"If I'm fixing the lightbulb and you're fixing the lightbulb... then who's flying this plane?!"
@dennismayfield88463 жыл бұрын
And if we screw-up, fixing the light-bulb, and the 'captain', is looking over our shoulders to 'make-sure' we do it right, then who's looking out the cockpit window? Aww-Jeez!!
@GeocaverDan4 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the day this happened! I was 9 years old and staying at my grandparents house in Sylmar California. As most 9 year olds of that period when the phone rings I would race grandma to the phone and like always I won. So I answered the phone when this man asked for Jesse Kraybill to come to the phone "it's important". So happy go lucky me yells and grabs grandpa and bring him to the phone it was then that things changed grandpa's smile became a frown and as soon as he hung up he asked grandma to put together his bag he's leaving for Miami NOW! U'see grandpa AKA Jesse Kraybill was the chief engineer for the L-1011's landing gear systems and he was told to fly to Miami to help in the investigation. I didn't really know what happened at the time except that there was an accident then later that night the news can in on flight 401 and I realized what had happened on that phone call. Needless to say there was nothing wrong with the gear system but grandfather always felt bad over the accident.
@wobblyjelly3454 жыл бұрын
😦 whaoh!
@kateoloughlin87744 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan Best I enjoyed reading your paragraph. Excellently written and worded. Kind regards from Ireland Kate. 👱♀️💕
@conniethomas47534 жыл бұрын
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@lob194 жыл бұрын
Amazing story told in an excelent way. Thank You
@tdrewman4 жыл бұрын
My friends has his father award hanging on his wall that his father got for being one of the first responders. He was in the Coast Guard and was part of the rescue team out of Miami Beach.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Idk if you guys know but while researching this I came across a lot of ghost stories about flight 401. Do you guys want a bonus episode about the ghost stories?
@bonciutalentadv75994 жыл бұрын
I have read in a book about the Pilots haunting the parts of the airplane and it is pretty interesting. Definetely a bonus episode would be awesome
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Get this apparently the pilots kept watch over other airplanes. A ghostly apparition told a flight attendant that the plane would have issues and then later on in the flight an engine failed or something like that
@bobtoler53224 жыл бұрын
Yes ! I really do not believe in ghost stories but the ghosts of 401 have fascinated me since the 1970s. They only appeared to flight crew on l1011s that had parts from the crashed plane installed as spares.Eastern had to reuse those parts because the plane was so new spare parts were in short supply.After telling a friend about the stories he flew Eastern and asked a F/A about it and he told me he got a very angry look but no answer.
@Penoatle4 жыл бұрын
A bonus would be cool and be off the usual path. Yeah, you should go for it.
@fyutffdtuibgfetu4 жыл бұрын
stick to reason and facts
@petenztube4 жыл бұрын
This accident is taught in every Human Factors class. It's just mind-boggling that this would happen.
@matteframe4 жыл бұрын
The flight crew sounds like the damn Three Stooges..
@dx14504 жыл бұрын
Well, that's what happens when you rely on technology so much. Used to be, we flew the planes. Now the planes fly us. This crew was so focused on trying to fix a broken light bulb they didn't focus on flying the plane.
@boeing757pilot3 жыл бұрын
Yes, fly the airplane first!
@jerryewing34473 жыл бұрын
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@LucaTurilli892 жыл бұрын
A human factor is the stupidity! If I was a fucking airplane safety advisor I would make sure to recommend that there is an audible warning each time the autopilot is turned on/off! This simple decision would've saved so many lives.
@chrisrekstad38823 жыл бұрын
I have seen the ACI episode for this crash twice in my aviation classes at school. Glad to see your explanation of it. I like how you compared the crash to the Titanic and how these high tech things went down because of a small human error.
@gglasser83754 жыл бұрын
I have watched nearly all Air Crash Investigation episodes. I love that your vids tend towards other crashes. But I really like that you chose to do this story, especially how you explained it in your disclaimer at the beginning. Thanks for the work!
@jameelhafeez97964 жыл бұрын
That was supposed to be my connecting flight to miami i missed due to a delay of my original flight.The accident still haunts me after all those years.
@wobblyjelly3454 жыл бұрын
OMG thats freaky. 😱
@lookyloo10004 жыл бұрын
Pics Jameel, or it didn't happen.lol
@seka19864 жыл бұрын
jameel hafeez lucky stiff!
@jameelhafeez97964 жыл бұрын
@@seka1986 As the saying goes "it was not my time".
@B3Band4 жыл бұрын
I was supposed to be on this flight too, but I had a bad feeling so i stayed home. I guess I'm even cooler and luckier than you.
@GiftHorse1233 жыл бұрын
I worked for Eastern 79-81. The L1011 was the king of the skies in my opinion. Those Rolls-Royce engines had a distinctive roar and upon takeoff, it was an incredible climb out.
@dx14504 жыл бұрын
Back in high school I read that book about the sister aircraft carrying parts from this aircraft supposedly being haunted. What the author of that book said was that the pilots were trying to get the gear indicator housing (which housed the burnt-out bulb) back into the panel. Apparently the bulb housing was slightly rectangular, and what the pilots were focused on was why it wouldn't snap back into place in the instrument panel. They had accidentally turned it 90 degrees and it wouldn't fit back in. Had it been square there wouldn't have been any issue. But at any rate, they were too focused on the light panel and not focusing on flying the plane, which was what caused the crash.
@davidward81914 жыл бұрын
Eastern Airlines was one of the best airlines flying. They were so far ahead of others in service, even to this day !
@eyetrapper4 жыл бұрын
Great work, sad to see an L1011 gone
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish tri jets had stuck around for a bit longer
@eyetrapper4 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation yes 100%
@nickkaning76163 жыл бұрын
@@eyetrapper it's easy to forget (for me anyway) how large those L1011 and DC10s were! Fine looking pieces of machinery! If you look up the specs, the combined thrust is still close to the top of the charts! L1011 was an amazing aircraft!
@eyetrapper3 жыл бұрын
@@nickkaning7616 agreed 100%, the L1011 is definitely one of my favourites
@juliusnepos60134 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most avoidable aviation accidents that happened
@ferdrewflores30144 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@raynibbs46794 жыл бұрын
Really? Read the book about it.. they did not have the technology we have today... who are you to judge them? I cannot believe this got a heart... I believe the L1011 was also the first aircraft to discover micro bursts, look it up.. I believe 1974. Armchair pilots... geez.
@innocento.15524 жыл бұрын
@@raynibbs4679 the question is not about the technology but the distraction. And sometimes experienced pilots are more dangerous because the can get over confident. Don't let your knowledge from the book block your understanding of the comment and the heart it got.
@johnking74544 жыл бұрын
Actually, if you bother to watch "Air Disasters" you will find many far more avoidable aviation accidents. Everything from pilots snorting cocaine the night before a flight to falsifying their qualifications and pilots so poorly trained that they don't even know the "Stick-shaker" is a stall warning!
@richardcranium34173 жыл бұрын
@@raynibbs4679 Armchair critic critics.....geeez
@sarahalbers55554 жыл бұрын
I lived in Miami when this happened. It was devastating. On top of every thing else, the crash site, in the Everglades was a bio hazard. Yes, this has been done before, but you did a really good job as usual ! This still troubles me years later.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Apparently the everglades itself was a danger to the survivors after they crashed. A lot of people almost drowned
@sarahalbers55554 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation jet fuel, swampy water and alligators. It was truly a nightmare.
@pollypockets5084 жыл бұрын
:-(
@RussellD114 жыл бұрын
ValueJet - Allegiant
@heavysnow86164 жыл бұрын
Not to mention poisonous snakes and whatever else swims around those waters.
@harveysmith1004 жыл бұрын
This was one of very few L1011 Tristar loses. The greatest airliner ever built.
@wyomingptt4 жыл бұрын
Eh to each their own I think the DC-10 is the all time best though.
@lookyloo10004 жыл бұрын
Agreed Harvey ! What a beauty ! I'll never forget boarding my first one (Delta) I just kept thinking wow...9seat rows and two aisles...this thing is huge ! Probably flew on ten or so of them and every flight was amazingly smooth. What an aircraft.
@harveysmith1004 жыл бұрын
@@lookyloo1000 I worked on the Tristar as cabin crew for five years and every flight was special. Lockheed sure know how to build aircraft.
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor4 жыл бұрын
@@harveysmith100 yeah I like lockheed
@johnking74544 жыл бұрын
@@wyomingptt - The DC-10 was a mess. Faulty cargo door latches led to crashes, a blown tail engine knocked at ALL three hydraulic systems forcing a crash landing with about half the passengers killed and a poor engine mounting design aggravated by maintenance issues led to an engine falling off and a fatal crash in Chicago.
@SimonTekConley3 жыл бұрын
I work in a completely different industry, but I've had people come up to coworkers with a problem, and have gone over the fix to the issue with them. It may have not been my job to do so at the time, but it's the problem solving nature, you hear a problem and you become curious. I would not be surprised if everyone was thinking about the problem and assumed the other person was flying
@billnye55074 жыл бұрын
"A small beeping indicating that the plane was dangerously low to the ground" _"Terrain, Terrain, Pull Up, Pull Up"_
@joebeastyg56864 жыл бұрын
I think a disco ball and Who Let the Dogs Out should automatically play when you're too low. You won't miss that warning.
@markprange43864 жыл бұрын
--Not back then.
@richardcranium34173 жыл бұрын
@@joebeastyg5686 like this one
@mattwilliams34564 жыл бұрын
Such a sad crash set in motion by the failure of a several cent light bulb. Oddly I have a connection with 3 different people involved with this crash. My mother was a nurse who treated some of the survivors, a friend of my father was a Miami police officer who was among those that were choppered out to the crash site to help in the rescue, and another friend of his was the Eastern pilot who’d flown this plane on the previous flight. One of the survivors ended up marrying a nurse from the hospital that treated him. Sadly a number of initial survivors died days later because bacteria in the Everglades mud caused gas gangrene in the wounds that would otherwise have been survivable.
@dx14504 жыл бұрын
You know I was thinking that if they had designed the "gear down" lights with not one but two bulbs in parallel, if one burnt out the other would still be lit and this accident would never have happened.
@curbyourshi1056 Жыл бұрын
You put succinct and understandable detail in. Never be shy about doing a video that someone else has done.
@jimbrewer4984 жыл бұрын
Pilot's first job, FLY THE DAMN AIRCRAFT!
@GiordanDiodato3 жыл бұрын
if the changes after this crash were never fully implemented, United 232 would have been a lot more disastrous.
@mcmoose644 жыл бұрын
Don't sell your self short in relation to ACI . You manage to to convey the same information in a fraction of the time , minus the superfluous re-enactments.
@Trevorfoggia4 жыл бұрын
I remember well this incident, I was 11 and just beginning to have an interest in aviation - which I still have to this day. I have read a good few books on the incident, too. I remember one book was named ‘the ghost of Don Repo’. Chilling books.
@Tlyna19523 жыл бұрын
They made a movie of it too, The Ghost of Flight 401 with Ernest Borgnine as the pilot.
@badgerden70802 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you decided to cover this because Disaster Breakdown, for some reason, refuses to cover this accident.
@JKevinBrady8014 жыл бұрын
An aspect not mentioned was the co pilot said, A FULL SEVEN SECONDS BEFORE IMPACT, we are still at 2,000 feet, right? Plenty of time to take action. But he turned to the captain who said” what’s going on here?! The captain was know to be autocratic ( many were back then before CRM) and I suspect the co pilot did not want to act before the captain assessed the situation or to defer it to him - this is my speculation only, but 7 seconds is a lot of time to act?
@MovieMakingMan2 жыл бұрын
A simple fix to the lightbulb issue would be removing it and swapping it with the bulb assembly next to it. They were identical. The crew should have been knowledgeable about their instrument panel to know they could simply swap the bulb assemblies and confirm the landing gear was down. What could have been a 2-3 minute swap turned into a disaster. How many pilots out there are aware of how their instrument panels are constructed?
@vincitveritas38724 жыл бұрын
Very heart breaking due to a bulb out causing so much distraction. RIP all.
@bonciutalentadv75994 жыл бұрын
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@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t even the first time if I’m correct. I seem to recall a DC 8 that ran out of fuel cause the crew were trouble shooting something like a broken bulb
@reggierico4 жыл бұрын
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation That was probably Iberia airlines, who ran out of fuel over NYC, while holding for an extensive period of time.
@dx14504 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they didn't design the displays with redundant light bulbs. Having two light bulbs in parallel in critical displays like that would have prevented the confusion which led up to that crash. If one burned out, the other would still be lit.
@vincitveritas38724 жыл бұрын
@@dx1450 sad that there wasn't a fail safe way of checking landing gear was down. A failed bulb shouldn't cause a crash. Extremely sad
@RegulatedMilitia4 жыл бұрын
if the alerts were a bit louder then it might have prevented this
@johnking74544 жыл бұрын
Air Traffic Controllers also needed to be better trained. You see an A/C that's supposed to be at 2,000 feet and you show it at 900 feet you don't ask "Are you OK"... you command "Eastern 401, say altitude!" That's how you save over a hundred lives with just four words!
@Caracaraorangeberry3 жыл бұрын
there are stories that employees saw deceased crew members, cpt Robert Loft and FO Don Repo, sitting on board L-1011s that were fitted with salvaged parts from the accident aircraft.
@joshuapatrick6824 жыл бұрын
Everyone botched this one. I know it’s not his duty but All The ATC has to do was say “we’re reading you at 900 ft can you confirm?” And this accident would have been avoided.
@bvnseven3 жыл бұрын
yeah, that didn't make any sense to ask them if they were "OK" with that discrepancy in altitude.
@xonx2093 жыл бұрын
Yeah, why install a radar that shows the planes' altitude if the controllers are not using it to prevent plane crash?
@spryfolII4 жыл бұрын
Bad week for the airlines. Just a few hours later, Roberto Clemente on a mercy mission was killed in a plane crash. Even though it wasn't a commercial flight, it was a bad look and 1973 began with 2 high profile plane crashes and I remember officials reassuring people about the safety of air travel. I was 4 years old and I remember having bad dreams about planes.
@casparcoaster19363 жыл бұрын
Yes the ACI just faded the issue of what happened, very frustrating, this one was enlightening
@shreddder9994 жыл бұрын
When the nearest Radio Shack used to be closer then 60 miles, they were just about as costly for bulbs.
@dd_ranchtexas45014 жыл бұрын
Really glad to see this info again. I remember the first detailed description of the crash investigation and everything you said about lack of CRM was correct. There was one item that you did not mention that has stuck in my brain all these years. As a design engineer (now retired) I noticed that the original investigation found an oddity about how the auto pilot disengage worked. They said that either of the yokes could disengage it and each position had a light to indicate status. HOWEVER, the light for the position that caused the disengagement would indicate "auto pilot off", BUT the light at the other position would still indicate "auto pilot engaged"! Really bad human interface. No excuse for bad CRM, but if the captain accidentally disengaged it, the FO's light would still say that it was engaged. If I recall correctly, that was changed after the crash........... This may have been a small contributing factor to this unnecessary fuster-cluck. So sad that those lives were lost due to such bad CRM................
@mjrussell4143 жыл бұрын
Now I get that it wasn’t the air traffic controller’s job to mention their altitude, but just a simple change to his sentence and it would have alerted the pilots to their error. Makes me think it’s a good thing my husband never wanted to become an ATC because he can’t communicate the smallest of notions/concepts/plans/ideas.
@jfergs.33023 жыл бұрын
my thoughts entirely, though not about your husband, i don't know him :) ... and not the controllers job!?!? he saw a problem, asked 'you alright', why did he not add, 'cos were showing you at 900ft' to say the controller did all he could, not in my book he didn't
@davidgoulden59562 жыл бұрын
@@jfergs.3302 Definitely not an expert on this fascinating tragedy - or aviation in general. Very far from it. Still, though, I was struck immediately by the ATC's failure to mention the plane's low altitude. It would have taken him a couple of seconds - and made all the difference. Or am I missing something?
@Aparanoidpunk64 жыл бұрын
You are amazing man! Keep up the good work you should also try to add some crash footage and pics and then you will rovkkkkkkkk
@geoffroots80953 жыл бұрын
How sad that 101 people died over a broken bulb. Couple of questions. Don't they carry spare bulbs? If not, did the flight engineer have a toolkit containing a multi meter? which could have been used to confirm the switching voltage at the bulb terminals.
@ih3023 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a question of spare bulbs, it was a question of them messing with bulbs and not flying the plane.
@yuriythebest3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Why didn't they just do a visual flyover to verify that the landing gear was down?
@briant72653 жыл бұрын
It needs to be locked also.
@maanmohammad84594 жыл бұрын
So what would it take for the controller to add "why are you at 950 feet instead of 2000""?
@boeing757pilot3 жыл бұрын
Yes.. If the controller was going to contact him because he noticed possible low altitude, then he should have specifically stated low attitude. His transmission was much too vague and ambiguous.
@martinwarner11783 жыл бұрын
@@boeing757pilot Yes, I often, when sitting as a car passenger, and seeing an accident about to happen say, "everything ok" yeah right on!
@boeing757pilot3 жыл бұрын
@@martinwarner1178 Yes. Exactly. Communicate. Be specific!! Vague transmissions open to interpretation are useless.
@ih3023 жыл бұрын
Accidents normally only ever happen after a series of oversights or errors, rarely does an air accident occur as a result of just one error.
@tonybarde25723 жыл бұрын
Now the legend of the Ghosts of Flight 401 will always be told around campfires
@robertholden89563 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and to the point narration. Sure, the big channels have more content, but they pad with irrelevant stuff and we are no wiser.
@erictaylor54623 жыл бұрын
Did they ever figure out if the gear had malfunctioned, or was the bulb burned out?
@MrEsMysteriesMagicks4 жыл бұрын
I'm no pilot, but even I know that Rule #1 is Fly The Plane. You hit it right on the nose when you said that one pilot should have been doing just that while the other dealt with the problem.
@tylerblocker25012 жыл бұрын
I had to fly with eastern a few days ago, it’s the only time I’ve ever been scared on an airplane. I’m not sure if it was inexperienced pilots or what but we landed on the left gear only and bounced. It was the scariest aviation related moment of my life.
@tent70143 жыл бұрын
Great Video MACI. Just one point did the nose wheel actually lock down. Not that it mattered but ?
@RealScarKnight4 жыл бұрын
love your videos
@heavysnow86164 жыл бұрын
So, was the bulb defective? Most, if not all, indicator lights in the cockpit have a press to test feature to determine bulb serviceability. You press the light assembly cover and if the bulb illuminates, it’s serviceable. I worked on military aircraft for 30-years and I find these scenarios very interesting and extremely sad. They mentioned the maintenance person on board, he or she was unaware on how to correctly open an access door to check the mechanical indicators? Also, why didn’t the maintenance person assist a bit more before being asked? The pilot had all the players he needed to deal with a relatively simple issue. Task saturation, all eyes glued on one issue, they forget the most important step: to keep the jet in the air. RIP to those who perished, prayers to all involved.
@yettobseen3 жыл бұрын
It was an amazing aircraft flew once from Philadelphia to Miami I was about 17 and it was a great ride.
@frankfarago28254 жыл бұрын
Cockpit Chat: "Hey does any of you guys want to climb outside and take off the exterior protective cover from the landing gear porthole?" "Hey, what was that chime?" -- "Dunno, probably nothing." "Hey, we're still at 2000, right?" -- while looking at the altimeter showing 700-ft. or less. Miami ATC Chat: "Hey, how are you guys doing out there. Still at 2000 -- or have you guys just decided to land in Everglades at the stroke of midnight?" Anyhow, seems like half the airlines crashes in this period were logged by Eastern Airlines aircraft and pilots.
@bonciutalentadv75994 жыл бұрын
New episode! Time to watch
@richardlewis74714 жыл бұрын
This is the beauty of the DC10. There was a landing gear indication on the pilots panel AND the flight engineers panel. Simple redundancy for a critical system. Very surprised this was not incorporated on the L1011.
@lauraandlisa3814 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the bonus ghost story. Iam an aircrash accidents freak since my teens. Glad I came across your channel. Just subscribed!
@BuffDriver3 жыл бұрын
Find the book "The Ghost of Flight 401" by John G. Fuller. Amazing read. You'll buy a ouigi board.
@lauraandlisa3813 жыл бұрын
@@BuffDriver thank you, I'll look it up.
@aftonline4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how the broken bulb caused this crash. It was the disabling of the autopilot that caused the aircraft to lose altitude. Surely the pilot in command should have been aware of who or what was or was not in control of the aircraft. Not to be too hard on that pilot as he lost his life and his family were bereaved, but ultimately the plane would have been able to land if somebody on board made sure the plane stayed on course and at the correct altitude. The nosewheel issue only became critical at the point of landing and was probably already resolved as they entered the final approach, but the aircraft was just too low.
@davecue24 жыл бұрын
This crash changed aviation for the better. Too bad so much is written in blood. Crew resource management (CRM) was greatly improved after this. In other words each pilot has their said tasks. Too many people fussing over a bulb, not enough people flying the plane.
@paintedsmile52823 жыл бұрын
In terms of trusting the aircraft or trusting the automation. There was one well seasoned pilot (who also served as a test pilot) who follows a line of thought that I would say is a safe bet when flying. He always assumes that the aircraft he's flying is trying to kill him until it proves itself to be a safe aircraft. By that he means he always double checks things the aircraft is telling him until the aircraft proves there's nothing wrong with it before he puts trust in the aircraft.
@sweetcarbine2 жыл бұрын
how about being able to trust that moving to sip water as a pilot wont turn off the auto pilot. who designs these panels where someone moving about turns off something as important as auto pilot.
@rajasimanta3 жыл бұрын
I prefer this above Air Crash Investigation.
@pascalcoole27254 жыл бұрын
Classic mistake.... forgetting to do the only thing what you are there for, flying the airplane. In case of trouble the Capt. is responsible to make sure that someone is flying the machine while the other diagnoses and solves the problem. This is aircraft type in depend, but has all to do with CRM
@Cyberstar913 жыл бұрын
Idk why man. Each time your vids come into my recommendation, its always L1011 aircraft.
@dennismayfield88463 жыл бұрын
One can only say, "...no, no, no,!; wtf? Very bad sit-rep at that point. Splendid recreation of situation 'Captain'!
@jimbrewer4984 жыл бұрын
The L-1011 had and was advanced feature called auto land technology.
@raygiordano10453 жыл бұрын
"For the want of a nail...." I really enjoy these videos. If I get put on the "No Fly" list it wouldn't bother me much.
@thunderjet42944 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention Titanic her hull number was 401 kinda of an odd similarity
@shahrulrahim4 жыл бұрын
Great episode! 👍🏻
@Cnicbr3 жыл бұрын
This is very strange, if you make something that make the autopilot to disengange a alarm will sound loud in the cockpit.
@YourOldUncleNoongah4 жыл бұрын
Mate you go do ALL the ones from ACI ill still watch your vids. I really enjoy your work.
@restojon14 жыл бұрын
Really interesting this one. It says a lot of the history of airliner development when you mentioned the level of automation and the dependence on it. Lockheed were maybe a bit too far ahead of the game in some ways.
@joanesp1003 жыл бұрын
It is very odd when state of the art, incrashable or unsinkable boats, ships or space shuttles tend to succumb to accidents they were designed to avoid
@sweetcarbine2 жыл бұрын
systems are designed but then someone from management wants to save 5 dollars and they put bad lights or switches that have design issues. Imagine throttle position changing because pilot was moving to sip some water.
@chucksdesk4 жыл бұрын
True story, about the time the book came out called “The Ghost of Flight 410”, I purchased one of the early copies. I had left the Air Force and was seeking a job with the airlines. The book was an interesting read and my copy I thought especially interesting as the hardback cover was upside down as related to the print on the pages.
@ifor20got4 жыл бұрын
Another Great Job. Thanks
@AlpineJoy4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mini Air Crash Investigator, Your fine video here made me want to comment! As I can't comment while watching from my television, your video prompted me to do an unusual thing: To get up from my easy chair, and retrieve my laptop! As you so rightly state in your video, one person should always be "flying the plane," while other crew members troubleshoot the problem. As such, I made sure to keep my laptop firmly in my grasp, so as not to drop it, while the other part of my consciousness navigated returning to my chair, and draping the long electric power cord over intervening furniture to be able to use it in my seat. Mission accomplished--both laptop and myself returned safely to my chair, due to your excellent admonition. ANYWAY..... I just wanted to say you did an excellent job on this video, and I wanted to THANK YOU for it! The final part of this "flight" will be when I return this laptop to my desk, again carefully "flying"--er, grasping--it, so that it may not fall off my lap if I should nod off and fall asleep! One person ALWAYS needs to fly the plane! Thanks, David
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for your support David!
@alitehrani34154 жыл бұрын
Was great you did not mentioned they could have asked tower to see if their front landing gear was extended
@anongos4 жыл бұрын
I thought that too but then I remembered it was a night flight. How is tower supposed to see if the landing gear is down or not when it's dark outside?
@nicness88824 жыл бұрын
hi, i found ur channel not long ago, its really good keep it up :D
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much it really does mean a lot!
@barbhelle54814 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I enjoy your video's. I wear my mask too.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Thank you barb! Stay safe out there!
@t.j.ziegler45673 жыл бұрын
How many pilots does it take to change a lightbulb?
@kharmascribbles32074 жыл бұрын
Love your story-tail narration! It's like you're reading us a story - very well done! I just wish the images matched with the subjects/events you talk about.. The video throws me off sometimes and I find it difficult to focus on what you're saying.. can't explain why though :/ That's a minor thing, your channel is still my favorite to learn about airplane accidents :)
@useridgaf-p6b4 жыл бұрын
This crash has been beaten to death. Not only do you have to watch the fuck out of it in CRM in initial and recurrent, every new "crash investigator" thinks they are the first to report on it.
@kickedinthecalfbyacow75493 жыл бұрын
You know you choose what to watch on KZbin
@Maelli5354 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Maybe I missed something, but: Were the investigators able to find out whether the gear was in fact down and locked? If it was, it would be an even greater tragedy.
@MiniAirCrashInvestigation4 жыл бұрын
Actually it was. I forgot to include that for some reason
@kenbrickman44124 жыл бұрын
Then why couldn't someone just look out the window to see if the gear was down...was everyone just ready for bedtime ???
@Maelli5354 жыл бұрын
@@kenbrickman4412 The problem was with the center gear, under the cockpit. That can't be seen from the cockpit, obviously. And even so, it has to be confirmed that the gear is not just down, but also locked, i.e. held rigid, so it won't just fold up again on touchdown.
@wyomingptt4 жыл бұрын
@@Maelli535 Plus if it was daytime, the ATC crew could have visually confirmed it during the flyby.
@BT2RC4 жыл бұрын
The captain could have declared emergency and done a low pass over the airfield and got visual confirmation...and even land with potential nose wheel problem. Wheel not down is very survivable, Poor airmanship all the way around.
@2009korz4 жыл бұрын
I was visiting my grandparents in Ft. Lauderdale when this happened.
@shirleysmith81083 жыл бұрын
Stupid mistakes cost so many lives..so sad 😥
@TheDuglas634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for digging deeper, fantastic show, thanks, Douglas, oh and yes to ghost stories lol.
@sweetcarbine2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when to save money you dont engineer the panels and interface. Throttle chaging position due to pilot looking at them, auto pilot turning off because pilot was breathing too heavily. glad automation will get rid of all these errors.
@druzod60173 жыл бұрын
The cover photo is the actual aircraft involved. N310EA
@sorcxo4 жыл бұрын
You are doing a great work. I really appreciate. Thank you
@H1Hummer3 жыл бұрын
Wow that is an expensive light bulb.
@voltsoftruthBSbuster4 жыл бұрын
This just plain ridiculous to say the controller went beyond his duty to do everything he could. Maybe if he said "Eastern 401 why are u at 900 instead off 2000," perhaps that statement could have averted this tragedy. I know he wasn't required to do so, but I would have. I doesnt cost money to be inquisitive and speak up if you feel something is not right. Even if the crew has complete control of the situation and get frustrated with u for asking it's better than the alternative. This has happened to me on number of occasions when I though the driver of a car was paying attention but decided to speak up anyway, and it turned out the driver had nodded off and the front seat passenger wasn't paying attention. Had I said nothing in fear of being ridiculed for being a back seat driver we would have crashed. So I personally don't think the air traffic controller did everything in his power to avert this, he did the bare minimum, probably to cover his ass. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to shift the blame on him, and I'm in no position to judge him, it was the pilots fault 100%. But to say nothing more could have been done to avoid this, I don't agree.
@vincitveritas38723 жыл бұрын
The Herald of Free Enterprise ferry disaster a crew member walked past the open bow doors and didn't alert anyone. When asked why he said it wasn't his job.
@c0r5e3 жыл бұрын
Real Question: What happend with the bulb
@Ticklestein2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. You said ACI does a good job at showing what happened. 😆
@macahitt3 жыл бұрын
Aviate then navigate then communicate. Flying the plane is top priority.
@czr7j92 жыл бұрын
i read that that they used the usable parts on new planes and they were haunted
@richardnailhistorical34453 жыл бұрын
This is such a tragedy, all people in cockpit where highly experienced, very capable of flying that plane which makes this crash that much more hard to grasp. There is a lesson here but I don't think humans will understand what it is, i.e., no matter what humanity engages in, e.g., industrializing entire world like is happening now, humans are distracted by the excitement of the adventure but spend little time in foreseeing eventual consequences because their vision is blurred by glory and hubris. The penalty for our current goal will be far more than a plane & few hundred people, it will be entire planet!
@chrisantoniou43664 жыл бұрын
Was it ever established that the nose gear was in fact down and locked?
@AtlantaTerry4 жыл бұрын
Look above. Asked and answered. Yes, the nose gear was down and locked.
@HEDGE10114 жыл бұрын
Yes. The AAR is free to read online. Google it.
@TheBieberblaster4 жыл бұрын
You should make documentaries.
@joshuapatrick6824 жыл бұрын
Aviate, Navigate, communicate...
@DaveAllredDNA3e83 жыл бұрын
Where can I see the aci you mentioned?
@congruentcrib3 жыл бұрын
$12 bulb? Jeez what kind of bulbs you using?
@dandee70452 жыл бұрын
Commenting to boost the algorithms
@aurora.the.explorer4 жыл бұрын
But, what about the light? Was it broken or not?! WE MUST KNOW!!
@HailTheGamerz4 жыл бұрын
Both light bulbs were burnt out. If you want to read more on this you can google it and go to the FAA's lessons learned site, its pretty interesting reading.
@errol26054 жыл бұрын
y'know if this is the titanic of air incidents there needs to be a song with a weird music video for this incident, like how the titanic has down among the dead men. still! great video
@henryrollins91774 жыл бұрын
I usually drive 8 to 12 hours in a row...DRIVING ..! In a southamerican road..! Imagine all the atention that is required and only to preserve myself and some others alive... And these guys can't keep an eye on their instruments? While flying with hundreds of souls onboard? Damn, these plane accidents channels are making me nervous... I work overseas and make 6 flights a month...(before covid 😀)
@troodon10964 жыл бұрын
Flying is statistically safer than driving by far; if a driving a car doesn't scare you, flying shouldn't either.
@adrinathegreat30954 жыл бұрын
They weren't or at least shouldn't of been concerned with the bulb, they blow it's no biggie. Better off asking ground control to check if thier landing gear was down, they have binoculars so the problem could have been avoided. But hindsight is a wonderful thing, to me it sounded like incompetence on the part of the flight crew