The Catholic Priesthood: Why It's Reserved To Men

[@martincull4914]

If other denominations want priests, that is their choice. We don’t have Catholic women priests.

[@jr4746]

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[@prudenciogullingoy7105]

Priesthood is totally re-served only for men because it was commanded and instituted by the High Priest no other than Jesus Christ our Lord and savior .🙏

[@michaelvilleneuve8292]

We need to clearly state that Catholic is the one true Church. It is not a denomination. Denominations are only protestants.

[@brianguglielmin2873]

@@prudenciogullingoy7105 Men and Women are co equal in Christ to minister and rule families in homes with neither men or women lording it over each other. All are priests of God filled with His Spirit in Christ. 1 Peter 2:9-10 and Acts 1 and 2, Galatians 3:28. As One Body we all co equally enter into Christs Perfect and Complete Sacrifice established in Heaven as High Priest and live in Communion fellowship with Him Daily and forever. Amen.

[@wendyfield7708]

Unfirtunately they do not help Christian Unity.

[@Apriluser]

As an American Anglican (ACNA), I agree with restricting holy orders to men only. Unfortunately, there are some in my tradition who are not in agreement and it is a painful moment for us. Lord, in your mercy.

[@therealong]

The Pope is still the successor of Simon Peter whom Jesus founded His Church upon. The "unfortunately argument" doesn't change the very fact of being unfaithful to the Lord himself and Church tradition, and thereby following their own human understanding and their own version of the faith. Just think what the world experiences from all of these factions. Who shall they believe?

[@kimlersue]

PS....You should read the work of Catherine of Siena..Saint and Doctor of the Church. Her wisdom and intellect are far above anyone I have heard in any recent time. She is very worth the read.

[@kimlersue]

Yes..and sadly this choice has done nothing to enhance you religion. We all need to pray for each other.

[@therealong]

@@kimlersue Long time no see, Kitty. How did you like the lecture of Sr. Sara?

[@donzioldbuddy]

Time for you to become Catholic…

[@williamedwards2512]

Love the video great information. It seems though that the site does not want to take my thumbs-up.

[@therealong]

Excellent summarizing lecture by Sr. Sara Butler, to both men and women with or without teaching authority, based on the One and Holy Christian Faith as unalterably maintained through the centuries by the Catholic Church, the Pope and the Magisterium. More of these. Thank you. PAX CHRISTI 😇

[@michaelhaywood8262]

It is good to hear a woman defending the Catholic Church's traditional position on this issue. As I understand it, St JPII's statement on this in 1994 was definitive and final. The ''deaconesses'' mentioned in Acts were not the same as male deacons, they were more like proto-nuns. The church does value women and we want and need nuns/religious sisters.

[@therealong]

@michaelhaywood8262 "Deaconesses" seem still open to further theological studies, but the central point of the video here concerns the "priesthood" only. It's a fact that Lutherans, Episcopalians and others have even ordained female bishops. To crown it all, some commenters around have gone so far to also favor "Popesses". Where does one draw the line for free thinking?

[@donzioldbuddy]

What’s next, a Trans Pope?

[@therealong]

@@donzioldbuddy If you had posted earlier, I would have mentioned you too.

[@kevinkelly2162]

Just as long as they stop molesting children, who cares.@@donzioldbuddy

[@jaqian]

​@@donzioldbuddyThat's what will happen if you have female priests/bishops

[@josphatokemwa1539]

Thank you for the good and inspiring teaching 🙏 God bless you

[@tvc153]

😊 perfectly explained.

[@philalcoceli6328]

The Most Holy Virgin Mary, the greatest woman ever, never asked to be a deaconess or priest. She respected God's Divine Order and it was that that has made her the greatest woman ever, with total submission to God. THAT made her higher than all Deacons and all Priests, not a mad rush for power and control to become an impostor of God..

[@user-re2ss3jn8w]

I agree women cannot be priest. Women need to be proud to be women, stop saying "I hate getting my menses." I miss it because I can never now be a Mom.

[@Ajino_Moto-vlg]

Beyond belief, indeed. Thank you.

[@wesbaker39]

Where can one find the Paul Gandrol essay that was mentioned?

[@janicedagenais5730]

It is all about the Eucharist !!

[@dandjmcfetridge3687]

There's an order for leaders n Father God does it right every time.

[@MichElle-zc9tu]

Lord Jesus Christ instituted the Priesthood and no priestesshood.

[@geoffjs]

Explain?

[@sandydepiedras6372]

​@@geoffjs...ask Christ...

[@geoffjs]

Apologies, I misread your comment

[@LorettaGrace-kf7kh]

Correct!

[@jaqian]

God the Father instituted the Levitical priesthood (male only) in the Old Testament and Jesus (God the Son) instituted a sacramental priesthood (male only) in the New Testament. You can not use the excuse that it was the culture as many pagans had female priests. God deliberately chose men as His priests.

[@etpahoresky2872]

No women. Im a woman. Thank you Sister for your clarification. Agree wih the teaching of Christ's sacrament of Holy Orders.

[@glennlanham6309]

Which makes women Deacons an absolute absurdity

[@glennlanham6309]

@@PatAudreyK good point

[@the-metaphorian]

Under the guidance of a canon lawyer , for over two decades I have been researching the questions of female ordination, the inclusive use of feminine pronouns in reference to God, contraception, and the question of traditional versus non-traditional marriages. And I discovered an ancient theology from the Jews which had been referenced by St. Paul in his various epistles, by St. Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologica, by St. John Damascene in his book on The Orthodox Faith, and by medieval bishops, saints, martyrs and a pope. It is redundant to state that this ancient theology known as "The Radiance of God" is not an innovation, not a new explanation, but an explicit mystical Jewish teaching that undergirds the New Testament, and which the likes of Israeli historian, Gershom Scholem, and Orthodox patriarchs regard as having predated St. Paul. It is certainly more than just a social norm from which Jesus might have adopted the custom of an all-male apostleship. For the sake of brevity, "The Radiance of God," is the Jewish metaphysical explanation for Divine Personhood, why the Ultimate Being is Person, why the Divine Being is paternal, and why God sacramentally created Adam and Eve to represent Creator and Creation. As St. Thomas Aquinas unpacks 1 Corinthians 11:7, he perfectly echoes the Jewish theology of The Radiance to express the self-same teaching handed down from one Jewish generation to another since the Garden of Eden, a tradition that remains unbroken to this day in the all-male priesthood. "The Radiance" simply states that just as the Creator is the source of Creation's being, so did God the Father make Eve from the side of Adam in the Book of Genesis. St. Thomas Aquinas explains 1 Corinthians 11:7 accordingly, that just as Creator is the Principal of all Being, so is Adam the source of Eve, the first woman. Given this Jewish mystical theology, Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians 11:7 makes perfect sense: Adam is the glory of God and Eve is the glory of Adam. For this reason, St. Thomas Aquinas goes on to explain that Eve indirectly points to God as made in His image, by firstly being an image of Man (Adam). This notion of woman as the "glory of Adam" permeates all of Jewish mystical theology, where a primordial Adam bears within him all of God's creation, in whom all the light of God radiates onto Creation in a manifold way. Given this mystical Jewish background, it then makes perfect sense why Paul in Hebrews 1:3 speaks of the Son as the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being. St. John Damascene echoes Hebrews 1:3 repeatedly in his analogies of the Trinity, calling the Father the Sun, the Son the Ray, and the Spirit the Radiance conveyed by the Son. The Radiance also teaches that Man represents the glory of God because the Bridegroom first donates his seed to the Bride and it leaves his body; while Woman represents the glory of the created person (man/mankind) because as the Bride, she receives the seed of man into her body where she then unites it to her seed which remains within her until the fulness of time (delivery). And so even in the very design of human anatomy, the Jews solidly teach that Man represents the First Principle of Being who is the creator, and Woman, dependent on Adam for her existence. It is not a reason for the subordination of gender, but a sacramental sequence from source to recipient that points to the prerogative of the singular Divine Act of Being to overflow into the Creation of the heavens and the earth. When a man stands as priest to the Church, he sacramentally embodies in his manhood, the very essence of Adam as the glory of the Creator, the first principle of Being, the source of all supernatural grace. I could go on and on regarding the sacrificial nature of the masculine, versus the feminine in The Radiance, for both male and female are truly called to be self-giving (just as the Trinity is Eternally Co-Inherent and Ecstatic Self-Giving Being Unto the Other), but with the sacramental sequence of Adam and then Eve always in mind. In the ancient and primeval theology of The Radiance of God, both the male and female human person find their rightful place in divine intent, from Genesis.

[@kathleenausten-tee5939]

Wonderfully and brilliantly stated! I could easily follow your narrative. This exactly puts into words, which my untrained mind has struggled to state clearly in defense of our Holy Church. Thank you!

[@ThomasDiMattia-iy4zy]

That seems like a poor argument, since we now know, and have known for quite a long time, that the woman plays an equal part in creation

[@albinotravalja7942]

Because God says so………..

[@corinamaxim8254]

men interpreted . God created men and women and nowhere in the Bible God makes the woman inferior to man. This is all man made, because men understood they are superior due to the story if genesis What fault do women have for being born women?

[@luiginaduia9063]

Thank you Sr. Sara for this enlightenment. 🙏

[@stevensonrf]

Jesus calls all of us, men and women, to salvation. Therefore no one is being excluded from the church.

[@lucianchiku5189]

Unless the church wants to be seen as a symbol of exclusion especially in this era

[@stevensonrf]

@@lucianchiku5189 The Lord Christ and His Church calls all men and women to repentance; that’s not exclusionary. We always have to remember that authentic Christianity is countercultural.

[@wendyfield7708]

We all have different places in Christ’s Mystical Body, the Church. And all are equally important for the health of the Body. Read St.Paul on this. +

[@stevensonrf]

@@wendyfield7708 And women are not called to preach or be pastor’s in the Church. Read St Paul.

[@DariaAmato-wz2xg]

Would have like to hear the q&a

[@bensanderson7144]

What I find interesting is how similar Catholicism is to orthodox. In Eastern Orthodoxy, priests can marry. And of course, they don’t have a Pope.

[@therealong]

@bensanderson7144 It's rather married men can become priests, not the other way around. Orthodox have apostolic succession and their various patriarchs, and some prefer to be autocephalous, almost echoing the Protestants movements. However not recognizing the primacy of the Pope is due to their own stubbornness and political issues, which are not in line with the Gospel and tradition, nor with the previous Councils before year 1054. Current Eastern Catholic particular churches are in communion with the Pope in Rome, and latest number of rites I counted, were around 22-23 different Rites. Why not researching the matter thoroughly, instead of only finding it interesting? Are you only a spectator?

[@therealong]

@bensanderson7144 You didn't look it up yet?

[@carlosalves5231]

Priesthood is reserved for men because God wanted like this!!!

[@kevinkelly2162]

So why were catholic priests not celibate until the eleventh century? And why don't you know this? For a catholic you don't know much about your religion. Next you will be saying Matthew Mark Luke and John wrote the gospels. Clown. You believe things you don't even know.

[@janicedagenais5730]

Only the men have there fingers anointed to give communion So That is the way it is

[@nicksimmons1305]

I found it interesting how the speaker differentiated between priestly ordination and the deaconate. It would be then interesting to address the deaconate.

[@therealong]

@nicksimmons1305 Differentiating, distinguish, discerning are also "interesting" to master, especially for social media and many commenters who "cannot see the forest for the trees". "Deaconesses" seem still open to further theological studies. Stay tuned for when you'll hear more about them.

[@nicksimmons1305]

@@therealong I sure will :).

[@jaqian]

There are two different types of Deacons (male and female). The male are ordained, the females weren't

[@kevinrombouts3027]

Didn't Jesus say ( of the church) "whatever you loose on earth is loosed in heaven. Whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven". Didn't Jesus promise the Holy Spirit to us to lead us into all truth? What authority did Jesus in fact, give the church?

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Merci beaucoup pour votre confirmation.

[@maryaskin4757]

How could a woman , when Christ was a man, a woman diidnt die on the cross, the 12 apostles were.men, a woman cannot be a priest according to Catholic theology

[@jr4746]

Instead of adding tarnish to the Catholic faith; try instead being a role model like Holy Mother Mary & take her cue.

[@therealong]

jr4746 Rather listen to the video and read the description under it. Call a spade a spade.

[@bluewren2]

.Women given other high ranking positions is always an option.I was first hand witness of a nun from the islands some time ago. She was undeniably high volatile personality flashing smile attractive personality. She was apparently assigned home visits to families in difficulties.I listened to her amusing recounting just how jealous the wife was of her husband's attention to her. I inadvertently found myself looking at her extremely uplifted bosom.A nun in an uplifted bra?Nope not an option it is so ordained to men for a good reason.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Virtual Space is free. KZbin Management never invented the Computer.

[@vmd8057]

Does not the woman has the most prominent role among all human beens, the role of one that give oportinity to a human been to be part of creation? What else does she need in this world?

[@therealong]

vmd8057 As a human *being* the woman doesn't give any *opportunity* complementing in creation, she rather is the missing male part in *procreation* when she gets properly married. Besides that she has achieved equal human rights with a male, and she is a highly estimated voice as a counselor in the Church. However, as the video explains, she is not divinely destined to be a priestess. What else do you wonder about?

[@estebanmoeller]

It's human beans

[@therealong]

@@estebanmoeller That's where Mr. Bean stole the name...

[@vmd8057]

If the mother keep her baby inside for 9 months until birth she is giving that baby the opportunity to be part of creation, on Earth.

[@therealong]

But since a woman can never be mom, unless she unites with a man, who will become dad, I don't see the relevance of the post, insofar as the video is on priestly and manly celibate ordination only, and not on procreation.@@vmd8057

[@Sylvia-of9hj]

I do not support women as priests because menstruation is precluded regarding three specific duties of priests: 1. Consecration of the Eucharist, and 2. distributing the Eucharist by hand, and 3. Exorcism. And, although hearing confession does not concern menstruation or blood issues, women also seem to be precluded from hearing confessions and conferring forgiveness of sins because Christ breathed only on his male Apostles when he said he was conferring the power on them to "forgive sin." The Bible makes it crystal clear by Christ's actions and words that these duties are not for women. So if anybody disagrees with Jesus, who's right? Menstruation precludes women from priests' duties of consecration & distributing of the Eucharist and also of Exorcism. These preclusions have scriptural authority that make it plain that human or animal blood is not to be introduced or present at the altar during consecration of the Eucharist, or during passing out of the Eucharist, or during Exorcisms. Biblical references are, first of all, in the Old Testament, during Elijah's contest with the priests of Bael. When the "priests" were losing the contest, what did they do? They began cutting themselves to invoke demonic powers. So from this incident we know that the presence of human blood when combined with invocation ritual attracts and feeds demonic powers. And we still see this use of human or animal blood combined with ritual invocation in such depraved practices as Voodoo and Ashura festivals in Islam. And don't forget, these priests were priests of Jezebel, again emphasizing menstruation. Do even a cursory internet search of the words "menstruation" + "occult ritual" and you will find out about the high esteem in which menstrual blood is held in the occult. The other Biblical reference regarding the presence of human or animal blood during ritual invocation is in the Book of Mark when Jesus healed the possessed man who lived in the tombs. And what did this man do continually? He CUT himself, confirming that human blood (or animal blood) when combined with religious invocation attracts demons. And Mark gives us further information on why. The legion demons in this instance beg Jesus not to send them back to the pit, and this confirms that demons must possess a body in order to stay out of their place in Hell. And what's that quintessential characteristic of the body? It's blood, of course. The Bible says on several occasions that the life of the flesh is in the blood. So demons need a body to possess, and blood is the most important characteristic of a body. The presence of blood is also indicative of our fallen state because Adam and Eve did not have blood coursing through their bodies before the fall. Eve did not menstruate before the fall. The first blood appeared when Eve was deflowered by the Devil after he seduced her and she bled. Another incident from the Bible. When Christ appeared to Mary Magdalene after his Resurrection, he did not allow her to touch him, yet, only a matter of hours later, Jesus allowed Thomas to probe, with his bare fingers, the wounds from Jesus' Crucifixion. Why? Well, what was Mary Magdalene? She's always depicted as a young, attractive woman, that is, a menstruating woman. And Jesus' body is the Eucharist, right? And he did not allow a woman to touch it. This means that the Eucharist is only to be handed out by those with consecrated hands, that is, priests. With all this said, I'm not sure if women are eligible for the position of Deaconess, mainly because I'm not sure what Deacons do. It Decons' duties involve consecrating the Eucharist or handing it out, or of exorcisms, or of taking confessions, then the position of Deacon is not appropriate for women. Adding to the confusion of women's part in the Church are the hateful and insulting writings from Paul about women. And it's not clear whether Paul's writings refer to women working in positions in the church or to all women in general. It has to be understood that Paul was using Jewish Law in his plainly prejudiced attitudes against women. Paul was a Pharisee, remember, and the clearest example of his using Jewish Law regarding women was his statement that "Cephus" (Peter) was the first to see Jesus after his Resurrection. But Paul was using Jewish law, which stated that only two MALE witnesses were valid. Yet, the Bible states it was Mary Magdalene, and Catholics believe it was Mary, Jesus' mother to whom Jesus gave the honor of appearing to first. In either case, Jesus revealed the most important news in the history of humankind to a woman first. He told Mary Magdalene to go tell others of it. This is huge. It shows Jesus believed in women's intelligence and he told her to go and teach the apostles of his Resurrection. So if Paul will "not suffer a woman to teach," then who is right? Jesus or Paul? If anybody disagrees with Jesus, who's right? Mary Magdalene has been called the "Apostle to the Apostles." It's NEVER mentioned by any man, but Jesus also revealed who he was, the Messiah, to a woman first, to the Woman at the Well. And when he told her this, she ran back to her village to tell the others, and Jesus never said to her, "I will not suffer a woman to teach." The Woman at the Well has been called the first evangelist. In the incident with Martha and Mary, when Martha protests Mary's studying with the men under Jesus, he says "This will not be denied her." At the same time, he did not criticize Martha, the traditionalist woman. Jesus loves, respects and honors both types of women, the traditionalist and the non-traditionalist. Indeed, without women teachers, writers, and saints, what on earth would the Catholic Church do? Who educates more people all over the world than ANYBODY else? It's the Catholic Church. And what would Catholic schools do without the nuns who do most of the teaching? And female saints are revered and respected and held in the highest esteem in Catholicism. No one has ever done more for women than Jesus Christ. In the incident with the woman caught in adultery, Jesus wrote the names of the male accusers in the sand, and what they were doing, stating that, "He who is without sin" should throw the first stone. And Jesus announced a new era for women when he told a group of men who were asking how they could get rid of wives they were tired of, that "in Moses time, your hearts were hardened," but that in Jesus' new covenanat, things would improve for women. The men were asking Jesus why his pronouncements on women and marriage were different from those of Moses (from Jewish Law, the Law that Paul was quoting regarding women). The new status of women is a part of Jesus' new covenant. At the Cross, who was loyal to Jesus? Although one Apostle, John, was there with him, it was mostly women (Mary his mother and a female cousin of hers, and Mary Magdalene). All of the other apostles betrayed Jesus at the Cross. And it was the women on the streets of Jerusalem who wept for Jesus, while all the male apostles except John hid to save their own hides. Veronica wiped his face with her veil, and he honored her with the image of his face permanently on her veil, a healing image. Before his Crucifixion, Jesus allowed himself to be annointed with oil by a woman, who washed his feet with her hair. So all of these duties are probably open to women: healing, annointing with oil, teaching, writing, evangelizing and the like. I'm not disregarding Paul, or saying, as some do, that he should be removed from the Bible. I respect the work he did. But Paul was not perfect. He was a murderer before Jesus changed him. The important lesson to learn from Paul is that if he could be saved, then practically anybody can. Paul was plainly mistaken by limiting his writings and pronouncements about women to Jewish Law. Paul never knew Jesus when the two of them were in physical bodies, so Paul simply didn't know of Jesus' interactions with women. Paul was not perfect, but neither were most of the other apostles either. As stated, they all, except John, betrayed Jesus at the Cross. Yet their work is valuable and respected and essential in spreading the faith.

[@johnsteichen5239]

So…. Was Paul of Tarsus a catholic priest ? What is the defense of the answer.

[@koppite9600]

It hadn't been clear yet, but he was a leader and was accepted as such.

[@jaqian]

God the Father instituted the Levitical priesthood (male only) in the Old Testament and Jesus (God the Son) instituted a sacramental priesthood (male only) in the New Testament. You can not use the excuse that it was the culture as many pagans had female priests. God deliberately chose men as His priests.

[@brianguglielmin2873]

Co equal authority is different than authority over or lording it over. Neither men or women are to do that ministering in Christ nor in homes.

[@SrMaretaTunai]

🙏🙏🙏❤

[@dirkwetzel5755]

Beyond belief? She agreed with the matter of symbolism in baptism and Eucharist (“chips and beer”), but denies the same for the symbolism of a priest. It does not fit. In the Eucharist the priest takes the role of the male incarnation of Christ and he acts as the high priest who sacrifices (breaks) the lamb of God on the altar, an exclusively male role in the old covenant. The feminist approach of seeing only purely functional aspects in everything and demanding equality destroys the symbolism of the rites in religion. And the denominations that no longer place any value on this symbolism have in fact also lost their sense of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

[@thomnickels4016]

She's against women's ordination, let's just leave it at that, thank you.

[@dirkwetzel5755]

@@thomnickels4016​​⁠ I have to admit that I did not know her before. At the beginning she told us to have changed her position but it was not clear in which direction. The speech was playing with arguments of both sides. That last statement “beyond belief” was for me like “not covered by belief” but maybe this was thought differently. I am not a native speaker.

[@therealong]

@@dirkwetzel5755 Did you read the description under the video? "Feminism" has nothing to do with her lecture being functional. She was not supposed to explain the liturgical aspects of the rites. Have you followed the media talking about this issue? Synod of Synodality? Baptism could in fact, in extreme circumstances be administered by a layman, and even by a nonbeliever, provided that the Trinitarian formula is followed. But why do you use the word "symbolism" for the Eucharist, when at the same time endorsing the Real Presence? The to terms are mutually exclusive. Your wording doesn't follow traditional catechetical explanation either, insofar as you mentioned "breaking of the lamb of God", while it is the "Bread of life" as the "Body of Christ" that is being broken, to distribute to the faithful in the Communion meal, like in the Last Supper. You might want to refresh your language by reading the CCC, which is translated in all languages. I had problems in following your explanation, as also in regard to your "role of the incarnated priest". 🤔

[@dirkwetzel5755]

@@therealong The anti-Protestant reflex to the term symbol is completely out of place here. The Eucharist combines a multitude of symbols and cross-references, which takes nothing away from the real presence of Christ as taught by John. On the contrary, the Eucharist is far more than the breaking of the bread of life. It is the visualization of Christ's sacrifice at Golgotha. Otherwise we wouldn't need altars, we would have dining tables. I am not a traditional Catholic, but I feel that post-Conciliar we are increasingly losing the importance of the Mass in favor of an agape meal.

[@therealong]

@@dirkwetzel5755 Absolutely not. It's a semantic fallacy and does not clearly explain your theological position. What faith tradition do you represent, by the way? The Decree on the Mass, issued by the Council of Trent (by memory probably Session III) remain invariable, and explicates in detail the various elements of the Sacrifice, and which should not be neglected, as both sacrifice, offering and meal. I only reacted to your strange wording of "Breaking the Lamb" which is not even what the Apostles did on the Lord's Day (Note: not translated Sonntag, Søndag, Zondag, nor Sunday as it remained in the North European countries' languages, but like Domingo, Dimanche, Domenica with the Latin prefix from Dominus. Even the Greek has the Lord from Kyrios.)

[@wendyfield7708]

Whois this speaking here please?+

[@lennyimam9603]

Thank you 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@brianguglielmin2873]

That also is developed Catholic Tradition to have another set celibate male ministerial priesthood daily re- offering Christ to the Father ritually in bread and wine and receiving Him in Communion bread. The main essential matter is to receive Christ in our hearts by faith serving Him to the end.❤️🙏

[@alexandrinamiller4734]

Yet the Church is still raling from sanctfied priests, who comitted horendous atrocities against the INNOCNENT. Can anyone please expain how Our Lord would respond to such behaviour, tell this to the Children.

[@valuedCustomer2929]

❤

[@geoffjs]

I heard a priest one day explaining that a woman priest results in spiritual lesbianism as the woman priest would be interacting with a female, Christ’s bride, the Church. Initially, quite confronting, but it makes sense.

[@marthawissmann8268]

I never bought that line. The problem for me is that that idea is a mystical expression of the relationship between the church and the priesT. It’s not in reality. Lesbianism my patoot! I am made in the image and likeness of God. I am female. That meansGod has these qualities too. Does that make God Gay????. I am a member of the Mystical Body of Christ. But I can’t receive one of the sacrament.

[@geoffjs]

@@marthawissmann8268neither can men have babies!

[@jupiterinaries6150]

That’s a ridiculous reason.

[@DeannaWillistonOFS]

Image and likeness does not mean what you think it means. Read the Catechism starting at 1701.

[@josephinebennett6772]

Brides of Christ!!! Several of them in convents, and where does that leave us I heard a monk say. Have they nuptials also with Jesus. The priest shouldn't have been too hasty about female priests having a lesbian relationship with the church. That is a very twisted argument. In the early Church theologians taught that a priest was in the image of Jesus and a bishop was in the image of God the Father. More confusion. I am glad theologians dropped that one. More confusion which h church authorities don't like to be reminded of...some theologians taught that women do not have souls. Is it any wonder that they didn't even consider the female priesthood. The controversy was about the question of women administering baptism. The same old arguments which were used then to prohibit women are used today to prohibit female priesthood. It gets very tedious. 13:21

[@stevensonrf]

To dismiss and discard St. Paul’s writing, is to discard and disrespect the Scriptures!

[@jm9673]

Not at all. People read Paul with insufficient care. We know him through his letters written to the very different churches in Asia Minor. Each letter addresses a particular issue in a particular church. It is therefore wrong to read the epistles without a feeling of nuance and does Paul a great disservice.

[@stevensonrf]

@@jm9673 No. The Pauline letters and their instructions are apostolic and universal. What you suggest leads to cafeteria Catholicism.

[@Marc010]

So other denominations that allow women pastors are wrong?

[@valuedCustomer2929]

Yes, they have fallen from Christ's example ecclesiologically and theologically.

[@Travis1365]

Yes

[@alessandroarrigo602]

They allow "women pastors" but not "women priests", just because protestant do not have the sacrament of priesterhood.

[@geoffjs]

@@alessandroarrigo602so without a validly ordained priesthood, no proper sacrificial worship as commanded by Jesus Jn 6:51-58, so no real presence, hence not church, more like a synagogue for teaching and prayer

[@Marc010]

@@valuedCustomer2929 Does this work for other differences? Catholics add seven books to the Bible that other religions don't. Are they wrong not to include them?

[@josephinebennett6772]

When a woman administers baptism, who does she represent. When she says " I BAPTISE ), in the name of the FATHER and of thr SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT, who does she represent . The Father? She is not a father and can never be a father. The Son ., she is not a son and can never be a son. The Holy Spirit ., she is not a spirit and can never be a spirit. Does she stand " in the place of Christ" or does she represent the Church. How is the Sacrament valid when administered by a women who fulfills the usual conditions of matter and form. The Theologians of the early church wrote about women being unsuitable to administer Baptism not about women being unsuitable candidates for sacramental priesthood citing the usual arguments:- Jesus was a man He chose only men The Apostles chose only men Mary was not chosen by Jesus for the priesthood We have an unbroken tradition of a male priesthood. That was all turned on its head when Pope Urban II allowed women to administer baptism in the context when men went to fight in the crusades leaving their pregnant wives at home. So women were allowed to baptise their dying newborn infants. An act of wonderful charity despite the fact that the weight of history was against it. We can't claim that something can't be allowed because it never happened before. The Incarnation and the Ressurection are a case in point. No discussion on the sacramental priesthood is complete without addressing the question of who does the sacerdotal service of the washing of the feet. Who has always done so, women! Who has been relied upon by the church leadership to do so, women! I mean the the church's reliance on women to teach in catholic schools, to heal the sick, to look after the poor and the orphaned, to assist priests when they went in to new missionary territory.

[@CJCappella]

If I may add to this... This talk addresses two of the seven sacraments. Holy Eucharist and Holy Orders. Sister did not address in her text the sacrificial nature of both. Where does a sacrifice take place? At an altar and not a table. Hence why it is called 'The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass' and not 'The Memorial of a Common Meal'. What then of the priest? A priest offer sacrifice. Who do they sacrifice at the altar? If it is Christ, wouldn't the priest be in similitude to Our Lady who offered her Son, the ultimate sacrifice?

[@wenshan9101]

The Blessed Mother did not actively offer her Son as a sacrifice. The Sacrifice is the Son's alone. The Father 'sent' the Son into the world. Mary played the role of obedience to the Father's will in her fiat. By it, she picked up her own cross after her son. (She did not and could not have carried His Cross. Notice Simeon made the prophecy that her own soul would be pierced by a sword. Luke 2:35). Discipleship in short. Likewise, in the Liturgy of the Eucharist, the words of Consecration switches to the first person. There is no confusion of roles here. Christ offers Himself as the unblemished Lamb to the Father. The priest merely acts in persona christi. Blessed Lent!

[@elizabethlockner3968]

I do not feel that the Church "dissed" women, and I have no interest in women priest. An ego is no reason to become a priest.

[@josephinebennett6772]

Is it an expression of ego when a person seeks to enter the priesthood? I dare you to walk in to a seminary and castigate the students for having big egos. The apostles wanted to have an inner circle around Jesus. Jesus excoriated them for trying to keep a woman who wanted help away from him. what did he say about the apostles argument about which of them was the greatest. Priests and seminarians should be prepared to exercise humility and fulfill their sacerdotal duty of washing the feet and not expect other people to do it. I mean " washing the feet " metaphorically.

[@therealong]

​@@josephinebennett6772 Having read your comment earlier, I still can't get your intention and main point behind your long comment. Have you read the full description under the video? I have asked this same question to other commenters on this video. I also mentioned in one comment that baptism in extreme circumstances can be administered by anyone, a layman and even a nonbeliever, provided that the Trinitarian formula is followed. What is the relevance of repeatedly writing WHOM a woman may represent of each of the persons of the Trinity, when a person baptizes another IN the name of each one? The baptizer is neither one of them, it is obvious. Sr. Sara is explaining what precisely any teacher would do, either male or female. She has not added any personal liturgical explanation, than just reading from official documents clarifying doubts around the Synod of Synodality that have been subject to several speculations. Further theological discussions are not made in comments on YT, nor between the media representatives, but by the Magisterial Commission.

[@PhilipShawn]

What else!?

[@thomnickels4016]

Excellent talk. But of course women's ordination is a hot topic in Ireland--Ireland is a pagan country now.

[@PhilipShawn]

The anthropology of it

[@estebanmoeller]

You cant have female deacons without ipso facto having female presbyters, bc the Sacrament is one (Orders). You would have to then admit female bishops, and priests.

[@jaqian]

💯

[@philcortens5214]

I must say it's a tad bit annoying she keeps referring to Pope John Paul II as "Saint".

[@tgflux]

It helps her case: "can't contradict a saint"! Roman Catholic canonization "guarantees" the person is in heaven. To judge the soul of Karol Wojtyla is obviously above my paygrade, but...! 😒

[@philcortens5214]

Being charitable, I reckon he made Purgatory. Let's pray for him.

[@ctfh1236]

NO women priests ever, NO women deacons ever

[@SophieHamilton-d3e]

I completely agree that there should never be women priests, but in the early church there were women deacons so why not now?

[@jaqian]

​@@SophieHamilton-d3eThey weren't ordained like male deacons. Those woman looked after other women who were being baptised for modestys sake. Also the wife of a deacon was called a deaconess

[@SophieHamilton-d3e]

⁠@@jaqianI know all this. But I can’t understand why the RC church doesn’t have deaconesses like there were in the early church, and call them ‘deaconesses’ or ‘women deacons’.

[@rotelochavez3552]

Then why is it that there are priests who are gay. I can attest to that.

[@jaqian]

There shouldn't be, they aren't allowed to be ordained but some slip through.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Protestants: no Mary, no Jesus. Therefore, God will not recognize you.

[@WMedl]

Firstly without maybe baptism no sacrament was even mentioned in the bible. There was no priesthood before at least the midth of the second century. In 1 Corinthians 11 20ff Paul rebukes them for abusing the common supper by overeating by rich christians and starving by poor ones. 1 Cor 1:33 "So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together. 34 Anyone who is hungry should eat something at home, so that when you meet together it may not result in judgment" There is no priest, no eucharist cerimony, a pure commemoration. Even in the Didache, in introduction for new Christians such scaramental and sacerdotal instituions are mentioned. And last bit not least, if the apostels would be taken as basis for a priesthood, they all had been CIRCUMCISED JEWS OBBEYING THE LAW OF MOSES! So to only pick up the sexual attribute is friolous!

[@geoffjs]

You say that maybe the Bible refers to baptism! No maybe, see Jn 3:5, Jesus says that baptism is essential for salvation & Acts 2 38-39, The literal Real Presence in the Eucharist Jn 6 51-58 supported by 1 Cor 10 16-17 & 1 Cor 11 23-27 was instituted at the Last Supper as was the Priesthood. The other four sacraments were instituted by Jesus & can be found in the Bible.

[@WMedl]

@@geoffjs No, there was no priesthood neither in the gospels, acts, in all letters and neither in the first century.

[@geoffjs]

@@WMedl If anyone shall say that by the words ‘Do this in commemoration of me’ Lk 22:19 Christ did not institute the apostles priests, or did not ordain that they and other priests should offer his body and blood: let him be anathema (Council of Trent, session 22, ch. 1).

[@WMedl]

@@geoffjs Such a commemoration was practiced in the first century without any liturgy or priesthood - see Paul rebuking the Corinthians for excessive eating by rich christians in the presence of pour starving ones! There was no prescription what and how to do it nor who was entitled of. And to answer a statemenr by threatening with anathema (inquisition, torture, pyre?) is summarizing christian caritas?

[@geoffjs]

@@WMedlRead the early fathers for contrary evidence. Why do non Catholics always try to pervert the Truth?

[@lanbaode]

All should also know the other side of this stand taken by this speaker here by googling and reading Rosemary Radford Ruether’s “Can Men be Ordained?”

[@worldofthesupernatural]

It’s not a stand. It’s the Law.

[@lanbaode]

@@worldofthesupernatural yes it’s the law, not of God, but of man. Read Ruether’s reverse perspective… how that law can be reversed….

[@thomnickels4016]

Ruether is like Hans Kung, aka flirting w/heresy.

[@lanbaode]

@@thomnickels4016 is your theological acumen that high to judge her or are you just repeating the radical right misogynistic talking points?

[@therealong]

@@lanbaode Who cares about yours and others theological "acumen", when you already said the law is manmade, and can be reversed? Is this the respect you have for the Pope and the Magisterium?

[@brianguglielmin2873]

All in Christ benefit from Christs Perfect Offering and enjoy Communion with Him. That is Developed Catholic Tradition to Re enact or Re Offer Sacrifice Daily and Ritually with Elements to Receive in Communion Bread.❤

[@tgflux]

My current priest is a woman. My previous priest was a woman. My current bishop is a woman. Our sacraments are REAL. Our church is alive, growing . . . and, oh yeah, *One Holy Catholic and Apostolic* (and True!). ☩✝☦🕈 The Roman argument against ordaining women resembles nothing so much as the one it made 400 years ago against Galileo (for Galileo's contradiction of the RCC's "Traditional" and allegedly "Biblical" assertion that the Sun moves around the Earth). “And yet it [the Earth] moves” (“Eppur si muove”), as attributed to him. *Women ARE divinely called to ordination, and women ARE priests.* That's a simple fact, a living Reality, and a beautiful Truth! 🌈 "But Jesus was a man"? [the "Icon Argument"] As a very wise (and earthy!) Benedictine once told me, "we're called to BE like Jesus, not PEE like Jesus!" 😄 God bless and defend women called to be priests (may their numbers increase! 😇)!

[@geoffjs]

Only the CC & Orthodox have validly ordained male priests in an unbroken line of apostolic succession. Only men can be priests as they act in persona Christi which, as females, women “priests” can’t! The male priest distributes the Eucharist to His spouse, the female Church, hence, female priests suggest spiritual lesbianism.

[@tgflux]

Your beliefs are so very sadly narrow (and frankly, strange). I know the Reality of GRACE in my church, because I've lived it (for many years). I don't deny the sacraments in your church; why do you deny (fear!) the sacramental grace in mine?

[@geoffjs]

@@tgfluxApologies for the delayed reply. Strange as it may sound, the CC is biblical with text about the role of woman in Church eg 1 Tim 2:11-15 The priest, as persona Christi ie both priest offering Himself as victim to the Father, can only ever be male. Jesus acting through His male priests serves the female Bride of Christ, consequently, it is impossible to have valid female priests, a function of modern relativism where everyone’s “truth” is acceptable! One can’t mix water & oil! Unfortunately, Churches with female priests inevitably fail as the Anglican Church is experiencing!

[@tgflux]

@@geoffjs Nope. We're growing in numbers, but more importantly, in holiness! Your arguments are pathetically unpersuasive. Reducing the priesthood to a genital and/or X chromosome? _Reduction ad absurdum._ The Imago Dei Made Female are more than just able to be Persona Christi---they excel at it!

[@richardredmond1463]

The apostles were not compulsorily celibate, so why does the RC church force it's priests to do what Jesus never commanded, especially since it attracts paedophiles as well as good men? It's not good that the RC church refuses to learn from its mistakes.

[@Apriluser]

St Peter had a mother-in-law…

[@richardredmond1463]

@@Apriluser Good point! (Matthew 8:14)

[@DeannaWillistonOFS]

@@Apriluserah, but we never hear of his wife, even when her mother was so sick…We believe that St. Peter must have been a widower by the time he was called by Christ.

[@DeannaWillistonOFS]

Separate point that denominations which do allow marriage have higher rates of pedos, as do public schools (which also no longer require celibacy).

[@richardredmond1463]

@@DeannaWillistonOFS Well, it must be the vast number of altar boys that raises the perception.

[@brianguglielmin2873]

Patriarchy must give way to egalitarian according to scripture. Even in the Old Testament Debra was a Judge of Israel. History and church tradition and Judaism unto Christ have given women a bad and unfair rap. Galatians 3:28 says There is no male or female in Christ. All are One in the Spirit and Baptized into One Spirit. 1Peter 2:9-10 All are priests in Christ- binding and loosing Matthew 16-18 and whoever hears disciples in Christ hears Christ Himself. Priscilla and Aquila ministered together Acts 18 and some widows were head of church homes. Junias was a female apostle Romans 16:2 and 1 Timothy 2-4 deal with particular church problem of the time and so emphasis He to make a point to correct abuse and not to denigrate women. In the Godhead the Father Leads Son and Spirit in co equal Authority and so in church is co equal authority of pastors and as well husband and wife in home has husband lead in co equal authority concerning one another and children with no lording it over one another and definitely in church no lording it over each other but submit to one another in peace and harmony.❤🙏

[@jimbooi1]

What is your point?

[@brianguglielmin2873]

@@jimbooi1 My point is to teach that Women are co equal to Pastor Church and co equal respect in homes.

[@nathaniellathy6559]

Only men should be Priests. Goes back to 12 Apostles. Women can be nuns and should wear habits like Mary.

[@sophiachavez3377]

Since you seem to be a frequent speaker, I don’t understand why you have such a difficult time reading your own speech which you have presented many times? Also, while not all can be dynamic speakers, we can all improve. I suggest you get some help to become a better speaker to make your presentations more interesting.

[@nathaniellathy6559]

Are you suggesting Toastmasters?😂 She's not going to change her approach after years of speaking

[@sophiachavez3377]

If the JPII’s statement was “final and definitive,” why wouldn’t another pope’s statement stating the opposite be definitive and final?

[@jimbooi1]

listen to the lecture again

[@sophiachavez3377]

Jesus was not inspired by any human customs nor anything human. To claim otherwise is to deny His omnipotence and omniscience.

[@groovyone5492]

Jesus may have appointed only men but that's no excuse for blatant discrimination, bigotry and misogyny. Jesus also observed Saturday as the Sabbath but Catholics had no problem changing that and filling their churches and cathedrals with graven images.

[@jaqian]

We celebrate on Sunday because that is when Jesus was resurrected. Do you consider photos to be a graven image? Statues are just bold school photos to help us concentrate

[@groovyone5492]

@ Any three dimensional representation of an alleged supernatural being is a graven image which is a pagan tradition and Sunday is celebrated because of the obvious association with the pagan sun god.

[@sophiachavez3377]

Sorry, but this presentation is so dull that I can’t listen to it for 35 minutes. I could read this speech 3 times and make it more interesting. It’s a monotone. Worth reading, but not listening to it.

[@irudhayaraj5522]

Father of God gave rights to men to lead the people of Israel by the men's prophets. Hence our god is not against women. God chooses men for priesthood. King always men, queens always women. Men priests are representing the Jesus Christ and women nuns are representing Mother Mary. Jesus is not the father of everyone, He is our God, but Mother Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ and also believers of Jesus Christ. Both are not our father and mother. Priests can't marry a Mother Mary and Nuns can't marry Jesus because Nuns are always Mother of all the priests. No nuns can say, i am going to marry Jesus Christ. Because Jesus is their son, so priests are their son. Priesthood is for men........ Which is decided by God. Amen.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Mary -Magdalene is Jesus'Lover. Nuns ought to remember that

[@geoffjs]

Blasphemy

[@corinamaxim8254]

We dont even know if God has a gender, since he made both , the woman and man, in his image. Jesus came as a man because women had no voice back then, as a woman he could have been stoned for speaking to men and performing miracles. Who would have paid attention to a woman? He accepted men and women just the same, but we people make rules according to our convenience, the convenience of the fittest.

[@chefEmersonWilliams]

No, sister, that is not so. God had the Resurrection confirmed by two WOMEN witnesses. Women could not testify in court, and yet, He had Jesus' most important act assured on the word of women. God expected people to "pay attention to the women," and people did. It's not sociological, it's sacramental. God does not want women to act as priests. Women have more important work to do than that. God is neither male nor female. He also has no body. But He made both sexes in his image and likeness, with a Body (with women being formed from the rib of man). We, both men and women, have a spirit like God's. It does not mean we share His same physical characteristics, if He even has any physical characteristics.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Personally, I think you should wear a veil. I hate short hair.

[@terrydillon9323]

The old boys club. I just believe in a loving Creator for all. I believe Christ was just a kind man who travelled and spread kindness. People of that time made him out to be more than he claimed to be. I love him for what he stood for. I am glad religion was never forced on me. To me as I see what is going on , I feel Catholics enslave women. Look at Roe, look at other issues. Women are suffering because of the Catholic religion . Religions have committed so many atrocities throughout history. Glad I don’t feel obligated to believe in any of them.

[@jaqian]

Nonsense.

[@redsoil5821]

Wonan at the Altar. What for this discussion at all. Nobody has such authority. Mas would be not valid, and there could be no Holy Eucharist.

[@fritula6200]

"Thumbs up" l have been blocked from several sites also...... Mostly those sites that are normal & not woke:

[@lucianchiku5189]

But the church has power to change the nature of the law

[@estebanmoeller]

It is not law, that is changeable discipline. It is inmutable dogma. That is her point

[@hdubhhdub2020]

A lot. Less. WAR. as. Women in power. pride. Yes a factor. God. Help us.

[@jaqian]

Women are more vicious than men. You're a fool to think there'd be less war.

[@elizabethbeunaiche6470]

Luckily, I attend à Christian Church that has no bras. We have a lot of women priests! Yay for us, there were a lot of women who followed Christ Jesus. The men were jealous.

[@geoffjs]

What nonsense! A woman, by definition, can’t offer the leadership & fatherly role, that a male, representing Jesus can. Given that the Church is considered to be foe bride of Christ, it would be inappropriate to have a female in a clergy role. 1 Tim 2:12

[@leoinsf]

Talk all you want, Sister, but look in the mirror! You are not speaking for the young who refuse to attend a church that exists for itself and its outmoded rules, ceremonies, and traditions! Jesus was all about people, love, and charity, not rules, laws and catechisms! He hated Pharisees who did what the Catholic Church has done for centuries: ignored simplicity and focused on ceremony and itself instead of people! As I see the Pope and cardinals prancing around in their "uniforms", I suddenly realize that the Catholic Church is in the business of intimidating people, making them sit in a pew and helplessly watch their priests do everything!

[@therealong]

leoinsf Not everyone sees through your eyes. Pope Francis has been pope for almost 11 years soon and you seem to know nothing, and perhaps only followed the fake social media, that makes money with their hot and spicy articles. PS: The sister is not talking to the young is talking to those of your ilk. (Read also the description under the video)

[@DeannaWillistonOFS]

lol “helplessly watch the priest”? No, we offer our hearts and prayers during the Mass as the priest re-presents Jesus, the spotless Lamb, to the Father.

[@mht5875]

LOL, no, Jesus was all about Salvation, not people. Read Acts 5 and context. Christianity is about worshipping our Savior, not about worshipping people.

[@therealong]

@@mht5875 Where did my previous comment go? YT's devilish algorithm! Read the Beatitudes in Matthew's 5; Read Matthew's 25 and more and more... Whom you guys have learned a so distorted exegesis of the Scriptures from? Useless Gnostic sources! Amazing!

[@Allgood1859]

I suspect that the young people to whom you refer are more interested in their cell phones, social media, and tiktok, rather than in saving their soul and attending any church, however modern or traditional it may be. That is their choice just as it yours to express such negatively about the Catholic Church, however wrong.

[@estebanmoeller]

The whole discourse is flawed: while there were in the early church "presbyters", in time the catholic resuscitated the priesthood in the style of the old testament. The priesthood, as it exists today, as a caste, should not have come about. Only married presbyters

[@jaqian]

Please explain the Orthodox priesthood so.

[@donzioldbuddy]

What’s next, a Trans Pope ?

[@jaqian]

You do realise she is speaking against women's ordination?

[@leylinegoddess]

there were women deacons in the early church

[@valuedCustomer2929]

This is untrue. There were however what was near the level of a sub-deacon called a deaconess, but they did not participate in the sacrament of the holy orders and were there specifically for enforcing the modesty of women in ways that would be innapropriate for men to. And they didn't exist until after the first 500 years. The Vatican has generously evaluated and disproven this false argument plenty. I suggest looking into the International Theological Commission’s 2002 document on the diaconate.

[@valuedCustomer2929]

They weren't. I suggest looking into the International Theological Commission’s 2002 document on the diaconate

[@TomGjokaj-ds2ng]

There's never been a woman deacon ordained in church history

[@lanbaode]

Read Romans 16:1-2

[@johnflorio3576]

Sorry, but no.

[@carefullychristian8657]

All in all we have no teaching by jesus on gospels about this priest hood So its all traditions crested bynmen but not the gospel so no compulsion

[@geoffjs]

What about Jesus instituting Holy Orders at the Last Supper? Jn 6 51-58. Per Matt 16 18-19 the Pope has the power to bind and loose eg a male priesthood. Also remember that not everything is in the bible Jn 21:25 and that Sacred Tradition complements the bible

[@LucindaBerry-r7i]

I am grateful to so many Catholics who have helped me over the years, sometimes with charity, sometimes with instruction, occasionally with criticism. I am grateful for so much knowledge they have encouraged and preserved that may otherwise have been lost. But there is only one Jesus. The priests descend from one of the twelve disciples. All lucky enough to be Christians try to follow Jesus, which is not easy.

[@AileenSerrantes-m7m]

Eat your place. I'm not interested

[@metodalif4770]

An interesting case: Circumcision was very much 'in' in the time of Jesus. Heck, He was a beneficiary too. Some years later, the male! leaders of the Church decided that it is (fortunately) OK to skip it. As long as a tradition serves the interests of a (clerical in this case) caste, it is worth to invoke it. Another case: For (proverbial) 30 silver pieces, priestly celibacy was traditionalized. Did Jesus see it coming in His days on Earth? What about now?

[@marybedward9381]

We are at a critical moment in time if we have make priests I’d rather have female priest than none at all.

[@A.VincentFernandez]

I'm catholic but I think this doesn't make any sense. Women should be able to be priests of bishops etc... Why women don't vote to choose a pope? Why a woman cannot be the (next) pope?

[@Anon.5216]

Why can't men have babies? Jesus was a man! The Priesthood is MALE.

[@TomGjokaj-ds2ng]

Have you ever read the Bible the catechism of the catholic Church, or any church father you must be an Episcopalian Catholic 😀

[@huongmai9521]

By your own admission, you have not done a good job studying and living the Catholic faith

[@prioress]

Jesus comes as "Bridegroom" and his church is his "Bride." No woman can claim that nor act "...in persona Christi..." and that is why Satan is having a field day with altering human perception of gender. The whole confusion he is creating is anti-God whom he hates. Hope that helps you understand a bit more. God bless.

[@claujff7092]

Who are you trying to please? Women? The priesthood is to serve God in the way He asks to be done in the Old and New Testament. If Jesus came as a Man and He selected 12 men to be his disciples we have to be humble enough to understand that this is not out of bigotry, fatherhood is what Our Father in heaven wants to give us, or do you pray: our parent who art in heaven?

[@PhilipShawn]

Picky, picky, picky

[@Romans5.1]

There is no more priests in the NT. Jesus is out high priest, he offered himself up to the father as a perfect sacrifice once and for all time.

[@Romans5.1]

OT priesthood was and is fullfield by Jesus.

[@ASL-cz9pj]

Jesus instituted the Kingdom of God by establishing the New Covenant in the world so that it fulfilled God's will as a kingdom of priest and the holy nation. Then Jesus delegated His priestly authority to the apostles.

[@ASL-cz9pj]

Many eucharistic miracles were God's sign and proof that these miracles happened only to a valid consecration of bread and wine.

[@geoffjs]

See Jn 6 51-58 as sacrificial worship commanded by Jesus. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is an unbloody REPRESENTATION of Calvary, not a resacrifice. See Mal 1:11 sacrifice offered by the gentiles at all times & in all places

[@richyburnett]

@@geoffjs hmm if it’s a representation…..how can it be the real presence?

[@rbnmnt3341]

So appropriately called the "catholic priesthood". It's just that. It is not a biblical priesthood. At least not according to, none other than the supposed first pope. You see, Peter has a different "take" on the priesthood and who saints are. It surely isn't as the church teaches. I guess Peter was a heretic, teaching contrary to the church. Basically, there is NO such thing as a Catholic priesthood in the bible. And there is no such thing as saints as taught by the church. To that , Paul says all believers are saints. So much for st. Ignatius and the other saints the church has canonized. So says Peter.

[@boojasmine]

You are going to stand before our Lord someday. Think about the slander you sling at His Church.

[@Travis1365]

Nonsense

[@Anon.5216]

Hmm.. You must be Protestant!

[@geoffjs]

Jesus instituted the Catholic priesthood at the Last Supprr

[@rbnmnt3341]

@@geoffjs does John 6 say that? Just like he taught transubstantiation before he was actually crucified? Truth is, he didn't teach your hocus pocus hoax at all. That's why 70% of Catholics and 25% of priests do believe in the real presence. That from a Catholic survey. Your church always teaches doctrines that aren't in the bible. I know, not everything has to be in the bible, right? It's no coincidence that your church gives itself sole authority to interpret scripture. That too, is not scriptural. Self appointed pope, vicar and ruler of the world.

[@seanogcon]

St. Peter. Was married check gospel of st Mathew.

[@beehive9851]

The Catholic priesthood is without New Testament support.

[@geoffjs]

The priesthood was instituted by Jesus at the Last Supper Jn 6 51-58 when He also instituted the Eucharist

[@Apriluser]

I’m not a Roman Christian but I know better than that. Ever read Acts and Paul’s epistles?

[@jaqian]

The Apostles were the first bishops. It is from them that Catholics and the Orthodox priesthood originated.