THE BOYS Season 4 Episode 8 Ending Explained

[@BrainPilot]

What a finale that was! What do you think Ashleys powers are going to be? Let me know your thoughts!

[@NephritduGrey]

Mayonetta hair powers. So they probably show her in a hairsuit as costume in the future xD (which given it's her will look closely like Mayonetta's black catsuit.

[@generaltiberiusxx2884]

Well, the next season is where Billy Butcher and Homeland will die but I also believe Billy Butcher will commit genocide against the sups and unleash the virus leading to the death of many sups I don’t believe the virus will be strong enough to kill Homelander but it could be enough to kill his son, and I believe his son will die in the final season as well because if you saw the Billy Butcher killed Newman it showed that the darkness completely took him over and now he’s likely to seek to completely destroy all sups but there’s no doubt that Gin V and the boys will likely be bridge together in the final season as well of the boys it’s going to be interesting

[@albdamned577]

shes gonna definitely be a monster, based on the comments she said to A-Train. im thinking something like The Thing from the incredible 4.

[@Pmartz3]

They changed the name of the episode

[@God_emperor_Doom]

10:44 boss biech baby, she can do anything she wants whenever she wants. I honestly hated starlight's arc the most. Other than her everyone (except for peak)had a pretty good wonderful arc.

[@kevz2474]

The scene with Hughey and MM trying to play it off with the shifter had me cracking up.

[@hateque84]

MM’s smile had me dead😭

[@yanosneverloses1147]

“Yep, that is a thing, that we did”

[@Kspice9000]

Nah shows how little they would last in the real world. Dudes have been Cia agents for atleast 4 years and they still can't make basic lies.

[@itsboyaknow]

I thought it was ridiculous that, with all the time they were doing that, they absolutely should have and could have told the president to get down, covered him and also attack the shifter. Even more so since Hughie noticed things were off about Annie for days.

[@CornholioPuppetMaster]

That damn hand twitch gave them away 😂 get that man a Xanax

[@kevz2474]

Hugie gave a damn good speech only for Butcher to scuttle it lol

[@rodddwaze5086]

I blame Ryan lmaoo

[@quaderex3420]

@@rodddwaze5086 Except Butcher planned to imprison Ryan from the start. He gave up to Kessler after his phone call to Hughie

[@deepakbisht4957]

​@@quaderex3420Not the entire truth. He cares about Ryan that's why when Solider boy was fighting against Ryan then for just that moment he worked with Homelander to stop Solider boy. I still don't get it why Butcher Stopped Solider boy 🤦🏻. Soldier boy had a chance to make Both Homelander and Ryan normal and after that he could have saved Ryan and kill Homelander if he really wanted to take the revenge from Homelander...

[@glianonimi602]

​@@deepakbisht4957 because the blast from soldier boy can instantly kill, like he did with the scarlet witch or something idk her name

[@Basedbrawler]

@@glianonimi602Crimson Countess, and Maeve survived the blast but simply lost her powers, Homelander and Ryan are way stronger so they should be able to survive it also

[@WesternXC]

The Boys are officially in their Endgame phase.

[@Bentheminor1847]

Infinity war vibes

[@niguccine4942]

@@Bentheminor1847i deadass got chills when they straight up killed Victoria, shit went 0 to 100 rq

[@BorotoLevi]

fr idk we can still see MM in the next season

[@VajaOzge]

But what if supes actually win? Imagine that ending

[@Seasixk]

@@VajaOzgethat would suck. Not even just on some happy ending shit but all this work for not

[@user-nv9wt5es4x]

"WHAT THE FUCK" "HOLY SHIT" "WHAT??!" were my most said words in this episode

[@CUZUMofficial]

same

[@IntoTheVillain_]

The ending made me scream

[@Mr.sost78]

my pops came into my room at 7 am telling me to stfu.

[@Lren-ib2lm]

Audible gasps in the office… got a few looks lol

[@thechillflame]

The dude scene from spiderman nwh is literally me rn.

[@Zyniege]

Victoria got killed first before A-train or Ashley . Wild

[@edit_bee]

Just to show off butcher's powers

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

It's not wild that she died before A-Train. Dude is the fastest person on the planet. Who can realistically do anything to him if he's able to see it coming?

[@guymoore3794]

Ashley did die first though wdym, she hot shishkababed

[@PewPewShootEmUp]

Anytime A train sees someone he can run to the other side of the world in 10 seconds

[@Heatblast1221]

She had to go, we all knew that

[@drogramadanjohnson1061]

Neuman died so Marie can take her place, they kinda set that up in Gen v

[@BrainPilot]

Fair point!

[@rendydevilzz]

I was also thinking the same. I think Marie got same powers like Neuman, head exploding, parts exploding, hell maybe even whole body exploding, but with even more possibilities, like blood bending, blood manipulation, blood sensing, who knows whats the limit?

[@Rejii16]

@@rendydevilzzit’s blood control but they need to channel it. Tbh though Marie has an advanced level of it, it seems. We’ll see in 2 years 😅

[@BC21beats]

@@rendydevilzz I think they're similar but not exactly the same Marie seems to have more finer control but doesn't seem like she can buff herself like neuman can homelander's laser knocked her out instantly

[@olivergray3808]

​@@BC21beats I would say that homelander dialled down his laser vision on Neuman, he didn't intend to kill her, only to show how durable she was because she is a supe. By my rationale Marie may be even more powerful than Neuman as it appeared to me that homelander indeed wanted to kill her at the end of gen V

[@kevz2474]

Butcher in full villian mode. Sister Sage is like a kid in candy land....she is going to be a problem lol

[@krishk69]

Why isn't the butcher seeing Becca's hallucinations anymore??

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah Sister Sage was frightening in those closing moments. I thought she was playing a game with Neuman but clearly not. She is evil to the core!

[@harrymitchell3885]

@@krishk69she represented the best parts of him in his mind, now he doesn’t need that/ see that in himself she disappeared

[@user-om2kp6ug7j]

@@krishk69 Because both hallucinations were the supe cancer, first he used Becca to keep Butcher alive and connect to him, then later on it swapped to the "evil" version to convince him of collaborating.

[@DaChristianYute]

@@kevz2474 I think she’s the worst character actually

[@evansonhakeem]

If Soldier Boy returns, he's likely to kill both Homelander and The Boys. Butcher betrayed him, and he couldn't care less about Homelander not Ryan. He's going nuclear to destroy everyone.

[@jphzazueta]

I'm expecting him to get mind-controlled by Cate

[@firstlast9846]

I honestly don’t think he’ll give much of a shit.. he only seemed to care about getting revenge on Payback.. i can see him probably developing a “Grandfather / Grandson” bond with Ryan - cos rn Ryan is indifferent to The Boys and HL too.

[@a.k.rundizbeat3212]

Homelander might just try to find a way in getting Soldier Boy's blood in order to deal with his aging problem.

[@john_doe_smith]

@@a.k.rundizbeat3212true

[@Jollyjose251]

He’s gonna join Homelander

[@DaChristianYute]

Butcher watched Attack on Titan and listened to Erwin. To rise above monsters you have to become one yourself-Erwin Smith.

[@reesetwist2290]

Good one. 👏

[@Kagutsuch1i]

Ngl. I liked his old powers better I thought he was just gonna laser the fuck outta Neuman. OH SPOILERS BTW

[@FriendlyGhost-rf7tq]

the biggest monster there is

[@unityforall-md4fl]

That's one way to do it, but in Naruto, instead of causing everyone pain, like Itachi. At the end, Itachi changes his way of causing massive pain , instead, more align with Narutos way of understanding and uniting pain to approach life.

[@opsoo2229]

Which is crazy cause Hughie literally said in this episode "If we wanna defeat the monsters we have to be more human"

[@sumantanantha1294]

BRO ATLEAST KIMIKO AND FRENCHIE HAVE FINALLY REKINDLED THEIR ROMANCE

[@TrueKivan]

and that make their last scene hit even harder, looked like the face of betrayal

[@Shome2049]

Once a Fegot Always a Fegot

[@hidyy_8143]

​@@TrueKivanI wouldn't consider it betrayal, Frenchie was getting mind fucked

[@MorkusPorkus]

Only good thing that came out of the episode to be ruined

[@Kspice9000]

And all it took was season of gay nonsense filler bullshit.

[@NamNguyen-jk1yn]

The look from Homelander on SoldierBoy is pure envy. Soldier Boy is not aging

[@gamerzay69]

@@NamNguyen-jk1yn Yeah which I wonder why?

[@KASKETXX]

@@gamerzay69he took original v

[@gamerzay69]

@@KASKETXX is it stated to be better than current compound v?

[@ScreenMasters369]

​@@gamerzay69 Yeah, the new V is less refined

[@rdx-ww2tj]

I thought it was because like Stormfront they were given it as an adult and that was why they didn't age after

[@kevz2474]

The season started out slow, but it ended strong. Season 5 is going to be epic.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah those final two episodes were incredible! Such a great finale

[@Jollyjose251]

@@kevz2474 Episode 6 is the worst episode ever

[@applepie1272]

​​@Jollyjose251 nah I think its that episode with that caterpillar orgasm clones. I think S4 really started off so poorly (woke-ish) but it did end off really great.

[@jacoblyon3652]

@@applepie1272stfu with that brain rot all they made fun of was moron conspiracy theorists

[@Athenasblaze]

Actually the whole season has been trash

[@_kelso9959]

What Butcher did to Vic was tragic for all the right reasons. Not only for her, but him as well. He fell back into the cycle after trying so hard.

[@sunsetman22]

I honestly thought for a second that we'd get the on-screen equivalent of the two actors' real life relationship. great twist though, and, just like you said, tragic for all the right reasons.

[@Valhallen002]

Nah, he's done with bullshit.

[@Miraale199]

@@Valhallen002 Exactly well said Sir 🫡

[@MyObessiveDirector]

I dont think Ryan is going to go down the mini Homelander route tbh. I think the kid was just extremely conflicted and Mallory and Butcher dropping all that info on him including how he was conceived before forcing him to choose to become a weapon against his bio dad was a lot for one kid to deal with

[@nelsonmercadojr2749]

Agreed. Should’ve let him go. I know they are running out of time but you got to give the kid space to process it

[@bio-hazzard1233]

Nah he was completely numb to the cia woman’s death compared to how distraught he was when he accidentally killed the stunt guy

[@cameronferrell5722]

all they needed to do was let him go. If he just went back to the Tower, even not inside it but just using his vision to peer inside, he would see exactly that they were right and he would've come back.

[@MyObessiveDirector]

@@bio-hazzard1233 some people react emotion to see to trauma at first. I'm sure we'll see him grappling with all that information in Gen V or in season 5

[@jasmintea8825]

it was eerie how he didn't react to killing lady cia tho

[@miguelsantos-cd9tu]

Butcher made a huge mistake by not telling Ryan, truth about Homelander sooner.

[@Jollyjose251]

Ryan is just evil, telling him would’ve done nothing

[@yousef-eq8zw]

​@@Jollyjose251yea your right the seeds were planted early on in the season

[@omokoyejoakinfenwa4453]

@@Jollyjose251 Ryan ain't evil he just misguided and conflicted.

[@Jollyjose251]

@@omokoyejoakinfenwa4453 Ryan is old enough to know Homelander is evil and he just murdered someone in cold blood, does that not sound evil to you

[@DannyIsKing]

You can't dump info like that on a kid in that way and not give him time or space to deal with it

[@markobolo4465]

I think ashley would beome medusa she has no hair and something burst out of head

[@BjornV1994]

That is actually an incredible interesting idea, Ashley becoming some sort of Medusa would be fantastic and rather fitting.

[@Harith-el6nm]

i imagine her become ripoff hulk or goblin loll

[@karadanianoI]

makes sense. her hair representing her self esteem and how she lost it to keep her job. the new hair coming out from her scalp would be a product of spite and hate, showing how she lost her innocence

[@SQOUREE]

Imagine if Ashley will kill Homelander in the end 😂 Arya and Night King type of shit 😂😂

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@BjornV1994 or she goes bald and ends up like the leader

[@a.k.rundizbeat3212]

I can already tell that Starlight might be the one to recruit the Gen v kids and the other cross-over might show the aftermath of the Martial law's effect reaching Mexico in the Boys upcoming spin off series.

[@NephritduGrey]

Though didn't Moreuo (or what her name was) have a bond with Neuman? So the Gen V kids could also be quite against the Boys too, or at least be neutral.

[@yahymusic]

@@NephritduGrey i dont think that can be called a bond cuz they talked for a few minutes brah

[@JoeRedfield21]

Ooooh this is interesting, she probably will make an apperance in Gen V season 2 finale

[@a.k.rundizbeat3212]

@@JoeRedfield21 Exactly, but some might say Ashley could be the one helping them too since she was saved by the Gen V kids in the finale.

[@rsync9490]

​@NephritduGrey When marie discovers that the virus is still out there, she will understand that Neuman was bad news.

[@hope757]

I dont necessarily see Ryan going back to Homelander. Yes, killing Mallory was clearly a step in the evil direction, but also he clearly held himself back. It MIGHT have been an accident. Even if it wasn’t, that doesnt magically make what Mallory told him go away. He knows she was telling the truth about Homelander. I think Ryan is stuck in an unknown 3rd position. Doesnt care about humans anymore, but also doesnt want Homelander to be his dad anymore.

[@gamerzay69]

Yeah but what was she doing trying to practically detain Ryan? Dude gave her plenty of warning to let him go, Idk how evil that really was.

[@ibnsabeel9466]

I don’t think his intention was to kill her. They dumped a bunch of 💩 on him at once and then immediately started to manipulate him. I don’t understand how being raised/trained by the CIA would be good for Ryan. You know ???

[@coomslayer6996]

@@ibnsabeel9466I agree with you here. Mallory was just being too overwhelming for Ryan

[@matenzo]

​@coomslayer6996 she also threatened to gass him, imprison him etc...

[@AmariahKemet]

Ryan does not know how to control his powers yet. It’s either 0 or 100.

[@redox4088]

I don't think Butcher made it worse. At best teaming up with Neuman would contain the problem not solve it. I personally think Butcher's way is the only actual solution.

[@NephritduGrey]

Yeah, but not everyone tends to agree with final solutions, eh?

[@yousef-eq8zw]

​@@NephritduGrey genocide is still wrong ( obviously ) but Ryan was the only thing keeping kessler at bay as soon as Ryan killed malory both the possibility of Ryan killing homelander and not hating super long gone 😅

[@omokoyejoakinfenwa4453]

@@yousef-eq8zw Yep I still want hold out hope for Ryan but I feel he's lost cause at this point. Ik in S3 Butcher pushed him away for his safety but he really did try to make amends this season and keep Becca's promise by looking out for him but Ryan killing Grace has pretty much tipped the point for Butcher.

[@Scorpy666]

​@@yousef-eq8zw collateral damage =/= genocide.

[@peterpiperpipedyourpickle8153]

@redox4088 without Butcher killing Neuman, Singer wouldn’t have been arrested and Homelander never wins control of the government. Saying Neuman at best would only contain the problem is an understatement. She is still a powerful character that is strong enough to withstand Homelander’s heat vision and she’s debatably as strong as Kimiko and Starlight. In conclusion Butcher put The Boys in a checkmate position after his promise to keep Ryan safe was compromised by watching Ryan kill two people that Butcher held dear.

[@FerociousPaul]

I wanna say, I think Erin Moriarty had a lot of fun with this episode. Her performance as the shapeshifter was pretty great. You could tell she was having fun being a bad guy

[@catalinpopa8908]

She really is a great actor

[@sealake7935]

Homelander and Butcher are two sides of the same coin. They both want death and destruction, and they’re both completely losing their minds. Ironically, now that Butcher has this power, he’s really no different from Homelander

[@yahymusic]

HL is a villain, butcher is just antihero

[@sealake7935]

Arguably, Butcher is also a villain. He kidnapped a man, chopped his leg off, and held him captive to get what he wanted. He was also willing to kill a baby with an explosive just to make Homelander upset. (The Scene where Homelander kills Madelyn)

[@wdeltag]

​@@sealake7935 Nah, he's still an antihero. Antiheros are characters that pursue a heroic goal through the means of a villain, whatever those may be

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah their mirrored arcs are incredible to watch

[@sergeantD14]

@@wdeltagnope he’s a villain fuck both butcher and homelander

[@harveyyarvey6590]

Can't wait for Super Ashley vs Homelander

[@HombreDufff]

She will turn into Gollum 😂

[@kimbaldun]

I think she'll be the sister sage of The Boys

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@kimbaldun to be fair hughie has has a right to not want to accept her even if she didn’t know hughie is still traumatized

[@quazimawofeso4732]

I think homelander want to use soldier boy to stop his aging He want to experiment on him and I think it sage's idea She is the smartest person, found a cure cancer, so curing homie's aging using soldier boy should not be much of a difficult task

[@kdizzle901]

He’s stupid and Soldier Boy hates him

[@chrissuponcic6277]

The difficult part is finding needles the can peirce sb veins, no blood sample nothing to study

[@margaretwordnerd5210]

Sage as a child could have cured her grandmother if she had resources. If given resources, I wonder what Sage might cook up for a V-cancer turned into an evil Kessler?

[@Thecoffinofmari_andsunny143]

Neuman dying was probably the most disappointed I've ever been since throughout the whole series wasted character, Grace dying was so random 😭 oh well gonna have to wait years for the new season

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Completely agreed fellow Omori enjoyer

[@asnor7588]

Neuman dying is ok cause butcher would 100% do that at this point (even if he fucked up with Ryan imo.) Sage predicting Neuman death, well that is truly bullshit.

[@MclovinMclove]

S4 writing in a nutshell

[@litneyloxan]

Tell me you missed the deeper meaning without telling me

[@c1umzy598]

@@litneyloxanwait what was it

[@peterpiperpipedyourpickle8153]

I’m personally excited for Ashley’s power up reveal, either she’s powerful enough to hold her own and get some character development or she might become handicapped and get killed off pathetically (after all she is still on the “kill list”)

[@stravospelitis-zw2sp]

2:30 I think Ryan didn't mean to kill her he is just not in total control of his powers. He ran away like that because he was afraid of Butcher. But all the clues point at him being bad, I just wish that in the next season he forges his own path based on what his mother taught him.

[@bobbywilliams4438]

Basically finally becoming the one true "hero"

[@grahamgreene4141]

Ryan is a lost cause bro

[@fremper9230]

no ryan meant that she was about to kill him and ryan looked seriously angered their and you can see that he pushed in a faster speed aswell

[@KazTheGoat12]

At first I thought he just knocked her out, but then I realized wow…he really killed her 😮

[@LILREMAlNS]

having heart shaped box playing was such a good touch

[@asavelakuse6865]

Butcher is no longer listening to Becca. Comic book Butcher is out

[@BigMesh445]

Butcher really turned into a British slender man

[@krishk69]

Anticipating THE PEAKS season 5!!

[@blackdemonknight]

I feel Zoe won't be stuck in Red River for long, Stan Edgar is still on the lamb, if he catches news of Zoe being their he might still have some pull and can arrange for her to be secretly released into his care without alerting anyone.

[@mikailamod6831]

Her father is also alive

[@blackdemonknight]

@@mikailamod6831 True he is but he might still need Stan's help to get Zoe out.

[@MrGriff305-j7s]

The Gen V group is so powerful, but I enjoyed seeing Starlight fly away that fast. That was bad ass.

[@Mr.sost78]

I dead ass cried with the last butcher, malory and Ryan scene

[@kingquan3826]

Why

[@the5zero]

I feel like Ryan is gonna sit in a middle ground, since he has clearly lost trust in most of the people around him due to Mallory, and the information he heard about Flight 37 and everything else Homelander did will sit in his head rent free. I just don't see him turning fully with the supes, neither do I see him trusting anyone like The Boys.

[@leroyporter3801]

Did anyone else notice how Butcher started referring to himself as plural when talking to others? Also a theory on Ashley’s powers, she’s a capybara.

[@margaretwordnerd5210]

A fierce capybara.

[@CUZUMofficial]

It was fuckin' diabolical. I'd give it a 8/10

[@redox4088]

Last 10 mins 10/10 but the rest 8/10.

[@Sawanaep]

@@redox4088 agreed

[@Kspice9000]

It was fuckin weak ass greasy dogshit.

[@EndlessKnightmare]

The fact A-Train wasn't in the episode was confusing, but still a good episode 8.5/10

[@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle]

​@@EndlessKnightmareI hope they don't just make A-train vanish

[@IntoTheVillain_]

I’m so glad they went villain arc with butcher yes yes and yes so keen

[@squishingly]

man the moment with sage and homelander at the end was weirdly heartwarming…

[@KingSolomun]

This is that Infinity War setup for Endgame 🤯. What an episode 🔥🔥🔥🔥. New Butcher 🥶

[@Insomnia-Demon]

The ending with the Gen V kids coming in and fucking up Frenchie and Kimiko genuinely pissed me off after they had their sweet moment man..

[@yeahboy7465]

As Hughie once said..."AAAAAAAHHH WHAAT THE SHIT??"

[@God_emperor_Doom]

Honestly I feel bad for Frenchie and Kimiko. Plus how the fuk they know the whereabouts and rounded up the boys except for Butcher???

[@coomslayer6996]

I agree, how did they not come after Butcher? Maybe he successfully managed to escape them or maybe he killed whoever supe tried to kidnap him

[@God_emperor_Doom]

@@coomslayer6996 All I can do is wait for 2026 and S5 announcement. The finale would be GOATED

[@understanding77]

They probably did come after him, but he most likely killed whoever came after him

[@anthonypritchard2798]

Probably because he wasn’t with the boys after killing Neuman and taking the virus from Frenchie. Even if they tried tracking Butcher down I don’t think they wouldve been able to stop him after what we saw happen to Neuman

[@Daniel-cp2it]

Who else thinks that starlight flying off like a rocket makes her seem like she still has a lot of room to grow powerwise?

[@BrainPilot]

Definitely!

[@asnor7588]

I mean after that scene with soldier boy even the writers knew they had to buff her lol

[@randomone4832]

I’m calling it now, Starlight will realize she can draw power from the sun.

[@lucifermorningstar6527]

You know what? I agree with Butcher's plan. He should release that virus because of the threat it can pose to the entire world, regardless of whether the person is good or bad. Unfortunately, that is unlikely to happen. Also, Compound V will continue to exist even after the release of Virus, unless the series is detailed enough.

[@tvgerbil1984]

He only got one dose from Frenchie.

[@NephritduGrey]

I wonder how easy people can follow with final solution plans and call it a good thing. Like remember laser baby and the other infants? They'll die too and are quit innocent yet.

[@lucifermorningstar6527]

​@@tvgerbil1984 I meant those within the Vought Corporation.

[@rsync9490]

The Dean lady had an option to cause illness unto the host and temporarily depower them so supes can be aprehended. She chose to increase the lethality of the virus. There are always choices lightbringer.

[@hidyy_8143]

I think it's a pretty shit plan, it's like a classroom where everyone gets punished because of the bad apples

[@Pologlee]

Kimiko finally speaking made me scream 🤯😁

[@ghostwalkergames7707]

I know I’m late bro she was just getting back with Frenchie and now she’s ripped apart from him! Ahhhhh!

[@user-om2kp6ug7j]

I literally started heavily crying when she started talking, they really saved that little detail for so long over the seasons it was so impactful and made you feel it so much more!

[@TrueKivan]

Oh I didn't notice initially, had to rewatch the scene. Too much was happening at once. Kinda expected her to shout out "Yamero!" and not "No", means she thinks mostly in english.

[@Shome2049]

She will be dropping 5 minute monologues on woman empowerment, morality and patriarchy very soon.

[@gigakubica8793]

​@@Shome2049go out touch some grass pal

[@bakibalo]

Butcher was right to do that. Vic betrayed her dad a while ago, and now Homelander? She is nowhere near reliable enough to include in the team.

[@robtothejuice]

That’s kinda the point…neither is he..or Hughie…or Starlight (didn’t want her in at first just because she was a supe) or Frenchie really…(turning himself in) they’ve all made major mistakes and or weren’t trusted by butcher, but came to be over time. He didn’t even trust Hughie enough to hear out his plan and see if it was fair or made sense. Which it 100% did. This was sheer narcicism and power taking over. He couldn’t even hear out his best friend and just acted off impulse. (Like supes like homelander do)

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@robtothejuice I mean, regardless of who gets fucked over most of them have it coming

[@Sloppyseth]

I liked the scene where butcher cares much more about their homies than his son(ryan) when he let kesseler take control

[@Euro-GaNationalist-hv1on]

Ryan is not his son

[@filmbrat1]

victoria is wasted potential and her death was so silly and poorly written. felt very contrived for the sake of prolonging butcher & homelander’s deaths. great vid nonetheless (update: you’re never going to convince me otherwise, and it’s not your job to)

[@firstlast9846]

She should’ve been in this season much more.. and Butcher’s tendrils felt like a bit of a Deus Ex Machina for a problem as big as her.

[@filmbrat1]

@@firstlast9846 thank you! it was such a boring and forced way to get rid of her. they wrote themselves into a corner with her and her powers and threw it all at the wall at the end. such a disappointment she didn’t take anyone with her

[@danielburdisso1483]

Nah, it was satisfying to see her die, one of the worst characters in the show

[@king_jack77]

This was the proof of how strong butcher is🔥

[@Jollyjose251]

Her character had served her purpose, also Homelander and Butcher are the stars of the shows, why’d you think they’d die?

[@White_Wolf1068]

I think Maeve is working on something and possibly working with A Train and Sage. I feel like the phase 2 that Sage mentioned is something she's planning with Maeve since she's carrying around that journal with a drawing of Maeve on it

[@misterbickis]

OMG UR RIGHT!!

[@bobbywilliams4438]

You cooking with that theory

[@isaiahmercado_]

That is an interesting theory. We know Maeve is alive but without her powers. Even though Maeve hates Homelander so unless they're planning to kill him I'm not sure what they would both be cooking up.

[@MediocrMrFox]

I'm thinking Ashley will have some kind of Medusa type power, since so many powers are related to the person, so it'd be fully on brand for her to get a hair-related power, whether it be like Inhumans Medusa where it's prehensile hair, or the Greek Medusa with snake hair, or some kind of tentacle or bone, who's to say, but from the movement under the skin of her scalp, I'd say they HAVE to be doing something to do with the hair-loss

[@margaretwordnerd5210]

In the Dresden novels a character has long, flexible, prehensile blades for hair. Very effective in combat.

[@kevz2474]

Ryan irks my nerves. lol

[@nelsonmercadojr2749]

Me to. Big time. Like he can get the hell out of here

[@narckiller6561]

homelander tells him humans are playthings and he acts surprised he did horrible things

[@jockseethe9300]

We're probably gonna get an Ashley vs The Deep showdown in S5. We may also get a Butcher vs Soldier Boy rematch near the very end of the series. Either way this show is and will be one heck of an experience whether you like it or not

[@luckyowl6432]

Manic Sage is fantastic. In a scary way... like getting a glimpse of the real insane evil genius behind the facade. Same thing happened when talking to Victoria (RIP) about her grandmother. I really wanted everything to have been a grand plan by her so was happy by the reveal.

[@thenightmarefox]

Butcher got some Resident Evil Wesker Uroboros shit goin on.

[@lishiakin5636]

Basically all of the season 4's episode could be skipped except the 8 episode.

[@bobbywilliams4438]

Honestly

[@Deostroyer]

especially Frenchie Bisexual arc

[@nelsonmercadojr2749]

Yup. These story arcs this season went absolutely nowhere. Accept for the arcs that moved the main plot along

[@BrainPilot]

Episode 4, episode 7 and episode 8 were the best this season!

[@gleebybooer]

that would be dumb

[@MJ-py7dm]

Sage is the standout of this season. Her strategic brilliance, emotional intelligence, and manipulation skills have elevated the drama to new heights. Homelander is now entangled with her, faced with the choice of keeping her close or eliminating her, but who knows how he might change without her influence? If Sage leaves - he now knows he is nothing. I was initially skeptical about A-Train’s death this season, as many believed he needed to conclude his arc with his family. However, it worked surprisingly well. I’m also eagerly anticipating Ashley's rise in power-her insider knowledge of the Supes will be a game-changer next season. A special mention goes to the comedic duo of the season, Deep and Black Noir - their bromance made me chuckle. As for Ryan, it’s shocking to think he’d kill his beloved "Aunt" in cold blood. There was no regret in his eyes, no emotion. It seemed like his survival instinct kicked in. Despite this, I doubt he will side with Homelander. Raised by a loving mother and surrounded by people who cared for him, Ryan has no real motive to become like Homelander deep down. It's always a pleasure sharing insights with this channel - great job keeping up BP!

[@TrueKivan]

Yeah it is genuinely terryfying when you realise everything Homelander did was according to her plan because she could read him that well and be 10 steps ahead. When he though he was in control but he really wasn't. Thus when she says at the end that she always have his back would you trust and believe her, or assume this is just another part of her great design, with final goal impossible to fathom.

[@khaoss4024]

Her lack of emotional intelligence is unironically what caused most of the problems with her plan. She’s an asshole

[@jordannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

sage is definitely one of my more favorite villains of the series. the fact that she is doing all of this simply because ‘it’s fun’ is dangerous. she has literally caused the country to go under martial law and become ruled by supes solely because she wanted to see if she could. i LOVE her character lol.

[@alexmartin3143]

The part where she smeared cake on her face and had a power girl moment with Victoria was riveting.

[@asnor7588]

The only really strange thing here is her predicting Numan's death because the cause of that was unknown to her, that's for sure. I feel like she's the classic character that says "yeah that was my plan" even if random and unpredictable bullshit happened.

[@Ironman-ko5vw]

I wanna say a personal fuck you to all those who were so sure A-train was gonna die

[@accidentalmadness1708]

Even though season 4 isn’t overall as good as last season it does have the more exciting ending to me. I just kind of shrugged at the end of s3 but the end of this one has me so ready for s5 and mad I’m gonna have to wait like 2 years.

[@asnor7588]

This season is basically the opposite of season 3. It struggled but went out pretty good, even if some problems remain

[@randomwalker2134]

A-train didn't die.....yet.

[@XanVicious]

His arc is done, unless the deputized supes go after him.

[@zackhagos3677]

Maybe Starlight might team up with him. I mean, she did escape and who knows where she’s headed.

[@Ex4lted_]

You just want A train to die, shut up lol

[@Shway-Nays]

@@XanViciousi feel like they def will, cause he has a lot of dirt on the seven

[@jordannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

feeling like him dying would be cliche and boring idk.

[@mercilessforever]

I bet s5 finale goes like this. Butcher “newman’s” homelander rendering his lasers obsolete and his body immobile. Soldier boy enter frame and chest blasts butcher and homey causing them both to lose their powers. Butcher and homey fight as humans concluding in butcher caving in homelander skull with…a crowbar! Call me crazy I wouldn’t be surprised! Cant wait tho!

[@asnor7588]

I think butcher without powers instantly dies of cancer or worse

[@Psalm_23]

I think sage was talking about time and homelander aging. Homelander is not immortal and he will grow old and die. I think he is gonna experiment on soldier boy to try and get his immortality. That way in his head he will truly be a god.

[@captnmaico6776]

But do we know soldier boy is actually immortal? He was kept frozen by the sovjets, just like winder soldier. So maybe he did not age, beacuse his body did not real "live" When animals go into hiatus they also decrease their aging process by a lot.

[@funki4896]

​He wasn't frozen. He was held captive intoxicated with Novichok.

[@captnmaico6776]

@@funki4896 ah okay, so hes probably is somewhat immortal?

[@marquez4497]

@@captnmaico6776yeah probably the only weakness is the virus

[@lukareyes2288]

@@captnmaico6776Because Stormfront is 100+ years old

[@SuikodenPlayer]

counting down the 2 year wait 😿

[@chriserrickson1624]

its all good until you realize the whole season counts on sage knowing butcher's power and inner tumoil wich were unknown even to him, and on a lot of non sense situations that the series then tells us that were all into sage's plan... get outta here!

[@asnor7588]

​@@Snowfox-gmbut she somehow predicted Numan death, like wtf was that about?

[@casp512]

​@@asnor7588 I don't think she did, it was just something that was convenient for her.

[@JimmyMercado-eg2yo]

I believe that sage knows how smart butcher really is or rather dangerous he is

[@asnor7588]

@@JimmyMercado-eg2yo well ok but she had no way of knowing he was a sup or whatever he is know Without his powers there was no way for him to kill Neuman

[@davidrosenburg6319]

​@@asnor7588well she knew that they wanted to kill neumann so shes like hey use a ss(shapeshifter) and make it so dakota bob looks like he ordered her assasination (which he did just not like that)

[@JustBasicJoseph]

I hate how Sage just comes in always saying “it was part of the plan”. Absolutely stupid if you ask me

[@noblenormie1179]

They can do anything even if its totally random and claim IT WaS pArT of the plAn

[@aimanimran3010]

please don't have high expectations anymore to this show writers 😂

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Most ppl knew Sage had contingencies in place when she got fired. She accepted that arrangement from Homelander knowing full well he was an egotistical man child who always needed to feel like he was the smartest person in the room. She's not the smartest person on the planet for nothing, and ppl who were paying attention have been telling everyone all season that she was arguably the most dangerous supe of them all.

[@burnettghartey7117]

Well sage knew homelander wasn't smart enough to pull this off better her work in the shadows.

[@JimmyMercado-eg2yo]

Sage works because shes the smartest person on earth, it only makes you mad because intelligence like that is impossible for us to comprehend

[@mercilessforever]

I was too blown away to even notice kamiko spoke! She’s the best

[@seangould3664]

Pretty sure that was the Black Beauty from Supernatural that Butcher was driving at the end

[@bobbywilliams4438]

Good catch it looks like it

[@BjornV1994]

It is a fitting ending to this season, several good surprises in my opinion. Starting with how much of a master chess player Sister Sage proves to be. I was kinda disappointed when they unceremoniously seemed to dump her but seeing how it was all calculated in as a possiblity, really shows why she is the smartest person in the world. She moves pieces like no other and manage to keep track of all possible scenarios. Neumann's death came sooner than I expected, though they did work towards it the whole season in two ways: The Boys have been planning her assassination for quite some time, they have teased her death a few times AND they have been teasing Butchers V-ed up tumor the whole season. We know the moment that it killed Ezekiel that when it was finally revealed in its full form, it would be used to kill an important character. And seeing how they played Neumann in this last season, she fit both that bill as the one of a soon-to-be disposable character. The return of Cindy is also quite interesting, didn't expect her to return like that but good to see she isn't forgotten. Ashley taking V, can be interesting, the Medusa-idea I have read here in the comment section is a promising suggestion, though my first thought when in the direction of her being something like the Leader in Marvel. Other Ashley dying needlessly was cruel but on part with the general style of the series. And while I did like Frenchie and Kimiko finally admitting their feelings for each other, it does make feel Frenchie's arc this season even worse executed. I don't mind him trying with Colin but the way they handled it and wrote off a potential romance with Kimiko first, rubs me the wrong way. And did Jack Quaid park in Kripke's spot or something, Hughie really is having a very tough season... But overall, it was still a fun season, not The Boys at their best but it does set the stage for a fantastic finale season.

[@naiyar3573]

I really hope when Soldier Boy comes back he either fights against Homelander and Butcher or with Butcher again… anything but him and Homelander

[@burnettghartey7117]

One thing soldier boy hates is weakness. Butcher has shown that failing to deal with ryan and homelander.

[@God_emperor_Doom]

Can't wait for Soldier boy teaming up with Homelander and ryan and butcher unaliving the trio. I want to see what happens to Kimiko, Frenchie, Hughie, mm and starlight Can't for s5 💯🔥

[@Shimeih]

Man, I don't know why but Newman's death wrecked me a little. I really liked her character in the story

[@alley4126]

Can't wait for season 5, A train join the boys, Ashley with her new power, Maeve come back, Butcher is on adrenaline rush, Starlight finally has full access on her power!

[@everettenjeze6276]

Butcher is such a tragic character. All he wanted was for Ryan to be safe and for “the boys” to be safe but after Mallory being killed by Ryan it just confirmed his outlook on supes and how “with great power you will end up being a cunt”. Now his dark heart is now in the drivers seat LITERALY running the show. He will do absolutely anything to save the world from supes. He is now all in.

[@blackthor5517]

It’s always like that tho, we cannot be In a world where people got powers, people are messed up, one would always try to b HL. Can u imagine if G Khan had powers, geeez

[@everettenjeze6276]

@@blackthor5517 agreed

[@tsigaming9643]

I hate how the show glossed over Huey getting sexual assaulted multiple times

[@ssheeessh]

Yup then Annie blaming him for cheating when he got r*ped.

[@MENACE-km6bd]

Me too! It angered me that Annie was upset with him when what happened to him was SA. The writers are silly for not recognising the similarities between that scene and the scenes in WonderWoman that people were upset about (where her lover took over the body of another guy and she slept with him). Most people called is SA. You're telling me they wouldn’t call this the same?

[@tsigaming9643]

@@MENACE-km6bd they had the opportunity to make a statement and missed the mark so bad!

[@exynomeus9561]

Its ridiculous that starlight is mad lmao

[@blakebarn8739]

What if the writers are making a meta commentary about how we see the issue of male assault. Out of site of the other characters, out of mind of the audience.

[@Vendetta_64]

The one thing about this season that has confused me is the fact that butcher was staying on the good side and listening to becca, but everytime he would do that he would decline in health, and not be able to use his "powers" but everytime he listened to kessler its like he got healthier and he obviously had the ability to use his powers, which i guess what im asking is why is the "vision" of becca not helping butcher out more?

[@burnettghartey7117]

I think becca is the part of him still clinging to hope. But after seeing what ryan did, next stage is supe genocide.

[@landonstrong9686]

It is implied that the ‘kessler’ figment was in some way a reflection of the cancer’s “will”, or a manifestation of butcher’s desire to kill, and that it controls butcher’s access to his new powers. When butcher rejected it, the tumor withheld its power and kept killing him slowly. When butcher accepted ‘Kessler’s help, the tumor instead gave him full access to the powers (as long as he continues the goal to kill all supes), and so it decided to stop killing him and let him use the tentacles.

[@litneyloxan]

Kimiko finally finding her voice was amazing, and seeing some Gen V kids!

[@bryanbowers9750]

Ryan will kill Homelander. Butcher will kill Ryan. Hughie will kill butcher. That’s how it’s looking to me.

[@hiteshmalviya1715]

there are 4 Big characters,, HL, Soldier boy, Butcher and ryan I am guessing that by the end of the show it will be 2V2 Either Butcher & SB VS Ryan & HL or Butcher & Ryan VS HL & SB

[@OfficialDenzy]

Honestly I like this ending though I would prefer for Hughie to die aswell.

[@evan8402]

No I started to think butcher will kill homelander after the virus weakens him and when there’s no threat around that butcher tumor he will take control of butcher and butcher will ask Ryan to kill him I was thinking like you before but after last eps I changed my mind

[@drizzy1726]

@@OfficialDenzywhy would u prefer for hughie to die lol

[@bobbywilliams4438]

​@@hiteshmalviya1715Butch/ryan vs HL and SB sounds more likely

[@EdmundLoh]

Cindy has beautiful eyes.

[@enPassantWarrior9047]

shes a boy irl though

[@ghostwalkergames7707]

Holy fuck! I loved it so much, the fact that Sage was like you think everything is a ruin? Well that’s the god damn plan, spread Anarchy! And that final scene where you think they’re gonna get away but at the last moment they are taken captive. Soo good!

[@jesse_cole]

Considering what we saw when we finally got to see Butcher's V-form, it would have been awesome to have seen the fight with Ezekiel. Basically Ezekiel's limbs spaghetti-ing around while Butcher's tentacles were pulling them apart.

[@mr_world_wide]

Season 5 is the time Butcher will live up to his name

[@markpjf85]

Good final episode setting up a lot of things in season five that would go out with a bang 💥

[@ornsteinthedragonslayer2092]

The fact that Kimiko, who was held in a camp where she was forced to fight and kill people to survive for literally most of her life until pretty much The Boys Season 1, lost to some fucking frat supe was genuinely infuriating. I did watch Gen V and no I don't think Sam could take Kimiko.

[@damnation4562]

If the shifter won against Kimiko, then yes, Sam bodies Kimiko, with Sam being one of the strongest supes currently (on raw strength, at the very least)

[@nennejoh]

@@damnation4562 sam is as strong as homelander at least, he’s ripped people in half before. Also watch gen v!! What are you doingggggg

[@LemonadeDestiny]

Lore wise Sam is stronger than Queen Maeve. He absolutely whallops Kimiko here unfortunately, she wins on technique but brawns over brains here, F

[@gangsta_loki3159]

hes way stronger than her, her best power is her healing factor

[@damnation4562]

@@nennejoh I did watch gen v, CHILLLLLL!!! ☝️ and I'd say Sam is probably closer to queen maeve in strength.

[@user-gy1jz4br2z]

Are we 100% certain that Neuman’s eyes are the catalyst for her powers? I recall a reveal about her that may say otherwise…

[@UzumakiClan-md8zl]

It's one of the greatest episodes I've ever seen. Absolute masterpiece. I can't wait to see what happens in the next three years

[@crazyrj1899]

The scene where MM says “we’re all gonna die anyway.” The only part of his shirt you see says “dead”. So idk if MM is cooked or not

[@gavinjohn3545]

Can someone explain why Butcher didn't end Zoe? Considering how similar her powers are to Butcher's seems like a really dumb oversight letting her live.

[@user-wx2hs5se9q]

Even though he’s evil butcher ain’t killing kids 😂😂

[@EndlessKnightmare]

​@@user-wx2hs5se9qBut he can consider killing Ryan

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

Listen to what Butcher says to Stan a few episodes ago. In Butcher's book, Zoe isn't on his hit list because he believes she is still a fairly innocent kid.

[@evoak8575]

Bro this finale had me on the edge of my seat starlight was evolving this whole time this season basically focused on her developing into an extremely powerful supe im thinking she limited herself the entire time thinking she needs electricity to use her powers but you seen her use the power of the sun at the end to fly she is way more powerful than she thinks it reminds me of the end of captain marvel - I’ve been fighting with one hand behind my back what happens when I’m finally set free she is no longer a joke butcher killing Neuman was so shocking and unexpected but it needed to happen she killed so many innocents to get what she wanted Ryan killing Mallory set the fuse off in butcher to fully immerse himself in his own dark side to kill all Supes who knows how long it’s gonna be till he loses control fully Ashley taking V and kimiko finally speaking what an episode I was literally in awe the entire episode 🔥

[@TheBlindFighter]

That ending was crazy

[@Bruelax11]

The original title of the episode was “Assassination Run.” Changed obviously. What a week to come out.

[@StockImageOfaRat]

As shocking as Neumann death was it did feel like they only did it to prevent Homelander getting killed in s5 early on like they wrote themselves into a corner. Overall I loved that episode at least at an enjoyability standpoint probably the first time I was really shocked do watching the boys

[@BigityBug]

In the car scene, that is not Butcher’s reflection being Kessler, that is Kessler in the back seat, with Butcher driving, exactly how Butcher and Kessler are. Butcher control and steers the wheel while Kessler is in the back seat, helping him with the powers.

[@elliotness11]

I loved this season, and the ending was set up perfectly for its final season

[@BrainPilot]

Definitely!

[@fawazalshammari4580]

Great recap, this episode has really left an impression on me and let’s remember one thing. This show is all throttle with no breaks!

[@drawdaily8665]

My question is.. When Butcher came by and killed Neumann.. He wasn't looking like he is about to die as was shown in his previous scene... I also noticed his beard was also black. Is his tumor cured or something?

[@OfficialDenzy]

I think the tumor took control and stopped from killing his host.

[@CMvney]

I feel like Starlight got her powers so willingly because 1. she was under pressure, and 2. I think she gained a new ability to using her powers which is why she was able to fly so good and I believe she can use her powers from the sun now. Honestly now thinking about it, it’s even in her name: Sun=Star Sun=Light

[@aidenfriel5722]

I think Stan will come back for Zoe and rise her because he's the only family she has left besides her Dad

[@yuso.b854]

Butchers powers are a little anticlimactic, it was cool nonetheless. I’d have liked to see his conversation with Joe Kessler on how butchers powers worked.

[@Nooo_Way]

You can't even blame butcher at this point. Ryan litterally killed Malorie willingly. He's the new homelander

[@40rollsonly]

Because she was trapping him there?

[@Nooo_Way]

@@40rollsonly Doesn't justify the hard push

[@40rollsonly]

@@Nooo_Way so when you’re being kidnapped and threatened with being gassed/trained to unalive your father, you wouldn’t use any means to escape?

[@BearsNGym.]

@@40rollsonlyNah but to hear them out and see what they propose. If I was Ryan, I would’ve asked to tell me everything about Homelander.

[@wiswc]

@@BearsNGym. he is panicking and why wouldnt he? he said himself he needed time to think but they wanted to trap him instead

[@laststand2023]

theories - gen v season 2, cate and sam will turn into a new leaf and so at the end of the boys season 4 they were actually helping frenchie and kimiko - neuman might be alive, her powers is blood related so maybe she also have some healing properties, pretended to be dead in order to keep her daughter safe - the writers are playing with us when it comes to ryan being good or bad, remember at episode 7 he made butcher proud and now with episode 8 he made butcher lose faith, but i think in the end he will end up being good because of the influence of her mother and there are scenes in episode 8 that teases us with ryan vs HL - sage might be poisoning/weakening homelander through firecracker's milk -season 5 might start with starlight looking for queen maeve eventually teaming up with a-train and the gen v casts then eventually go against homelander and his troops of bad heroes, while sister sage setting everything in order to kill homelander simply as a challenge to herself. - HL teary eyes as he look into soldier boy might simply because he noticed that soldier boy is not aging like him - butcher might end up using his deadly virus to himself