The boot series, part #3/3: How to customize snowboard boots / boot fitting

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

10 months in, 16.000 views later this video has seemingly helped many people to find more comfort in their boots. If it changed your world and you want to express your gratitude and support my channel, you can do this here: www.buymeacoffee.com/justaride Thank you so much, and don't forget to check out my other content! ;-)

[@Shifter_83]

I wish this video was shot 6 years ago, so I don' have to gain all this knowledge by myself. Everything is well explained. My ankles are also so skinny, arches very high and my feet are 7.5 US so proper bootfit is very important. I fought unbearable boot pain my first four season of riding and and I was 60+ day type a rider. Now all my boots are dialed and although I don't have so much time to ride, every day in the mountain is pure joy. Your channel is awesome, pure info, no old guys myths and no up-to-the-chin snowboards. Keep the good work!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you very much! I do have a take on board length that is quite opposing the industry opinion of only going by weight, and there is a bit of 'to the chin' in my philosophy. But I'll do a full episode on that, and you can tell me whether that makes any sense. :-) Looking forward to hear your opinion once it's been uploaded here. Could be within the next week. Cheers!!

[@siunesis]

What did you do to reach confort?

[@LagmasterB]

Lars. Dude. You’re truly a one-stop shop for getting gear and body ready for peak performance.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahaha, great comment!! Love it!! 🙏🙌🤙

[@TVmuki]

​@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel But he is so right. Everything you had to gather from various sources all around the internet (if available at all) is now available on one single channel. Thank you so much for your awesome work.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@TVmuki music to my ears!!! Thank you for the moral support!! 🙂

[@LagmasterB]

Your grasp of these concepts is amazing

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks a bunch! Been doing this for a while... :-)

[@threeohm]

Thanks for the great info. I did the shell fit test and ordered a high volume Intuition liner. Got my local ski shop to heat mold them. They feel weird/bad standing around, but they feel great riding and the performance is totally better than the stock liner. Definitely worth the money and effort.

[@stevol6282]

Pretty sure 2-3 weeks ago you were at 600ish. Now you’re at 1.6. Love to see it man. Thanks for your insight. Your life is about to change.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Yeah, you're right. It's been growing like mad..... We'll see how it all goes on. I've gotten plenty of confirmation that what I'm trying to deliver has been missing in the snowboarding community, and that reflects my experience from 11 years in snowboard retail. I'll keep on trucking here, and I'll take whatever happens Thanks for the support!! I appreciate it!! 🙏

[@marcellacolombari4794]

Just great. I've just discovered from this series that my boots are not the proper size, but at least I know why. I already knew something was wrong when my left foot hurt so much. Thank you Lars!

[@100_acre_woods7]

Love the Mt. Baker poster, that’s my home mountain 🎉

[@SuperPhelix]

As someone who spent 5 or 6 tries trying to get my ski boots fitting comfortably last season this will be extremely useful when buying snowboard boots for this season ☺ Excellent video series!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Awesome!! Thanks for sharing!! Glad you like my stuff. 😊🙌

[@rutgerros9514]

"There is no limit to creativity when it comes to fitting boots". 🙌❤

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Haha, nice one!! People are too afraid and stuck in victim mentality.... Get off the couch and help yourselves! :-)

[@aussieb1416]

Thanks for the heads up on stuff I know nothing about but can apply to fix my issues I did know I was having. This is what happens when you just drink beer for bravado and throw yourself down the hill to work out how to do this snowboarding thing. This and detuning the nose and tail edges are a 100% thing everybody should know about.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I don't detune anything on my boards. Just all around the tips, the part that is not touching the snow. I make that nice and round so it never grabs in cruddy off piste conditions.

[@user-ey2im6dl9p]

I measured now Mondopoint 26 (EU41) on my bigger foot. But my Nidecker Talon are Mondopoint 28,5 (EU44) .. I dont know what was going on with my dealer and me .. 😂 I noticed this far too late ..i allways put my binding straps and the Boas to the max, to compensate that problem,without any chance Lars, your Boot-Series opens my mind and my tecnical understandig of Snowboardboots. I ordered now the Nidecker Kita in Mondopoint 26 and 26,5. Hopefully one of these fits good. Thank you for all your eye-opening contents !! 🏆 Greatings from Switzerland ✌🏼

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Love this!!! You’re not alone. So many people out there in too big of a boot.

[@chuzzwade288]

The most amazing in depth boot fit video ever. This should be industry standard. A massive thank you. I think, especially here in the uk, shops won’t make enough profit to take this much (and imo the correct amount of) time for a boot fit. Many years ago I had 32 Lashed, laced. Custom insole and heat moulded. I rode 4 weeks a season and never had an issue. One year I threw them out, my thoughts were I was due a new pair. I must have tried 4 pairs of Lashed; Boa, Laces, speed laces. All excruciating to wear. Last year they were so bad (after having fitted in a shop) I was dangerous riding, I had no control. Luckily the shop had them back and refunded me. I have Northwave Decade SL from the year before, perfect stiffness and I can charge in them (I’m now 51 and my charging days are numbered) - BUT the way the tongue is in the liner there is a seam across my foot. I have high arches and high insteps. I thought about cutting a hole out from the tongue/foot where it joins, would you advise this? I don’t think it’s an area that is affected by the heat moulding process and the only way I think to relieve the pressure is to remove it.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Yup! Cut it! Don't cause too much damage... but that is sometimes the only cure. Thanks for the comment and compliment! Thirty Two boots have reduced the amount of Intuition foam in their liners quite a bit... for what they call "a better out of the box fit"... Just to sell more boots with less effort... When I hear 'out of the box fit and comfort', I basically run! :-) A boot super perfect and comfortable in the shop will likely last about a month for me... Shop staff simply needs better product education and then fit people properly. We wouldn't need all those squishy one week boots, if there was more knowledge in the game. But snowboarding has always been a fashion show and a hype fest. That is the whole reason for this channel. I want to make a difference and share helpful knowledge - even if I don't get it right all the time... it's better to actually have a well thought out opinion than just rolling with marketing hype... So many people could have more fun with their gear, had they been told better what they actually bought in the first place... Thanks for watching my stuff!!

[@chuzzwade288]

I forgot to say that I went back to the shop I had my perfect original 32s from. Yes out the box felt great but my feet felt like they were in marshmallows after an hour. Unrideable 👎🏼

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@chuzzwade288 marshmallow is exactly the word I use for those...... Bummer!!! They were one of the few companies with a good stock liner.

[@chuzzwade288]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I have just butchered the lining tongue joint. What a crazy design (flaw). So where the tongue joins the liner, it must only be about 1.5cm wide! One was worse than the other, I took photos of how much access i cut away, without going through any stitching. I've put the boots on, cranked them tight and have had them on around the house for easy 25 minutes… no pain, no numbness! They are a really good secure fit. I ripped in these last time, on a Ride Warpig with Ride LTD bindings. Great setup but pretty heavy. I like the look and tech of those Now pro ones. But I'm not going away this year :(

[@dlabmobiledetailing]

So much great info packed into this vid. I have small calves relative to my feet so I always find the upper part of my boots to fit too loose relative to footbed area. I solved this by adding shin pad inserts into the tongue of my liner. Made a very big difference. I use the Masterfit Eliminator ski and snowboard shin pads.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Damn.... I forgot that!!! Aaaaaah! I have the same problem and have applied the same solution years ago. No need with my Intuition liners, but you're absolutely right!! Damn.... Maybe I can pin your comment to the top somehow. Thanks for contributing!!

[@dlabmobiledetailing]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel haha glad I could contribute! I’ve been looking at some Intuition liners for a while now and getting ready to pull the trigger. I’m trying to decide between a couple. What model do you use?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@dlabmobiledetailing Tongue DH in Dual Density, 9mm (low volume). All depends on the shell fit and any personal issues/preference. My legs are too skinny for wrap liners.... they'd literally wrap around twice, hahaha 🙂

[@dlabmobiledetailing]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel haha oh man I suffer from same issue big time and that’s mainly what I’m looking to solve. The shin pads work but I also want the added stiffness and overall quality of the liner itself and not the to mess with pads. Intuition website recommended the wraps for me even though I checked the small calve box so I was kind of questioning that. Will prob wrap around my leg 3 times lol. Waiting on my new insanos to get here. Coming from Malamutes so I will feel out the stock liners first as they seem pretty good out of the box.

[@Cocora22]

This is incredibly helpful. I've been snowboarding for 20 years and I wish I had 1/10th of this info. before. I just bought a brand new pair of Nidecker Altai boots and the fit really is good but I Think I'll go back to the store and have them heat molded.

[@sethbowers]

The only thing I would add is heal wedges. I had IT band issues for years and adding a simple wedge under my footbed on the outside of my foot corrected the angle and took the pressure off my knees. That combined with some Game Changer footbeds has really helped. If you have knee pain give it a try.

[@thesneak281]

I have narrow ankles and I get heel lift. I installed some j bars and that seemed to help. I think I want to add some foam in front of the tongue, help hold my heel back and soak up some of the dead space in my liner. I really think skiers get far superior liners compared to us snowboards. But thank you I'm going to experiment with some things and see if I can alleviate my boot pain. Have you tried remind insoles? They aren't the firmest thing but they have cushion and support. Is firmer better?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@thesneak281 too squishy can create movement. Foot fatigue can not always simply be resolved with more cushioning, but rather with better support of the foot overall. If there are no actual foot issues, just go with the most comfortable foot beds. Never tried Remind myself.

[@thesneak281]

Thank you, I just saw the end of the video with the volume and that's what I am experiencing I believe. I'm going to play around with foam sheet and see what I can come up with. Thank you!

[@martinbailly573]

Too bad I don’t live in Fernie, because I certainly would pay you a visit to fit my boots . You rock Lars ! Thank you for the info , I will be getting c shape foam heel cup to help with my heel lift .

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I'd definitely try to help you out! :-)

[@taylorash45]

Hey Lars apreciate the video series. With new proper fitting boots, double boa, Intuition liners and super feet insoles do you suggest heat molding with any sort of heel locks in place or start with no heel lock inserts and ad later if necessary? I get to ride about 10 days a season. Thank you

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks Taylor! Always heat mould without any additions. Then add J-bars or whatever else you need later. Just the footbeds have to go into the heated liner before putting it on. Hope that helps!

[@nemdawg6342]

Hey Lars, I just got a pair of intuition liners and I also ride Insanos. I was just wondering, you said you took out the Intuition liners’ lacing, did you string the boots’ internal lacing through the liners too? I ask this because If I just put the liner in and try to tighten it, even when the clip is closed the liner loosens.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@nemdawg6342 my liners are just sitting under the internal lacing of the boots. I don’t have that problem. No harm in leaving the actual intuition lacing on the liners though.

[@davidmcfall5926]

Lars, I have been thinking about boots and wonder why folks do not talk about boot quivers the way that some people have board quivers (besides the economic limitations). I am thinking about getting a dedicated carving board and it seems to make sense to have a stiffer, more responsive boot. However, for powder days a more forgiving boot also makes sense. One could compare the K2 Taro Tamai for that Japanese snowsurfing mode in deep powder vs. a Burton Driver X for committed turns on corduroy. Your thoughts?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Good call !!

[@jessehill3780]

This is a great video and nice to see I am not the only person to struggle with low volume feet. I’ve basically found Salomon to be the only brand with low enough volume to fit me and even then they changed a little since my last ones and I had to add shims and superfeet to take up room. Seems they all keep going more and more volume, I hope I’m not going to have to add stacks of shims and foam in the future.. heard good about the ride boots too but couldn’t find anywhere to try them.

[@eedom69]

Yeah tried on a lot of boots in the last year or so and I found the ski company boots like K2, Ride and salomon to be some of the lower volume boots.

[@ANETOKILLE]

Thanks Lars, this info is gold for us with bunions. One question about your intuition liner size. Which size intuition liner did you order for your insanos 10US? I wear Ride Fuses size 27 (9US) with an aggressive performance fit (one finger or less in shell fit). I am considering the liner you ride with tongue, dual density, low volume 9 mm (I don't think medium or high volume will fit in my shell). Which liner size would you recommend for my 9US Fuses? Many thanks

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Likely a 27. Measure your foot like I show in the 'right boot size' and 'functional waist width' videos. That's your Intuition size. Depending on liner model you go 0.5 up or down in size. But your boot won't fit more than a 27 LV or 26 MV, I think.

[@xbttrader8451]

I got really bad foot pain from my NOW Select Pro bindings when I switched over from Burton Genesis. I managed to solve it by taking the toe straps of my Genesis and fitting them with the NOW ratchets. Also worked with my Union Force bindings 🤙🏼

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

The Genesis straps are all about comfort. Great to hear you've found what works for you. For me they stretch too much when getting onto my toe edge - but that stretch is also the comfort... hahaha... :-)

[@noamkurtis1]

Love your videos, I learn so much from you ! In regard to the aftermarket insoles (Superfeet, etc..) how do you size these in regard to your liner/boot? Do you expect your insole to take up the full length of the liner, or do leave a little room for your toes to extend past the front foot portion of the insole ?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@noamkurtis1 thanks for the kind words!! You wanna take the OG insole out of the boot and trace around it on the new insole. Then cut to the exact same size. Don’t leave any room. The sole will be sliding around!! Good luck!

[@noamkurtis1]

Understood. Thanks so much !

[@LassePed]

Hi Lars. I am one click away from buying Intuition liner for my 32 lashed. Noticed we have similar feet/leg build. Should I go for HV or LV, as you did ?, have you always used LV ?. Thanks in advance and thank you for spot on content, delivered in a clear and understandable maner.👍👍😃. Kind regards. Lasse

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks for the kind words. It depends on the shell fit, as I explain in part one of this series, buy the right boot size... Have you watched that? If not, it's helpful! You might be in the wrong boot to start with.

[@LassePed]

You are so welcome 👍. I will watch it tonight, and see if I do have a wrong size boots. Keep doing what you are doing 🎯, and who knows, we might end on bumbing into each other on the mountains.🤜🤛.

[@addusernamehere]

Excellent video!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you kindly!!

[@Joeshmoe10114]

Hello my boots are a brand new and a pretty tight fit, should I wait for my boots to pack out before I use an insole? My feet are pretty flat

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@Joeshmoe10114 the insole will only replace the one that came in the boot. So technically it shouldn’t matter too much. See a shop and get a heat mould , that will help for a smoother start.

[@Dan-mm8eb]

Can you stuff the toe box of the boot if it’s for kids and that you want to size up just a half size or full size? It so, I hat material would you recommend. Thanks

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

That's a pretty common thing. Burton call the 'Room To Grow', and it's a footbed with an extra foam rand around the toes, which can be cut off to give more space. So yeah, some soft sheet of foam cut into a strip can work. Might be difficult to adhere into place, but surely can be done.

[@surfrico]

Fantastic series thanks.

[@davidmcfall5926]

Lars, you should have a Ph' D in boot fitting. Amazing video...

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Haha, thank you!! :-)

[@jimgrubb4790]

Thank you for the great video and thorough explanations! Do you by chance have links for the "L" and "C" pads? Or would you recommend visiting my local shop?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Sorry, I get the stuff from a wholesaler and I act as a dealer through the boot fitting I offer. So I have no idea where to get this. A good ski shop should be able to help.

[@richardbishop6752]

I have skinny calves and ankles. Recently I have been modifying the upper part of my boots with binding ratchets or ski boot buckles to get the very top of the boot to fit tighter. Previously I would have to over tighten the boot to get it to feel tight around my calf, but that would make the rest of my foot way too tight. I would love if boots came with a better way to tighten specific areas while being able to leave other areas looser. For now I think adding a buckle or ratchet at the very top seems to fix a lot of my issues. Shells can be modified to a degree as well.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I couldn't agree more!!! Unfortunately most snowboarders are literally scared of hardboots - although it would be so easy to make a hardboot that literally can be ridden in the park.... Ski mountaineering boots are only a step away.... I splitboard in Atomic Backland boots, and there's hardly any difference on the downhill.

[@therealcheb]

I don't suffer from heel lifting but I always felt that the bridge of my foot has plenty of space, should I try putting some fitting pads on the top of the bridge?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Maybe start with lifting the foot up by using thin insole shims under the actual insole.

[@dont4get2wipe]

3/4 length thermals is key!!

[@ekramhossain1982]

Do you replace the foot bed in the Ride Insano with aftermarket? I bought a Ride Trident, and it has impacto elite foot bed. How good are they?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@ekramhossain1982 I replace. Always. They’re all crap. 😎

[@Outcozo]

Lars, just discoverd your videos. Thanks for all the good infos and nerding out on all things snowboard. I have one question: where do you get those c- and l-pads in Europe? There does not seems to be a source to order them online.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Sorry, no idea!! Resort ski shops would likely be able to help out, if there's really nothing else. I have dealer accounts with some companies since I offer boot fitting as a service. I've never tried to order this stuff otherwise.

[@Outcozo]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel It seems like there is not really a demand for ordering this stuff online. I'll try to ask around in the local ski shops.

[@channin19]

Took the time to measure my ankle bone position. Using vans verse with the stock liners/attached ankle wrap. Noticed my ankle bones land well forward of the attached c wrap area. Otherwise boot well. Any tips?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Work it out with foam, or new liners. This is not that uncommon and can be quite the hassle...

[@user-fu2qc6cv7b]

Vids are rad! But could you tell me about the framed photo in the background? I'd love to get a copy!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahaha, that is a Craig Kelly shot. Photo taken by my friend Mark Gallup. Hit up Mark on Insta!

[@pontusgoth2582]

Hi Lars, Thanks for a fantastic channel! Im in the same category of riding style and hav been snowboarding for 36 years. I also cheered Lift cheer with Mats Drugge a few times. I Have a few Donek custom boards. I need some advice about liners. I have bought the K2 thraxis with 1 finger fit. The stock liner is crap to soft and i get pressure points from the wrist boa. What are the pros and cons of intuition wrap vs tong that you use? Why don't you like the high-density version over the dual-density? I understand that the high density will give a bit more stiffness but how much? Is it so much more comfy with the dual density that it is worth it over the added stiffness? There are no retailers in Stockholm selling Intuition liners so It needs to be right from the beginning when I order from Canada. Best regards Pontus

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

The foam stiffens up in the cold. Dual density is clearly more comfy. They're plenty stiff enough for me, but that's quite subjective. With a 1 finger fit you want the 9mm low volume version.

[@pontusgoth2582]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel thanks Lars! Any thoughts about the wrap version vs the tung? pros and cons

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@pontusgoth2582 completely subjective. Skinny ankle bones usually do better with tongue style.

[@pontusgoth2582]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel okej! thanks I ordered the tour wrap made for Europe line from Germeny.

[@teodorturkovic5773]

If u like insanos so much, i was really wondering what do you think about the ride tridents boots? and the third boa? if you had any experience, either way great videos:)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks man! There was something weird going on with the Trident and my foot. I had a pair for one single run a few years ago.... Nothing but overall discomfort. I can't tell you what it was. The boot is killer! It just didn't work for my feet.

[@MrVanLaden]

Hey Lars! Thanks for the GREAT video! I have a question for you. I have top of the line Salomon boots, with really good liners. I have really skinny ankles and I think low volume feet, and even with Salomon boots, that are narrow, sometimes my heels rise in the boots. I brought them to a ski service, to do some boot fitting. They fit ski boots, mostly. I thought to fix them, they would add a sheet of fitting foam on the external of the liner, but they opted instead to add a 4mm wedge only under the heel, and to put a new insole on top of that. So a little bit different on the shim you added in your liners, that raise all the foot. The wedges raise only the heels, in my case. So, in this case, they removed some space in height in the boot, so the feet and ankles are placed higher in boots and they should stay locked better. Is it a good solution? Bacause now my riding position in the boots have pratically the toes sitting a bit lower than the heels. Do you see issues with this? Thanks!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great question! It is a solution to the issue, but as you said, it raises the heels. I would opt for external C-pads or J-bars instead. They sell them in ski shops. Not overly expensive. Salomon changed their last a while back. They were MY BOOT BRAND forever: narrow, aggressive heel pocket, wider in the toe box.... Then they reversed that suddenly.... Heel lift galore for me! Changed to K2 and Ride boots. Still need J bars, but much better liners than Salomon. This is a few years ago, so maybe Salomon changed again... no clue! Good luck!

[@jnfyeah]

Hi Lars, currently I'm trying out new boots, because my current ones are two and a half sizes too big! Can you believe. Now I'm trying regular boots and a wide version. Of course the wide version feels better, the regular one really really snug. Not sure with which one to go, any advice? I know that it's super difficult to tell over a short description on the internet. Thanks anyways!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Wow! 2.5 sizes! That's close to the record of 3 sizes that I've seen! Hahaha... :-) So glad you found out! Gonna be so much better from now on. Withe the width thing I can't help. Snug is good/better, but a wide foot needs space... Very personal! Good luck!!

[@user-ey2im6dl9p]

I have measured now Mondopoint 26 (EU41) on my bigger Foot My Nidecker Talon are Mondopoint 28,5 (EU44) 😂 I dont know what was going on with my local dealer and me… completely wrong size !! 😂 I noticed this far too late ..i allways put my binding straps and the Boas to the max, to compensate that problem, without any Chance.. Now i know how a Boot works and what size i shut try. Ordered Mondopoint 26 and 26.5 hopefully one of those fits well. Thank you so much Lars for this amazing Boot Series. Greatings from switzerland ✌🏼

[@jnfyeah]

@@user-ey2im6dl9p It will be a huge difference! Atleast it was for me :). New boot is very snug now but not uncomfortable, and it will pack out half a size over time.

[@TheStsch89]

Hey Lars Great video as usual. I played around with J and L bars in the past and now I'm using intuition liners for the second time once the stock liner is done. They definitely nicely stiffen up the boot and pack out areas pretty well so my foot feels way more locked in. What I've noticed both times is that they dont seem to do a very good job in locking down the heel. Is this something you've noticed too? Or do you generally attach j or c bars straight away. I'm in the weird situation were I have a borderline mid wide foot, narrow ankles and normal/slighty above average wide calfs. Curious to hear your answer

[@TheStsch89]

In addition: I'm riding the vans infuse and even if I crank the heel lock all the way down it doesn't do much as the combination of Liner and boot is just too rigid

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@TheStsch89 I have to attach J bars on anything and everything right out of the box.... Sometimes I'm adding to it as I go through the season... Nothing to worry about, just do it!

[@uradumby25]

I'm thinking I may need to get those liners. I like a tight boot fit everywhere except my toes. I have terrible circulation already. But I got new boots this season, used mondo point to size them because I bought way too big last year. But only had like 2 resort days on the new boots and two backcountry tours, then did a 8 hour avalanche class and I'm just now getting feeling back in my right big toe after almost three weeks (right foot is a little longer). I have at least a thumbs or index fingers distance between my heel and the back of the boot if I take the liner out and put my foot in so I don't think the shell is too small but I definitely have pressure on the top of my toe in these with their liners. DC is also pretty wack and told me I void the warranty if I get them heat molded lol

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Heat mould them with big toe caps! Space on top of the toes can mostly be dealt with that way. Depends on the liners.... Insane that DC told you that! Last pair of DC boots yu bought, I guess... I don't think they're built to last either. I tried on the T Rice ones once and couldn't believe how soft they were with DC stating that they're an aggressive boot. That was a while ago, though. Might have changed. Good luck!! Boot issues suck.... :-(

[@uradumby25]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel preach! Yes I think I do need to just heat mold em. Boot pick is the hardest part about all this gear stuff honestly

[@eedom69]

yeah i got a pair of ride fuse boots with that wrap liner. it might be getting better but those left some bruising on my shins first few weeks and the liner distorts when it flexes causiing a pressure point. I didn't noticed till i took the liner out and stood in them. i think these are also getting a little big. one foot of mine measures a 9 on the brannock and the other an 8.5 but I've gone from 8.5 to 8 and now thinking i need a 7.5 with those Ride Fuse. what are the pros and cons of the wrap liner?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

It’s all entirely subjective.

[@nico2savoie525]

Hi, thanks for your vidéos. I've just bought Ride Insano too. Perfect sized 280mm for a foot 278mm. No pressure points felt during shopping. But first ride day was a bit tough as the toe part faced numbness. It was not disabling for riding but very uncomfortable as I could not move any toes. I had the feeling that my feet were just piece of hard wood. Do you think it will be better after few days ? As I am French, I apologize if my english is not accurate... Thanks for your help. 😊

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Get a heat mould with a toe cap. The boot is fairly low profile above the toes and can push down a bit there. Should go away with a heat mould and a bit more riding.

[@nico2savoie525]

​@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channelvery thanks for your reply. May I heat mould the stock liner or do I need to go for Intuition liner ? Because I had a Quick look and here in France, intuition liner is 250€... Almost boots price... 😢

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@nico2savoie525 The Ride liners are pretty nice in the Insano boots. They contain Intuition foam and will mould fairly well. No need to buy liners!

[@nico2savoie525]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel OK thanks very much... Appreciate you take time for me... If you come in French Alpes, I'll pay you a beer... 😂

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@nico2savoie525 I'm coming for that beer!

[@EmilyVidd]

I noticed you took the laces off of your intuition liners. Did you rig up another way to tighten them? I've been using the intuition fx race liner for about a year or so, and they look similar. The plastic cinch loosens easily, and my burton supreme boot has a second plastic cinch for the inner ankle harness. All these plastic parts and extra strings are aggravating. A plastic piece inside the boot seems so counter intuitive, but I didn't think about it because I blindly trusted manufacturer's design. I wanted an after market wrap style, but it is too high of volume for my boot. I try to position the plastic thingies higher up but they loosen easily. Just venting. Can you recommend anything? Several times I've been tempted to wrap velcro or something. I'm also disappointed in choices for women's boots. Burton's top of line stiffest women's boot is mediocre but I use it because it has a small profile. I will use small men's bindings but am afraid to buy men's boots. The highbacks on my men's bindings are stiffer, but they are actually a bit flatter than my women's, so they don't curve around the back of the boot as nicely. Even "stiff" women's bundings seem medium to me, so it's always a trade off. I've added things to the men's bindings to make a better connection around back of boot. Been carving decades. Hate the gender specific market in snowboarding. Have started "arts and crafts" modifications from advice of a friend. Wish the market for carving was based on rider size and rider's goals, not gender. Rant over 😂Precision carving makes it easy to feel the flaws in equipment. The solutions are in rider's hands, not always the company

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Agreed on the gear part!!! My liner laces are off, because my boot has that same heel hold harness in it, which does a much better job. That's all I do... Maybe take the liner lace out and add a velcro powerstrap around the top of the whole boot?! K2 actually make men's boots in pretty darn small sizes!! If you can get an Orton or Thraxis, that could be a good choice. Not sure about Ride in regards to small sizes. I totally hear ya! You should follow @saraprevite on Insta and get in touch with her. She shreds, is a friend of mine, and maybe together you can revolutionize the girls gear market! She's a hardgoods buyer in a shop, too. :-)

[@EmilyVidd]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel awesome tips, appreciate it!

[@raduplesea6150]

I have narrow feet too. What models do you say are good?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Ride and K2 are definitely narrower.

[@raduplesea6150]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I got my eyes on Ride Lasso Pro. Thx a lot. You're doing very good stuff here, keep it up! Cheers!

[@felix-antoinegodin8269]

so accurate 🙌

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thanks man!!

[@p_t_827]

What are the downsides of wrap liners in terms of snowboarding? Hard entry?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

No downsides. Entirely personal preference.

[@_one_trick_tony_]

Great info/detail about shape in relation to turn feeling Lars! How would the cheater handle a heavier rider on steep/icy terrain From your next door neighbour @castle

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Wrong video, my friend! 🙂 But happy to answer: A friend of mine is 6'3" and 190lbs and rides his Cheater 170W as his allmountain everyday board. He carves like a madman, and the board is happy to do so. That is all I can say. Carving is a lot about rider ability, too. The thick centre of the Cheater handles a heavier rider well. Hope that helps!

[@_one_trick_tony_]

Lol whoops yes it does help!

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hey, did you end up trying a Cheater at all? If yu come to Fernie, I'd have a demo, for sure.

[@_one_trick_tony_]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel hey thanks a ton! I’ll let you know if i do, that would be great!

[@LagmasterB]

Which Superfeet model are those?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

They don't exist anymore. The were called 'Superfeet Red'. A winter model with reflective foil under the toes for a bit more warmth. They're different now and called 'Winter Thin' or 'Winter Comfort'. Quite honestly, I like the old ones better.... Bummer!

[@LagmasterB]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I currently use Spenco Total Support Max. They’re excellent for gait/pronation control. They have a nice contoured heel cup as well. My physical therapist recommended Superfeet because they have an even more contoured heel cup. I’m going to get the Run Support High Arch and All Purpose Support High Arch. I’m focusing on lower cushion thickness models. That’s what the bottom of the liner should provide, in theory, along with impact elements of the sole of the boot. I went from Burton Ions as my last pair. Phenomenal boot. Got a good deal on Vans Verse. Got a second pair for split boarding. I will say that the footbeds of these Vans are quite supportive, if not a little too thick. On the bottom of footbeds, there’s a semi-rigid plastic that wraps all the way around ankle pad to direct forces inward, and that plastic goes all the way forward, up under the arch. After a heat moulding, I will say that they’re the most secure and responsive boots I’ve ever had. I also seem to have an ideal “Vans foot shape”.

[@LagmasterB]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Also, yeah, I see them. They look no different than run support. No more foil. Lame.

[@timhunt7155]

My ankle bone does not sit in the pocket flush and the j bar is running across it. Only in my right foot, left ankle bone. Can this be fixed? It’s gives me moderate pain by end of day

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@timhunt7155 that’s a difficult one. Some people have cut away material on the outside of the boot liner right in that area to create more space.

[@timhunt7155]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I’m trying to stretch liner as it’s a wrap one. So hope fully eventually will get over

[@euqat]

Your rock sir

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Thank you kindly! :-)

[@patricevilleneuve5547]

Hi, can you give me links where I can find your ajustement stuff... L and J bar , butterfly and others... need do do by myself😅 no local Shop have item.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

You will have to google this, because I get it from wholesale suppliers for dealers only... I'm certain the internet will be able to sort you out. Sorry!!

[@rec1pher]

Why wouldn’t you heat mould your boots with your normal snowboarding socks on?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Taking up less space by wearing a super thin sock will leave the liner less compressed. Once in the boot with normal socks, it's a nice, snug fit, because the sock is thicker. We're not talking anything majorly noticeable... It's just that little extra, and you can do it this way or not. Depends on the desired fit, i guess.

[@rec1pher]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Perfect, thanks :)

[@蔣承達-q2z]

If my left big toe keeps jamming into the front of the boot during hard carves, is that a fitting issue or too soft of a boot flex issue? I wear a 32 tm2 with a double boa. Broken in for 1 season. And the top boa comes loose after every other hard charge or carve. (I ride +18 -9 regular)

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

That could be too many things.... Sorry, no short answer. A boot that doesn't come lose may help... But maybe your boots are simply too small.

[@蔣承達-q2z]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel thanks for the guidance! I consulted my local shop afterwards and am guessing together that there might be too much room above my toes - leading them to shift up during toe side carves and jam down into the top-front of the boot. Going to take the boots in and see if the shop can work out a remedy for it.

[@valeriogiajvia165]

i have a thirtytwo soles where they put ywo line with 8,5 and 9 size, i'm suppose to cut the sole's 9 part to make the sole precise for 8,5?

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I guess so. Not sure I fully understand what you're talking about. Sounds like a mistake from the factory, I guess. Cutting down an insole is not a problem.

[@valeriogiajvia165]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Under the insole there are some lines to cut , where one marks 9, and the other marks 8. I can't upload the picture here

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@valeriogiajvia165 you shouldn't have to cut anything on a new boot with the OG insoles in it. If they don't fit, just cut them, or contact Thirty Two beforehand.

[@UncIe_Drew]

Ok, the red superfeet... what are those? Where did you get the footbed pad to help fill the boot? I've just used foam, been riding green superfeet for 20 years now. 😉

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@UncIe_Drew all this stuff is available in a good ski shop with a boot fitter. The red ones have been substituted by a new red winter model.

[@dont4get2wipe]

Lame I didn't know my 32 and k2 boots were only partly intuition! The process for buying a straight up intuition liner looks like a nightmare though I would never bother with that

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

I hear ya! It is pretty straight forward to get the right Intuition liner, though. And the company is super helpful, if you need any help.

[@dont4get2wipe]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I suppose contacting the company would make sense. I was overwhelmed by how many liner choices they have, no idea which are for ski boots and which are for snowboard boots. Different thickness and all sorts of variables. Then since they’re so expensive I’m paranoid they wouldn’t fit my boots. I figured I was being clever by buying new boots with intuition liners in them

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@dont4get2wipe they changed the line this year!! You can now choose between tongue vs. wrap liner; then between dual vs. high density, then pick the right volume for your shell fit. If you can measure your foot in cm and then tell me how many fingers you can fit in behind the heel when standing in the boot's shell touching the front with your toes without curling them, I can tell you which volume you need (low 9mm, medium 12mm, high 15mm). You order the liner in your foot's cm length in that needed volume. Dual density is quite a bit nicer against the skin and gives it more of a snowboard boot feel, so that's almost a no brainer.

[@vajona3894]

Bought one pair of boots, never did any of this and my feet are great while wearing them. If your boots hurt your feet, you bought the wrong boots. return them and get something else. That is simple

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Hahahaha, that’s funny! So you don’t think that you’re simply in the right size by accident and other people aren’t as lucky as you are? So it’s pointless to give advice on how a snowboard boot should fit, because you didn’t need advice to end up with a great boot? Well, I guess that’s one opinion to have. I’m glad your feet are happy!

[@vajona3894]

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I tried on others. they didn't fit. I didn't buy them. Just like normal shoes. It isn't a opinion; rather a fact. If the boot doesn't fit don't buy it. simple.

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

@@vajona3894 ok. I’ll pass that on! 👍

[@HauntedSheppard]

So tell me, I have two vastly different feet in shape but also differ in size by half a size. Following your advice I would never be able to buy any boots, because every boot will be ill fitted to either one of my feet.

[@vajona3894]

@@HauntedSheppard Imagine anyone believing your drivel...