The Caine Mutiny (1954) - The Mutiny Scene (6/9) | Movieclips

[@Daud76]

Scrap computer animation and what nots. This scene you can really feel the storm raging outside. It has aged flawlessly.

[@kevinlavery6985]

And the storm raging inside too.

[@Daud76]

@@kevinlavery6985 A typhoon in all their minds....

[@JT29501]

Agree its nice although there is quite a discrepancy between how the model is being thrown about and the slight jostling of the guys on the bridge.. they should be practically on the floor with that level of swell!

[@ms.annthrope415]

Bogart was always thought of as a film noire heavy and no more but here his acting chops explodes with authenticity. One can only watch this with utterly respect for Bogie's acting level.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

And no more? Bogie is regarded as one of the greatest screen personas in Hollywood history.

[@ericseal4453]

One of the best scenes in the movie!! Poor Van Johnson! Relieving his commanding officer must have taken an enormous amount of intestinal fortitude! But its literally surviving or sinking!!

[@newjeffersonian6456]

Hey, it's all fiction - not a documentary. Van Johnson is only acting a role. He's not actually leading a mutiny.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

I felt bad for the captain too. It must have been terribly embarrassing

[@aaronlobliner7402]

Ehh, the caine was going to be ok, had merrick/van johnssons brass balls as ballast ;). I do love how from a social dynamics perspective, queeg lost it, and you cant in a moment like that, and merrick had to step up and fill the power void

[@bobcohoon9615]

Typhoons like that have sunk destroyers before

[@mikerieck306]

Everybody forgets how great Bogart was in this movie.

[@guysalzmann9302]

How do you reach that conclusion? Think universal agreement Bogart stellar. Now the real deal was Jose Ferrer!

[@mikerieck306]

@@guysalzmann9302 Bogart received so much acclaim for so many other films I think this one gets lost in sauce. I am certainly not knocking his performance. The strawberry scene with him buttering his toast is a personal favorite.

[@jamespfitz]

Now which one is Borgart, again?

[@doriangray2020]

@@jamespfitz the that looks like your dad when he’s drunk.

[@plasticweapon]

nobody forgets.

[@ericthompson749]

Saw this movie on PBS a few weeks back and man this is a pretty good movie.

[@contractmed1]

It's one of my top 20 favorites.

[@actioncom2748]

Notice how he finally snapped out of it when somebody defied him.

[@michaelschramm1064]

Hence the ambiguity of who is culpable that ensues in the court room when the ship returns to port.

[@zacharycat603]

He seems relieved when he no longer has the pressure of command.

[@plasticweapon]

of course.

[@cedricbeard4609]

Yeah, but he snapped back in it, when he was cross examined. One of the best films at showing differing perspectives, a lot of the same basic elements that make for good twists endings.

[@bobrunge7594]

I was in the Navy and on a destroyer in the North Atlantic, when we got caught in a storm like this. The deck tilt indicator crossed the PNR (point of no return) position often. Had all you could do to keep the ship from foundering. I turned to the Captain and said…. “If I was supposed to live like this… I’d have web feet and my head could turn backwards!”…. His reply…? A smile… he knew it, too.

[@yanni2112]

I was on a Fast Frigate, we rode even worse.

[@charlesoppland7778]

Sailors take orders from the sea. First and foremost. She’s in charge, act accordingly.

[@ModMokkaMatti]

"Act accordingly, *beloved."* - Cody Krone, aka WankerShart, 21st century paranoid-schizophrenic "KZbin social media 'influencer'"/cult leader 😆

[@RonaldoSanchez-g1y]

my dad was a master chief, he told me once his ship was rolled 40 degrees side to side in a storm off Norfolk in the late 60s, worst storm in his entire service.

[@oldgoat142]

I tell you what, regardless of how it was done, this storm exemplifies the power of nature over man-made objects like ships. Any sailor who's ever been in a serious gale knows what I'm talking about. This is a terrific movie, one of my all-time favorites. The tension is unbelievable. The guts it takes to take that last step to relieve a CO, crazy or not, is life altering. Great scene by an all-star cast.

[@krismurphy7711]

There were two big hurricanes which hit the Pacific Fleet....sinking a number of ships....damaging many. My Dad's ship, an Essex Class Fleet Carrier has the front end flight deck collapse. (USS Bennington)

[@LordZontar]

My dad was in a spot like this: rode out a typhoon in November of '45 in a DMS, a dinky 2200 ton tincan. He was a ship's oiler, which meant he was deep in the engineering deck. If the ship had cracked up on the surface, he would never have stood a chance.

[@clauderobotham6261]

What incredibly intense and credible acting by all, even the enlisted crew members who had such a small role. Enthralling.

[@sheelakarsten4679]

No B.S., just real acting by some of the finest of the day!!!

[@lkgrave4959]

This scene is partially based on what happened when Task Force 38 encountered Typhoon Cobra in 1944.

[@GeorgeFrei-g4l]

Yes it accurately portrays that scene! On the night of December 7, 1941, Halsey had sent six navy fighters to conduct a recon of the Pearl Harbor facilities and land at Kaneohe Naval Air Station on Ford Island. He had been advised not to do so as the defenders might think they were returning Japanese air units and shoot them down, but Halsey insisted. All of the aircraft were shot down with only one survivor. The incident recreated in The Caine Mutiny occurred because Fleet Admiral William Halsey refused to take the advice of his ship's captain and other knowledgable officers to alter course but ordered that the fleet maintain it's course. Because of the decision, three destroyers and seven hundred men were lost. On August 16, 1945, Halsey was told that it would be advisable to suspend combat air patrols over Japan, especially Tokyo, for a few days as Japan had just surrendered on August 15th and the stand-down order might have not reached all Japanese air units. Halsey sent a combat air recon patrol of four Navy fighters to patrol the Tokyo area and they were intercepted/shot down by a Japanese air unit of twenty fighters. The same day, General of The Army Douglas MacArthur ordered the U S Army Air Force commander on Tinian to send a B-32 recon bomber over Japan in order to photograph which Japanese airfields would be most suitable to airlift U S occupation troops into Japan. Despite warnings from senior Air Force officers that the stand-down order might have not reached all Japanese air units. He had also been informed as had Halsey that Japan might use the occasion to take revenge for the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki(Aug 6 and 9, 1945). This fact plus the massacre of American and allied prisoners of war ordered by Emperor Hirohito were confirmed in a few weeks but ignored in consideration of not extending the war. MacArthur ordered the flight to take place and it was attacked by two Japanese naval fighters with one crew members being killed. These five men, four navy and one army, were the last Americans killed in World War II. Neighter Halsey or MacArthur were tried, repremanded or retired as a result of the incidents...the incidents were covered up by order of Presidents Roosevelt and Truman.

[@davidlarson9975]

Rode out typhoon Rose during the night on DE 1057, The Rathburne. One heck of a ride. I think it was 1971. It ran our supply ship aground. Check out photo of USS Regulus , Typhoon Rose. The Regulus had an armor belt [ torpedo belt] running down the sides. Twisted the hull.

[@slcRN1971]

WHOA‼️🤯

[@lawrencelewis2592]

In the book, the Caine passes the upside-down hull of a capsized destroyer. I think that may have been a factor that led to Maryk's decision.

[@j_scee6819]

All I can say is it's a good thing Keefer wasn't Officer of the Deck.

[@marianofernandez6470]

I got those Yellow Stain Blues those silly Yellow Stain Blues When someone fires a shot it's always there that I'm not I got those Yellow Stain Blues Those Yellow Stain Blues (Those Yellow Stain Blues...) I got those Yellow Stain Blues Down from my head to my shoes Oh you should see strong men quail If he should spy a shirt tail I got those Yellow Stain Blues Those Yellow Stain Blues (Those Yellow Stain Blues...)

[@Daud76]

Those yellow stain blooooos.... 😄

[@DoIGetTube]

The lyrics to "Yellowstain Blues" were written by Herman Wouk himself, in "The 'Caine' Mutiny's" novel text.

[@Orphen42O]

In the 1950's, there was a tendency to cast actors that are much too old for their parts. Fred MacMurray and Van Johnson are supposed to be young officers. Frankly, they look old enough to be the fathers of the characters.

[@tommym321]

Totally.

[@slcRN1971]

Just like in ‘Mr. Roberts’, Henry Fonda had been doing the play for a long time and when it was to be a movie- - he even said that he was too old. Yet because he knew this part by heart and was definitely very great too, he was cast. The just got older actors to play many other parts. Jack Lemmon was one of the younger actors and what a fabulous performance by him also!! FYI: it’s a truly great film, that I’ve watched many times.

[@davidlarson9975]

Actually, it's accurate. This was during WW2. Servicemen, previously enlisted, but long discharged were called back into service, often as junior officers. Men were being drafted up to age 35. Older men, many of them college grads and feeling patriotic, were enlisting to do their part for their country. They would be given, because of their education, commissions as officers. Attitudes have drastically changed in this country.

[@MaizeAndBlueWahoo]

Van Johnson was 37 when the movie came out. This is just about exactly the right age for an XO.

[@siegridthomas9674]

THERE is NOTHING wrong with this movie...young people should not comment, they were not born at that time...thank you

[@rixx46]

Interesting that this film highlighted Johnson's scars (from a car accident in the 40s) rather than hiding them with lighting and makeup like they usually do. Gave him an edgier look. I worked with him in the 80s - nice, funny guy. In person, the scars and the dent in his head was very evident.

[@steveconkey7362]

He's still wearing makeup to cover most of it. In the final scene after trial where they are all together and Ferrer dresses them down you will notice he is wearing no makeup at all to show how flawed they all were.

[@terrorsaur599]

I love how the pupils in Bogart’s eyes are barely visible. Really makes it look like his character has gone mad.

[@robertmorris8997]

What would have made this better is a bunch of crappy CGI.

[@Torcularis.Septentrionalis]

Great movie, and the book is even better

[@movieklump]

Took a lot of courage to take control of that Airfix kit ship.

[@sophistichistory4645]

"I'M TAKING CONTROL OF THE SHIP!! SET THE CAPTAIN ADRIFT!!!......Oh, wait.......wrong mutiny."

[@jerryavalos9610]

I would of at first pleaded with the Captain to keep on the course to keep the ship from floundering and then return the ship immediately to its original course once the danger passed.

[@LordZontar]

That is exactly what Maryk did. His decision to relieve Queeg came after the Captain had refused both to take on extra ballast and to manoeuver for the safety of the ship, insisting they remain on course 180 regardless of the danger of having the wind at their tails. Then Queeg froze just as the ship came close to broaching. At that point, Maryk no longer had any choice in the matter.

[@gregford2103]

I remember Jose Ferrer's character insisting the incident in the typhoon wouldn't have occurred in Maryk and the other officers had stayed loyal to Queeg following the "yellowstain" incident earlier in the movie. However, I disagree, because Queeg, at least the way he's portrayed here, was suffering from battle fatigue and was on the verge of a breakdown. I think Maryk still would have had to relieve him.

[@majorlagg9321]

Queeg said he started to think the Uboats were after him personally. Evidently, some brass in the Atlantic fleet decided to push a problem onto the Pacific fleet rather than deal with it.

[@brucetucker4847]

Agreed. Not to mention, Queeg had made it nearly impossible for his officers to help him by chewing out and ridiculing anyone who disagreed with him on anything, even politely and not in front of the men. Think about the tow line incident - the helmsman tried to warn Queeg but he not only refused to listen, he threatened him with punishment if he said another word. That is a colossally stupid - or insane - thing to say to the helmsman.

[@thomastarwater2989]

The remarkable special effects depicting the U.S.S. Caine being caught up in the typhoon, large waves and all, were supervised by Lawrence Butler who was in charge of Columbia Picture’s’ effects department. He worked on THE THIEF OF BAGDAD (1940) and MAROONED (1969), both Oscar winners in the Best Visual Effects category. Butler’s other features, THE JUNGLE BOOK (1942) and A THOUSAND AND ONE NIGHTS (1945), picked up Oscar nominations for their respective visual effects.

[@tow1709]

@@brucetucker4847 In the book, no-one tries to warn the captain about the towline. Stilwell the helmsman decides to remain silent.

[@dwaynesbadchemicals]

There aren’t any screws visible when the bow pitches above the water. Nevertheless, a great film.

[@tow1709]

The screws are at the stern (blunt) end, not the bow (sharp) end.

[@krismurphy7711]

Can we agree Queeg was a coward? Certainly as portrayed in the movie, hiding and not in command during an opposed landing....then literally running away from his ordered job of escorting (shielding) the vulnerable landing craft FILLED WITH TROOPS. ANY normal Captain would have led those landing craft as far as ordered and probably further, closer to the beach. I would have been tempted to slow to a stop when my bow touched bottom....and then distracted the defending troops and adding point blank firepower. QUEEG CHICKENED OUT.

[@simonanderson1433]

Agree. It's weird how quickly viewers seem to forget or ignore this. More interested in making an antagonist out of Keefer per the indulgent sanctimony of Greenwald

[@krismurphy7711]

@@simonanderson1433 Keefer was a low down coward. I pity Queeg...I despise Keefer. In The Service...In war...there is no time for cowards, no matter their type.

[@coffeecocaine8878]

Thanks Mike from breaking bad for showing me this scene lol

[@tnsampson2]

Funny that tough guys Bogart and Cagney played roles as Navy Captains, and both were outstanding in their portrayals. Just marvelous acting abilities; too little of that these days.

[@331SVTCobra]

The book was an excellent read. Watch the movie first, it's ok. Then read the book. Hollywood should make a miniseries from the book. Better yet, the Brits should... they make better movies.

[@douglaslally156]

This film needs a remake. The original script was cut by 50 pages so it could be shown with a 2 hour runtime. Much of the shipboard and courtroom action was deleted. Hollywood needs to give it it's proper treatment.

[@normanbraslow7902]

Douglas Lally, absolutely. A short mini series.

[@douglaslally156]

@Laura Streeter The scenes were deleted from the screenplay and were never filmed.

[@normanbraslow7902]

Douglas Lally, this is one movie that should be re-done. This one just is not very good as a whole, even though Bogart was great.

[@angusthecat1689]

if they do a remake there is no doubt in my mind it would be horseshit. hollywood sucks in 2020

[@normanbraslow7902]

angus the cat, I'd agree, they would ruin it very well.

[@electrician248]

Years ago I was in the Navy. I was assigned to a FFG, or fast Frigate and found ourselves in a HORRIBLE storm in the sea of Japan. Everybody, including the old salty chiefs were puking! Several times the bow would plunge into a wave. The stern would come out of the water exposing the stern. The propellor blades would slap the water making the whole ship vibrate. I have to say that everybody was a bit scared the storm was that violent.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Keifer is reminiscent of present day politicians.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

The captain was a nutcase I had been a nutcase for quite some time I’m a United States Navy veteran myself and I’m here to tell you they don’t ever want it to look bad bad on any type of naval officer but the fact is that they not listen to the executive officer they would’ve all died what would’ve happened then?

[@BiffJackson-o4i]

Never understood the ending of this movie where they basically exonerate him and the officer's lawyer slams them for what they did. He went cuckoo and the officers did the right thing.

[@Krzyszczynski]

IIRC Lt Keefer was subtly winding Queeg up throughout the voyage (I forget why). That's why he copped the wine in the face. The others just got a roasting for letting it all happen and not properly supporting their captain.

[@steveconkey7362]

@@Krzyszczynski They left it out of the movie but Keefer hated Queeg for not letting him off the ship to see his brother on a different ship in port. The next day his brother died in battle. They should have left it in to give more context as to why he was winding him up.

[@krismurphy7711]

AND.... the Defense Lawyer did EXACTLY what needed to be done....got Queeg to the point he was at on more than one occasion....and at the point he was at when relieved. Barney didn't torpedo Queeg, he simply brought out THE TRUTH.

[@thewkovacs316]

explain to me how this scene changes if the officers had accepted queeg's offer to provide him help he clearly was unfit for command

[@avae5343]

I think its a fairly weak position of Greenwald, to blame the senior officers for not helping Queeg. It’s already established that the Captain doesn’t care for their opinion and if he isn’t able to handle the crews insubordination then he shouldn’t have been the commanding officer.

[@thewkovacs316]

@@avae5343 i am ashamed to say that i have never read the novel, but i have seen both takes on the play. in the courtroom drama, queeg lies and greenwald catches him in the lies. and yet, greenwald still blames the officers for what happened to queeq....ignoring that queeq, for whatever reason, is a deeply flawed man who never should have had command of the caine

[@avae5343]

@@thewkovacs316 The truth is that it is the Captains job to instill discipline into senior officers, their job is to instill discipline onto the crew. Queeg would have gotten them all killed if the bridge crew didn’t countermand his course. You can’t hold your breath at 160 mph winds and you’d be dragged under the water in a storm like that even if you’re wearing a life jacket.

[@martincruz3174]

Mike cracks open a beer

[@arkwill14]

Not a cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment.

[@johnw8984]

If this was reality he would have been with within his duty as an officer to relieve a captain who was not doing his job in this case it could have resulted in the ship capsizing and sinking. After WWII a fleet of the United States Navy got caught in a typhoon that sunk a few ships I think it was in either 1945 or 1946 the Navy lost quite a few ships and crews.

[@captainobvious9233]

It was during WW2. The U.S lost two destroyers, a lot of aircraft off carriers and several other ships damaged. My Grandfather was in the typhoon on a Heavy Cruiser.

[@hankkingsley2976]

Shoulda just pushed Bogart overboard

[@neilkurzman4907]

That wasn’t in the the script.

[@slcRN1971]

Things like that did happen, rarely.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@slcRN1971 Pretty sure that no US Navy captain has ever been murdered by his own crew.

[@danieltossounian1962]

Poor Stillwell in tne book is also charged but he cracks up and gets committed to an asylum …

[@Benglator1]

Wonder why they would keep that door open during conditions like that? Freaking movies

[@daskritterhaus5491]

never be made today. tom cruise the hero gonna save us not drown us.

[@charleswest6372]

Queen was incompetent.

[@michaelschramm1064]

Queeg

[@michaelschramm1064]

@Prkau telek Long live the Queeg!

[@warrenhoffman2006]

Pence should have been more like Maryk!

[@Xylti]

great stoner movie

[@mikerieck306]

Awesome from a 63 year old. They played this all the time on cable channels in the mid 80's.

[@sce2aux464]

I think what Maryk did stinks.

[@RM-we7px]

If he let Queeg go to 180 ( which he made up, he refused to check with command or radio the situation) the ship would have floundered. He should have tried more tact. Commanded just to get them out of the typhoon. Then stated the captain saved the ship. Giving him the credit. But his ego got in the way. Queeg should have been relieved when he bailed on escorting the Marines.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@RM-we7px That's not certain. As they pointed out in the trial, only three ships out of hundreds in the fleet foundered in the typhoon. And I don't know if they mentioned it in the movie, but he couldn't check with command because the storm had taken out the radio antennas. I seem to remember Maryk saying in the movie that with the radio out they had no way of knowing whether the orders had been changed. One other thing they don't mention in either movie or book is that sailing as part of such a big fleet, turning back and sailing through the fleet in the wrong direction would present a serious risk of collision, especially given the extremely limited visibility and difficulty steering the ship in the storm.

[@avae5343]

@@brucetucker4847Its already established that the Captains judgement is impaired. The bridge crew believe his course is suicide and so steer away from it to save the ship. He’s clearly cracking in this scene and he was cracking in the landing scene. He’d have gotten them all killed.

[@angloaust1575]

Not ever having a bounty situation The americans had to create one

[@plasticweapon]

cool.

[@BurnedSpace]

because we have the best and most advanced navy the world has ever seen…

[@captainobvious9233]

Really? How you that sad... that pathetic.. that desperate to take a jab at Americans that you have to make fun of them over a book/movie based on a Mutiny? It must truly suck to be your parents. What a sad.... sad life.

[@stvdagger8074]

There was the USS Somers affair in 1842. A midshipman was going to lead some of the crew into taking over the ship. One of the men he approached told the Captain of the plot. The Captain seized the ringleaders, held a quick trial and hung 3 of them.

[@TomSwift-wy1gx]

The US Navy (and other services) have had mass mutinies. They are kept quiet. They are studied in some advanced officer training courses.