The British Answer to Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys? [Mini-documentary]

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Yesterday's Papers

Yesterday's Papers

Жыл бұрын

When "Pet Sounds" was released in May 1966, the album was a critical and commercial failure in the States. In the UK, however, the album got excellent reviews and it reached number 2 on the albums charts, remaining on the Top 10 for six months. Rolling Stones' manager was deeply impressed by the record and he was determined to release the British answer to Pet Sounds. This is the story of how Andrew Oldham teamed up with Del Shannon to record the "British Answer to Pet Sounds".

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@neilfriedman
@neilfriedman Жыл бұрын
The Beach Boys, the group that gave my life an identity and meaning. The most influential group in my life. Still listen and still amazed. Thank you Beach Boys
@markjulianoriginalhooli2217
@markjulianoriginalhooli2217 Жыл бұрын
Agreed👍
@petestaint8312
@petestaint8312 Жыл бұрын
Same! Carl Wilson inspired me to take up the guitar. 😎
@BazookaToe
@BazookaToe Жыл бұрын
Being born in Southern California they were in my dna. Being born when Pet Sounds was released was my first milestone. 😁
@MrMusicbyMartin
@MrMusicbyMartin Жыл бұрын
You just wasn’t made for these times . . . .
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 Жыл бұрын
Good grief. Your music journalism is making quantum leap every month or so. This is your best film yet by a long way. The writing, the editing, the analysis, even the style parody bumpers are just so together.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Rich! Appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers!
@janewhite4486
@janewhite4486 Жыл бұрын
Yes, an excellent video ! Thanks for posting.
@marrrtin
@marrrtin Жыл бұрын
YP has the fabbest, grooviest time machine.
@mackb909
@mackb909 Жыл бұрын
This vid is beautiful and heartbreaking. Del Shannon was so brilliant and so tortured (he ironically committed suicide while being treated with Prozac, one of the early people suffering chronic depression to be treated with the drug; his widow later sued the pharmaceutical company); "Home and Away" is a lost classic. The vid also reminds me about the talented Billy Nicholls (of "London Social Degree" fame, a not-so-subtle song meant to be remembered for its acronym) who is all too little known here in the States. I'm grateful for these vids. It can be sad to remember a time so full of hope and optimism with all the cynicism and lies characterizing the current time, but I hope that those in Gen Z and beyond can build a new era of hope- and love- and these vids can certainly contribute to that.
@EdwinJack64
@EdwinJack64 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@pencilpauli9442
@pencilpauli9442 Жыл бұрын
Man, gotta feel bad for Del Shannon. Thanks for the mini doc. Casts a light into an unknown corner of the 60s recording industry (at least for me(
@prafter7
@prafter7 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you on this one. Del was a friend of Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne, this no doubt adds to the rumour that Del was put forward as the replacement of the great Roy Orbison in the Travelling Wilburys. Jeff Lynne and E L O covered Runaway as homage to Del after his sad death. Take care and thanks.
@petercena9497
@petercena9497 Жыл бұрын
The Zombies "Odessey and Oracle" was the British answer to Pet Sounds, and one of the greatest albums of all time.
@philipmartin5757
@philipmartin5757 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love Pet Sounds but if people were being honest, they would admit it is very uneven. It works as a suite of songs but the very best songs are miles ahead of the others. Wouldn't It Be Nice, Don't Stop, Let's Go Away for a While, God Only Knows, Caroline No and maybe I Just Wasn't Made For These Times. Here Today is not a good song. I find it very dirgy compared to the lightness and elegance of God Only Knows and Wouldn't It Be Nice. All of Odessey and Oracle stands up as a batch of original songs. I've played Care of Cell 44 to quite a few people and they are hooked immediately. Paul Weller's favourite LP as well.
@petercena9497
@petercena9497 Жыл бұрын
@@philipmartin5757 Not to mention the Zombies played all their instruments on Odessey, where as the Wrecking Crew did most of Pet Sounds.
@mvancha
@mvancha Жыл бұрын
@@philipmartin5757 Exactly and The Zombies have great singing and playing by their members as well.
@Seantendo
@Seantendo Жыл бұрын
Never thought of that, but it immediately made sense.
@jonasskjtt5542
@jonasskjtt5542 Жыл бұрын
@@philipmartin5757 I like both, but I have to disagree.
@1TakoyakiStore
@1TakoyakiStore Жыл бұрын
The friendly competition between bands during the 1960's along with breakthroughs in music technology around the same time is what made popular music evolve at hyper speed over a mere 5-10 years. I'm convinced that it was 300 years worth of music evolution in that small amount of time.
@dan6m
@dan6m Жыл бұрын
9:30 Wow! Saying this suggests that it inspired "Gently Weeps" is very diplomatic. George obviously lifted the chord sequence and rhythm directly from Shannon. Even the bass line is so similar, it makes me wonder if McCartney had heard the demo as well. I never would have been aware of this if it weren't for your channel. Thanks, and keep digging!
@Bizinxis.
@Bizinxis. Жыл бұрын
Classic George
@alihart
@alihart Жыл бұрын
" I never would have been aware of this if it weren't for your channel" - In my view this is the best thing about the channel. The material itself is usually top class but it's the wee nuggets that appear that tend to stay with me. Great point
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Жыл бұрын
He's So Fine, isn't he?
@justmadeit2
@justmadeit2 Жыл бұрын
I’ve not heard that clip before but while my guitar does sound like that bit of the song
@jaypostsvideos4011
@jaypostsvideos4011 Жыл бұрын
@@Bizinxis. It's sounds barely alike to be fair
@SmartCookie2022
@SmartCookie2022 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I must admit, I didn't know about this unreleased Del Shannon album until now. I'm now going to track it down thanks to this marvelous channel. Thanks, Yesterday's Papers.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Smart Cookie. Hope you enjoy the album.
@waukivorycopse2402
@waukivorycopse2402 Жыл бұрын
You won't be disappointed, it's a cracker of an album. Music as a powerful force.
@Fuzzbrain61
@Fuzzbrain61 Жыл бұрын
Love the way you mix the archive, voice over and music. This is a fascinating story.
@Flibbybibby
@Flibbybibby Жыл бұрын
This masterpiece should’ve been released when it was recorded. I’ve enjoyed it for years and years now, and always thought it was a missed opportunity.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a pity that it wasn't released in 1967.
@collisw8302
@collisw8302 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this channel blowing up, I've proudly been here since 2k! Hadn't heard of this Shannon record but am definitely going to give it a spin.
@daveyvane9431
@daveyvane9431 Жыл бұрын
The depth of Dels music catalog is amazing. Full albums of Hank Williams, of pop covers, of originals,etc Great singer, guitarist,songwriter.
@kurtyboyy
@kurtyboyy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid! It's a shame that it's so overlooked!
@MarioBeatle120
@MarioBeatle120 Жыл бұрын
I KNEW IT WAS HOME & AWAY!!! This album is so magical & I just found it on a whim on Spotify & it's a shame Del Shannon didn't gain a second wave of fame because of this album cause the songs are so good. It's a shame the album didn't come out back then, but it's great we have it now.
@louisb5563
@louisb5563 Жыл бұрын
Man...this is undoubtedly in my Top 5 favorite music history channels! Well done, once again!👍
@ThisBirdHasFlown
@ThisBirdHasFlown Жыл бұрын
Pet Sounds and Forever Changes were both classics that failed in the US but were embraced in the UK.
@witchland
@witchland Жыл бұрын
I had never explored Del Shannon beyond "Runaway" and "Hats Off To Larry". I will definitely have to check this one out. Thanks so much for putting this together!
@NewFalconerRecords
@NewFalconerRecords Жыл бұрын
Wow! That 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps' comparison with the Billy Nichols song is stunning.
@martinsplichal1581
@martinsplichal1581 Жыл бұрын
I've been a big fan of Del Shannon for years. Thanks for highlighting this part of his career in a very entertaining presentation. Cheers,
@kevinbill9574
@kevinbill9574 Жыл бұрын
Cut & Come Again is an absolutely stunning song. Just a gorgeous melody and arrangement. I first heard it on Radio2 while driving along on autopilot many moons ago.. it was one of those 'wow!' moments. I didn't actually catch the artist or song title so I looked up the playlist online later. I couldn't believe it was Del Shannon singing such sublime and esoteric pop... I had absolutely no idea he'd changed his style so dramatically. Anyway, I ordered the album and have played it to death. Absolutely beautiful slice of 60s pop
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
"Cut and Come Again" is also one of my favourites from the album, great song.
@symbiosisai
@symbiosisai Жыл бұрын
Del Shannon's Runaway always reminds me of the movie American Graffiti
@christinecollins6648
@christinecollins6648 Жыл бұрын
The original was great, the rework may have been good for an up and comer, but naturally for him would sound stale.
@chrisbacos
@chrisbacos Жыл бұрын
Years ago I told my mum & sis (you've got me speaking British English) that the reason (IMHO) Pet Sounds and the 1967 LP Wild Honey charted so well in the UK was because the British recognize a true artist in Brian Wilson. Brian Wilson laid the groundwork for 70s soft rock, baroque rock, and progressive rock. Pet Sounds is one LP every rock connoisseur must have in his or her collection. What happened to Del Shannon was tragic. In the 80s Tom Petty helped him get his career and life back on track. Prozac exacerbated Shannon's depression and took his own life when he was becoming popular again. One final lighter note here in the States there is a statement on social me and in pop culture that 1966 is the year everything changed.
@stevejames2896
@stevejames2896 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant documentary as we've come to expect from this channel. Really well researched and produced- and a great eye (and ear) opener! Thank you for shining a spotlight on 'Home and Away'. 'Cut and come again' is just glorious. Well worth checking out the Billy Nicholls LP and the singles and LPs by Twice As Much, which also have that wonderful and distinctive Immediate UK baroque pop sound.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
The Billy Nicholls record is a masterpiece. Brilliant album. I love that UK baroque pop sound as well.
@ovelonse
@ovelonse Жыл бұрын
MARVELOUS FANTASTIC as always!!!
@officialpaulsinwill
@officialpaulsinwill Жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated. Never stop making videos!
@hudahekizzy8402
@hudahekizzy8402 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for this enlightenment. Plenty of new interesting songs and sounds to explore
@romelovesdan
@romelovesdan Жыл бұрын
At first glance, I thought this was going to be about the Billy Nichols album "Would You Believe"......I never knew the pre-history....We are always learning new stories and hearing new sounds to explore. Thank you!
@SophieLovesSunsets
@SophieLovesSunsets Жыл бұрын
What a backing band though, YP. John Paul Jones, Nicky Hopkins ... magic times. Your intro music is a beauty. Fantastic work on this mini-documentary. Much appreciated. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on music. Very intelligent and astute 🎸💖❤
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Sophie! Glad you enjoyed the video.
@SophieLovesSunsets
@SophieLovesSunsets Жыл бұрын
@@YesterdaysPapers 😘💖
@barrymurphy1337
@barrymurphy1337 Жыл бұрын
Another quality production yp, thank you. I thought you were refering to the Billy Nichols album at first, and then you did refer to it and now you might make another video about it! Happy days 😁
@timflatus
@timflatus Жыл бұрын
With hindsight we see that Pet Sounds was unrepeatable - even by the Beach Boys, ironically Smiley Smile suffered a similar fate. However it broke the mould and started an evolutionary race which has resulted in a plethora fine psychedelic and baroque pop albums. It's great we can finally get to hear these masterpieces, but it's a shame some people never got to reap the fruits of their labours
@ColtraneTaylor
@ColtraneTaylor Жыл бұрын
Smiley Smile over Pet Sounds any day. I don't care for Pet Sounds.
@timflatus
@timflatus Жыл бұрын
@@ColtraneTaylor I don't care for most of the Rolling Stones output, but you can't deny their importance in the history and development of rock and pop. What is of interest is all the albums like this one (and Odessey and Oracle etc.) that kind of fell under the radar due to the short-sighted business practices of the pop industry.
@honved1
@honved1 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, it was so sad what happened to Del. Billy Nicholls is a great talent, he sang backing vocals for the Who during their 1989 tour. His son is a great bass guitarist, he also played for the Who in their Olympic closing ceremony performance. He’s also been the keyboard player for the band Muse up until last year.
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Жыл бұрын
Before I found this channel I thought I knew a little bit about pop music in London in the 1960s. But I soon realised my knowledge was completely superficial. This is just another example of how this channel has revolutionised my understanding of the scene. I'd never heard a word about this project that some of the hippest people in London music production were enthusiastically working on.
@myles7522
@myles7522 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got this album on CD…it’s a lost Shannon masterpiece that I still listen to….just waiting it might one day be released on vinyl…
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd love to have it on vinyl.
@kulturkriget
@kulturkriget Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Looking forward to the follow up video.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shinyelbow
@shinyelbow Жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary video - I'd never heard of this before and cool that such an album came from an early '60s artist like Del Shannon. I'm going to have to give the whole album a listen.
@jamesovens4175
@jamesovens4175 Жыл бұрын
Great video on some great music. I discovered "Home And Away" and "The Further Adventures Of Charles Westover" last year and have been playing them loads. I was even listening to Mind Over Matter today, so was very pleasantly surprised to see your video on this period of Del Shannon's career. I understand the Billy Nicholls connection better now, with Del covering some of Nicholls songs and also The Small Faces playing on Del's and Billy's albums. There is a version of Cut And Come Again that Nicholls recorded himself on the compilation Snapshot, which appeared on Southwest Records in 1999 and includes many unreleased songs and demos which were recorded for the brilliant "Would You Believe" LP in 1968. Thank you Yesterday's Papers for your superb videos. Keep on doing what you're doing. 😎👍
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@willieluncheonette5843
@willieluncheonette5843 Жыл бұрын
Great job with this mini doc. I learn so much from your videos. Will check out those two attempts at a Pet Sounds answer. Your little touches such as the song playing in a car stereo and the accompanying images are so creative. For those who really like Under My Thumb, the great punk/hardcore band Social Distortion has several cover versions of the song on youtube.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks Willie, glad you enjoyed the video. I'll check that "Under My Thumb" cover.. I've got a couple of records by Social Distortion.
@willieluncheonette5843
@willieluncheonette5843 Жыл бұрын
@@YesterdaysPapers Mike Ness' story should be made into a movie. Beaten up, heroin addict, trying to hold SD together while in jails and detox centers. And" My alcoholism peaked. It took me five hours to get drunk. i did scary things in blackouts...i went from being a teenager going to gigs to having to maintain a habit. I was running with gangsters and criminals. I'd get into three fights a night." To a big label contract and financial success with big production videos and looking healthy.
@hume1963
@hume1963 Жыл бұрын
I think the British answer to Pet Sounds is Sgt Pepper easily. Paul said Pet Sounds inspired Sgt Pepper.
@mangrove
@mangrove Жыл бұрын
I love finding these gems, Del's records, Love's Forever Changes, Sixto Rodriguez's records, and Scott Walker's solo albums of the late 60s.
@1972glm
@1972glm Жыл бұрын
Ever since your video that featured Shannon as an artist who tried to adapt to the psychedelic 60s, I delved into Del's discography (Home and Away, The Further Adventures of Charles Westover, Rock On!) and absolutely love the albums. But Home and Away has some of the best music I've ever listened to. I always loved Runaway and knew a little about Shannon (like his end) but before you video, not much beyond that. Now I'm on a huge Beach Boys kick (Loves You, Adult/Child, Pet Sounds, listened to them a lot in college) and this being recommended to me so I've come back again to Del. Hugely underrated artist and the album should've been released (imagine Home and Away and SMiLE coming out within months of each other!). Thanks for your great history videos!
@2islandresort757
@2islandresort757 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content - I knew none of this, but was a fan of his Charles Westover album, which my brother had. Now to hunt down a copy of Home & Away. Many thanks.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you like his Charles Westover album, you're definitely going to like "Home & Away".
@CliffMcAulay
@CliffMcAulay Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting! Thank you for bringing yet more brilliant music out into the light. What a story, and well told by Yesterdays Papers.. Your channel has become such a go-to for great entertainment. Gonna check this out now.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Famulus9
@Famulus9 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Del Shannon doesn't do much for me personally, but Home and Away is certainly an underrated album, and you have to admire how Andrew assembled a supergroup of talented musicians for the project.
@PsychedelicGuy
@PsychedelicGuy Жыл бұрын
We're lucky Further Adventures is as recorded and properly released. I'd argue that it's even better than the tracks on Home and Away. Can't wait for the story of Billy Nicholls that's been a favorite album for years. A tragedy that didn't get passed the promo release stage at the time.
@theidiotsocietymusic
@theidiotsocietymusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for highlighting this gem
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Жыл бұрын
I came late to appreciating "Pet Sounds". As a high schooler when it was released I was pretty dismissive of that over produced "surf music sh*t" and the pop goody boys image of the Beach Boys. I supposed I liked my music rawer and was so much a Dylan fan that I'd already played the grooves off my "Hwy 61" album and was much anticipating Dylan's next master work. That was "Blonde on Blonde" and was released not too long after "Pet Sounds". Later in the '70's a girlfriend convinced me into listen to "Pet Sounds" and I started really hearing it for the first time. People can change!
@eargasm1072
@eargasm1072 Жыл бұрын
"Pet Sounds" was and is a landmark for the Beach Boys....but it's too bad it sorta became an albatross in their recording career/history because they made other fine, even excellent albums soon after like "Wild Honey", "Friends" and "Sunflower" that don't get their due because they are always being compared to this immortal album!
4 ай бұрын
Enjoing your videos immensely ♥️♥️
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers 4 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@lilmsgs
@lilmsgs Жыл бұрын
lol "It's the pop answer to Scheherazade" is like saying "It's the cerebral palsy answer to Fred Astaire dancing"
@zeusapollo8688
@zeusapollo8688 Жыл бұрын
Rock journalism is people who can't write writing for people who can't read. Zappa I think
@jbtownsend9535
@jbtownsend9535 Жыл бұрын
I love Home and Away & the Nichols Would You Believe album. Awesome channel- the “cool singles of ‘67” series is great. I would love to know more about your process. Thanks.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoy the videos.
@nigelcampag1290
@nigelcampag1290 Жыл бұрын
Great little doc, well done. I love Home & Away, such a shame it never got released at the time. I think the nearest UK LP we got to Pet Sounds that was released at the time is Harmony Grass on RCA. It's a little too bubblegum at times but still has a Pet Sounds influence. Mark Eric A Midsummers Day Dream released in the US is the nearest sound to Pet Sounds I've heard, beautiful LP.
@jerrywatt6813
@jerrywatt6813 Жыл бұрын
Great show YP keep up the good work CHEERS!
@lindadote
@lindadote Жыл бұрын
It’s a pity Home and Away wasn’t released at the time, I confess I’ve never heard of the album. I must rectify that. This was a remarkably well-made video with some interesting insight into Del Shannon. Thanks YP, terrific stuff!
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Linda. Thanks.
@lindadote
@lindadote Жыл бұрын
@@YesterdaysPapers …..this is why I love your channel and think it’s so vitally important. I’ve always been music-mad but quality bands were so prolific when I was young, many simply fell by the wayside. I’m learning of new gems with each of your videos and for that, I’m truly grateful.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
@@lindadote I'm really glad these videos are introducing you to bands and artists you were not familiar with, Linda. That's great. That's what it's all about!
@lindadote
@lindadote Жыл бұрын
@@YesterdaysPapers …..exactly. Still, you do all the work so I think I speak on behalf of many music-lovers when I say your hard work is seriously appreciated.
@johnmanning5193
@johnmanning5193 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to Del. He deserved better. But Andrew tried, God bless him.
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 Жыл бұрын
I was also interested in the Twice As Much duo's involvement as they'd also released Coldest Night Of The Year as a collaboration with Vashti Bunyan.
@johnmavroudis2054
@johnmavroudis2054 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing video. Great stuff about something I was completely in the dark about... Cheers!
@stephenwalker2924
@stephenwalker2924 Жыл бұрын
This is a great documentary. Loads of choice nuggets of facts and stories and trivia. Great scene-setting and background info. The fact that Billy Nicholls wrote part of the melody for While My Guitar Gently Weeps before George Harrison could even say 'plagarism' was a bit of a shocker, to be honest. Wow.
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero
@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've heard of Del Shannon but didn't know anything about his music apart from Runaway ...this has inspired me to check out his groovy sounds. 💖🐕
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 Жыл бұрын
I was so amazed that Del Shannon had released his version of Boyce & Hart's She before The Monkees had their hit version!
@adambeaudoin8818
@adambeaudoin8818 Жыл бұрын
An album that’s in the same sonic ballpark as Pet Sounds is Begin by the Millennium. It’s a Curt Boettcher project, co-produced by Keith Olsen. The album is a gem, an absolute treat for the ears.
@SEGAClownboss
@SEGAClownboss Жыл бұрын
"Begin" is excellent. Incredibly immaculate. The only way I can stay calm when I listen to it and not get upset it went on unknown is just simply knowing it was recorded by a bunch of studio production nerds, so they knew what they were doing.
@whatevershebrings
@whatevershebrings Жыл бұрын
Something like the most expensive production and over-budget pop record at the time, but what an achievement.
@user-kj4sn3yl5d
@user-kj4sn3yl5d Жыл бұрын
most underrated chanel in youtube
@01real1
@01real1 Жыл бұрын
4:20 - 4:35 - I like how you managed to sneak in a few beats from a new single from that band from Liverpool on a car radio. :-) Also, informative and nicely done video!
@protozaba
@protozaba Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love their version of Billy Nicholls' Come Again. "It's My Feeling" is also amazing. I didn't know Shannon committed suicide :(
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 Жыл бұрын
The "Pet Sounds sound" was sort of a fleeting thing in a decade that was quickly devolving into chaos. It still influenced the "sunshine pop" coming mostly from the west coast of the USA, with singles like Keith's 98.6 and The Lovin' Spoonfull's "Still a Mystery to Me" , and it got into some of the best pop instrumentals of those years like Herb Alpert's "Flamingo" and Rayond Lefevre's version of "Soul Coaxing". But I think it started to seem out of place as the Vietnam war kept escalating and riots spread in the USA; maybe it should have hung on longer in the UK, but it seems that that didn't happen.
@walterrizotto8668
@walterrizotto8668 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I actually thought this was about Billy Nichol's album and didn't know anything about "Home & Away". Now I've got to find me a copy!
@martakrupinska674
@martakrupinska674 Жыл бұрын
Great mini documentary. 🙂👍
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Marta.
@JRusk56
@JRusk56 Жыл бұрын
Your content and the way you put it together is really excellent. I never knew about most of this. I did know of Del Shannon ad Brian Wilson taking an acetate to Paul McCartney. But I new nothing of the album Del Shannon made and Andrew Oldhams insolvent in it all. I also did not know of the other album thing to capture the sound of Pet Sounds. I will make one suggestion. Slow down and pause a bit when you are announcing names. People need a bit to take it in. This is a very common problem on presenters on KZbin, and you are actually better than most. Let me give you an example. You could have said, "Then Del Shannon...[indicating slight pause to give the name time to fix in the listeners head (now I new his name already so that wasn't a problem for me, but it could be for others) and go on to mention his road manager and whatever else he was--see I missed some of that because you were moving just a bit too fast--and then move on]. Some of the other names like the guy who orchestrated the album. You mentioned the producer quikly after his name.Just slow down a touch. We need to get it all and not have to watch it again or pause and skip back. And I still don't know the name of the duo that made another album that tried to recr3ate the sound of 'Pet Sounds.' I think it would have better to introduce their name first and then say that they went on to release a critically acclaimed album later in 1967 that was very similar in feel and atmosphere to 'Pet Sounds'--us8ng your own wording which is excellent. Just pause a bit for the names so they can register in our minds. All in all, however, your research, information, and presentation were excellent. And I certainly enjoyed it. Wow, look at 'Sound of Music' still at number one, and all those other albums. A important factor is that the British preferred a softer, more poppy sound sound than Americans up til this point and probably to this day. The Doors had already released the8r first album in the US. Britain was beginning to have some artists with a heavier sound, especially out of London with groups like The Who. The Stones moved to a more aggressive r&b sound soon too, away from their softer experimentation in songs like 'As Tears Go By,' and 'Ruby Tuesday.'
@qasanoba
@qasanoba Жыл бұрын
It is thanks to this album and Brian Wilson that I decided to focus my energies on becoming a music producer. When I met The Beatles I wanted to be a rock star in my own band. When I met Brian I decided that what I wanted to do was to produce music...
@piggycity
@piggycity Жыл бұрын
The Billy Nicholls influence on the most fab of Beatles is very clear. Nice catch sir!
@Mustang_Sally_
@Mustang_Sally_ Жыл бұрын
Blew my mind hearing that Billy Nicholls song inspiring While My Guitar Gently Weeps. George picked from Bert Jansch too on For You Blue with Bert's Strollin Down The Highway. I like Girl From New York a bit as well by Billy.
@markpalmar70
@markpalmar70 Жыл бұрын
Just, fantastic! I recognised tracks from compliations but didn't know the story, amazing. I am a huge Del fan, also Billy Nicholls and really these records are pillars of art. I was in a lift with PP Arnold and Chris Farlowe, but that's another story. Are you doing a BN film? I wrote a song for PPA but again, another story. Ps who are you lol, very impressive indeed, my best Marc Lemon
@cubeg3271
@cubeg3271 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic doc!!
@johnebejer
@johnebejer Жыл бұрын
Great video. Could you do one on Scott Walker please. Keep up the good work.
@R_Jackson
@R_Jackson Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story that I've never encountered, well done!
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Doc_Tar
@Doc_Tar Жыл бұрын
Sounding like "Pet Sounds" really isn't a response to the original album, more like a derivative. Still learning this much on the background of these Del Shannon albums does put them into the right context and adds meaning to the effort.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
It does have plenty of influences from "Pet Sounds" but it doesn't really sound derivative or like a copy of Pet Sounds. It was supposed to be a british response to Pet Sounds in the sense that it was orchestrated and progressive pop music.
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 Жыл бұрын
the real answer to pet sounds was odessey and oracle del shannon was a unique talent who sadly got forgotten for many years until the tv show crime story used runaway as it's theme song this brought him new lease on life...sadly, he could not defeat his inner demons
@michaelpdawson
@michaelpdawson Жыл бұрын
Odessey and Oracle was my first thought, too.
@tonybates7870
@tonybates7870 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpdawson And me! The track "A Butcher's Tale" is absolutely harrowing and that whole album deserves to be much better known.
@wheelerconover8723
@wheelerconover8723 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpdawson Mine as well, although I would put "Bee Gees 1st" down the block in the same neighborhood.
@surfohio
@surfohio Жыл бұрын
Wonderful, now I've got to hear this album, it just sounds brilliant!!!!
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 Жыл бұрын
Loved this! Was always aware of the Beatles (McCartneys) infatuation with Pet Sounds and the influence it had on them. But nice to see how it went beyond them to other artists who were similarly influenced. Songs with a lysergic feel ... 😆
@Slamit88
@Slamit88 Жыл бұрын
Typing from the CA. West Coast here.....LOVE THIS....Very....Very....Very Kool/Interesting subject YP's.....Looking Back , I somehow could see Scott Walker ('Vibe Wise:) becoming involved on the Project also....regardless....Del Shannon was a TALENT & these Album Snippets Sound GREAT!!....Good Stuff & Cheers My Friends!!🎼🕶
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Eric. Your comment about Scott Walker is spot on. Scott loved that type of orchestrated sound.
@andrewrevans8496
@andrewrevans8496 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thanks for this
@jonhillman871
@jonhillman871 Жыл бұрын
i have always liked baroque pop but never gave it a proper deep dive. thank you for helping me find new avenues of music to explore. what if this record was a hit and del shannon did a big tour with it?
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
I think this album would be remembered as one of those great cult classic from the 60s if it had been released in 1967.
@glennwlove
@glennwlove Жыл бұрын
A great video, as a Pet Sounds fanatic, I’d never knew about Del’s album. But I’d consider that Odessey Oracle to be the British Pet Sounds.
@annee9809
@annee9809 Жыл бұрын
Love this Mini Documentary. Best produced biography of Billy Nicholls we've seen, and it would be a great addition to the Official Billy Nicholls Website. Can credit Yesterday's Papers but would like to know the name(s) of who actually put the video together.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. You can credit it as Yesterday's Papers, no problem.
@Randgalf
@Randgalf Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a piece like this about the Millenium project from 1968 as well.
@ulfhansson6599
@ulfhansson6599 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Brian !
@sb2165
@sb2165 Жыл бұрын
Billy Nicholls' own LP Would You Believe is of a similar ilk and well worth exploring. Great record.
@runningsuperska
@runningsuperska Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about this album, thanks.
@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105
@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105 Жыл бұрын
The British answer to Pet Sounds is Sgt Peppers, that's not even up for discussion.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 Жыл бұрын
In 1967 and through to about 1971 or 1972, Liberty was under distribution by Philips Industries. I have three examples of Liberty's two-tone blue labelled singles of that era. They were "Gimme Little Sign"(Brenton Wood), 1967, "[I'm The] Urban Spaceman"(Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band), 1968 and "Run Through The Jungle"(CCR), 1970. Of the three, the first and third singles mentioned had punch-out optional centres while the middle-named had the European large centre(I'm not about to credit America with that type of spindle centre, they're egotistical enough already).
@sashamoghilla2919
@sashamoghilla2919 Жыл бұрын
Nice infovideo again!
@ladismont8377
@ladismont8377 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thank you very much 😳
@Beatedelic_Records
@Beatedelic_Records Жыл бұрын
Del Shannon's "Silver Birch" from the 1968 album "The Further Adventures Of Charles Westover" anticipates the atmosphere of King Crimson's "Epitaph"
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Love that album and that song.
@todanceonbrokenglass
@todanceonbrokenglass Жыл бұрын
Perhaps too unknown, but would you ever consider a video on the album Gulliver Travels S/T on Instant (A subsidiary of Immediate records) that despite promising collaboration and lineup was pulled from shelves a week after its release?
@thelatepetercook
@thelatepetercook Жыл бұрын
Wow, I never really explored Del Shannon. I had no idea he had this soft psych-pop side in his back catalog.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
"Home & Away" and "The Further Adventures of Charles Westover" are well worth checking out. Both brilliant albums.
@traceya9615
@traceya9615 Жыл бұрын
@@YesterdaysPapers Yes, I'll be checking them out. Thanks for a wonderful and informative mini-doc gem 👍
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
@@traceya9615 Cheers!
@experience5988
@experience5988 Жыл бұрын
It´s unbelievable that this channel has only 40 k followers
@MrCimryadeal
@MrCimryadeal Жыл бұрын
Oh yes please! A video about Billy Nichols' Would You Believe! I LOVE this album!!!
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Yep, I love that album Great, great record.
@Wygruce
@Wygruce Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff
@SonofMrPeanut
@SonofMrPeanut Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately in the states, Capitol issued that Greatest Hits album and sunk Pet Sounds' sales momentum.
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 Жыл бұрын
that and us fans didnt like change
@wonsworld61
@wonsworld61 Жыл бұрын
The updated Runaway single was a hit here in Aus. but he was touring here when it was released.
@francoispedro3694
@francoispedro3694 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brillant ! Upper level, this time. Rispetto !
@Zagneek
@Zagneek Жыл бұрын
Superbly put together. I had a listen to the lp afterwards and it was an enjoyable listen. Very baroquedelic. Such a shame that he committed suicide. The Loogster is a bit of a character to say the least. I highly recommend his autobiography’s Stoned, 2Stoned and Rolling Stoned.
@YesterdaysPapers
@YesterdaysPapers Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the album. Oldham is definitely an interesting character.
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