The Brutal Life Of STARKILLER - Vader's Secret Apprentice

[@VadersFortress2]

What do you guys think about the rumour that Starkiller is the masked Inquisitor in Ahsoka? (Sam Witwer was listed in the credits apparently)

[@landscapingkid2578]

They’ll butcher him if it is him

[@dr.bright6272]

It'll ruin him. He's too good to be reduced to an Inquisitor

[@landscapingkid2578]

@@dr.bright6272 he could solo any of them easily

[@dr.bright6272]

@@landscapingkid2578 he could solo anyone easily

[@paulsarnik8506]

Nope

[@anzelcanete435]

I’d take this story on the silver screen over the entirety of the sequel trilogy any day of the week

[@may.the.gu.be.with.u]

Cry harder

[@nathanhawee5373]

Oooo ya. Who doesn't want to see starkiller pull a destroyor from space?

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@nathanhawee5373 Anybody.

[@Montagne1234]

I'd take it over everything past 2015

[@chonkeboi]

@@Montagne1234I mean I thought the bad batch was really good

[@enraged_user]

i think starkiller is the first "jedi" i ever had a connection to, i love star killer, i know/heard every story

[@randyschwaggins]

Hatred runs deep within you it seems

[@Sinsirink]

​@randyschwaggins ur mistaken love powers starkiller. Nun creats that much hatred but love and betrayed love

[@nonamenolife01]

I feel Like The force Unleashed could have used more Story between Vader finding him and His First mission

[@RockingRebelYell]

There is interesting implications on this time that he was on Honogor, and was discovered by Mara Jade before the first mission.

[@HENNY_22]

​@@RockingRebelYellsource?

[@NickMartinproductions]

He trained him to be an assassin, that’s it. 😊

[@AndorRadnai]

They would most likely write a section about his training into it if the game were to be remade today.

[@tacocatking7887]

Could’ve served as a great tutorial in the beginning of the campaign. Training with Vader is something we’ve never seen

[@jermf35]

Yeah that was cool. Finally someone who tells us both sides of the story or the results for both choices. I like these longer videos. Good job and thanks

[@VadersFortress2]

Glad you enjoyed! :)

[@starkilr101]

Galen is a man that became powerful due to being forged under Vader’s brutal hands and resembles Atreus from God of War in how both come into their own. Starkiller the clone is a man without an identity and his story is actually really tragic

[@NickMartinproductions]

Not as tragic as Darth Vader’s. It’s almost the opposite, and Juno doesn’t exactly reciprocate the same way Padmé does. Starkiller is a cold hearted man who lost his father in front of his eyes.

[@dawidschaffrath8426]

Even Starkiller considers Vader’s life more tragic. He even said to Vader: „without me you will never be free”

[@NickMartinproductions]

"as long as she lives, i will always control you"@@dawidschaffrath8426

[@joshlamb9443]

The dark side ending of force unleashed 2 suggests that you we’re playing the original Galen the entire time since all of the data entry’s that you collect say that there was only one successful clone.

[@TheLastViking27]

Or you was the clone and the one that attacks you is the og who's been brainwashed once again

[@joshlamb9443]

@@TheLastViking27 that very well could be the case

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

​@@joshlamb9443🎉 they're both clones.

[@joshlamb9443]

@@DarthDread-oh2ne maybe but the database entries that you find only say there was one successful clone

[@Saint01_Arts]

I think the “one successful clone” is referencing the clone that was deemed perfect by Vader. The Dark Side clone that killed the Light Side clone in the Dark Side ending.

[@dr.bright6272]

Proxy using psychological warfare on Vader was a good choice

[@martinchrom4444]

No high ground this time though

[@aetherinfuse]

He had no way to know about the history of Vader and Kenobi though. My personal interpretation is that Proxy chose Obi-Wan Kenobi due to his mastery of Soresu, form III, the best defensive form. Bu using it, Proxy could give more time to Starkiller to recover and resume the battle

[@Videomakerrobin]

Best star wars game ever we need this back

[@BlueBeetleDroid]

Yep

[@damiandamiano3651]

we did , swfu2... But original game is still best, vader vs starkiller encounters were funny tho

[@Drill74268]

Innit

[@jorenfrazier725]

I just remember being Vader and force choking wookies at the beginning of the game. The newer games are good but that game had a different feel to it

[@blvddyblvntz567]

i never played the force awaken but in soul calibur 4 he was BADASS AF

[@ZillaPrimeX2]

Revan and StarKiller my two favs forever

[@owensoto1373]

Back when the Disney sequels first came out I thought the plot twist for force awakened or the last jedi was going to be that Rey* was the daughter of Galen Merrick and Juno eclipse

[@twilimess]

Rey*

[@ChristianFrates1997]

That makes more sense.

[@ofekk213]

That would've actually been way better than her being Palpatine's granddaughter. Heck, it would actually justify her being so powerful too!

[@numbandintheend]

I wish man… anything else would’ve justified the fans intelligence

[@LThafightRYt]

Fr man

[@RT-gx3tw]

Galen Merrick appeared almost as an alternate version of Anakin Skywalker. It's almost a "what if" Anakin wasn't confined to a suit. The force unleashed gave us a taste of many dark side powers. A third game on the new platform would be epic.

[@Ronin_Vector]

Starkiller is fan-fictiony as hell, but I love him.

[@elfancypants2720]

You do realize he's in star wars legends non Canon

[@VelvetMagician]

@@elfancypants2720Not to mention Lucas himself was involved a lot with the development. He absolutely loved it

[@dazediss6629]

@@VelvetMagicianthis is the main reason it doesn’t work. Of course Lucas is gonna say he was involved with it & loved it, he’s on the payroll you numbty. He’s not gonna turn around and say “not my idea, don’t like it, load of shit”… If he truly liked the idea then guess what - it would have been depicted in his fucking lifelong work; episodes 1-6. Imagine being so nearsighted to think that George Lucas of all people who’s been writing these stories for 60 years hadn’t thought about giving his main character of Anakin Skywalker, an apprentice… Of course he’s thought about it, and decided against it. Disney have decided to force feed us characters like Ahsoka & Starkiller because of one reason; The reason is that when Disney are given full creative freedom - they give us episodes 7-9. Which absolutely sucked and were commercial suicide for the company; and as such, they’ve then thought “why not just make cool characters and then force them into existing lore”… Only total baffoons would like the concepts of Ahsoka & Starkiller. The same type of people who send money to Nigerian gangs on Facebook with a profile picture of a porn star saying how attractive they think you are.

[@9kFrench]

Nobody ever said he wasn't All he said was it seems like a fanfic type character​@@elfancypants2720

[@Dream-ye7ut]

​@@VelvetMagicianYeah, Juno, Proxy and Ram Kota were created because Lucas wanted Starkiller to have the complete Star Wars Protagonist package, even the Emperor makes an appearance because Lucas wanted him to be part of the game. Lucas may not have written a word on paper but he still shaped the story into the final product.

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

It makes me wonder how powerful Starkiller would have been had he been trained as normal at the jedi temple before the purge, seeing as he could already pull a saber from a sith lords hands before he was even a padawan is something in itself

[@darthbane4980]

Starkiller cut in front of me at Disneyland

[@spencer6331]

Sick

[@NinjaNuggets21]

Still more compelling than Rey and the stoopid sequels

[@shaneharris6156]

One of the best part of any Star War games is just Jack witness when you find star killer amazingly done fun you could feel how strong Vaders anger made him.

[@braddavis8909]

I like to imagine after the canon ending where Galen dies Darth Vader realised “damn I could’ve killed the emperor with him”

[@dawidschaffrath8426]

6:53 Yeah. This look on Vaders face when Galen is holding Palpatines lightning shows all.

[@jackbannister4138]

​@dawidschaffrath8426 yea he looks depressed like starkiller said you will never be free without me

[@KingLouie404]

We need the force unleashed III

[@supremenematode1148]

we were supposed to get one but it was canceled

[@nicholassmither1804]

​I did hear about that, which is disappointed

[@ratguts-l6y]

Won't Happen game company's don't care anymore

[@aaronsmithjr.5505]

Putting Galen Marek, in the down powered Ahsoka show is nothing more than an insult.

[@kylewilliams5454]

Galen Marek is weaker in the novels and comics anyway.

[@afuckingblackhawkhelicopte5203]

hes not in it?

[@Humanipathic]

It’s not him and he could never be that posed to live action 🤡

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

@@kylewilliams5454even in the Novel he’s still powerful enough to fold most other Jedi and Sith including Ahsoka.

[@Soloong_Gaybowzer]

@@afuckingblackhawkhelicopte5203 They put his Sith Ending tech armor from the 1st game in the background of a room in one of the Andor episodes. Disney called it an "easter egg". I call it shitting on the fans.

[@randyschwaggins]

How many times has the Emperor invited someone to kill Vader and replace him??? Id be pretty narked if I was DV!

[@Xo-3130]

A few times in Legends.

[@Krin06]

This was to be part of the Canonverse until Disney throw this awesome game into Legends

[@PatrickNiese-sn6fs]

The rule of two should be renamed the suggestion of two or three or so.

[@NickMartinproductions]

Starkiller is not a Sith

[@hakanbrakankrakan]

@@NickMartinproductions All dark side force users running around with red lightsabers that aren't full siths still pose the same problem the rule of two was created to prevent, which is evident with all the power struggle and backstabbing (which is what the OG comment was trying to get at with a joke)

[@Xo-3130]

Well, nothing in the Rule of Two says the Apprentice can't take one of his own before he takes the rule as Master.

[@rojaedavis8367]

​@@Xo-3130Actually no, the apprentice is not suppose to have an apprentice of their own. Not until they themselves become the master by killing their own master. It's why Starkiller's status as Vader's apprentice was kept secret from most of the galaxy. Course, Sith by nature are ruthless, deceptive, backstabbing fiends, so expecting them to follow any rules, let alone their own, especially when it's convenient for them not to, is naivete on anyone's part.

[@jessevargas2210]

Thrawn needs someone like starkiller if he’s gonna stand a chance his enemies are Luke Leia Ezra Sabine Ahsoka possibly Cal Kestis and the 3rd sister from obi wan and it would be amazing to see starkiller fight each of them

[@Peter_mikaelson]

Possibly cal kestis howww

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Meh Disney will ruin starkiller

[@twilimess]

We don't count the trash that was the Kenobi show

[@FirstLast-nd3lw]

@@twilimess there was a kenobi show? fuck movie sw. EU is the way

[@danthomas8431]

My favorite character hands down.

[@jehielfifield3990]

6:54 Vader standing there like 🕴️

[@hiiamsam4808]

A perfect lightsaber for me would be robotic hand covered by beskar, it would have smaller lightsaber on the end of the fingers and bigger one would form if you would connect them, a very stylish weapon for an assasin!

[@greenslime5655]

So lightsaber claws?

[@hiiamsam4808]

@@greenslime5655 Dude i absolutely forgot about this comment, but basically, yes. This idea came from when I was younger and rewatching SW and realising that lots characters have robo-arms and that it would be pretty cool and sneaky weapon

[@athens9740]

@@hiiamsam4808 I feel like that type of weapon would be banned the jedi would think its unfair and the sith would think its a cowardly weapon if your using it as a sneaky weapon yk what I mean?

[@Dr-puppenstein]

That would be pretty pointless and take away a majority of the maneuverability that a jedi would want

[@CursingYeti5352]

I love the music, does it have a name?

[@taztepa1130]

This brings back memories using the wii nun-chucks and actually feeling like your using the force 😂

[@chrisc0276]

i don't understand, he can pull a ship out of orbit, but he can't stop himself from falling off a cliff?

[@sammystocks1020]

That's a damn great point, and it applies all the way back to Darth Maul falling down the hole after being halved by Obi Wan, and Palpatine being tossed down a reactor shaft by Vader. The can toss things around effortlessly, with the force, but couldn't stop themselves from falling? Definitely a flaw in the writing.

[@calebduncan1697]

​@sammystocks206 my assumption is they used the force to make sure they fell😂😂😂

[@dannykay5536]

This would make such an epic film if Disney had balls they could win sio many fans back such great games the force series was

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Nah Disney will ruin him

[@AdamGołębiewski-v1s]

Poor guy... TFU really showed how evil was Vader.

[@damiandamiano3651]

vader was his dad, so dont talk bad bout him

[@AdamGołębiewski-v1s]

@@damiandamiano3651 this is Galen Marek, not Luke Skywalker. He REALLY killed his father and his mother too.

[@villiannewyork]

Starkiller is the Kratos of Star Wars

[@urban_phantom7750]

King Joprey and Lord Balish were Stark Killers...

[@lThellRockl]

its good an all but we need a full completion of his involvement in all areas and how he could be introduced into the legend as he is canon just now

[@Leland300]

Wasn’t the Skywalker family name Starkiller prior to the movies? Is this just a way to bring back the name.

[@damiandamiano3651]

starkiller is crazy, filled with rage , man have deep schizofrenia even his evil clones are messed up, the brutal life is one case but fact that he is madman and have all thsi jedi power and just want to have girl is other level

[@inkredibleholt]

This was my favorite Star Wars game I have ever played. I 100% it and I am super game ADD.

[@GXT_ROGUE]

Galen 🔛🔝

[@markwalker4485]

That is a Catch 22. Dambed if you do dambed if you don’t. Would it be legal for a Jedie to kill Hitler or Stalin or even Pol Pot? Is one single action against evil more evil than the death that happened? As the saying is. Who is worse? The assassin or the assassin to kill the assassin?

[@c.b.m.55]

Where can I see Vader fighting some wookiees?? That sounds terrifying!

[@jackgrove4621]

how many times has shak ti died?

[@DarciaSidTV]

Galen is literally the modern days Revan !!

[@andrasb339]

I liked the story until Vader got beaten. I don’t think the real chosen one should be beaten by anyone who is not Obi-Wan in Ep 3.

[@CJ-442]

Luke beat him. And Starkiller was conceptualized as a “Dark Mirror” of Luke with all the same potential as him. Literally almost everything Luke has, Starkiller has a darker/grittier version of. Millennium Falcon = Rogue Shadow C-3PO/R2-D2 = PROXY Obi-Wan/Yoda = Vader/Raul Kota Also, in the same way that Luke’s wardrobe gets darker in color throughout the OT, Starkiller’s gets lighter throughout the game. Just another “inverted mirror” comparison.

[@DivineGaming22]

I disagree I feel like if anyone would be able to beat vader it would be star killer if lukes story wasn’t set in stone

[@dstar9016]

Y'all do know Vader wasn't just beaten by obi wan and starkiller, u can research this

[@Drill74268]

We need remastered versiona of The Force Unleashed 1 & 2 games

[@Joe-kf5sm]

Wasn’t he in the book Crystal Star?

[@jackmorrison8269]

What book does this come from? The video games arent cannon.

[@tahuaroa]

such a great story

[@mrthiccc2370]

They should have a refurbished force unleashed game. That would be awesome

[@lrgtreeztgod3344]

Curious does this follow story by lucas? Not very educated on the lore

[@OldFarmerJoe1]

Remembers me a little bit the story between darth nihilus and visas marr, nihilus consumed billions of lifes on Katarr and left the planet with zero life, literally exterminated the Meraluka save one, visas marr who he took as his apprentice/assasin, they had a strong bond but due to the nature of darth nihilus, who was a monster, a black hole say a void with no end, visas had no choice but to betray him cutting her bond and weakening him so the exile could give the final blow. His mask is still out there somewhere in current timeline if im not wrong.

[@duece5542]

Who is that on the thumbnail

[@dannykay5536]

Him and anakin would of been an unstoppable force

[@Glaucus-999]

better story writing than all the disney films

[@duece5542]

Thumbnail?

[@Ghost011]

It truly is scary to think if Starkiller was made Canon...the guy beat Darth Vader & Darth Sidious together...then beat Darth Vader again...bruh

[@Xo-3130]

Galen is supposedly equal to Palpatine in terms of Force Potential. Unlike Vader and Palpatine though he isn't a cripple or suffering from Old Age.

[@thekickoffnation]

Starkiller is waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to OP

[@PrettyboyAshtun]

i love how overpowered starkiller was

[@michalswiatek8994]

This should be remastered for PS5 - both games AMAZING !!

[@Goodfood717]

Darth Bane would have walked through this guy.

[@nathanmoore2717]

Man why can't Disney just hire the writers from The PENGUIN show have them write a good script and make this story into a feature film!!! With a solid cast this would be a home Run for Disney and Lucas Film

[@wickdaline8668]

Just imagine Galen Marek as an Inquisitor.

[@luiscandelario5067]

Wouldn't work with the premise of the Galen being his secret apprentice... Vader needed him to be a secret weapon ...

[@DivineGaming22]

I mean he basically was the og inquisitor but much better at least in the beginning and bad endings

[@VioletMoon4155]

​@luiscandelario5067 Yes, they could still make it work. Sam Witwer himself said as much. He basically said that Starkiller could be "hiding in plain sight" as an Inquisitor to deflect suspicion from the Emperor and others. He is obviously more powerful than the others, so he wouldn't be assigned any major missions within the Inquisitorius, but he would perform secret missions from Vader on the side. If they wanted to, they could definitely make most of his backstory work with a few tweaks.

[@penny1545]

Just imagine this: Rey to Kathleen Kenedy: Oh, man! My future has been drastically being delayed (a reference that her movie has being officially scrapped from the very beginning.) What are we gonna to do now? At that moment both Galen Marek and Junno show up. Galen: Well, I know just the answer! Junno: Your job is completely done, my dear! It's your time to step down... Galen: And allow the fans to have of what they always wanted: a Star Wars Trilogy featuring both us, Kota, Vader, Palpatine e.t.c. And believe me, Rey, if the fans had a literal lightsaber to their throats and they had to choose between the Rise of Skywalker and the second game, they would had *definitely* prefer the latter. Junno: So! What do you have to say about that, kid? The choice is all yours!! Rey: Well... To be fair... This is actually not a bad plan... And considering that Adam Driver... The best part of the sequels... Is not coming back... I guess we could give it a shot... Galen and Junno smile. But at that moment Kathleen Force chocks Rey and she hits her with her lighting shouting her as "Traitor!" She then turns to both of them. Kathleen: *No!!!* We are *not* going along with this plan!!! After all... *THE FORCE IS FEMALE!!!!* Galen almost laughing: Allright, you female version of Sidious. Brace yourself! *Anakin!* Both Kathleen and Rey: *What?!* At that moment Anakin from the Clone Wars shows up and he murders both of them. Anakin to Rey: *That's for stealing my last name to make it yours, you bitch!!!* After completing his mission he turns back into... *Proxy!!* Galen: Proxy you did such an amazing job! Proxy: There was not a second that I didn't enjoy it! Also that was the perfect practise to get finally ready to kill you!

[@elijahwilliams3728]

Imagine Galen Marek as a jabroni

[@JesterOfLoreTV]

Wait how did we find out the real name of star killer? Did I miss something

[@VadersFortress2]

You are not wrong to find it confusing! I don’t think they actually referred to him by name in the games. There was some novelisations released alongside the games that revealed his name when he stopped referring to himself as starkiller :)

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

WE NEED A REMASTER/REMAKE!!!

[@darthmemewalker2807]

What was the ultimate fate of the starkiller clone?

[@jffroezze]

What game is this?

[@VadersFortress2]

the force unleashed!

[@johnysandoval488]

They should make this game again

[@darianhendrickson7665]

Love these games

[@ThaRealVadez]

Starkiller literally be the oppesite of vader

[@fobbitoperator3620]

He ain't sh!t, compared to "Star-Lord!"

[@Darkclaw00]

I think you mean, the REAL timeline of Star Wars.

[@bibliothecariousoccultorum]

Ofc the Stormtroopers didn't hit s*it in close range 😂

[@Blessedliving24]

Ahsoka: Anakin was such a good master. He was like my brother. How about you? Starkiller: …

[@Zushi_hedgehog]

I didnt know there were 2 endings to the first game, i guess its cuz i played the ps2 version or something

[@Emparatus]

Oh dang dark side galen is cool

[@leepatterson2051]

Loved it🇦🇪♥️

[@TonyMazzacane]

Is this canon?

[@danielkover7157]

The more I learn about Jedi, Sith, Nightsisters, and others who use the Force, the more I believe the Force users are a pawn of the Force or something tied to the Force. The Jedi directly follows its will, and the Sith follow their own ambitions but still can't get the power they crave without the Force. Both are slaves. If I'm not mistaken, Freya had a similar outlook on the Force. In all honesty, as neat as all the Force powers are, I think I'd rather be a farmer on Tanaab. None of this ambition and Force slavery, and none of the constant fighting. Just a simple life for me, just plowing dirt (or whateverStar Wars farmers do, and marrying my childhood sweetheart. Ah, but the galaxy is filled with ordinary assholes and Force-wielding assholes that wanna make my life miserable. To hell with all of them; they can have their Farce and choke on it.

[@drippyjimbo4362]

Hello

[@VadersFortress2]

Hello there

[@drippyjimbo4362]

@@VadersFortress2 general Kanobi I’ve been expecting you

[@OldNorth152]

Heyo

[@Bullets2YahHead]

I am so annoyed by the background music

[@sammyhain]

I would say disney should have made a trilogy off of this, but they would probably ruin it like they always do

[@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б]

It's Also Legends Canon If You Don't Know.

[@nathanhawee5373]

What I may be wrong I thought starkiller was a clone..

[@glitch3818]

He is in the sequel.

[@chewher4171]

He is canon over that Palpatine grand daughter Skywalker wanna be.

[@Dmy602]

According to the moment when Ventless saved Ashoka in Clone Wars , she disappear , fall in love with that Jedi who hunt Zero along with Kenobi , and turn agan to the Dark side . Not really clear what's this new mess in Bad Batch 3 , sawing Ventress with hair as she presented as apprentice. Again Disney made moronic change . Not the writers , those who gave orders to end up Bad Batch in a lamest way possible. Please no Kenobi sequel , nor Boba . Ashoka is okay , Mando will make a film , but Star Wars are already dead

[@alpha5664]

I think the so called clone of Starkiller was a lie made up by Darth Vader and is actually the original Galen Marek

[@willisjoe2010]

Starkiller was stronger then Vader

[@dannykay5536]

Who else fancied juno 😂😂

[@stoneface848]

There is a reason starkiller isnt cannon bros to powerful

[@kingaxolotl4085]

🤩👍

[@zanimus666]

I feel like the acolyte should have been about Starkiller or young Palpatine. Instead of being absolute trash.

[@YGONerd27]

#BringBackStarKiller 😂

[@P_hilly]

Starkiller was just a rip off of Kyle Durron. Anakin was the chosen one. He was to bring balance to the force and the one even palpatine feared. Yet writers always love to play the “let’s create someone who is even more overpowered than our overpowered character.” So they wrote in the book Star Wars Dark Apprentice about a force sensitive that had god like abilities in the force. Then they took that idea and shoved it into the force unleashed, AND THEN gave him the name Starkiller… the surname Lucas was using for Luke in his original scripts before changing it to Skywalker. This entire character is a bastardization of other concepts.

[@DeveraGod]

The whole rule of two with the sith is stupid

[@joemixon1704]

Make starkiller cannon

[@dazediss6629]

It’s so Disney it goes against everything. For a start; Vader wasn’t anywhere near Kashyyk after order 66. He was on Mustafar, then Coruscant immediately after losing his legs. His powers weren’t wasted trotting around star systems killing Jedi. That’s what the imperial army was for. Secondly; his first mission was to kill Shaak Ti…. Who was already dead. She was killed at the start of Episode 3 on the malevolence. Palpatine was still in office & Galactic Emperor, he still attended senate & still met with foreign dignitaries. Vader spent most of his time with Tarkin, at the emperor’s command & both were equally responsible for the construction of the Death Star. Vader probably wanted to hunt Yoda, and in turn Luke once he realised he existed. But he didn’t. He certainly didn’t go taking on secret apprentices and defying the rule of two within minutes of turning. The rule has never been broken and the only time it’s ever been suggested of being broken is after Disney got hold of the story and went mental; same goes for Traya, Sion & Nihilus….. or Revan, Bastilla Shan & Malak. Disney seem to think there’s a rule of three. I get that they want to create more characters & grow the saga; but you can’t do that by shitting all over fundamental rules and breaking age old lore. This is one of the main reasons that fans have become disillusioned with Star Wars. The concept of characters like Asohka Tano & Starkiller are absolutely fantastic; but the way Disney have just brute forced & shoehorned them into the lore is ridiculous & offensive to fans. You can’t have 6 movies depicting Darth Vader’s life from conception to death….. And then just be like “oh btw we forgot to mention he had a jedi apprentice for many years and she fought in the clone wars with him”….well no she didn’t because we’ve seen the fucking movie entitled Star Wars Episode II, and she wasn’t in it. The same goes for Starkiller, we’ve had episodes 1-6 & there’s no mention of Starkiller. Basically what’s happened is that Disney bought Star Wars because it made shit loads of money. They then thought all they need to do is replicate the existing story & repeat it; just change a few of the characters & planet names but have basically the same story; people will buy it. Then they released The Force Awakens; obviously it absolutely sucked but they were committed to two more movies as they were making a trilogy & the contracts were signed. Obviously the other two movies ended up being even worse because fans had already started to give up. Then Disney have gone back to the drawing board and said “ok, we can’t create new stuff because the fans aren’t going to swallow it, so we’ll create random cool characters and we’ll just rewrite the original story and force the new characters in somehow”…. -insert Ashoka & Starkiller- This is why Disney is losing money hand over fist. The actual concepts of Ashoka & Starkiller as characters are brilliant, but forcing them into existing lore is beyond stupid, arrogant & detrimental. It’s like they’ve put someone with a business degree and absolutely no knowledge of the product in charge of Star Wars and let them do whatever they want. It’s actually insane to think how badly they’ve fucked this franchise. If Disney just hired one really big Star Wars need to make all their new projects - it would have worked.

[@VadersFortress2]

u know starkiller was created pre-disney acquisition right? under the direction of george lucas too. they immediately made him non-canon

[@Ryn9116]

@@VadersFortress2bro destroyed this commenter XD

[@tranquilchaos6980]

Fr some people get to emotional and like to just yap nonsense 💀​@@Ryn9116

[@hunterkiller1440]

The over powered Gary Stu. The original Ma-Rey Sue.

[@vladtheimpalerofficial]

Wrong

[@kylewilliams5454]

He was only op in the game version. At least had training unlike someone else.

[@jaieregilmore971]

Completely wrong.

[@CJ-442]

Sort of. But at least him being OP makes sense in-universe. Dude was personally trained by Darth Vader for over a decade. Everything about his training was designed to push him past the limits of a normal Force user. He’s the literal definition of “What doesn’t kill you, only makes you stronger.”

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@CJ-442 Exactly.

[@jamesblinzler7421]

Puppets of the force… no matter how strong…

[@sr_ryoadm]

Starkiller is a glorified fanfic, but ok