THE BRAAI BROTHERS | ARGENTINA vs SOUTH AFRICA | SELECTION REACTION

The Rugby Championship trophy could well be heading back on the plane to South Africa on Sunday. But COULD Argentina spring a surprise and beat thew World Champions and keep the championship alive for another week?

[@RubenRodriguez-wi5ys]

No matter the result the Pumas will give hard work to the world champions ! Great respect for South African rugby not only for their game but because it has helped Argentina's rugby development for a very long time, since 1965 when Argentina rugby union toured South Africa. And, we are grateful for their help and open hart welcoming many times in their country. Vamos Pumas :)

[@christoduplessis8177]

Thanks mate, I agree, helping Argentinian rugby has been on the South African agenda for 60 years. We love you guys and want you to be great. Have consistently toured there for the last 30 years when no one else cared to show up ❤.

[@christianewald5286]

Had the privilege to go on a rugby tour to Argentina and Chile while at school in RSA, and as a Namibian I can say you are spot on with the Braai brothers, the love of meat runs deep, but also the respect for forward play.. with the argentine scrum and the RSA bash it up front mentality.. also the hospitality we received, sounds a lot like what you got in RSA.. and they drink Fernet and coke, like the saffas drink brandy and coke😉😂😂

[@NeoBulane-tf8bh]

I love your content Tim, and although I'm South African. I don't come from a Rugby background, but as a black man. I want my children to fall in love with the game, just like me. And you're one of the reasons 🙏

[@neillbarnard1072]

We are truly becoming a rainbow nation ❤

[@talana9771]

I am South AFrican and visited Argentina a few years back, loved it! I actually had some of the best steaks ever in Buenos Aires!

[@daveharris1800]

There’s a lot of history between Bokke and Pumas, in fact the Pumas nickname is the result of an error made by a journalist in South Africa.

[@groenrizla2513]

Please elaborate on where the Pumas got their name, I remember there was an issue with their name somehow.

[@conversationalist777]

@@groenrizla2513 The story behind this goes back to 1965 when the Argentine rugby team was on tour in South Africa. A South African journalist mistakenly referred to the animal depicted on the Argentine team’s emblem as a "puma" instead of a jaguar. Despite the error, the name stuck, and ever since, Argentina's rugby team has been referred to as "Los Pumas."

[@RubenRodriguez-wi5ys]

@@groenrizla2513 The original animal design on the Pumas shirt it is really a Yaguarete (it is a Jaguar and the only living member of the genus Panthera native of the Americas). At the time of the first tour it was difficult to explain to the South Africans that the animal was a Yaguarete so the journalist began calingl the shirt design a Puma (also a living animal in Argentina) and so it went as we were named by our friends in South Africa as the Pumas rugby team from Argentina.:)

[@kjlovescoffee]

@@groenrizla2513 From wikipedia: The Pumas nickname is the result of an error made by Carl Kohler, a journalist for the then Die Transvaler newspaper in South Africa, while following the team during their first overseas tour ever - to Southern Africa (to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, and South Africa) in 1965. He tried to devise a catchy nickname for the team similar to existing international team nicknames such as All Blacks, Springboks, and Wallabies. He asked Isak van Heerden, the then coach of the Natal Rugby team who was asked by the SARB to assist with the tour, for ideas. They saw a picture of a type of lion with spots on the UAR crest. Kohler was aware that the Americas had jaguars and pumas, and as he was under pressure to submit his article, made a guess and called them the Pumas, instead of the actual jaguar. The mistake stuck, and was eventually adopted by the Argentines themselves (although the UAR crest continued to depict a jaguar until 2023). Players of Los Pumas and a grenadier posing with the away uniform for the 2023 World Cup In April 2023, the UAR launched its new visual identity that included a change of emblems not only of the body but of the national teams, from senior to 7s and youth representatives. The process included the substitution of the characteristic jaguar figure with the puma, used as a namesake for the team since the 1965 tour in Rhodesia and South Africa. That same year the UAR released the Pumas' away kit inspired by the uniform of the Mounted Grenadiers Regiment, the Argentine military unit and presidential honour guard established in 1812. The away kit will be worn at the 2023 Rugby World Cup

[@groenrizla2513]

@RubenRodriguez-wi5ys Very interesting and soo similar to how the white rhino got it's name. Wyd in Afrikaans means wide and sounds a bit like white in English so instead of wyd lip (as they have a wide lip for grazing) the English thought it meant white and so it became the white rhino instead of wide lip rhino. Is that not a fair comparison?

[@adriaanduplessis8851]

A bit of history. Agustin Creevy started his career for the Pampas XV that played in the Vodacom Cup in South Africa. Vodacom cup was a tier 2 comp that took place at the same time as Super Rugby.

[@johannbarkhuizen2528]

Arg is no walk over. I am sure the boks will approach this with a lot of respect, but yes steaks will be "braai-ed".

[@RRYanSpencer]

Look up coach Izak van Heerden, relocated from Durban to Buenos Aires in the ‘60s to coach the Argentinian National side.

[@SkulletorsRugby]

Santiago Del Estero Tim, different place to Santiago. I’ve had a lot of explaining to do this week to my Saffa mates wondering why the Boks are playing the Pumas in Chile😂

[@briget3456]

Argentina, our brother from another mother! A family affair!

[@terrycoomber69]

Hey Tim thx for the great content

[@garywagner2466]

I think you are correct. I coached with an Argentine. When it was time for the coaches BBQ, he said he would bring some wine. He brought a case of Malbec. I promised adequate beef; two massive roasts low and slow on the outdoor grill. There were no leftovers. What a great night!

[@EggchasersRugby]

Heaven

[@RichardFaro-s8v]

Hi Mr Sir Eggchasers Rugby(I knight you best rugby input before and after games) I would like to thank you for all the work you put in behind the scenes to make your podcast the best... love what you do keep up the excellent work

[@gilliandawson6567]

Hi Tim, we also support Argentina for their heart & spirit. Plus the braai, of course.

[@benjaminjooste6388]

Bad day to be a cow in Argentina!

[@___JWM]

😂😂😂

[@EggchasersRugby]

Hahahaha

[@neilharvey3099]

Hi from Bogota, Colombia,... Vamos Boks! (by at least 20)

[@LittleBigMediaCo]

South Africa's number 6 & 7 in the pecking order lock pairing, still makes the combined sheet ahead of Argentina's two. It's almost criminal that the Boks are juggling and rotating eight world class locks, mainly due to injuries.

[@wayneval6249]

Tim ,I think the reason a lot of SPRINGBOK supporters have a great Respect for Argentina, is the fact that the SPRINGBOKS and Los Pumas don't have any imported Players from other Countries playing in our teams 🙏🏻💪🏻🇿🇦 And as I always say in my comments, thank you for been such a great Ambassador for South Africa. You are a LEGEND.

[@sandrajansevanvuuren7891]

There are also thousands of South African living in Argentina. One one my school friends husband is a farmer there. They are very happen. We respect Argentina`s rugby. So much passion

[@kobuslouw9533]

Saw the stadium we're playing in, very impressive. Even got a rugby statue at the entrance. HOW COOL IS THAT!

[@grantphillips5109]

Great Steaks there for sure 😊

[@janevanreenen8768]

Lovely content, so easy to listen to.. thanks Tim.

[@ericdawson7097]

Great chirp Tim! Love your videos and the varied content and comments you add in. On the rugby side - two great sides playing and entertaining all rugby lovers. It could go either way - looking forward to it!👍🏉

[@kjlovescoffee]

Braai Brothers/Asado Hombres - I like it! I'm not too confident on this one for the Boks. I suspect this game might the one we're willing to risk losing in order to come out all guns blazing in the last game.

[@ernokapp5982]

Great report as usual, thanks Tim!

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Yeah, I think the two natioms really like each other. And if I have to pick a nation to lose to, it would be Argentina in a heartbeat. I suppose it can be argued that as Argentina continues to build their depth and occupy the higher rankings for longer periods, then there will be those test matches that ends in bad blood through a bad ref call or a disallowed try. After that Im sure there will be some ill feelings if the one side feels that they were cheated. Its just natural, methinks. But for now? Absolutely love Los Pumas and they are firmly my #2 team.

[@ninoneels]

Thanks Tim

[@BlixemBlixem]

The rugby rivalry between South Africa and Argentina dates back to the 1960s, with the first major encounter happening during Argentina’s 1965 tour of South Africa. This tour was a pivotal moment in Argentine rugby history, as it was during this tour that the team earned their nickname, "Los Pumas." A South African journalist mistook the jaguar on the Argentine emblem for a puma, and the name stuck.

[@jacquie212]

Only other country where Afrikaans is still spoken. Los pumas was bestowed by South African media (mistaking the jaguar for a puma) when Argentina went on their first ever tour to Southern Africa, and saru backed pichot, and both feel aggrieved by the way they get treated by the NH and probably NZ and ARU. On the field tho, not sure they like each other much.. off the field must be great craic

[@darrenjackson6810]

Great content as always I think score will be Springboks 27 Argentina 26……yes one pointer win and then a big braai

[@tobyhart]

There's plenty at steak on Saturday when they meat. Argentina got beef with the Boks.

[@Derp846]

Good one😂😂

[@christoduplessis8177]

Whilst New Zealand is our greatest rival, the English the team we want to annihilate whenever we can, the Argies are our brothers in arms. We love them and have always tried our best to help them along as far back as the early 1980s. I guess our best mates in rugby (not that we have any mates in rugby 🙈).

[@randomlyfactual1943]

1960's*

[@petrusvanderMerwe-o9k]

some people resetled there

[@kristian762]

Jan Hendrik's last name is Wessels. It's not a double barrel surname.

[@davidjones3712]

There is an Afrikaaner community in Argentina. A group of boers left sa after the boer war as they refused to live under british rule. They settled in Argentina

[@eddieoberholzer165]

His surname is Wessels. Hendrik is part of his name. Jan-hendrik Wessels

[@andrewharris1837]

Agree this game a tough one to call with Pumas No10 unknown to me.Back row breakdown battle huge so could be a surprise here if local fans give muchos support😊

[@erickdavid2412]

For school sports we played against the Argentines. They do love braai!

[@MikeSavageZA]

By the way Tim, looking forward to your 'tour' video of Cape Town off the pitch and what you got up to, if such a thing exists?

[@AdriaanWindt]

I am ready for this to be a wild game. The 'new' Boks will have to warrior-up. Argentina will struggle to score 2 tries or more; all the ABs. Opinion!

[@Attie_36]

Argentina is a bigger threat to SA than the ABs this year

[@robertwood6297]

Argentina - overcast on Saturday with rain forecast on Sunday

[@teacheral5048]

Literally had a fillet steak and red wine just an hour ago. lol. SA is so good!!!

[@EggchasersRugby]

Ha. I has SO many steaks out there!

[@MikeSavageZA]

If the Boks go hard and fast early, we'll have their number. Typically, ARG are not great at coming back from behind, but outstanding at running away with momentum.

[@arceyes]

I agree but they were down at halftime against Aus and gave the Aussies a hiding. This Argentina side are different.

[@Chris_Rugby]

I can see Argentina unfortunately, crumbling a bit in the 2nd half the way Australia did against them.

[@neillbarnard1072]

Actually Argentina does not need a bonus point. What everyone is missing, is that Argentina only needs to win both games by 10 points or more, and deny SA a bonus point. If they get 8 log points in 2 games, and score 20 points overall more than SA they will be rugby championship winners, by ending on equal on log points and ahead on points difference

[@JahnBeukesMusic]

Hey Tim. I can promise you that no-one down here in SA is taking this game lightly. This Puma side is as unpredictable as the French used to be. Seems to be a reasonable starting 15 for the Boks, but this is no time to mess about. I am not convinced by Moerat yet, he seems to become a bit "invisible" in his role sometimes, but I'm no Rassie, so good luck to Salmaan. Either way, Bok forever, and by 15.

[@shackletonsteward7401]

Kit was better with the collar. But agreed, best looking international gear

[@charleschurch4901]

I feel that the game will be won by South Africa by 14 points. Springboks will keep it tight in the forwards and go wide when appropriate. But it's not going to be easy.

[@lawrenemakamu1257]

I am stl on the fence on the lock pairing choice - other than that, m alright

[@w0tnessZA]

35/20 for Boks

[@Argenswiss]

I believe if I'm not mistaken that the decider in case of a tie in points is matches won, followed by the head to head result and then points difference. Currently there are 8 points between them

[@elmebreytenbach8782]

Just love your thinking re both teams...Boks will win by more than 9

[@johanvandermerwe4884]

Hugo Porta

[@jonathanvolmink4518]

You stuck with Moerat...interesting Timothy...interesting...😂

[@Argenswiss]

Santi Carreras should definitely be there over Libbok

[@PowrAl]

Hey Tim, rarely do you comment or interact with your fans. You know that helps the algorithm too?

[@Gaf-ri2jm]

I think we(as a Bok Fan) need to be very careful, as it could be a 20 point either way?

[@beejallison8283]

Pumas gotta man up scrums lineout mauls and try not give away to many penalties that can lead to yellows if they can do that will give it a good go

[@janevanreenen8768]

Think it’s gonna be a wild one… both sides have a lot at stake… pardon the pun😉

[@EggchasersRugby]

haha

[@basildavidson4597]

👍🏻

[@elijahgouwer2003]

Springboks . 🎉

[@ThandoNdoku-hk1ew]

Ja neh

[@riaansnyman8747]

Tim , if you still have that idea that they could beat us.... dont come back to SA ...ha ha

[@ricardoprovan5159]

SA by 20 or 30. ARG fielding debutants and some almost uncapped players, plus a no-depth bench, means another flop is coming.

[@Kudu-GreyGhost]

No. Have you been to mannetjiies Roux in the Karoo? Kudu

[@reinieleroux]

There's a lot at stake or is there a lot of steak?

[@madikanesesethu]

See what you did there😂😂

[@brucethomson3512]

Both

[@groenrizla2513]

I think Argentina has a strategy and I hope they don't devolve to the old disgusting football hooligan tactics we saw in the 90s

[@Guvnor_12]

Tim, I love you, i respect your opinion more than most... but youre so disrespectful to Am... you never put him in a combined team. nah bro. he is miles ahead of chocobares!!! even with a broken ankle

[@alphaforcek9164]

Mate AM was great before his injury, he looked ok against Portugal but man he looked really out of sorts the last game he came on, so did Moodie. They need waaaay more games to get the rhythm back and need some serious games to get back to his previous form to in seat Kriel. Not disrespectful at all, the guys just calling it like everyone else is seeing it……

[@brucethomson3512]

Unlikely the Boks will lose Tim. Don't think they're too many ppl in SA that are that keen on the Argies. I think they'll probably get a red card 🤣

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Keen on Argentina South African here 🙋 They are by second favourite team.

[@Mo-yd8xc]

Kremer & Matera won't do jack

[@AllInTheGame01]

Hasn't been all roses between the two as wasn't there horrific racism from a bunch of ARG players a few yrs ago when they went to SA? And that was disgustingly replicated recently by some ARG footballers towards French black players :(

[@pietsmit5587]

I really hope Thomas du Toit cements his spot in the team...love to see him play

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Best thing about him? He is only 27. Malherbe and Koch are legends and incredible scrummagers, but Malherbe at 32 and Koch at 34 leaves me a bit worried for their chances to make it to 2027.

[@michaelacton1385]

Can you please do the combined team after the game again, to evaluate the players again after the game.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Tim, I wish to second this idea 💡