The C5 C6 Magic Button

[@raulalmeida8763]

All babysitters are in control 🤣 gotta love Lyle. The best in the business

[@Kevin2010GS]

Picking up my first Corvette tomorrow - 2010 GS! Your videos/advice have been invaluable! Thanks!!

[@gsmith207]

Welcome to the club! Congratulations 🎊🍾🎈!

[@bobbartlett246]

Once again…. Lyle and C&S is the best in the business

[@stevend8785]

The Competitive mode has saved my bacon many times in my C6 Z06. I love it and would never turn that off. The problem with burnouts is these cars will get traction and when they do they will launch wherever they want.

[@joem1224]

There is a couple of us at work that have C5 Corvette's. We call it the stupid button. One can do some stupid stuff when the button is pushed. I rarely turn mine off for fear of doing something stupid. It is defiantly a game changer on my 98' M6. Easily fry's the tires with TC off. Be prepared. Another great video Lyle!

[@buzzedalldrink9131]

I just bought a C6 and own a C3 I learned more here in a few days than I ever could on my own Thank you Lyle your info is literally a life changing experience!!

[@kfh1]

I love the magic button on my C6, and I use it all the time when the roads are dry, and when it's not too cold for the tires to maintain sufficient grip. My 5th Gen Camaro SS has a magic button as well, and the same rules apply.

[@dogsandcars202]

Thank you for someone finally explaining all this

[@themathing]

The C5 does turn everything off. If you have AH, pushing the button once turns TC and AH off. Go do doughnuts. If you hold it for competitive driving mode, it just turns off TC, so you can do burnouts, but if you get sideways the AH kicks in.

[@brucedelaney9606]

Thank you so much Lyle. I am picking up a 2008 Corvette convertible today you really taught me what years to look for. I wanted a C6 and I waited two years for the price to come down. Two years ago this car was $32,000. I waited and paid 21,000 yesterday. The car has 69,000 miles on it and the Corvette mechanic I brought it to give it two thumbs up, the dealership had to fix a couple of items and now it is ready. Lyle, you are awesome. Thank you so much again.

[@jimcogil608]

I learned something new today. Can't wait for spring to get my car out and check out the magic button!

[@jivadaya6439]

I listened to Lyle say this out loud well before I found my '04 but didn't understand exactly what it meant. After a year and a half, I can say for sure that this "magic button" does indeed reveal my Vette's other "personality" and has reminded me on many occasions that is to be respected 🤫

[@MCGDEC]

Great info Have an 04 convertible. Didn't know this existed till 3 years ago. Probably saved my life a few times😂 Replacement visors are awesome, Lyle!

[@danlaur7973]

Lyle, love your sense of humor! Good video

[@Cokie907]

My 2000 has active handling, yet I've had the thing fishtail really nasty a couple of times. Typically a combo of little tread remaining and a heavy foot. I countersteered it no problem but wondered why the babysitters didn't come to my rescue. Perhaps they determined "he's got this" and just sat around watching the show. 😂

[@stereolababy]

or you can't drive big baby

[@Carl-un1rr]

Always great advice attached to great information. Knowing what to expect when the magic button is pushed before you push it is very important. Your knowledge and advice is always very well respected.

[@phillipgarrow2297]

I went sideways in the rain in my 2016 going into 3rd gear hard thank God for traction control and adaptive handling

[@lionelborges8094]

Lyle, Lionel here in central California. That's good stuff. I'm basically a Harley rider and been a Corvette owner for about 50 years. About 4 years ago I got a 06 C6. Absolutely love the car. I ride my Harley year round and so when I have to drive I want something that is fun, as well as enjoyable. I knew about the magic button, so I thought. Didn't realize it had more magic. I read my owners manual as I do for all my vehicles, but must of missed the magic section. I like the use of props, nice. Your must see for Vette owners. Thanks for info.

[@hardycoffman6896]

Nice podcast/video collection- subscription earned!

[@jefflawson7468]

👍👍😎always enjoy your videos

[@nikkoalpha2]

I was looking at a C6 that the owner decided he preferred a Z06 for extra performance. I asked him if he ever activated the magic button. He said he never heard of it. I said try it out and then let me know if you still want to sell and get a Z06. Never heard back from him. Guess he decided his C6 was now fast enough.

[@sukmynutz69]

or he crashed it 🤣

[@lancebeauchamp5267]

Love your show, very informative, I think because of your show I believe I now know what is causing my slight noise, harmonic balanceer, yup , dam. Beau

[@stephenaddair]

My 2005 just has competitive driving mode and traction control and active handling modes , it doesnt have everything off mode

[@JJ-wf6eu]

Hello to the man who walked in the background and realized there was something going on in here. 😂

[@fabssgarage]

Lol i love how you explain everything mate! I'm planing to buy a C5 (I live in Spain) and since then can't stop watching your videos and suggestions 😊 thank you!!

[@stevebarker4681]

Thanks hit the fun button today. 👍

[@themathing]

I have a 2002 C5 Z06. Start the car and traction control and active handling are on. Hold button for 5 seconds and Competitive driving mode turns on, which leaves active handling on, but turns off traction control. In other words, you can do a burnout and spin as much tire as you want, but if you start to go sideways active handling kicks in and tries to save you. So if you want to have some fun but with a little saftey net behind you, competitive driving mode it is. Push the Button once.... traction control and active handling are turned off. This mode allows you to do doughnuts or slide around however you please. The only thing saving you is your right foot.

[@cathyhigh379]

Thanks I enjoy these videos going to have some fun

[@funguy7979]

Love the show. I'm learning so much about corvettes. Deciding to go with a C5 soon.

[@martztillo7920]

Awesome information sir! You are the man sir!!

[@josephcruz3330]

Lyle, I am so glad I found your company. I have done a lot of business with West Coast Corvette in California and I am glad to find your company. I have a 2000 C5 Corvette 5.7 LS1 with 34,000 miles on it. I did sign up for your VIP Membership but it won't let me in. I will try tomorrow and see. I live in Honolulu Hawaii and Corvette parts out here is hit and miss most of the time. Even the Dealerships at times don't have parts and to SPECIAL Order it will cost you. We will be doing business. Thanks again for what you do. Mahalo and Aloha Joe V. Cruz

[@csvette]

Hi Joe! The VIP program has been set aside as I don't have the time to make two sets of videos--one for everyone and one for paying members. I prefer at this point to just do my best for everyone and rely on them to return the favor by doing business with us. I look forward to helping you! Lyle

[@josephcruz3330]

@@csvettesorry I didn't see or it didn't ask for any payments to join the VIP I don't have any problem paying to be a VIP. I will try to fix it or call Customer Service tomorrow. Thanks for getting back to me.

[@ss-5553]

Thank's for the good video and explaining those different modes.

[@txrancher47]

Thanks!

[@papagigo1]

You're the best Lyle !!

[@simondaccache386]

Thank you amazing explain.

[@williamtricarico6684]

I have a 2000 6spd manual and recently replaced all four original hubs, rotors and brake pads, at 140,000 miles. Still has original clutch. Prior to hub replacement, I had abs light on as one of the wheel sensors was bad. After replacement abs came back, but the magic button doesn't do anything and I'm getting active handling warming up constantly through info center then service active handling warning. Oh btw, my car was also equipped with magnetic ride control. When I try switching between sport, touring, etc.modes nothing happens. Is it possible something is wrong with the control panel/magic button, wiring, switches, or a fuse?

[@oscarcuevassn95saleemzr12]

Jaja thanks man another great lesson 👍 really enjoying this , I need something new a new car experience ( hobby) looking forward 😎🤙

[@amadormandujano9323]

Thank you that really helped me out now I know exactly what to do with my C6 Corvette.

[@TheSteveBoyd]

That moment where you say screw it and put your foot through the floor, because every VW Golf and soccer mom SUV wants to race you off the line - but you end up looking like a chump because you forgot to turn off that goddamn babysitter mode and suddenly it feels like you're towing a boat! Yeah... I don't know what that's like at all. 😂

[@HusseinWN]

Great video I always tell my friends about your channel 👍 more C5 videos hell yea . Would love to get one about the common leaks on the C5 and how to fix them.

[@themathing]

His C5 info on traction control is almost correct. If your car was equipped with active handling, pushing the button once turns TC and AH off. Holding it for competitive driving mode leaves AH on and turns TC off.

[@kallo182]

What common Leaks do you mean ?

[@HusseinWN]

@@kallo182 like where does it leak from the most likely to places.

[@kallo182]

@@HusseinWN I have a C5 and its complete dry. There is no Leak. Maybe the Pre Owner of the Car fixed it, i dont know. But i have it since 4,5 years, and it dont Leak.

[@gregkistner1955]

As usual well explained!

[@k3boolf13]

Just an extra information I picked up from the owner's manual on a 2006 Corvette. If your TPMS light is on or your TPMS system is malfunctional then all you could do is go into traction control off and that's about it.

[@blt2drive492]

Even my V wagon likes the magic button mode... no lift upshifts activated, stiffer feeling steering, by far GM's best feature...the magnetic shocks...they flex-up and keep everything flat cornering hard... and yeah it toovwill run a lit tle harder unleashed!! 🥰💕

[@doolallyproductions7234]

Competition mode is my favorite lets me have fun but saved me when i was getting on a on ramp and there was a slite dip

[@bradkeeney5236]

Thanks

[@philstone7277]

My 2k must have the option,,,,,It says competitive on dash,,,, love your videos,,,,

[@basicdetail4512]

Hey Lyle , m'y 97 c5 start to randomly Says traction control enable something like That ... around 50mph and i get the feeling That the Rear brake are apply until i press the tcs Burton .. may IT can be a bad speed sensor?

[@motorgearhead]

Its funny, I had the nanny in my C5 try to kill me on a wet road when I just pulling into traffic once (wet road). The car just fell on its face and I was hoping no one plowed into me... several years later after adding a supercharger the nanny's level of intervention seemed to be much lighter. It would Engage but only in a limited manner... I left the control "ON" and the car would spin going into 2nd and the nanny only intervened slightly. I asked the shop if they "tuned" or changed the traction/active handing and was told NO. It was certainly different then when the car was stock. As a reference, I never applied WOT on wet roads and even cold temps (below 50 degrees limited traction SIGNIFICANTLY and could get you into something unexpected. Here is a 0-60 pull that will show the traction control engaging on the 1-2 upshift (RPM A4 w/3.42) with the nanny fully engaged. The supercharger was a Vortech V3 SI @ 9 lbs... A&A Corvettes Kit. It was bullet proof... $,$$$ well spent if you want to add 150+ Wheel HP (472WHP/442TQ) on stock motor without headers and stock internals (except valve springs & injectors). 0-60 pull with nanny active on 1-2 upshift... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ6kinqurN2kmdk

[@robertdavis5714]

Hmmmmmmmmmm, own a C6 and did not know "all off" Thank You Lyle.

[@donw9393]

Greetings Lyle love the magic button but on my C5 2000 I also next to the magic button have a selector switch for different driving modes which you have never talked about in conjunction with the button, maybe you could explain to others how this setup works as well , thanks as always great stuff fyi im talking about the touring, sport , and performance switch thanks again

[@tman406]

I have the same comment/question. Mine is a 2004 C5. Thanks in advance for your comments.

[@levimillsaps769]

Those would be for your active suspension. Touring is soft, sport is moderate, performance will be as stiff in a corner as the magnetic fluid will allow

[@scubasteve31583]

You should do a video about c5 top replacements, now that the parts are all gone, even if you just broke the glass part, the frame OEM pieces are the only way it seals properly. Flying roof club is one thing, but if you improperly latch your top, you might bend your very impossible to replace frame pieces and a "new" top might not fix it unless it was really from GM NOS prior to the end of production of parts.

[@SoberIrishman]

I am on my 2nd 2013, GS. The 1st one seemed much faster and less sluggish than my 2nd one. Same year, only diff is my 2nd one has the Zr1 exhaust package, woohoo. I have never taken the traction off on either. Going to play with the button next time, comp mode. Any othet ideas however on why one seemed faster than the other? Thanks! Great chl.

[@robertfolgersr6280]

Hi Lyle, thank you for all the wonderful information that you put on your channel. I have two Corvettes, a 2019 Z06, and just purchased a 2011 Grand Sport with 5K original miles. Is there a supercharger that I can put on the 2011 that won't force me to change the original hood on the car? Again, thank you, I'll be looking for your response. Sincerely, RJF

[@csvette]

I believe that the ProCharger system fits under the stock hood without issue. I would contact them directly to confirm this, but I have been surprised several times when finding that system on a completely stock-looking car. Lyle

[@milojanis4901]

I watch a lot of C&S video, but I think Lyle covered this a couple years ago, at least on the C5

[@PMPerformance]

As a GS owner, I have never even touched the magic button because I do not think it is safe to even take this car to 7/10 of what it is capable of. It’s funny you even said that because I say it all the time. I REALLY want to experience this thing on a track this summer to open it up more and see what I am capable of taking this to, which I am sure I will never see what the cars limits are.

[@shaunwalsh85]

Don’t be a wuss! You only live once, and if you die hooning ya vette? At least you died doin something you’ll love! 😎

[@PMPerformance]

@@shaunwalsh85 I am far from a wuss. I didn’t say I dont hoon if. I said said these cars are sooo much more capable than most people can get them. And trying to run it full tilt on the streets is not safe. Cars pop out of nowhere on blind twisties

[@kallo182]

I have a 2000, and i knew i have AH because it have the RPO Code. But i never could get into "Competitiv Driving" mode, no matter how long i push the Button. It alwayas turns off TC and turn on back again. Than once Lyle told me, the Car have to stand still when you want activate Com.Driving. That was a Fundamental Help, because you read everywhere about those Push 5 sec. But no one actually tell you that the Car HAVE TO stand still when you do than.

[@chrisbell2362]

Would the traction control dash light go on if u push the button? I’m trying to buy a 04 but traction light is on

[@jerryhipps802]

Just curious, can all the magic button features be removed on a c5 zo6. Mine has issues

[@thomasroy3031]

If you're troubleshooting problems you can unplug the steering wheel position sensor to disable Active Handling completely. Unplugging a wheel speed position sensor will disable Anti-Lock Brakes.

[@kirkcunningham6146]

If you guys saw the timing retard tables of the C4 in traction control, you would shake your heads. It's bad. I not only zeroed out the timing table but also zeroed out the other tables associated. Even with the traction control programmed off in the Jet DST, the computer still wants to activate it so I had to zero everything out. And this is first generation traction control. I can only imagine what the other generations do...

[@adk_mtnlife]

Hey Lyle what happens when you push the button and nothing comes up on the DIC? I have no active codes. I have an 07 base automatic. Just bought the car and cant figure it out. Fuse maybe? Car runs and shifts fine

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

That is odd...I have no idea why that is happening.

[@dm2156]

Does no one read the owners manual anymore?

[@nighthawk700cc]

Probably not

[@Amarillobymorning777]

I do just to change a fuse . Love from Mexico 🇲🇽.

[@themathing]

I guess not

[@themathing]

Have you seen any new owners manuals? They look like pop up books with the way the give you information. They don't even tell you how to do vehicle services anymore, just to bring it to a mechanic.... so sad

[@waltermiller249]

Was wondering why my 99 didn't have competition mode. Thought something was wrong. Do you know the build code # in the dash?

[@JimBednar]

I've been having an issue with my 2004. at times my left front brake will grab and pull the car left,very scary! If I turn off traction control it will not do this. I get a C1282 code. Does this mean my yaw s ensor is bad or could it be another problem? Hate to just start changing stuff

[@duhrrman6666]

I have a 98 and I’ve followed the instructions but it comes up as Traction System Off. Will this let me “Have Fun”?

[@TheSurfRyder]

Talk to car enthusiast groups near you to find out if there are any lapping days at a race track near you. They have instructors that can help you get the most out of you and your car.

[@FrancoisTCS]

Good info, though a little theoretical. May be a good to show the difference with a car in real on a parking spot or safe, deserted, road? Have the 2000 car since 4 years, did one track day, kept all on and it was challenging enough for my ability. My advice, take track driving education and have fun safely. Those machines can bite.

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

I would love to have that kind of budget and time! Doing a physical demonstration as you suggest would be awesome! Unfortunately, our shop is so busy that I cannot take a day away from work to film on location with multiple cameras and a crew. I appreciate your feedback and will do my best to expand the channel as income and time allow. Lyle :)

[@jerryhipps802]

I love my 79 c3, my 01 z06 not so sure

[@scudzuki]

When I hit the button once on my C5 Z06 the DIC reports "traction control/active handling off", are you saying that active handling is neither reduced or turned off when it is in "traction control/active handling off" mode?

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

On the C5, if you just hit the button once it turns TC and AH off completely. Competitive Driving Mode turns off TC and gives you a modified version of AH. Lyle

[@scudzuki]

@@lyleaulwurm9486 That's what the DIC indicates, Thanks. With 600 rwhp via a Procharger, the TC activates pretty frequently in the lower gears, but it still allows a little throttle induced oversteer. Fun stuff.

[@InclusiveOrange]

Ran a 13.5 until… I HIT THE MAGIC BUTTON

[@rickwestlake3048]

I'm more conservative than competitive, but I love taking my 2001 C5 on twisty roads like the Tail Of The Dragon and the Arizona Sidewinder. However, I've had problems with the heart of Active Handling - the EBCM. I've had to replace it last year, with a "good used" salvaged EBCM from the best Corvette shop in the Mid-Atlantic area -- but do you know anyone who can rebuild that EBCM if it ever goes belly-up?

[@csvette]

Brandon at ABSfixer.com can repair most of the codes on the Later C5 and C6 EBCM modules. Lyle :)

[@peterb4143]

Hi Lyle, what would you say is a good price range for a clutch/ rear main job? I did it myself on jackstands back in October but unfortunately I installed the rear main I bought from you guys incorrectly and it’s leaking just a little.

[@scottferguson3842]

A 'friend of mine' had the clutch (and all associated parts) and rear main seal replaced earlier this year at GM dealership for 5k. But, I wouldn't say it was a 'good' price.

[@zimak74]

Can confirm if you hit the button once, all is off. It says it on the screen and also lets you spin out/spin tires. No help whatsoever... ask me how i know 😂

[@wrthrash]

Excellent, going to lose some rubber this weekend in a local abandoned parking lot, maybe finally "drift?"!

[@ronniebowling1485]

About a week after I got my 2000 frc, service ABS and traction control appeared on my dash and has been on ever since. I've done a reset and cleared codes,yet it still appears on dash. How can I make this go away?

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

What code(s) are you getting?

[@ronniebowling1485]

@@lyleaulwurm9486 28-TCS C 1243 H , 40-BCM B2578 H , BO-RFA U1096 H / U1064 H /U1016 H .

[@rodb8274]

I have an 03. I see only 3 different messages: Trac/Act Hndlg On (default), Trac/Act Hndlg Off (pushing button once) and Competitive Driving (holding button 6-10 seconds). You say that pushing the button once Only turns off Traction Control, but leaves Active Handling in Full mode, which seems safer for burnouts. Then I think you are saying that Competitive mode is almost like Tr/Ah Off, except that Ah is in a Weaker mode? You did say that in a C5 the AH is always on. Also, there is no way to turn off ABS, is that correct?

[@csvette]

On is "on for both". One press of the button is Off for both. Hold the button for Competitive mode which is Traction off and active handling subdued, but still there if you get too out of shape. There is no way to turn off ABS. Lyle :)

[@moonymannnn]

If I want to turn all the baby sitters off on my C5 can I simply pull the fuse for Active Handling?

[@csvette]

I asked Blake (our shop foreman) about this and his answer was as follows: If you want to disable ABS, Traction Control and Active Handling the easiest way to do that is to disconnect the EBCM. That is the only way to shut off ALL of the babysitters completely. If you turn off TC and pull the Active Handling fuse, you will still have ABS trying to keep things together. Unplugging the EBCM basically makes this car completely your resposibility--for better or worse. If you plan on autocrossing the car or taking on the track in this condition I STRONGLY suggest that you familiarize yourself with its unaided behavior BEFORE you take it into battle. Lyle :)

[@moonymannnn]

@@csvette wow! Excellent advise. That’s why I watch your channel. I’m down in Naples so I’m looking forward to visiting your shop.

[@shelleyt9559]

Hi Lyle I have 2001 and sometimes service active handling and traction control pops up on my dash.i never use the magic button is this a serious problem that needs attention .

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

DO you know what code is being set? You can access them through your instrument cluster. Lyle

[@shelleyt9559]

@@lyleaulwurm9486

[@shelleyt9559]

Hi Lyle i had a bunch of codes come up BO432 B2587 B2592 B2593 B2809 also have alot more is there a specific one maybe this will be easier,sorry about this,appreciate your help,thanks

[@sammeme7452]

My Button appears non functional. The screen says "Service Traction System" and "Service Active Handling System". I am located in Texas.

[@ChristianA328]

When I turn on the magic button and loose traction all of my ebcm lights turn on until I reset the codes 🙃

[@EElvevoll]

I believe you are wrong in regards to c5 function of the button, on my 2002 c5, one push of the button will turn off TC and AH, although if i hold it down for 5 seconds it will turn off TC but AH will be on.

[@themathing]

Same. 02 here.

[@kallo182]

Thats what i was thinking all the Time. But this Man is a Corvette Expert. Maybe he is right.

[@jrbdtx]

When I just hit the button, my 03 C5 will burn out, and go sideways almost instantly. If I go competitive driving mode, it burns out and stays in a straight line…mostly. I’m also fairly sure he misspoke. With TC off, it feels like all systems are down. In competitive driving mode, it feels like traction control is gone, but the car stays in “please don’t crash me” mode with active handling keeping the car pointed the right way.

[@themathing]

@@jrbdtx exactly

[@kallo182]

@@jrbdtx Okay, thanks

[@davidwoodward7003]

I can put my 2000 in competition mode and it shows "competition mode" on the dash, but it still acts like it is on. Case in point, when I put the pedal to the medal or try to do a brake stand from a dead stop it bogs down like the throttle is being cut out and/or timing is being retarded. No codes in the computer though.

[@stevecraig4338]

What is the sweet spot on mileage on a C5 Z06 To buy?

[@themathing]

Im mean less helps. I wouldn't say there is a sweet spot as they are pretty reliable. Its more about price. If you could find one under 80k miles thats not bad.

[@gregclapper6493]

How do I know I have that I have the button it it a Option I have a base c 6 20 13 that's it have that or is that an option

[@themathing]

Its standard. In a 2013 you definatley have it.

[@evanw5594]

My 05 base c6 only let's me "turn off traction control" but no matter how long I hold or press it won't say anything else. What do?

[@kallo182]

The Car have to stand still. It dont work when the Car is Driving.

[@brandonlucas6105]

​@kallo182 it still wont changes

[@zephmartin9477]

I press and hold for about 10 seconds

[@rickcstein]

Why did it take 5 years of ownership for me to figure this out last summer after losing a couple street races?

[@davenobleswimmer7235]

Did not know that C5's 2001 and up had active handling

[@therabbitswhisper]

and I thought only my gf had a magic button....😁

[@jacksonfive5478]

Aka the burnout button

[@deanlock7791]

Do you need to do that every time you start the car or does it stay off??

[@lyleaulwurm9486]

The system defaults to the "all On" setting every time you start the car.

[@ronsteitz4535]

Sounds like the old cars we drove back in 60s and 70s that advertedly ended up wrecked in the ditch. We had to actually drive the horsepower down the road. No way would I wish to go back in time and drive like that again.😮👎

[@paulmoss7940]

Damn I would. It was a blast . But true, some guys died.

[@xnadave]

I have Corvette. I am RaceCar driver. (sigh)

[@joby1]

Guess you don't own 1. 🤣

[@jerryhipps802]

Electronics suck

[@joby1]

Crashed my 09 ls3. Be careful turning that off. Turned into an animal lost it on an on ramp

[@bankai497]

Does the function of the magic button change if you have a tune or any mods?