The Cars of Max Payne 3

[@nemysyys2285]

Bronte waiting for max to come save him Max: 🚗🚓🚕

[@GarbageZenna]

😂😂😂

[@tabishhassan2360]

Branco not bronte.

[@tabishhassan2360]

Angelo bronte is one of the antagonists in red dead redemption 2, while in max payne 3 max is trying to save Rodrigo branco.

[@nemysyys2285]

@@tabishhassan2360 My b i did just finish a playthough of rdr2 lol

[@The_Fox404]

​@@nemysyys2285Angelo Bronte in Max Payne 3 confirmed no virus punjabi 100 real?

[@FangTheWerewolf]

That car body roll is EXTREMELY impressive, arguably on the same level as GTA 4's physics.

[@Speed4Runs]

It looks even better tbh

[@KingJohnMichael]

That's not how cars behave in real life 😂

[@Arcaged]

@@KingJohnMichael it is tho, especially old cars.

[@SomeGuy_Somewhere]

Have you ever driven a car?

[@cxeroannuki2840]

@@SomeGuy_Somewhere this is realistic if you think an economy sedan bounces around like a 70's land yacht even at low speeds. hell, every 70's car i've driven actually has LESS. gta v went too far in the opposite direction, but it's pretty obvious they were trying too hard to show it off when in gta iv

[@Daniel332]

Looks like gta 4 physics

[@GarbageZenna]

Somewhere between GTA 4 and 5. It’s all the RAGE Engine but considering cars were never meant to be driven, it’d make sense they didn’t mess around with character driving much, or even at all, for MP3.

[@dawn7020]

so after 4, and in the middle of max payne it seems they threw out the realistic physics from 4, and replaced it with the goofy arcade physics we see in 5, what was rockstar on? cause i want what they were on.

[@thebalauru3602]

​@@dawn7020well, what we see here(this mix between 4 and 5 physics) is what I think would please the vast majority of players for gta 6. Personally I preffer gta4's handling instead of that lunacy in 5.

[@sleepy_killer]

​@@dawn70205's aren't goofy arcade physics they are a downgrade

[@someguy8951]

​@@dawn7020 Hope you realise that V's physics are similar to the 3D titles, where no one complained about the arcadey physics.

[@thebalauru3602]

Tried this mod last week myself. Even the brake/emergency lights are functional. I was impressed

[@xSpicySaltx]

FUN FACT!! Cars on this version of max payne, techinically uses the framework physics of GTA IV. so thats cool.

[@HeySlickThatsMe]

I'm fairly sure the reason MP3 has proper working vehicles is because it's kind of built from scrapped Agent game (indicated by dozen of it's leftovers in files) which also was supposed to have vehicles, infact it's entire vehicle list is in xbox 360 Max Payne 3 files including handling entries etc, some of these vehicles made it into GTA V like Casco, Enduro, Valkyrie and Savage

[@GarbageZenna]

Agent remains a mystery lost to speculation to most people except R* themselves but everything’s there because Max Payne works off the same RAGE engine every R* game has since Table Tennis.

[@VuBeClan]

@@GarbageZenna Max Payne 3 is built off of the Agent game called "Jimmy", the source code states that Max Payne 3 is literally built from the 'Jimmy' directory. Do more research next time!

[@jvc85]

@@VuBeClan It might very well be but it does not change the fact that MP3 is built on the same RAGE engine as GTA (Or any modern R* game), and to my knowledge so was there no driving mechanics present in the original script files for MP3. The cars physics do really remind of how the cars in IV worked.

[@FVMods]

the handling of vehicles strongly reminds me of GTA 4 instance

[@cjsolution]

Btw GTA V files have Agent leftovers in them. (Image files somewhere)

[@dudeman4514]

ngl i really like how you can tell that the car physics here was based on GTA IV's own physics

[@humanharddrive1]

love stuff like this. I love how you instinctively tried to press F to get out the car and crashed the game. Also ghost world reference. And I love that you got out of the map

[@GarbageZenna]

Yeah, I love that I crashed the game too lol

[@DeagleRay]

Damn, imagine, going from point A slaughtering everyone to point B by car and not a loading screen. Max Payne Reloaded Ultra Grant Theft Auto edition.

[@GarbageZenna]

Maybe doable in some sections like airport exteriors or this parking garage segment honestly

[@JuanGamer0202]

Isnt it funny how a game more than 10yrs old that wasnt supossed to have cars, does it better than a lotta triple A games that are hitting the stores now?

[@fatrat9676]

It’s all because of euphoria physics that are exclusive only to rockstar. Many developers try to replicate it but it’s seems that’s extremely hard to implement such a advanced physics engine into a triple a game. Only rockstar have rights to that wonderful technology and knowledge how to implement it within a game code they’re making.

[@AlphaGarg]

@@fatrat9676 Euphoria doesn't have anything to do with vehicle handling. It's an active ragdoll procedural animation system, not much more than that.

[@fatrat9676]

@@AlphaGarg Everything that include physics manipulation in RAGE is connected and executed by their in brand euphoria system. Cars, your character, enemies, objects and ect.

[@Kamletue]

​​@@fatrat9676Euphoria is not a physics engine. It's more of a plug-in to a physics engine

[@fatrat9676]

@@Kamletue Yes sorry. I was just writing quick. Euphoria is a system of procedural animations reacting to environment implemented into physic engine contained in rage.

[@Sincabello]

I love that Flintstone way of driving the vehicles

[@veombeats]

The Car Physx are something 🔥😍

[@GarbageZenna]

thats a word for it lol

[@solidbhatt]

Were they planning to include cars at some point? Because this looks very detailed

[@GarbageZenna]

Not to my knowledge. Just uses the same RAGE engine as every other R* game since Table Tennis so it’s in the code.

[@alonemax2912]

Maybe they used some GTA code for a car sequence in the end of the game

[@berziimusic]

they were probably using car physics to test for GTA V to save on resources and assets maybe? seeing as some of this games development was used as ground work to test some of the feature functionality in the engine all together.

[@princessmyprincess4284]

Naw it's just the enemy cars u shoot at had the behaviours copy pasted from gta 4

[@DrPandemiczZ]

Believe it or not I think the chase with the bus was meant to be in a car and you was supposed to drive hence the handling.ini being here, it didn’t feel very Max Payne and more GTA so it was forgot early on, but I heard that years ago it’s annoying because I don’t know where from illl try update you’s

[@swagchele]

Emergency lights are straight out of GTA 4 The truck_luxury model is very similar to the GTA 4 cavalcade model and the rear lights on the same model are taken straight from a GTA 4 Stinger.

[@jonimendes4826]

Yes! The police lights look like the ones in gta 4, but it looks slightly better here imo

[@swagchele]

maybe. the way they are animated are exactly as in gta4.@@jonimendes4826

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Isn’t the police car a Chavos. Truck luxury is a Calvalcade with weird light textures.

[@GarbageZenna]

Yeah, essentially.

[@Toxic2T]

yes. gta IV models

[@bringmehardware]

Still better physics than in GTA 5

[@casualgamers3369]

I think Rockstar dumbed down the physics for gta 5 so that people not so good at driving (kids) would have an easier time.

[@SUP3R2069]

@@casualgamers3369no it’s because the Xbox 360 and PS3 couldn’t handle the graphics and physics

[@kul3013]

GTA 5 Mods : ill make that as better as max payne 3

[@bringmehardware]

@@SUP3R2069 I wonder why the didn't improved the physics in PS4/PC ports

[@SUP3R2069]

@@bringmehardware me either, that’s why when Expanded and Enhanced got announced I was hoping they would finally bring back or upgrade the euphoria engine

[@aircraft2]

'truck_luxury' is just a restyled Cavalcade.

[@marciano8619]

3:08 this car looks like the same model as the Victory from Midnight Club 2, very interesting despite being a 2003 model

[@GarbageZenna]

Omg, it’s been so long but you’re right. Now I want replay that and see…I did just download it 🤔

[@balaclavacotidiano4727]

Isn't the badge on the front the red badge for some of the cars that show up in GTA V? I forgot the brand name its supposed to be but I think its an equivalent to Ford.

[@marciano8619]

​@@balaclavacotidiano4727It kinda looks like the Dewbauchee badge since this car is based on a Aston Martin Vanquish S from the mid 2000's

[@Callsign_Ewok]

Bro that is very impressive physics actually i wasn't expecting that.

[@Ooboy]

The emergency lights on the police car are identical to the GTA IV ones.

[@GamesHochZehn]

car_luxury reminds me a little bit at the Sultan from GTA SA Especially the rear end

[@GeorgeValentineIV]

I came to this video, thinking I'd only see props, but to my surprise, I found THIS! Congratulations!!!!! It looks amazing!!!!!!

[@MillywiggZ]

Am I remembering right that the cars in 'Max Payne 3' are all from 'GTA IV', but reduced to just static models but you can still shoot out the glass and maybe tyres.

[@GarbageZenna]

That’s not true at all.

[@MillywiggZ]

@@GarbageZenna I'll put that in the "I made it up" pile then.

[@ClaimerUncut]

@@MillywiggZ lolol

[@xofrx]

0:10 seconds into the video. Does *that* look like a GTAIV car model to you? 😂

[@stanleybochenek1862]

8:28? maybe

[@kraftwerklover69]

Gta 4.5 would’ve looked like this

[@truckertae9725]

Mule and Packer name straight from gta series

[@CJ13x]

Midnight club l.a physics for sure

[@Fearlez_11]

when i play this game on ps3..i thought this was gta4 lmao

[@RandyOrlok]

still better driving than in gta 5

[@Hasanovicc18]

But everyone still play it bruv.

[@Hasanovicc18]

@@riftsalty7562 i know that i also more like gta 4 then gta 5 i wanted to say if people really cared about cars physics they would play gta 4 but people dont give f about it

[@diego_bv199]

This makes me think that Rockstar was planning to make Max Payne an open world game but they changed their mind since it didn't fit the type of game, to focus on Gta V or maybe just to respect its origins with Remedy

[@allancandaza]

Just your presumption only hahahaha

[@GVGames1986]

If you look at Metro Exodus as an example. Different game and developer I know, but that had a bit of open world mixed with on rails story mode.

[@mojojoji5493]

Kinda hate how you don’t really drive any of them just reverse and park

[@thebalauru3602]

7:50 - I never saw the packer in normal gameplay. Not even as a prop.

[@GarbageZenna]

Probably background shots or cutscenes. Vehicles aren’t front and center in MP like GTA so they don’t get the attention. I had that same thing going through them. I’ll probably pay more attention looking for some of these when I do another playthrough.

[@thebalauru3602]

@@GarbageZennaI know exactly what you mean. But I still cant seem to remember to have seen it in the background or otherwise. By the way it looks (delapidated state, unmentained etc.) I suspect this vehicle is supposed to be featured in the favela/river/panama area as a scenary prop/decoration or maybe it was just left unused in the final game, and they didnt remove it from the game's files. Later edit: I checked on max payne wikia and the vehicle indeed doesnt appear anywhere in the game.

[@troev]

camera placement and vehicle physics looks like gta 4

[@Hostile2430]

I have read somewhere that the cancelled R* game Agent have lots of scripts & leftovers files in GTA 5 & Max Payne 3 Maybe in that game we could drive cars during mission Rockstar devs just left them and was testing some driving physics Ive seen so many detailed cars with interior designs and physics like GTA 4, hard to believe they would put so much effort for just props in the game

[@colo2104]

I remember having the car that looks like an Aston Martin as a mod in GTA IV, i had no idea it was drivable in MP3

[@LokoBey]

They actually look sick this is cool!

[@balaclavacotidiano4727]

So is the code for driving in this something that you didn't need to modify? If so is the code some type of reduced GTA IV code or what? How did it even get here? And what about the controls, were they modded in? How was there so much code you can control and even control the armored car turret??!! I have so many questions!!!

[@GarbageZenna]

Everything is there because it’s the same RAGE engine that every R* game has used since Table Tennis

[@DmonDhaBoss]

@@GarbageZennaso can you possibly port some handling code to gta 4 or 5?

[@AngelicaFanGirl]

In my opinion I think Max Payne 3 would have been great as an open world game.

[@FlaccidFella]

What? You think Rockstar could have made a great open world game? Who could have guessed it

[@AngelicaFanGirl]

@@FlaccidFella Jee I don't know. It was the 10M dollar answer if I do say so myself.

[@John-996]

​@@AngelicaFanGirlMaxpayne 3 works really well as a more linear game. Rockstar are smart enough to know which games need an open world and which dont. Manhunt was also not an open world and did not need to be. The Warriers had a hub world and Bully had a small open world. I think Maxpayne 3 being open world would not make sense for the game it is.

[@GVGames1986]

Could have combined both like in the game Metro: Exodus.

[@MyHhobbies]

looks and feels a lot like GTA 4 but upgraded

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

the physics & handling is better than V 😂😂😂😂

[@BretuLauk]

Looks like GTA 4 driving physics 100%

[@gk6018]

4:11 i think one of the earliest BeamNG mods used this car model

[@Harleen-Frances-Quinzel-1992]

We demand an explanation as to why we are doing this in this small parking lot.

[@marisol64647]

Rest in peace James McCaffrey.

[@carlos-m20]

The detective car looks like some 90s brazilian vw

[@GVGames1986]

Max stands like Fred Flintstone!

[@franciszekklintonowski]

Imagine if rockstar adds some of those cars in gta vi

[@HikikomoriDev]

He looks a bit like Michael from GTA.

[@Водка665]

(4:58) They spelled it wrong. It should be **caveirao**.

[@Tomfissh]

had to click off after 2 minutes cuz the fact you wouldnt drive more than 3 meters at a time made me so fucking tense hahaha

[@GarbageZenna]

Download the mod, try driving, and tell me you wanna drive more than I did lol. It’s utterly infuriating. Nothing like GTA 4 or 5 like you might think.

[@momerathsoutgabe-mt1gc]

@@GarbageZenna it bugged me too lol but I could tell it was intentional. Looks like you're driving a wet bar of soap.

[@GarbageZenna]

Nah, if the driving was good or fun, the video would’ve been WAY longer, trust me. I was very much looking forward to it.

[@Tomfissh]

@@GarbageZenna bahahaha

[@MrVoland44]

its crazy that even Max Payne 3 have better cars physics than GTA V...

[@isanyo404]

better then gta v

[@GarbageZenna]

So painfully true

[@gnrtx-36969]

Because it's physics from gta iv

[@Jerma_on_russian]

Its two absolutely different games 🤡🤡🤡

[@veidtgothzalez585]

You Bet

[@3rdStreetAVolitionite]

Definitely reminiscent of GTA IV's car physics.

[@gamerrr50]

It's the fact GTA 5 came out right after this game.

[@skye_music]

The physics of the cars are better than Gta 5. I mean the car when stops you see how it swings. That's cool!

[@nukedcarbon]

rare low res intruder W

[@ssssssssssssssssss50]

2:14 yaba daba dooooo

[@magxel]

Max Payne 3 it's better than GTA 5! realistic animations, realistic driving, realistic weapons (auto Glock), cool health system (popping Percs), better weapon accessories (laser sights) and GTA once had all that but sadly they eliminated it…

[@GarbageZenna]

“Realistic driving” in MP3 is a bit of a stretch lol

[@Kacpa2]

@@GarbageZenna Well it looks alot like GTA IV behaviour whivh is good, so i guess he means that. Its still a horrible shame how stiff and artificial GTA 5 is and sadly 6 seems to be more of the same but with Red Dead 2 visuals...

[@void7837]

​@@Kacpa2you got all that from a 10 second clip of someone driving in an alpha version of the game? lol

[@ripuffocacodeminios3923]

7:02 well, you just did. Max.

[@Galindo49]

A tad bit of wobble and it what've been the perfect car physics for gta v and yet all we got was cartoonish physics.

[@4.6lv8crownvictoria8]

Not sure if that Low Resolution intruder was put there as an easter egg or not

[@felipegt5001]

the 0:20 car is an VW Brasilia

[@GarbageZenna]

Oh yeah no doubt

[@cabralpog]

damn theses vehicles fisiks are better than a lot of games of rockstar

[@buak809]

physics of those cars are actually better than in GTA V but worse than GTA IV, I wonder if this is how it was supposed to look like in GTA V but then they decided to go full arcade

[@cabbagememes2852]

These models look similar to the ones from GTA 4 or I am just tweaking?

[@GarbageZenna]

Some are and some are assets back ported and altered from GTA 5.

[@DoritoFD]

The cars in Max Payne 3 are very different from the cars we actually use in Brazil, these cars are definitely not what we use in a third world country.

[@computerguy222]

The physics seem to have been copy and pasted straight from GTAIV

[@Ivorys_slushie]

Now we just wait for someone to make a mod of it tho it is unlikely since the maxpayne community seems to be VERY small sadly everyone seems to only focus on the gta series :(

[@ArthurMorgan-rdr2gta]

GTA Fans: NOOO, NOT ANOTHER YEAR Max Payne Fans: 💀

[@GarbageZenna]

So sadly true…😔

[@awesomegtadude1752]

God why couldn’t we get these physics for GTA V 😩

[@MrCatTheII]

The most reasonable reason of rockstar removing cars its so max payne 3 wasnt taken as gta 5 but only story mode and better gunplay.

[@GarbageZenna]

There’s also no need for them in a linear shooter. The Max Payne games never were and never will be open world. It’s the same RAGE as GTA which is why this is possible with just a simple trainer.

[@bubbag3332]

i wish there was a game like gta set in latin america, you know how sick that;ll be, and i mean a triple a game

[@peterhamsterhotdog613]

enyone knows if there is a co op multiplayer mod for Max Payne 3?

[@b.1570]

Those cars are too american for a game set in Brazil.

[@wellingtondeleon5478]

So does this mean that at some early point in the game's development there were plans to drive cars? because those physics are excellent, Euphoria engine is too ahead of its time

[@GarbageZenna]

No. Just a standard part of RAGE

[@3m3v4s]

interesting.

[@TwoToneProduc]

Its not clear if the car physics displayed here are original to the game, but they are - GTA V could badly use something that's at least somewhat similar.

[@GarbageZenna]

They’re original. It’s just RAGE engine physics from the version used to make MP3.

[@sleepy_killer]

Hoping gta 6 is closer to max payne 3's gameplay and the driving is closer to gta 4's driving

[@DmonDhaBoss]

@ZennaDriver Theoretically, If you can somehow port the handling to gta 5 and apply it to the calvacade , it may be able to show you the beta driving aspect….

[@GarbageZenna]

theres videos out there of beta GTA 5 and the driving. it looks pretty much like GTA 4, maybe slightly different.

[@DmonDhaBoss]

@@GarbageZenna no that video is a mod called countryside iv and it was uploaded under false information that it was beta gta 5

[@atk8758]

​@@GarbageZennathat's country side mod

[@No-vq1iv]

Why does it have better physics than games that actually feature driving, including GTA5?

[@monohydrate1105]

Some models are from gta 4

[@officer_friendly_]

it looks so satisfying

[@idkyet4924]

idk why they made new car models just seems like it'd be easier to import models from gta 4

[@GarbageZenna]

Probably to fit the vibe and aesthetic of the setting the game took place in. Liberty City/New York cars don’t really fit in the Brazilian Favelas all too well. Also, they were close to releasing GTA 5 so GTA 4 assets were fairly outdated imo.

[@Flawcreek]

Probably didn't want people to think Max Payne and GTA were in the same universe.

[@GarbageZenna]

Well, Max is from New York, not Liberty City, so I’m not sure too many people think that.

[@Flawcreek]

@@GarbageZenna You'd be surprised, I see this argument all the time on GTAForums that New York/Liberty City co-exist in the same universe, it drives me nuts lol

[@GarbageZenna]

Those people are stupid lol. Find me one mention of New York or any real US city in a GTA game. I believe we got talks about Florida in the earlier top down games before GTA VC, and then obviously London and the war with Australia, but that’s not US. The cope and hope oozing off some of the R* forum people, I swear. I just the games coexist as their own entities. Damn.

[@GVGames1986]

But am I right in thinking there is no way to get in a vehicle playing the game normally..

[@GarbageZenna]

Yeah you’re correct

[@GVGames1986]

@@GarbageZenna ta!

[@inertboi]

Bruh what're you talking about, those physics are better than any NFS turd EA plopped out in the past 10+ years.

[@GarbageZenna]

Interesting. I’d say that’s like comparing apples to oranges but it’s more like comparing apples to drywall. Driving physics in a third person action game compared to an arcade racing series are going to be VERY different, and they should be. NFS shouldn’t feel like GTA/RAGE based games and RAGE based games shouldn’t feel like NFS.

[@inertboi]

@@GarbageZenna Agree to an extent, but at the same time NFS shouldn't feel like an utter turd. A balance between arcade and sim should be stricken. I feel like older games (Underground 1 and MW 2005 for example) managed to achieve just that.

[@canivetejohnson]

Rockstar never disappoints, looking forward to GTA 6

[@kombokil]

Max Theft Auto

[@buzzard3983]

This is possibly because leftovers in the code of L.A Noire Yep, i think they are leftovers of L.A Noire, not leftovers of GTAIV, as simply that L.A Noire released one year before, 2011. Is far more believable that than they are leftovers of an 2008 game, that maybe the case as they share the same engine, But is far more believable they are leftovers of L.A Noire

[@GarbageZenna]

LA Noire was not developed by Rockstar, just published. Did not use the same RAGE engine. No leftovers here from anything Rockstar.

[@garymangan2761]

Great game

[@Yoyo-p3b]

What are the buttons to control the car?

[@GarbageZenna]

Well, you HAVE to use an Xbox controller, only an Xbox controller, not PS, not any other, only Xbox, but the trainer and the rest of the game uses mouse and keyboard, so it’s very cumbersome.

[@ChuckRodriguez]

Suspension made of water XD

[@cLab2022]

Imagine if Rockstar made a GTA set in Brazil

[@GarbageZenna]

Any foreign country would be interesting tbh

[@0xZero0swe]

Are MP3 set in Brazil?

[@cLab2022]

@@0xZero0swe yes

[@0xZero0swe]

@@cLab2022 Cool, I have never been checking it out that much or not at all perhaps. Gotta do it now

[@agostinocangelli]

I think this is a mix between gta 4 and la noire

[@GarbageZenna]

This came after both and if you’ve never played Max Payne 3, or any of the Max Payne series, please do. S tier series.

[@pvt.lucio.4173]

surreal

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

The spelling in the Caveirão Gringos really can't pronounce "veira" without turning it into "viera" Also the fact that they name yhat vehicle this shows they did they research about Brasil

[@fycher_]

Can you kill enemies by car hit

[@GarbageZenna]

I still have to try that

[@imo278]

8:36 cavalcade

[@Speed4Runs]

LOL this was completely unexpected

[@killerspee08]

I hope gta 6 has at least the first car's physics... thats just awesome!

[@fortheloveofnoise]

I was going to like the video but you did not crash them full speed into the wall... was very annoying, woulda been the first thing I did. 😝

[@NigelMontezuma]

5:42 Whee