THE BRUTAL TRUTH! Is the PICO 4 Ultra really that good!? My review

[@voodoodevr-en]

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[@redsta100]

I'm still very happy with PICO 4 256GB for PC. I used Meta 2 and it had huge problems, bad, blurry visual quality, heavy too - you fell like you are in an old submarine. Sold Meta 2 after 2 weeks of ownership. I use AMVR PICO 4 for face interface and its really comfy, 3 hour PCVR sessions no problem. Also you should mention it has sharpness slider for PCVR - its a game changer. Remember for PCVR you should have something like RTX 3090 for premium experience to max out settings, I run 4090 quality settings on my 3090 and its very nice. I run basic WIFI 6 router/modem provided by internet supplier, have no stutters or any issues. Also important to run games close to 90 fps, as per 90 refresh rate and experience is magical. Also there is enhanced quality mode for LINK cable - I will try soon, but WIFI quality is already good.

[@CanardCPCVR]

In-between, that's the P4 & P4U which became the blurry ones compared to the Quest 3.

[@redsta100]

@@CanardCPCVR Quest 3 for the price is way worse then basic PICO 4 for PCVR. Not sure what you are smoking. Even if you buy me a Q3 I will not use it, its garbage with tilted lenses for PC, far objects become a blurry mess with edge artifacts.

[@CanardCPCVR]

@@redsta100 Based on which facts? You being a fanboy? We speak about technical apparatus with measurable features, period. And Pico 4 lenses were measured repeatedly as blurry in comparison with Quest 3, over years. Pico had and opportunity to catch up with Meta and did not want to: argue with them. In the meantime, they still blurry. It's ok to be a hater; maybe Zuck stole your girlfriend...

[@redsta100]

@CanardCPCVR LoL. I use PC VR since VFX 1. It doesn't matter what you say. Sim players with PCVR prefer PICO 4 and I do, if meta 3 was better I would have used it. No I'm not a brand boy. Your comments are childish.

[@CanardCPCVR]

@@redsta100 They just measured image accuracy over P4 & Q3 since the release of the Q3. P4 is blurry, period. You and your pals may think whatever you want, but there are rants and there are facts. I played VR arcade games in 1995 3 times: in your twisted logic, that should get me the point anyway.

[@KoRNeRd]

I use the pico 4 without the lens rings and without a facial interface, and without the plastic cover holding the facial interface and proximity sensor. I use a pair of cut down socks (just some of the top part) for light leackage, my nose is sitting between the lenses and eybrows litterally on the lenses. I use only the top strap from ALVR in a custom configuration, I have removed the back cushion. This made the headsaid significantly lighter and less hot/stuffy. My setup allows me to litterally see f the square edges of the lcd screen, thus more of the image is in the lens sweetspot and I get the maximum possible FOV.

[@KiLDELTA]

I think you can reuse the old Pico 4 interface or any accessories as it is interchangeable because this is basically the same except the newer internals

[@skarvaekobutik493]

There are excellent pico 4 interfaces which will fit this, makes it ultra comfortable :)

[@KodaiRyu]

Great thing in Pico 4 Ultra is that you can put Pico 4's facial interface if you happen to have one :D EDIT. I have Bobovr strap in my Pico 4 and it's made specifically for Pico 4 and it's called Bobovr P4, you can remove back part with tool that you get with Bobovr P4 and you snap in Bobovr's back part to it, they are working on to make one for Pico 4 Ultra too (old one don't snap in to ultra)

[@gregan78]

Meta will have to follow suit with those trackers if they have any sense. Congrats to Pico for their innovation and implementation on that. Great review, thanks.

[@mrrm1st]

That was a great review - by far the best I have seen for pico 4 Ultra. I thought you were a bit harsh on the microphone which really sounded excellent to me 😊

[@TaskSwitcherify]

Man, it feels like I walked into a VR museum with that very respectful collection of headsets behind you 🙂

[@thatstokedgamer]

How is the binocular overlap compared to the original?

[@sdd25]

Best face mask for pico 4 is AMVR Face Cover N4FC1 -- Totally better experience than the original... I recommend it ( but with my big nose I had to make some small modifications ;P )

[@matthieucoquelin3468]

How is the passthrough compard to the quest 3? What about noise and deformation effet (this not perceptible in your test to my mind...) Cas you also read a screen not shared(or is there too mutch brightness from the screen?)

[@tx-zeh4108]

Do you get any eye-problems when using vr moderate for a long time?

[@sourcecaster]

The facial interface is awful on Pico 4. I'm using the headset without it, attached directly to a BoboVR headstrap (required some minor manual modification).

[@solsang]

You can put in lithium AA batteries in the controllers to save 16 grammes weight (30g instead of 46g) and they will last 3 times longer :)

[@iareplaying]

I'm surprised to hear about the cons because every comment on reddit pretty much says comfort and FOV are a huge plus on P4U. I'm browsing through reviews, trying to decide whether to buy quest 3 or p4u and I remain undecided. I'm upgrading for psvr1 so anything is a huge upgrade. Q3 with new strap + battery might cost me 100$+ more than p4u but the pico store worries me. I plan to play both pcvr and standlone (70% more steam vr).

[@lukiv3]

the answer is simple. You want it more as standalone? Q3. Huge library. You want it to mostly connect to PC? P4U because of better comfort. Simple as that.

[@iareplaying]

@@lukiv3 sounds simple but my only experience with vr is from psvr and psvr is terrible. I don't know what I want tbh, both probably but I ordered p4u yesterday and bought a few vr games on steam for black friday so the decision has been made! Thx for response.

[@gabrielpedro4075]

@@iareplaying did you regret your choice? i'm having the same doubt, because pico 4 ultra is on sale with the same price as mq3, my only concern is about it's 90hz screen, do you think it's okay?

[@iareplaying]

@@gabrielpedro4075 I have pico 4 ultra for a week now and it is a huge improvement over psvr 1 headset (of course it would be). The store is lacking, it's noticeable so I'm reserved from buying any games from pico store. I did buy games on steam and mostly play steam vr. Headset is good, the picture isn't crystal clear like it is on monitor. It was expected but still... it's good enough that I don't experience motion sickness. High performance games do drain battery quickly. Blade and sorcery for example, I could drain the battery within an hour. Since the p4u and mq3 are somewhat the same, if you don't mind getting strap+battery then I'd say go for mq3. If you plan to stick to pcvr gaming then either is fine. I don't regret getting pico 4, mq3 would cost me at least 100 euro more.

[@АлексейЛогинов-ж1ц]

I switched to pico 4 ultra after index and it's much more comfortable

[@tx-zeh4108]

Very nice and informative! And I just love the «ja»😂

[@domwoods3485]

Do you personally prefer the quest 3 or Pico 4 ultra?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Quest 3

[@IHM451]

Which headset feels better to wear?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Its very individual, for me Quest 3 with Elite Strap

[@BobInGreek]

@@voodoodevr-en too heavy

[@Gramsci89]

what facial interface did you use when you tested the original Pico 4? do the third party ones from the orignal fit the Pico 4 Ultra?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Original

[@starbuck2050]

Thanks Thomas - nice review, I have the Pico 4 with prescripton lenses; are the Pico 4 aftermarket lenses compatable with the Ultra ?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Pretty sure, yes

[@BrazilianSoldier100]

About the removable parts, you can also remove the top strap (i mean, you literally removed it on the video, lmao). It is the exact same as the normal pico 4. I'm planning on upgrading from pico 4 to either P4 Pro or Q3. I like how the controllers are way bigger and heavier than quest 3. Since i mainly play shooters, heavier controller makes it better. I hated how quest 3 controllers were so damn small. It can hardly fit inside my hands. From this video, i got extremely dissapointed by the hand tracking. Quest has it perfected even on quest 2. The pico one is janky and had some high latency. On the normal pico 4 is literally unusable. Considering they didnt improved that much since pico 4, i would say it wont get better on the long run either. Because of this, the extra trackers wont make much sense. The AR dont seem that great either. Hands clipping inside the scenery/game is a huge let down. Image of the camera seems better than q3 tho. As a Pico 4 owner, i dont see a poin in upgrading to Pico 4 ultra. I could see a point upgrading to quest 3 for the AR capabilities, but i really hate those tiny controllers...

[@n9ne]

they need to start putting cameras inside the strap to track behind you

[@voodoodevr-en]

Good idea...

[@superbueno1769]

More than one hour very good review thanks, maybe the control are heavy but we must think that inside are two battery 🔋 too , I living in Sweden how can I preorden??? Thanks!!!!

[@Smithy225]

I bought the Pico 4 ultra but I couldn't get away with the very small sweet spot. Returned it

[@Xunnu2]

does fbt in vrchat work with steam vr?

[@Rockysbeats]

can you plug it into a wall for continuous use?

[@voodoodevr-en]

yes

[@kennethfraser3961]

Is it worth upgrading from the pico 4 ? I look for clarity and resolution is it better on the ultra ? Is there much difference ? If not I'm going to stick with my pico 4

[@freemanol]

Depends on what you do. If you want body tracking for VRChat or fitness games, the trackers looks really cool. If you mainly play FPS games like contractors or pavlov, maybe not

[@kennethfraser3961]

@@freemanol occasional games but mostly for watching movies,if it’s not clearer better picture quality then I won’t bother

[@freemanol]

@@kennethfraser3961 in that case it's probably not worth upgrading, unless you care about the passthrough quality if you're watching in MR instead of a black background

[@dovic2293]

Watching this on Meta quest 3

[@MrProGGEz]

same I wish I could buy the pico 4 ultra I realy loved the motion trackers

[@zetsaito9643]

You didnt show us how you activate hand tracking.

[@voodoodevr-en]

Oh that is very easy, just open menu and there it is.

[@Mauroplcr]

Hum.. im wondering if watching your own movie created with your Insta360 camera are good enough? The quality for a 4k 360 video watched on the quest 3 was very bad . What about the Pico 4 ultra ? I returned the quest 3 for that

[@marconwps]

WIFI7 speed reached?

[@viktorianas]

Face gasket is 15$ fix.

[@pumpkineater23]

They missed a trick by not having a DP link.

[@SETHalpine]

DP1.4...is dead for VR... DP2.1 are only available on AMD graphic card ...and DP2.1 vidéo controller are expensive and rare ( isn't it Pimax!?) only Brand as Samsung Displays has such controller (and they'll keep it for their own VR device...) Pico should use USB-C is better, you can have rally good video streaming ( but limited if you use a poor chipset as XR2...) or "direct" video because, USB-C support display port Virtual mode...and has a good bandwidth in 3.2/4 version...( Forget USB 3.0 and prefer 3.2) But they don't use it because they want to sell apps...and autonomous game ( with the bad streaming decoding capacity of XR2...) and DP... Always means SteamVr....so no money for them. So stop to dream about DP....Added to this, people want wireless device... Even Pimax will use massive compression on their next Super headset...cause they're unable to buy a DP2.1 controller

[@pumpkineater23]

@@SETHalpine Bigscreen Beyond and Crystal Light are some of the best DP link headsets. (and the best headsets in general). PICO Neo3 Link: This 2-in-1 headset can be used for standalone or PC VR and comes with a DisplayPort cable. It can connect to a PC with a standard DP 1.4 or higher port, or a MiniDP 1.4 or higher port on a notebook. Varjo VR-2 Pro and VR-2: These headsets come with either DisplayPort or Mini DisplayPort cables, depending on the laptop. DPVR E4: Another gaming PC VR headset. My point being, that this is the direction they should've gone - different options. The superior DP for tethered PCVR is much better for power hungry simulators. USB-C is for those that don't have it or those that don't understand why DP is better, and wireless for room-scale VR.

[@diegoperez3278]

Are you answering everybody ask for a dp connection with the same brick?

[@PlebiasFate1609]

Ok i asked pick themselves earlier and they said the pico 4 ultra is competing against primarily the apple vision pro and not the meta quest 3 so ummm yea.... I guess the price is pretty good then if we are comparing it to the apple vision pro right? 😮

[@KoRNeRd]

They can't even compete with the standard pico 4 at this price!!!

[@PlebiasFate1609]

@@KoRNeRd true i guess......

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

Hello, I have the Pico4 Ultra, and I love it especially for PCVR, and on MFS2024 I get a great wifi 6 performance, 50fps in High with 50ms latency. But I hesitate to take a Wi-Fi 7 Router, but unfortunately I can't find any information on the real performances and comparisons between Wi-Fi 6 5G and Wi-Fi 7 6G for example, does anyone have this information? what can be the gains of Wi-Fi 7 in real life. I don't want theories, but real figures. Thanks to everyone who can contribute.

[@somemore9784]

i Doubt it makes any difference at all. Wi-Fi 7 is overkill for it

[@Hacker4748]

What is the IPD of a squirrel? 🤔

[@voodoodevr-en]

🤣🤣🤣 5

[@CanardCPCVR]

I wonder why you did not compare image quality with what we have on the Q3 now. Q3 is the new mainstream and all the problems that were reported about Pico pancakes since P4 were not fixed at all: same lenses, same problems. Making the Q3 much much clearer in terms of quality as reported and measured in many other videos.

[@thenonexistinghero]

I don't understand why there wasn't a direct comparison either. Also to the original Pico 4 to show the difference in quality. And supposedly the new Pico 4 Ultra can get like 20-25% brighter than the original. I also saw 1 guy say the black level is better compared to the regular Pico 4. Those are things I would've liked to see.

[@abhayrao4256]

Can yall give game recommendation (im into fighting, swords, guns and car kinda games

[@BrazilianSoldier100]

For fighting and swords: Blade & Sorcery (guns too if using mods on pc) For guns: Contractors, Pavlov (PC, also has multicrew tanks on some maps) Cars? Goog question, i dont know any vr specific games with a focus on cars. I know games with planes, like simple planes VR and VTOL VR (PC)

[@renstillmann]

​​@@BrazilianSoldier100For rally games you could look at Dirt Rally 2.0, great in VR. Or RBR for best simulator. EA WRC seems not so good for VR right now but you can try. For road racing look at iRacing for best sim experience and clean/fair races once you become better. Other games are Asseto Corsa Competitione and Asseto Corsa and check Automobilista 2. But that's my experience/knowledge.

[@davidnealy6459]

Looks like good hardware but I just cannot support a company tied to the CCP. If that ever changes, I will try it out.

[@WikiPeoples]

Doesn't support Steam Link? I find that kinda suss.

[@thatstokedgamer]

Steam has to put it on there, and Pico is nowhere near popular enough for Steam to notice their existence.

[@Aitch26]

KZbin will probably delete this comment as always, but the pico 4 ultra is really good, just not at the current price point considering the competition. I really hope china keeps investing and subsidizing vr. I don't wana see them stop and fall behind in the tech. I'm personally a big fan of china over brutal western imperialism that relies so much on war for their economies, control and power. China is a trade/manufacturing economy and has much better, mutually beneficial foreign policies I really want multipolarity to succeed, because the world can not continue with the current hypocritical, double standard, unipolar system where there's rules for thee but not for me which makes international laws and systems completely irrelevant and useless, which is really dangerous

[@thenonexistinghero]

I think Pico 4 Ultra is basically the swan song of the company for VR. They were making an excellent Pico 5 with 3 SKU's, but they were cancelled. The P4U basically just seems to take a few things from the P5 that they were working on and slapped them into a P4 unit because they had too many spart parts lying around they couldn't get rid of (since the P4 greatly undersold what they were expecting it to sell). Basically, it's quickly put together to still get some money back from an earlier bad investment. I don't see the P4U doing all that well either. Meaning that this is basically the end of their foray into VR. For sure other Chinese companies will make a new headset, but I don't see this company making another one any day soon. As much as I love my P4, I think the upgrade is far too small for me to consider for a price that's just too big. I paid like €450 for my P4 at launch. Paying €600 for a slightly upgraded version released over 2 years later? Yeah, not gonna happen. And I would've been more than happy to pay the €1000 or so for the top-end P5 they had planned with 4K resolution per eye and it also had a displayport. I prolly wouldn't have used DP much, just mostly as comparison to see how close the wireless streaming quality is or something.

[@AM-uy1ez]

i totally agree with your comment! so much hate towards asia from the western side (not all). Mostly by the american gov and some european leadership. Also the zionist racist state of israel.

[@juu226]

I can see only one downside, no display port. They could be best cheap PCVR option with their headsets having so decent build quality, better than stripped down Quests but they can't compete with Meta on software in standalone.

[@freemanol]

Ah here we go the "no OLED/DP I'm not buying" crowd

[@juu226]

@@freemanol Yes, no DP no buy for me, what is wrong with that? I prefer stable clean connection without any wi-fi streaming which always causes some issues with quality and compatibility in some games plus using extra gpu power to compress video even using USB cable connecion. I have Pico 3 Neo 3 Link and preffer DP over Wi-Fi depite it has both options avaliable.

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

@@freemanol well, actually for me the DP lack is deal breaker, same as OLED display. OLED displays have terrible colours and bad dynamic contrast, I dont care about deep black at all.

[@ScreentubeR]

The main advantage is weight distribution here in comparison to quest 3. The rest is meh. It would be a killer if it had higher resolution and better optics, otherwise this headset is for those who can't buy quest 3 for some reason, like sanctions for example, or general unavailability in the country.

[@SETHalpine]

Too pricey sadly....I'm waiting for their "swan project"

[@markus301]

Wait doesnt the pico 4 ultra have bigger resolution?

[@sdfghgtrew]

Ja

[@kevinkev1530]

👍🏾

[@АлексейЛогинов-ж1ц]

19:54

[@АлексейЛогинов-ж1ц]

Omg 👁️👄👁️

[@deluge6479]

Wtf 😮. Racism

[@karurosj5865]

It seems to be true, it doesn't fit well because it's designed for a different facial morphology than the Caucasian one. By the way, it seems that there is a stink of woke in some comments here. Accept that there is diversity, diversity is good, chimpanzees.

[@marklola12]

Just get meta quest 3 and be done. But even meta quest 3 has issues with 3rd party companies making facial interface I was the one who actually first broke news that VR COVER is not making any facial interfaces for the meta quest 3 .....at all

[@PlebiasFate1609]

excellent software, decent okayish hardware and borderine unsuable facial interface and design

[@IHM451]

Pico 4 ultra is infinitely better in terms of weight distribution. The Meta Q3 sucks to wear.

[@PlebiasFate1609]

its good but the price ehhhh i dont think its worth, i can find the meta quest 3 for cheaper and even cheaper a second hand one 😂 i wish they can put it on sale in the future tho

[@KoRNeRd]

They would need to lower it to 400 euro to be competitive

[@JanPan-bn5zl]

again 72/90hz? no ty.

[@thatstokedgamer]

Ah yes. Because we ALL have super computers to run 120hz.

[@renstillmann]

What headsets you got then? And what hz?

[@oooooo1535]

@@renstillmann😂

[@Tsancy]

Thx for the review. Q3 is waaay better all day long. Unremovable headstrap and battery? No Pro-Style? Pff....

[@SETHalpine]

You've to pay for additional headstrap on Meta....Because the regular one is bad...

[@Tsancy]

@@SETHalpine yeah, true, but at least there is an OPTION on Meta side.

[@neto1495]

Nobody cares!!!!

[@voodoodevr-en]

about your comment? Yes that's correct!

[@thatstokedgamer]

I care

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

Man, you have to work on your speech, ja? It is really getting annoying in English hearing your German "Ja" at the end of nearly every sentence, ja? I even could not bare to watch this video to the end, ja?

[@DrnkSir]

Nobody forced you to watch the video, Ja

[@voodoodevr-en]

I don't care, ja

[@voodoodevr-en]

I didn't care, ja

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

@@DrnkSir thats why I didnt watch it to the end, ja?

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

@@voodoodevr-en very humble you are, ja...