The Brain Didn’t Evolve - A Psychiatrist Explains Why

[@drspmathew]

As a Physician, every day I stand amazed at how the brain works. Even more amazing to me is that there are still some people who believe that this complex organ, and even life itself, could be the result of a dumb process called evolution.

[@matswessling6600]

if you actually know the anatomy of the brain then you know that brain is structured in a layers.

[@poliincredible770]

Intelligence can only come from an intelligent source.

[@alexojideagu]

So where did the original intelligence come from? Your sentence literally makes no sense.

[@poliincredible770]

@@alexojideagu the original intelligence came from an eternal source of intelligence: God.

[@globalcoupledances]

@poliincredible770 - and where did the intelligence of that God came from? Which university?

[@jimmiewomble416]

​@globalcoupledances you beat me to it. Reading their mental "cheat sheet", I think the standard answer goes something like "God has always been there, but (he got bored one day 6 thousand years ago) he decided to make man, IN HIS OWN IMAGE, except plus a little sin, so he didn't get cocky and try to rebel against me, but I made Satan, because no wait Satan was already in heaven, but my perfect little Angel rebelled, no that doesn't work either, WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION ME, YOUR ALMIGHTY ALL POWERFUL CREATOR, OH DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!". Close enough?

[@georg7120]

So this intelligence source must come from an intelligent source that came from an intelligent source and so on'....

[@johnjohnson9658]

Nothing makes sense without God guiding your path !

[@petergriffin012]

@@johnjohnson9658 you mean the warrior god of ancient israel Yahweh?

[@MrWookie21]

@@petergriffin012 "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1 Corinthians 1:25)

[@warriorson7979]

*"Fearfully and wonderfully made"* 😌😌

[@richardgregory3684]

And rather poorly made, too.

[@warriorson7979]

@@richardgregory3684 More like poorly degenerated over the millennia due to sin and entropy...🤔😒

[@ulflyng]

@@richardgregory3684 If that is true, we wouldn't have survived as a species....

[@richardgregory3684]

@@ulflyng It only has to work well enough for us to survive long enough to reproduce. There are many parts of the human body that are of poor construction, but sufficiently functional to allow survival of the species.

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

@@ulflyng Oh? Are you actually bringing in natural selection to explain why humans are a successful species? Anyways, evolution doesn’t make perfect organisms. There are innumerable errors, such as genetic disorders and hiccups in developmental pathways, that pervade Biology.

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

And still, there will be people who will not entertain the possibility that "too many coincidences occurring all at once" points to something supernatural, not natural.

[@mchooksis]

Because they are not effing coincidences!! Why can't people get their head around this? It is adaptation and selection. The process is very easy to understand. DNA is nothing like a computer. Each gene on a strand can only do one thing Act as a template for the RNA molecule. They can't compute anything new. All this lady is saying is it's very complex. I don't understand how it could have happened therefore let's invent a magical god, ( and make him in our own image and make him a man too). Then we can say that he did it all through magic. I can understand why unducated middle Eastern men a few thousand years ago would say this. But today? With all the understanding and knowledge we have today? It beggars belief.

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

Too many coincidences leads to too many variations and too many defects and diseases. If you design something, why would you make so many defects? Are we laboratory mice?

[@rygarchamp]

@@FKRaca-pp8ig Life was meant to be hard, not perfect.

[@diegoclark7697]

​@@FKRaca-pp8igyeah like the phones we have don't have faults and defects. Designing something doesn't mean ultimate perfection.

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

@@diegoclark7697 sure, so why that hype of perfect God? Phones are not ultimate designs, but you and I, we are ultimate design if there is no evolution...

[@OlegLankin]

I don't understand evolution, because it makes no sense. I used to think I understood it.

[@cesareomendez6794]

@@OlegLankin evolution is nothing more than a weak explanation of how everything came to be based on a man's opinion. Literally he wrote his own belief of how everything came to be. No evidence or proof! Just mere observation and probable cause. Weak!

[@graemeross6970]

@@cesareomendez6794 That is true if you overlook the vast amount of evidence from numerous sciences.

[@OlegLankin]

​@@graemeross6970 лол

[@ctr7503]

These have been very helpful for strengthening my testimony, to know that there are legitimate scientific reasons to believe, not just the internal proofs God gives, puts my mind at ease regarding the old testament. Thank you.

[@MrWookie21]

We cannot demonstrate scientifically the existence of God ; because this means presenting cause to effect demonstrations. There are only effect to cause demonstration of the existence of God by departing from tangible realities that can be observed by our senses in our environment. These are ways that have been given by Thomas Aquinas leading to the understanding of God's attributes.

[@plousia]

Off topic, but the guest is beautiful with gorgeous hair. I love to see an older woman who doesn't chop her hair short and embraces her natural grey. She's a role model for me!

[@JuergenBertram-ps7sy]

Thank you, ladies, marvellous conversation !😅

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

"With me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of a man’s mind which has been derived from the minds of the lower animals is of any value or at all trustworthy, would anyone trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind if there are any convictions in such a mind?” -Charles Darwin Atheists: “Of course we would!”

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

Just look around you-do you think mankind behaves much differently than animals? Our brain is not as smart as you think. Some individuals are able to piece together bits of information and build knowledge, but as individuals, we are not as remarkable as you might think.

[@ianmonk6211]

We make choices good or bad. Animals just live within their programming. Eat sleep reproduce. Fight for leadership. None do arithmetic write literature make hi tech tools cars planes etc. we may be debase ourselves by falling for Satan's deceptions but we are very different from animals.

[@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440]

Uh oh, a creationist quote-mine!

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@FKRaca-pp8ig I looked around me and I haven't seen an animal create clothing for itself. I haven't seen any animals that create vehicles to travel into outer space. No animals have been observed developing new technologies that previous generations of that animal weren't already using. There is a monumental difference in the human brain and animal brains in terms of creative capacity. Our brains were created in the image of God's mind, that is the differentiating factor. This should be good news for atheists. It means you are not just a random monkey mistake. It means your great, great, great... grandkids won't sprout wings and become manhunting gargoyles. It means you were created for a loving purpose by the most intelligent mind in the universe. Accept the love; receive Christ.

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 uh-oh, a materialist who believes he descended from a non-human!

[@Sammyxxoo]

Thank you so much for this interview. I didn’t know about Dr Dianne Grocott until now and I absolutely loved listening to her. I’m just sad the interview is finished but I will definitely be watching this again and again. She is fascinating to listen to. I love when i stumble across people like her. She is now one of my favorites

[@moonshiner5412]

So enlightening! I appreciate these discussions. I believe just like comment below that I can use this information in my discussions with people about the existence of God. I wonder if I am not borderline ADHD because my brain is constantly going. I am 70 and I believe the Lord helped me figure out how to use my brain. I was (still am at heart) a software engineer. Most of the time when I had to develop a solution to a problem, I played games. Usually I came up with the solution in the middle of a game. When in grade school, my teachers usually gave me more work because I was always done very quickly and then bothered the other kids. When in university, I did better when I had 5 or 6 classes as opposed to when I only had 2 classes. Anyway, great information. Keep up the awesome work! God Bless You All!

[@biosciencegeek5057]

I actually need your guidance on this. Currently debating atheists on twitter. I specialize in biochemistry but have recently delved into machine learning and programming. Can you check my points as a software engineer? I used your field as a validation that randomness cannot give us the systems we see in the cell. It is a lengthy response, but would appreciate your input. Would you be willing to help me check the validity of the statements I made? It would make it more convincing if I do not make statements that are theoretically wrong in your field😅

[@callumclarke1733]

Intelligence can only come from intelligence, Life can only come from life.

[@richardgregory3684]

So you have either created an infinite regression, or you want to engage in special pleading by exempting the "first intelligence" and "first life" from the rukes you made up.

[@OlegLankin]

​​@@richardgregory3684 not if you understand that we Christians believe in a God that answers all those questions. He is without a beginning. But you do, you're just pretending not to.

[@Mario_Sky_521]

Naaa, they say life comes from pond scum, chance and the laws of nature. And....lots and lots of wishful thinking. Everyone knows life comes from rock dust and water over time. Or God did it.

[@richardgregory3684]

@@OlegLankin _He is without a beginning_ As I said, special pleading. Of course Christians just turn their intelligence off and say "GOD DUNNIT"

[@ClifffSVK]

@@callumclarke1733 Cars can only come from cars

[@eddymaatkamp]

Thank you! I was wondering, will there be a follow-up about the 'mind-brain' problem? Monism/dualism? I love Wilder-Penfield's works, for example his book The Mystery of the Mind. I'd love to see a discussion about that subject 😊

[@creationministriesintl]

We'll add it to our list of ideas for future episodes!

[@eddymaatkamp]

@@creationministriesintl Great! Thanks!

[@fayolalulusandy5546]

Irreducibly complex?

[@yolandesolomons7611]

AMAZING! THANK YOU!

[@travishunt8999]

Spot on 👌🏽

[@Xyrogenix]

{Isa 55:6 KJV} Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: {Isa 55:7 KJV} Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. {Isa 55:8 KJV} For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. {Isa 55:9 KJV} For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. God bless you all. 🙂

[@graemeross6970]

Very scientific!

[@Sammyxxoo]

There is no greater wisdom than the wisdom of God ❤

[@MrWookie21]

@@Sammyxxoo And that is the Word of God, Jesus Himself! (1 Cor. 1 :30)

[@manuelteixeira2496]

I thank my Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ, The Begotten Son Of God Almighty, and The Alfa, Ómega, and Triune God. I decide every day to submit and obey with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

[@richardgregory3684]

How incredibly sad.

[@Sammyxxoo]

⁠@@richardgregory3684 it’s incredibly sad you can’t see how beautiful that comment is.

[@Sammyxxoo]

Thank you to our saving grace Jesus Christ who is the way, the truth and the life ✝️♥️

[@scottm4042]

@@manuelteixeira2496 FYI. I believe "Alpha" is spelled with a "ph".

[@MrWookie21]

Romans 1:15- Every human being left to his own should come to the knowledge of the existence of God through his intelligence. But it's more difficult to know the attributes of God since very few people have the intelligence of ancient Greek philosophers. But even this knowledge doesn't bring salvation that may only be obtainable by Revelation of the Scripture.

[@OlegLankin]

The thing keeping people from seeing evidence of God through all of creation is their sin nature. In other words, at their core, people don't want know God, so when they see evidence of him, they almost subconsciously deflect it and rationalize it with atheistic explanations. But God, in his patience, chooses some of us to pursue and gently break through this stubbornness, to open our eyes to know him.

[@MrWookie21]

@@OlegLankin I know. We must make a difference between not having faith and being atheic. Because faith can be obtained, but we cannot not be able to come to the knowledge of the existence of a transcendent and unique God. Those who can't achieve it, it's for moral reasons ; it shakes their life. And as you said it comes from their moral capacity that has been degraded. It's very serious. That's why God in His mercy sends chastisement for man to get back on tracks as described in Romans 1:18-32. And yes once we have been called by God, we start to understand what is going on on earth. We coexist in an environment crowded with different kinds of people in regards of Spirituality. It's like living on another planet!

[@boni2786]

Great!

[@Lettie22]

What is the explanation for left hemisphere neglect?

[@OlegLankin]

​@@Lettie22 a stroke. As for why it only happens on the left and not on the right, I'd also like to know. I wonder if anyone has been able to answer this yet.

[@Lettie22]

​@@OlegLankinI realise it's brain damage of some sort that causes left neglect. My question is a deeper one and it sounds like you are wondering the same. If the right hemisphere can compensate and not neglect the right side, why is the left unable to compensate and not neglect the left side? Also, is this the same in children? Children can learn to speak when they have a damaged left hemisphere, but adults aren't able to. Perhaps children would not experience left neglect in the same way. However, I would be very interested in any hypothesis for the mechanics of left neglect.

[@OlegLankin]

@@Lettie22 I think children might not get left hemisphere neglect. She said that they have a lot more neuroplasticity and their brains are a lot more adaptable, but in older people, not so much.

[@randallhansen9166]

She s showing how stupid the idea y brain just came about by chance is!Bible says they became fools!

[@graemeross6970]

Richard, Don't you realise that after creation everything was 'very good' It was man's sin that caused disease and death.Lol.

[@OlegLankin]

It's like you're starting to understand it, except for the lol.

[@Hank-x5q]

From the human perspective of time compared to the evolving universe within its time dilation-entanglements, it would be incomprehensible for human perception of such natural evolutionary changes.

[@OlegLankin]

Especially when there's no evidence of them ever even happening. Who needs evidence though, when you have a consensus of atheist scientists and compromising theistic evolutionists?

[@Newys53]

❤

[@viki7469]

I think she is Seventh Day Adventist

[@justinjozokos1699]

What makes you say that

[@pavelshalnwv8494]

No atheist ever says, all his achievements is result of just a blind chance

[@graemeross6970]

Expand, whose achievements?

[@technicianbis5250-ig1zd]

So you agree there is an intelligent mind who created everything but you don't believe in God? Excuse me while I bang my head against the wall.

[@valdezfam]

Using statements with should, would, could, should not, does not seem very definitive. Well, at least she does not believe in that the world is only a few thousand years old, so points for that.

[@Bleebleeblahblahblah]

@@valdezfam I used to think like you. The fact you are here watching this tells me you are searching. Keep searching and you will find. I used to think God was for weak people that needed comforting. Look for signs. You might just get slapped up side the head like I did.

[@xX480Xx-u3m]

Ummm yea,you completely missed the video and as a consequence confirmed the whole point of the video!!? All the while unaware and trapped by ignorance and dogma...... 👌

[@valdezfam]

@@xX480Xx-u3m yeah, I got about half way through when I lost interest. The same with many Christians, when they say that scientists must show absolute proof of the Big Bang, evolution and other theories. However, I heard could've, would've, should've more times than I expected. I dont believe that's how you prove something. These "Pillars", have they been proven or are we suppose to just accept them as fact as well?

[@matswessling6600]

the pillars she talk of is in areas she have no expertise in...

[@zentzu4003]

the problem is that the evidence for evolution is overwhelming, if the brain didn’t evolve whatever created it sure as hell wanted us to think we evolved

[@OlegLankin]

I believed statements like that at one time. Now after learning some more and asking questions, I find that to be a silly facade.

[@zentzu4003]

@@OlegLankin it was the opposite for me

[@voiceofreason162]

The first eye, the first wing, the first placenta. How they emerge. Explaining these is the foundational motivation of evolutionary biology,” says Armin Moczek, a biologist at Indiana University. “And yet, we still do not have a good answer. This classic idea of gradual change, one happy accident at a time, has so far fallen flat.” Armin Moczek is a German evolutionary biologist and full professor at Indiana University Bloomington, USA. Widely believed and accepted, yes. Backed by the sciences, no.

[@zentzu4003]

@@voiceofreason162 what’s the alternative scientific explanation? word of mouth? that’s on the border of psuedoscience consider all the possible variations of species that could exist and yet everything is so similar there are the same retroviruses found in human and chimp DNA, unless we share a common ancestor who contracted the virus, the mathematical chance is close to impossible

[@OlegLankin]

​@@zentzu4003 even on the surface, that doesn't seem like a problem, as viruses can go even from birds to humans, not even speaking of chimps. Would that be a proof to you that we're related to birds? That's very tentative and wishful "proof".

[@temporary4384]

That rules out creationists then

[@richardgregory3684]

How ironic, not to realise that if the human brain was the design and creation of a perfect, divine god...the profession of psychiatrist would not exist. LOL!

[@OlegLankin]

Do atheists always miss one part of the Bible when arguing against another? In this case, you missed the fact that human sin has caused a curse from God, a righteous judge, to be laid on his original good creation. I think you already knew that, but were hoping to get away with an easy straw man argument.

[@graemeross6970]

@@OlegLankin So this sin caused deterioation in living creatures. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Any idea of the mechanism whereby this would happen, or is it the hand of god?

[@OlegLankin]

​@@graemeross6970how about mutations? And why wouldn't it be both? It may be hard to understand for atheists, but God rules over every molecule and law of nature.

[@richardgregory3684]

So essentially, the god of the gaps with a large serving on personal incredility on the side. We don;t know, therefore god dunnit, it looks amazing, therefore god dunnit. The human brain is amazingly complex and sophisticated, but it is also riddled with crap "design" flaws that no intelligent desinger would permit, let alone the allegedly perfect and divine designer/creator of the biblical fairy tales. The physical structure of the brain is clearly and obviously the result of evolution by natural selection, a long process of trial/error/elimination, which has produced and amazingly sophisticated and complex, but also highly flawed and clunky, brain. One of the giveaways is that human brains contain a structure unique to primates, which is strong evidence of our shared ancestory (as if genetics was not suffient)

[@FKRaca-pp8ig]

As rightly stated, it takes an 'infinite' amount of time for something to evolve. The same goes for our knowledge; it takes time for us to discover how it all happened. We have moved from a 'God of the gaps' explanation to a scientific approach. For many things once attributed to 'God's hand,' we now have real explanations. Just wait and don't keep falling into the same 'God of the gaps' thinking over and over again. Be patient and wait-people are trying to figure it out and find out who or what this God really is.

[@jerrybessetteDIY]

It's better than evolution of the gaps. God fits the empirical evidence. What the evidence shows is devolution. FYI, I'm a former evolutionist and atheist.

[@mikeekim242]

psychiatrist, Dr Dianne Grocott? Why is a psychiatrist who knows nothing about evolution talking nonsense?

[@jil427]

Listen again

[@mikeekim242]

@@jil427 Why? Out of the gates she's FOS.

[@squirrelfrendotcom]

Umm, you do know that she's an MD, and went to years of extra school to be a psychiatrist? Something like 6-8 years studying, so certainly she knows what she's talking about. Or do you have more degrees than she does? That's what I thought...

[@kbeetles]

Go on, argue with this ignorant person. Let's hear your arguments!

[@jeffmoger2311]

Why is this woman, who very obviously knows nothing about evolution, offering an opinion on evolution?

[@seancapuano2505]

She said "Monkey to a man" and monkeys turning to humans. 🤣🤣🤣

[@boxelder9167]

I know multiple people that studied evolution and were Atheists who later in life became Creationists. They are often accused of not understanding evolution and it doesn’t matter if they have a degree in it or if they taught it… Just the fact that they no longer believe that it’s a viable explanation somehow proves that they never understood the theory to begin with. Maybe the problem is that evolution doesn’t have a viable mechanism. Randomized mutations plus time doesn’t explain microbes to man even if we give it more time. Mutations accumulate and destroy the good information faster than new information could ever be produced. Eventually we will all go extinct because we accumulate more mutations than we can sustain. We may be able to jump. We may be able to jump a lot. But we will never be able to jump to the moon no matter how much time we spend jumping. That doesn’t mean that we don’t understand jumping. It just means that we have also learned about gravity and see that jumping has limits.

[@OlegLankin]

​@@boxelder9167 that's awesome, thank you.

[@leonhanekom2311]

Hi Jeff. Hope you are doing well. There is a question on evolution that I have been asking for quite a while, but have not had a proper reply yet. I sincerely hope that you will be able to give me an answer to the following question: There are thousands of examples of micro evolution, or slow small variations within a species over time, such as the various shapes and sizes of the beaks of Darwin's finches on the Galapogos islands. Since evolution is a continuous process, can you please give me one testable and observable example, i.e. the scientific method, of modern day Darwinian macro evolution in action, in other words where one kind of animal is busy changing into a completely new and different kind of animal - i.e. Darwin's change of kinds theory? Thanks & keep well.

[@marioserafin3177]

​@@leonhanekom2311I think you are going to wait to the end of infinity to get the correct answer to that question.

[@anttisalminen1110]

everything is so complex, that you can only speculate, about everything, like here, and its only speculation, unless you surrender to belief

[@graemeross6970]

Kind of think that's also speculation!

[@anttisalminen1110]

​@@graemeross6970it is!

[@omegaman7456]

Whats wrong with the concept of evolution as a method of creation? Also, each step has value, in its uniqueness.

[@Sammyxxoo]

Are you asking if God used evolution as a method of creation? If so this goes against the teachings in scripture. Dr Walter veith explained it well, he said that evolution requires death as the driving force to create change and so you have survival of the fittest and the one that goes extinct makes room for the one that has genes to propagate the next generation, so death is an essential part that drives the evolutionary process whereas in scripture death is a consequence of sin and there was no death before. So if God used death as a driving force to create humanity over a long period of time then atonement wouldn’t be necessary for something necessary for creation. Now Some people might not believe in the Bible and decide to make up a god that fits into the evolution theory but it will only be a made up god

[@leonardmasano312]

@omegaman7456 You have to change the meaning of evolution to have it being used to create. This is because it is the opposite of design. Remember, nothing was created in evolution. Everything just happened, then evolved!

[@ClifffSVK]

​@@SammyxxooSo we have only 2 options: go with something we observe in nature supported by a ton of evidence or go with something that was written in ancient books with zero evidence.

[@Sammyxxoo]

@@ClifffSVK ancient history is evidence and so are the eye witness testimonies documented in the Bible.

[@Sammyxxoo]

@@ClifffSVK I’m not trying to win any arguments here. I’m just saying what I think. You’re entitled to your own opinion. I hope you have a nice day 😊

[@tolgauzmanoglu]

We don't need religion to believe in a designer. The concept of a creator or designer is self-evident, while religion is a human-made construct. It's important to distinguish between the two and recognize that there is no inherent connection between God and religion.

[@OlegLankin]

Not sure I understand. If there's a God, should we know who he is, and wouldn't he have revealed himself to his creatures who he had created with a mind like ours, and wouldn't it be right to worship such a Creator?

[@tolgauzmanoglu]

@@OlegLankin I understand your perspective. It's human nature to ponder why things happen, but it's also important to recognize our limitations as humans. We may not fully comprehend the reasons behind certain actions, especially those attributed to a higher power or a designer.

[@OlegLankin]

@@tolgauzmanoglu I would think that for this reason, he would reveal himself to us by speaking, as it seems that he did, not only through the creation which tells us much about his wisdom, power, creativity and goodness, but also through the scriptures, that is, the Bible, which has validated its own truthfulness and supernatural nature by historical accuracy, consistency between all of its human writers, and fulfillment of multiple very significant prophecies, centuries later, by people who may not have even been familiar with the prophecies, like the Romans crucifying Jesus, or the conquests of Alexander the Great and his heirs, all foretold in the book of Daniel. Although atheists dismiss some of these prophesies by claiming that they were written after the fact (atheists don't seem to provide actual evidence of this idea), they can't dismiss the prophecy about the killing of the Messiah and the subsequent destruction of Jerusalem - because a copy of the book of Daniel was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were clearly written and hidden in the cave before the life of Jesus. Therefore, it couldn't have been written after the fact. This is just one of many clear prophecies in the Bible that were fulfilled after they were given.

[@Sammyxxoo]

Whether we like to admit it or not we all need to have a personal relationship with God

[@jaiteim]

designed...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ClifffSVK]

by Gucci himself :D