The centre CANNOT hold in SA | David Ansara speech to the Rand Club

Speech by David Ansara - CEO of the Free Market Foundation - to the Rand Club of Johannesburg, 21 September 2023.
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[@ChannelFMF]

Read David's speech on PoliticsWeb: 'The centre cannot hold: does South Africa fail if the state fails?': www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/the-centre-cannot-hold--david-ansara

[@Hatredkopter666]

Fantastic speech, Keep it up FMF

[@ChannelFMF]

Thanks for the support, we will do!

[@witsend008]

Nice , measured words describing a political mess of enormous proportions. Gangsters rule .

[@christinefinniss6263]

Such an uplifting message. Thank you David.

[@houseking1000]

Great Speech! Im voting tomorrow! I cant wait to vote the buggers out!

[@firstcomment749]

SA with natural resources in abundance ranking 57 out of 62 countries by a Canadian mining research company vs Botswana ranking 10th, is a matter of great concern. What will happen if slum cities deteriorate further with illiterate, unskilled illegals walking undocumented across the borders in droves - to add to the already sky rocketing unemployment rate? Trade unions leeching on members to keep political parties in power is insane - how is it possible that salted former union leaders cannot see - they are killing free job markets - to replace it with? Manipulative black markets with mafiosi + cartels dictating + ruling the roost. EWC + similar laws in the pipeline will probably be on the law books before 2024 elections, as it will be the sum total of the ruling party's contribution to the future - to be a hoarse, dysfunctional decentralised voice in the present unfriendly + centralised desert. It will result in the mother of all disasters. Political parties breaking their backs compiling coalitions will be a waste of time, resources + money if big business is on the reserve bench to oppose them, by filling any gaps.

[@percyvdwesthuysen8363]

Thank you David, saying what is thought. Citizens AND big business must catch a wake up and implement what is necessary

[@kristozondagh]

This is bloody excellent

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

Wow. Brilliant!!! ❤❤❤ God bless S.A. and Africa.

[@moonchild7033]

@David Ansara @FMF - eloquent, interesting & enlightening as always, albeit it very depressing to have to keep listening to the never-ending failures of the ANC and their comrades catapulting us into oblivion.

[@colinhartley]

Thanks, there is HOPE!

[@Paulstracywootten]

the 1/3rd violations of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights through BEEE inposes an efective tax rate of 72% - that will chase away any investor actually wanting a return.

[@michelledossantos]

This Govt have failed us and must go!!!

[@eddiefield3363]

Every word a statement of truth, which should be taken to heart by all nationalities in South Africa, before it is to late.

[@alberthapienaar1968]

South Africa is not the rainbow nation that was born in 1994. The ANC created instead the failed state that ruiend the country.

[@billyork9588]

What an encouraging and uplifting speech! Thank you. Noe all we as citizens need to do is not stand for poor governance and regulate them to function as a government should!

[@ZAR797]

Good presentation, and sobering facts. William Nicol Drive is just another casualty of ANC 'rule'.

[@factandtruth1022]

Wasnt winnie charged with murder... just asking

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

"The black nationalists took over from the white nationalists "great perspective.Excelent speech .I feel like it a time like in the judges "everyone did what was right in Thier own eyes".I had my battery from my phone stolen when I borrowed it to someone.I was thinking about what course of action to take . "Give to him who asks " "turn the other cheek "dont ask for it back ." And trust ultimate judgement to God . I'll have to see when I see them what happens.Maybe I will give them the phone aswell .Call it charity.I dont know . interesting times .Maybe its a blessing in disguise.Maybe our undoing will be our beginning.

[@totalsellout2930]

Sadly Africa can't compete intellectually with the rest of the world.

[@Kevin-sp7wp]

The rest of the world has gone woke and liberal, another form of debased mindset's and governance.

[@michaelnurse9089]

But we can compete in some other things - like mining, tourism, and manufacturing for local consumption. Yet we sabotage ourselves in these areas again and again.

[@indylwth2327]

Thank you! Excellent speech. You echo my sentiments exactly.

[@buzzzlightyear11y2]

Excellent presentation, thank you for sharing.

[@7CHURCHSTREET]

Zimbabwe is the trailer.....South Africa is the film.

[@maseratifittipaldi]

If we let it.

[@markmuller2320]

This is the best comment here and also the worst comment here. Extremely negative, majestically succint and probably true.

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Excellent speech. No-one needs a magnifying glass to see in this mirror. Amplifies my contention that governmental and electoral reform is essential. I still think we need some sort of democratic institutions - but based on quality and merit rather than populism. To this end I think the political party system should be scrapped and our national domestic management de-politicized.

[@Clint-thoughts-travels]

Very good talk David. I enjoy factual honesty, laid out well... It always intrigues me about where this new super wealthy class of 'businessmen' got their incredible wealth from... there seems to be a large gap between where they were and how they go their wealth... rather like the Broederbond did before this current ruling class... Hard to condemn the one without condemning the other... both equally crooked.

[@proplib]

There is always hope for the future... A Positive message - thank you.

[@myshepspud1]

I wish this was seen and digested by the right people. Unfortunately those people are labouring outside not watching KZbin.. And their political representatives couldn't stand to listen to such "oppressive" language. The greatest irony is they use that same language to speak in circles opress their people and avoid accountability.

[@Macedonia270]

Those who still support the Springboks, indirectly also support the racist policy of the race quotas, and therefore also BBBEE, EE, EWC, the mirage of the "rainbow nation" and the ANC... The positive publicity the ANC gets from the Springbok success and the multi-racial support for the Springboks, is seen as a general condonation of the racist policies of the ANC, by the majority of South Africans.... A boycott of Springboks was one of the tools used to bring down the apartheid state... we should use this again to achieve the same objective.

[@godfreyberry1599]

Absolutely

[@LambertOtto]

Bollocks. The springboks have nothing to do with the ANC. They wanted to ban the word “springboks”.

[@Macedonia270]

@@LambertOtto The image of the Springboks and the mirage of the "rainbow nation" has EVERYTHING to do with how the ANC and the success of them governing the country is viewed in the international arena.... The facade created by the "one team - one nation" on the supporter's jerseys, is the image portrayed by the thousands of fans supporting the Boks... It creates an image of a country united behind the government...but some of the supporters embracing one another after each win, will be losing their homes, businesses, pension funds, medical aids, private schools, private hospitals etc...and the other supporters will be receiving those for free, which is a major motivation for keeping the ANC in power... And when it happens, the world will see this as tacit acceptance/permission from those who lost their property....All for the price of a braai, a brandy and a stupid game...

[@gysgijsbers4202]

The last thing I will ever do, is not support the Springboks, the Springboks represent everything good about this harsh country. One of our few international success stories over the generations. Go Bokke, AmaBokoboko!!! ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@ARenewedmind]

​@@gysgijsbers4202You don't get the message here do you? Sometimes you have to be "cruel to be kind". That is the message. Don't give the impression to the world "we are united" when in fact we are more divided than ever before! The "success" of the Springboks is very shallow compared to what is needed in this country and it is not "rugby, braaivleis and brandy"!!

[@davidmcfarlane5873]

Thanks David,well said,you hit the nail on the head.

[@trudiealmond287]

Spot on!

[@Hati321]

Great speech. Well done.

[@billyb7469]

Before 94 should not be mentioned ANC has been in charge for 30years

[@johnlivanos5411]

The first person that I can relate too , that tells it like it is . Where have you been young man .

[@ChannelFMF]

Thanks very much!

[@shabeersayed5903]

The Anglo war was fought against Britain. An won over persistent. Then we had Gandhi whom fought for freedom against been oppressed. Now we been ripped apart ....we're is all the Gandhi's off our times....our youth is been oppressed an we doing nothing abt it.......sad

[@bastrous9121]

What an eloquent and articulate man. SA is economically a basket case. The electorate is honor bound to adopt as much and solve locally rather than expect the “Elected!?! Government” to implement policies for the benefit of the nation.

[@SA-Napalm]

The strength of the state has declined, but the legislation has moved in an equal and opposite direction

[@godpenuel]

From 19:27 until the end... David Ansara is dropping bombs!!! I love it so much... People need to reclaim their power and begin solving their own problems. STATE-PROOFING!!! Amandla Awethu... The Power is Ours!!! ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽🔥🔥🔥

[@David.F.Ansara]

Thank you 🙏🏼 🇿🇦 🔥

[@CedricAckermann-k2c]

My word, brilliant.Cyril please watch this.

[@PatrickVianello-o]

Please don't sound like you have hope in that man. You'll wait for another 6000 years. I told people in 2017 to stop this Ramaphoria and New Dawn nonsense but was laughed at. I wish they were still laughing at me and we were to be doing well now. Sadly....... I was CORRECT

[@homoblogicus7899]

The Opposition Bloc is our saviour...

[@bobjuniel8683]

Privatisation does not always lead to the job being done better. Private road makers cutting costs on big equipment, using inexperienced labour, and negotiating lower specifications led to some really bad road making. Electricity prices increased significantly, but the government still had to fund with grants major service expansions, and changes in environmental standards. David Ansara seems to me to be advocating a policy of non co-operation, while demanding financial control of South Africa. What is new? I have never been to South Africa, and I know there are deep rooted problems tearing the nation apart. The price of extreme change is very high, and many will be losers. The people are angry, greedy, selfish and afraid. Logic cannot reason with emotion.

[@michaelnurse9089]

In the 90's, Russia privatised everything on America's advice to do so, effectively handing all the nation's assets into the hands of a couple of ex-KGB gangster types who enriched only themselves and close family. Some things are better in the hands of government, but one must stipulate that that government must have a desire to serve the people, as most Western governments do - in South Africa's case, the government has only one purpose - to extract value at any cost from society. ANC members often say "It is our time to eat" which means that blacks were abused economically in the past, now it is their turn to be the abusers, and they see this as the end of the conversation.

[@ZarraPoeta]

David let me first start by saying..... VERY GOOD SPEACH.... However what I say further down is not giving you scrap... In actual fact I wish...No acctually I PRAY that your "Analytically Viewpoints" could come true.... I fully understand your thinking as a political scientist... I respect your viewpoint as it make perfect sence and would work in a perfect world.... But unfortunately here our "metaphorically" roads split... As a engineer we work with real world problems of a non perfect world... Every engineer fight against "yield stress" (metaphorically speaking) in some or other form, depending on your field... Once you exceed that force... The short answer is, it's GAME OVER. So if we look at the reality and what South Africa infrastructure state a'r in ...right now. The yield stress has exceeded the "safe" zone in 2015, we a'r operating in the danger zone since then So here is my prediction, the infrastructure WILL collapse all at once... The support structure of 75M people will be wiped out in a few months. ZA simply have no money to repair the UN MAINTAINED infrastructure. In actual fact MOST parts of the infrastructure is so damaged that it's not repairable any more. The ripple effect of this will be riots, looting and ultimately civil destruction. Gangsters already control large sectors.... and then the fight between good and evil will start So if we look at the ONLY ONE thing the anc got right....DESTRUCTION... we can't find ANYTHING ELSE they managed to pull off successfully... NADA.. ZERO, why would it change now.. So as much as I AGREE with you and hope it could work out like that, sadly I can't see that happen. The only thing now is we can do is waiting for the "TIME BOMB" to go off and then take it day by day... Without making this a very long story. In WW2 around 44-55M people died.... In ZA we a'r (they say) around 60M, but we all know the anc can't do maths... My estate is closer to 75M with Illigall's.....The disaster in the making right now in ZA, will exceed that and will probably be the biggest in the modern world's history books... Thank you anc for destroying MILLIONS of people's lives.... Luckily life don't end here on earth, the ultimate judgment YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE!

[@michaelnuttall5896]

Our municipality would drag us through the banana republic court system if we filled potholes or graded our dirt roads. While the nearby informal settlement gets more of their rates written off, they already have plumbed sewage and new roads(no potholes) where we have sewage tanks that are typically not emptied within 2 weeks and regularly over 3 weeks! We pay anywhere from R3000 in rates up to R6000 and those amounts and at the whim of the municipality and if you dare not pay. Well prepare for a rates bill to be compunded ten fold and deducted when you sell or just have your home stollen. All this talk, requires an army behind it my friend.

[@alrinaleroux9229]

It might still be possible to fill a pothole, if one could do it unobtrusively (so as not to offend and suffer the consequences)? I saw an article in the Guardian (online) not so long ago (in May 2023), with the heading, "Italian man fined nearly €900 for filling in pothole hits out at ‘injustice’ - Claudio Trenta, 72, has triggered a national debate after deciding to fix 30cm hole himself in Lombardy". That was surely an exceptional case, and it's a good thing that it caused a public outcry. Good sense should prevail!

[@michaelnuttall5896]

@@alrinaleroux9229 There will be no news story, or outcry. Just you, in court run by criminals and likely a massive fine. Get a bakkie, much easier.

[@alrinaleroux9229]

@@michaelnuttall5896 The bakkie is an idea, but any vehicle can suffer damage. With regard to "just you", it shouldn't be "just you".

[@michaelnuttall5896]

@@alrinaleroux9229 Well they will pick one of us out the crowd and drag him/her through the courts. God made the bakkie for South Africans, lets use it. haha

[@alrinaleroux9229]

@@michaelnuttall5896 When people stand together and support each other in a positive way, something like that could through the grace and power of God bring about a change for the better.

[@beakhammer2638]

As a South African person for half my life, and whose ancestors started the municipality of Durban in the early 19th century, I listened carefully to your speech. From your perspective you see the solution to poor governance as being "do-it-yourself" privatisation. You quote amongst truly successful post soviet states Hungary and Poland. This shows enormous ignorance of Viktor Orban's pro-Russia mafia type right wing populism. Poland has these tendencies also within the Ruling PIS party. Georgia's present government, despite having lost a chunk of its territory to Russian aggression in 2008 is vaguely pro-Russia still and yet it is currently tightly filled with Russian refugees. China is a failed state ruled by 200 million communist party members and their families in a web of oligarchic kleptocracy. A billion Chinese have no freedom of speech and draconian punishments await those who say anything against dictator Xi . A million Uighurs languish in concentration camps in the north west where cultural suicide is in progress. The Chinese pay no attention to property owned by other nations in the South China see and seriously means to end the successful democracy of Taiwan. It is amazing that you think of these examples are examples for South Africa to follow!. Oligarchism is spreading within Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are good examples. These places are run by gangsters who seriously do not allow freedom of speech. Russian money is sloshing around my own country (Ireland) at the moment. Irish Land for forestry is being bought up by opaque Russian millionaires with war criminal connections. My ancestors fought against Germans for democracy, my generation fought against Russian proxies in Africa. Now Russians will take over the ruin that is left of South Africa. If Putin is not defeated in Ukraine, China and Russia will divvy Africa up between them. If you try and control SA with Oligarchism and private enterprise, please note that there are bigger sharks out there other than little Gupta guppies. The Russians and Chinese will simply buy out the SA companies that are running the country. Get real man, how can a man of your intelligence think that cruel Oligarchic eyes will miss the opportunities in weakened poor South Africa! They will make mincemeat of you! Time means nothing to them. It took them 16 years to take over Angola but they did it. These players will certainly make you sit up and pay attention before long, believe me! They are looking for ways out of their internal problems already: Look at Russian Wagner PMC activity across the Sahel which is popping with military coups for the past few months. Ask about Chinese gold-mining in Ghana, or Chinese fishing off Senegal (where they have devastated the local fishing industry). Russians are already heavily involved in Mining in South Africa. The reforms in Eskom have failed partially because Russian Oligarchs want to provide nuclear power in SA. Can you imagine that as a disaster! Believe me you need to inform yourself before making public speeches like this. I do not pretend to know what the solutions to SA's problems are. Have I not spend over half a century worrying about them? I do know that selling Rheinmetal-Denel (a private enterprise?) made Artillery ammunition to Russia and then lying about it, is NOT the solution. The solution must involve the education of a new generation of young women in South Africa to think and behave democratically. Give the girls ALL free iPhones! They are the mothers of SA's future. We need blue sky thinking not stale-thinking from money-fixated regurgitating stiffs. From Ireland.

[@kpav5994]

That job seeker exemption should be a private contract: a one-sided undertaking to make good all valid claims from the prospective employee to the employer.

[@12334ttqtqt]

Shame majority of South African who are ANC voters don't even understand what you are talking about .

[@bsleds4585]

Dam well said

[@waltervetri2476]

It is not a failed state ,bit people who failed to maintain the beautiful state .They have noooooo idea of governance !!!!!!

[@lolongubeni1748]

Well thought out points. Thought-provoking!👌👌👌

[@bronx7886]

Emergency Services lights flashing in the background even as he speaks?

[@waltervetri2476]

2024 the drama will continue .That's South Africa .!!!!!!

[@JeanCraven]

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[@elsabadenhorst9746]

Wow!!

[@southapedia3471]

Big Business don't give an f about the state of country..keep dreaming

[@kentondragon9263]

I guess things have to get really worse before south africa can change leadership. But how much worse can it get.🤔🤷‍♀️🤦

[@alrinaleroux9229]

Mass expropriation without compensation? (You will own nothing...?)

[@BlackMamba-u1q]

Sorry uncle but only the people with money can make a change, NO VOTING will make a change in SA, the ANC will make sure to win again. The majority of us live on or below the bread line, there is absolutely no hope, this is only for the privileged.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

Well ofcourse it is!

[@michaelnurse9089]

If nothing can be done how is it that other countries do something?

[@anchendreyer9245]

Excellent speech!

[@riaanvantonder5169]

Spot on spot on

[@paulreed3716]

Through taxes and duties etc we pay the state to do what it does

[@masolamidah3755]

Where is he from.Definitley not S.A.by birth.

[@janewhite572]

Why do we even need a government 😮

[@michaelnurse9089]

Other places have tried that and power abhors a vacuum. Warlords and organized crime step in and become the new government.

[@Truthseeker371]

SA needs to deal seriously with Anti-corruption policy. Not exercised. All the SA citizens have to unite to fight against the corrupted politicians and businesspeople. The presentation content is superficial. SA need concrete solutions and deliberations.

[@sarahdlp524]

Why does business buy into BEE regulations? Why don’t they en masse just ignore them instead of being so compliant? Can anyone explain.

[@privatesmith1560]

I lived in South Africa for a while 35 uears ago, but I am not South African. It wascthe time of De Klerk and Mandela. Already nack then everyone who was educated and new local cultures and history knew that this was betting everything on the Titanic making a successful first voyage. There was never a way that then 6 million whites, 2 million asians and 1 million middle class blacks could financially sustain and develop the back then 25 million blacks that were essentially still living and thinking like their Bantu forebearers in thec19th century. The strong migration from Zimbabwe and other places did make it just worse. China and Cietnam have high wirk ethics and society tolerates abject poverty for the ones not industrious or clever enough. South Africa is Zimbabwe on a larger scale and who has the means and brains to leave should have left 20 years ago already. Staying to fill potholes is like trying to keep the Titanic afloat with a teasppon for evacuating water. All it does is keep you busy while fat cats of thecruling class commandeer the last life boats.

[@businesspins5825]

🏆🏆

[@FJ-ln9iu]

First guy doing the intro is not adhering to the dress code! Short sleeved and casual, but I wouldn't expect anything better from him! Also, why did the club not make him adhere to it?!?! The Rand Club is now in a " no go zone " as per most of JHB central, so perhaps their traditions and standards have been adjusted accordinglyl! 🤮

[@stlouisix3]

Capitalism leads to virtually infinitely more wealth than centrism.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

Hahaha😂

[@billyb7469]

Excellent Speech

[@kateseverein7650]

Sorry no I meant to address the person complaining abt the sound as I felt yr speech was absolutely tops + have forwarded it a number of times

[@ChannelFMF]

Thanks so much for sharing it, Kate. Sound is NB so we will do our best to ensure our content is audible and clear.

[@ashwinmark1849]

Nothing will change even another party takes over policies and accountability needs to be establish first

[@michaellawson6533]

SA sure is a vuiled state run by a vuil uil.

[@anticorrup-g5o]

Things will get better. 👍👍

[@maseratifittipaldi]

Not with the current system. We must work hard to change this.

[@HenriVanAnraad-yd1gk]

Very good speaker if we had some them in government.

[@PatrickVianello-o]

Good speech but ONE small correction - we hav had 2 provinces under the opposition. From 1994 - 1999 the NP ran the Western Cape and IFP KZN. 1994 - 2004 coalition with IFP ran KZN. Western Cape only in ANC hands for 3 years thanks to the NP betrayal when they closed shop and gave their votes to the ANC on a silver platter. The ONLY reason they had the WC for 3 years

[@ChannelFMF]

You are quite right. I subsequently corrected the text version on PoliticsWeb but only realised the error after delivering the speech. Well spotted. Thanks, David

[@andrerousselsapet5219]

🙈🙈🙈🤮

[@waynemoseley691]

,👏👏🤔??

[@errolG68]

Excellent presentation supporting the free market principles……..

[@ChannelFMF]

Glad you liked it!

[@shabeersayed5903]

We need regime change....

[@beeboonunn137]

Pitty young people are not staying…no fight in them….?..

[@alrinaleroux9229]

There's nowhere to run to ... it's getting worse everywhere.

[@christopherj.l.watson3560]

Awesome

[@GCLTCL68]

GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS !!!!!!!

[@ChannelFMF]

🥃

[@braamies5339]

❤

[@peetbrink4788]

Wow, Lucky with the waaay too tight shirt

[@aimhigh3701]

Sound is terrible. Please improve your audio for future talks.

[@ChannelFMF]

Working on it. Sound is not always ideal on location.

[@kateseverein7650]

Focus on how excellent the speech is rather

[@aimhigh3701]

​@@kateseverein7650 I care about the FMF's message and mission and want their speeches to be heard far and wide. Bad sound quality can result in truth being ignored or overlooked. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

[@XolaniNdlovu-d9f]

Steenhuisen with a beard nothing new here... suttle tone that all was hunky dory until 1994

[@losonsrenoster]

Nothing was ever hunky dory in this country, not one single generation of any race did not face serious challenges. Federalism such as was started pre 1994 with the Transkei / Venda / Boputhatswana / Ciskei / Zulu trust areas should have been allowed to be completed, but greed and power madness put a stop to it. Call it what you like: Mfecane, Apartheid, cleptocracy, ineptocracy, forced integration, socialism Africa style, alleged diversity, it all failed. Why: Nationalism 9 different styles... there is no stopping it. As it is now 9 different nations are made opponents of each other, instead of equal partners.

[@grahamleigh8398]

The beasts of elitism want it all. The destruction happened many years ago. As they do in the rest of Africa.

[@factandtruth1022]

You right. Most certainly not. But one can rate it as perfection in comparison to, todays shamble we find ourselves in. Fact

[@vantheman7068]

You spelled 1881 wrong.

[@gysgijsbers4202]

​@@losonsrenoster Which Nation is represented in Gauteng? ...& in Cape Town?

[@basedsigma5634]

Sadly...still 2 generations to go before a " model C " accent will be accepted as normal. Until then....hey ...tula wena...you coconut😂

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

You are on a white channel, they don't care sweety.

[@basedsigma5634]

@@user-ib1py5bt7t being " educated " and wanting to do the " right thing" will get you nowhere in a country run by criminals.

[@kwalelalipimile3894]

Europeans have overstayed their welcome. Leave 🎉

[@DorothyOfTheWest]

hamba uyolala ngane yami engazi lutho, thula baba...thula

[@billyb7469]

And so have you ...we landed in the Cape long before your tribe if you have one arrived in South Africa

[@simlamaharaj1695]

N who will pay taxes once all Europeans leave ??? Our tax revenue is declining but looting is still going on. Add 15 million foreigners who dont pay taxes. Everything is collapsing. So enjoy yr 100 % soon to be black country. NO tax = no grants.

[@scott701230]

How appropriate fitting venue of the colonial masters, who lied, stole, killed and subjugated the natives, and we still fighting the war.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

We are still at war!!

[@alrinaleroux9229]

"... lied, stole, killed ..." Perhaps the more things change, the more they stay the same? That is, when we disrespect God and His will for mankind.

[@alberthapienaar1968]

The old story that colonial were thieves and killers. Shame on you.!!!

[@shamushaji-loucas931]

These are brilliant ideas but what are the chances big business and the likes would ever try and implement any of them?

[@alrinaleroux9229]

Baby steps -- starting with the personal and local is a good idea. Perhaps big business is best kept at arm's length. We've become lazy relying on "someone else" (such as the big corporations) to do things. A lot of things can be achieved through willpower, even on a limited budget. Working together as a community is crucial!