The Buddha made up the word Samadhi- Buddhist Meditation

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@khamano
@khamano 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bhante, for all your talks 🙏🙏🙏
@Yogirrajtayde9
@Yogirrajtayde9 6 ай бұрын
❤Thank you bhante❤sadhu sadhu Sadhu❤
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
I have been to India, I have studied Asian literature and I have done a fair amount of translation myself. OK, so there is a book in the Vedas that states Aryans had caramel skin gold hair green eyes. There is a book in the suttas that states the Buddha had fair skin, blue eyes, but black hair, and he defined himself as an Aryan. However, I have not seen Native people in India with fair skinned, light colored hair and eyes.
@kingitkingit940
@kingitkingit940 2 жыл бұрын
person who goes with only truth with his body mind speech and follows the rule of nature were meant to be ARYAN not with the birth in regions or continent’s
@ShakuShingan
@ShakuShingan 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing. Such a great teacher, he speaks from experience not commentaries!
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 12 жыл бұрын
If you read the vedas, which pre-date the suttas, you will find the term 'samadhi.' The term 'samadhi' is also Sanskrit, as are many terms in the Pali canon. Every Sanskrit in the Pali canon, such as vipassana, has to be a term the Buddha did not coin, because he spoke Maggadi (Pali), not Sanskrit, or a Sanskrit-based dialect. Nonetheless, it is clear that Buddhism had an influence upon later Hindu literature, but the Yoga Sutras could pre-date the suttas.
@Emptybellmindframe
@Emptybellmindframe 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bhante, thank you begintosee. May you be well.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
Does Vim have evidence to support his belief that Hindu forms of meditation interpreted Samadhi as One-Pointed absorption; whereas the Buddha defined it differently? And, if he believes the Buddha defined it differently, then how? If you believe the Buddha defined Jhana as more a level of calm, or being collected, then do you have canonical support for this interpretation? If you believe In the Suttas there are 8 Jhanas, then do you have canonical support for this belief?
@mcdonaldchump5804
@mcdonaldchump5804 6 жыл бұрын
This talk is a true mind - opener
@puppybunny1
@puppybunny1 15 жыл бұрын
Thank you to such a wonderful teacher. I have been looking for this level of real world experience instead of theory. Metta to you...
@SarahaJi
@SarahaJi 15 жыл бұрын
Sri Ramana describes clearly the difference between kevala samadhi and sahaja samadhi in talk 187 from Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi:
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
Except, begintosee, I have already shown that MN 111 does not use the term arupa jhana. If you examine the Pali form of that sutta you will find instead it uses the suffix ayatana for the levels of Samadhi that are above the four jhanas. Those terms are: Àkàsànañcàyatanaü, Vinnananaacayatana, Akincannayatana, and Nevasannanasannnayatana, not arupa jhana.
@Eyesoform
@Eyesoform 12 жыл бұрын
Vimalaramsi speaks of letting go of the belief of the personal self... and a lot of people say there is "no self".... then is "no self" the self? i sense that even while i embody formless existence mixed with non-existence, i still have my essence, and isn't my essence an indicator of my personal self... i can see that i HAVE my essence, but AM i my essence? if my core is nothingness/peace/love, am i not one with and existent as my outer layers such as my essence/personality and even my body?
@supersuper3145
@supersuper3145 3 жыл бұрын
It exists in indian culture before buddha... And buddha himself have experienced all the eight types of samadhis before his realisation but he was not satisfied..
@davidjohnson8218
@davidjohnson8218 3 жыл бұрын
You are right he experienced all of the 8 types of concentration but they were the yogic concentration which did NOT lead to Nibbana but only very fixed absorbed states. He said so in Sutta 36 mahasaccaka sutta. After attaining 8th jhana he left disappointed but after 6 years of trying ascetism he rememberd a time when he was young and his mind came to rest naturally with a relaxing type of step and he attained for the first time the Tranquil Aware Jhana state which has the same characteristics but is open and aware and DOES lead to Nibbana and the end of craving (tanha) This is little know today and only Bhante Vimalaramsi has stumbled on this special 2nd type of Jhana state. The suttas say you attain awakening going through the Jhanas but it is this special aware jhana and nOT the absorption jhana that is taught everywhere-it seems.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
How about 'ecstasy?' This is the term the Christian mystics used to describe similar states to what are described in the suttas.
@seriouspedo694
@seriouspedo694 4 жыл бұрын
I know this man knows a lot more than me but I think he never heard of sage patanjali he died way before Buddha was born and his scriptures talked about samadhi ...he used the word samadhi way before Buddha did it is an Indian sankrit word...one of the most ancient ones..in his book patanjali yoga sutra he talks about different kinds of samadhi and techniques to attain it
@davidjohnson8218
@davidjohnson8218 4 жыл бұрын
Samadhi is Pali so not sure where you get that. I am pretty sure Patanjali was talking about absorption concentration. And that is what the Buddha learned from the Hindu Meditation Masters and then rejected. Whatever word he used I am quite sure he was talking about things like nirvikalpa 'samadhi' or cosmic consciousness. These are all absorption states and not what the Buddha found. It is suggested that Yoga people adopted the PALI word Samadhi to apply to the states that the patanjali talked about.
@seriouspedo694
@seriouspedo694 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidjohnson8218 then I'm afraid you have to study patanjali's yogasutra and Sanskrit as well...and I have to study Pali and Buddha as well ....as far as my knowledge goes which doesn't go very far I'm not that educated...Buddha found the sanatana dharma and it's culture and the ways to get unified with the cosmos very complex and hard for people to understand ...he is the one who understood the whole and made the complex ways simpler for people like us can get it ....he didn't rejected it he tried everything and taught us in simple way ... easier way so that we don't have to suffer like him. In order to do such he made his new unique blissful way ...
@markbrad123
@markbrad123 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Agree.
@JudoMateo
@JudoMateo 12 жыл бұрын
The term Samadhi does not appear in the vedas nor even in the first ten upanishads the term Samadhi only shows up in the later upanishads and yoga literature and the views put forward in these texts were not in line with the traditional vedic views but they are much closer to the teachings of the Enlightened One.
@donkasunjayanetti4994
@donkasunjayanetti4994 4 жыл бұрын
Master Piece. Buddhism in nutshell in this 10 minute video.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
Hello Begintosee, this is not how the suttas describe jhana. The suttas describe it below:
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
OK, say then, the Buddha did not invent or coin the term samadhi. Now, if Sanskrit had this term before him, but he felt it had to be redefined, then why do you think he would use the term? It seems to me that if he did not agree with its definition, then he would not have used to it to express himself in a language that did not have the term, as you claim.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 12 жыл бұрын
Actually, the term 'Aryan' in the Indic religions refers to the Aryan people, who originate from Iran, which means 'Aryan'. Thus the idea of the Aryan in the Indic literature refers to a people who invaded the Indian sub-continent and established the cast system placing themselves at the top as Brahman, and Shatria, etc. Siddhartha Gautama was a Shatria, but he established that Aryan meant nobility in the sense of living a noble life, and therefore anyone who lived a noble life was Aryan/Brahm
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
The Veda's may outdate Iran but they are not the oldest written documents in the world. However, they are old, and orally they may be the oldest literature in the world, but not necessarily. Yes, the nation of Iran is recent; however, the term 'Iran' is Farse for Aryan. If you study Farse you will find many connections to Sanskrit. You will also find people with fair skinned, light colored hair and eyes in Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan.
@QuinnyKR
@QuinnyKR 7 жыл бұрын
The correct word is "RIGHT AWARENESS" Keep aware of minds activities.
@JudoMateo
@JudoMateo 12 жыл бұрын
Actually there is lots of evidence that the term samadhi is of Buddhist origin such as the fact that the earliest sanskrit works that have the term came after the advent of Buddhism and also are clearly influenced by Buddhist theory examples are the yoga sutra, maitrayana sutra, and many of the writings of sankhara.
@hearts0ngs
@hearts0ngs 13 жыл бұрын
"...one love...one heart...let's get secluded and feel alright!"
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
I will agree that the Aryan people may very well have originated in north India and Pakistan, but most probably not central Asia including Tibet and Mongolia. It is more likely the region of south-western Asia defined today by Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
@Kaveenga
@Kaveenga 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Bhante Vimalaramsi, you use the word 'Harmonious' for the Pali word 'Sammaa', so does Madawela Punnaji Thero in his book 'Ascending the Super-normal Eight-fold Way'. I like this translation. It makes sense and gives a more non judgmental interpretation instead of 'right'. My question is whether you and Ven. Punnaji have done any research/study together as you both use the word 'Harmonious'?
@DhammasukhaOrg
@DhammasukhaOrg 7 жыл бұрын
Replying for BV (David) Yes they have discussed the idea and Bhante V likes Bhante Punnaji's semantics for the 8 fold path and now uses them instead of "Right this or that"
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
The intellectual Europeans under the influence of the Theosophical Society certainly had a warped interpretation of the term 'Aryan'; however, I do not have that. I am just going from a study of the suttas and the Vedas. It is there that the term 'Aryan' is used to define a people with certain physical characteristics. I am not assuming that they are Europeans who invaded Asian in the great past. Who knows, perhaps it is the other way around.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 12 жыл бұрын
There is no reason to cultivate no-self, because the 4 jhanas are relative degrees of egoless states. You are correct, regardless of how deep in meditation one goes, there is always a sense of self-awareness. This is not ego. It is closest to what is called 'spirit' in Christian literature. Thus, this sense of awareness is not a mental factor, so it not one of the 5 aggregates. One has to realize that there are many translation errors in Buddhist literature.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
The term Samadhi is Sanskrit, not Pali, and was in use in earlier Hindu literature, such as the Vedas, for most probably 1500 years before the Buddha arrived on the scene. So, the Buddha did not coin or invent the term samadhi.
@SergeantFunDay
@SergeantFunDay 11 жыл бұрын
Buddy, those physical characteristics are personalities of being "noble", which is what the term "Aryan" is. Aryan is a Sanskrit term meaning a "noble" person. Watch /watch?v=iyN0zs_tBRY and then let me know. "An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct" (Amarakosha, 450AD).
@davidknight7933
@davidknight7933 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 12 жыл бұрын
Practice leads to fruitful attainment (Phala). So, attain (phala).
@SarahaJi
@SarahaJi 15 жыл бұрын
"Whoever - monk or nun - declares the attainment of arahantship in my presence, they all do it by means of one or another of these four paths." AN 4.170 PTS: A ii 156 Yuganaddha Sutta: In Tandem
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
It seems mettabhavana1 that you and Vim do not scrutinize your interpretation of dhamma closely. I believe you two would be served better by spending some time with a dictionary and reading some of the Christian mystics, like Teresa of Avila and John of the Cross.
@zatoichiable
@zatoichiable 14 жыл бұрын
A wonderful man. . Salam,
@SarahaJi
@SarahaJi 15 жыл бұрын
Hi begintosee, Sahaji samadhi looks like Pali nibbana and kevala samadhi looks like 8 perception attainments by Sri Ramana ............ like a river discharged into the ocean and its identity lost;-Sahaji You would have to read the whole page... What is Liberation According to the Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi?
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 12 жыл бұрын
Nonetheless, there is no reason a Magadhi (Pali) speaker would coin any Sanskrit term. Since the Buddha was from Magadha, and he taught in the common language of the people, then he would have taught in Magadhi (Pali). Any Sanskrit terms he used would have been in common use, and he certainly would not have coined a Sanskrit term. Sanskrit is the liturgical language of the Aryan people. The Buddha defined himself as an Aryan, and his way was the Aryan 8-fold Path.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
It sounds like begintosee, you and Vim need to not only spend some time with an English dictionary, but also spend some time with the original Pali of the suttas, because the term arupa-jhana appears nowhere in the suttas. Also, the experience of ecstasy is not at all craving or an uncontrollable state. So, maybe you two could spend some time reading the Christian mystics, such as Teresa of Avila and John of the Cross as well.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 3 жыл бұрын
@@joetorres8266 In the Pali canon the term 'arupa jhana' is not used. Instead the term 'ayatana' is in the same context.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 3 жыл бұрын
@@joetorres8266 I am sorry if my effort to help you understand the dhamma has caused you to suffer. Do keep following the Noble Eightfold Path and surely you will work beyond your need to strike back at someone who has a superior understanding of the dhamma.
@108shadow108
@108shadow108 8 жыл бұрын
Firstly Samadhi is not a Pali word its Sanskrit, its first usage was in Maitri Upanishad, which pre dates Siddharta. you need to have experienced samadhi to know what it is and how to identify and understand this deep phenomena. Seems a nice Monk but he does not know very much about what he is trying to represent.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
This sounds like you have come to this discussion with your own precious belief systems are a belief that I have bought into old commonly held European beliefs, which is not true; however, I do accept the out-of-Africa hypothesis for the evolution of hominids; however, evolution continues. The physical characteristics for the Aryan are described in the Suttas, and the Vedas, it is discussed there as a race, or a people with common physical characteristics, so I believe we should take it as such
@sumblock
@sumblock 11 жыл бұрын
learn before teaching.. see before observing
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
I have studied before I taught. I practiced meditation daily for forty years, and I have 3 degrees. It sounds like you need to grow up.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
Good to know that there are still some apparent Aryans in India, but interpreting the movement of Aryans from the Himalayas sounds like you are pushing the evidence, because the evidence suggests ground zero for the Aryans is in the center of their distribution, which is Pakistan Afghanistan and Iran.
@jitsem4273
@jitsem4273 8 жыл бұрын
mr. shadow , sanskrit word doesn't guarantee that word is older..most of the Upanishads are not older than 2000 to 1000yr old....
@amannoobs
@amannoobs 7 жыл бұрын
Jit Sem the rigveda was composed before gautama was born
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
Collectedness is not English. Maybe you and Vim should spend some time with a dictionary
@sumblock
@sumblock 11 жыл бұрын
you're not understanding you are talking about one race the Aryan.... this is a western notion, Eastern philosophy has stated in both vedic and chineese records that there was one race on this planet the Aryan race which than spilt up....... im talking about 16,000bc-20,000 bc prior. you're talking about a Word, a Sanskrit word, which has been misinterpreted and defined as something it is not. and just because one says "evidence shows", in a statement mans nothing, im talking about record
@SergeantFunDay
@SergeantFunDay 12 жыл бұрын
where do you get this information from? Oh I guess the Iranian... I mean the 'Persian' told you they were the Aryans. Or maybe you got this from Max Muller. Please do not introduce race with this word. The word was misused by historians, who brought genocide to many people. Hence Jews wouldn't have to go through such hardship if it wasn't this word 'Aryan'.
@sumblock
@sumblock 11 жыл бұрын
the reason I and some other historians believe that there once was a society in that region is because the Chinese records and hindu records, record of a war during that area between Russia and mongolia.. now there are parts of that area that are nuclear reactive... giving support the War... that seerated our 1 Aryan race into 5. there were 3 mummies found in china that genetically are Asian" indian" and caucasion.... this is all prior 16,00o bc
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
Actually the Vedas tell us that the Aryans invaded India from the north, which could be the Indus River Valley that Alexander the Great took to invade India 24 centuries ago. The pillars of Darius, and other early sources, are inscribed with the term 'Aryan,' thus there is better evidence that the Aryans came from the region of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan and moved south east through India bringing with them their religion and philosophy.
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 15 жыл бұрын
Nounification is not English. Do spend some time with an English dictionary.
@sumblock
@sumblock 11 жыл бұрын
this is not true, you should do your research from the country, that the information comes from. that's a western idea that mesopetamia invaded india, but the indus valley culture dates farther back. the word Aryan in the siddha tradition, and in Sanskrit, is a term that defines our current race the 5th race,research and that is the true definition, also the history of the Aryans originates in north india, Pakistan, Tibet, Mongolia, and the barren land between Russia and china. df-Human race
@Jhananda
@Jhananda 11 жыл бұрын
Interesting information, there are several places around the globe where evidence of early nuclear activity took place, including Asia, Africa, and the Americas, which suggests that a technologically advanced period existed perhaps as far back as the last Ice Age. Well, there are finds of human remains all around the world that are outside of the expected regional genotype, such as an Ainu in Washington State, USA, dates back to 9000 ya. It just proves humans have been getting around.
@sielullinen8734
@sielullinen8734 5 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect.
@mpatel1024
@mpatel1024 2 жыл бұрын
Buddy you just made up the whole concept of this video. Stop talking without knowledge of any Hindu texts. Talking of the Buddha with out Vedanta is like talking of the pot but not the water. Stop the steal of my culture. Approach it with humility. You don’t have enough knowledge to be holding a Katha, and teaching others. Also there’s no eight fold path. It’s called Astanyog. And it’s literally one if the hardest thing to master not some simple task you make out to seem.
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