoner guy!
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s just say I have terrible friends.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrimsonRogue Fun Fact: John Byner who voices Doli also voices Gurgi. Sometimes even good actors can't play two characters at once.
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 6 жыл бұрын
What's really impressive is that Disney has actually re-acquired the film rights to The Chronicles of Prydain, with the intention to adapt the book series into an epic motion picture series. I guess they have learned a thing or two since this film..
@michaeliv284
@michaeliv284 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't hate Gurgy? Not like, just not hate
@nballetgirl
@nballetgirl 4 жыл бұрын
My friends grandfather wrote this book and he always talked about how disappointed the family was about how it ended up going. Can’t fully remember what he said since it’s been years since we talked about it. But he told me to read it instead of watching it.
@nballetgirl
@nballetgirl 4 жыл бұрын
Ah I was mistaken. It seems like he might’ve been his great uncle
@emily-wb4fv
@emily-wb4fv 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorite movies as a kid
@a-z4278
@a-z4278 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it's back!!!
@lasmirandadennsiewillja9435
@lasmirandadennsiewillja9435 6 жыл бұрын
As a child, I had a "comic" The Black Cauldron, which was the story told with screenshots and added speech bubbles. I loved it. It was my favorite comics for years and I especially loved all the dark stuff with the zombies and skeletons. It wasn't until a few years ago I learned there was actually a movie (I'm not even sure if it was shown in Germany, I could look it up but don't care enough) and was surprised to hear that it's considered bad and too dark. I still disagree with the "too dark" part. It was fun dark. But yeah, I can see why it's considered bad. I mean, with that pseudo-comic, the pacing was a lot crisper and it didn't come with Gurgi's voice, so I guess I really got lucky as a kid that I only experienced the merchandise but not the movie itself :D
@satiricwriter
@satiricwriter 4 ай бұрын
The way i see it, Taran giving up his desired weapon for Gurgi is a good moral lesson to kids. Sometimes in order to be the hero you want to be, you gotta sacrifice something like a sword. Gurgi, who always ran from danger out of self preserving, developed bravery by self sacrifice to the group of people he liked and in return, Tatan rejects the one item he desired most thus reviving the one creature whose life saved the entirity of Prytain. Taran may have been a total idiot for doing it but theres no more danger after the Horned King is destroyed, his warriors and henchman have scattered and the flying creatures (screw it, im calling them wyverns) have flown away. So why would Taran need it anymore?
@Godzillakingofkaiju1
@Godzillakingofkaiju1 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the spirit in the Black Cauldron is (implied to be) Arawn.
@Kimnicpat
@Kimnicpat 6 жыл бұрын
I used to think this was an early Don Bluth film post Disney break up. It was way too dark for Disney, but with its themes and darker tone overall, it would have been better suited to Bluth.
@onyxsiyrin7972
@onyxsiyrin7972 Жыл бұрын
I adored this movie as a kid. Although it did scare me as well. But as an adult I can’t really watch it the same way because from a technical standpoint the plot was rushed and under explained so, to someone who’s never read the book, it makes no sense
@jakobtrangsrud8264
@jakobtrangsrud8264 6 жыл бұрын
Never saw or read this. Feels like a book series I read on Merlin. So similar, but still very different. Focus on a cauldron with power over life and death. Two different magic swords. Many other magic items. Even some really weird characters like a miniature giant.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын
This movie could’ve been so much better, but this wasn’t a movie to market to young audiences. The animation isn’t that bad & the score is passable (however Elmer Bernstein refused to allow his score released after Disney replaced what he wrote; wasn’t till some couple years back that we got the original score). The only part of this movie I like is the chilling voice work of the late Sir John Hurt as the villain; it’s a contrast from his gentle tones in “Watership Down” to this haunting and wicked performance
@zombelladonna
@zombelladonna 3 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite movie as a kid and led to me reading the book series, which I ended up being obsessed with for years afterwards. This movie reminds me of the animated Hobbit/Lotr from Rankin Bass
@CatherineMcClain
@CatherineMcClain 5 жыл бұрын
Having never read the books (yet, but knowing the kind of stuff that inspired it, it's totally my thing and I want to read the books so much), I actually didn't hate the movie. I found it charming. However, I know that if I had read the books, I would be tearing my hair out.
@jacobriggs9652
@jacobriggs9652 5 жыл бұрын
This was originally for a teen audience. The guy currently in charge did not like that and demanded it for children and demanded a plethora of changes that were hard to do and most of the original movie was lost.
@zelectrode3337
@zelectrode3337 4 жыл бұрын
I still disagree when people say this is a bad movie. While it may not be as good as I remembered it, (I was 3 when I first saw this) I still very much like the movie. Although, that "Best. Day. Ever." joke is totally me.
@asalways1504
@asalways1504 6 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the movies Disney remade, I think this one is most necessary.
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick 3 жыл бұрын
11:22 to be fair they were in a castle full of armed baddies...I’d probably want something to fight with. Not condoning grave robbing though! (A missed opportunity was mentioning how princess elonwy was a sorceress.)
@derronmendel9650
@derronmendel9650 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do a cut of all the storyline segments at some point? Maybe after a full season or something like that. Just so that it can be viewed as a full product rather than little snippets.
@SageMoon-Moon
@SageMoon-Moon 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love The Black Cauldron. Just like I love The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
@wassera9093
@wassera9093 Жыл бұрын
"The audience is not sober." In my best Tommy Wiseau voice, "I'm not." This movie didn't bother me as a kid, and when I was old enough to read the books, 3rd grade me got offended. Adult me realizes what Don Bluth was reaching for, and failed to grasp.
@mercenaryknight5419
@mercenaryknight5419 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see this up. One of your best reviews.
@MrsYasha1984
@MrsYasha1984 6 жыл бұрын
I looooved the bad DnD puns :) also, I like this movie because of the dark tone. The story telling and the characters are no favorites of mine, but it has some spooky visuals that are awesome! anyways, loved to hear your thoughts on this and how it was adapted!
@rogantu
@rogantu 6 жыл бұрын
I liked this a lot growing up, but then again I was just obsessed with swords so that helped the movie a lot.
@Vulturevixen
@Vulturevixen 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite Disney movie to date! Watched all the time as a kid, I always liked the villans better than the heros in Disney movies and the Horned King was the best there was! Dark with cute stupid Gergie! I showed this to my partner who had never heard of it and he loved it! Never read the books but as a kid this was one of the movies I watched all the time!
@blankadams3120
@blankadams3120 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that 'jumping to the last five minutes of the movie' basically what Merlin does in Sword in the Stone?
@B3nKen0bi
@B3nKen0bi 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance you might try to review Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight? I'm interested in seeing how it faired in comparison to the book. Then again, the animatuon and cgi that it was blended with was just outright abysmal.
@KrimsonRogue
@KrimsonRogue 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen the movie. I thought that the animation wasn't that bad, but yeah, it really didn't mix with the CG at all. I just need to find the book and give that one a shot at some point.
@naomitheminion6275
@naomitheminion6275 6 жыл бұрын
I love the movie. Sure, the animation us terrible but I never really cared about that. I was in fact pleasantly surprised to see how much the movie was like the book. A lot of the things that I loved about the book made it into the movie, and it was a delight to watch.
@Katherine_The_Okay
@Katherine_The_Okay 6 жыл бұрын
Krimson, a site called Better World Books has the book for under $4 and shipping is free. I love that site so much :) cheap books, frequent sales (every couple months, you can get 30% off their regular price on 4+ books), always free shipping, and they support literacy programs. Also, i love your review, as always :)
@ciscovaiese7535
@ciscovaiese7535 6 жыл бұрын
@@KrimsonRogue you want to know why black cauldron did bad well thanks to jeffry catsinberg as he asked to have 12 minutes cut for the film also black cauldron was more for an older audience before thise minutes we're cut
@animationunlimited2958
@animationunlimited2958 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how the sword in the movie seems like the inspiration for the master sword in Legend of Zelda.
@vecilove3927
@vecilove3927 6 жыл бұрын
I loved that Movie when I was a kid:( meanie >.< 1 thumb up
@thanedynamo8434
@thanedynamo8434 6 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of doing a review on anything related to Peter Pan? I’d be interested to see your words on the mythos and its psychology, as well as how well its respective adaptation does (I’m just a huge fan of Peter Pan XD)
@Sidharthavicious
@Sidharthavicious Жыл бұрын
This was my first remembered Disney movie so I am unreasonably fond of it and Gurgi.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 6 жыл бұрын
Can I make an suggestion for the next The Book is Better? I would like to see you do TV episode adaptions. Doctor Who: Human Nature would be a good one.
@sydneyslaughter7163
@sydneyslaughter7163 6 жыл бұрын
I know I saw this as a kid because I bought the dvd as an adult purely due to curiosity. What about this movie made me forget basically all of it? Now we know.
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