The Brain Didn’t Evolve - A Psychiatrist Explains Why

[@plousia]

Off topic, but the guest is beautiful with gorgeous hair. I love to see an older woman who doesn't chop her hair short and embraces her natural grey. She's a role model for me!

[@leenieledejo6849]

"Chop"?? I have never known anyone who "chops" their hair. It sounds like you lack objectivity. The most Christ-like woman I ever knew couldn't grow her hair after her third child (whom she lost). It just thinned out and even if she didn't cut it for months, it was still what most would call short. Not every woman can grow their hair. They don't have it short out of choice and so please refrain from making assumptions and using words like "chop". In any case, it's all about the heart. "But the Lord said unto Samuel: "Do not look on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart" (1 Samuel 16:7).

[@plousia]

@@leenieledejo6849 I am sorry you are so offended by what was intended to be a positive comment. I stand by my comment 100%. I truly hope if you claim to be a believer in Jesus that you deal with him on whatever caused the choice to spew so much senseless negativity on a compliment given to someone else. Have a blessed day.

[@leenieledejo6849]

@@plousia Wow. You're so full of self righteousness. You're right and kind and well-meaning and everyone else is "negative" and too sensitive. Wow. Definition of gaslighting. Stop with the "have a blessed day" hypocrisy. You should only say that when you actually mean it, not when what you've previously said is barely-concealed rage against a person.

[@Reg_The_Galah]

My thoughts exactly, great minds think alike

[@Reg_The_Galah]

@@leenieledejo6849hey settle down, okay?

[@drspmathew]

As a Physician, every day I stand amazed at how the brain works. Even more amazing to me is that there are still some people who believe that this complex organ, and even life itself, could be the result of a dumb process called evolution.

[@matswessling6600]

if you actually know the anatomy of the brain then you know that brain is structured in a layers.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@drspmathew And yet it is, which is also amazing but true.

[@AndréDeVos-y8f]

Don't lie. Physicians don't work with brains and have no knowledge whatsoever about them.

[@OlegLankin]

​@@AndréDeVos-y8f😂

[@AndréDeVos-y8f]

@@OlegLankin Pointless reaction. They already deleted my comment. They didn't like the truth.

[@warriorson7979]

*"Fearfully and wonderfully made"* 😌😌

[@warriorson7979]

@@richardgregory3684 More like poorly degenerated over the millennia due to sin and entropy...🤔😒

[@ulflyng]

@@richardgregory3684 If that is true, we wouldn't have survived as a species....

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

@@ulflyng Oh? Are you actually bringing in natural selection to explain why humans are a successful species? Anyways, evolution doesn’t make perfect organisms. There are innumerable errors, such as genetic disorders and hiccups in developmental pathways, that pervade Biology.

[@johnthecloud]

​@@Mario_Sky_521blood vessels in the eyes actually going in front of the retina rather than behind is was a very poor choice, and one a perfect creator would not make. That's just one of the most obvious jerry rigged things that that can be explained by natural selection but not by a perfect creator. There are many, many others - such as the repositioning of the larynx in humans that makes speech possible, but increases our chances of choking. Or even the fact that the oesophagus and the trachea share a common opening ( the mouth). That's a really bad design, proven by how many people/animals have choked to death. So life isn't perfectly designed, it's full of flaws a perfect designer would not make.

[@johnthecloud]

@@Mario_Sky_521 such a silly argument is it? The designer of your laptop put the components behind the screen not in front of it. No designer would put the components in front of the screen. If God did that purposefully, then he's not much of a designer is he? The reason why there are oddities such as the blood vessels in the eyes being in front of the retina is that there is no purpose in evolution by natural selection. There are random mutations that are selected because they offer small increases in survivability. The blood vessels bring in front of the retina is a terrible design choice that no intelligent designer would make. Evolution by natural selection is not perfect. Species evolve, and so do other species, and then something might change- lije the climate, and a species will become extinct, or will be driven to extinction by another species. So God is working to a price point? There I was thinking that an all powerful all knowing entity would make things to the best quality. Now I realise he's doing it on the cheap! You say if evolution was the creator then why didn't it perfect all these flaws. Well that's not the way evolution works. It's not perfect. It relies on blind and chance mutations which are only then selected because they offer more if a chance to grow to adulthood and reproduce, thereby pasding down the mutations and the advantage to the descendants. The mutations is random, the selection process is not. Now I'm going to turn that question around on you. If God is the perfect creator then wht did he create thing with such flaws. Why didn't he fix those flaws considering he is perfect?

[@poliincredible770]

Intelligence can only come from an intelligent source.

[@alexojideagu]

So where did the original intelligence come from? Your sentence literally makes no sense.

[@poliincredible770]

@@alexojideagu the original intelligence came from an eternal source of intelligence: God.

[@globalcoupledances]

@poliincredible770 - and where did the intelligence of that God came from? Which university?

[@jimmiewomble416]

​@globalcoupledances you beat me to it. Reading their mental "cheat sheet", I think the standard answer goes something like "God has always been there, but (he got bored one day 6 thousand years ago) he decided to make man, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, except plus a little sin, so he didn't get cocky and try to rebel against me, but I made Satan, because no wait Satan was already in heaven, but my perfect little Angel rebelled, no that doesn't work either, WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION ME, YOUR ALMIGHTY ALL POWERFUL CREATOR, OH DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!". Close enough?

[@georg7120]

So this intelligence source must come from an intelligent source that came from an intelligent source and so on'....

[@Sammyxxoo]

Thank you so much for this interview. I didn’t know about Dr Dianne Grocott until now and I absolutely loved listening to her. I’m just sad the interview is finished but I will definitely be watching this again and again. She is fascinating to listen to. I love when i stumble across people like her. She is now one of my favorites

[@juliekeeney1538]

I’m so amazed at my brain every day. I thought my hard drive, in my head, was full a long time ago. Then I got a new job, an intense job, feels like trying to do surgery on the stock market exchange floor, and turns out my brain actually had enough room to absorb more information in about four months time and I’m still amazed that it was able to handle all that without completely melting down

[@ThomasConover]

Mark 9:23 “Everything is possible for the one who believes.”

[@steveroso9604]

Have a question about your new job. What training or school courses did you take?

[@johnjohnson9658]

Nothing makes sense without God guiding your path !

[@petergriffin012]

@@johnjohnson9658 you mean the warrior god of ancient israel Yahweh?

[@MrWookie21]

@@petergriffin012 "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1 Corinthians 1:25)

[@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084]

nothing in biology and science, makes sense except in light of evolution. It's overwhelming how well supported it is. This dr is out of her mind.

[@usapatriot444]

@@petergriffin012 We’re you to read the entirety of the Old Testament, you would see that this non-believer simplistic description of God does not fit your shallow view of Him, How often did He not take back the sinful Israelites and also include many prophetic words pointing to the sending of the Perfect Sacrifice for sin…namely Jesus Christ. By the way, as an unbeliever, just what is your definition of right and wrong?

[@JohnCarboni-f6n]

​@@petergriffin012if He wasn't, we would not be here, even the ungrateful ignorant by choice, ones.

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

And still, there will be people who will not entertain the possibility that "too many coincidences occurring all at once" points to something supernatural, not natural.

[@mchooksis]

Because they are not effing coincidences!! Why can't people get their head around this? It is adaptation and selection. The process is very easy to understand. DNA is nothing like a computer. Each gene on a strand can only do one thing Act as a template for the RNA molecule. They can't compute anything new. All this lady is saying is it's very complex. I don't understand how it could have happened therefore let's invent a magical god, ( and make him in our own image and make him a man too). Then we can say that he did it all through magic. I can understand why unducated middle Eastern men a few thousand years ago would say this. But today? With all the understanding and knowledge we have today? It beggars belief.

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

Too many coincidences leads to too many variations and too many defects and diseases. If you design something, why would you make so many defects? Are we laboratory mice?

[@rygarchamp]

@@FKRaca-pp8ig Life was meant to be hard, not perfect.

[@diegoclark7697]

​@@FKRaca-pp8igyeah like the phones we have don't have faults and defects. Designing something doesn't mean ultimate perfection.

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

@@diegoclark7697 sure, so why that hype of perfect God? Phones are not ultimate designs, but you and I, we are ultimate design if there is no evolution...

[@stephanmarcouxdrums4877]

I'm impressed by the cleverness of this old woman, full of wisdom and she is very aware of many things.

[@lettersquash]

I respectfully disagree.

[@williamkean7200]

How I wish I knew what she knows when I first became a Christian, how wonderful what has happened in her study . What a God , what a Lord , what a Christ. All things made for Him and by Him.

[@jeffguarino2097]

I never became a Christian. I was born that way and I was baptized. I never asked to become a christian and in Canada we have freedom of religion. I was never given a chance to pick any religion as it states in our constitution. The US has the same in its constitution. But the authorities allow adults everywhere to take their children to churches of various religions and the children always go with the parents to the parents church. They are forced. 100 % of children are forced to join the same religion as their parents and babies are baptized right after birth into a religion. This is abuse and against the law. It is child abuse. When a child reaches 18 years old , then they should pick the religion they want.

[@gustavogalindo4543]

@@jeffguarino2097 The word religion doesn’t exist in the original bible and that is the Hebrew Bible. It’s insane that there are more than 30,000 religions in the world.

[@lettersquash]

@@jeffguarino2097 That's a lovely idea, but in reality religion becomes so important to many people that they're desperate to share this "blessing" with their children, and fearful the children won't come to it naturally. I wish it were not so. Many parents would feel it was child abuse not to "share" (indoctrinate) their religions. I don't know about those constitutions. I wonder if they mean freedom of religion in the way you're suggesting, or if they accept that parents have the right to bring kids up in their traditional religion, but (perhaps as adults) each person has a right to their own choice of religion eventually. A law against persecution or discrimination for a religious choice is different from a stricture against preaching or teaching a religion to others, including children. For my part, I cringe at the idea of kids being taught their parents' religion, because for me religion is all nonsense. Kids should be taught critical thinking, not faith.

[@lampkin9287]

@@jeffguarino2097nor were you asked to be born, you were forced, forced to do a lot of things that you couldn’t necessarily do for yourself. You couldn’t work, because you had no skills, so you were forced to eat, one because you got hungry and two because you didn’t have money to choose what you wanted to eat day to day. This list just goes on and on, but about you being a true Christian can be argued. Most people who are in the true church are only Christians in name!

[@JuergenBertram-ps7sy]

Thank you, ladies, marvellous conversation !😅

[@MrWookie21]

How do you know?

[@Sparkyrips]

I came across this quite by accident. I am bedbound at the moment. My belief in God has lately become a lot stronger and this certainly adds to it. My dr has reduced my medication of over 30 years because he is concerned I may get the rare serotonin syndrome which i now understand more clearly ie I need to actually eat something but more amazingly is the explanation of ADHD. My 10 year old grandson has it and has no support whatsoever and it is terrible to see how sad his life is at times. He is also a very strange diet as he dislikes and refuses to eat many everyday foods. This has given me insight into how we may be able to alter his adrenalin levels by diet. I must thank you for this video. If only school teachers could explain as you do .....

[@ben-str]

Pls do something for your 10 year old grandson. Pray to God to heal him. Can you do this?

[@mrsmith4662]

Solid stuff. I loved the comment, 'He was nicer than I thought'.

[@ctr7503]

These have been very helpful for strengthening my testimony, to know that there are legitimate scientific reasons to believe, not just the internal proofs God gives, puts my mind at ease regarding the old testament. Thank you.

[@MrWookie21]

We cannot demonstrate scientifically the existence of God ; because this means presenting cause to effect demonstrations. There are only effect to cause demonstration of the existence of God by departing from tangible realities that can be observed by our senses in our environment. These are ways that have been given by Thomas Aquinas leading to the understanding of God's attributes.

[@Dr_Bobbie]

I've been working for 40 years as a scientist. The evidence for God's creative work is overwhelming. I could never be an atheist based on what I know.

[@lettersquash]

Sorry, ctr7503, but those aren't scientific reasons to believe, they're the wishful thinking of believers misrepresenting science. There is no scientific reason to believe in God, and all the evidence points to the world being completely natural. We learn more and more all the time about the completely accidental steps along the way, how the less favourable mutations were weeded out leaving the occasional improvement, over vast stretches of time. Evolution of humans from single celled organisms over several billion years is utterly incontrovertible. Creationists talk nonsense, I think largely to keep convincing themselves - it puts their mind at ease. You're all putting each other's minds at ease. It's not good. Discourse, rigorous criticism, doubt, challenge - these are how to become wise. Dedicate yourself to finding genuine knowledge and it leads to atheism (and something much more precious than mental ease, I promise). If you want mental ease, there's a danger you cling to happy untruths. Much love and hope for the future from a wise old atheist.

[@dradelet]

I met Dr Di last night - wonderful lady! I like how clearly she explains things in her videos.

[@JohnCarboni-f6n]

Takes a brain to create a brain, that's how computers are created, intelligent design. Also takes a brain to fully realize intelligent design, not random dumb, dead end, chance.

[@JohnCarboni-f6n]

@@sloine-q5l U mean computer, right. It is a compilation of human intelligence created by human intelligence .Intelligent Design.

[@johnpro2847]

you do not understand the scientific process..so you use a kids explanation

[@rizdekd3912]

So...God has a brain? Maybe rethink your maxim. All that is needed for a brain is an ordered universe with regular and creative processes. And the universe appears to be ordered and creative, right? Isn't that what fine tuning is...a universe that is orderly, functional and creative? Why would God fine tune a world that now operates on random, dumb and dead end chance? It seems chemistry itself is a creative process that behaves as if it has regular and predictable processes. If it didn't how would it support life? Chemistry itself may be considered a form of life since life seems to be based on it...or at least a precursor to life because it organizes and repeats actions resulting in replication with one component building upon another for greater and greater complexity. Why won't theists think this is how God created the natural world...ie capable of producing and supporting life? At least it seems possible that's what an omnipotent, omniscient God could do, right?

[@Danuxsy]

Okay so who craeted the brain that created the brain? Who made God? lol

[@josephalison12]

​​@@Danuxsy The most sophisticated robot cannot imagine that the one who "created it" eats all kind of food, get angry, happy, sad, loving etc, has eyes, can smell, cry, reproduce, etc etc. The "created" by definition is limited and has shortcomings. Our brain is enough for us to get a glimpse of how powerful our Creator is. He is certainly not like anything we can imagine no matter how hard we try.

[@mustafanajmusshantanu2070]

The explanation is clearly understanding and most of the views are really fantastic.

[@glenliesegang233]

No living organism is made of self-copying molecules. Information never arises from randomness. Information is order imposed on randomness which achieves a goal outside itself if transcribed, sent, received, and processed. R.Dawkins states unequivocally that the DNA molecule must hold digital information in thousands of byte-equivalents. But he never explains where he believes the information came from.

[@veteransniper6955]

Then may be all living organisms are made of self replicating sets of molecules?

[@OlegLankin]

​@@veteransniper6955 no molecule self replicates. DNA doesn't copy itself, contrary to what some may have said. It takes a good number of other molecules, working as machines, in concert, at incredible speeds, to make copies of DNA. DNA itself doesn't make its own copies.

[@globalcoupledances]

Define living organism first!

[@veteransniper6955]

​@@OlegLankin You are wrong from the beginning, some molecules do self-replicate. This is called autocatalysis, in simplest form for single molecule, but also it includes collective autocatalytic reactions, where sets of molecules replicate. So, we can say each molecule in the set self-replicates through participation in the set. This includes self-replication via intermediate molecules and mutual catalysis. The rest of your post is not connected to the beginning at all at least, and even if it were, it cannot support your erroneous claim that no molecules self-replicate. I’d like to continue this discussion with others, especially the original conversation starter, to understand their points and conclusions. Since your comments often consist of disconnected facts, flawed logic, and erroneous claims that I do not wish to untangle, I kindly ask that you refrain from participating in this topic. Thanks.

[@menkulinanaldebaran7509]

@@globalcoupledances Everyone knows the difference between a stone and a bacteria, or a stone and a tree, or a man. Your saying is sensless...

[@dimitrioserkekoglou4382]

Thoroughly enjoyed it, from beginning to end. One tiny detail I would like to comment on is that the word synapsis (σύναψη) is totally greek, it's not Latin. Great talk. I would love to see more of this 🙂👍👍👍

[@callumclarke1733]

Intelligence can only come from intelligence, Life can only come from life.

[@OlegLankin]

​​@@richardgregory3684 not if you understand that we Christians believe in a God that answers all those questions. He is without a beginning. But you do, you're just pretending not to.

[@ClifffSVK]

@@callumclarke1733 Cars can only come from cars

[@MrWookie21]

@@callumclarke1733 Order can only come from an intelligent being. That's why God must at least be as much intelligent as all the intelligence of the entire order that we can find in the universe. Concerning life, if you take a single living being, you'll find out that in a causal process you cannot trace back to the infinite of the lineage of its ancestors to get an explanation of the cause of one of them. Nothing is explained at every stage of this lineage. Therefore we have to come to a conclusion. You need necessarily an efficient cause that has caused a being at one time. Therefore God is a necessary being. He is the being causing the others and Himself is caused by nothing ; otherwise the process would go on infinitely again. The cause is what determines the being of something. It's what brings something out of nothingness. God is the cause of every thing.

[@OlegLankin]

@@paulbeardsley4095 not pleading anything. It's written in the Bible.

[@OlegLankin]

@@paulbeardsley4095 ? 🙄

[@laurabyrd9903]

This is beautiful absolutely awesome how she breaks down the brain into detail. I love this interview thank you so much.

[@selflessgood]

The complexity of brain can not refute evolution nor creator, neither can it refute the big bang. Not a single person knows the truth about our existence except assumptions we make. But one thing clear is that everything about the brain and rest of complex stuff we have all come across points to a mastermind behind them, but unfortunately, we don't know who or what exactly it is.

[@paulc80]

God

[@selflessgood]

@@paulc80 How do you define or describe this God?

[@RafaelCardoso-ls6pr]

The answer to your question is in the gospels of Matheus, Mark, Luke and John.

[@YYYhhhhhhsunset78857]

@@RafaelCardoso-ls6pr but in Mark 11 it says Jesus stole a donkey Edited: I'm joking, guys

[@paulc80]

@@selflessgood How can I describe the indescribable? I just know God is our creator.

[@kryptonianninja]

This is quite interesting. That being said, it’s difficult to take soft sciences like psychiatry seriously. It would be refreshing to hear this information from a neuroscientist.

[@0oo00]

What? Helpless without bribed scientific authority.

[@eddymaatkamp]

Thank you! I was wondering, will there be a follow-up about the 'mind-brain' problem? Monism/dualism? I love Wilder-Penfield's works, for example his book The Mystery of the Mind. I'd love to see a discussion about that subject 😊

[@creationministriesintl]

We'll add it to our list of ideas for future episodes!

[@eddymaatkamp]

@@creationministriesintl Great! Thanks!

[@glenliesegang233]

Mind emerges from brain as a tapestry arises from a loom. But cells make up brains, and each cell is its own small world.

[@eddymaatkamp]

@@glenliesegang233 the emergent mind/spirit (through evolution) has already been discredited by many - thoughts are not brain secretions. Have you read Wilder-Penfield? He already proved in the sixties that the mind is not wired (part of the brain). Or Aping Mankind by Raymond Tallis? I myself publish a Dutch edition of Edgar Andrews' book What is Man? Adam, Alien, or Ape?, in which he deals with several 'emergent theories.' They don't hold any water. Michael Egnor also has some great things to say about it.

[@sbgtrading]

"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my brain the most". Thankfully, God remembers me and he is faithful, and glorious! We are fearfully and wonderfully made

[@IULIUSLXIX]

The brain is weird. Mine has started to make sounds lately and sounds of sparks from time to time. Funny thing is that it started happening after I overcame stress and depression

[@MichaelAntoine-n1y]

Please be wary of any drugs if ever offered. Double-check the side effects and if they ever work. On the other hand, cold press coconut oil, ginkgo, and wall nuts along with trust in God will help your situation. O side effects.

[@ben-str]

Tell the sounds of sparks to 'go away, you're not wanted here.' Say this out loud. Rinse and repeat.

[@Olivia-ny6nl]

My brain interprets information wrong and sends out signals making me feel like I have water in my head dripping. When I’m in stressful situations it becomes worse and it feels like it’s crawling in my body. I can’t wear certain clothes because it hurts and I can’t wear a ponytail or headphones, or a necklace, nothing attached to the head or neck. This also begun after massive stress. The brain certainly is interesting but I’d prefer it to go back to the way it was.

[@IULIUSLXIX]

@Olivia-ny6nl I feel the water too.That is the Called the christ in you. The water is the oil,you are anoited. My recommendation is to meditate and also to visit a psychiatrist. I did it and my life changed. I feel like a young man now 😌

[@watchman2001]

What a beautiful lecture, it makes me want to study the brain more...

[@fayolalulusandy5546]

Irreducibly complex?

[@conephompany]

Uva dops!

[@Ramiromasters]

This conversation was all over the place, from cosmology to chemistry to biology... The arguments never explained away the Anthropic principle, which is understandable as it nullifies the "what are the chances arguments"

[@thenonexistinghero]

5 minutes in so far and I'm pretty certain I won't be convinced. The reasoning is weak without any actual evidence. And some of the things she said are just downright incorrect.

[@ben-str]

Fine Tuning theory. (Who) put things as they are?

[@Ramiromasters]

@@ben-str I don't dismiss the idea of a benevolent, all-powerful entity influencing the world, but ultimately, the real question is how that entity itself came to be. It seems we, as humans, struggle to answer this because of how our minds work-we rely on time, events, and reference points to understand anything. Perhaps there was no specific "beginning" in the way we think of it, and the universe is made up of elements that are beyond comparison-meaning they can't be broken down, explained, or put into context in ways our minds understand. Our thinking is constrained by needing parts, places, and timelines to comprehend anything. It's like trying to figure out how your own body works without being able to examine it internally or compare it to anything else. You’d only have your own sensations and actions as a guide, but no broader understanding. The idea that "God created everything" is appealing because we can understand a being with intentions and the capacity to create. But it doesn’t answer the "how," just like science can't fully answer it either, since both require reference points and timelines.

[@moonshiner5412]

So enlightening! I appreciate these discussions. I believe just like comment below that I can use this information in my discussions with people about the existence of God. I wonder if I am not borderline ADHD because my brain is constantly going. I am 70 and I believe the Lord helped me figure out how to use my brain. I was (still am at heart) a software engineer. Most of the time when I had to develop a solution to a problem, I played games. Usually I came up with the solution in the middle of a game. When in grade school, my teachers usually gave me more work because I was always done very quickly and then bothered the other kids. When in university, I did better when I had 5 or 6 classes as opposed to when I only had 2 classes. Anyway, great information. Keep up the awesome work! God Bless You All!

[@biosciencegeek5057]

I actually need your guidance on this. Currently debating atheists on twitter. I specialize in biochemistry but have recently delved into machine learning and programming. Can you check my points as a software engineer? I used your field as a validation that randomness cannot give us the systems we see in the cell. It is a lengthy response, but would appreciate your input. Would you be willing to help me check the validity of the statements I made? It would make it more convincing if I do not make statements that are theoretically wrong in your field😅

[@AgeOfNefarious_Deception]

@@biosciencegeek5057The same goes for making a theoretically wrong ie.theory of evolution statement, in God's field of expertize, especially by a pompous bioscience geek.

[@biosciencegeek5057]

@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception what are you even saying? Can you be more coherent? What are you trying to add to this conversation except insult?

[@AgeOfNefarious_Deception]

@@biosciencegeek5057 Sorry, my bad. I must have got this video mixed up with another. Even I don't understand my own comment.🤐

[@biosciencegeek5057]

@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception No worries, I understand. Have a lovely blessed day!😁

[@Fatusbeergutus]

If you don't understand a process or have no interest in learning what is known about a process, then you are not capable of having a valid opinion. If god does it for you go for it, but i choose knowledge and understanding. Everyones an atheist when they are born.

[@howarddavies8937]

It EVOLVED, because it's complex doesn't mean it didn't. This woman may be a psychologist,cut she has no understanding of neurobiology or evolution. She doesn't understand that humans didn't come from monkeys, they both had a common ancestor. .

[@stephanmarcouxdrums4877]

No, the obvious evidence is that someone did something to our DNA. Especially with those stories of Beings descending from the sky to earth, and stories of Tsunami all around the planet, and the obsession from our ancestors with time and stars. Basically, human chromosomes 2 has been the result of an end-to-end fusion of two chromosomes, we have 46 chromosomes not 48. The rest is just speculation and estimation about how that would be possible to cccur, or even if it's artificial or natural. I'm more willing to accept that some advanced beings descending from the sky to earth probably created the human being, I believe that more then any other speculation. Some smart person has been proposing a more advanced civilisation in the past compare to what we are today, but nothing left due to catastrophic event on the scale of the entire planet and a very long period of time between now and then.

[@sbgtrading]

The brain changes...for sure...and children have different brains than their parents...but that's proven to be a bad thing. Our children inherit an accumulated load of genetic errors from parents. I admit Evolution is the best naturalistic alternative to intelligent design...but that doesn't mean Evolution is a good theory, and it doesn't mean it's a valid theory. If Evolution was to be valid, you'd need to be able to reproduce it using the mechanisms it proposes. So I challenge you to it...develop a brain in a lineage from parents that do not have coding for a brain. That is the grand claim of Evolution...that all biodiversity came from simplicity.

[@ben-str]

" that humans didn't come from monkeys, they both had a common ancestor. " I have yet to see a monkey evolve into a human. Just saying..

[@jenniferwatson7118]

This was fantastic - thankyou so much.

[@Kavlor1]

Evolution is trial and error , what works carries forward what fails gets left behind.

[@csmoviles]

Macroevolution presupposes an addition of information to the existing one. We have never seen that happened. Mutation is not adding information..it's exactly the opposite, where information gets deleted.

[@hatman-rc2vc]

yeah i know i know man... if errors are left behind, how is it possible that in your case errors instead of being left behind, have been forwarded? i think the only think left behind here is you my friend, no hate, just honest.

[@Dr_Bobbie]

What is known to work is to shed all genetic material not needed in the present environment. Streamlined genomes have all the differential reproductive advantages, but no potential for higher development.

[@ben-str]

Can you show me Evolution in a scientific experiment? Or do you need more time. Talk is cheap I need more than talk. Could you prove it with a scientific experiment?

[@ben-str]

"Evolution is trial and error , what works carries forward what fails gets left behind." You described 'randomness'. You can NEVER GET intelligence out of randomness. Normally, it is written 'you can never get Order out of randomness' Take 10 marbles. I need you to line them up in a straight line. But you cannot line them up yourself (intelligence), you must employ a random method such as tossing the marbles in the air, letting them land. How much time will you need?

[@tremainecornish2977]

I've gone through a similar series of transitions in 'understanding', through questioning this enormously complex & beautiful thing called a brain & intelligence. It seems to me more and more that the world, and us in it are the product of intelligent design, though I personally, at least at this stage, wouldn't call the 'designer' God.

[@Xyrogenix]

{Isa 55:6 KJV} Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: {Isa 55:7 KJV} Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. {Isa 55:8 KJV} For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. {Isa 55:9 KJV} For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. God bless you all. 🙂

[@Sammyxxoo]

There is no greater wisdom than the wisdom of God ❤

[@MrWookie21]

@@Sammyxxoo And that is the Word of God, Jesus Himself! (1 Cor. 1 :30)

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

"With me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of a man’s mind which has been derived from the minds of the lower animals is of any value or at all trustworthy, would anyone trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind if there are any convictions in such a mind?” -Charles Darwin Atheists: “Of course we would!”

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

Just look around you-do you think mankind behaves much differently than animals? Our brain is not as smart as you think. Some individuals are able to piece together bits of information and build knowledge, but as individuals, we are not as remarkable as you might think.

[@ianmonk6211]

We make choices good or bad. Animals just live within their programming. Eat sleep reproduce. Fight for leadership. None do arithmetic write literature make hi tech tools cars planes etc. we may be debase ourselves by falling for Satan's deceptions but we are very different from animals.

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

Uh oh, a creationist quote-mine!

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@FKRaca-pp8ig I looked around me and I haven't seen an animal create clothing for itself. I haven't seen any animals that create vehicles to travel into outer space. No animals have been observed developing new technologies that previous generations of that animal weren't already using. There is a monumental difference in the human brain and animal brains in terms of creative capacity. Our brains were created in the image of God's mind, that is the differentiating factor. This should be good news for atheists. It means you are not just a random monkey mistake. It means your great, great, great... grandkids won't sprout wings and become manhunting gargoyles. It means you were created for a loving purpose by the most intelligent mind in the universe. Accept the love; receive Christ.

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 uh-oh, a materialist who believes he descended from a non-human!

[@Flash-pp3cr]

Disappointed the moment she said that it wasn't the data that convinced her. But I did like how she explained processes. Especially ADHD.

[@showme1493]

they spent at least half the time addressing the known serious disorders and longterm disfunctionality of many brains. i would have thought that at least might suggest that the brain might not be designed

[@brushmasterspaintingfranchise]

How so?

[@w12ath040211]

Because God designed it. And here we have some examples wherein the design ain't so good.

[@watchman2001]

A car is designed but it can develop many problems luckily mechanics can fix them

[@showme1493]

@@watchman2001 by that logic, god would be necessarily fallible just like car producers and mecanics

[@les_crow]

@@watchman2001 If human beings are all powerful, all capable, and all-knowing the car wouldn't develop those problems.

[@garysanusi2050]

Just a wonderful interview is all I can say👏👏

[@andreadashnea7305]

You can literally live without 50% of your brain.

[@Lukesh30253]

I’ve always thought about this domino effect of things that would all have to take place simultaneously in order for evolution like blood clotting, and the function of organs together we would’ve just died and bled out

[@sloine-q5l]

Maybe a man can evolute down wards too, and animal's , such a dog evolves down to a mouse? Then a mouse evolv's down to an ant insect.

[@Heaven351]

The Neuroplasticity - the ability of neuron structures to become modified through experience , alone makes her claim wrong . Brain 🧠 evolves

[@PhilIsaak]

In all living species all over earth? 🤣🤣🤣 A rubber band and paper cup need a designer and maker but not the brain in thousands of species all over earth in radically different environments. Bit that’s a lot of positive “mutations” even though we can count positive mutations on one hand. 99% of all mutations are negative and a few are neutral. Being called a mutant isn’t a compliment unless you’re a bodybuilder. Evolution has no causal force and no guiding force…..but a paper clip needed one but not bats who fly with sonar ….yeah that just happened but a post it note and eraser needed an intelligence…… God has set eternity in the hearts of men but mankind does not understand the work of God from the beginning. Ecclesiastes 3:11 Romans 1:18-22 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. Over 50 different hormones in the human body ……all work synergistically had to be in place simultaneously

[@Heaven351]

@@PhilIsaak study Neuroscience along with Bible , you will see majority of things do not need a creator , things are spontaneously driven . Same goes with brain . Now do not make silly arguments like who made your phone ? Who created the building ........ to make your argument

[@trisha9745]

Look up John Lennox, Professor of Mathematics at Oxford University, and what he has to say about evolution. ​@Heaven351

[@PhilIsaak]

@@Heaven351The evidence for God is clearly seen but man refuses to acknowledge what his spirit confirms is true but he suppresses it Romans chapter 1:18-32 It is appointed unto a man once to die but after this comes the judgment Hebrews 9:27

[@Heaven351]

@@PhilIsaak forget about Petty theories of New testament or old testament , learn mount of sermon of Jesus and his esoteric teachings that way you will understand Science better . Bible has rotten your brain that is why it can not accept the fact Brain evolves , not set into motion or designed by external creator like old testament God but God exists as formless entoty ,working through matter and brain and brain evolves to manifest God , that is to say Brain evolves spontaneously so that it can understand God better

[@YusefMG]

4) We have certainly created man in the best of stature;[1948] [1948]- i.e., upright, symmetrical, and balanced in form and nature.

[@waderivers99]

Thank you for presenting an amazing intelligent and interesting program.

[@DanielaWilliams-qk5xg]

The question of who made God doesn't make sense because then he would not be God. It means there is a limit to our natural understanding when it comes to our creator. The truth is we are created and therefore subject to creator which implies certain limitations.

[@rizdekd3912]

But the question of how a creator happens to have the properties/capabilities it has does make sense if the same question could be applied to an eternal natural world. Folks talk about 'intelligence' as having to have been created without realizing they're arguing that God, if intelligent, had to have been created. Why would an eternal natural world that could produce intelligence be any more unlikely than an eternal God who comes with intelligence?

[@DanielaWilliams-qk5xg]

@paulbeardsley4095 everyone is free to believe in what they want. My mind can reason bc I think God gave me that ability otherwise the brain itself is just an organ. But I can understand that not everyone agrees...unfortunately, I find that many atheist have become aggressively condescending. I respect the ones that can have civilized conversation.

[@DanielaWilliams-qk5xg]

@@paulbeardsley4095 I can have an opinion regardless. Again, you can choose to believe whatever you want. I know in whom I believe and my eternal hope. And I'm not ashamed of that.

[@DanielaWilliams-qk5xg]

@paulbeardsley4095 And I could state my points and say the same thing to you, but I don't (and you'd just keep going). That's not the way I choose to speak to people. That being said, goodbye, best to you.

[@w12ath040211]

​@@DanielaWilliams-qk5xg "you can choose to believe whatever you want" No he can't and neither can you or I or anybody. Try believing God isn't real. Go on. While you're doing that I'll try and choose to believe the sky is red.

[@SarahMaples-r7r]

Our culture has put so much value on multitasking to the point that it's practically a virtue. I would like to have heard Dr. Grocots explanation on that ability, or perhaps facility.

[@suechapel1443]

The fact that Evolutionists believe that they can trust their monkey brains to find reason is very weird 😐

[@w12ath040211]

Well we're apes. But even monkeys use evidence to know things about their environment. I smell a predator. Get ready to hide. Yep there it is now I see it. Now hide. That's really all humans are doing. Monkey smells the predator before it shows up then it shows. The monkey made a prediction based on evidence and was correct. Monkey hoots to it's friends Do you smell a predator too? They hoot back Yes I do. This is basically the scientific method albeit much less sophisticated but the basic idea. I don't understand why that's a problem for you.

[@rizdekd3912]

Do you think monkeys trust their monkey brains? Monkeys have to reason too...they reason how to find food, avoid predators, find mates and care for their young. They form cohesive groups that look out for each other and help each other. They know when another monkey has wronged them or been nice to them and react accordingly. They communicate meaning. They have signals and sounds that mean something to each other. In fact monkeys, actually apes (chimps) organize bands and wage war against other chimps. Categorically, what doesn't the monkey brain do that the human brain can do? You think monkey brains evolved or did God create them? IF God created them why wouldn't they work and their reasoning ability be reliable for the world they live in?

[@OceanPacific111]

Are you saying there is no reason behind human endeavors? Reason is the power of man, and the nature of the reason, or intention, is what either creates civilization or destroys.

[@ben-str]

Monkeys are willing to trade a lost iPhone for an apple.

[@w12ath040211]

@@ben-str exactly. Monkeys are fully capable of recognizing what they need and discarding what they don't. A great example of reasoning. It's not magic after all!

[@suneelrana100]

Very insightful, thank you both!!!

[@OlegLankin]

I don't understand evolution, because it makes no sense. I used to think I understood it.

[@cesareomendez6794]

@@OlegLankin evolution is nothing more than a weak explanation of how everything came to be based on a man's opinion. Literally he wrote his own belief of how everything came to be. No evidence or proof! Just mere observation and probable cause. Weak!

[@OlegLankin]

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[@bobwilkinson2008]

@@cesareomendez6794 The theory of evolution probably has more evidence than any other scientific theory. Like you, this lady clearly doesn't understand evolution or she wouldn't be spouting such embarrassing drivel.

[@mickjames7962]

It’s an insane clown posse patting each other on the back and paying each other money for their stupendous clowndom they have together wrought.

[@OlegLankin]

@@mickjames7962 whatever your point may be, do you have some kind of problem with money? If so, please explain.

[@chadwickemcphearson]

Neural plasticity proves free will to me anyway. Until a viable explanation to how the matter in my head can rewire itself according to MY THOUGHTS (I think, therefore...) without there being some sort of "consciousness" factor in this, I'll refuse to believe it wasn't designed. There is way more going on there, but consciousness seems to be a fundamental function or force that can't be accounted for in other terms or substituted.

[@manuelteixeira2496]

I thank my Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ, The Begotten Son Of God Almighty, and The Alfa, Ómega, and Triune God. I decide every day to submit and obey with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

[@Sammyxxoo]

⁠@@richardgregory3684 it’s incredibly sad you can’t see how beautiful that comment is.

[@Sammyxxoo]

Thank you to our saving grace Jesus Christ who is the way, the truth and the life ✝️♥️

[@scottm4042]

@@manuelteixeira2496 FYI. I believe "Alpha" is spelled with a "ph".

[@flourishers]

This is what Dr James Tour has being pointing out to origin of life researchers and asking them, but they still didn't have any answers. Amazing creative power of God🙏✝🙏

[@MrWookie21]

Romans 1:15- Every human being left to his own should come to the knowledge of the existence of God through his intelligence. But it's more difficult to know the attributes of God since very few people have the intelligence of ancient Greek philosophers. But even this knowledge doesn't bring salvation that may only be obtainable by Revelation of the Scripture.

[@OlegLankin]

The thing keeping people from seeing evidence of God through all of creation is their sin nature. In other words, at their core, people don't want know God, so when they see evidence of him, they almost subconsciously deflect it and rationalize it with atheistic explanations. But God, in his patience, chooses some of us to pursue and gently break through this stubbornness, to open our eyes to know him.

[@MrWookie21]

@@OlegLankin I know. We must make a difference between not having faith and being atheic. Because faith can be obtained, but we cannot not be able to come to the knowledge of the existence of a transcendent and unique God. Those who can't achieve it, it's for moral reasons ; it shakes their life. And as you said it comes from their moral capacity that has been degraded. It's very serious. That's why God in His mercy sends chastisement for man to get back on tracks as described in Romans 1:18-32. And yes once we have been called by God, we start to understand what is going on on earth. We coexist in an environment crowded with different kinds of people in regards of Spirituality. It's like living on another planet!

[@Steveross2851]

Why can't God use guided evolution as His means of creation the way a baker bakes a cake (thus removing randomness from the equation while still making creation a process God sets in motion)? For scientists the "reason" is that no one pays them to tell us what they don't know (and what scientists don't know is nearly everything). For a ministry the "reason" is that any being countless trillions of times smarter and more powerful than humans (for all practical purposes a God) would claim to be "all mighty" and "all knowing" since we're all much too ignorant and "dense" to deduce such a being's limitations if any anyway. Surely creation is far from perfect but God warns us not to complain about His defective workmanship (e.g. in Isaiah 45:9 and Romans 9:20-21). God delights in humbling the "wise" (1 Corinthians 1:27) while raising the lowly on high (Job 5:11). He can even make a donkey speak when He wishes (Numbers 22:28-30). Thus creationists focus much too much on the "complexity" of creation, in this case the human brain while ignoring creation's substantial defects and our defects are many. Even the Bible admits that we are all broken vessels 2 Corinthians 4:6, 8, 9, 11. When the psalmist said he was "fearfully well made (Psalm 139:14)" we must ask "fearfully well made compared to what?" Dr. Grocott rhetorically asks what we should do when brains are impaired or not functioning properly. But the truth is that our brains are always substantially impaired and never really function properly except to the extent that God or His angels intervene to guide them. Fortunately God's angels intervene to guide us quite frequently since we can do very little in our own power (John 5:19, 30).

[@kitzune_gp]

If you want an expert on the brain get a neuro scientist like Sam Harris on your panel, not a psychiatrist. I find it ironic that someone who studies disorders of the brain would suggest that it was created. The fact that it is susceptible to so many psychiatric issues should already be telling of its evolutionary nature.

[@kitzune_gp]

​​@@hatman-rc2vcAre you Christian mate?

[@hatman-rc2vc]

​@@kitzune_gp not a religious man, but neither evolutionist, evolutionists disgust me, promoting violence, crime and abortion is disgusting to the bone, u got that thing in your head called a brain for a reason, now... use it.

[@kitzune_gp]

@@hatman-rc2vc mate, I do not know where you connected evolution with promoting violence, crime and abortion?? At the end of the day, evolution is a matter of science and observation. People understand it to be true on the grounds of this fact. I have used my brain sufficiently thank you, I don't need a stranger's condescending advice. Perhaps you should take your own advice. Pick a side to support your beliefs because sitting on the fence is a cowardly act.

[@Dr_Bobbie]

Sam Harris is so anti-God, agenda driven, what could one hope to learn from him on this topic?

[@ben-str]

I think it was Sam Harris who said with amazement "life started with the first replicating single cell" His interviewer then asked, "who placed the single cell there?"; Sam was stomped.

[@mojoomla]

Why on Earth did the designer design a device which can get screwed up in so many ways ?

[@Call_Me_Rio]

That’s a point that they don’t want to bring up. Imperfections in the design suggest imperfections in the designer

[@Newys53]

❤

[@favillerussell7330]

Yes. This is true. Spirit liberation would be helpful in such cases. Identifiable, specific problems affecting human health should be treated with specific, effective solution. It only makes sense. Problem is, we do not yet have an official appreciation of this approach in the medical field.

[@zentzu4003]

the problem is that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming, if the brain didn’t evolve whatever created it sure as hell wanted us to think we evolved

[@OlegLankin]

I believed statements like that at one time. Now after learning some more and asking questions, I find that to be a silly facade.

[@zentzu4003]

@@OlegLankin it was the opposite for me

[@voiceofreason162]

The first eye, the first wing, the first placenta. How they emerge. Explaining these is the foundational motivation of evolutionary biology,” says Armin Moczek, a biologist at Indiana University. “And yet, we still do not have a good answer. This classic idea of gradual change, one happy accident at a time, has so far fallen flat.” Armin Moczek is a German evolutionary biologist and full professor at Indiana University Bloomington, USA. Widely believed and accepted, yes. Backed by the sciences, no.

[@zentzu4003]

@@voiceofreason162 what’s the alternative scientific explanation? word of mouth? that’s on the border of psuedoscience consider all the possible variations of species that could exist and yet everything is so similar there are the same retroviruses found in human and chimp DNA, unless we share a common ancestor who contracted the virus, the mathematical chance is close to impossible

[@OlegLankin]

​@@zentzu4003 even on the surface, that doesn't seem like a problem, as viruses can go even from birds to humans, not even speaking of chimps. Would that be a proof to you that we're related to birds? That's very tentative and wishful "proof".

[@favillerussell7330]

Dr. Grocott, Thank you for delightfully explaining the amazing manner of brain function and your conclusion that it is created. However, the overall challenge in this great debate for many is, how to posit a reconciliatory position of true 'creation and change' re, all entities. What Original Principle is at the root and heart of our dynamic world? Whether it's a simple or complex being, organ, cell, or particle. Any idea? 😊

[@jeffmoger2311]

Why is this woman, who very obviously knows nothing about evolution, offering an opinion on evolution?

[@seancapuano2505]

She said "Monkey to a man" and monkeys turning to humans. 🤣🤣🤣

[@boxelder9167]

I know multiple people that studied evolution and were Atheists who later in life became Creationists. They are often accused of not understanding evolution and it doesn’t matter if they have a degree in it or if they taught it… Just the fact that they no longer believe that it’s a viable explanation somehow proves that they never understood the theory to begin with. Maybe the problem is that evolution doesn’t have a viable mechanism. Randomized mutations plus time doesn’t explain microbes to man even if we give it more time. Mutations accumulate and destroy the good information faster than new information could ever be produced. Eventually we will all go extinct because we accumulate more mutations than we can sustain. We may be able to jump. We may be able to jump a lot. But we will never be able to jump to the moon no matter how much time we spend jumping. That doesn’t mean that we don’t understand jumping. It just means that we have also learned about gravity and see that jumping has limits.

[@OlegLankin]

​@@boxelder9167 that's awesome, thank you.

[@uselogic1]

Hi Jeff. Hope you are doing well. There is a question on evolution that I have been asking for quite a while, but have not had a proper reply yet. I sincerely hope that you will be able to give me an answer to the following question: There are thousands of examples of micro evolution, or slow small variations within a species over time, such as the various shapes and sizes of the beaks of Darwin's finches on the Galapogos islands. Since evolution is a continuous process, can you please give me one testable and observable example, i.e. the scientific method, of modern day Darwinian macro evolution in action, in other words where one kind of animal is busy changing into a completely new and different kind of animal - i.e. Darwin's change of kinds theory? Thanks & keep well.

[@marioserafin3177]

​@@uselogic1I think you are going to wait to the end of infinity to get the correct answer to that question.

[@ayiahassan4533]

Here’s food for thought: If you have beads of information and you formed them in strings of info, there was a whole static background behind the reason of each bead of information that tied it to the next bead but you become unable to remember or reason the context, those bead of information in the order that they flowed would seem random. You wouldn’t find information you would only find randomness. Here is the law that is too often forgotten, this reality is bipolar and on a spectrum at the same time. It is information and randomness It is here and also not here Real and not real Good and bad Happy and sad It is the law truth is subjective and also objective. Male and female. There is definitely something behind it, something intelligent that glues it all together. But evolution is real, there is also a guiding hand. And now both truths can exist.

[@watchman2001]

Your talking quantum mechanics ? I see it as the ship in a bottle, by pulling a single string the ship unfolds in it ...

[@mikeekim242]

psychiatrist, Dr Dianne Grocott? Why is a psychiatrist who knows nothing about evolution talking nonsense?

[@jil427]

Listen again

[@mikeekim242]

@@jil427 Why? Out of the gates she's FOS.

[@squirrelfrendotcom]

Umm, you do know that she's an MD, and went to years of extra school to be a psychiatrist? Something like 6-8 years studying, so certainly she knows what she's talking about. Or do you have more degrees than she does? That's what I thought...

[@kbeetles]

Go on, argue with this ignorant person. Let's hear your arguments!

[@abdulkaderalsalhi557]

Thank you for the video. An interesting interview, dense in content, about the approximately ‘one-kilogram gray matter’ that enables us to think, ‘select’, and behave. I think even the simplest-atom, the hydrogen-atom is “designed” to play its role in “creating the world, the Cosmos” according to the “laws” laid down by the “Designer”. Hydrogen-atom has “designed precise energy-levels” and “designed precise electronic-orbitals, s, p, d, f, ... etc. s-type spherical, p-type has two-lobes, d-type has 4-lobes, and so on. This is a design worked out by a designer. The shape of the orbitals has a profound effect on the “properties of water”, which in turn has a profound effect on the “evolution of life-systems” in accordance with “laws” laid down by the “Designer”. I think there are two types of non-believers (atheists), one will never believe because his brain (Mind) lacks some component or caught a “disease”! The second type may turn to be a believer when he (she) gets involved in discussion with believers. .., God (The Designer) to human: I love you even if you had done a mistake, but don’t do it again! wish you all the best.

[@callmeishmael3031]

“There must be a designer” does not prove there must be a designer.

[@denismclean8382]

@callmeishmael3031 I think a little more than that was said.

[@stevey2741]

Then what is?

[@sergkapitan2578]

@@callmeishmael3031 that is at least says that something very intelligent does not come from nothing.... Even "simple" something does not "just like that" comes in form and order from nothing... Can you imagine AI without programmer??? I must programm it and teach first.... :)))

[@ben-str]

It's a multiple-choice: A. intelligent designer B. randomness C. evolved from Primordial soup C Derr...what's for lunch

[@dud3man6969]

You should try to have a theoretical physicist on to discuss the quantum mechanical properties of the brain/mind.

[@sampoornamkannan]

The good lady's enthusiasm is infectious.

[@sampoornamkannan]

You would think that the brain is a highly evolved semi conductor chip.

[@orrinkelso9295]

What a wonderful discussion. Really enjoyed it!

[@uttscharlesbagley501]

The brain can be designed AND evolve. This discussion does not clarify how the vertebrate brain, altough complex even in primitive species, builds on a relatively simple plan adding layers with each stage of evolution (fish brain, reptile basal ganglia brain, paleocortfical mammalian nonprimate brain, and neocortical primate brain). This natural progression of the neuroanatomy which is accompanied by peripheral aspects of the body anatomy (limbs, then upright posture freeing the fingers, air breathing, tongue and larynx for speech, is the strongest evidence of evolution. It doesn't preclude a design. A complex building starts off with a blueprint and "evolves" as the contractors finish their work sequentially in the various structural and functional components of the building. In the case of life on earth we don't know if the blueprint itself evolves. Invoking a design or designer doesn't explain anything except to those who want to believe in Genesis as literally true. Science requires mechanisms, Genesis does not offer a mechanism for how you get from God ( "the unified field") to even the most primitive life forms. It seems likely that as science becomes able to explain some of the self organizing properties of nature this will become clearer. Of course science cannot avoid the infinite regression of "where did the self organizing properties come from". It also is unlikely that the universe magically appears as a creation in all its progressive complexity.

[@db90990]

Yes, random chance, happenstance would not & Could not result in the Intelligent, Intricate Design - this speaks of Divine Creation☝️✝️

[@stormbreaker309]

​@@richardgregory3684 If it's not random, then you're suggesting there is a pattern, if there is a consistent pattern, then there is intelligence, because information doesn't just arrange themselves. Write your software code halfway and wait for it to evolve, good luck.

[@stormbreaker309]

@@richardgregory3684 Who designed the AI generating the code? It's intelligence, AI didn't just fly into our computers and start doing things, people wrote the programs for AI, trust me, I write code for a living and if I miss a comma or a fullstop, that code is not going to work. You speak because you have no clue the complexity of a single cell or the complexity of how this message I am writing reaches you. Trust me a whole load of intelligent people designed the systems to make it possible. Show me one thing you have seen evolve, show how information magically entered something without any intervention whatsoever. Show me!

[@stormbreaker309]

@@richardgregory3684 who designed the AI?

[@dominic_n]

Great conversation

[@hefaiiston]

Why is the concept of evolution so hard for many people to understand.. Complexity comes from simplicity. With the immense timespan since the first proto life emerged of course a complicated thing as a brain can emerge. I think the huge timespan is incomprehensible for us humans to grasp.

[@clivejenkins4033]

There so much we will never understand, amazing discussion

[@brydenmcginn0369]

This was fascinating!!

[@YusefMG]

In the Qur'an god says 4) We have certainly created man in the best of stature;[1948] [1948]- i.e., upright, symmetrical, and balanced in form and nature.

[@ben-str]

The Quran copied from the Old Testament.

[@globalcoupledances]

And standing upright was by mutations. Mutation = God

[@YusefMG]

@@globalcoupledances The information in DNA has been perfectly crafted (by god) to achieve the form that humans have today

[@michaelmcwilliams5403]

The brain evolving is pardon the joke, a no-brainer. A small amount of neurones in basic animals gives them huges advantages to compete in a fitness landscape. The more complex the neural net, the more advantages. Natural selection will rapidly go from a small amount of neurons to an optimal amount in a very short period of time.

[@abadazadytgaming7200]

@@michaelmcwilliams5403 ok interesting, just curious are you known in the science world?

[@mavrosyvannah]

DNA IS NOTHING LIKE A SUPER COMPUTER...

[@JesusSavedYouu]

Consciousness does not evolve or appear from unconscious.

[@MrWookie21]

​@@taminy2051Because they coexist ; but are separated by a veil. Inside human's soul the spiritual is separated from the animal. The spiritual is foolishness for the animal human because of this thick veil hiding the consciousness of man that separates him from God. The natural mind of the human being cannot perceive the reality and identity of sin that separates him from God, because of the fall. When this veil is torn and separated, the human being start to see himself who he really is. He becomes conscious of his of his own nature, substance and essence. He stops living like an animal; a sensitive being by elevating himself on a spiritual level. The animal self is executed. This process take place by what Jesus, the Son of God, accomplished on the Cross. When the believer identifies himself with Christ Who sacrificed Himself for our sins, by taking our place on the Cross, that we might be redeemed, separated from our sinful nature that is crucified on the Cross. The veil is torn in ourselves and the believer is liberated from his old adamic nature he will bury after his death, with Christ and leave behind after his resurrection from the tomb. The veil is left in the tomb as Jesus left His shroud in the tomb in which He was buried. The human being resurrects in Christ becoming a new creature being able to cloth himself with new garments of righteousness. He's restored and becomes a new man by being in fellowship with God, through His Word and by being led by His Spirit, the Holy Spirit.

[@josephmore6361]

The proof consist in the speaker's failure to understand, hence it must be God's creation

[@yolandesolomons7611]

AMAZING! THANK YOU!

[@Sempapax]

The complexity of the brain is exactly what suggests that the brain wasn’t created but evolved through many years against the pressures of the world.

[@rizdekd3912]

Exactly. The complexity of life in general suggests an undirected mechanism rather than intelligent design. Complexity isn't a desired feature if life could have been designed to function simply. It leads to many of the problems we have with life forms...disease, deformity, defects and disaster. I pose this to those who contend that the complexity of life convinces them it was designed by asking if life was simple and still functional, would that make them more or less likely to think life evolved. I get a lot of push back on every different aspect of the question and never get a straight answer. That shows me that it's NOT the complexity that leads them to believe life was created but something else...like its functionality.

[@zeroxox777]

Evolution and design are both evident: there is nothing mutually exclusive about these things. Evolution is through the conflict of designed things. This conflict drives evolution but is evidently itself a designed process, but by design I do not mean the design of a conscious entity. I mean that structure and process produce something of incredible complexity and harmony. To say anything more then this is mere belief, speculation, and it has no place in a truly sane and clear mind.

[@Kannada_First]

Okay. Those who don’t believe in human evolution, tell me why the human brain that we know couldn’t device a smartphone way back in 1890?

[@niyazzmoithu20]

Stupid Question.

[@Kannada_First]

@ No question is a stupid question. That’s science for you.

[@joemeschke]

I actually had a brain injury a year ago and have a left neglect. It's crazy and really sucks.

[@watchman2001]

It always is, like me with my eye problems, don't let it influence your mood, I make fun of it if possible 😂

[@0NeverEver]

I am completely open to invetigate the design theory. But the fact that this is presented by a psychatrist makes me skeptical. They tend to be the worst scientists of all disciplines. The comparision with alchemy is fully deserved.

[@ben-str]

Study DNA. DNA is the instruction set dictating cellular replication DNA is much like complex computer code. Instructional in its nature. Then ask yourself, did DNA (evolved) randomly or was (intelligence) created?

[@ben-str]

Note: it takes intelligence to build a computer. It cannot happen by chance.

[@0NeverEver]

@@ben-str I do not believe in the concept of true or "dead" randomness as used by the theory of evolution. But it would be to complicated to explain why. This woman does not anger me because she questions evolution (science has to be open to questioning). She angers me because she is a psychatrist. In my opinion this people have done enough harm to deserve prison.

[@mohammedfakhri4289]

You need to understand that we are what our brain tells us so its not different from the universe thats surrounding you. You are the Universe.

[@christianriddler5063]

KZbin keeps unsubscribing me from your channel. Very strange.

[@edfritz1569]

Hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) really helped my dad after his stroke.

[@hrvad]

Even Dawkins admits that there is design, it's just that he calls it "apparent design". And his goal as a naturalist is to reformulate the design we see in s way that eliminates Good from the picture. In fact, in his book "The Selfish Gene", which I've read, he tells all his stories using teleological language, and he assures us that at any time he can translate all that purposeful languages back into the mechanistic language. It has made me suspect that some of it at least is a bit of a language game. And that the real goal is really to remove God from the equation.

[@hrvad]

@@paulbeardsley4095 Yes, that is a correct statement of the naturalist position. Whether that is correct, is another question. It's certainly not made true by simply inventing a cumbersome way of phrasing things that can always be translated back to easy teleological phrasing. Nor is it proven by you simply stating it. And is there really no need for God? Well, the guest here mentions one topic where God actually helped: the "junk DNA" hypothesis. Naturalists quickly accepted that hypothesis as true, whereas theists instead predicted that this junk DNA would eventually be found to serve a purpose. Another issue is whether it's even safe from a scientific point of view to exclude a priori any kind of design, which is what methodological naturalism does? Sure, if we were at a place where we could dispense with the notion of scientific truth, we could of course do that. But then science would become "The Science", an absolutist notion of truth. However, if you as a scientist believe that the concept of scientific truth still means that you're open to new evidence changing your mind, then you cannot once and for all close the book on design, and you would not insist on defining science in a way that *by definition* excludes the entire body of design inferences. If one were of the cynical persuasion, one could say that this is perhaps a bit of a dirty trick. Sure, theists are biased, and I'm sure you could lecture on that, but so are naturalists. Which is why gap after gap in the evolutionary fossil record doesn't worry the naturalist one bit. The naturalist feels that these undiscovered links in the tree of life simply MUST be there, and he has faith that all of it will eventually be discovered. Until it happens he's perfectly fine with using the theory to fill out the holes in the fossil record. It's sort of the naturalist version of the God of the gaps: "We don't know, and sure we haven't found all the fossils, but we have faith that time, chance, mutations and natural selection explains the gap." In my experience naturalists tend to feel that it's different when they do it 😉 Come sit at the table with the rest of us. You're not in some privileged position that puts you outside of that. Even if you've conveniently convinced yourself of that.

[@rizdekd3912]

@@hrvad "And is there really no need for God? Well, the guest here mentions one topic where God actually helped: the "junk DNA" hypothesis. Naturalists quickly accepted that hypothesis as true, whereas theists instead predicted that this junk DNA would eventually be found to serve a purpose." Do you think 'junk' DNA could be something like fodder/excess 'information' God created in the original DNA strand so ALL the different life forms we are aware of today could have evolved naturally after God created the first life form? Or did God create DNA so it COULD replicate/double/fold and even though it seems like new information when it creates completely different kinds of animals it's really just depending on the ability of DNA to create new information naturally?

[@manuelteixeira2496]

“Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.” Matthew 5:11 (KJV)

[@llkid6760]

Great conversation. ❤❤ Blessings.

[@cultivateyourself]

It is remarkable that spirit set matter in motion. It would be more remarkable for matter to set spirit in motion. JC 2000 AD.

[@donaldrobertson1808]

The environment in which organisms live is the designer of the characteristics that those organisms must possess in order to survive in such an environment. Natural selection is the process that attempts to find strategically successful adaptations that meet those environmental requirements. DNA mutations is the mechanism for creating new genetic characteristics. Sexual reproduction, with organisms having pairs of genes inheriting one from each parent, with quite often one gene being dominant which the characteristic or trait that gets expressed & the other gene being recessive, with its trait remaining silent. The recessive gene's characteristics may be maladaptive for the current environmental requirements. But environmental change could occur with the requirements flipping causing the previously maladaptive recessive gene's characteristics to become adaptive & the dominant gene's characteristics to become maladaptive in our brave new environment, thus organisms can retain genetic variety that may not be environmentally fit at the moment, but can lie dormant in the gene pool for very long periods of time being available to natural selection in case those characteristics happen to be fit for possible future new environmental requirements For example, reptiles such as snakes & lizards, that live in dry, sun scorched, desert environments, have thick leathery skins, while ones that live in shady, wet, watery environments, have thin, slick skins Almost all the intellectual, emotional, & behavioral characteristics that make humans a very unique species, were adaptations that occurred after our ancestors had lost their traditional habitat due to long term drought that had led to severe shrinking of the African rainforest in the Great Rift Valley, which had forced them out on the African savanna that had predators too large & swift for them to be able to adapt physically for quickly enough before going extinct or finding a new habitat that afforded them the shelter & food sources that would enable them to survive But it turned out, there was a path to strategically successful adaptation for survival, above the neck, primarily, in the human brain Our ancestors had to rapidly improve their intelligence, develop such traits as love, & empathy for members of the group other than just for ones own infant offspring, willingness to altruistically sacrifice oneself for group survival, greatly lessened engagement in intra-group retributive violence, develop the capacity for living in groups tremendously larger than they had previously lived in, at least, when they first successfully set out to travel far out on the savanna, leaving permanently the location, in which they had lived for millions of years in search of a habitat that would provide enough shelter from predation & an abundant enough food source for survival, & groups being egalitarian rather than hierarchical They must have successfully adapted these characteristics, since our ancestors, indeed survived, & we possess those characteristics today

[@ben-str]

"The environment in which organisms live is the designer of what features must have" How did the (environment) there? Soon you'll be using circular logic to answer.

[@ben-str]

DNA mutation - mutation is almost always a (degradation process) at work. It sheds material. It morphs, it doesn't create 'new' things.

[@ben-str]

" sexual reproduction retains genetic variety " I've asked this before. If evolution was successful in replication why go the route to create sexes? If evolution created sexes, how long did evolution take to create a penis and vagina? How did evolution know they belonged together?

[@donaldrobertson1808]

@@ben-str What you assert in your first sentence is absolutely true. However, what you concluded in your last sentence is most decidedly false. Mutations almost always being deleterious is not the same as them always being so. "Almost" qualifying your assertion makes all the difference. Some mutations lead to new characteristics that at some point in the future will happen to be the needed adaptations that successfully fill new environmental niches coming about due to changes in the environment

[@donaldrobertson1808]

@@ben-str Natural selection is a bit tautological

[@sanjeevkulkarni4923]

With this logic god was also designed

[@selihter]

@sanjeevkulkarni4923 I believe it! There has to be high tech Gods. Let's make them in our image, the Bible stated; somewhere in genesis.

[@dayair1]

Yes, in the materialistic dimension or realm we live in you would be correct. God does not have his existence in this realm. As it states in Isaiah: “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”

[@toddthurman6643]

You are assuming that God is like everything else and had a beginning.

[@sanjeevkulkarni4923]

@@toddthurman6643 You are also assuming that the universe is like all the things and has a beginning. Remember the Big Bang is beginning only because you have no means to go back than that. Anything prior to it has no connection or effect on anything after the Big Bang. If god is before the big bang it will have no effect on the universe. For all practical purposes god won't exist. To be meaningful god has to exist after the big bang. But in that case he won't be god.

[@ThomasConover]

A God does not follow any rules. A God makes the rules. ❤🙏 God is the greatest engineer of all time

[@j.u.c.o]

I believe the brain is more akin to a radio antennae / receiver than a processing unit. It accesses the cloud consciousness that is shared by all living things. Memories are stored in the consciousness (the soul).

[@l.m.892]

No ... The brain does not appear to be intricately designed. The brain IS intricately designed. I love you guys. Thank you for taking me to class.

[@dangerouzdave1172]

My son has problems with disruption at school and other traits of a miss firing brain. This info has helped me understand him better. The state school is useless at helping him and us only making him.worse. he's very Intelligent but I fear that without real help he will get lost in adulthood.

[@beautylover123]

It is really a “no brainer “ that the brain was designed! The fact that there is some kind of debate about it is just argument for the sake of argument!

[@MahfuzAhmedSayem]

The guest didn’t mention that the human brain has existed for a shorter time than it is capable of making connections (which number in the billions). If addition of single gene can take billion of years for the brain to reorganize, how come human came into existence much later (which is not at least a billion years)? Also, she needs to know a term called "Gene Duplication". Additionally, there is something called neuroplasticity, which helps the brain reorganize, meaning it can adapt to environmental demands. She is telling nothing new. People who have the same views are termed as having Irreducible Complexity.