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This video brings you back to the very start of the conflict between Ireland and Britain. From the Anglo-Normans, to the Reformation, to the Ulster Plantation, to various Irish Rebellions, in this video, we'll discuss how it all began.

[@kamilfiryn]

Reminds me old joke: What's the only word in english with six silent letters?? Londonderry Greetings from Poland Dave! Love your videos!

[@davyholden]

Thanks buddy. Delighted you're enjoying them 😊

[@phillipnoone8044]

Love your work. I'm Australian with an Irish surname ; but unfortunately I have no Irish accent as the Noones have been in Australia for a few generations. I LOVE all things Irish, thanks for your work

[@davyholden]

@@phillipnoone8044 thanks so much Phillip. I'm heading to Melbourne in March. Can't wait to see it 😁

[@DonBean-ej4ou]

This joke is so funny that I laughed.🤣

[@2tankgirl]

⁠@@davyholdenyou’ll find plenty of Fenians here in Melbourne. Myself included, I’m the daughter of a Callanan that immigrated. Irish fit in well here as so much of the current Australian culture & personality stems from Ireland. I swear Aussie’s “she’ll be right mate” is just their irish heritage saying “it’ll be grand” 😂 but prepare yourself for some Irish Americanness here with the.. ”my great great great great great grandfathers cousins dog was irish so I am too!”. You’ll have a blast here, it’s like visiting your overseas cousins. 😊

[@SuperSbuk]

Love the vid. My fathers parents migrated to wales from newry in the 50s my surname is scottish and i now live in england. The real history of the world is we've all been taking from each other since time began. The only real hope for people is that we can all accept that and just move on with our lives, in peace with each other

[@An-Chliste]

Davy, Mo dheartháir, Your post is thought-provoking and greatly appreciated! GRMA!!

[@davyholden]

Go raibh míle maith agat 😊

[@seangleason260]

First generation American, my family immigrated to Philadelphia during the Troubles. Staunch Irish Catholic lad who instilled a staunch patriotic love for my country- 🇺🇸. He also instilled a Patriotic love for my heritage and Irish people who i was collectively raised by, i was blessed with an amazing childhood. My da passed a few years ago from Colon Cancer, but its because of him i deeply appreciate your work and i know he would have absolutely loved it as well. 🇮🇪 🤝 🇺🇸

[@EpicAelflaed]

The Irish have a mix of English tribes too mainly English

[@jmo8525]

Thank you for the history lesson and the time and energy you take to make your videos.

[@davyholden]

Thank you 😊

[@GaryG1974]

Davy, I have been following your channel for a while. You have taught me more than I ever learnt from school. Thank you so much.

[@phillipnoone8044]

These videos are great, thanks for your hard work

[@EpicAelflaed]

You were born to do this - great content - from England 👍

[@martinkdoorstoperception.1913]

Brilliant work..

[@Fenian1213a]

Davy, this one is the best yet. Very well produced and informative. You should be commended. Keep up the good work.

[@davyholden]

Thanks so much! Delighted you enjoyed it 😊

[@denrossol]

Very interesting, thank you for explaining history in such clear and detailed way. Looking forward for more episodes like that. For me as a person who immigrated to Ireland about two years ago is very important to know the history.

[@davyholden]

Thank you so much for taking the time to learn of our history. You're an absolute gem!

[@alanfox691]

Your explaining history not from a neutral point of view, but from an Irish Republican point of view. Myself I am from the other side of the fence, but if I was explaining history, I would try harder to do it from a neutral point of view. There are two sides to every story in history. Let's be honest on both sides of this eternal conflict there has been. Let's put it this way events that should not have ever happened. History is an interwoven fabric it may look simple but it is far more complex than you would first think.

[@markross8309]

Very good, good telling of history, good camera footage, video editing and everything I seen kept my attention. Love it, you have a great talent and I hope you keep sharing it.

[@davyholden]

Thanks so much Mark!

[@ianmedford4855]

​@@davyholdenIf these old Irish patriots could gaze into the future and see the current crop of Irishmen defacto handing the nation over to North Africa, they probably wouldn't have bothered loading their magazines.

[@paulbrennan2018]

Excellent video. Very informative.

[@davyholden]

Thank you Paul!

[@williambuckley2214]

Great content, I know a lot about the rising, war of independence, the troubles etc. However, I knew very little about the history prior to those times and the first English settlement on Ireland. This was great, will have to watch it a few times to take it all in. :)

[@asnowman8094]

Look even further back to gain a different perspective? I'm Scottish for me the Irish invaded our west coast forming a kingdom which straddled the Irish sea. This sea straddling kingdom went on to become one of the founding members of Scotland around 900. That Kingdom was Dal Riata and it's lands included most of Ulster I believe. Strange isn't it Ulster literally became a founding part of Scotland 600 years before the period being addressed in the video due to Irish invasion/conquest/colonisation of Scottish western coast and Islands.

[@patrickdwyer3833]

Very informative thank you for making these videos..

[@davyholden]

Thank you Patrick!

[@VoodooHousefly]

I'm so grateful for you and your channel Davy, it's about time someone began to spread the truth! 🇮🇪

[@davyholden]

Delighted you're enjoying it. Thank you so much 😁

[@ianmedford4855]

Just in time to hand Ireland over to North African immigrants!! Hooray!!

[@VoodooHousefly]

@@ianmedford4855 Ah yes because nearly the entire western world isn't multicultural at this point 😂 I could call you names but I think you've painted yourself the fool enough with your comment.

[@rolandhawken6628]

All this is well known ,by every one

[@rolandhawken6628]

It is a little too late for a return to school ,the opticians might be a better option . Then a typinf course and I could be perfect ,or near. At 77 years old who cares any way ? Well you do ,bur tough sunny you always have the option not to read .

[@seamusin1697]

A very well done synopsis of over 800 years of Irish history. My late father would have enjoyed this and your efforts to educate and inform others about critical historic events which at their core demonstrate the resilience and strength of a people that have endured enormous hatdship and injustuce over the course of their history. My great aunt used to say that we should never do to others what was done to us, a lesson she learned from her father, my great grandfather. Many thanks, Davy. -Séamus Byrnes

[@Jen999]

Awesome this is .. excellent editing .. and those pics are amazing .. Still ., my favorite thing is your personal touch.. being there where it happened ., is what makes these shine..🌟☘ Btw ., your accent is beautiful.. one of the best parts of these videos .. brilliant touch ⚘☘ Jen999💜💙

[@davyholden]

Thank you so much Jen. Really appreciate that and I'm delighted you're enjoying these stories! 😊

[@Jen999]

@@davyholden Awesome they are .. appreciate you so much we do⚘☘

[@sandidavis820]

Davy, I sure appreciate you doing this. You look so cold, I'm sure it is. I know it's cold here and I want summer back so much. Thank you, Davy

[@davyholden]

Thank you Sandi! It surely was a cold day 😄

[@Irelandforever609]

Great watch thank you 👍

[@davyholden]

Thank you 😊

[@roseanne9986]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks

[@davyholden]

Thank you!

[@SteveCopps]

A concise potted history! Great stuff👍

[@karukun0212]

Wow! These videos are on fire. So love learning this amazing history. And, you go right there and show everything. It's really something how deep these stories run within us. I see my own g-gpa Owen Donal O'Sullivan Beare escaping about 1654 from Dursey Island at the tip of Ireland to France and then America, one of the last stands against Cromwell; just one small part of a nation's 800 year struggle for freedom. So many gave so much.

[@Dublinireland5]

, The North and the south of Ireland will always be a different way of life, just like the North and the south of England, that is also a different way of life, but it is one country,, it is time for England to do the right thing by Ireland and bring independence to Ireland once and for all...

[@Dublinireland5]

Look up at the Irish Sky, look the land is bright ,.....

[@onaematopia]

Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪

[@karyldavidkidd7111]

You are a beautiful man. These videos you create are succinct, well produced and properly presented. Well done. Thank you

[@davyholden]

Thank you buddy!

[@Erin_-]

Great video once again! Love from Finland

[@davyholden]

Thank you buddy! 🇫🇮

[@tomhayes4782]

Love your vids Davy.... Im English by birth but Irish in blood.. Dad from Limerick Mum from Co Down.. Erin Go Bragh!

[@davyholden]

Thank you so much Tom!

[@fyrdman2185]

Back to ireland with you then paddy

[@cianmaher945]

Brilliant video would love more like this

[@instantcurry2800]

Nice to see ya in my parish down in baginbun keep doing your great work

[@davyholden]

Lovely spot! Thanks so much.

[@chickensandwich8808]

Greatly appreciate this. While there are a lot of history channels that discuss and go over this topic, there are few that are from someone native to the culture and history being talked about.

[@liamoconnor3010]

Very interesting. Great videos.

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

It's the sense of superiority for me that permeates throughout history in settler colonialism that I am frustrated about. I'm learning the history of global oppression world wide. Thank you

[@davyholden]

Thank you!

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

@@davyholden you're welcome. I'm new around here but learning.

[@davyholden]

@@Theinfamouskiki411 Welcome to the community! 😁

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@davyholdenPresbyterians are Protestants

[@chickensandwich8808]

Absolutely! A lot of what we are seeing in the West Bank regarding Isreali settlers is almost identical to the way Elizabeth I was able to cement British rule in Ireland by way of pushing out the Indigenous Irish people and selling the land cheaply to Norman settlers. This is kind of the prototype that would become a normal place in colonialism at its height in the 1700s and continue. It's why a good number of the Irish today support a free Palestine because of how much their plight mirrors the Irish.

[@darrengriffin9842]

May all those who fought and died in the cause of irish freedom Rest In Eternal Peace

[@davyholden]

🇮🇪💚

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@davyholdenThe Act of Union of 1800 was absorbing the Kingdom of Ireland which was part of the British empire into the United Kingdom of Great Britain. The border was decided a number of years after the Anglo Irish treaty of 1921. At the time of the Norman invasion Louth was part of Ulster and the Irish traditionally spoken in Louth was Ulster Irish or a more eastern Ulster version of Irish.

[@SeanWall-gc4od]

Keep up the great work Mo chara . Great video's

[@lostboys_uk]

That first 4 minutes is one of the best & most concise summarys on the 800 year conflict I've ever seen, thanks Davy for the work you're doing to spread our important history

[@The_Republic_of_Ireland]

Mighty going as usual Davy, could you cover some of the war crimes from the civil war?

[@davyholden]

Thank you pal. I have an Irish Civil War video coming. It's taking a long time. I want to make sure it's perfect as it's such a complicated issue.

[@The_Republic_of_Ireland]

@@davyholden no hassle boy, and as a fellow historian it's great to both see and hear how you much respect you have for irish history. The civil war obviously being one of the most controversial

[@onaematopia]

Great video 🇮🇪

[@ricardomcmahon5658]

New subscriber ..Brilliant narration friend..is there a part 2

[@williamhemmings2879]

A wonderful and concise description of invasion of Ireland.

[@jeanriordan4892]

Ghéin here from Ireland here and I will check out what you are talking about, no hate here. Slán du foil.( by for now).😊

[@fivetwoeight528]

Great channel and very honest .

[@callumaustintaylor7822]

I'm loving the longer-form content, Davy! I would like to make a suggestion however. I find it difficult to follow a lot of the events when you're talkign about the kingdoms and all the events between them. I believe the way you speak so fast could cause me some issue. I think the speed you talk at works really well with the reels and shorts, but in longer form content like this, I'd believe that the people looking for longer form content like myself wouldn't mind a slower pace to help us soak in what you're explaining. Anyhow, not trying to sound the arse! I'm loving this form of content from you and can't wait to watch more ❤

[@machanrahan9591]

I once heard a Scots lady tell an englishman "It's no ma accent, it's your ears". No offense meant, I've just always wanted to use the line.

[@Paul-eb4jp]

That was brilliant and so concise that it can't fail to hold our attention, I'm English and we were not taught as much as we should have been about our shared history, when you consider around half our school were second generation Irish it should have been high on the curriculem.

[@DonBean-ej4ou]

Was it a Catholic school?

[@EpicAelflaed]

It because it’s complex and stirs negativity

[@Paul-eb4jp]

@@DonBean-ej4ou No, the local Catholic school was probably nearer 100% 2nd and 3rd generation Irish it was a very good school, ours was rough.

[@TheEddiePing]

What may blow your mind more I learnt more about Irish history during a thing called orientation for service schooling I had during my years training at 16 as a junior leader. It was from my gained knowledge that I can assure you I voted with my boots when it came to going to Ireland and it was long before I got hoofed out the Army knowledge is power thanks for enlightening

[@EpicAelflaed]

Half the school Irish in England, I doubt it .. more like Muslim .. the Irish are lower in numbers now leaving the UK than ever before Soon the Irish will be the ethnic minority in Ireland

[@jackoshea7668]

It’s complex but we’re closer than some people care to admit 🇮🇪🇬🇧

[@foxgirl1822]

Yep, a different flavour of the same drink. We like the same music/fashion/sports (obvs Irish have G.A.A but Brits have cricket and all that stuff) have same sense of humour. We just dont have all that uppercrust "stiff upper lip" Royal worshipping bullshit that the Brits have or the all powerful Norman-Anglo private school elite controlling everything. The British are great and have contributed so much good things to culture regrdless of their other issues. WE are hardly perfect ourselves with all that Catholic bullshit (which we have moved away from thankfully) and rampant racism.

[@rolandhawken6628]

What they seem to forget is they are talking about the history of Ireland in English ,like the Scots they forget with out the influence of England the lesser populated Ireland Scotland Wales would be totally insignificant . In the same way the invasion of England by the French in 1066 opened up the country ,

[@BrianBorumaMacCennetig367]

nonsense.

[@jackoshea7668]

@@BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 you would say that .

[@conorkelly947]

oh thank the masters for making us relevant. what an absolute count ​@@rolandhawken6628

[@BlackGriffin195]

Time to realise we have more in common and understand there is a far greater enemy at, and inside, our gates.

[@RoCK3rAD]

My ancestors were genocided by the British my Irish mother still to this won’t even visit a British petroleum gas station

[@IcarianX]

Oh stop with that racist, anti immigrant shite. You cannot compare the minor cultural changes due to immigration compared to the seismic changes due to English colonialism.

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@RoCK3rAD would you like a belly rub?

[@fyrdman2185]

@@RoCK3rAD Ah yet she will use the English language, settled in a country founded and built by the English and follow a culture originating from England.

[@nomore6939]

As an English man with Irish ancestors on both my parents sides, I have long been a proud plastic paddy. You have to admire the men of a country as small and poor as Ireland was to take on the might of the then British Empire. I don't know if any of my ancestors from Kildare and Roscommon fought against British rule but I hope they did.

[@DavidKenny-nm1qy]

Hiya davy can you do some deep diving into the history of propaganda that was used against the irish ?

[@davyholden]

This would be an excellent video. I surely will!

[@r_and_a]

​@@davyholden or *series* of videos 😉

[@paulmorrison-hs4lw]

The only thing wrong is using the Union flag with Henry VIII, as England and Scotland were separate empires back then and not joined by Crown and Parliament

[@EpicAelflaed]

Scotland never had an empire - however they did try with Panama but the Scots went bankrupt England had a powerful empire already by then - a huge benefit to the Scots when they wanted to join forces with the English

[@paulmorrison-hs4lw]

@89leemills Scotland did have a small empire it had Colonies in the North America and Robert the Bruce’s brother was also High King of Ireland Edward Bruce also the last High King of Ireland

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@paulmorrison-hs4lw Read up about the Scots trying to develop a navy that would match the English. They tried with Panama but it had them bankrupt. It was devastating for them. The Scot’s benefited from the English empire as it was powerful even then. After unification became the British empire. I’ve some Scottish ancestry so I’m not being biased

[@paulmorrison-hs4lw]

@89leemills I know this, I am taking a history degree and also Scottish descent only born in England because my dad was n the military with my mum being from Glasgow

[@jasonallen6081]

@@paulmorrison-hs4lw Yeah find out about Robert the Bruce being Norman and and William Wallace while you're at it . Not just Edward longshanks they were all Normans.

[@trismica]

Oright love fae Scotland

[@leveller4978]

Of course, the Norman invasion changed England’s demographic. As did the Viking invasion, the Anglo- Saxon invasion and the Roman invasion.

[@EpicAelflaed]

British mainland being England and Wales have been invaded many times by tribes. The Gaels from Ireland sailed into modern day Scotland as invaders. They eradicated the ‘Picts’ and their culture and then named themselves the Scots (the Romans called them sea raiders or scoti’s) Scotland was formed as a nation who were not indigenous to Britain. They then preach about how the Germanic tribes took their land. They were all tribes at the end of the day trying to take land that wasn’t theirs in the first place

[@Adaman368]

​​@89leemills Geography first. The only mainland in this part of the world is the continent of Europe History: as detailed previously Tribal groups from both islands variously invaded traded, raided and migrated between the two islands. Tribal groups from the island of Britain are noted for having attacked Ireland many times Of interest - the so called Scotti- was a term invented by the Romans, who along with the Picts (and Saxons separately) were raiding parts of Roman Britain. The roman sources are less than clear and the origins of those they referred to as "Scotti" are at best geographically ambiguous. What we do know is the scotti were in northern Britain living alongside the Picts even before that period. Even up to the ninth century - the Picts and scotti were fighting the Vikings when their respective groups came together under one King- Kenetth McAlpin after their respective kings were killed in viking attacks. Recent genetic research shows that the majority of people in Scotland have both Scotti and Pictish ancestry. Go figure The single biggest invasion of the island of Britain were the germanic tribes in the 5th and 6th centuries who overran large parts of the island of Britain. And no there is no comparison with tribal groups doing what tribal groups did - with the state orchrastrated invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing by the English and later British Crown for centuries right up to relatively recent times. Nor the fact that the British were one of the most beligerant countries in the world for most of the last 500 years - fighting war after war and invading and colonising a Quarter of the world in that period. Offering up ancient history as an sop to excuse any of that simply doesn't wash.

[@peterallison-ex4yy]

Brilliant and very concise history of Our Great country Davy but the struggle for Our total freedom is not yet complete and hopefully will be achieved in my children's lifetime bringing an end to Britain's terrible atrocities in our land. Go raibh maith agat .💚🇮🇪🍀✊

[@garyIrish7052]

I have just recently come across your videos, Davy, and had been very impressed UNTIL I heard your reference in this video to that god-awful term "British Isles" (@ 10:57). I have to say that I was gobsmacked that you should have used that term, which you must know is a hugely offensive term that is normally only used by Brits and West-Brits to describe the islands of Ireland and Britain.

[@PatrickVleugels-eu6ou]

Tiocfaidh ar la, Ireland belongs to the Irish.

[@EpicAelflaed]

Check what’s happening to your country with your new Irish. They will have a larger population than the Irish in Ireland. No longer Ireland for the Irish - look at England. That’s what’s coming to your towns and cities All inclusive, diversity and multiculturalism. They will call themselves Irish with no Irish connection whatsoever

[@Adaman368]

​@@EpicAelflaedConsidering what the brits did to this country previously that's a bit rich ..

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@Adaman368 considering what the Irish rebels did to our children then 😳 bombing our mainland killing and maiming innocent people and children eh? It’s nothing to do with me personally or you - it’s the government and their interests not ours. Having a go at decent English / British people who have done nothing at all to Irish people ‘is a bit rich’ coming from you

[@Adaman368]

@@EpicAelflaed Seriously? Not to down play all the victims of troubles, so you think paramilitaries groups from Northern Ireland (from both sides) who killed people in bombings etc (in both Ireland and Britain btw) is somehow unrelated to centuries of brutal invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing of Britain of its neighbours? I think you need to study some history before trying such a momentous lack of cognition again History is not "having a go" - it's actual recorded history that the English and later British Crown undertook the brutal state orchrastrated invasion and colonisation of Ireland right up relatively recent times. Deal with it.

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@Adaman368 I know what the British government did and I’m disgusted about it but it’s got nothing to do with me, you attack us and blame us when I’ve done nothing to Ireland or the Irish. Have a go at the government or something

[@markbeecroft-stretton3314]

Thank you for these videos, Davy, in helping make sense of a very complex situation and, more importantly, shining a light on an important part of history not taught in England. My hope is that, in time, we can be honest with ourselves in that which we perpetrated against our nearest neighbour over hundreds of years - then industrialised as a model for other lands in which we were an occupying force. In time, the narrative must change around the 1840's to 1860's - a time referred to, by some, as the Great Famine - by others (and more accurately) as The Great Hunger. The more precise description, if one considers the UN definition, is Genocide.

[@jrton1366]

Just to be clear, the great famine does not meet the definition of genocide at all. Not even close. There is no evidence, none, that the goal of the British government was the depopulation of Ireland or the extermination of the Irish. You cannot use the word genocide without that hard, non-circumstantial evidence of intent. Any other genocide in the world has that evidence of intent, from the H0l0caust to Yugoslavia.

[@johndoyle2397]

This is not the British Isles

[@Jim54_]

When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since

[@pixl3ros3]

go raibh maith agat as an obair iontach a dhéanann tú agus go dtógfaimid nóiméad ciúnais do na saolta ar fad a cailleadh ar an dá thaobh sa troid ar son Saorstát Éireann ba cheart a bheith ann fadó.

[@davyholden]

Go raibh míle maith agat!

[@byroneckhardt4131]

It goes back further to the Irish slave raids but you like talking about that bit .

[@Adaman368]

Well no it doesn't. Because tribal groups from the island of Britain were raiding Ireland for slaves from earliest history. The ancient Britons were so famous for their slave trading that it was noted by Strabo the Greek geographer in the first century at a time when slavery was endemic across the world. I just love the non sense that some brits come up with in an effort to try and justify centuries of brutal state orchrastrated invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing of their neighbours...

[@stefbaxter]

Excellent.

[@richardmccann8215]

Terrific work, slow the delivery down a bit though.

[@tiredman4540]

Fascinating video of a less talked about episode of history. I find it fun to imagine Henry II 's reaction when he heard that a descendent of William the Conqueror was building up a nice little kingdom in Ireland! 1066 and all that must have weighed heavily on his mind.

[@ndie8075]

as a german I very much connected with the english by our common Saxon ancestry......they are our cousins.....and I would say the present english are not responsible for that harm done to the irish.....but I also wish Ireland a united and free Country without british rule....💚.....

[@billbo2117]

Greetings German brother but Ireland has got its freedom in the 26 counties, the remaining 6 stand in defiance! NO SURRENDER 🇬🇧 God save the King

[@billlecky7964]

Do you mean your German King ?

[@billbo2117]

@@billlecky7964 maybe ,but still our king and Protestant!

[@Paul-eb4jp]

The worst thing the English and the Welsh have done recently was vote for Brexit albeit by a very narrow margin, before that we were all Europeans free to come and go across borders unhindered, our nation state was a personal thing.

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@billbo2117 it’s British that’s why - the plantation has nothing to do with modern English, Scottish people. There are Irish with British descent in NI and you want to tell them they’re not British? Go for it and good luck

[@kosmokritikos9299]

And so the Sassenach came pouring in by Hook or by Crooke.

[@ianmedford4855]

As opposed to now? Just sayin'

[@jasonshanahan1225]

Class work Davy, well produced. Who's the man speaking at 04:35? Interesting accent has a similar pitch to de Velera.

[@marks_sparks1]

Tom Barry, speaking at Kilmichael Ambush site

[@TheIrishKing.]

It's time we came together before our country's are lost to migrants 😢🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧

[@johnfisk811]

You mean like the Irish? About 1in 8 people in England have at least 1 Irish grandparent who would be 20th century immigrants. And welcome I may add.

[@TheIrishKing.]

@@johnfisk811 it's the same here we're all cousin's and we need to remember that

[@SamJonesMediaHUD]

Would have been nice to hear about modern day and the future friendly relations the 2 countries have

[@dennisdelia9524]

This is an awesome short history I found really educational and made me resent English arrogance and bigotry!!!!

[@ProfileP246]

It’s all Britain together we are the British islands 🇬🇧👍

[@njbrx]

I don't think most people in Ireland would agree with you

[@ProfileP246]

@@njbrx It’s not up for debate it’s been geographical fact for over 4000 years now.

[@Adaman368]

​​@@ProfileP246Nope. The by then archaic "geographical" term was dug up from some dodgy ancient sources by one John Dee - an advisor to Queen Elizabeth I. The same John Dee who advocated for the colonisation of Ireland and the Americas and who first coined the term tge "British Empire funnily enough. Today it has no official standing and has no more relevance as a "colonial era "geographical term to Ireland than the term British East Africa has to modern day Kenya. Neither the British or Irish governments use the term in relation to the two islands in any official communications. The UN ditto. Unfortunately (some) britnatts don't seem to have got that memo

[@tariqahmed2214]

The only thing i remember is Britain staverd Ireland that what i read in histroy

[@EpicAelflaed]

With your name what do you care? You are the worst

[@Adaman368]

​@@EpicAelflaedoh look our resident person from Britain 😅

[@EpicAelflaed]

Tariq concentrate on your own culture as that’s f***ed as we have learned 👍

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@Adaman368 hello Adam, Tariq is a little misguided and lost - we will send him a boat 😝

[@Adaman368]

@89leemills Nad he seems on the ball. Funny thing about brits they don't like being reminded about history ...

[@mjc8281]

I don't think its fair to say its an 800 year struggle, hell it dates back before England and Scotland even existed with each side raiding and settling the other... It's not without irony that St Patrick was a Roman-Briton likely from what would now be classed as the English-Scottish borderlands. The Scots themselves started in Ireland and that's before we even talk about the various Viking groups that happily raided and settled up and down both coastlines.

[@EpicAelflaed]

Yes Saint Patrick wasn’t Irish 👍

[@adam_p99]

St Patrick was considered Welsh, because he was from Cornwall, which at the time was part of wales

[@mjc8281]

​@@adam_p99 mmmmmm St Patrick's location of birth is somewhat of a mystery although its unlikely to have been Cornish... As Christianity wasn't fully established there until a little later. As for Cornwall being part of Wales it never was.... What you might be thinking of is the Anglo-Saxons referred to it as West Wales there was also a North Wales which is what we now think of as simply "Wales" the reason for this naming is in Saxon the word foreigner was... Wealas. So I guess from a Saxon perspective, if he was indeed from Cornwall he would have been considered a Wealas.... but not because Cornwall was part of Wales. The history of the British Isles (and that's not trying to claim ownership over any of it by any group)is extraordinarily complex.

[@adam_p99]

@@mjc8281 oh ok. Thanks for the education. Good stuff 👍👍

[@johnfisk811]

Christianity was established in Britain during Roman times and never went away. There is evidence of Christian worship all through the early Middle Age (once k own as the dark age). Indeed St. Martins church in Canterbury may have been in use continuously from Roman times onwards. If you visit Canterbury ensure you visit St. Martins church as well as the more recent cathedral.@@mjc8281

[@HenryRaeburn367]

They were not neighbours they were thieves who entered your house, ate your food, restricted you to one small room in your home, brutalised you if you complained that your small room in your home, oppressed your idea's your will your existence ,no they were not neighbours

[@Adaman368]

Yeah the British did that all over the world...

[@asnowman8094]

1500's would seem to be picking a period of time that creates it's own narrative. What if I were to say 'Ulster' became part of Scotland at the formation of Scotland 600 years before that and that for hundreds of years before then the Irish had been invading and carving out a kingdom on the west coast of Scotland. Ireland and sometimes Scotland were fronts on a religious proxy war. Maybe if we'd held to the old druidic ways things would've panned out entirely differently. (likely the rest of Europe would've invaded all of us)

[@christinedomeney1]

I live in ferns

[@simonb1996]

"As Eirlund fights for it's freedom" lol the Irish tried to invade first. Even with help from the Vikings.

[@Adaman368]

Oh ffsss no they didn't. More bsss brit fairy tales. Best go study history

[@simonb1996]

@@Adaman368 This is documented in history. Just much further back than where this videos started 😂

[@Adaman368]

@@simonb1996 Simon I know the brits don't teach history or much less that there are documted sources for britnat fairy tales about the nasty Vikings and Irish who picked on poor wee Britain awwwww. The poor wee things.

[@simonb1996]

@@Adaman368 Ignore history then and just cherry pick the parts that you like 😂

[@Adaman368]

​​​​​@@simonb1996Or in this case brits just making up bs to try and justify centuries of brutal state orchrastrated invasion and colonisation Facts are there was endemic raiding by various tribal groups on both the islands of Ireland and Britain long before any raids by Scandinavin vikings. And btw the Vikings who raided Ireland came mainly from what is present day Norway. The Vikings who raided and overran large parts of Britain were of Danish origin and would go onto to create the system of Danelaw, with Danish King's ruling England up to just before the Normans show up I just love the excuses some brits offer up for centuries of state orchrastrated invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing of their neighbours right up to relatively recent times. At least the Germans acknowledge what they did to their neighbours, not so much the brits... And no the "Irish" did not invade Britain "first". You can put that fairy tale back in the kids fiction section where it's normally kept... Tell me what excuses do the brits offer for invading and colonising all those other countries - did they all invade poor wee britain as well?

[@internetual7350]

Físeán deas Davy! Tá ceist agam duit, an labhraíonn tú aon Gaeilann?

[@davyholden]

Tá cúpla focail agam. Táim ag foghlaim anois. To be honest, I made such a massive mistake after school. Gaeilge was my best subject all the way through school, but when I finished, I completely dropped it. Lost all my vocab. So annoying. But, I’m getting back to it now.

[@internetual7350]

@@davyholden An-dheas ar fad! Go raibh míle maith agat don freagra! Is foghlaimeoir mé leis mar táim chomh bródúil don mo náisiúin agus níl aon thuiscint fíor na stair Éireannacha gan Gaeilann! Go n-éirí an mbóthar leat ar do turas a chara!

[@davyholden]

@@internetual7350an mhaith ar fad. Huge respect. I need to up my game and speak as Gaeilge more often!

[@OscarOSullivan]

I have taken a break from a year

[@internetual7350]

@@OscarOSullivan How come? Believe me pal, your Irish is going to take a hit if you don't practice it in that stretch of time.

[@ConradAinger]

It did not begin in the 12th century, more like the 6th, when the Irish first raided then settled in parts of Western Britain. The Scots (Scotti) were, for instance, originally a tribe from what is now Ulster.

[@DonBean-ej4ou]

And took Patrick as a slave during one of their many raids. Shhh! you're spoiling the narrative.

[@EpicAelflaed]

The Irish are a little hypocritical when you look further back in history. The Irish did the exact same thing as the other tribes - trying to take land, vape and pillage

[@Adaman368]

@ConrDAinger. @DonBean-ej4ou ​@89leemills Except that's bullscheite. And no it doesn't. Because tribal groups from the island of Britain were raiding Ireland for slaves from earliest history. The ancient Britons were so famous for their slave trading that it was noted by Strabo the Greek geographer in the first century at a time when slavery was endemic across the world. Various tribal groups also migrated between the two islands in ancient times with tribal groups from the island of Britain also ending up in Ireland I just love the non sense that some brits come up with in an effort to try and justify centuries of brutal state orchrastrated invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing of their neighbours right up to relatively recent times. At least the Germans apologised to their neighbours- nonsuch luck with the beligerant bunch of cnutts next door obviously

[@ConradAinger]

@Adaman368 Uh... I am Anglo-German. I don't think Strabo differentiated between the British and the Irish. To see them as being distinct in that era is an anachronism. I well realise that historically the Irish have been badly treated. On the other hand I don't see history in terms of Baddies and Goodies. The Anglo-Norman kings who initiated the conquest of Ireland were very ready to treat their English subjects badly too. And where do the Vikings of Dublin come into your picture?

[@Adaman368]

@@ConradAinger So let's see you call out the "Irish" for taking slaves from Britain , but when the stakes are turned - apparently there's no difference between the two countries lol Yes Strabo did indeed call out the Britons for their trade in slaves amongst other things. Look it up. Not only are they two completely seperate islands - they have very different histories - even in ancient times.

[@thepiratepenguin4465]

1:12 & South Africa.

[@bampitony6108]

Never mind the conflict with the UK..Your now in the battle of Irelands history with Afghanistan.. Pakistan.. Albania..Syria..Iran.. Romania... Kurdistan..ect....If you don't win this battle Ireland will be lost...😎

[@amandadiamond7147]

I figure its hard to claim you have the greatest civilization ever when your neighbors are way cooler.

[@Adaman368]

Ya mean the biggest bunch of beligerent cnutts in Western Europe who brutally invaded/colonised a quarter of the world. In the same way the Germans with their policy of Lebensraum were "cool" yeah?

[@ianneill1400]

At least there is a silver lining for us descendants who were lucky enough to end up in beautiful Australia!!!

[@DonBean-ej4ou]

Do the Irish follow tge English everywhere?

[@martybourke2428]

​@@DonBean-ej4ounot onto church

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@DonBean-ej4ou they sure like to complain though - 800 years ago of colonialism and it’s mine and your fault apparently 😂

[@Adaman368]

​@@EpicAelflaedffs do we really need to listen the same whingeing in every comment. Go play some cricket or something

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@Adaman368 it’s you Irish that are crying all the time, the Irish over here don’t mention it but you’re the ‘typical’ Irish Moaning all the time about things nothing to do with us. Then you have a go and blame. Why don’t you go and protest about your ‘new plantations’ that’s happening in your country if you’re that bothered about ‘preserving your irishness’ You won’t have any Irish culture to complain about when your new Irish take over. Your country is going like ours - mass immigration and loss of your identity and your rights

[@rayman17578]

My ancestors were Ulster Scots but they came from the Scottish Highlands not the Lowlands

[@OscarOSullivan]

A number of Presbyterians in Ireland would have spoken spoken Irish Gaelic

[@rayman17578]

@@OscarOSullivan I didn't know that

[@EpicAelflaed]

The Irish blaming the English for Northern Ireland being British but choose to leave out mentioning the Scottish plantations 🤔

[@Adaman368]

​​@@EpicAelflaedExcept yamuppet they weren't "scottish plantations". It was state orchrastrated invasion and colonisation by the English and later British Crown. The same which moved large numbers of English Welsh and yes even Scottish into Ireland in a series of plantations starting in the 1500s of which the plantation of Ulster was just one. And that plantation involved the distribution of land stolen from the native Irish and handed over to wealthy land owners from northern England, lowland Scotland and even Wales who in turn were instrumental in bringing over loyal British English speaking protestant colonists.

[@Ellanvannin03]

@@Adaman368it was literally a Scottish royal family

[@nigelhamilton815]

Just a comment, the Norman kings were not English kings they were French. England was also a conquered territory. Enjoyed your work.

[@Policestate41]

Didnt start with henry the second started with strongbow who was invited over as a mercenary ,

[@PH-hk8mb]

❤🇮🇪

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

04:37 -- still waiting for the order to stop. 🇮🇪☘️

[@EpicAelflaed]

I think you should concentrate on your new comers into your country - that’s your biggest threat to your culture

[@maxfieldstanton4541]

@@EpicAelflaed American Corporate Capitalism is a "threat to my culture."

[@FreakShop]

Starved by the British.

[@ronwilson9815]

Actually it began much earlier after the Romans left Britain and the Irish started raiding England and Wales and taking slaves, you know like that St Patrick fellow!

[@EpicAelflaed]

The ☘️ choose to ignore that part of history. It’s so they can complain and talk riddles about saints and leprechauns It’s always the victim mindset and the English are to blame for everything

[@Adaman368]

​​​​@@EpicAelflaedNot at all. Tribal groups from the island of Britain had been raiding Ireland for slaves long before the Romano-Briton Patrick from a slave owning family himself, shows up in Ireland. Strabo the Greek geographer recorded that the Britons were famous for their slave trading long before the Romans even arrived in Britain It remains Ireland was brutally invaded and colonised by theEnglish and later British Crown right up to relatively modern times. So excuse us if history does indeed show that the "English" were indeed responsible for most of that - but now bizarrely place themselves as "victims" rflol

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@Adaman368 the Irish did raid the Britons and wales was attacked many times by the Irish. The Irish raiders, the Scoti’s invaded the north of Britain and fought with the Picts and the Britons. They also battled with the romans, so much so they built Hadrian’s wall to keep the barbarjc Irish out. It just so happens that tribes, later ‘the English’ were the most fearsome overall and made sure the Scoti’s were kept in Scotland. Yes the English did some terrible things like the Irish. It’s just that the English were the dominant tribes and therefore ruled for some time. They were just better at invading and taking over lands. It was the sign of the times 👍

[@Adaman368]

@@EpicAelflaed no the "Irish" didn't. Their being no nation states at that time. Tribal groups from both islands variously invaded traded, raided and migrated between the two islands. Tribal groups from the island of Britain are noted for having attacked Ireland many times Of interest - the so called Scotti- was a term invented by the Romans, who along with the Picts (and Saxons separately) were raiding parts of Roman Britain. The roman sources are less than clear and the origins of those they referred to as "Scotti" are at best geographically ambiguous. What we do know is the scotti were in northern Britain living alongside the Picts even before that period. Even up to the ninth century - the Picts and scotti were fighting the Vikings when their respective groups came together under one King- Kenetth McAlpin after their respective kings were killed in viking attacks. Wales had many connections with Ireland, not only with two-way movements of people but also trade and commerce from earliest times. The single biggest invasion of the island of Britain were the germanic tribes in the 5th and 6th centuries who overran large parts of the island of Britain and whose barbaric descendants have been trying to wipe out the indigenous peoples of both Ireland and Britain ever since. And no there is no comparison with tribal groups doing what tribal groups did - with the state orchrastrated invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing by the English and later British Crown for centuries right up to relatively recent times. Nor the fact that the British were one of the most beligerant countries in the world for most of the last 500 years - fighting war after war and invading and colonising a Quarter of the world in that period. Offering up ancient history as an sop to excuse any of that simply doesn't wash.

[@fergalbannon4614]

Great video as always David. Well done. But I don't really buy into the tagline. We have very very many reasons to be "irked" with our neighbours. You're going through relationships between islands, not nations. I could talk for hours why I have a skeptical appraisal of the Sasnach. But I only somewhat dislike the crown and the UK government in and around Brexit. There should be no more anger . And doesn't the make us better?

[@davyholden]

I'm not saying there is anger between us. It's a history video, so it's based in the past. And there certainly was an anger in the past, hence the title. Thanks so much for watching bud! 😊

[@OscarOSullivan]

@@davyholdenIs it a possibility that where Yola used to be spoken in Wexford is where the Normans landed first.

[@stevethomas5849]

We're just a family at odds with each other, that happens to be in the best part of the world, green patchwork fields , coastal beauty and the fauna ain't dangerous just the inhabitants.

[@googleuser6440]

Familys don't torcher,rape and murder thousands of people, they invaded us and stole our land

[@EpicAelflaed]

All of em done some good and some bad .. they just want to blame the dominant player 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance]

Once again Ireland’s history revision raises its head. In answer to the question. The four Kingdoms of Ireland became provinces of London or Great Britain after the invasion, not Ireland, as each of the Kingdoms had their own a government, the very definition of a province. Ulster has never in its history been a province of either Dublin or any Southern Irish territory, only of London and Great Britain. Prior to the invasion of the British, Ulster was a self-governing territory and identified itself as a Kingdom, with no one to answer to, or overlords, in either Ireland or Great Britain, so was a country in its own right. The island of Ireland in its entirety was also a province once, but the Southern counties claimed their independence, just as Ulster or Northern Ireland has an every right to do in the future, if and when it ever decides to go out on its own. It also has the option of joining the Republic of Ireland, but at the minute there is not a single benifit to any citizen of Ulster to go in that direction. Dublin or the Republic of Ireland has no historical territorial claim to sovereignty over Northern Ireland or Ulster, only wishful thinking.

[@emcc8598]

Khrist on a bike lol. Best go learn some real history lol. The whole of Ireland was invaded and colonised by the English and later British Crown. There were no "four Kingdoms" yamuppet. The region known as Northern Ireland made up of just 6 of 9 countries of the ancient Irish PROVINCE of Ulster. With NI only created in 1922 and then without plebiscite or democratic process by the British government in a cynical move to carve Ireland into two. The only difference with the rest of Ireland was that parts of Ulster had been ethnically cleansed and populated by a quarter of a million Lowland Scots and northern English "loyal" English speaking protestant British "subjects in a brutal effort to wipe out gaelic chieftains, culture and language from the province Histoirically the ancient provinces of Ireland did not have "government" either btw, nor were they appropriated to London or Britain following invasion and colonisation but rather the country was held as a personal fiefdom of the English and later British monarchy right up to 1801 when Ireland was shanghai’d into a union which had nothing to do with them Seriously go read a history book and not what ye hear down the kneebreakers after fifteen pints of cheap larger on a Saturday night

[@Scuttlerofwhimsey]

Ulster consists of 9 counties, 3 of which are part of the Republic. Conflating Ulster and the North as if they were the same place invalidates anything else you have to say

[@fishyq5077]

“British Isles” - I think you mean Britain and Ireland.

[@davyholden]

Nope, I meant what I said 😊why do you say that? I’m speaking geographically.

[@fishyq5077]

@@davyholden The term is used by some to imply that Irish people are British. It is becoming less common. This is from the Wikipedia page. Today, this name is seen by some as carrying imperialist overtones although it is still commonly used.[22] Other names used to describe the islands include the Anglo-Celtic Isles, Atlantic archipelago (a term coined by the historian J. G. A. Pocock in 1975[47][48][49]), British-Irish Isles,[50]Britain and Ireland, UK and Ireland, and British Isles and Ireland.[51] Owing to political and national associations with the word British, the Government of Ireland does not use the term British Isles[20] and in documents drawn up jointly between the British and Irish governments, the archipelago is referred to simply as "these islands".[28] British Isles is still the most widely accepted term for the archipelago.[28]

[@OscarOSullivan]

Islands of Britain and Ireland works well

[@Paul-eb4jp]

@@davyholden You are indeed correct Davey, they are the British Isles which include places such as the Isle of man, the channel islands and the Scottish Islands, it doesn't mean anything when it comes to nationality it's a geographical status.

[@Adaman368]

​​@@Paul-eb4jpNo you are incorrect. The term is an archaic piece of "geographical" terminology which has no official standing and is no longer used by either the British or Irish governments in any official communications or documentation when referring to the two islands..the UN ditto. That some think that the term has any validity is neither here nor there

[@Gofar1898]

You didn't mention the Genocide of the famine...a huge factor

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Why does the thumbnail show the RoI as having Northern Ireland? It would be like having a thumbnail showing the UK having Southern Ireland?

[@Adaman368]

What would you know 😅

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@Adaman368 What would I know about what? Is this your answer to my question?

[@Adaman368]

​@@noodlyappendage6729yeah the question is clearly clueless

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@Adaman368 you don’t have much to contribute do you, apart from nonsense.

[@Adaman368]

@noodlyappendage6729 100% than the first comment for sure lol

[@roberw1912]

Don't forget Scotland is named after an Irish group that conquered the area. The English expanded beyond the Pale in the 16th century is haste because England was scared other countries would use Ireland has a staging post for invasion. Ireland was made part of the UK in 1801 thanks to Wolf Tone doing just that. Understand this and you understand why the British were keen to expand into a land with no natural resources and costs more money than they were getting in.

[@roberw1912]

I should point out the 16th century was the reformation, and the pope put out the Papal equivalent of a hit on the English royal family.

[@Adaman368]

​@robertparker6298 The reformation in England began because Henry VIII King of England wanted to get his leg over a woman who wasn't his wife. Henry had been a favourite of the Pope and had even been given the title "Defender of the Faith" by the Pope. A title he never dropped interestingly enough. The church in England later became Protestant mainly for strategic reasons aligning itself with the Netherlands and later the Austian Hungarian Empire. The English used religion as a badge of identity and instigated one of the world's first state orchrastrated systems of apartheid on the Irish people as a means of ethnic cleansing.

[@EpicAelflaed]

I don’t think the English were scared of anyone seeing as they conquered most of the world 👍

[@roberw1912]

@@EpicAelflaed in 1588 the Spanish launched the Amanda to conquer England. Thankfully the weather got in the war, alongside fire ships and English tactics. The British became a superpower after the 7 years war in 1763 when it soundly defeated the French all over the World. The start of the 1700s with the wars of The Spanish Succession the British were becoming a power, but even in the 1660s the Dutch routed the English.

[@Adaman368]

@89leemills What you're saying is that they were one of the biggest showers of belligerent cnutts the world has seen in modern times? Fair enough 👍

[@pygmy.]

Conveniently skipped the Irish colonisation of the Highlands

[@davyholden]

That is a completely different era than this video is based in 😄

[@barryb90]

What has Gaels from Ireland populating the highlands a millennium before got to do with Lowland Scots of Northumbrian Saxon origin being planted into Ulster?

[@pygmy.]

@@barryb90 Your wording is horrible. Gaels did not “populate” the Highlands, they were already populated. If I used the same word to describe the plantations you would be furious. My point is that there is no such thing as a victim in the hundreds of years the Irish and British have been in conflict, we’ve done everything to each other. It is not one sided. Anglophobes and the like do not want peace.

[@EpicAelflaed]

@@barryb90 the Gaels were brutal like the Anglos. The Scots and Irish have forgotten that part though 😉

[@Adaman368]

​​@@pygmy.Except bullshit. Recent genetic and archaeological research shows no mass movement of people from Ireland into Northern Britain in ancient times. Its just bsss whataboutery used by some brits in an effort to try and justify or excuse centuries of brutal invasion colonisation and ethnic cleansing of their neighbours right up to relatively recent times. Tell me what excuse do the brits offer for invading and colonising a quarter of the world? Did all those also "colonise" parts of Britain?

[@xtramail4909]

This ancient conflict started with Anglo-Normans or Anglo-Irish and native Irish, not Ireland vs. Britain. There was movement back and forth for thousands of years between the Celtic nations. Presenting the Ireland England battle as Ireland vs Britain to an audience trying to learn about a complex history is not fair. People less knowledgeable on this history will think the 800 years of colonization was by the entire island of Great Britain when it was in fact not! Talk about history with all its complexities, it started off as Anglo-Irish or Anglo-Celtic issue in the islands of Britain and Ireland. It wasn’t just the Celtic nation of Ireland that was struggling with the Anglo-Norman invasions! Of course during the height of the British empire the Celtic nations apart of the island of Great Britain were swallowed, assimilated, reformed like play dough, being spoon fed propaganda and even then some “British” still fought back against the empire and would have never wanted Irish domination. Even the plantations, it was Britain who was involved but it was royals of England whose scheme it was to dominate the Gaelic culture, it was economic opportunity for the lowland Scots who had been nearly entirely assimilated after being (less violently) cleared from their ancestral land. Nearly all the place names and last names of people in lowland have been anglicized, and this is anglicized from Gaelic language which wasn’t even the Celtic language of the lowland Scots, they spoke Cumbric in the South which was wiped clean by the Gael-Pictish unifications in attempt to drive out the Anglos from Scotland. The Scotti came from Ireland, the tribe that Scotland is literally named after “Scotti land” it wasn’t Scotti land though it was other Celtic tribes. the Irish tribe from Northern Ireland wiped clean the ancient culture and languages of Scotland before Scots language took over, which was easier to do since their native language aka generational memory (as it was oral tradition) was already lost by that point. You see the history of the Celtic nations is extremely complex and the story has ALWAYS been dominated by the England-Irish battles. Scotland is the nation that had their native Celtic culture entirely wiped out by other Celtic groups and Germanic groups, now everyone says Ireland is the only true Celtic nation left.

[@PaulMuzik]

So us up North have always been rebels ...... Ireland 32 baby

[@georgeriddell9356]

Britain is only 320 years old everything about this is wrong

[@thomasmcglade907]

Yes but England is older

[@jayturner3397]

Ahh Normans..viking ancestors..didn't speak our language for some 300 years, look to many so called 'Elites ' names in Britain today..see where the originate..Norman French what they spoke & speak..not Anglo-Saxon English 😮

[@urseliusurgel4365]

There is a particular irony in Henry II being given a political free hand in Ireland by the Pope, in the papal bull, 'Laudabiliter'. That the Pope in question, Adrian IV, was the only English Pope ever (there has never been an Irish Pope), is fairly unimportant. The fact is, at the time, the Anglo-Normans were 'better Catholics' than the Irish. The English paid a special tax 'Peter's Pence' directly to the Vatican, and they followed all the recent papal reforms. The Irish church, in contrast, was in a sad state, with the marriage of clergy, over indulgence in divorce, marriage within prohibited degrees of kinship, irregular consecrations of bishops and simony all being problems. The papacy considered that the political overlordship of Ireland of Henry II would help to bring the Irish church into correct observance and obedience.