The CAGED System Actually Sucks...

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Brandon D'Eon Music

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@BrandonDeon
@BrandonDeon 7 ай бұрын
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@jas_muzic
@jas_muzic 7 ай бұрын
❤❤
@Andrew-pv8oz
@Andrew-pv8oz 3 ай бұрын
The CAGED system allowed me to connect the dots in my head with music theory. Also it helped me bridge from a beginner to a solid intermediate player after 10 years of being stuck as a beginner
@corneliusrawness
@corneliusrawness 7 ай бұрын
The CAGED system should only be used as a rough guide around the fretboard but I has to be mixed with other practices; combined with and understanding of triads it can be an great way to speed up learning how to navigate the fret board. Great vid Brandon!
@greenygg3498
@greenygg3498 7 ай бұрын
Yep, I started with CAGED and got all excited thinking it was going to be my everything and have now started to realise that because I have learnt triads, other shapes/patterns and the fretboard notes it is only 1 framework or method, not the 1 and only.
@finfrances
@finfrances 7 ай бұрын
something makes me think brandon is actually secretly a guitar smoking cigarettes
@mohitrahaman
@mohitrahaman 6 ай бұрын
Has he taken up that Davie504 or pewdiepie personality recently or he was always like this?
@CapybaraASMR9
@CapybaraASMR9 7 ай бұрын
I like CAGED, it works for me. I just don't only think in terms of CAGED shapes, but the triads are helpful for soloing and for coming up with rhythm guitar parts. I also use non CAGED arpeggio shapes where two notes are played on the same string. Maybe it would be limiting if it's your only way of understanding the fretboard, but I also know from experience what potential chords I can play at certain areas of the neck, the different shapes and the names of the chords. I also know the 7th chord shapes which aren't part of CAGED. Thinking of it in terms of CAGED is often the quickest way of finding the chord tones though, at least for me.
@sven-erikrose5732
@sven-erikrose5732 7 ай бұрын
I agree--Caged and triads are basically two ways of thinking about the same things. Almost all triads are part of a caged chord shape....
@garyeggleton1142
@garyeggleton1142 7 ай бұрын
For starters, the CAGED is only a map of major triads. It doesnt fail you if you are paying attention to the triads and intervals in each shape, if you know where the thirds are, you have your minors. Also, sitting in each shape is a pentatonic AND a Major scale, and if you understand relative minors, you have the minor versions of each scale as well. So you can go the route of learning scales, triads, intervals and note names seperately, or relative to a chord shape is up to you, but seeing the chord shapes changed my life with a guitar. If it bothers people so much, stop calling it CAGED, and instead think of it as chord shapes and triads, and realize it has nothing to do with playing chords up the neck, but rather SEEING chords up the neck.
@erikaw7767
@erikaw7767 6 ай бұрын
i dunno, never saw the point in caged, just learned chord building lol.
@oktayx189
@oktayx189 6 ай бұрын
Glad it's working out for you. I learned barre chords and that they are moveable before even hearing about CAGED and I seriously struggle to see the use of it. By the way it doesn't give you scales like you said because it's only 3 notes. You have to know the formula and build the scale yourself much like you have to know and build the minor chords. Some system this. You're doing what every other guitarist must and calling it CAGED.
@noodlemans
@noodlemans 5 ай бұрын
Caged is super helpful for learning the fretboard and improvising in key.
@oktayx189
@oktayx189 5 ай бұрын
@@noodlemans Every exercise you do is useful for learning the fretboard. How are you learning the full fretboard with 3 notes at a time anyway? CAGED reminds me of how the ancient people looked at the stars and saw a bear or a ladle or something and named them such. It's such a retrofit.
@noodlemans
@noodlemans 5 ай бұрын
@@oktayx189 I’m not sure I followed your question about 3 notes. Caged shows you where the chords are, which is where the triads, arpeggios, and scales are. It’s really helpful.
@venkatnatarajan3479
@venkatnatarajan3479 7 ай бұрын
I did not have a tough time figuring out Em shape because I wasn't thinking "highest fret of the previous chord is the lowest position of the next". I was looking for the "next root" note. This, in my opinion, would help beginners 1. Help understand chord formulas 1,3,5 (also minor variations) 2. Root positions 3. Movable neck shapes 4. Triads 5. And then arrive at CAGED so that they know what was going on all this while.
@nevaidhyasingh4323
@nevaidhyasingh4323 4 ай бұрын
what do you mean by movable neck shapes
@BLazLessons
@BLazLessons Ай бұрын
100
@hoodiejalen366
@hoodiejalen366 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Brandon, this shit really PISSES ME OFF
@andrewfrancis7739
@andrewfrancis7739 7 ай бұрын
Professional here (not to sound arrogant lol) but the CAGED system is the one thing that has massively allowed me to improvise freely on the neck. CAGED combined with pentatonics. The fretboard is a non-intuitive layout, therefore you need specific systems to truly conceptualize the fretboard.
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
I am not professional but I agree with you. I think its much easier to remember the moveable caged shapes( the massive advantage guitar players have) and know the notes of the fretboard than to remember what 3 notes make up each major/minor chord..
@austint1151
@austint1151 28 күн бұрын
Caged and pentas are good for learning intermediate soloing. You'll hit a plateau though. You need a deeper understanding of the chords themselves and not just moving shapes.
@ReeOnTheBeat
@ReeOnTheBeat 7 ай бұрын
This beats all those 32 min videos 😂😂💯
@Kallum
@Kallum 7 ай бұрын
I only really use the E shaped and A shaped chords solely by remembering the notes of the frets on the low E and A string, gets me everywhere, easy/similar to play, works perfectly.
@99mrslang
@99mrslang 6 ай бұрын
I think CAGED has more application when it comes to learning arpeggios, considering the shapes that are less "practical" to play as chords just become viable arpeggios to help you map things out
@keithlamontdavis8047
@keithlamontdavis8047 6 ай бұрын
I love the CAGED system. It really opened up the fretboard for me. It showed how all of the major chords are laid out. Of course, I also learned how to turn all 5 shapes into minor, major 7th, minor 7th, dominant 7th, minor 7b5 and other chords. Some of the shapes are very easy to play, some aren't, but that gave me a massive chord library. And then there's major and minor scales aligned with each shape for lead playing. CAGED is how I think of the fretboard.
@noodlemans
@noodlemans 5 ай бұрын
And the triads and arpeggios are all inside those caged shapes.
@oktayx189
@oktayx189 3 ай бұрын
That's awesome but that's just barre chords. And they are moveable. That's the totality of the "system".
@Johnmajong
@Johnmajong 2 ай бұрын
@@oktayx189dude, it’s not about just playing those shapes as bare chords which you sure can, its more of visualisation tool. each penta/full scale positions overlaps each shape, shapes are waypoints to navigate through the neck by seeing scales in clusters of triads arpeggios and chord tones. I love Brandon, but his explanation of caged is a tip of an iceberg, but he might simply troll as always😅. It’s just one of the ways to look at freatbord, there are others which are as effective
@isaiahmarquez9717
@isaiahmarquez9717 7 ай бұрын
About time someone said it. Learn your triads. And ditch the cigarettes! 🚬 Should have had an example in G MINOR.
@dereklevesque5283
@dereklevesque5283 7 ай бұрын
@TopoIl12not the minor triads tho
@Gameboy2007-Official
@Gameboy2007-Official 7 ай бұрын
@@dereklevesque5283 i mean, a minor chord will be minor anywhere on the fretboard (on the same strings)
@Gameboy2007-Official
@Gameboy2007-Official 7 ай бұрын
@@dereklevesque5283 the formula for any scale is the same Eg. The formula for the e minor and g minor scales is the same along with any other minor chord (W-H-W-W-H-W-W , W is 2 semitones, H is 1 semitone Chords are built from the notes of a scale If you were to play a chord the simple way (1-3-5), lets say G minor on the G, B and E strings (e standard tuning) you would play 12 on G, 11 on B, and 10 on E. Now if you were to play that one fret higher (13, 12, 11) you would have a G# minor chord, different notes, same intervals Playing any chord in one shape will give you the same chord, just with a different tonic (1st note of the scale) and therefore different notes to the same type of chord
@guillermor.r4831
@guillermor.r4831 4 ай бұрын
​@@dereklevesque5283It's simply a help for visualization. I would say it's just as difficult or even easier to learn a couple of shapes than to learn all the triads across the fretboard. In fact, as they told you, the CAGED system is basically formed by triads, and it's just as easy to make them minor as it is to think of triad shapes as minor
@fazefusion2220
@fazefusion2220 3 ай бұрын
Triads are so simple tho I don’t know how people are too lazy to learn them it just takes time ig
@IcanhearClemFandango
@IcanhearClemFandango 7 ай бұрын
Turns out I already knew the caged system from just learning chords...
@Emrys345_Guitar
@Emrys345_Guitar 7 ай бұрын
This is why I like tomo's videos on learning triads.
@Corner-for-Assorted-Oats
@Corner-for-Assorted-Oats 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I love the G shape, I never understood why everyone says it's impractical, it's really not too difficult to play once you get the feel, and it definitely sounds better than the alternative you used
@erikracz4162
@erikracz4162 7 ай бұрын
I always considered this system a starting point, for someone who is afraid to start learning music theory.
@GuppyGuitar803
@GuppyGuitar803 7 ай бұрын
Also memorize all the notes.on the fretboard 👍
@notsure1135
@notsure1135 7 ай бұрын
I don’t use it. Been playing for 30 years.
@marknieuweboer8099
@marknieuweboer8099 7 ай бұрын
As a former violin/violin and current bass player the cage (sic!) system never made much sense to me. Shapes do, though, as I have to play arpeggios. Thanks for confirming. This video is very useful to understand chords - making it easier to find the right arpeggios. Thanks for that too.
@TotallyNotTony_
@TotallyNotTony_ 7 ай бұрын
Idk whats wrong with me the CAGED system makes almost no sense to me but learning triads just clicked instantly
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
The triads are in each CAGED shape for any chord lol
@BLazLessons
@BLazLessons Ай бұрын
@@brandonnewyork11 Sure they are in there, but so much more powerful to practice them directly
@EMGENT_24
@EMGENT_24 6 ай бұрын
Dude where the hell were you 30 years ago? This was awesome and made me feel really stupid! Thank you for that!
@camkillam2437
@camkillam2437 7 ай бұрын
Great content love everything especially the yelling
@9OUNCEBeats
@9OUNCEBeats 7 ай бұрын
but its funny lol
@martinfendt1305
@martinfendt1305 3 ай бұрын
​@@9OUNCEBeats not
@seanbrown6904
@seanbrown6904 6 ай бұрын
Its easier to just learn it all with raw memory, takes a while but it cements to you better,
@SolidSnacking97
@SolidSnacking97 7 ай бұрын
Instead of caged I’ve just been using the c major scale to map out the fretboard. Just gotta know C in a few positions and the scale pattern from one octave to the next. Amazing thing about this is you can superimpose this scale over the entire fretboard along with the actual key/scale you want to play.
@doggoinastukagames1500
@doggoinastukagames1500 6 ай бұрын
Me personally I use a mixture of many. Go to for me are 3nps shapes, but being able to visualize individual intervals and where they are on the guitar helps massively. Having a good ear also helps a lot, as if you know the note your playing a string below is a major 3rd for example, you can use that knowledge to build scales or whatever from that point. My favorite thing to do is to use this to make up open note voicings for chords and when experimenting with alternate tunings
@TroyKBarnes
@TroyKBarnes 7 ай бұрын
Enjoying the longer-form content, keep up the good work
@danielmoralalonso1724
@danielmoralalonso1724 7 ай бұрын
Brandon, que buen invento es la música, que sin saber inglés , me entero de lo que dices. Eres un crack, muchas gracias desde España!!
@nine9whitepony526
@nine9whitepony526 7 ай бұрын
I never bothered myself with caged bullshit. I drew out every single note of the major scale in every single key onto it's own piece of paper, then shaded in all the roots 3rds and 5ths. That gives me every triad in the major scale. Then i remembered where all the roots and 3rds of each inversion is and by proxy know where the 5ths are. From there you can change your chords to minors and sus and diminished appropriately. Here is also how you remember every note of the chords. A - AC#E (just remember that the C is sharp) B- Big, sharp Dam, sharp Fork C- Could, End ,Good D- Dead, sharp Fucken, Air E- Every, sharp Good, Boy F- Fake, As, Cake G- Good, Boys, Die
@Afish8me2china
@Afish8me2china 7 ай бұрын
In my early days of learning guitar, my friend showed me this system and despite knowing nothing I thought that was the stupidest shit ever
@davidferrara1105
@davidferrara1105 5 ай бұрын
Yes everyone is wrong except you. Lolol
@Afish8me2china
@Afish8me2china 5 ай бұрын
@@davidferrara1105 No I’m wrong about things. CAGED is just stupid for what I want out of guitar.
@BLazLessons
@BLazLessons Ай бұрын
@@davidferrara1105 You realize the creator of the video we are all commenting on agrees with this, so that's one.
@Choptron27
@Choptron27 7 ай бұрын
Yeah people teach caged along with pentatonics and it’s extremely limiting, come to find out, most of the time they can’t explain anything beyond shapes, they’ll just say oh this is shape 3 over these power chords at this fret… and I’m like… but why? 😅. At least I used to be, I’m still not a musical scholar or anything, but I can move around in key, and learning to target triads, rather than shapes only
@kendricklyon9633
@kendricklyon9633 7 ай бұрын
I really hate bullshit in all aspects of life, so a no bullshit lesson in my favorite thing is really helpful.
@lincolntx98
@lincolntx98 7 ай бұрын
yeah waiting for the video on soloing using bitch CAGED system
@cartong8804
@cartong8804 6 ай бұрын
I think the Best way to understand chords is by learning scales, once You get the minor and major scale playing chords becomes second nature
@monsieurhercule
@monsieurhercule 7 ай бұрын
I was going to mention that C shaped D chord when you were talking about barre chords, it's the only one that I have trouble switching to quickly. Like when you need it for one of the arpeggios in As Tears Go By.
@michaelvarney.
@michaelvarney. 7 ай бұрын
Zombie Guitar’s video is actually quite good… as is that other chick’s video.
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
Brian Kelly is awesome
@wyrdegebraecon
@wyrdegebraecon 7 ай бұрын
great explanations as always, Brandon
@billowspillow
@billowspillow 7 ай бұрын
Is it? He doesn’t seem to actually understand what the CAGED system is for.
@martinfendt1305
@martinfendt1305 3 ай бұрын
Brandon fails to relate them to the intervals -- root, third and fifth. From which you can link all across the fretboard. The intervals also allow you construct all the surrounding scales.
@liang1935
@liang1935 7 ай бұрын
Major to Minor in cage system, from my understanding, is just one shape shift backwards in CAGED . E.g., C shape major is overlapped with the G shape minor. But the root note is not at the positions as they are in major chords. But the shape still hold.
@patmurphy7266
@patmurphy7266 6 ай бұрын
Is this why as a Jazz musician, coming new to guitar - I see all those other ads and such, you know the ones, on the CAGED system and think all they do is get mad and salty and smoke cigarettes? 😂 My private lesson instructor was shocked when he learned I learned the C-major scale from 8th fret up low E before I did anything 😂 and I didn’t know pentatonics on a guitar, but I know the notes, especially in C-Major. So, I just put them together lol 😂
@jameswilliford5478
@jameswilliford5478 Ай бұрын
The CAGED is excellent information and definitely opened my eyes as a beginner on how to play cords up and down the fretboard. I would think all beginner/intermediate players could definitely use it to get a better understanding of the fretboard
@stevenpalty2027
@stevenpalty2027 7 ай бұрын
I've been playing for 50 years. What they now describe as the CAGED system is something I figured out on my own through exploring the neck and trying to understand it. Movable chord shapes are something I show to a beginner. There's no magic or mystery to it. But a pro level player shouldn't be limited by the restrictions of any system. You should be able to build any chord anywhere on the neck. I learned a lot about that from a friend of mine who I used to study with. His name was Ted Greene.
@lalolanda3996
@lalolanda3996 6 ай бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing. I'm 27 and I've been playing since I was like 11 or something. I googled last year what the caged was and I already kinda knew it. when you learn the B chord and realize it's the good old A chord two frets apart, thats it.
@brianbergmusic5288
@brianbergmusic5288 6 ай бұрын
Fingerstyle people seem to discover similar principles of the CAGED system BY ACCIDENT (once you see the shapes from the cowboy chords being moved up with barre chords). I did in my fingerstyle days. For scalar, playing, however, I started using graph paper and created a bunch of intermediate and overlapping shapes that transpose the grid to any key you wish without needing form-fitting puzzle pieces. Then, if you can play 3NPS scales, you've made an additional step towards mastery. THEN play triads vertically across the neck in various string combos and that's the next logical step. Once you've made that step, you realize that CAGED is merely a set of highway signs; not a rulebook. I don't understand the hate of the CAGED system. It's like complaining about learning your NON-cursive alphabet on 3-lined paper because it isn't *immediately* teaching cursive or calligraphy.
@jameswilliford5478
@jameswilliford5478 Ай бұрын
I would think anyone that doesn't know it might be a beginner or inexperienced...so I would take that comment with a grain of salt
@Chris-ln1wy
@Chris-ln1wy 7 ай бұрын
Ya make a video of doing the thing you said at the end
@rileyoneal775
@rileyoneal775 7 ай бұрын
I agree with this, do it or YOU'RE ON CIGARETTES
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 7 ай бұрын
And there was me thinking that "if you're an intermediate player relying ion the CAGED system" was going to end with "*THEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY A BEGINNER.*".
@lucasfigueroa1602
@lucasfigueroa1602 7 ай бұрын
last year i learnt it because they told me it was "magical", yes it helped me understanding other stuff i knew before i actually learned good music theory, but yeah, its really flawed but it kinda works, me learning both the minor and major scales helped me more
@LunatiqueRob
@LunatiqueRob 7 ай бұрын
What you described is not how I learned the CAGED system (something I figured out on my own before I had heard of it) or how I teach it to students. I basically mapped out the best way to play the major scale with 4-frets per position (or close to it) all over the neck and discovered there were 5 different shapes that would repeat and cover the entire fretboard, and then later when I came across the CAGED system I recognized those five shapes I had discovered on my own. It's extremely helpful when improvising because I will listen to the music and then decide where I want to jump in, and as soon as I play the first note, I'll figure out what shape I'm in as quickly as possible (usually it only takes a second or two), and that will orient me on the fretboard. So if I happen to be in the D shape, I know to the left will be the E shape and to the right will be the C shape.
@andrewfrancis7739
@andrewfrancis7739 7 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes!!! The caged system is flawless as far as ORIENTATING yourself on the fretboard goes. It instantly and seamlessly puts you in the pentatonic shape of any major or minor chord. This video is a disservice to people learning how to improvise.
@joestrobe5318
@joestrobe5318 7 ай бұрын
Sure! I'd like to see a vid on how to use CAGED for solos along with your better idea for that.
@paulydltvideos
@paulydltvideos 2 ай бұрын
bruh the 30 to 1hr videos on this IS HILARIOUS
@Sensei.shonuff
@Sensei.shonuff 7 ай бұрын
And yes id like to know how to apply the cage system to soloing because getting good at playing chord changes is the bane of my existence
@1-eye-willy
@1-eye-willy 6 ай бұрын
the caged system never clicked with me, id rather brute force chords and scales until i can do them in my sleep
@thepostapocalyptictrio4762
@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 5 ай бұрын
CAGED is great for minor. It easy to build great minor frameworks to play with but as you noted, you have to clear what note of the chord/scale your playing to get best results.
@Sensei.shonuff
@Sensei.shonuff 7 ай бұрын
Brandon the gojo satorou of guitar Unmatched chad energy
@stin397
@stin397 7 ай бұрын
I've also been trying to figure out how the CAGED system is useful for soloing and improvisation so your take would be very helpful
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
Each shape falls perfectly into a pentatonic position (& diatonic) .. so if you can see the shapes you can identify the chord tones that will sound perfect
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
Check out Zombie Guitars video on the CAGED system. Brian kelly has many years of experience and is a great teacher
@LOWKEYDANGER
@LOWKEYDANGER 7 ай бұрын
Finally explained properly
@jordanjacobs3700
@jordanjacobs3700 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying the caged system to get better at soloing and improvisation. Would it be more better to learn the arpeggios of a chord across the neck instead of caged positions?
@strawberryfieldsforever91
@strawberryfieldsforever91 7 ай бұрын
No.
@andrewfrancis7739
@andrewfrancis7739 7 ай бұрын
Learn caged my friend.
@brandonnewyork11
@brandonnewyork11 6 ай бұрын
Bro the arpeggios are sitting in each CAGED shape for any chord lol
@Bladavia
@Bladavia 7 ай бұрын
Honestly it helped me understand a lot of stuff about the guitar, it's a good starting point to learn the fretboard, but you have to move on from it pretty fast yeah, and learn actual triads. Also it should be called the CAGE system, because the C and D shapes are the same.
@darkonation
@darkonation 7 ай бұрын
Any video with you talking to me like I’m an asshole, is PERFECT. 👍 So, yes please. A video using the caged system with solos would be great…. I barely know what that is so…. here we are. 🫡
@louiemarkdomingo
@louiemarkdomingo 7 ай бұрын
So thats CAGED system, im practically doing it without knowing this CAGED system.
@PushedBox
@PushedBox 3 күн бұрын
When I started playing guitar about 20 years ago I have no internets so all that "chord shapes" was obvious things when I learned classic chord shapes and just move them up and down the neck and it gives different chords. When seen "that caged system" first thought I got was "...and how you will play Cm with that?"
@CousinPaddy
@CousinPaddy 7 ай бұрын
The only thing I’ve found useful about CAGED is teaching E and A shapes so that my students can learn bar chords. Otherwise it’s trash.
@jacksampsonforever
@jacksampsonforever 7 ай бұрын
Using the clues Brandon left in this video, i have determined B is OVER 24 years old
@CapybaraASMR9
@CapybaraASMR9 7 ай бұрын
He's clearly in his mid to late 20s, I don't know why he makes a big deal out of an age reveal. He's a generic ass young adult white dude.
@nickspeyer8742
@nickspeyer8742 7 ай бұрын
CAGED is amazingly useful for your pentatonic boxes, octaves, and scales when you fill in your whole scales off of the framework. This was a useful video that just scratches the surface. CAGED explains your root positions for each of your F-aulty chords you just played, I can know the notes but the positions are butter it’s how the greats “know” 1000s of songs not based on the notes but being in the slot in position, and knowing every other note position based off the root and the key. Yes do that next video I’ll be having a cigarette while I wait
@aglestash
@aglestash 6 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on how to learn the triad shapes? Or just a triad video in general?
@G_Demolished
@G_Demolished 7 ай бұрын
Caged system sucks, learn your triads! Caged: literally a system for learning your triads. 🤦‍♂️
@paulgilbert3139
@paulgilbert3139 6 ай бұрын
Actually martin miller was talking about this topic, and he explained the important of caged system, and how underated this system amongst guitarists. And guess what Martin miller is > than this guy.
@ThomasJMusic86
@ThomasJMusic86 Ай бұрын
This is exactly how I learned it back in my day. Is CAGED a recent teaching method? Someone asked me about it recently, so I had to look up what it is. I personally think the idea of naming the shapes just creates a ton of confusion, but if it works for others, then that’s cool.
@redglove7748
@redglove7748 Ай бұрын
CAGED was first mention in 1975
@ThomasJMusic86
@ThomasJMusic86 Ай бұрын
@@redglove7748 Wow! That’s wild. I have no idea why I never heard of it when I was learning. Thanks for responding with that info.
@eastvillageguitarmethoddd
@eastvillageguitarmethoddd 6 ай бұрын
Joe pass invented the CAGED system. I think he knows a thing or two about the guitar
@PauloRicardo-fc4li
@PauloRicardo-fc4li 3 ай бұрын
Nah. Since the guitar was invented good players knew about this.
@ScoobyDoo-kt9pv
@ScoobyDoo-kt9pv 5 ай бұрын
What would you do differently to point out chord tones when soloing? I use the caged system for remembering how to play the rhythm aspect while soloing a little like Hendrix, no not the same style or as good - or is it - but you understand. When looking for chord tones I’m guilty of simply feeling the note.
@johngriffon2118
@johngriffon2118 7 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you went with Dflat instead of C# etc on the chord naming? Personal choice or is there a theory thought process behind it/ does it even matter? I need to know so i can get off the cigarettes 🚬
@oliverklosof
@oliverklosof 3 ай бұрын
mfw i opened a bunch of caged videos from search in new tabs, happen to watch this one first because it's shortest, and he immediately calls out the other videos i opened as unnecessarily long
@billowspillow
@billowspillow 3 ай бұрын
The irony is that he bashes the CAGED system here, and then teaches it under a different name elsewhere (the 5 positions). This guy is either a fool or a liar.
@ismotheis
@ismotheis 8 күн бұрын
haha you crack me up dude subbed
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549 6 ай бұрын
Also, I agree cage system is great for major cords but basically useless for minor cords. What about seven cords? What about minor seven chords what about ninth chords? What about knife chords ninth 13th chord you just gotta learn your shit man.
@christoffernerheimwith1692
@christoffernerheimwith1692 6 ай бұрын
Well, i think guthrie govan explains caged system much better. It is much more than this. Look up when guthrie talks about playing in the style of hendrix. I suspect the caged system is still a part of guthrie's musical vocabulary. It probably just means that most of us haven't properly figured it out. And i think it truly shows that the caged system doesn't suck, but we do
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549
@isaiahneilguitaristofficia549 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only that when he is going up chromatically to D that he says Db instead of C#… # raises pitches a b lowers pitches… yes I know they are enharmonic, and it doesn’t really matter, just I noticed It and I always call a Bb a Bb never a A#..however I know what anyone is talking about when they say a Bb or Db…
@nquerosaber
@nquerosaber 28 күн бұрын
CAGED is also very redundant, just look up the charts the shapes C + A, G + E, D + C, G + A and E + D they all are basically unions from each other the only difference from each triad is a single note lower or higher the only shapes that reallly distinguishs from each other are A, E and D shapes, because they share fewer unison and covers more range on the fretboard
@MatteoPrefumo
@MatteoPrefumo 8 күн бұрын
I play guitar since I was 6 and I discovered only a year ago the existence of the CAGED system (i am serious lol)...To me it's really a problematic approach because people focus on the geometric form of the chord and not on the notes and what them represent in function of the chord.
@storytimesongs1
@storytimesongs1 7 ай бұрын
I’m confused as to how Dm to Cm breaking the rule of the highest fret becoming the lowest fret is any different than D Major to C Major? The exact same rule is broken in both cases.
@JuanG2020
@JuanG2020 7 ай бұрын
So instead of the CAGED system, is it better to focus on triads?
@dylanwojo
@dylanwojo 27 күн бұрын
CAGED has been the absolute best system for me to learn the fretboard. At least when looking at the majorr chords it allows you to easily map where every 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th is on the fretboard, allowing you to easily fill in whichever scale you want to play and really visualize what you're doing. As long as you apply all these other concepts and only use it as a framework for how you see the fretboard I think it is an amazing tool. If you are only using it for chord voicing then yeah it's pretty weak
@oevoc5051
@oevoc5051 7 ай бұрын
The problem with the caged system it leaves out all sharps and flats and that’s the bread and butter
@corneliusrawness
@corneliusrawness 7 ай бұрын
wtf are you talking about that's not even true lmao
@CapybaraASMR9
@CapybaraASMR9 7 ай бұрын
can you explain? maybe you mean it doesnt allow it to go outside the major scale? thats not true cause the same shapes apply when you borrow from another mode, you just have to know what to change. You can get quick at it with experience.
@matthewbrenn8307
@matthewbrenn8307 7 ай бұрын
WRONG!
@francinebacone1455
@francinebacone1455 7 ай бұрын
you mean the intervals dawg
@oevoc5051
@oevoc5051 5 ай бұрын
@@corneliusrawness it depends on the key of course, I see a guitar teacher in person and they told me the caged system is bs
@theqrm
@theqrm 7 ай бұрын
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@francinebacone1455
@francinebacone1455 7 ай бұрын
It is a useful acronym for telling you the *order* of the chord shape inversions going up the neck in a given key. That's about it.
@angellovesjazz
@angellovesjazz 2 ай бұрын
I never even heard of CAGED when I started in early 2000s when I finally did I dismissed it because I aready recognized how the shapes moved 😄 Its definitely popular every where these days. I dont hate it. Maybe I dismissed it too soon?
@VitaliBeneke
@VitaliBeneke 3 ай бұрын
CAGED system always seemed something made for people who for some reason desperately want to avoid learning extremely basic music theory. Props to Joe Pass, but it is much simpler just to learn the 1-3-5 formula for triads. Just apply that to any scale. No weird exceptions for minor chords.
@Johnmajong
@Johnmajong 2 ай бұрын
Bro, that’s what’s caged is all about lol
@impostergaming2495
@impostergaming2495 6 ай бұрын
finally someone's there who didn't ruin caged with a 30 min video 😂
@ccaa7674
@ccaa7674 Ай бұрын
So it's just barre chords? Woaaaah 😮
@HakfkaOakfnqkd
@HakfkaOakfnqkd 6 ай бұрын
I did not even know this existed before this video😅
@travisbickle3835
@travisbickle3835 3 ай бұрын
bro my brain isn't brainin ngl
@jvsings9146
@jvsings9146 Ай бұрын
Shits on the caged system then proceeds to show you how to play an F chord using triads of the same caged shapes from previous. This guy must be on cigarettes.
@anthonyjones7264
@anthonyjones7264 6 ай бұрын
As someone learning the fretboard wouldn't the caged system help with learning the fretboard and the notes. As a beginner I actually see the point of learning the make up of the notes. Mostly you just gotta practice and play. I have been giving a month to each Minor penatonic scale to fully learn it and practice it ALOT.
@Chris-w4j
@Chris-w4j 6 ай бұрын
The best explaintation of the caged system is: its the order of 5 octaves and any information based around those 5 octaves. Every chord, arpeggio and every scale/mode. Also, its an easy strategy for beginners to understand. Ted Greene wrote a whole encyclopedia for guitar based on the 5 root positions aka CAGED. seriously, you cant finger that E minor chord?
@LaTrec9
@LaTrec9 7 ай бұрын
GOOD JOB 👍 👍 👍 ❤
@Broski566
@Broski566 6 ай бұрын
Yes I would love to know how to use it for solo
@markosliodakis9436
@markosliodakis9436 7 ай бұрын
give the solo knowledge
@joebermuda6452
@joebermuda6452 6 ай бұрын
Three notes per string is by far the better system and much more fluid
@stuartlawler2411
@stuartlawler2411 26 күн бұрын
I don't use the CAGED system but everybody in this section and Brandon himself don't seem to realize that everybody has a different memory...the CAGED system actually stems from acoustic blues and is perfectly applicable in this context.
@diegofarje1814
@diegofarje1814 7 ай бұрын
The caged system doesn’t work for minors. Ok, but you can think about them as the relative major of whatever minor key you are
@yellownoiseclub
@yellownoiseclub 7 ай бұрын
It's only meant for open chords
@tjames6427
@tjames6427 5 ай бұрын
What people should really be teaching first is the chords in their alphabetical order and not starting people out with a 1 4 5 just because it sounds good lol also I want to mention that the fender tuner app is great and has many good learning resources that come with it like interactive chord charts and drum beats. All free right now when you sign in.
@zacfarris5674
@zacfarris5674 7 ай бұрын
I bet he is 28 years old
@Super_duel
@Super_duel 7 ай бұрын
Day 5 of asking Brandon to explain relative minor theory
@MusicLabs234
@MusicLabs234 7 ай бұрын
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