The Budget Bike War: A Drastic Turn You Won't Believe!

[@bremingtonMTB]

I love that you are doing budget bikes now too Matty. Keep it up and don't let the gatekeeper haters win. There is a WHOLE community of budget mountain bikers who are sick of their crap, and we are out there having fun.

[@eric3007]

A whole community of beginners, you mean. No experienced, serious rider is riding Walmart budget bikes on any serious terrain.

[@bremingtonMTB]

@@eric3007you're an example of what I'm talking about. Nobody is talking about or suggesting experts should be bombing down double black diamonds on trails in the PNW, or going to Whistler on their Ozark Trail or Mongoose. There are plenty of folks with years of experience hitting cross country, pump tracks, blue , green, and black trails on near stock or modified budget bikes with success at a fraction of the price. I'm sorry you had to invest tens of thousands of dollars over the years to have fun because of the bike industry. It is just not necessary for everyone anymore depending on the riding you're doing.

[@richarddecredico6098]

a whole bunch of fools people that ride twice a year might be fine on budget bikes but reality is that they are fecal and do not last very long

[@BmanNL1]

​@bremingtonMTB If you are riding your bike hard on a regular basis, you just need to have good components. Everything will fail in the end but cheap parts will have a bigger risk of failing faster. Do you need to spend 10k as you say? No. But everything sub 1k is just for beginners. And if you don't have that kind of money then buy what you can afford. Riding is always better than not riding. But remember for the most part you get what you pay for.

[@mauriciorodriguez6043]

2021 Roscoe* lol my bad. Started on a $600 diamond back and I love that thing!

[@ziamlarry]

People like Matty are hopefully the reason people get into biking. Don’t feel pressured by KZbinrs or even the some in the biking community to purchase a top end bike as a first bike. Matty shoots it straight. always looking for the best deals for viewers.

[@richarddecredico6098]

no need to buy a top end bike but buying this low end crap is a bad choice there is a true middle ground videos like this are closer to virtue signaling than anything of real value

[@cedricbethea358]

​@@richarddecredico6098I disagree with you because I learned a lot from this video. It turns out that a good frame is the key because it can be upgraded with better parts. I bought a low end bike with a strong frame and upgraded it with better parts as they wore down. Years later it still runs like a high end bike.

[@Bravodark6000]

I just wanted to sat THANK YOU! watching you do online research and in person research on budget bikes from Walmart to dicks sport and goods, really helped me to do my own research and know what to look for. Because of your video I found a great bike for a even better price and i just picked it up last week, its my first actual MTB purchase! For those curious I got the Avalanche GT 29" for $460

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Does it even have a 1x drivetrain??

[@BOBFudge]

Bro, I remember when Mongoose was sooo premium, then they went to walmart and became junk. I remember the neighbor kid got a new mongoose that was dark satin purple and gold. It was the sickest ride on the block. 2 years later, they were in Walmart. Looks like they are making a comeback. The same thing happened to Diamondback.

[@cameronalexander359]

They were the BMX to have back in the 80's

[@GianCuka]

9:00 Hey Matty, you got your clutch off, you need an alen key to turn it on on the acolyte groupset. Turn the hex button until it clicks and it's on. Then (to turn it off), pull up that lever you were messing with. It should solve all the chainslap problem and quiet a lot the bike, also buying a chain stay protector is a good idea as mentioned...

[@mikeburgh3956]

Yup!! Need allen key.

[@bremingtonMTB]

I third this. I have this setup on one of my bikes and the clutch is pretty solid.

[@jandoxbsbnx]

that's crazy, i've have never heard such a thing ... glad to know

[@shane0clock716]

I've seen so many reviewers complain about the noisey acolyte that are just riding around with the clutch off lmao

[@GianCuka]

@@shane0clock716EXACTLY!!!

[@fatrobdouble]

I just want to say, i really like your pragmatic reviews, which focus on a cost:quality ratio and the actual needs of normal riders. Keep up the awesome work.

[@Eph610-20]

Matty, these are great videos. Mainly because it is helping to remove the barrier to entry for a lot of people. Some people would be afraid to show up with a Mongoose, Kent, or any other dept store bikes because it isn't one of the popular power house brands. We need to get back to the roots and work on embracing those getting into the sport regardless of their bikes or skills. Otherwise this sport will die out.

[@shaun4787]

Love your no BS, down to earth, every day budget conscious biker content. Keep it up, bro.

[@lamarwilliams185]

This brought back memories. I stoped watching the video and started reminiscing. I had a redline, mongoose, Diamond back. I had all tricked out ( bmx bikes standing pegs, no brakes so the front wheel had 360 turn. And back pedal brake or just free wheel). This was before suspension is what it is now. Rode low to the ground. Etc… bikes were simple!!!!

[@RootyArgh]

If thats the acolyte derailleur, you need to use an allen key in that screw. turn it to the right and it will set the clutch. I run that RD on my 1x9 setup, its been doing a great job for me.

[@BikeWithJohn]

Great video! Btw, That schwinn fork is actually a Suntor it just has Schwinn stickers on it for branding purposes.

[@Kufbassdsm]

My first mountain bike was a Mongoose hard tail. It was around $750. The year was 1993 though. So was original Mongoose made. Was a awesome mountain bike. Then got a Pro Flex 854 for full suspension. Ah the 90's great music and great Mountain bikes!!

[@RJKYEG]

One weakness of department store bikes is that they're typically not assembled right, so if you're not handy with bike tools you may want a decent bike mechanic to set it up for you.

[@phillk6751]

To be fair, Dicks has it's own bike mechanics....although I cannot attest to how good they actually are compared to an LBS employee.

[@garypierson6455]

Depends on where your buying, dicks has a bike mechnic to set it up

[@scruf153]

I whent with Poseidon X Gravel Bike great for everything most cyclist will do 700c or 650b tires

[@9ramthebuffs9]

there are too many good used bikes out there to throw money at these

[@travr6]

​@phillk6751 Dick's is probably the best at setting bikes up but haven't shopped with them since they went full leftist anti America long ago.

[@George-Kliavkoff4Big12]

Man, you got skills. Appreciate your content.

[@donparsons1237]

Good on you Matty for taking on the budget bikes,,, I bought a giant xtc which is a mid price bike ready too ride out of the box... the only thing too up-grade is the rider... lol. A $1000 usd funds and your good to go. Don from Western Canada

[@madshadow85]

I don't know. The new V2 Ozark Trail Ridge with the microshift acolyte/advent drivetrain and 180mm front rotor are a pretty good value.

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Yeah but at the same price point or maybe $100 more you can get hydraulic disc brakes again if you're not riding downhill a lot or techie terrain then you can get away with mechanical disc brakes I ride a lot of wheelies and it's a must for me to have hydraulic disc brakes cuz I know I'm going to get that one tap one stop

[@shane0clock716]

I bought a switchback expert on the same sale and absolutely agree that the value per dollar at $550 is great. The minor things that are lacking become reasonable to upgrade and the name brand parts on the bike become a deal at that price point. I'm just getting back into bikes after 20 years and it's great that bikes like this exist, and that there's enough people out there willing to review them for someone in my position. So budget Mongoose or not, the bike you can afford gets you off the couch better than the bike you can't.

[@soarstar]

Longtime bike enthusiast here. I don't understand the distaste for mechanical disc brakes. I do like hydros for feel and power, but properly tuned Avid BB7's are plenty capable. I have them on an S&S coupled titanium travel bike that has handled 5000'+ descents in Telluride (rotors do change colors with that use) Also, Iditarod competitors still use mechanicals due to the reliability / serviceability when it gets stupid cold.

[@MattyActive]

Mechanical isn’t bad at all if you have the right ones. I know people who only ride mechanical, I just prefer hydros

[@seanpera9499]

@@MattyActive ya it’s all about long rides or long brakes, like huge hills in your city to go down at the speed limit, mechanicals become ancient torture technology on your hands at that point.

[@mattl1762]

It's because they are used to trick the untrained eye. All for extra money.

[@eventlesslake25]

My first mtb was a mongoose tyax 2012, was great for climbing and going fast along single track, still regret selling it.

[@mmmetroidvania]

Loving the budget bike reviews. I'm looking to save up £500 - £750 for a nice new hardtail for mainly single track / bridle ways / shop runs. Also thats some nice trails you've got there. Also subbed!

[@chrisxshock]

I just got a trek marlin 7 gen 2 for the sale price 3 weeks ago. It came with the kovee tubeless ready wheels and it had upgraded maxxis tires. I did have Tektro brakes instead of Shimano, but they’re hydraulic so not a big deal. It seems that it depends on what they have to liquidate. The dealer said that’s how it arrived. Honestly, I love it, I do wish it had a tapered head tube and a little more slack, but I’ve been hammering it on the local trails and having the most fun ever! I’m hooked. I don’t know if I’m even smart enough to tell the difference. I bombed bmx bikes forever so just a front shock is amazing to me. Next season I’m aiming a Roscoe 9 or a Growler 50, which my brother just got and is freaking GORGEOUS! Keeping options open but I want a solid quality ht trail bike next.

[@aaronsosnoski1017]

Your videos are getting so good man!

[@barfo281]

What I don't like about that Mongoose is that it's a lower grade of aluminum. This Mongoose series is T1 aluminum, even though it's 6061. Most bikes (Trek, Kona, Giant, etc.) are 6061 at T6 tensile strength, which is 4x more durable than T1. People can get a much better bike for not much more money than this Mongoose.

[@arobledo6398]

You gotta use an Allen wrench to activate the acolytes clutch. That switch is just to deactivate it.

[@FollowingDopamine]

I appreciate this comment. You are giving me knowledge that I was not aware of.

[@TheBikeChannelwithMongooseJake]

Honestly, unless you're crashing non-stop or loading 1000 lbs on your bike, neither temper is going to matter. 6061 is graded as load bearing for construction purposes even at the T1 base temper. For mountain bike frames designed for basic trail riding, it's already built with more than enough fatigue resistance for a rider.

[@drill_fiend1097]

Salsa Rangerfinder on discount comes really close to the price tag of this bike.

[@barfo281]

@@drill_fiend1097 Indeed. There are many better options than this bike.

[@vadymvv]

Difference with mec and hydra brakes is how strong your forearms can squish that lever. Get a good pair of pads and nec brakes are as good as hydra.

[@bkalkhoff_69]

Rear brake just needed bled bro! And we got the clutch figured out!! This thing is riding much better

[@jakerek]

Thanks for these enlightening reviews! Fyi on SR Suntour forks, Seth on Berm Peak has a really good video about why their base models are so ubiquitous, including how solid and safe they are compared with anything else at the price point. As another commenter on this video has mentioned, they also have an upgrade program. Personally, I just upgraded from the fork shown in this video, which came with my bike, to a Suntour X1 32 (29-in wheels) coil fork, which I found on an insane bargain, new for under $100 (not sure that will ever happen again), and I am really, really impressed with it. Maybe SR Suntour forks would be an interesting video topic, Matty. Just a suggestion. Thanks again for the content!

[@TrailFeatures]

One other thing to consider is that Suntour has an upgrade program where you can get a discount on a new fork.

[@sadiejones7991]

Good to see you, I wish you would start back making videos, they were great. I hope you are doing well and having a great 4th of July.

[@gaberomero1740]

Miss your videos too, but hopefully it just means you’re out just enjoying your rides more 👍🏼

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Yeah but it's only a certain fork I think there's like three options so even after you use $100 upgrade discount you're still looking at about a $200 air fork so then you're looking at about 750 bucks total after the bike and then the $200 upgrade and then if you don't know how to put the fork on you got to have a bike shop do it so you're looking at another 70 to a hundred bucks

[@theshedMTB]

I think the geometry on the mongoose is better than the Ozark Trail too and that’s something you can’t really change. The Suntour is actually a well built fork. It just doesn’t really have any damping and it’s coil spring.

[@BanditoDan]

Bike looks good man, you gave it a great test down that trail. Looks like a lot of fun. I've been looking around for budget hardtails thinking about to get one for my little bro. I think the best bang for buck I've seen is the Poseidon Norton or the Polygon Xtrada. On sale right now.

[@bsowhat]

One big upgrade limitation is the non-Boost axle spacing of the frame. Limits better wheel choices.

[@christopherharmon9336]

I struggle with the 142mm(?) quick release standard. It seems to me, manufacturers should either stick with the older 135mm standard, or go to Boost spacing & through axles. I wouldn't be surprised if this mid-width standard goes away.

[@user-rl4ji5ne4o]

The bike is meant for certain trails that it doesn't need boost stiffness for. It can't fit a long travel boost fork. No one is going to ride it Enduro/DH unless they expect to break it on the first run, or be taking trips to the hospital 😂

[@MichaelRobibaro]

​@@christopherharmon9336 or atleast do 141..that way you can always jist add end caps to make 148 or vice versa. I'm also glad I didn't do super boost on my custom frame and stuck with 148

[@Anotheronefilms]

The rear derailer clutch is not on. You need to turn the Allen bolt on the side it has arrow next to it.

[@andrew_gardner]

Love that you are looking at options that a lot of people that turn to YT for ideas on getting into MTB would be considering. I think that if you are considering upgrading the brakes and fork...why wouldn't you save the $150 and get the Ozark Trail?

[@MattyActive]

The brakes aren’t an immediate upgrade that needs to be done on that bike in my opinion. Just the fork. You can get a rockshox recon for about $280 and get $120 brakes and I think it would be a hardcore hardtail at that point.

[@sim_dude]

@@MattyActive what brakes are you thinking of ? just rotors and pad ? or the full kit ?

[@jimmyramirez2677]

Oh one more thing I love your channel Keep it up Matty!☺

[@scruf153]

I would recommend Poseidon X Ambition or Redwood $899 Gravel Bikes you can get 700c or 650b tires flat or road handle bars there great bikes I use them for commuting and for the trails

[@dragonflygenetics420]

Thank you for the upgrade because even though I name my dog Roscoe and I really want that Roscoe 9876 I just can't afford it living out the United States. And to bring in a new bike I have to pay 38.8% duty plus shipping...

[@Kelekona_808]

Great price to performance insight Matty. I was surprised to hear that you didn't trust the rear hydraulic break going down the trail.

[@MattyActive]

The brake was going down to my knuckle for some reason. Maybe I need to realign the calipers

[@Kelekona_808]

@@MattyActive if you're talking about lever pull you may need to adjust the tension/pressure in your brake line.

[@arobledo6398]

You gotta use an allen wrench to activate the clutch on the acolyte. That lil lever is for deactivation only.

[@arobledo6398]

I've used that derailleur and an advent 9 shifter with an aliexpress 11-50 tooth 9 speed cassette and has worked phenomenally. Maybe an experiment you wanna do for you next vid on this bike. Keep it budget.

[@kevintamargo9429]

Thank you for the advice and honesty

[@ylana4444]

Trouble with budget bikes I find is…always a bunch of little or even big things wrong…for example the clutch problem, your rear brake etc I’m no bike mechanic and need my bike to work well, be safe right out of the box…not being tubeless ready would be a deal breaker for me. I would rather spend a few more dollars and not have the headaches. lol! Appreciate your videos and narratives. Your trails look absolutely amazing!

[@glennnorthrop8080]

Solid bike, especially since the price has been dropped to a more reasonable amount, given the equipment and competition. I just purchased a Ozark Trail Ridge and glad that I did. Since you mentioned that you’d want to replace the front fork and brakes, the Ridge is actually a better value ($150 less). I plan on replacing my fork and brakes as well, but I’m already sitting with a bike with a bigger front disk (180mm), 9 speeds, yet has all the “upgradability” of the Mongoose.

[@mrvwbug4423]

If those are Tektro hydrualic disc brakes, simply upgrading to the metallic pads will make a big difference. They use standard Shimano type pads so lots of options. As for upgrades, adding a dropper post and converting it to tubeless would make a huge improvement to the bike with no other change. I did the same thing to the Giant Talon hardtail I bought back in 2019 and it made that bike way more capable. Those WTB tires might even be tubeless ready already so you'd only need to tape the rim and add a tubeless valve stem and sealant.

[@Alkatraz415]

Growing up I got hooked on GT bikes. GT freestyle in the late 80s and mountain in the 90s. I'm on the Kona Big Honzo now. I do think too many people spend too much on their bikes. They think they need a certain level of bike but don't really use it fully. They can spend much less for their use and wouldn't know the difference in the ride.

[@George-Kliavkoff4Big12]

For that price, I would save a little more and go with the Poseidon Norton.

[@barfo281]

Indeed. Unfortunately the Norton only comes with 27.5" wheels.

[@GianCuka]

@@barfo281 thats true, but remember that at least they are boost axles and have space for chunky tires

[@LarryRichelli]

@@GianCuka And the rims are tubeless ready

[@amboroverdecillo8101]

Always great and entertaining videos! but what is wrong with mechanical brakes? I hear they are less trouble and problem prone than the hydraulic ones.

[@vlazielrodriguez9351]

Would you say it’s better than the ozark trail?

[@donnovicki9771]

Please, get a hold of Giordano Bikes and have them send you an Intrepid. It's a way better and more capable bike. Suntour XCM air, 10 speed, 760 bars, plus the frame is a work of art. Mongoose/ Giordano shoot out........ Dude remember when looking at that derailleur it ain't no Shimano.

[@tmschneider02]

I'm loving the poseidon Norton, great bike under 1k

[@AdamTreier]

I don't know if I would take this over a Gen2 Marlin 5 for $50 more though, all the G2 Marlins are on deep discount right now... I am looking at a Marlin 8 Gen2 for $1k with a dropper and air fork and can't decide between that and a used 10 year old Full Suspension bike.

[@eduardoguzman333]

I love your videos and it’s awesome that you’re covering bargain bikes. I think what people need to understand though is that you really do get what you pay for and what these bikes are intended for. This Mongoose is a really good price for lite trail riding or fire road. In your video you start mentioning all the upgrades due to the bike not performing to a person’s expectations. The bad fork, chain slap, week brakes. Bike=600 out the door Fork upgrade=200 - 400 Brake upgrade=100-200 Front wheel upgrade that isn’t quick release to fit your fork upgrade=100-200 Possible derraileur update=100-200 All said and done after these upgrades, you probably could find a very good bike on the used market, that can handle the rougher trails right out, with no upgrades needed.

[@jonathanpacheco5506]

I bought a hardtail, the NS eccentric, 2 years ago, honestly, a big part of my purchase was the nice paint and geometry of the bike. The components are good for a bike of 1600 dollars, but now, looking at these Waltmart bikes, I would probably change my decision. Thanks Matt for the great content

[@MissingLinkMTB]

It's a sale price, and no different than they used to do with the GT Aggressor Pro. It was a constant $550 if I remember, but always went on sale for about $350. This bike will probably be what replaces that in that sale category for Dick's. The Ozark Trail is a great deal and I found comparably equipped Marin bikes at the local dealership to be about $200 more. However as you point out, that the Mongoose has hydraulic brakes is a nice upgrade for the price. Upgrading my Ozark Trail to disc set me back about that much alone considering I didn't have the proper tools at the time to install and bleed hydraulic brakes. The fork is ok. Seems the same as the 'Goose anyway. Lots of miles on my Ozark Trail. Factory tires, they're ok. Not great. Had this been available I definitely would've bought this as I'm an old school Mongoose fan. That's exclusively all I would ever race in BMX back in the day.

[@kemicala]

So if you don't trust the brakes on the mongoose and the Ozark trails main knock was the brake, sounds like both need brake upgrades but the Ozark trail is cheaper. I was able to put hydraulic brakes on a Ozark Trail for $30. Still cheaper than the Mongoose.

[@dskillzhtown]

Prices are now settling to where they should have been all along. Same with e-bikes as well.

[@nastynate3903]

I literally bought this bike at Dicks today for $549. Luckily, it was the last one in the store and needed to be assembled. Will be ready for pick up by Monday. Can't wait!

[@SachiandMiming]

Hey make sure the rear brakes work when you pick it up, I had a major problem with mine and it took them 2 weeks to fix it but they gave me a 25% refund for the trouble so it's all good. Other than that the bike is awesome! Been riding greens and blues and it's been great.

[@jakev1341]

The one selling point for the Schwinn Axum Comp X is that you get a dropper post. I like your reasonings for the Mongoose Switchback, however I tried looking for the Mongoose and the price is back to $699. Would the Comp X be a better value at this point if I also upgraded the brakes to hydraulic?

[@DylanMahoney]

Enjoying all the videos, Matt. I was curious, are you in Cooradp? I’m originally from Colorado you just have me curious where you’re living

[@fendigucci6307]

A bike is just a bike i used to believe and dream of having a highend mtb with rockshox recon air, deore drivetrain etc then i bought one realized the Kona kahuna 2022 wasn't much better than my cube aim race only thing different was the gears and the rockshox air recon performed well below what i thought only slightly better than suntour coil fork. Its all just marketing and hype to get people to part with alot of money for a fairly basic/normal product.

[@derekdavis6508]

This is a good deal then maybe a diamondback hook, they had one I really liked on chain reaction cycles, Ragley Marley was up to about $1,000, bikes direct and bicycles online, I build my own so I could ordee anything.

[@brentkasl6510]

Great info, what complete mountain bike would you recommend for an occasional mountain bike rider that does not want to do any upgrades on a budget, L frame, disc brakes, front suspension? Thanks

[@BaldKiwi117]

my biggest issue with budget bikes is that bottom of the barrel sr suntour pogo stick. Rode them for years and recently upgraded to an airfork. I don't think I can ever go back lol

[@tico78742]

I picked up the Walmart Ozark Trail 29 mtb for $159 because the rear derailleur isn’t working. I’m seriously considering upgrading it to ride some trails.

[@sadiejones7991]

Happy 4th man, you are making great videos as usual.

[@nathanwilliams3839]

I picked the ridge v2 for 198 at Walmart. First mountainbike I've bought so for my first it does great . A few upgrades I'm looking at and I'll be set til I get a F.S bike

[@lukem7203]

How did you get a ridge for 198?

[@clint2627]

I’d like to know how this stacks up against the Poseidon Norton

[@crocketgsxr6]

my 2014 trek X-caliber 7 bike has mechanical disk brakes. it was $1100 when I got it new. But having Hydraulic disc brake on these new budget bikes is awesome

[@SachiandMiming]

Love this bike, well worth the price imo.

[@jered2177]

Doesn't suntour have a upgrade program for fork?

[@MattyActive]

Oh yea I think you’re right, I totally forgot about that

[@smithandshortdogs]

Honestly, if the ozark trail is 150 cheaper it may be a better buy. You can get a set os shimano hydraulics for way less than that. As to the Axum, I have the previous version (same frame as the DP). Awesome bike. Got it on clearance for like 250 ish. Got way to much into it now but it is fun.

[@Maple_Leaf42069]

looks very upgradeable, how about QR to thru-axel?

[@kodos9901]

Matty, can you please review the Univega Rover RM-29?

[@slowcar68]

Do you think this bike would be a good all around option for city/hills and trails? I would like to do all types of riding and can’t really afford to have multiple bikes for each type of riding. Thanks for the video and advice!

[@junzamo]

Nice video l like the comparison between bikes

[@RJKYEG]

How do these compare to Northrock bikes at Costco? I would like to see CCM make a decent HT with a tapered head tube.

[@jbarryclkrec]

Doesn't the Schwinn come with a dropper?

[@MattyActive]

Nope

[@keithkuder7879]

Yup!

[@tonyjenkins5423]

Sounds good,have you done any reviews on a marin bobcat 3? Like to hear ur opinions on that bike

[@jacobherrera9678]

Need more tension on the chain for less chain slap looseness

[@xmateinc]

Here in Oregon we have a tax on bike sales over 200 bucks and 26 inch wheels or bigger. Wal mart is the biggest seller of bikes in the state, and they don’t sell any bikes for 200 bucks on the floor. They’re all online were that tax doesn’t apply.

[@hippiebits2071]

What an odd tax

[@xmateinc]

@@hippiebits2071 its supposed to go to bike infrastructure, but only the big cities see any of that money, and only the actual bike shops pay into that tax. How convenient for the largest retailer in the state.

[@TheSTGChannel]

Now is this bike as good as the GT bikes that it shares the shelf with? GT avalanche and aggressor are the bikes that I am looking at at this moment.

[@barfo281]

GT Avalanche 1X is superior to this Mongoose. The Aggressor is a 2X drivetrain, which isn't ideal (anymore). But the GT frames are more durable than the Mongoose, by a lot, even though they are owned by the same company. The Mongoose does LOOK nice, though.

[@TheSTGChannel]

@@barfo281 agreed I like the avalanche better then the aggressor but does the avalanche come with a tapered

[@barfo281]

@@TheSTGChannel yes, both GT Avalanche (1x and 2x) have tapered head tube.

[@TheSTGChannel]

@@barfo281 wow avalanche for the win. Hope he makes a vid on the avalanche soon.

[@sim_dude]

allen key to turn the clutch on. not sure why they made it this way.

[@1OTDM]

If you have to replace the brakes anyways then why pay the premium? IMO just another reason to buy the cheapest frame and just upgrade it.

[@mcbrian]

Budget bikes are so fun. With more and more standardization it's getting really fun to buy cheap bikes and upgrade. You will be able to buy all of these used for

[@Vowsr]

Love your videos but there is no way that mongoose is competing with the trek marlin 6 gen 3 2023 I’d love to see a video comparing the two but I don’t knwo

[@tbull1545]

damn for what was a 949 dollar bike you only get the 28mm stanction fork. my fuse for 949 on sale comes with a 32mm xfusion.

[@dmcintyre15]

Where is this trail, it looks amazing!

[@MattyActive]

Lair o bear park in Morrison Colorado

[@rumblebee0217]

For a budget bike i recomend to my friends brandname bikes like specialized or Trek. They have bike below the 800 dlls. Better bike overall than a mongoose or waltmart bikes.

[@CoolBoy-nl7qy]

The Mongoose is much better than any marlin or cheap specialized. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@barfo281]

@@CoolBoy-nl7qy Your post is false.

[@CoolBoy-nl7qy]

@@barfo281 No it isn't

[@barfo281]

@@CoolBoy-nl7qy It is absolutely false. This Mongoose has a much weaker tensile strength aluminum frame than either Trek or Specialized's cheapest options (which are all T6, while Mongoose for some reason decided to make this frame T1). FYI, T6 is at least 4X stronger/more durable than T1. You're the one spreading misinformation if you're saying the Mongoose is better, because it is not.

[@mikeburgh3956]

Need allen key to activate clutch. Finger to deactivate it.

[@jasonpatrickdeleon4701]

Can you review dartmoor rocbird frame thanks

[@barfo281]

DSG frequently runs big discounts on their bikes, every couple of months. For the money, I'd get a GT Avalanche 1X if you can find one at DSG....if that's where you're limited to shopping. And again, the Mongoose frame being T1 grade makes it really NOT a better deal than a Trek Marlin, which is T6 tensile strength (So is the GT, which is weird, because Mongoose and GT are owned by the same company). It it's something that's going to be gently ridden on paved and dirt roads only, then the Mongoose is probably okay, but if it's a bike you want to upgrade and do serious mountain biking, look past the Mongoose for a better frame if you want it to last a long time.

[@AGhostRiderR]

Right now your trek marlin 6 is on sale for 649 5 for 550 gen2

[@BanditoDan]

caught me snoopin

[@Leroy115]

Great review

[@jimmyramirez2677]

Yea it looks like it is back up to $699 in my area they must have also heard your comments. Scott has been slashing prices on Mountain bikes I can currently get a New Scott Scale 970 for $899 you tell me what's a better deal??😂 Maybe you can just do best budget bikes under $1000.00.

[@HullioGQ]

Does Mongoose build its own frames, or are they off-the-shelf? The welds look very low quality!

[@xmateinc]

Mongoose is owned by pacific cycles, the same people that own schwinn. Definitely mass produced cheap aluminum.

[@barfo281]

@@xmateinc Same company owns Canondale and GT, and those frames are far superior grade aluminum to the Mongoose.

[@michaelbruin8972]

My wife's Tektro mechanicals are very strong. As good as my Tektro hydros. She brakes a lot and has worn them to the point where they are ridiculously good.

[@greekveteran2715]

Is this Mongoose a better bike than the Rockhopper please?

[@NoMoney001]

Same thing is going on w/ firearms right now. People bought everything during COVID. Current demand is down and supply is up = Prices must come down to meet demand.

[@jandoxbsbnx]

is this bike faster then the trek marlin 5 and 6... i test out the marlin and it was slow, slower then my other bikes so i didn't buy it...

[@guambra2001]

The Schwinn is a better deal imo, you get a dropper post, the rear wheel is QR 141 which will work with boost wheels with an adapter. Also the tires are 2.6 native winch means more clearance for mud and better cushioning for later. The mongoose is not well spec in comparison. Also MT200 brakes are like 60 bucks so it’s still a better price.

[@jprelock]

Why the hate for cable disc brakes? I know there are models that are quite good. I would understand if the ones you're specifically referring to are not good. And there are some low end hydro discs I think are not good.

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Problem is the bikes 548 then even if you use Sun tours upgrade program their cheapest fork is 200 after the discount so now you're up to $750 bucks I just bought a 2024 specialized rockhopper sport wasn't even paying attention it has a suntour coil fork so after doing all that if you can't do the fork switch over yourself you're going to have to take it to a bike shop which is another 70 to 100 bucks My box shop charges 70 bucks to swap out forks You're close to $900 at that point